As an American settled in the UK, following US attitudes will be destructive on so many levels. Adopting US campaign strategies ruined UK politics. Adopting US diet caused a massive increase in obesity. Adopting US attitudes about healthcare will ruin the NHS.
@Otherdave008
5 жыл бұрын
@John Buffalo I am 97 Well, if you read properly what she said, she's saying US strategies are bad, and because we are adopting their strategies, it's bad for us too.
@gailbrevittlenton6667
2 жыл бұрын
Agree with you wholeheartedly. Three years on from your comment, and your predictions are indeed continuing to come ever truer. Stephen Fry is such an amazing narrator for these informing videos. Best to you.
@oldishandwoke-ish1181
Жыл бұрын
Regrettably a good many working class Brits think there is no class system in the U.S.
@huizhechen3779
Жыл бұрын
@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 Well, yes there is a class system in the USA: The rich, the working & non-working poor, & the totally disenfranchised (people of color except athletes & entertainers; non-Christians; disabled; mentally ill; the incarcerated ; women of child-bearing age); middle class almost non-existent now.
@TR4R
10 ай бұрын
@@huizhechen3779 a bit too harsh your characterization but in broad terms accurate.
@raspberries6992
5 жыл бұрын
I moved to the UK from the US. I currently pay more than 3 times what citizens pay into the NHS every year on top of my visa fees. It's worth it to live in a country where people don't have to choose between life and death because they cannot afford the ambulance ride to the hospital, let alone the care they receive once they get there. Privatised health care means death and crippling debt for everyone. When I lived in America, I paid just shy of $700 a month for my prescriptions, on top of paying for health insurance. When I moved to the UK, they took me off nearly all of those medications, and I am better for it. I am able to eat foods I could not eat in the States because of my sensitivity to pesticides. I remember being gobsmacked because i was able to drink water from the tap for the first time in decades. It's heart breaking to watch this place become more like what I left behind every day. To watch people be swindled by politicians and purposely misinformed. There's a reason the average American is sick and drowning in debt. People here cannot understand what it's like to live like that. I truly hope they never find out.
@mrbump28
5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it.
@djdoolittle1315
5 жыл бұрын
Thx , was very interesting to hear 👍 save our NHS !
@MarkFrancis-xt7ni
5 жыл бұрын
Raspberries I disagree very much with you.
@trevorfolley5287
5 жыл бұрын
@@MarkFrancis-xt7ni I'm not sure I understand your fruit-based reasoning
@aljack1979
5 жыл бұрын
Whilst I respect your views, indeed the USA has to pay medical insurance however in the states earnings are generally higher, pay less taxes, , less tax on fuel.
@GameplayandTalk
5 жыл бұрын
The USA health care system is the last thing anyone should ever want.
@atrejunl
5 жыл бұрын
really? why do people come to America for surgeries then?
@georgegarratt5559
5 жыл бұрын
yeh high rates of survival compared to the UK with all cancers sounds horrendous, who wants to survive cancer anyway?
@GameplayandTalk
5 жыл бұрын
@@georgegarratt5559- Sure, I may have better chances of surviving cancer (but really, those chances are still pretty low). However, with the massive debt I'd be stuck with courtesy of the USA health care system, I'd probably rather just shoot myself.
@mortak6307
5 жыл бұрын
@@ifxthenwhy6202 Yes let's in courage political violence that's what this debate fucking needs.
@TheGrinningViking
5 жыл бұрын
If someone wants to change policy in a way that will kill people so that they or a small group can gain wealth: a fair system would strip that power and wealth entirely from them, an unfair system would need changed, and an unchangeable system would need to be forcibly torn down so that rebuilding could happen So throw way more milkshakes, shame people, protest their inhuman lust and greed outside their churches every Sunday. See if things change, I think they would, and I don't think any of those things are the same as violence.
@plushiie_
4 жыл бұрын
You can say what you want. Miss information and lack of knowledge are the greatest threats to society.
@DH-og5yr
4 жыл бұрын
olt knowledge of spelling especially.
@jeffhearn3658
4 жыл бұрын
Miss information is a threat, but to be fair, she has legs for days.
@notthepopularview6622
4 жыл бұрын
Mrs information is a greater threat!
@KD-cg9iq
4 жыл бұрын
Clearly the balance of power - not only in Britain but in the whole world - today is shifting from democratic elected authorities towards non elected supra national reigns. As a result in many countries civil liberties are dictatorial curtailed, energy prices going up, traveling empeded and an increase in restrictions and obligations is omnipresent. The sovereignty of independent countries is vaporising making them more and more dependent. That meets the very definition of a new world order I should say. Read the following and start shivering: www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism/
@jamesm9534
4 жыл бұрын
@@KD-cg9iq : I agree with you. The 'lockdown' of "Covid19' shows how it is possible for governments to control whole nations. Very worrying.
@bigfatamericandream
5 жыл бұрын
I, as an american, was billed $10,000 usd for a four hour stay in the emergency room where I was seen three times by a nurse and once by a doctor, My foot is actually still broken, I never got the advil that I asked for, and instead got $500 in shots...even though I told them I was actually afraid of shots.... Don't let Americans do anything unless you want to hemorrhage all of your money and not solve your problems. aaaaaaand it's gone.
@damarmar1001
5 жыл бұрын
I live in Holland and I had three bypasses some years ago. Costs 00000000 Just my monthly payment of now 111 euros.
@damarmar1001
5 жыл бұрын
@Dustin Stich What you say is that many have it but many don't have it. that's why the US is a 3rd world country. In Europe everyone has healthcare. Man even Cuba has healthcare for everyone.
@holgerstratmann8393
5 жыл бұрын
In Germany, I went to an emergency clinic last year with a torn ligament. They did an x-ray to see if anything was broken, applied a protective bandage, answered all my questions. Bill was for 72 euros - which is covered by insurance, of course... But it DOES matter how much the insurance has to pay 'cause at the end of the day, that determines how much the insurance costs...
@taura101
5 жыл бұрын
@@holgerstratmann8393 Hi
@taura101
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, that greeting made in error.
@enochroot9438
2 жыл бұрын
2 years later everything in this video proved true
@markevans506
4 жыл бұрын
I’m Irish and have lived in US for 25 years, married to American, we both have had a severe health issue and we are basically poor thanks to the health care system in the Us. If we were anywhere in Europe we would be fine, not here! Privatization of health system is disastrous for the individual and most US companies either can’t afford or simply do not offer a health care plan. Good luck Britain, fight for your NHS!
@mikesgamingcox1331
4 жыл бұрын
So how come trump has just made health care much cheaper for poor people and also just made farmers for family's which he brought food off the farmers packed it up and sent it to the poorest of people so they can eat and he not stopping it so he has made food banks and started to do his own NHS.
@charliestewart885
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, we won’t :) Because we’re run by self interested morons
@ElBandito
4 жыл бұрын
@@mikesgamingcox1331 You are not looking at the big picture of the American HC system. Also, show me some sources for your post please.
@mikesgamingcox1331
4 жыл бұрын
@@ElBandito it's just what the left wing media are saying here. That farmers for family's is definitely he was talking about it the other day as he's just pumped another 1.2 billon on it as it came from the horses mouth
@ElBandito
4 жыл бұрын
@@mikesgamingcox1331 So you mean to tell me that we should thank Trump for spending over a billion taxpayers money for the direct result of the colossal mishandling of the virus that was Trump's fault in the first place? He is basically using everyone's hard earned money to wipe his own butt!
@TenPester
3 жыл бұрын
The UK public doesn't learn from hindsight. That's clearly apparent in today's society. Very short memories indeed.
@oldishandwoke-ish1181
Жыл бұрын
Too many believing what they want to believe - that if they worship the posh psychos hard enough, some of that power and authority will rub off.
@Sam_on_YouTube
5 жыл бұрын
Here in America, we are trying to overthrow the stranglehold of our healthcare companies. Trust me, you don't want them.
@jackspiller23
5 жыл бұрын
British people are fully aware of the difficulties in the us hc system (the opioid crisis being only one facet). Were you aware that the EU was trying to force through TTIP, while keeping the contents secret from the public. One consequence would have been the greatest existential threat to the NHS.
@andywilson8415
5 жыл бұрын
Jack Spiller it wasn’t really any more secret than any other trade deal. In fact it was probably one of the most published, which then leads to claims of secrecy. Whether it’s effects were to be good or bad we’ll never know though. There certainly wasn’t anything more nefarious about it than any other trade deal, it was just much bigger.
@jackspiller23
5 жыл бұрын
Andy Wilson you really don’t have a clue what you are talking about do you? Did you know that people within the Eu structure had been trying to ring the alarm bell that normal procedures were being circumvented? That information was being withheld from people with a legal right to such information? That there was a total stitch up on voting procedures for tabled amendments that would limit what ttip could do? Next time before you shoot your mouth off you should do at least some provisional research if it’s something you know nothing about.
@sh0werp0wer
5 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows that, trust me. That's why it was stated as a horror image without even having to explicitly say it - everyone is painfully aware how terrible the US healthcare system is.
@jackspiller23
5 жыл бұрын
Andy Wilson this isn’t cracking jokes about a meme it’s about a serious issue. Try googling greens amendments ttip
@Kirsten_is_cursed10
5 жыл бұрын
Protect the NHS! I’m from California and my health insurance costs about 1/3 the amount of my monthly rent and I still pay a TON out of pocket and for prescription copay. Trust me, you don’t want to be like this!!
@BrunoAnton
5 жыл бұрын
There was a 10% wage drop for the Brits in the past decade. www.theguardian.com/business/2014/dec/04/british-workers-suffered-biggest-real-wage-fall-major-g20-countries How could the Pindex talk about Brexit and not the huge elephant in the room, Brits losing a tenth of their wages in a period of a few years. Does every remainer live in London and not give a shit about Brits elsewhere? That's definitely what it seems. No wonder the right-wing is doing so well in the UK when "progressives" are so incompetent that they can't even talk about people's material conditions. I guess talking about something silly like "wages dropping faster than every OECD country save Greece" is just too boring. I just went and searched Pindex's videos and he has never mentioned wages once. What a huge joke that these ignorant KZitemrs are pretending to be knowledgeable on the topic when they can't even touch the issue of wages. The centre-left quasi-progressives, such as Pindex, that are incapable of approaching such issues will lose. And rightfully so if they can't even talk about what is clearly the most important issue to the average citizen, wages and salary.
@caseybv74
5 жыл бұрын
I like in Tennessee insurance is basically something you pay every month unless something really bad happens then the company only pays a portion of the costs. Allen Grayson said it best when he said that the Republican healthcare plan was don't get sick and if you get sick die quickly.
@theq-1
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but do you pay 50% income tax to fund it for foreigners! there is more to every story that this BS.
@thefloridamanofytcomments5264
5 жыл бұрын
Qmentis they don’t pay 50% income tax.
@theq-1
5 жыл бұрын
@@thefloridamanofytcomments5264 UK does...I know! I do!!
@Kwippy
5 жыл бұрын
Health care is not commerce. Patients are not customers. Health care should no more be a commercial consumer service than other essential services such as fire, police.
@RobRandomVids
5 жыл бұрын
Isn't that a bit like saying "ooh, no one should become a firefighter! There's no profit motive!" Its idiotic. Anyway, people who work in the NHS do get paid y'know, they don't do it for free!
@infidelheretic923
5 жыл бұрын
It cuts deeper than that. You see for profit businesses encourage in fact depend upon growing the demand for their product or service. Demand for healthcare would in an ideal world be zero. So using public funds and trying to decrease the demand rather than grow it makes financial and moral sense.
@chicawhappa
5 жыл бұрын
@@infidelheretic923 in Germany we have State-run as well as private health insurance companies. As an employee earning under 42K per annum, you have to pick from the State-insurances. Any other status e.g. business owner or higher salary employee and you can choose freely.
@davidelliott5843
5 жыл бұрын
Access to healthcare should be a human right. But that does not mean it should be defined from the centre according to government politics or controlled by the profit motive of private business. In UK we have the healthcare delivery politically controlled from the centre. But the products used and prescribed by the NHS are all made by private industry who have to make a profit in order to exist. Are the left saying that Glaxo should be privatised or that hip joints would be made by the (about to be) nationalised British Steel?
@gloin10
5 жыл бұрын
@@gawaineparker9599 Bullshit, from beginning to end. Your claim that the EU believes that "...state funded organisations like the NHS are seen as unfair competition to private enterprise" is complete nonsense. The EU does NOT have any competence in member states' health systems or policies. The various member states operate differing systems, but ALL feature huge involvement by the state. "The EU is no different to the crooked fuckers here..."? More nonsense. As stated above, "The EU does NOT have any competence in member states' health systems or policies." The reality is that there simply ISN'T ANY EU policy about health systems. Certainly nothing which is legally binding. The main difference between the UK and the rest of the EU member states is that ONLY in the UK have we seen a series of governments hell bent on cutting the NHS to pieces for the future benefit of the Tories' American corporate friends...
@kenharris5390
4 жыл бұрын
Our media allowed these lies to go unchallenged.
@imthatnggruponthatnag7784
4 жыл бұрын
They were collaborators. The media is owned by billionaires.
@MrRailjunkie
4 жыл бұрын
The right wing media was peddling most of the lies.
@davecairns8434
4 жыл бұрын
What a load of fucking lefty bollocks !Steven stick to acting you knob! Uk first sod the rest of the world. I’m disappointed in you
@zarabailee7271
4 жыл бұрын
Dave Cairns what because allowing the mega rich to use the Uk as a tax haven would put Britain first?
@fredatlas4396
4 жыл бұрын
Our media encouraged these lies they've been spreading the lies
@CaptinJangles
5 жыл бұрын
AMERICAN HEALTHCARE COMPANIES RUN HOSPITALS!? Oh, no no no no no no no, I'm American and would not wish that upon my worst enemy.
@chrisbungo695
5 жыл бұрын
This should be banned but private healthcare is the best solution. Public healthcare would eventually lead to pharmaceutical companies running hospitals. They would bid lower than anyone with the caveat of jacking up their drug costs. I literally wrote my University Doctorate at Cambridge for this whilst studying abroad.
@karlkingofducks5764
5 жыл бұрын
They are already in there and able to take legal action if they are denied contracts, something which was partially enabled due to EU law and poor governence.
@greylatern
5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbungo695 interesting. Good you give a quick summary explaination of your statement?
@corneliusantonius3108
5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbungo695 bollocks
@cjmaritz
5 жыл бұрын
will not happen in United Kingdom, that will be the last thing that will happen. A nuclear bomb attack in London would be more likely...
@aspektx
5 жыл бұрын
As a US citizen I am telling you Britain, you do NOT want what the majority of us suffer under.
@aevoguitars2576
3 жыл бұрын
I live in franc..every year my mates in the uk send their sons over here to get some work on the yachts..not going to be allowed soon.. I think the uk has gone back thirty years. Its the old xenophobic people afraid they will somehow lose their wealth who have voted for this.
@jamess9232
3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the news? Holidays are illegal, and "yachts" don't count as necessary work under the law, it will be this way for many decades. Even if there is a respite.
@oldishandwoke-ish1181
3 жыл бұрын
Little do realise that the people who will steal their wealth are the ones they have voted for ...
@corcaighrebel
4 жыл бұрын
These guys would sell their grannies.
@henryjubeda7617
4 жыл бұрын
You are not entitled to the labour of others
@TheMinimumPC
4 жыл бұрын
@@henryjubeda7617 Exactly. No billionaire has the right to own the labour of their employees. The workers must be given part ownership in every company.
@henryjubeda7617
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMinimumPC They don't own the labour. They exchange for it.
@TheMinimumPC
4 жыл бұрын
@@henryjubeda7617 😂😂 Money is supposed to be proof of work. Who the hell gave the billionaires the right to own thousands of years worth of proof of work? It's LITERALLY the police. Take them away and the billionaires basically have no right to own the land and resources of a nation. As for your "exchange" argument. It only works when there's a free market which you won't find ANYWHERE on Earth. Barriers to entry, IP owned not by the people who ACTUALLY do the intellectual work, but some random dumbass who manages to force the employees to sign away all their rights. The concentration of power into the hands of fewer bigger companies means that there just isn't any competition to keep things fair anymore. And it becomes harder for smaller entrepreneurs to compete with these giants. Hell, a lot of these companies like to add this little clause in the contract that an employee cannot work in the same field once they leave which is just ridiculous. Meanwhile the stupid fuckin billionaires are free to own stocks in rival companies and that's totally fine. How convenient The idea of free market capitalism you've been brainwashed with just doesn't exist.
@henryjubeda7617
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, the money printers are corrupt, but that's a fairly small group of people. I think we all want the most productive people to have the best access to resources with which they can produce new products for us.
@aiden7178
5 жыл бұрын
In all honesty, the NHS is my hero. I know the wait times are appalling, but it had saved my life numerous times. I don't see how people can slate the NHS because you receive high quality treatment that other countries do not offer you. I've been studying in Spain for some time now, and have been treated in a Spanish hospital. The wait times were extraordinary, but I didn't receive as much attention as in a UK hospital. I wasnt given my treatment by a nurse, but it was placed on the table in front of me for my friends who were with me to read through the prescription and give me my own medicine. Long live the NHS.
@jokerdaace
Жыл бұрын
Bruh... this is creepy
@therealmccoy6817
5 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t Remain just have Stephen and his team do all their research and adverts??
@Flackon
5 жыл бұрын
They’ve been saying that from the start but there’s no interest in paying attention
@Pindexsf
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Parties are sending out oversimplified, patronising rubbish, which is rightly ignored. They need to start creating informative, detailed material. The first party to do this will elevate themselves and the wider debate.
@popuptoaster
5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't have made any difference, wasn't hard to find out the facts but people get one idea in their heads and then like to stick with it, the Brexit campaign used the scatter gun technique of blaming everything that pissed people off on the EU so that they'd hit enough voters to get the result they wanted. Lots of people are not interested enough in politics to make an informed decision, they just want things fixed and a simple solution seems like a good idea to them no matter how complicated it is in actuality.
@someguy3766
5 жыл бұрын
They expected an easy win so didn't put much effort into their campaigns. The consequences are this national disaster we're now suffering with. They let us down big time.
@GreatSageSunWukong
5 жыл бұрын
Reality clashes with MSM narrative to believe our problems are our own is to share some of that blame even if its realising your one of the so called underclass the undeserving poor the government blamed for everything.
@eduardleon5409
5 жыл бұрын
The US is ranked 37th in health care, Colombia is 22nd, the U.K. is 18th. May I suggest that the U.K’s health care system be managed by a third world, war torn nation? It makes more sense than letting the Americans manage it.
@nosuchthingasgod3265
5 жыл бұрын
Not is doesn't you moron ahahahahaha
@paulbarton957
5 жыл бұрын
@@nosuchthingasgod3265 Eduard is being hyperbolic to make a good point.
@lt2853
5 жыл бұрын
paul barton so he is lying because he can't make the point without making stuff up...
@eduardleon5409
5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t lie. Those are facts that can be easily found online. They come from the World Health Organization. I suggest you use the internet for something else besides looking for granny porn.
@eduardleon5409
5 жыл бұрын
*No it doesn’t. You can’t call someone moron when you’re so terrible at grammar. You look moronic.
@marnie9063
4 жыл бұрын
What Angers me most is that we can't have access to actual fair and balanced news. The lack of coverage re NHS clause 17 was sickening.
@homodeus8713
3 жыл бұрын
It would have been easy to refute any of the lies but your class system ensures that toffs aren't challenged when they lie, although I wouldn't classify Farage as a toff.
@stephenwebster1368
3 жыл бұрын
Yes mate all news sanitised that's what they want. It's evil. EVRY BODY Needs to rebel. Pure revolution disobay before it's too late. Remember "the prisoner" I am not a number I am a person Burn Westminster to the ground they are all rotten to the core. It's coming Regards Steve webster
@chasedoe2594
5 жыл бұрын
US insurance model..... yeah... no thanks from Thailand....
@ck-xh9sh
5 жыл бұрын
@Apathetic Apparition US? no thanks from all around the world
@trapadvisor2258
5 жыл бұрын
@Apathetic Apparition Not for the healthcare though.
@trapadvisor2258
5 жыл бұрын
@Apathetic Apparition I have a rough idea it's better pay and they're less overworked because it costs an arm and a leg it's not uncommon for Americans to travel this side for the same reasons specialists and we treat any cunt fortunate to wash up on the beach
@MrAnperm
5 жыл бұрын
@Apathetic Apparition It's quite common for Americans to travel overseas for affordable healthcare. America has a rich people only healthcare system that only works for the minority.
@trapadvisor2258
5 жыл бұрын
@Apathetic Apparition how much does it cost to give birth? Why is America one of the last 1st world countries with high infant mortality?
@uweinhamburg
5 жыл бұрын
Check the term ATAD (Anti Tax Avoidance Directive) and especially the parallel time development of ATAD and Brexit ;) It's that simple - follow the money!
@mariapalmer5671
5 жыл бұрын
uwe in Hamburg . The British will never get rid of their tax avoidance schemes . Even the Labour Party.
@uweinhamburg
5 жыл бұрын
@@@mariapalmer5671 If they ever want to they have to get rid of the monarchy as well :)
@mariapalmer5671
5 жыл бұрын
uwe in Hamburg . Good !
@daszieher
5 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@chubbynorris6979
5 жыл бұрын
Amen
@Harlock2day
5 жыл бұрын
I always knew it was all about the money but I thought it was about profiting from new deals in a no deal scenario. This is much worst.
@zombiematt2006
5 жыл бұрын
Harlock2day money and power is all they want.
@c000rr
5 жыл бұрын
Wake the fcuk up! The money is only the first level smokescreen, it's really more about the power, in fact ultimate power over you, and finally full mind control... "Some wealthy Brexit backers" but obviously not the majority who back the Rothschilds at al. NWO- 1 world govt., of which the EU is the first stepping stone on the "totalitarian tiptoe"...
@KamenKunchev
5 жыл бұрын
How can you profit when there is a no deal situation with the closest 27 countries that you were in a free trade union with? Trump is all about tariffs with China and both US and China are in WTO.
@KamenKunchev
5 жыл бұрын
@@c000rr so UK siding with US begging them on their knees for a deal is the great opposition NWO terror? I am pretty sure you have no clue where UK is headed.
@c000rr
5 жыл бұрын
@@KamenKunchev Everyone who has explored the NWO plan understands that nationalism and a sense of belonging is attacked because they want to remove the sovereign state and divide the world up into regions. Of course if they did it quickly, everyone would oppose, so the tiptoe totalitarian method is employed: first customs union, then legal union, then govt. union...If you live in Britain, you MUST have watched this progress in the EU. Those who voted OUT, got the trick. But if you did not get it, then read Orwell's 1984 because it describes the Illuminati plan of regionalism very comprehensively: divide, conquer, world govt., endless war, political correctness...Orwell was 35 years off target.
@mustafaalwaheed1628
4 жыл бұрын
We, the UK sheeple, got played. Big time.
@K_-_-_-_K
3 жыл бұрын
That's unfortunately true. look at the voting statistics, it's older xenophobic pricks who voted for this.
@TheManLab7
3 жыл бұрын
I fucking hate the UK government! As for all these years, all they've ever given a shit about, is themselves and anyone else who's got money and power (which both go hand in hand unfortunately). I voted to leave for a couple of very valid reasons but yes, your right. We all got played! 😞
@K_-_-_-_K
3 жыл бұрын
@@sceafa8370 please elaborate as I have merely presented facts.
@K_-_-_-_K
3 жыл бұрын
@@sceafa8370 Im in your corner, The derision lies with those who sold you the idea of brexit and not with the people who bought it. You and I have more in common with the immigrants in Calais than any privately educated member of British high society. The sole reason for brexit is tax havens, in 2015 the EU wanted to crack down on tax havens and the uk voted against it, Next year we held the vote to leave. Check out "The spiders web - Britains second empire" Its on youtube
@milkynips1
3 жыл бұрын
@@K_-_-_-_K what a tit you are.
@enioleyva529
5 жыл бұрын
American here. Trust me you do NOT want this healthcare man. My stepdad had a minor stroke, the ride to the hospital and one nights stay was a total of 6k. Insurance coverd most of it but he still had to pay almost 3k. It's a joke.
@mw01908
5 жыл бұрын
3k. That's about only 2.5 years of NHS contributions from your salary in the uk. You could have saved that money yourself rainy day/healthcare fund. It's called personal fiscal responsibility and not relying on the state
@backalleycqc4790
5 жыл бұрын
@@mw01908 Yes, let's blame his stepfather, that'll help you win the argument...
@denisescally7090
5 жыл бұрын
@@mw01908 He had a one night stay. What if it had been cancer or a 6 month stay? Just save up?
@michaelbboardman2424
5 жыл бұрын
@Frederic Lehouillier let me stop you there. By saying that he will pay the $3k through taxes is UTTER bullshit. IT DOES NOT COST $3K to bring out an ambulance. These numbers are inflated as the hospitals/insurance companies/politicians are all in bed with each other - This creates a system where private healthcare is NECESSARY. Insurance companies make Hundreds of BILLIONS a year - paid for by the public. IF the public pay their healthcare directly through tax it is CONSIDERABLY cheaper. This is ll very in-depthly documented and is just basic knowledge.
@russellnewton6660
5 жыл бұрын
Enio Leyva hope you’re step dad is recovering well, the last thing you want to be doing when you’re ill, is a bill. I had a stroke, was in hospital for 4 days with the NHS no bills to worry about just my wellbeing, alls good 👍
@grmpEqweer
5 жыл бұрын
According to a Harvard university study, 45,000 people die per year from preventable causes due to lack of insurance in the USA. But privatization is good, right? RIGHT?
@laurameakin8725
5 жыл бұрын
Nigel Farage thinks so, as do many Tories. Though that may be because they have friends who will benefit.
@grmpEqweer
5 жыл бұрын
@@laurameakin8725 They could profit off of it. My fear is that you'd wind up with a 2 tier system: private one for the rich, an increasingly-defunded NHS for everyone else.
@iggy1979
5 жыл бұрын
Dudlea Doleft if they want healthcare they shouldn’t be poor
@barriewright2857
5 жыл бұрын
OMG, that many people if the UK does take the private medical insurance root, most of the north past the whatford gap would be devastated. The poorest parts of villages, towns, and cities people would die like flys the middle class might do better but I would not grantee it.
@manda60
5 жыл бұрын
You heartless lib. Think of those poor shareholders! You expect them to buy a smaller yacht simply to save a few thousand lives?
@balf1111117373
5 жыл бұрын
The games rigged. There is a big club and you & I are not in the big club
@warlordnipple
5 жыл бұрын
But maybe one day I will be because I don't understand how economics works
@RCXDerp
5 жыл бұрын
Then ducking try and get in. Nobody wants to put in the effort.
@-grey
5 жыл бұрын
They have a big club, maybe it's time we had a big guillotine.
@leejamestheliar2085
5 жыл бұрын
George Carlin or Jordan Maxwell?
@Isochest
5 жыл бұрын
@@warlordnipple First of all you have to understand that economics is about human behaviour. Those who seek power have corrupted economics as they have politics. Politics is a (bad) business and the endgame is monopoly just like the game. Play monopoly and you will understand why economic and political systems become corrupt and inevitably implode
@cormackeenan8175
4 жыл бұрын
Norway build a “sovereign” wealth fund the largest in the world by judiciously managing it’s oil, where on the other hand the U.K. spent it on Wars and thinking it’s a big player.
@papaunderwater3316
4 жыл бұрын
you didn't watched the vid, did you?
@thekearoldgold
4 жыл бұрын
and?
@pfacka
4 жыл бұрын
sounds like analogy for blow, booze and hookers :-D
@gurglejug627
4 жыл бұрын
Virtually every country in the world has a sovereign wealth fund. The UK is almost the only exception. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sovereign_wealth_funds
@abdulsufan3750
3 жыл бұрын
Well.said my friend.
@chrisofnottingham
5 жыл бұрын
When the ignorant poor are voting on the same side as the aristocracy you could guess that something fishy is going on and one group is going to do rather better than the other.
@devonseamoor
5 жыл бұрын
To say that the poor are ignorant is misleading and a false sentiment, for, in this age of internet and libraries, it's impossible to remain ignorant unless it's by choice. I'm sorry to observe Britain's population showing willful ignorance and complacency in numbers that astounds me, a Dutch citizen living in the UK. The class system will be the ruin of this society, tradition becoming devastation.
@rollosinternet1853
5 жыл бұрын
@@devonseamoor Unforutnately it is by choice.
@nellyt2807
5 жыл бұрын
I think it's you that's the ignoramus
@stevetaylor4672
5 жыл бұрын
@@rollosinternet1853 People in UK deliberate over their vote on reality TV shows more than on electing their local & national governments.
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
5 жыл бұрын
Oh, where are the virtuous middle class liberal Guardian readers when we need them to save us from ourselves?
@setantii298
5 жыл бұрын
Privatising healthcare in the UK would result in riots. Very big ones.
@sameoldsameold1740
5 жыл бұрын
Sam Johnson yeap if your sick they r a god send....if your foreign there a fucking steal... everyone should pay into a system to support the nhs.....if you fill the country with people who don’t even speak the queens never mind go to work the system gets overwhelmed.... and yes there lots of old people....people who have paid and contribute into the system that fails them for a younger harder working more productive imported group of people ????? They’ve lost loads because of our lack of support and selfish lifestyles (but I digress) The Trotsky lefty’s have worked there magic , whilst we moan about paying more into a system we can no longer support... (influx of scrounges.)The things we built and hold dear ultimately decline...whilst we bitch and moan about right or wrong, left or right we forget how great we are and what we can be..... time to look after our own OR keep watching the MSM and love island
@System0Error0Message
5 жыл бұрын
unfortunately, it has to happen because people are stealing from the NHS. That is why the NHS has a budget deficit.
@setantii298
5 жыл бұрын
@@System0Error0Message I think the biggest problem is the deliberate mismanagement of it. A Conservative government isn't going to run it properly when their party's ultimate aim is to privatise it. They're going to deliberately under fund and mismanage it, hire shed loads of middle managers with huge salaries who suck up the budget and duplicate work, creating an overly bureaucratic, ineffective mess, so that they can then justify selling it off in parts to the point where eventually, it becomes so inefficient and financially burdensome that they say "Hey look, it's not working and we can't afford it anymore. Let's switch to an insurance based system". And the same cronies who bought up all the different parts of the NHS make a killing because they're the same ones who own the insurance companies too. Meanwhile the people of Britain are supposed to sit and watch a state asset, bought and paid for by the taxpayer, be sold off on the cheap to a bunch of billionaires who will then rent it back to us at ten times the cost... Riots.
@billedifier8584
5 жыл бұрын
I remember the riots when Thatcher was closing down the coal mines. The riots didn't make any difference.
@setantii298
5 жыл бұрын
@@billedifier8584 It was only the coal miners rioting that time.
@Nik110512
5 жыл бұрын
As an outsider the whole Brexit movement baffled me and in my country when wealthy politicians adopt the persona of 'being one of you're or fighting for the rights of the poor against the elite, we are conditioned to ask 'what's in it for them?'. The harder it is to answer that question, the more sinister the motive is. The UK and US public should do well to adopt some critical reasoning.
@silveriorebelo8495
5 жыл бұрын
oooh, you are so damning smart, ooh, you are a true light... and what it is in it for you for saying so silly things, can you tell me? pretending that there are no people that want freedom and independance for their own countries??
@Terwano
5 жыл бұрын
But david cameron, tony blair, and other elites and billionaires swear to god that we should stay in the EU. They say it's in the best interest of the poor and they're looking out for the vulnerable class... So, by your own statements, shouldn't I also be asking what's in it for them? Can you tell me?
@JackRabbitSlim
5 жыл бұрын
@@silveriorebelo8495 Independence from what? The UK makes its own laws and can veto any law from the EU it doesn't like, the UK could have had tighter immigration controls on EU citizens but it chose not to adopt them (and more immigrants are coming from outside the EU anyway at the moment), the UK controls its own money, businesses (those it hasn't sold off)...so what is it that you're getting 'freedom' from? What EU laws have been passed without the UK agreeing to them, what EU laws have negatively effected your life? The EU tax laws on the rich which Brexiters want to abolish? The Strict greenhouse emissions standards which Brexiters want to abolish...
@sanderfondse3329
5 жыл бұрын
@left hearter Could You stop doing exactly what You are claiming the EU does ? Shouting and causing fear in order to control others ? The big EUSSR , what BS !!! You want power to be in the hands of the people. What would better ? A parlement consisting of 28 nations OR a single nation that is being controlled by multinationals ? It is true that the EU has it's part in globalisation and the chasm between the rich and the poor. But deregulating and decreasing cost for rich people does NOT make the poor wealthier ! The EU started this mess, sure but it then has to solve it. Selling any nation to the US doesn't help.
@rorylyons1091
5 жыл бұрын
@@Terwano And therein lies my problem. I was undecided in 2016 and at the referendum did not vote, afterwards when Blair, Brown, Geldof and other tossers came out in favour of remain I wished that I had voted leave. Now that I have watched this video, I am once again unsure. If the whole brexit shambles has done one positive thing, it is to show how treacherous and self serving our politicians are.
@strangelyjamesly4078
3 жыл бұрын
The German model for health care is pretty excellent. I've made use of it several times in the past 8 years and it kinda blows the UK's NHS right out of the water.
@davidnour6963
3 жыл бұрын
Yes and the French system is also much better than the British. But...still far better than savage USA!
@NegativeAccelerate
3 жыл бұрын
David Nour french is only good cuz they put so much money into it. Germans spend less on healthcare than the french. It’s about a balance. But I think we all agree that the USA healthcare is crap in all regards. They pay wayyyyy more money for wayyyyy less healthcare cuz of corruption and everyone at the top only cares about money, not the American people
@AndrewDowell
3 жыл бұрын
You should check out Taiwan's health care system. It's amazing, completely affordable (subsidized through government funding) and also extends into dentistry and Asian Medicines .
@kamanashiskar9203
3 жыл бұрын
Germany's economy isn't doing well though.
@grassytramtracks
Жыл бұрын
@@kamanashiskar9203 Britain's is still doing worse
@tigre3droyce771
5 жыл бұрын
10:23 My dear neighbours, Brits, an Insurance base healthcare system meaning = you have money you get healthcare, you dont have money, you'll die. Keep your NHS Love from the mainland continent europe
@lynneceegee8726
5 жыл бұрын
Emanulito Royce I wish I could get this over to people who keep telling me the DU wants to stop our NHS! The leavers are so ignorant it is heart breaking!
@barriewright2857
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you from the UK and we are not leaving mother EU and the family.
@chokinonashes61
5 жыл бұрын
@@barriewright2857 I really hope you're correct.
@ralphraffles1394
5 жыл бұрын
France? Germany? Insurance based systems, no.?
@exia1814
5 жыл бұрын
Are you an absolute moron????? So you're telling me Spain, France, Germany, Portugal, Switzerland, Belgium, Holland etc etc etc don't have universal coverage?? Majority of them have public-private partnership which works. So stop bullshitting!
@anaias74
5 жыл бұрын
Why ever should a gouvernement want to have a healthcare system as in America?! It’s only since 2010 that it has universal healthcare, and that system failed big time. And as I am from Holland, we reformed our healthcare system and partly privitized it. It is a disaster! Never try that road. Healthcare should never be privitized.
@swanky_yuropean7514
5 жыл бұрын
@Apathetic Apparition Simple answer: Because you can geht rich on peoples missery.
@tagg8233
5 жыл бұрын
@Apathetic Apparition Because doctors can earn more money by deciding to only treat rich people.
@MrAnperm
5 жыл бұрын
@Apathetic Apparition Why do they ask you if you have insurance when you arrive at an American hospital? That doesn't happen in countries with good health care systems.
@corradoQC
5 жыл бұрын
How government regulations made health care expensive in the US mises.org/wire/how-government-regulations-made-healthcare-so-expensive
@danteshydratshirt2360
5 жыл бұрын
its hard but not impossible to make insurance based healthcare work but i think its largely dependant on controlling the pharmaceutical industry and doctors
@calebrush3833
5 жыл бұрын
Las year I had a health scare went to the hospital for a scan and blood tests with follow up tests 6 months later. total cost 0. Thank you NHS.
@MrSkePticaL123
5 жыл бұрын
God bless the NHS.
@deldia
5 жыл бұрын
Well, it wasn’t 0 cost. Someone had to pay. So the issue is how to fund a health service. I don’t favour a US system but let’s have an informed debate. Most of the rest of the EU don’t have a system like ours and of course harmonisation and market competition are major structures of the EU.
@flycrashrepairrepeat6225
5 жыл бұрын
0 cost? Dumbest thing I've ever read...
@lt2853
5 жыл бұрын
My grandad had just waited four weeks to find out the results of a scan which shows he has advanced cancer. If he'd went private he could've payed 300 pound and gave himself a much better chance. I'm unemployed currently, and my belief is everyone should heave to pay for healthcare. There are still free hospitals in the us, you just have to wait ages like in uk
@deldia
5 жыл бұрын
L T actually you don’t have to wait ages in the UK. My friend recently had a hip replacement on the NHS. He had to wait just a few weeks as it was done in a nice private hospital.
@antoniosarmaou6177
3 жыл бұрын
So much information packed into this video.
@mariwansewngi5134
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, but unfortunately it came out 3 years too late
@undesignated3491
5 жыл бұрын
Lol made me giggle ! I suspected fry wanted to remain
@kingrobert1st
5 жыл бұрын
Then watch Facts vs Fear another Stephen Fry doc on Brexit which came out a couple of years ago.
@joeavreg2254
5 жыл бұрын
Your big mistake is believing all this information wasn't already completely available at the time. England isn't too different from the US. A nation of racial supremacists who won't read or question anything so long as you tell them they're the best. Jesus Christ, the whole 350 Million thing was debunked within an hour and people still gave that as the reason they voted leave. Fucking idiots.
@undesignated3491
5 жыл бұрын
@@joeavreg2254 it's about leaving a trading block and a political union the racist thing is a little boring, seeing as the UK has some of strictest anti racist laws in the world made up primarily by white folk btw your argument is the most flawed in modern day times.
@joeavreg2254
5 жыл бұрын
@Voltspear And yet UKIP only gets stronger and finds greater numbers the worse it gets, English people worship blood privilege and shiny hats, people consider racist monstrosities like Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson strong leaders. Another fun factoid? The person they voted the Greatest Briton of all time? Churchill, a eugenicist, a racist, a racial supremacist, a hate monger, a liar, a drunk, someone who committed genocide. If anyone knows the full history of england and it's us here in Ireland.
@MCOD1999UK
5 жыл бұрын
The NHS isn't perfect but is arguably the best healthcare model in the world.
@amadexi
5 жыл бұрын
@Apathetic Apparition And yet with all that technology, their population is nowhere near world leaders in any health related metrics. It's cool to have the tech but it's useless when your population can't pay for it. So yes, it's maybe "better than others" but only for the top 1%.
@amadexi
5 жыл бұрын
@Apathetic Apparition If the population could pay for it, then we wouldn't have this discussion and no state would even pick one buyer systems or have heavy health care policies. The Americans pay MORE tax money on health care, yet get less: only a small % of the population is covered (like veterans, who unsuprisingly, get the best prices).
@jackjones7062
5 жыл бұрын
@Apathetic Apparition for those who can afford it you mean, everyone else is fucked
@EdwardOberon
5 жыл бұрын
Anyone who thinks American healthcare is a good idea, knows nothing about America..
@willbaker1472
5 жыл бұрын
USA leads the world in healthcare technology innovation. No one is even a decent second. They have much shorter wait times compared to NHS. They have much better doctors compared to the NHS. They have better medical equipment than the NHS. The only difference? an average of $330/month for an individual. Which by the way, is almost certainly covered by the lower tax rates and higher wages you will experience in the US...
@sloaneglover1026
5 жыл бұрын
@@willbaker1472 Sure, US healthcare is the best in the world - if you have the money for it. If not, well... you're free to die. Unless you'd like to open a line of credit?
@chrispeacock1257
5 жыл бұрын
The US spends over 17% of its GDP on healthcare, the second most in the world after the Marshall Islands. The UK spends 9.8% of its GDP on healthcare. The US ranks 37th worldwide on healthcare outcomes and over 45,000 people die each year due to lack of insurance. It really is an open and shut case.
@amadexi
5 жыл бұрын
@lastchip Yes, that's indeed awesome, thanks to the American people who pay the price for that in their everyday lives, rich foreigners can reap the benefits while the US general population can barely pay for their own treatments. I must say: Thanks the people of the USA for the sacrifice.
@Pilgrim_uk
5 жыл бұрын
Much better doctors comment is absolute nonsense that's personal opinion not fact. Shorter wait times? once again very hard to nail down sounds like personal opinion.
@chooselife3000
4 жыл бұрын
Four and a half years after the vote, still discussing Brexit.
@sweepingtime
4 жыл бұрын
Considering that UK is still part of the EU the last 4 years despite the great efforts of 2 Brexit governments.
@marnie9063
4 жыл бұрын
Er, considering NHS clause 17 was recently passed, yeah, we are.
@alabar9795
4 жыл бұрын
That's because they didn't get the result they wanted. They will make sure we remain regardless of what they tell us
@hughjohns9110
4 жыл бұрын
@@sweepingtime Great efforts? 2 Brexit governments? What planet are you living on?
@sweepingtime
4 жыл бұрын
@@hughjohns9110 The one where there's a brexit govt under Theresa May and another brexit govt run by Boris Johnson.
@AStitchTooFar
5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the insight, one small mistake: the Netherlands hasnt legalised canabis. We have a system where we condone certain soft drugs, but they are still illegal.
@sowhat515
5 жыл бұрын
A, that`s why there are so many coffee bars in amsterdam, with the name `` bulldog `` there you can choose your cannabis strain, and in the coffee bars they do not sell alcohol, that makes sence !!!
@Kalydosos
5 жыл бұрын
@intempify Well done Portugal!
@MarceldeJong
5 жыл бұрын
@@sowhat515 its usage is decriminalized and the police won't stop you for smoking a blunt (unless you're in a no smoking area, but then for smoking and not for the joint) but possessing and or selling large amount of weed and hash is still illegal, which makes stocking a coffee shop a legally tricky thing. Technically coffee shops (even the tourist trap Bulldog ones in Amsterdam (seriously there are better coffee shops in that city)) are operating illegally. But the police in many cities turn a blind eye, as long as they aren't near schools and as long as they don't cause trouble for the people living around it. Also some cities have banned coffee shops altogether and will shutter businesses if a certain amount of weed is found on the premises.
@rwbimbie5854
5 жыл бұрын
US has a federal law banning Pot in the US some people choose to pretend violating federal law is not a crime, that violating federal ban laws is "LEGAL" ..which is odd, seeing how those states fiercely believe others states cannot violate Fed Gun Bans, while they violate Fed Pot Bans
@iankelly5797
5 жыл бұрын
They haven't got anything right.
@lachd2261
5 жыл бұрын
Everyone heard “take back control”. Nobody asked the follow up question - “... and give control to who?”
@Dave-uw2ul
5 жыл бұрын
you're right ... rich toffs!
@samwood1799
5 жыл бұрын
nah people who voted Remain shouted "Nazi scum" among other slurs because they didn't get their way. I will be glad when Schools, colleges and universities in Wales stop getting EU funding have you ever been to one? All Pro EU bullshit no matter what you're doing I took a course in IT and they wanted me to write about the EU which has nothing to do with IT. Juncker can fuck off especially with his statement "These populists, nationalists, stupid nationalists, they are in love with their own countries!"
@EdwardOberon
5 жыл бұрын
Rich American Twats
@gordon1201
5 жыл бұрын
@@samwood1799 yeah, great attitude. You'd drive off the edge of a cliff, taking everyone down with you, just because someone called you names...
@danteshydratshirt2360
5 жыл бұрын
@@samwood1799" I took a course in IT and they wanted me to write about the EU which has nothing to do with IT." prove that claim or I call BS
@beno8983
5 жыл бұрын
And yet they have convinced millions that they are not the establishment. "The greatest thing the devil ever did..."
@herbert9241
5 жыл бұрын
You're referring to Fry here, of course.
@remotefaith
5 жыл бұрын
How do you know what millions have or haven’t been convinced of?
@Pindexsf
5 жыл бұрын
Great quote!
@beno8983
5 жыл бұрын
@@remotefaith millions of people voted for a president who inherited billions in wealth and is the very epitome of capitalism and thus the establishment (he was even referenced heavilly in american psycho, which is hillarious) on the pretence that he is not from the ruling elite. Millions again voted in a referendum under the illusion of greater freedom from the ruling eu elite, yet the real beneficiary is a free market economic on steroids (meaning the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer). People have been duped, socially conditioned and played to yet again boost the wealth of the richest. In 20 years time that realisation will be there for all to see but right now the duped don't yet understand whats happened.
@beno8983
5 жыл бұрын
@@herbert9241 follow the money. I don't think fry is raking in billions hedging on brexit, unlike some...
@Praetor_Fenix420
4 жыл бұрын
I hope the UK does not take this course. Just look at what privatizing has done for healthcare, prisons, and infrastructure in the US.
@Fenixswe
5 жыл бұрын
This whole situation is just sad
@whocares2087.1
5 жыл бұрын
Well, the UK voted for it.
@fabclark123
5 жыл бұрын
@@whocares2087.1 not me. misery and mental despair are behind this. a psycho-crisis
@looknfortruth
5 жыл бұрын
i agree,we used to be held up to the world as the worlds greatest democracy,our politicians have turned us into an undemocratic entity of the eu.mrs may and her remoaners have turned us into a laughing stock.maybe we need the yankees to bring us some off that democracy they brought to the middle east
@djdoolittle1315
5 жыл бұрын
looknfortruth maybe you need a check up from the neck up you 2bob fascist tosser. The yanks have caused nothing but trouble since the end of the 2nd world war. Colonialism is over you war monger. Period. 😷☝️🇮🇷
@looknfortruth
5 жыл бұрын
@The Train Geek oh dear youre one off those that hoover up the propaganda,the nhs CANNOT be sold due to it being written into legeslation,so without the consent of parliment it cant be sold.thats why labour intoduced pfis,because they couldnt sell the nhs they rented it out to their mates on long term contracts. chlorinated cleaned chicken seems to be fine for every single american athlete that uses it for their main protien intake.so its alright for nfl players but not poppy the green haired gender neutral london socialite?
@RubsNL
5 жыл бұрын
Neither the Netherlands nor Portugal legalised cannabis. They decriminalised use - very big difference.
@mathijsbeaujean8378
5 жыл бұрын
The Netherlands is teetering on the verge of neo-conservatism as well. Moved the drinking age to 18 while I wasn't looking (you move to Africa for just a few years... Neo-cons there as well, by the way). Luckily we don't have as big a financial sector as the UK does, or there'd be more funding for Nexit campaigns as well. These disenfranchised baby-boomers, and the generation after them, are a ticking time bomb.
@stuctr
5 жыл бұрын
@BartJ583 no it is not all the cannabis sold in coffee shops comes through the back door is grown illegally yes it is taxed but there is no control over this
@eedragonr1576
5 жыл бұрын
@@stuctr and they are buying a nice French chateau from drugs money
@stuctr
5 жыл бұрын
@BartJ583 I suggest you do some research pal I have been to Amsterdam over 40 times even lived there for 6 months all the strains come from people growing on the black market and yeah my patience for people who don't have a clue has ran out sick of it
@stuctr
5 жыл бұрын
@BartJ583 took me two minutes of mouse clicking go to Wikipedia and see about the back door policy makes me so mad idiots like you
@cadetmouse
5 жыл бұрын
I'd hate to get ill in America, I really would. They would probably send me home to die if I had no money. In the UK (my birth country) I would at least be given full care and it would not cost me a single penny. I have always paid my contributions as well. Hands off OUR NHS.
@fathermuhammadgoldsteino.b6116
5 жыл бұрын
USA's socialized systems -- MEdicare, and VA for soldiers -- are MUCH WORSE than USA's private-payer system. The USA's #1 problem is lawsuits by TLA -- a lobbyist group of lawyers Obama met with just before he revised Obamacare (whose costs-compared-to-surgical-outcomes and other evidence-based-outcomes was ALSO wayyyyy worse than USA's private-sector freemarket system). ...Politics and lawyers are the main cause of ballooning costs in USA. As for NHS,I'm a bio-medical engineer who works with doctors worldwide: NHS is one of THE WORST compared to other nations with c\socialized systems. Many families go to USA when NHS does not cover STANDARD technologies that are available even in Developing ("Second Worl") economies or when NHS delays treatment of cancers allowing people to die, etc. NHS is veritably THIR WORLD and will get even more so as UK residents are increasingly 3rd worl, e.g. NHS spends >50% of its costs for inbreeding on Pakistani immigrants: google.com/search?q=GENETICISTS+WARN+Muslim+cousin+marriage You seem to be young & healthy with nobody old in your family (single mother?) who needed any major end-of-life care, because the NHS's numbers OBJECTIVELY speak for themselves, regardless of your anecdotal (personal, subjective) life.
@fathermuhammadgoldsteino.b6116
5 жыл бұрын
@N Avery So the poorest Brits should be able to use the govt to STEAL from the wealthiest Brits... but EVEN-POORER immigrants shouldn't be able to steal. Got it, you're 100% selfish, justifying your own "redistributionist" theft, but against "redistributionism" when if favors people even-poorer than yourself. Amoral, "vote others' money into my onwn pockets," people like you (as Plato observed as "theECONOMIC tyranny of the majority") are the DEATH of all democracies. When you go into EVEN MORE debt like Southern EU's failed welfare-states, enjoy the New Dark Age -- your ilk (unfit do not survive in anarchy) with TOO FEW SKILLS TO GET WEALTHY do most of the dying when survival SSSSSKILLS become the only method to survive. Enjoy what you pout yourself & your low-IQ'ed dole-sucking grandchildren into, socialist parasite.
@cadetmouse
5 жыл бұрын
Too many folks here have no content on their pages. Don't even bother replying to them.. Their pages are set up just to argue and be gobby with no face.
@Anonymous-sb9rr
5 жыл бұрын
They probably won'r follow the American model, the people would go mad. Maybe they wan't to try the Dutch model, were there is a somewhat free market, but regulated, and health insurance is heavily subsidised.
@ItsStevieBoy
5 жыл бұрын
Same, that's one reason why I'll likely never visit.
@deathofcommonsense
4 жыл бұрын
Well done Stephen Fry :)
@davidwilton2286
5 жыл бұрын
Listen to some Americans they say KEEP YOUR NHS DONT GO THE WAY WE HAVE GONE KEEP YOUR NHS.
@Johndoe14812
5 жыл бұрын
David Wilton coming from an English man keep your health care the nhs is useless endless waiting times
@Cookiecutter160
5 жыл бұрын
It's already on its knees
@janet8126
5 жыл бұрын
@@Johndoe14812 I agree . Health tourists cost the N H S millions of pounds of loses . If you are rich like Steven Fry and others like him. You can have private treatment . How nice for them.
@greggazro2389
5 жыл бұрын
@@Johndoe14812 coming from an American who lived in England and experienced both -- trust me, US waiting times are worse. I'm sure it fluctuates from facility to facility, but the care I received as a foreigner in England was comparable to the best care I've received as an insured American -- only a lot cheaper in England
@adelefleming7627
5 жыл бұрын
@@greggazro2389 I was born in the UK lived there 39 yrs I now live in the US. Totally agree I waited 6 mths for a surgery in the US with a mailbox full of bills when I got home from the hospital. I have had some of the worst med treatment in the US, paying for insurance does not mean its any better quality treatment. My ER experience was I sat waiting for 2 hours with a broken leg while people were seen before me for trivial ailments such as build up of ear wax. This would not have happened with the NHS were your seen in order of how urgent you need treatment. Just relieved I wasn't having a heart attack I might not of survived.
@batmansmk
5 жыл бұрын
It is not 3 years late. Nothing is definitive, nothing is broken forever. It's the whole European promise, sworn on the warm ashes of a deadly war. Brexit or not, I urge English citizens to not observe passively the short selling of their whole country.
@XxUKZzDabyshirexX
5 жыл бұрын
batmansmk please enlighten me why you think that a person found guilty of a crime in the British justice system, with a jury of British people who are familiar with British values should be able to have their sentence with overruled by a European Court? by someone who may never have set foot in the country before and my not understand what is socially and culturally accepted as wrong in the UK
@jaybot303functionerror4
5 жыл бұрын
Darby it goes back to WW2, the idea behind a central law making centre in Europe to police other countries was to stop events like the holocaust happening. The laws were centralised so that if in the future an other Stalin or Hitler came about minority’s would be protected by European law. That was what Winston Churchill & other leaders of country’s had in mind stopping genocides unfortunately it became something else but idea behind it is still to me a good one, as long as it respects the individual countries rights of democracy that don’t involve killing people.
@XxUKZzDabyshirexX
5 жыл бұрын
John Blackadder Firstly thank you for the detailed response, now explained I can see the morality behind this! however I think we can agree that most international law is made clear about murder and we can only hope that with the introduction of technology nothing as big as the holocaust can ever be hidden from the world again. I think we can hopefully agree that the EU is now delving far deeper into each country’s individuality and local customs to control that what we can assume is acceptable.
@batmansmk
5 жыл бұрын
Darby sorry for the late response. I have limited knowledge about the relationship btwn UK and EU legal system. But overruling mechanisms are usually in place to avoid abusive power and bribery.
@TheBayzent
5 жыл бұрын
It is too late. After Art 50 is enacted is a question of when will you leave, not if you will. The damage is done.
@N0N0111
5 жыл бұрын
In the past 50 years rich corporations only got insane richer. Those money loopholes are the most criminal thing to a country! FIX the trillions worth loopholes, and most of the things will work again!
@Quapadople
5 жыл бұрын
Equality is not possible within a flawed financial system...you can slow down things but never stop them from happening. There is no fix for the unfixable(only the end us)
@GK-qc5ry
5 жыл бұрын
The wealth inequality is truly shocking over the last 10 years. Companies have made billions and the net effect is that austerity and funding cuts to hospitals, GP surgeries, schools (parents paying for stationary), police, social care etc is disproportionately affecting a far higher proportion of society over a very long time period. The banking collapse still affects the UK to this day over 10 years later. The people that caused it hidden, protected, unseen. The rest of society shouldering the burden.
@Rubinati
5 жыл бұрын
What is it with this type of thinking? You people think that corporations sit in cognac leathered boardrooms counting money all day! This is horse shit! Business that are big like amazon, cell phone companies, toilet tissue corporations and so on, are successful because you all (me too of course) buy their stuff..... that is it.. they are not going into your neighborhood to steal it from your 3600€ bank account and 36€ cash you have in a jar. They are not the bad guy, if anything they employ you or your friends/family and loved ones. Why this misplaced hate? Tell your government to become small and ask them to stop spending your money. It is not theirs, they did not earn it, you did, so tell them to spend wisely.
@TheRedstar212
5 жыл бұрын
Rubinati Are you stupid? Buying from businesses isn't the problem but when those businesses don't pay taxes of the profit they make then there's obviously going to be problems, only if everyone else could also avoid tax but naa we get double taxed with vat
@gregbradley7482
5 жыл бұрын
@noxxi knox What is your point ?
@algirdasvasiliauskas2860
3 жыл бұрын
It was good few years here at UK, will be moving to Germany soon.
@Raphiii
3 жыл бұрын
you will be welcome here :)
@davewhiteside6164
3 жыл бұрын
Bye!!!!
@johnqattar3067
3 жыл бұрын
C ya.
@iantrader9919
5 жыл бұрын
"Britain is no less wonderfully British!" - Stephen Fry, 2 months later "I'm leaving London because it no longer feels like England" - couldn't make it up!!!
@Riserri
5 жыл бұрын
The point is transparent.
@shadow67876
5 жыл бұрын
@@Riserri that london is the only city in england?
@deniseg-hill1730
5 жыл бұрын
I though that was john cleese
@redpeony
5 жыл бұрын
If only this was made before the dupes slit our throat!
@MrDidz
5 жыл бұрын
I disagree. The timing of this propaganda was absolutely perfect. Just early enough to influence voting in the EU Election, and just late enough to prevent anyone from publishing a counter-video showing how flawed all the points made in it actually are. The choice of Steven Fry as the narrator is, of course, deliberate because most people still associate him with QI and thus as the man who comes up with quirky but true facts. So, the lies it contains are likely to be swallowed hook, line and sinker by the brain dead sheep. It's really well thought out and well timed and I detect the hand of Alistair Cambell in it somewhere. The only sad consequence is that Steven Fry has just sacrificed his reputation by promoting this rubbish, and like Jimmy Carr, the sacrificial tax evader, will now be abandoned by most of his celebrity following.
@d_andrews
5 жыл бұрын
>says it's flawed and full of lies >doesn't give a single example
@MrDidz
5 жыл бұрын
@@d_andrews Like you'd be willing to take my word for it if I did. And nor should you, it's up to everyone to verify the facts being rammed down our throats by these traitors not to just accept anyone else's word for it. Which is why I said the timing was so perfect as it left no time to verify anything before the election itself.
@GingerRuss75
5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget who Mrs May husband works for.
@dandun30
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, that's why she's a remainer
@jamesrosejr33
5 жыл бұрын
@@dandun30 she's a remainer who has sacrificed her entire career to ensuring we leave the EU. She must be the worst remainer in the county.
@laurentivoli1183
5 жыл бұрын
No, she has always been firmly embedded in the EU. Her husband is prime benefactor in the weapons industry being shareholder of BAE systems and others. His game is to fulfill the long term objective of the EU, destruction and takeover of the Middle East for Greater Israel and eventually the inclusion of Africa into the EU.
@jamesrosejr33
5 жыл бұрын
@@laurentivoli1183 ok. An anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. How apt.
@jamesrosejr33
5 жыл бұрын
@Ravinder Sian we have talked about pretty much nothing else for 3 years. The reason we haven't left is because it's incredibly complicated. If she didn't want to leave, she would have given up by now.
@wildbillbill2249
3 жыл бұрын
I started watching this and then remembered that this is the guy who labelled half of Poland homophobic racists and suggested that victims of sexual abuse should grow up and stop feeling sorry for themselves.
@88888888tiago
5 жыл бұрын
Jus leaving a comment to help the KZitem algorithm promoting this video.
@dervxerox
5 жыл бұрын
Spot on, but the message will be lost on fanatical Brexiteers. Another interesting point is how Brexit has divided the working class which always benefits the Tories.
@pageboy1974
5 жыл бұрын
Are you stuck in 2016? The vote was 3 years ago and the result has not been implemented, now democracy is threatened.
@lavorbitor9711
5 жыл бұрын
Private insurance means no money, no life. That's it, keep the bloody NHS!
@i3luevein
5 жыл бұрын
i pay over £1000 a month to the NHS - I can;t ever get a Dr appointment and when I do they haven't got enough money or time to provide me with primitive healthcare so I then pay a private Dr over £700 to carry our surgery. So i would rather pay that money to something that I can actually benefit from and spongers don't
@lavorbitor9711
5 жыл бұрын
@@i3luevein Sometimes we know that we blow it after we blew it, if that makes sense. I'm paying a lot to the NHS as well and i think i went to the GP once in 4-5 years but that doesn't mean it is not worth it. It is a colective accomplishment, if i didn't use it that doesn't mean i don't need it. You need it, he needs it, she needs it. What about the ones that cannot afford private insurance?. All i'm saying is: when it comes to health, it is pointless to be selfish. Peace!
@Ab-ox7mo
5 жыл бұрын
The world already is no money no life. Thats how shit works. You arent owed anything
@i3luevein
5 жыл бұрын
@@lavorbitor9711 I have been 4 times my whole life, I don't even bother now I just use BUPA
@soulsreaper7145
5 жыл бұрын
@@i3luevein 700 dollars??????? wow that costs so much, said no one in the united states ever, In the united states ppl would kill for such low prices. for surgery in the united states depending on if ur carrer even will pay, and how much they will pay ur still looking at a deductible that can be 5k and 1.5k minimal. not to mention, companies here don't need to offer u health insurance for working for them, well they didn't until Obama care, and that's still only if ur full time. if u arnet full time good luck, cause 1k a month is for a plan that wont even cover u for a flu shot. u piss and moan about what u have, but in reality, u have had it good for so long that u have someone talked urself into de-eveolving and coming from someone in the united states who has the shit side of the stick, u have no idea what ur asking for. and once u lose ur national healthcare system it will take damn near a civil war to get it back. its honestly sad that in a civilized society, with mandatory education, that such uninformed ppl like u still exist. its actually mind blowing
@marknewby5322
3 жыл бұрын
Steven Fry is one of my favorite voices 😍
@biocapsule7311
5 жыл бұрын
Those that think the UK can be "like" Singapore or Norway, never understood how either evolve to function, neither would work for the UK. And Singapore wasn't as "free market" as they liked to think, it just posture itself that way.
@fiddibelow
5 жыл бұрын
We are feeling more taxation fuel prices and so on rise in Norway aswell it's an EU program
@fiddibelow
5 жыл бұрын
We hardly polute but it doesn't matter. Norway and Sweden both have to pay wast amounts so other countries can have the money it's pure communism they don't care that old people starve on streets in Sweden.
@fiddibelow
5 жыл бұрын
@Skodaman2 yep with protests in the streets
@thephilosopherofculture4559
5 жыл бұрын
"money, & not morality is the principle of commerce & commercial nation", Thomas Jefferson, 5 March 1810. Nothing has changed. It is all about the money.
@alanheyes694
5 жыл бұрын
The Philosopher of Culture Money is the root of all corruption.
@benowen8321
5 жыл бұрын
Obviously it is about money. The only other alternatives is we go back to trading items for other items (good luck with that) or communism (also, good luck with that). Money is what motivates people to get off their ass and work and build a better future. Nobody is going to make you a windmill and an electric car for free are they. They want a reward for their efforts. Exactly why cutting taxes on business in the UK can be beneficial, we want people making new stuff to make our lives better i.e. healthier, longer, happier ect. Why do you think people migrate to the UK, for our morals? No, because they want money, and in exchange they provide us with skills that keep our country moving.
@thephilosopherofculture4559
5 жыл бұрын
@@benowen8321 This sounds like an American answer. People have also higher motivations like freedom of expressiona dn the ability to self-determine their lives. Only Trumpists think it is about money. Money is a low motivation and leads to bribery (Mitch McConnell has been bribed with $40 mln a year), the eminence of druglords, unaffordable housing, and a host host of mishaps. The comment of Disraeli was meant as a reproach not as a piece of wisdom.
@benowen8321
5 жыл бұрын
@@thephilosopherofculture4559 so money does bad things therefore money is bad. Is that your argument against money. Also money is not a "trumpist" (what ever that is) idea or an American one.
@thephilosopherofculture4559
5 жыл бұрын
@@benowen8321 The whole point is that to take money as the guiding principle, you forego of all the other good things in life and society. In origin, money is an instrument to facilitate barter. Money is energy, it is useless in itself. Like energy, it has to be used before it has value. To take money as an objective in itself leads to all kinds of problems, for the person himself, for society, for mental and even physical health. Just try it sometime and you will experience what I mean. For instance, soon you will experience a lowering of your self-esteem. Indeed, if it is only about money, you might just as well choose the criminal path with drugs or whatever, don't you? Why don't you? If you don't, think about it. What keeps you from destroying other people's lives for the sake of a fews grand in your pocket? Well?
@petesheehan6927
5 жыл бұрын
This is all very well Stephen but how can I believe you if you won't shout at me?
@secondchance6603
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the same guy that was bitching about free speech laws, guess he's happy with seeing and end to that. Mind you he can run away to wherever he wants, he's not exactly working class having 20 million pounds in his pocket. As long as he has his gay marriage he won't care.
@petesheehan6927
5 жыл бұрын
Your cognitive dissonance is off the charts.
@dallysinghson5569
5 жыл бұрын
@@secondchance6603 He's pro-free speech, what the heck are you talking about? Do you need a second chance to use what little is left of your brain to comprehend the stupidity that you just typed up???
@radekjasionowski5651
5 жыл бұрын
People are themselves for blame. For being arrogant and nationalist and blaming everyone for their own corrupted criminal self absorbed elites! Now we got 7 trillions in debts, no industry and not even dreamed by SKY,Murdoch,Johnson Cameron Singapore! All went to bust!
@kreeperrock
5 жыл бұрын
@@dallysinghson5569 I think the suggestion is he's supporting the EU which has made it clear that it is staunchly anti-free speech with it's article 13 nonsense. Of course free speech is a problem that will persist EU or not due to ever expanding lunacy from the left wing. Jokes illegal, quoting lyrics illegal and thought police checking your thinking after liking a limerick...scary times for the concept of free speech.
@thomashenderson3901
4 жыл бұрын
Hands off our NHS!
@billykiyay
4 жыл бұрын
You do realise the Boris is just the right man to sell it off and the Tory's already have been behind closed doors. The people by voting to leave Europe and re-electing conservative have effectively killed off the NHS.
@a.n.l.aantineoliberalismas4504
4 жыл бұрын
@@billykiyay if they sell the NHS they would essentially be putting a gun to there head and pulling the trigger
@safirahmed
4 жыл бұрын
@@a.n.l.aantineoliberalismas4504 Unfortunately all Conservative MPs have voted to pass a trade bill that allows for NHS services to be included in any US trade deals.
@KamenKunchev
4 жыл бұрын
Too late. NHS has been sold before Brexit. Now it’s just getting on paper.
@castleai9551
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, we need the NHS. It’s British value
@stevelegends8912
5 жыл бұрын
why are so many Rich wealthy people especially those in the legal and specialising in European Law so keen to remain????
@footsoldierforflatearthtru8523
5 жыл бұрын
I agree , I don't trust the BBC, Michael Heseltine, and most mainstream media or Tony blair of Stephen fry and they are all mouthy remainers. It's great for them , -cheap nannies, cheap car washes. Stephen fry knows nothing about the real world and the working classes
@djpheeze
5 жыл бұрын
"People who specialise in EU law want to remain. Obviously this proves that we should leave so convincingly that I don't need to know any of the relevant facts, or give any thought to the consequences! This is definitely a good idea!" - this genius
@SwampValley
5 жыл бұрын
Scotland isn't fooled 🏴
@Dazwa
5 жыл бұрын
SNP OUT !
@SwampValley
5 жыл бұрын
@HellOWorld now that's one hell of a comment... I think you're opinion is not up for renegotiation so I'll just thank you and call it quits 👍
@botany500kojak
5 жыл бұрын
Well you did vote for Jimmy Crankie.
@botany500kojak
5 жыл бұрын
@KD13 You mean like Tony Blair, Brown, Cameron, etc., all the swamp old Crankie is a part of.
@TheHairyHighlander
5 жыл бұрын
@@Dazwa Take that tin whistle and ram it orange boy
@Sam-qn4ep
4 жыл бұрын
The thing is, the UK has been an offshore private state since the beginning. Its success in the world was due to being 'legal' pirates. This is no different. Just modern.
@Sam-qn4ep
4 жыл бұрын
@jay bell So you can see why the UK wants to take these steps. To #takebackcontrol
@plot9adventures
3 жыл бұрын
Were just an island on a treasure for these pirates we are actually an American airbase protecting its loot for the pirates. And China thankfully helps us out in running our nuclear power stations. For certain they run the one in Leicester
@tuttibeachclubgoldensandsv9814
4 жыл бұрын
It's a simple answer Mr Fry ... Because the brexiters won the poll. This is a rhetorical stream based in the presupposition we never voted. Before people try to drown me out I am a remained but I accept the result.
@irishgob9576
5 жыл бұрын
The G20 recently announced new international tax laws that would establish a global tax on companies that funnel their profits through a tax haven and force them to pay tax where consumers are based. A step in the right direction. I say that as someone who lives in Ireland, a country that stands to lose a quarter of its entire tax revenue from this.
@rocketmunkey1
5 жыл бұрын
Giving a group of people you don't know the authority to claim ownership over the entire planet and everyone on it, and the power to pursue you whereever you go in the world and force you to hand them your money that youve worked hard for, a step in the right direction ? Do you like being owned and abused are you a fan of the slave trade or something
@irishgob9576
5 жыл бұрын
@@rocketmunkey1 That's a strawman argument that doesn't address anything, you don't even back up your claims. It's not my money that's being taxed, it's multinational companies that are using legal loopholes to keep their profits from being taxed. Citizens lose money from this, not the other way around. Those proposed laws specifically, is what I said was a step in the right direction. I haven't even presented an opinion on the G20, so I'm not sure what you're getting your knickers in a twist for mate. "You a fan of the slave trade", the irony of saying that to an Irish person. Settle down
@rocketmunkey1
5 жыл бұрын
@@irishgob9576 I dont think you understand what a straw man argument is, Im only repeating what you said in another way, making what you said a strawman argument by your own logic, you clearly said and I quote " The G20 recently announced new international tax laws that would establish a global tax on companies that funnel their profits through a tax haven and force them to pay tax where consumers are based A step in the right direction" Lets put it yet another way you live on an island, and you have something to sell, someone somewhere in the world wants to by that something, the G20 is proposing (and you approve) that I should be able to take a chunk of your money before it even gets to you and give you what I decree you should be paid. well thank you very much thats awfully generous of you, sorry silly me of course its not generous of you I have a right to take your money ('A step in the right direction") so generosity doesn't even come into it ! perhaps I should sneer at you instead of thanking you, what a wonderful world you envisage !
@neilwardle20022
5 жыл бұрын
Cannabis in the Netherlands is illegal, but is decriminalised for personal use. Recreational consumption of the drug is tolerated, and it is available in coffee shops.
@runi5413
5 жыл бұрын
Ironically, it's the political pressure from other EU countries that's keeping us (NL) from fully legalizing it and sticking with a "gedoogdbeleid" (which translates to "policy of allowing things to happen") no one is really happy with, especially our police forces. So yes, that was a pretty wrong example to use, in context.
@AhsimNreiziev
5 жыл бұрын
+[Runi] I'd say it's more the CDA and ChristenUnie that are keeping us from full Legalization. I mean, just look at Piet-Heijn Donner's views on marijuana, and he's one of the more reasonable among the Christian/Conservative Dutch politicians. And at least one of those 2 Parties has been in Government for the entirety of the past 2 decades. Like in Britain, it is of utmost importance that we do not blame the problems within our own Government on the EU.
@reitracks9340
5 жыл бұрын
what about the EU harming the fishermen of the UK? What about EU starting to be a super state? (like EU having a national anthem) What about being able to make our own trade deals with say America?
@rockytekkel406
5 жыл бұрын
moron ....
@mw01908
5 жыл бұрын
All good points which remain quietly ignore
@rockytekkel406
5 жыл бұрын
@@mw01908 and where there is one another is bound to show up ......
@rockytekkel406
5 жыл бұрын
@David Turner and another .... fuck its like whack a mole .....
@backalleycqc4790
5 жыл бұрын
Whataboutisms ... I wonder which country perfected this strategy ....
@billsims1033
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for battling the establishment lies Mr Fry. Like many others I believed you to be pompous and out of touch. However I was very wrong. You speak out the truth here and in other similar videos. Keep fighting !
@geoffbreen2386
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you changed your view of Mr. Fry.
@ThePlacatorySock
5 жыл бұрын
Bet the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy wouldn’t describe Earth as “Mostly Harmless” any more.
@LowinBayrod
5 жыл бұрын
"Mostly Harmless, may need cleaning" That's 150 % more words, in a century we may get a whole sentence !
@SymbioteMullet
5 жыл бұрын
No, it would say "depressingly stupid"
@muntTV
5 жыл бұрын
Mostly whinging about how their being oppressed by someone or another.
@c000rr
5 жыл бұрын
See how health care is used to control the poor & middle classes in the USA??? It happens because the whole wealth of the nation is geared toward war and military. EU is just transforming in this direction with talk of an EU army. Look at the USA military budget 2018, and realize that this could be the EU budget in 10 years. If you want to control your treasury, OUT is the only way! "Some wealthy Brexit backers" but obviously not the majority who back the Rothschilds at al. NWO- 1 world govt., of which the EU is the first stepping stone on the "totalitarian tiptoe"...
@energyben
5 жыл бұрын
There are less wars and less murders per capita than at any point in human history. We forget that that in the 8th century, about 33% of the global population was wiped out in a chinese war, the An Lushan revolt. The second world war mortality rate wasn't even 1% of the global population. They just had swords and horses and still managed to get through a huge number of people, somewhere in the same region as the 2nd world war casualties. Which, given the much much smaller global population in the 8th century, tells you how violent and cruel the world was back then. Genocide has always been business as usual, and accepted as such, and nowadays these things only happen in a few tiny pockets of the world. By our historic standards, we have become mostly harmless
@yeovil50
5 жыл бұрын
I was going to watch it all and learn from it. Learn how people will make money from us leaving the EU. Which I am so sure they will. However, the first interviewee is Michael Heseltine, a man who makes close to a 100,000 year from EU land subsidies!
@yeovil50
5 жыл бұрын
@John Walsh If Brexit had been delivered, you wouldn't have seen Farage again. Unfortunately it hasn't been... So here he is!
@yeovil50
5 жыл бұрын
@John Walsh So, we should ignore it then because some people were not political motivated enough to get there bodies to a voting station because they were so arrogant they believed voting doesn't count? They didn't bother to heed the warning in 2014 when a vehemently anti-EU party become our biggest representative in the EU parliament on a turn out of just 33 percent!
@yeovil50
5 жыл бұрын
@John Walsh and you seriously think that the majority of the UK electorate are Anti-USA? Was it Farage or the EU who was secretly negotiating TTIP with the US government. A policy that would have allowed US companies to privatise parts of the NHS without any comeback?
@petgerco
5 жыл бұрын
@@yeovil50 I don't recall the ttip negotiations being particularly private, I do recall the EU leaving them saying they were dead, I also know If the UK leaves EU we will be far more at the mercy of the "america first" USA as we fall over ourselves to get a trade agreement with them, willing to sell everything in order secure anything! As a matter of interest, assuming you have watched the video what in it do you find to be wrong, apart from the fact Micheal Heseltine appears in it?
@yeovil50
5 жыл бұрын
@@petgerco TTIP was most definitely kept secret for a long time. In fact, it wasn't the Remain camps who first exposed it. Its of course open to interpretation why they broke down. However, it was quite convenient they stopped before they could have had a major impact on the Brexit referendum. Of course, that could have been purely coincidental. I have watched it, and as I said in my opening comment, I am sure many will financially benefit from it. However, if you accept that surely you must accept that many advocating us to stay in the EU, also financially benefit from that decision. Mr Heseltine being just one example. It doesn't matter what happens, we are dealing with politicians and the politician who seriously acts without his of her own interest on mind, is pretty rare.
@jamesmerceron8701
5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else getting V for Vendetta vibes ??
@chrisbungo695
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. They are using Muslims as a weapon.x
@geraltofriffia210
5 жыл бұрын
hmmm. got one of them masks here... I wonder...
@joppippoj
5 жыл бұрын
with stephen indeed
@anarchisttechsupport6644
5 жыл бұрын
Oh yes. That's the trend these days - mimick the worst of what our best fiction warned against.
@evm6177
5 жыл бұрын
Ah the movie our people rightfully deserved to embrace & would hopefully not need yet.. Not until totalitarianism, or something else sinister triggers another anti establishment movement yet again post this Brexit epocollippse.
@ChillingCrowley
3 жыл бұрын
So many poor and lower income people voted to leave, now we're having a no-deal brexit forced upon us by the ruling class. If it wasn't such a tragedy it would be hilarious
@monstercolorfunco4391
5 жыл бұрын
France is bastardizedly not France anymore, i'll have to disagree there. it's not anyone's fault but industrialization. 20 million brefab cubes have been built around france for economic reasons, for homes and busiensses, and most of france looks like prefab cube these days. my city has emptied of nearly all it's industries for economic reasons, and the industry has been replaced by drunks, dudes that set fire to cars and apartments, there's no military service, total cultural dissolution!
@thehellyousay
5 жыл бұрын
And of course, yours is the conclusive opinion, despite you offering zero evidence, reason, or documentation of facts to support your, er, assertions. Seems as plausible as a giant fat man squeezing down chimneys with toys for children in the name of jeebus, yep, it shore 'nuff do...
@mrbearbear83
5 жыл бұрын
The irony of a Tory claiming to be against big business 😂. Gove gives us the same definition in different words
@MrDidz
5 жыл бұрын
I agree that did come across as a bit ironic, but I assume the producer was hoping we would be too stupid to notice. The other thing that struck me was that if leaving the EU is such an amazing opportunity for rich selfish arseholes to make a huge pile of additional cash, why are so many rich selfish arseholes actively campaigning to stay in. I'm afraid I just don't buy the idea that all these people are sacrificing money for the well-being and future of our country, so it kind of undermines the argument they are trying to make. As my son immediately noted when he saw the video 'Rich bastards will find a way to screw the system, whether we are in the EU or out of it. They always do, so the point is irrelevant.'
@str8skeptic
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrDidz Well it's still a large cost in the short term for those businesses campaigning against Brexit. They would like to avoid that cost in the short term and stick with membership. It is expensive for these businesses to move out of the UK. However, the majority of them will be fine in the long term as they can move factories around. However, the people screwed long term will be the working people of this country.
@MrDidz
5 жыл бұрын
@@str8skeptic Absolutely! I mean the main advantage of the EU for large corporations is that all the policy decisions for 741 million people are being made by 28 EU Commissioners in Brussels. So, it makes it much easier and cheaper to bribe them to get what you want. That's why there are 25,000 lobby companies established in Brussels. If you want to preserve democracy and prevent a Wealthocracy then you need to limit the executive power placed in any individual to the bare minimum. 28 separate nation states would be far harder for Corporations to control as its like herding cats.
@bakersmileyface
5 жыл бұрын
Trade tax is going to jump up with EU states and other countries too when we leave the EU. It's interesting that rich people are happy to take such financial hits to their companies and businesses
@MrDidz
5 жыл бұрын
@@bakersmileyface Not sure what you mean by Trade Tax. The only thing I could find called literally 'Trade Tax' is a system used in Germany where businesses are charged Trade Tax (Gewerbesteuer), which is a form of local taxation set by German local authorities. The closest equivalent for British businesses would probably be Business Rates, though I'm not sure they are based on the same formula. Either way, Trade Tax isn't affected by the EU, as its a type of local taxation. So, I'm a bit confused by your post. If what you really meant was 'Trade Tariffs' which are a tax on imports or exports between sovereign states. Then you're really misunderstanding how the tariff system works. It's probably easier to think of a tariff agreement as a huge brick wall with a single gate. Nothing can pass over the wall and so the only way to get your goods through it is to pay the 'Trade Tariff' agreed by the owner of the gate. The EU Common Market has agreed 'Trade Tariffs' with other countries outside the EU and so anyone trying to sell to the EU has to pay a Trade Tariff to Brussels to get their goods through the wall into Europe. That makes non-EU goods more expensive, by the amount of the Tariff that the Brussels has charged, so at the moment everything in our shops made in say the USA, China, Japan or Australia is more expensive because the supplier has had to pay Brussels a tariff to get it there. And most of our imported goods come from outside the EU. Likewise, all of the goods we sell to countries outside the EU have to pass through the EU barrier and we have to pay a tariff on them to get them through the gate, which means that our goods sold in the USA, China, Japan and Australia are more expensive and thus harder to sell to those countries, and once again we export way more goods to non-EU countries than we sell to the EU. When we Leave the EU, the situation will change in that as long as we leave the Customs Union too, we will be outside the EU Tariff Protection Barrier. Which will mean that the EU will have to pay a tariff on goods it wants to sell to the UK, and you are correct that depending upon what that tariff is those goods will go up in price in our shops and make them less attractive to purchase. This will be bad news for the EU as the UK is one of the biggest customers for EU goods. Likewise, 44% of our exported goods go to the EU and at the moment these are tariff-free, but if we leave the Customs Union the EU might decide to put a tariff on those exports which would make our goods more expensive in other European Countries. But overall we should be better off as most of our imports come from outside the EU, and they should be cheaper. So, for example, 'Irish Cheddar' might be more expensive, but 'New Zealand Cheddar' could be cheaper. At the end of the day, it depends on what we negotiate with our various trading partners around the world. If we don't agree any trade deals at all then the tariffs charged will be those dictated by the WTO (World Trade Organisation). However, there is nothing to stop the EU and Britain agreeing on a 'Free Trade Deal', which would effectively mean that no tariffs are charged on any good flowing between the EU and Britain, in which case nothing much would change. Likewise, once we are out of the Common Market we will also be able to agree other 'Free Trade Deals' with countries like the USA, which would mean that their goods would be cheaper than they are now. Some economists have even suggested that the UK should unilaterally declare a 'Zero Tariff' policy on all imports from any country in the world, which would mean everything we buy from abroad would be cheaper to stimulate economic and business growth in the UK. However, that's a pretty bold move as cheaper foreign goods in our shops could create problems for UK businesses who can't compete on price with foreign manufacturing. So, if you are talking about 'Trade Tariffs' then is a bit more complicated than saying that if we leave the EU everything will be more expensive, that's just Remainer spin doctoring.
@zaffranmoon1580
5 жыл бұрын
His voice is so soothing, like listening Radiohead then the truth in the lyrics bite you in the face - Brexiters need to watch this.
@holmsey8700
5 жыл бұрын
natasha jahnse they watch and then ignore
@zaffranmoon1580
5 жыл бұрын
@@holmsey8700 unfortunately so, scary times.
@herbert9241
5 жыл бұрын
Committed secessionist here. I watched, listened, realised I'd read and heard it all before, recognised the familiar and unrelenting subversion of democracy for what it is, commented accordingly. Desperate, sub-political trendies like you need to stop patting yourselves on the back for your apocryphal 'superior intellect'. You've literally been taken in by a palliative, paternal voice dubbed over simplistic cartoon animation.
@samhardie699
5 жыл бұрын
@@zaffranmoon1580 No, we watch and it doesn't change what the EU is and why we want to leave it. Some conspiracy theories about rich people and tax havens doesn't change the fundamental argument that the EU is an increasingly federal and centralised state that we do not wish to be a part of. I'm a small goverment man, I want less goverment inference and this is at odds with the EU its courts and its unelected upper echelons. We voted to leave the EU 3 years ago, and as I'm typing this we are still in it. We would see the democratic result of our vote implemented and the sovereignty of the nation state respected.
@samhardie699
5 жыл бұрын
@@herbert9241 spot on mate
@kidneystones8449
3 жыл бұрын
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.
@cazw179
5 жыл бұрын
No way do we want Health Insurance companies replacing the NHS. 😡
@managementpershore9864
5 жыл бұрын
No-one's advocating that.
@temptemp4174
5 жыл бұрын
If they touch the NHS there will be a revolution to eat the rich
@spoonz1065
5 жыл бұрын
I do find it strange when people say NHS is free . I have been paying into it for the last 20 years currently. And used it twice . Once a dislocation and another for a bad cut ... free you say ? Why does my paycheck state deductions NIC (National insurance deductions £367 a month ........ ) doesn't sound free to me
@ASLEFshrugged
5 жыл бұрын
Privatisation of the NHS is nothing to do with Brexit, it started with the NHS and Community Care Act 1990 with the private sector gradually taking over more and more areas of health care ever since, very much a "boiling frog". It will continue as long as we keep electing governments that follow neo-liberal economic policies although we didn't have much of a choice until 2015 as "New" Labour under Blair and Brown were just as keen on increasing private sector involvement in the supply of services as the Tories.
@managementpershore9864
5 жыл бұрын
@@temptemp4174 The NHS was invented by 'the rich'.
@lexscarlet
5 жыл бұрын
"announce his policy positions after the election." Jamie voice: well THERE'S your problem!!
@glenbrockwell9362
5 жыл бұрын
Adam Voice: OMFG lol
@botany500kojak
5 жыл бұрын
Yes. The policies will be decided by the members.
@davidrawlins2862
5 жыл бұрын
Tax havens should be banned internationally, it’s a completely unfair practice.
@russellhall4945
5 жыл бұрын
HAVE FUN TRYING?, BECAUSE WHO RULES TAX HAVENS? THE RICH.
@kensavage7657
5 жыл бұрын
The EU are doing their best to stop tax havens, and corporate tax evasion. London is already well established as a haven for dirty money internationally. As the EU rules tighten, on things like tax evasion and money laundering - this would threaten London's position, thus really harming the UK's self interest. A no-deal Brexit will help solve that - expect the UK to become one of those corporate tax havens post-Brexit.
@Ziggyziggy1
2 жыл бұрын
This clip should be watched by everyone, And yet people don't seem to care!
@featherbrain7147
5 жыл бұрын
My simple objection to the EU, and it dates from when we joined in the 70's, is that we already have too many politicians. We should not need "them" to follow our own good policies.
@lynneceegee8726
5 жыл бұрын
featherbrain you are well named. That is all.
@featherbrain7147
5 жыл бұрын
@@lynneceegee8726 It's just my opinion. Can't help feeling that way.
@steveholmes11
5 жыл бұрын
Now about we abolish the House of Lords then? 900+ fewer freeloaders.
@featherbrain7147
5 жыл бұрын
@@steveholmes11 I'll go with that. Is it really 900?
@saikoujikan
5 жыл бұрын
The House of Lords provides a useful role in the process of lawmaking. Having a group of advisory elders who are well practiced in law making and legalese reviewing the laws proposed in the commons and suggesting amendments allows for a level of refinement of said laws. The fact that they are not in fear of reelection also ensure that they look at these proposed laws from a different perspective, not one that is designed to keep them elected but rather one that ensures the laws themselves make sense and are workable, even if that means making unpopular decisions. I don’t think the lords should have much power, but I think their abolishment without replacement would severely weaken the process of lawmaking in this country, and may result in less well designed laws with many loopholes making them anywhere from useless to exploitative.
@eduardocampos5739
5 жыл бұрын
“Gotham! Take back control of your city” -Bane said it first
@rayhoodoo847
5 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@ArkhamDeluxe
5 жыл бұрын
@@rayhoodoo847 no u
@kevcullimore5430
5 жыл бұрын
So basically, what your saying Stephen, is we can either have the wealthy elite or the wealthy elite?. Who'd have thought.
@antoniosarmaou6177
3 жыл бұрын
A tidbit. In the USA an MRI with a great insurance cost me MORE than the same MRI without insurance in EU. My insurance in the USA rejected my claim to be compensated for doing three tooth fillings in one appointment and I paid 10 times more for the appointment than the same uninsured appointment in the EU.
@davidwilton2286
5 жыл бұрын
We must not let anyone MESS WITH OUR NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE IT IS CRUCIAL, WE WOULD ALWAYS REGRET IT!!!!!!
@jonathanm877
5 жыл бұрын
NHS is a mess
@p.g.u.d
5 жыл бұрын
Stop your scaremongering crap.
@p.g.u.d
5 жыл бұрын
You are not even UK citizen you snivelling lieing ARSEHOLE. FUCK OFF.
@thomasjhenniganw
5 жыл бұрын
How do you know?
@paproachluver
5 жыл бұрын
@@p.g.u.d exactly the level of eloquence expected of a die-hard brexiteer
@theophilegaudin2329
5 жыл бұрын
How to turn rhetoric of reactionaries about sovereignty, corporatism and invisible naughty elites against themselves. A masterpiece.
@benowen8321
5 жыл бұрын
Lol, I want more globalism, so fry mostly agreed with me on what will happen when we leave.
@immortalsofar5314
5 жыл бұрын
I found a great irony during the Occupy protests when I found myself (a Brit) with my European-American girlfriend and a native American protesting that our country had been stolen from us.
@thelast1900
3 жыл бұрын
One set of thieves calling another set of thieves, thief’s.
@dar1e
3 жыл бұрын
One set of thieve's calling another set of thieve's, thieve's
@shannonlove4328
5 жыл бұрын
True or False: as a member of the EU, Britain is required to pass national laws implementing article 13 and 15 of the EU's new internet copyright law regardless of the majority opinion in the Britain. And isn't this the type of "national" law that only exist because of EU mandate?
@Quintinohthree
5 жыл бұрын
It's a trans-national copyright law. Copyright is indeed an issue that transcends borders and therefore it is appropriate that the EU legislate on this to harmonize copyright within the Union. By the way, the UK in fact supported Article 13 in both the Council and Parliament. Don't blame the EU for it, we didn't force you into it, rather you dragged us, the countries that voted against it, into it.
@wolfetone2012
5 жыл бұрын
@Shannon Love try reminding yourself which people are responsible for getting those articles back after they were shot down in EU parliament. I'll give you a hint. They don't live on mainland Europe
@alejandroagudosanchez5183
5 жыл бұрын
Art.13 is bad because Google said it. it's really so sad how easily people is manipulated.
@oOZdemOo
5 жыл бұрын
How there is not a sea of people in the streets and the parliament on fire, I will never know.
@corbeau-_-
5 жыл бұрын
sheeple indoctrination acceptance decks stacked against us divide and conquer etc.
@simonhartley5444
5 жыл бұрын
If September doesn’t happen there will be.
@keepitmoving5440
5 жыл бұрын
We can only pray for that day! Any volunteers? Lol guy fowkes is well over due again....
@normanstewart7130
5 жыл бұрын
@@simonhartley5444 I think we can be confident that September will happen, it happens every year. Maybe you're referring to 31 October, the leaving date?
@billgowland3250
5 жыл бұрын
I'm alright jack apathy
@thezeitgeist3997
5 жыл бұрын
3:51- 4.00 "New EU laws make it very difficult to dodge tax but moving profits to low tax countries and a new general anti-abuse rule covers national tax loopholes" Wait, I thought the EU wasn't making our laws?
@danielmouncer4131
5 жыл бұрын
Is that your big gotcha moment? Yes the EU makes regulations and directives affecting member states. Nobody is disputing this. But are you forgetting that the UK is part of the EU? The UK has voted in favour of the vast majority of EU laws which affect us.
@thezeitgeist3997
5 жыл бұрын
@@danielmouncer4131 No our parliament hasn't actually voted on any of them.
@reptiloidtill
5 жыл бұрын
@@thezeitgeist3997 yes but your MEPs
@thezeitgeist3997
5 жыл бұрын
@@reptiloidtill MEPs have limited power. Also I believe the UK constitutes around 10% of MEPs, so this country has little power over anything really.
@reptiloidtill
5 жыл бұрын
@@thezeitgeist3997 what makes the UK parliament any more legitimate than the EU parliament?
@timop2163
3 жыл бұрын
Why do we see a picture of Mr Speaker Bercow when Stephen Fry talks of the man he loves and wants to spend the rest of his life with?
@jordank1489
5 жыл бұрын
Sovereignty, Stephen. Control and self determination as a principle. We do not have control over our regulatory framework, for example. Working in the insurance industry has taught me first hand about the troublesome nature of 'directives'. They are incredibly expensive to implement, creating a gigantic barrier to market for anyone without wealthy connections. It's protectionism, and in a global economy that is bad news for growth. How can we create social mobility without entrepreneurship being accessible? I voted remain, by the way. Before anyone goes off on that seemingly inevitable patronising rant about how leavers didn't know what box they were meant to tick.
@mrkellysch
5 жыл бұрын
Tories have a similar privatisation motive as EU. Why no mention of EU's TiSA that is pushing privatisation around the EU.
@stevevater8598
5 жыл бұрын
A very good response . The film mentions "most economists" agree the UK would be poorer . No no no . We probably would for a short period of disruption but in long term we'd be better off . (With the right leadership)
@rollafilms4601
5 жыл бұрын
@@stevevater8598 How?
@mrkellysch
5 жыл бұрын
@@rollafilms4601 We would be incentivised to not rely on manipulation. Producers rather than just consumers~ EU market where farmers are paid to not farm etc.
@tymekpacmaj5908
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting everything us economically minded remainers have been screaming about (since the referendum was announced) into one nice comprehensible video.
@herbert9241
5 жыл бұрын
Albeit three years too late.
@lesleysmith7025
5 жыл бұрын
We have to follow EU directives, regulations. ECJ rules supreme over our own courts.
@petereuk52
5 жыл бұрын
And how many of those have you ever disagreed with? Name just a few please
@blabla6544
5 жыл бұрын
and how may of those have we had a hand in creating? Likely one of if not the biggest hand.
@petereuk52
5 жыл бұрын
@Pingu Thing I see you do not have a clue just like all brexshiters. You're agin it but have no idea why. Pathetic.
@blabla6544
5 жыл бұрын
@@petereuk52 dude chill out my first comment was in agreement with you and asked toward op 😅
@petereuk52
5 жыл бұрын
@@blabla6544 Ok Sorry, I read it another way.
@leejohnp1
3 жыл бұрын
if they are not in control then why do we have to negotiate to leave?
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