Bingo Smith and Fred Brown were some shooters back in the day. Glad they both were in this HORSE tournament obviously not against each other but they were shooting so good, they’d fit perfectly in today’s game.
@MrTommyg024
11 жыл бұрын
Bring Back Our Seattle Supersonics!
@BasketballJones48021
10 жыл бұрын
Always entertained by these HORSE contests. You can say that Brian was not feeling it that day, some unlucky bounces too. Two all-time great pure shooters, right there, plus they could create their own shot and even score in other ways.
@Amick44
7 жыл бұрын
Brian really did have some tough luck, here. Each were great shooters, but he did have some just slightly tough bounces. Tough enough to beat Fred anyhow
@LeonardStauffer
2 жыл бұрын
Horse should be in the NBA All Star weekend.
@Amick44
5 жыл бұрын
Winters was a really good SG back then. But many don't realize how deadly Fred Brown was. Truly feared, deadly AND a creative scorer, not just a pure shooter. He was a difference maker. More than Gus Williams. And I stand by that to this day.
@Mr.56Goldtop
4 жыл бұрын
You knew good things were going to happen when you saw Freddie coming off of the bench!
@Amick44
4 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.56Goldtop as long as you were a Sonics fan!
@Mr.56Goldtop
4 жыл бұрын
Gus was the floor General and spark plug, Freddie was the firepower.
@Amick44
4 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.56Goldtop you know though at the time, John Johnson was really the floor General. At least in the half court. Now on the breaks it was primarily Gus.
@Mr.56Goldtop
4 жыл бұрын
@@Amick44 After DJ left to Phoenix JJ did a lot of ball handling at the small forward/big guard (6'5), Gus was the shooting guard, but was a good ball handler as well. We went through several guards trying to replace DJ but none really filled the job, but we're still good players. Paul Westphal, Gerald Henderson, Vinnie Johnson, end of career David Thompson, and so on. And of course Slick Watts, lol!
@tedberitich2491
Жыл бұрын
I remembered watching this as a young kid. Enjoyed the H-O-R-S-E games at halftime of the NBA on CBS in the late 1970's. Just wondering who did the theme song for this segment? Also, heard this theme song at halftime on the NFL Today on CBS with Brent Musburger. Thanks!
@gates69
Жыл бұрын
That I couldn’t help you with. Sorry
@raygordonteacheschess5501
2 жыл бұрын
Before Curry and Lillard, there was this.
@DaveEk85
15 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting! I love watching-I remember this when I was a kid. Thanks again.
@gato7908
3 ай бұрын
I love the sportsmanship more than anything. The players had class in those days
@mrMITCH1914
14 жыл бұрын
I remember , as a child, pretending i was downtown as we played in our backyard.
@MoonerFury
10 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee vs Milwaukee here. Brian Winters was obviously a Buck, but Freddie Brown was actually from Milwaukee and led Lincoln High School to back to back state championships.
@milwaukeem5019
8 жыл бұрын
Downtown Freddie Brown not only went to Lincoln High School (intersection of Knapp & Cass), but played in the Hillside Projects off 6th & Vliet. On the Sonics, he was a teammate of Johnny Johnson, who went to Messmer.
@madcapper6
8 жыл бұрын
He and JJ were teammates at Iowa too I believe.
@Amick44
7 жыл бұрын
No wonder they wonder won.
@bobby33x97
8 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if these two guys had played during the 3pt era?!
@Amick44
7 жыл бұрын
For sure. Add Pistol and Rick Barry, too.
@bobby33x97
7 жыл бұрын
Dale Brown reviewed video tape of Maravich at LSU & charted his shots. He concluded if there had been a 3pt. line in that era, Maravich would have ave'd 57Pts/game!
@wiseguythesecond2457
7 жыл бұрын
They were around for the 3pt era. Both played into the 1980s. 3pt shot started in 1979-1980 season.
@Amick44
7 жыл бұрын
Each got to shoot it for a few years. Each shot pretty well from 3 range. Just not the kind of volume we've seen the past decade or so.
@Ariamaluum
11 жыл бұрын
I love his release in looking at films and videos off the wrong foot.
@petesluys4984
9 жыл бұрын
Wish they had his 58 point game against the Warriors on video. Would have been 70 if they had a 3 point line. Softest outside touch ever and could penetrate with an assortment of double pumps. He took over many 4th quarters to carry the Sonics to victory
@Amick44
7 жыл бұрын
So do I. I'd love to see that and Rick Barry's 64 pt game vs. Portland (on 30 of 45). 2 guys with unlimited range and confidence.
@davanmani556
5 жыл бұрын
He could perfectly time stepping on a defender’s back heel to get that space.
@ChuckyTheGoat
12 жыл бұрын
Brown also from Milwaukee
@rawsportsradio
Жыл бұрын
Refs had more integrity back then
@80sfreak42
3 жыл бұрын
"He's a great shooter, like we all are." - fred brown
@JA_WILL
Жыл бұрын
Brown was a set-shooter and Winters was a jump shooter. Set shooter will have advantage in any type of contest.
@Amick44
11 ай бұрын
@@JA_WILLboth were jump shooters.
@Mr.56Goldtop
9 жыл бұрын
You will never beat Freddie Brown in a contest shooting from "downtown". Even to this day I have not seen anybody that can shoot consistantly from a great distance like Downtown Freddie Brown. There's a reason for the nickname.
@riccardoportelli4065
4 жыл бұрын
I mean, most div 1 high school kids would destroy him in a shooting contest nowadays... But okay
@ice-iu3vv
4 жыл бұрын
steph curry
@matthewreed4278
4 жыл бұрын
@@riccardoportelli4065 come on bruh u gotta put sum respect on his name
@riccardoportelli4065
4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewreed4278 I put respect on his name, obviously for his time he was insanely good. I'm saying the average div 1 high school player now would destroy him... It's not a knock on him as a player, just the training and coaching now is way superior.
@matthewreed4278
4 жыл бұрын
@@riccardoportelli4065 i kinda get the whole era thing but if you can shoot you can shoot. my guy was shooting over 40 percent from 3 at one point and was shooting shooting over 40 percent before they made the 3 point line. and since he was known for his deep shooting a lot of those were most likely 3s. but ig i can kind of see where u r coming from
@MattAttack54
14 жыл бұрын
I like winters Shot it so pure and just great.
@pudman31
10 жыл бұрын
Here's a crazy question...do you have any footage of Brian Winters dunking?
@gates69
10 жыл бұрын
I do not. Wasn't really a part of his game and I'm not sure I had ever seen him do it.
@Jeff98177
6 жыл бұрын
Mendy Rudolph died from a heart attack in 1979.
@bibi24
13 жыл бұрын
lol always wondered about the smirk on Van Grizz coach winters face. THERE IT IS !!
@williamwalker146
8 ай бұрын
More impressive than Kevin Grevey's perfect H-O-R-S-E game. No offense to Jo Jo White who was great, but Brian Winters really hung in there with Fred for a long while. Those two firing super accurate for a long time without missing.
@gates69
15 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. Enjoy!
@SniffyPoo
11 жыл бұрын
brickfest from winters. anyone else notice the conspicuous lack of a 3-pt line, it just looks wrong!
@ice-iu3vv
4 жыл бұрын
winters is michael jordan's favorite pure shooter. david thompson was his favorite player
@Mr.56Goldtop
4 жыл бұрын
It didnt look like or here but Brian Winters was a deadly outside shooter.
@gates69
11 жыл бұрын
The Bucks stopped wearing those uniforms after the 1976/77 season so I'm not sure when these were taped. I believe he went to the full beard during the 1977/78 season. Before that it was just the fu manchu.
@davanmani556
5 жыл бұрын
gates69 1977-78 season
@MattAttack54
14 жыл бұрын
Mendy Reminds of jack Klugman when he talks
@DannyHauger
Жыл бұрын
Hot crowd
@ddotdrilla
3 жыл бұрын
Who else tried to change the quality ?
@gates69
3 жыл бұрын
What?? Be happy it exists at all 🥴
@1Blkkato
12 жыл бұрын
you can't fuck wit "Downtown Freddie Brown"!
@mrlafayette1964
7 жыл бұрын
alright alright
@TheRandal02lee
11 жыл бұрын
Brian Winters with no full beard?
@80sfreak42
3 жыл бұрын
Bank shot is the easiest shot to make/take
@waveblast2
6 жыл бұрын
set shot vs jump shot . set always more acurate....less moving parts. Bird Never shot a jump shot
@lewiskilgore6418
12 жыл бұрын
Brian was a great shooter...but I didnt like the way played TAN WHITE in Indiana
@carljohnson7585
6 жыл бұрын
talk about a snoozefest
@DGarcia879
4 жыл бұрын
Those Buck unis were ugly
@gates69
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your opinion
@Johnny-xj5qu
10 жыл бұрын
Man has the game evolved. Many high school Freshman can shoot better than this easily now.
@BasketballJones48021
10 жыл бұрын
Right... You couldn't be more wrong but keep saying that. I guess you were joking because that was a laughable observation. Only thing that really progressed about shooting is 3pt shooting because the 3pt line was a new thing back then (introduced, in the NBA, in 1980) but you could say that close/mid-range shooting has gotten worse along with off-ball movement; you can also look at FT%'s and there's no improvement in terms of that. I guess that in today's HORSE contests everybody is making everything? Go watch some recent ones, in their entirety, with NBA players, and they're not better than this one. In 2005, Michael Jordan said Brian Winters was probably the best pure shooter he's ever seen, for example.
@seanedwards6066
10 жыл бұрын
yeah shooting and creativity are worse!
@Mr.56Goldtop
9 жыл бұрын
BasketballJones48021 Made no difference to Freddie Brown, even before the 3 pt line he was firing away from 30 or more. If he had the 3 pt line his whole career he would have a huge amount of points more then he ended with. Look how easy he makes those long shots look here.
@roundtable3501
3 жыл бұрын
Freddie brown was a 37% 3 point shooter, despite having a 3 point line the last 5 years of his career. If he had it in high school, college, and all the years of his pros, that would easily go up. But 37% is better than a lot of more modern pros. Better than Jordan, better than Kobe, better than Lebron, better than Westbrook, better than harden. Yeah, looks like you have a recency bias there Johnny.
@Johnny-xj5qu
3 жыл бұрын
@@roundtable3501 as a catch and shoot guy who averaged less than 1 3pt attempt per game. There’s no possible way to know if he’d be a 30% or 40% shooter if he took more, which means taking more difficult ones.
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