This is why we have COURTS. If she thinks her friend was arrested illegally then you contact a lawyer, contest the arrest and if needed SUE the city for wrongful imprisonment. There are legal steps to take, this is not it.
@randall5073
2 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is people do need to spend a lot of money to hire a lawyer because so many cops don't know the laws and falsely arrest people all the time. So even when you're not guilty it's going to cost you a lot of money.
@jeffrconner
2 жыл бұрын
@@randall5073 a public prosecutor has to investigate and potentially bring litigation against any criminal activity, and many private prosecution attorneys will take a civil case pro bono if they feel they have enough evidence and standing to get a decision that will result in a payment from the defense.
@randall5073
2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffrconner Most attorneys will not take a civil case unless they know there might be a big payday. In most cases there will not be a big pay day so they don't bother.
@jeffrconner
2 жыл бұрын
@@randall5073 these ladies were trying to file criminal charges, and there is no choice in a criminal case. Public prosecutors have to prosecute criminal activity. So if they truly had a criminal case, it's not these women's responsibility to hire a prosecutor. The courts do that as long as a criminal activity is assessed. You are right though, they would have to pay if they wanted to do a civil lawsuit. Although, any attorney is going to take it if they think there's enough proof to get it through the court, 'cause "People versus City" is usually a good payday.
@chetstevens4583
2 жыл бұрын
@@shynobody3191 actually courts are free, lawyers cost money. I have been in a courtroom twice and have not had to pay. One case was actually similar to this in I was challenging a cops BS story. Since he never showed on the court date the whole thing was thrown out.
@johnnielson4341
2 жыл бұрын
11:50 The Karen's don't have a point. Her friend was asked to leave, refused, then arrested for trespassing. Completely legal and appropriate. As you heard her say at the end, she thinks that she's in charge and the police and the post office employees all work for her and that she is their master. She's lucky she wasn't arrested.
@marcellinejackson3826
2 жыл бұрын
Damn! She wasn't?
@momD612
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcellinejackson3826 🤣🤣
@codypk5111
2 жыл бұрын
I’d have guessed tazed then arrested
@johnnielson4341
2 жыл бұрын
@@codypk5111 I would have *hoped* tazed then arrested. Or tazed, tazed the arrested. Of maybe tazed, tazed, arrested, tazed.
@TheMemoriesOfNobody
2 жыл бұрын
@@codypk5111 I wish :)
@aj897
2 жыл бұрын
9:40 Is that even a question? The woman is completely in the wrong, she wants to sue the Police department for a lawful arrest......
@renaetieman6581
2 жыл бұрын
I can tell you FOR SURE this happened in California. I recognized the penal codes. (I'm a Police Scanner Nerd). On Behalf of California, I apologize for y'all having to watch this. Penal code 602 (Trespassing) is enforced when a business or citizen has an unwanted person on their property. Mostly the officers will just come, take their info, ask them to leave. Person Leaves, that's that. They don't arrest for trespassing UNLESS (1) The person is a d^ck to the officer (2) The property owner wants to press charges (3) this is a violation of a "no Trespassing Order" Legally filed by the property owner (4) The person REFUSES to leave. Trust me. PD doesn't like to deal with trespassing calls. I often hear the audible eyerolls over the scanner.
@EmpressMermaid
2 жыл бұрын
That cop they were talking to has much more patience than almost anyone I know.
@chachaj914
2 жыл бұрын
That's why he's in the position he's in. I can't imagine how many times he's been put in spots like this.
@george217
2 жыл бұрын
They should have arrested her for impersonation of a police officer. LMAO
@tubbyman77
2 жыл бұрын
They're trolls. You don't bring a megaphone, use it to yell at a police station, and smile like that otherwise.
@Cassxowary
2 жыл бұрын
you'd think...
@TaylorTravelsTheWorld
2 жыл бұрын
her friend was asked to leave and left (Officially tresspassed) and then he came back so he got arrested, which somehow she sees as kidnapping.... she also brought up that they can "strip them of their immunity" which is untrue. A police officer can lose their immunity if a court case rules on that law, from that point on law enforcement does not have qualified immunity in that state. These two were making no sense and did not have a foot to stand on. I would be hard pressed to believe that any lawyer would take that case.
@randall5073
2 жыл бұрын
If you are on public property you need to break a law before you can be (Officially trespassed). I'm not sure her friend broke any law so I don't think there would be a reason to (Officially trespassed) him.
@renaetieman6581
2 жыл бұрын
@@randall5073 california penal code (415) (Creating a public disturbance) can be cited as a reason for someone being trespassed on public property. Then there's 415v which is where someone begins making threats of violence or begins to act violently (throwing things, hitting people etc). There's "415 Weapon" where the person has a weapon and is creating a disturbance without directly threatening anyone. Often the person may be arrested for another charge, then the police take them to the station, and reduce the charges...more of like a cool down period to de escalate. Keep in mind these "codes" are things I've heard on the scanner...California Penal code is the "602" (trespassing) and "415" (Creating a disturbance). The rest may be subject to the department dispatch.
@randall5073
2 жыл бұрын
@@renaetieman6581 But was the guy (Creating a public disturbance)? We know cops lie all the time, in fact it's legal for the cops to lie. And if the guy is doing something legal and people are freaking out it's the people who are freaking out that are causing a disturbance not the guy.
@renaetieman6581
2 жыл бұрын
@@randall5073 considering he was asked to leave and then returned (the only way that would be known is if someone called in). Then he would be in violation of a trespass order which IS a crime. And this is cause for arrest without the 415.
@Grynslvr2
2 жыл бұрын
Generally I agree. I just wish everyone would quilt using the word "trespassed" when they mean 'received a warning to stop trespassing.' The person who remained on the property after being warned to leave, committed the crime of trespassing. They trespassed. Warning someone to leave a not come back is not 'trespassing ' them. Sorry, but it galls me.
@joeshmooo5327
2 жыл бұрын
She is not right, her friend was arrested not kidnaped LMAO, Someone didn't take there medication.
@dstamour625
2 жыл бұрын
And to think he was released 2 hrs later. That isn’t a long time at all. That’s nothing
@timcaldwell5241
2 жыл бұрын
Trespass is Tresspass…plain and simple! Prosecutable in any court dealing with such matters. Her ire is totally misdirected…her beef is with the Post Office, which is a HUGE Federal bureaucracy that can and does, on a regular basis, drive “normal” people mad. That being said, there ARE many Civil Service employees there that are wonderfully helpful. I’m guessing that if her “friend” returns he’ll be escorted out by US Marshals with a MUCH different outcome! As they say, with friends like them, who needs enemies?/!
@lareeseblaque8303
2 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ✅️
@Cassxowary
2 жыл бұрын
agreed but their (belonging to them) not there (location/situation) or they're (contraction of they are)
@joeshmooo5327
2 жыл бұрын
@@Cassxowary truth! 😊😊😊
@jdodd2798
2 жыл бұрын
They weren't the one arrested, so they have no standing here! They're frustrated and wanted to try and throw their weight around and try to intimidate the officers! If the guy who was arrested has a beef, it's up to him to go through the proper procedures. I think they were very lucky that they weren't arrested for trespassing at the police department when they started yelling at them! These women are just bored and need to get a life!
@tiffanyjack6095
2 жыл бұрын
I hate to say it, but bored housewives came to mind.
@swan4163
2 жыл бұрын
The Karens do not have legal standing to challenge the arrest. Only the person who was arrested can challenge the arrest, which happens when the person goes before the judge. In the US, you cannot "file charges" on behalf of someone else, and you have to show in your lawsuit at the very beginning that you have legal standing to sue; if you don't show that, the judge will throw the lawsuit out from the get-go. In criminal cases, it's up to the District Attorney's (DA) office to file charges if they think they can prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt, so they'd have better luck going to the DA and not bothering the cops. Also, these karens don't understand the difference between criminal and civil law. If your rights were violated, that's a civil lawsuit, not a criminal one, and cops don't have anything to do with "enforcing" civil law. Plus, in most places, cops have "qualified immunity' which means they cannot be held liable for anything if they were acting within the course of their duty. But arresting someone for trespassing--even if the person wasn't trespassing--is something the person who was arrested can fight when they go before the judge. Bottom line is their friend was asked to leave the post office; they didn't leave, and the post office called the police to have them removed. At that point the cops probably showed up and informed them that they were asked to leave, and they would be arrested if they didn't leave, and they probably argued some bullshit like these karens tried and refused to leave, so they got arrested. Pretty simple. Their friend probably had to spend a couple nights in jail and pay a fine, unless they made it worse for themselves and acted out in court, which probably happened. lol
@jonathanwolfe4826
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining this calmly and legally, my thoughts were getting darker about people like this . Disrespectful and bullying tactics of the public towards people who are trying to help you is not going to improve the situation.
@jonathanwolfe4826
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining this calmly and legally, my thoughts were getting darker about people like this . Disrespectful and bullying tactics of the public towards people who are trying to help you is not going to improve the situation.
@reneehomen2226
2 жыл бұрын
Some people don't have the sense of a rock! I love how the officer isn't even looking at her print out. Um Google does not make an attorney. It's too bad you couldn't be arrested for being a jerk. No , the " karens" did not have a clue.
@charlesbeaty3668
2 жыл бұрын
Well, these are several minutes I'll never get back, LOL. No dude, she was never right on one single point. When they were passing out brains, she thought they said trains, and she said "Please give me a slow one."
@themourningstar338
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@mchawk315
2 жыл бұрын
The reason she didn't go through a lawyer because no lawyer would actually take her as a client because they know she is flat in the wrong.
@johnnielson4341
2 жыл бұрын
3:00 No, she's not right. Her friend was arrested and she's calling it "kidnapping"
@momclg
2 жыл бұрын
No the post office asked her to leave(which is their right) when they wouldn’t leave it’s trespassing, so the post office called the police to remove them. When they wouldn’t leave they were arrested. The police were in the right and they were wrong
@holleyjohnson7197
2 жыл бұрын
She needs to hire a lawyer. This is the wrong way to handle this situation
@jeffking4176
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know ANY Lawyer that would take this “case”. He was arrested for trespassing - HE can get a Lawyer .
@johnnielson4341
2 жыл бұрын
8:00 Her belief is that because the Post Office is a government owned entity then *SHE* is the boss and no one has a right to tell her to leave.
@donnagonatas3155
2 жыл бұрын
She needs to mind her own business. Let her friend make the complaint!
@DrewRycerz
2 жыл бұрын
I'm siding with the police on this one. She doesn't seem to understand English. Not only that but take it up in court it's almost like it was all done for show. "WE ARE YOUR MASTERS" bro she needs her meds.
@tiffanyjack6095
2 жыл бұрын
They came across as white privileged is how they came across. As a white person, I am totally ashamed of how these two behaved. "We are your masters." Well damn, didn't know police had become slaves now. What the "Karens" weren't clearly getting, is the fact that the police arrested a private citizen inside a federal building. Karens should have called a lawyer, explained why they were upset about their friend's arrest and then I am sure the lawyer would have told them if they had a case or not. No matter how many lawyers they called. Now, depending on the reason for the friend or friends it sounds like, that were asked to leave and then the 1 who refused and was arrested, I don't know, I wasn't there. But, judging by the company they hold, probably just wanted them to shut up and get out! If they were not that way, well, you might want to think about some new friends.
@marcellinejackson3826
2 жыл бұрын
Shid. The lawyers weren't going to get a chance to talk.😁
@tiffanyjack6095
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcellinejackson3826 That is probably closer to the truth! LMAO
@Jeff_Lichtman
2 жыл бұрын
I admire the cops' patience. What these dopes don't understand is that the police don't have to establish guilt to arrest someone. The standard for arrest is probable cause to believe that the law has been violated. A verdict of guilty or not guilty is established by the court, if the case gets that far. Just because the police have arrested someone who is later released without charges doesn't make it a false arrest. And if the person did refuse to leave the post office, he actually did trespass. The police are 100% right in this case. These women could have tried to hire a lawyer, but they have a couple of problems. First, they have no case. Any lawyer would tell them it was a proper arrest. And second, they don't have standing. Even if it were an improper arrest, they weren't the ones arrested.
@davidruple4147
2 жыл бұрын
The friggin internet, man. Everyone suddenly became experts of law after a few googles.
@62rowley
2 жыл бұрын
The guy was trespassed and refuse to leave. They’re trying to argue aspects of a law. It isn’t law-enforcements job to argue the aspects of a law. If a law was broken or not broken that’s all they’re concerned with. The judges and the courts get to argue the technicalities of it. It’s like when someone gets arrested and they say the police let them go. The court system let them go not the police.
@TheBubbaClemson
2 жыл бұрын
You were correct, get a lawyer, go through the legal process and then be thrown out of court... Or the cops could just taze them to shut them up.. (That was a joke)
@samanthabradley860
2 жыл бұрын
It would scare me even more if *she* was the lawyer. 😬 Also, the more I watch this, the dumber I become 🙄
@aleatharhea
2 жыл бұрын
You don't waylay a cop with a bunch of Google printouts. You get a lawyer. One of the judicial websites I maintains is for the Texas State Commission on Judicial Conduct, where you can file a complaint against a judge. There's a reason their complaint form say "Do NOT cite legal code or precedent in your complaint." You're supposed to state your Complaint in plain English, and the experts will interpret what legal codes are applicable. So you don't waste everyone's time with your complete misunderstanding of law.
@renaetieman6581
2 жыл бұрын
Also, Things that made the officer REALLY hate them: "Unlawful Imprisonment" (At that moment the officer wrote her off as either a Karen or A Sovereign Citizen...But once she said "Color of law" i went towards BOTH Karen AND SovCit) The stack of papers showing the law The "Hand" the most annoying thing: We Pay your salary. -_-
@claudiakarl7888
2 жыл бұрын
In that first clip the officer‘s thoughts seem to be: the light is on, but no one is home.
@Grynslvr2
2 жыл бұрын
No, the Karens do NOT have a point. From what I gathered, the arrested party was warned by U.S. Postal Service employees to leave a Post Office and not return. Those employees have the power to tell a troublesome person to leave the premises. Yes, it is a publicly owned building and generally open to the public, BUT that does not mean that members of the public can enter and act any way they want with impunity. Some behaviors will have consequences. While this happened on Federal property, the Federal employees realized that the building was also in the jurisdiction of a city. They called the local police, rather than one of the Postal Inspectors (who have more important things to do than file misdemeanor charges on some guy), and let the city cops handle the light work. The Postal employee in charge of the Post Office that day (on duty manager of some sort) made the decision to file charges if the man didn't leave. There was a warning issued. The man didn't leave, so he was arrested and forced to leave by the city cops. This was an "in progress" type call that warranted immediate attention.. No kidnapping occurred since this was a lawful arrest for a crime that happened in front of the police officer at the Post Office. He received the Postal employee's complain, issued a warning (probably multiple times), and finally resorted to making an arrest. Criminal trespass (or whatever that state calls it) arrests happen daily in every major city in the U.S. and most of the medium sized ones. As for the cop and supervisor on the video, in their place, I might well have arrested both women for attempting to make a false report of a major felony, and let the judge sort them out. There were probably other charges that would apply also since they were taking up the officer's time insisting that it had to be handled NOW when what they were complaining about was not an "in progress" type of thing. It had already happened, and could be dealt with by the courts at any time.
@Stache987
2 жыл бұрын
I see two places charges could have been placed at the women, using emergency response lines repeatedly for a non emergency situation, harassment of a public official in the line of duty (both women, sorry, this behavior isn't that of a LADY), and disturbing the peace with not only her volume and tactics, but her friends use of the megaphone at the police to intimidate.. afaic keep them there as long as you can before not pressing charges, 96 hours isn't it? Let them find out how well bologna tastes 3x a day at the greybar hotel, hopefully missing the first days dinner. Make them pay medication copayments and all.
@BWhicherPhotography
2 жыл бұрын
"We are your masters!" Uh, no. LOL!!!!!
@deannafisher2658
2 жыл бұрын
Police officer’s job is to respond to call and make arrest if necessary based on circumstances at that moment. If it was an unlawful arrest, that is up to the court system to decide at hearing/ trial.
@darrinlindsey
2 жыл бұрын
If the person was asked to leave the Post Office, and they refused, they were then trespassing. The officer had every right to arrest the person. The Karen didn't have a point at all.
@cameo1184
2 жыл бұрын
If the post office asked him to leave and he refused, he was then trespassing and the arrest is completely legal. I would think a lawyer, if he's ethical and not just going to take the case to get their money, would tell him they have no grounds. A legal arrest is not kidnapping. I also love how she tried to get him with a gotcha with the code number...ugh. People are the worst.
@wolfe6220
2 жыл бұрын
It's the Dunning-Kruger effect. I have to deal with idiots of this ilk all day long. Thankfully, not in person, but in writing. I roll my eyes so hard on a daily basis over their attempts to bs people that I swear my eyes are going to roll into another dimension.
@mommyofkittens4809
2 жыл бұрын
The Karens are in the wrong. The ignorance and arrogance is exhausting.
@dianecomly6132
2 жыл бұрын
The women are wrong. People have been 'auditing' post offices which is illegal unless they have permission. These people think they can't be trespassed if a building is open to the public. Then they claim that their rights have been violated in order to score money via a lawsuit.
@BIGBLOCK5022006
2 жыл бұрын
Kabir, I watched that actual video and when that loudmouth Karen said "We are your masters!" I was thinking that if I was that cop I would've told her "I don't recall being bought at an auction and I sure as hell don't recall my name being Toby or Kunta Kinte."
@kabirconsiders
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@amymcmillen9248
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Kabir- Still loving your reactions and opinions. Keep up the hard work. Stay well and have a Happy Summer.
@stellaandes759
2 жыл бұрын
This made me so tense that I had to stop short of finishing it. I had vicarious victimization by this bully. She thinks she's being so good. Actually, as I am writing this, the women apparently left.
@patshore4359
2 жыл бұрын
If they are asked to leave ANYWHERE and you do not, that is trespassing! They should have arrested them.
@kayyyyooo6946
2 жыл бұрын
in no world are those ladies right, those guys are so patient, i couldn’t take that bs. how you gonna lecture cops about the law and in the same breath not understand that the cops can’t sue the post office for your friend??!?!?
@thancrow
2 жыл бұрын
Any time they say color of law, you know they are clueless. If they ask you to leave and you don't leave it is trespassing.
@rosameryrojas-delcerro1059
2 жыл бұрын
She sounds like a sovereign citizen that printed out a bunch of junk that she thought supported her case, thinking it would make the cops look like fools.
@EmpressMermaid
2 жыл бұрын
Even if the arrest was unjustified (and I don't know whether it was or not) she is not in the right here in that the officer is not guilty of "kidnapping". At most it is wrongful arrest and there is a solution to that problem and that it to file a civil complaint. It's possible they can have the record of the arrest vacated and if they can prove damages can be compensated. But again, there is an established procedure for that. Likely if he was released two hours later there was never even a formal record of it. Google is not a lawyer, people.
@GenXfrom75
2 жыл бұрын
She was there for ANOTHER person..the person she is complaining for isn't even there. She's going to have to let her friend go to court on the matter. She's being ridiculous.
@karenjayne24
2 жыл бұрын
What is bizarre is that neither of these women were the one arrested. It seems to me that the issue is between the person arrested and LE.
@ClaireRader
2 жыл бұрын
She definitely should have used the court system. It's so easy to sue someone these days (at least in the US) that it almost makes me wonder if she actually understood that the arrest was legal but was having a hard time accepting it. I don't quite understand how she thought that this would make a difference. I understand that place to make wrongful arrests at times but the way she went about it just seems severely misguided.
@codypk5111
2 жыл бұрын
If anything she sandbagged her friends
@zerocool46
2 жыл бұрын
If you are on any business property and refuse to leave that's trespassing and an arrestable offense
@jeffburdick869
2 жыл бұрын
2:58 I think a lawyer would've looked at her, rolled their eyes, shook their head, had their mouth in like a "you cant be serious right?" sort of position. And then either send her away and be annoyed that she wasted my time...or if they were not super busy and had a lot of open hours said "fine, I'll take your case, but I want (very high number) hourly and I want you to pay(very large amount) as a deposit for my services before I even look any further at this.
@danielchapman6032
2 жыл бұрын
She is confused. Trespassing is a local law and the local laws were handled by the local law enforcement. But now that it has happened the courts will handle it. I just wonder how these women would have handled living in a black neighborhood in L.A. in the 90's where hanging outside with your friends would get you thrown to the ground and searched.
@mikehink4062
2 жыл бұрын
The cops are definitely in the right here Kabir. He was trespassed and returned to the location, so he was arrested. Not kidnapped, and I’d like to know where in America you can be arrested and be out 2 hours later?!?!? It usually takes at least that long just get to jail after reports are filled out and you have to wait at the station or in the parking lot of gas station for the paddy wagon to pick you up from the officer. Then it’s another 6-8 hours to go through the bail process if you make bail at all before first appearance the following morning.
@jeffking4176
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know ANY Lawyer that would [ seriously] take Their case. HE was arrested for Trespassing. HE can get an Attorney (( *Or one will be appointed to him)), to fight HIS case [ though I doubt he would “win”. She is accusing the Arresting Officer(s) of “Kidnapping “ - [ which is absolutely ludicrous]. Kidnapping IS a FEDERAL crime, so , yeah, it would fall into the Jurisdiction of the Fed. ie: the FBI. But I can tell you , they won’t put up with their silliness. They would tell these two where to jump, and if the gave the Feds trouble, THEY might just be arrested. - - what idiots. - 📻😑
@gregcissell345
2 жыл бұрын
They feel like thay accomplished something by showing this man her ignorance.
@randygagliano4929
2 жыл бұрын
once her friend was asked to leave and refused, he was trespassing and was open to arrest
@megabsupreme
2 жыл бұрын
They have no use for the cops unless they're calling them on their Black neighbors. "WE ARE YOUR MASTERS!" screamed through a megaphone. I bet that's what they're screaming in their brains when they call 9-1-1 on Malik who moved in next door for daring to live in their neighborhood while asking to speak to the manager of their local home owners' association. But seriously, unless these women are their friend's legal guardians, they have no right to be there at all, even if he has a case. It's none of their business, not that that has ever stopped a Karen on a mission. Notice their friend ain't there with them. 🤨
@jacenjustice
2 жыл бұрын
Can we just appreciate for a moment how Kabir usually drops 3-4 reactions at once.
@donnagonatas3155
2 жыл бұрын
Her friend refused to wear a mask. So he was arrested.
@steeljawX
2 жыл бұрын
She's swinging her fists at a hurricane. There's a time and place for everything and trying to show up law enforcement officers because its the thing all the woke kids are shrieking about online these days and you feel like you're now empowered doesn't make it right or the smart thing to do. I don't believe the Karens had any point to make because there's common sense that they're disregarding. Any business, federal; public; or private, reserves the right to refuse business to any individual. If they ask someone to leave that is that person losing their right to be on that particular business's property. Continuing to be there is the offense of trespassing and they can be forcefully removed by law enforcement. You can tell how lose these Karens grasp of reality really is when they call the detainment of their "friend" (probably gimp number 37) as kidnapping.
@Allsizes
Жыл бұрын
If you're told to leave but refuse to which her friend did...that is trespassing
@murieljames4022
2 жыл бұрын
The police can sue those two Karen’s for harassment to the police department! You better believe if they were two black Karen’s the police would have not been that patient or kind!
@Lilly-gp5ne
Жыл бұрын
It's not about her friend, it's not about the law, it's about the amount of views she wanted to get for telling the officers "We're your Masters!"...as if she put them in their place or something. It was all just about recording the confrontation and how smart they thought they were. Someone really outraged for the treatment their friend suffered wouldn't be smiling and happy like Karen Jr was.
@killachaos1208
2 жыл бұрын
She had the energy to look up those U.S. codes, but couldn't bother to figure out how to file a complaint? She really is peaking in her karen ways. I will say both officers kept their cool and stayed professional which is good considering the current climate in America with policing.
@chrystlearkan1968
2 жыл бұрын
The Supreme Court has determined that it is not against the law to be disrespectful, swear at, or use profanity or vulgar language toward a police officer. That said, the women are way out of bounds. You're quite correct about contacting a lawyer. That would have been their best avenue for dealing with this situation. Since we don't have any video of the interactions of their friend at the Post Office, we can't tell if the arrest was lawful of not. They could be playing for clicks and likes on their video, and so think that it will be more popular the more belligerent they are. Some auditors take pictures or videos of public areas in public buildings because they are testing whether the staff or the police will follow the law, as the Supreme Court has also determined that it isn't against the law to video in any public space. Police will often use excuses to stop them and will occasionally arrest them, but if the auditor follows up with a complaint of false arrest, the auditor can be awarded monitary damages.
@eq1373
2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that these chuckheads don't actually know what constitutes a "public space".
@smokeyverton7981
2 жыл бұрын
Please consider BILL HICKS. A comedian truly ahead of his time
@JimFeig
2 жыл бұрын
Karen's never like being called out.
@marybrown6128
Жыл бұрын
Kudos to those officers for keeping their cool. And I agree totally that they should have taken this up with an attorney.
@allanrose2964
2 жыл бұрын
She is just pulling disparate pieces of the law, quoting that, and most not specific to what she wants to do. She has to go through the courts to "press charges" (DA office). She can file a complaint with the police but that's about it. Take them to small claims and have it dismissed at the hearing. They're just nuts.
@shadow7796
2 жыл бұрын
If the person in charge of a property asks or instructs you to leave, you are trespassing after that point if you choose not to. You can also be banned from that property for life. Doing this on a federal property can have much more severe penalties than if it were privately owned.
@DrewRycerz
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being married to her. DID YOU TAKE OUT THE GARBAGE? HUH? HUH? DID YOU ? HUH? WHY ISN'T THE GARBAGE OUT YET? THAT'S HARRASSMENT. *facepalm
@ellenlanderson
2 жыл бұрын
If Karen ever stopped talking she would have to hear the truth.
@hollymorris785
2 жыл бұрын
She is totally out of line. She will not let him finish a single statement. He seems to be trying to help her figure things out several times. We are your masters!!??WTF
@Jeeperskip
2 жыл бұрын
The best part is that they put this online themselves thinking they were going to get lots of love for it.
@ghettopimpinazn
2 жыл бұрын
If u follow that story they tried to sue the police and they lost. Also they were fined $10000 for trying to do the same to the judge.
@betsybabf748
Жыл бұрын
The most Karen person I know is my husband's birth mother, named Karen. We've said, "Don't be a Karen" since the 80s. The fact it is now used cracks me up.
@timhuffmaster3588
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Through a lawyer and not directly to a cop.
@sharcrum
2 жыл бұрын
She's just trying to be a pain in the ass because someone that's her friend was arrested so she wanted to become a know-it-all and assert her (perceived) dominance!!!!
@israelmartinez9473
2 жыл бұрын
Legal recourse there Karen. However, I get her frustration. There are the few bad law enforcement officers that do blatantly ignore our rights. But that's what the courts are for
@loveit7484
2 жыл бұрын
Good greif! There are real problems in life. I dont see this as one. What they ultimately want is an ego bump. Agree with you. Take it to a lawyer. She wanted to show how superior she is. What a waste of energy.
@OldRancher
2 жыл бұрын
The Karen wasn't right at all, if a person was trespassed off the property especially Federal property and a cop ask them to leave and the subject refused, they would be arrested. Plus she is quoting local and State law, the Post Office is under Federal Jurisdiction that request local law Enforcement help since the Federal building is within the local Police jurisdiction for response for help.
@savinggraace
11 ай бұрын
Those women went about this all the wrong way. They should have gone through a lawyer. Bullying the police is NOT the way to go.
@TheCoderJo
2 жыл бұрын
She was not in the right. First of all any complaint should’ve come from the person who was arrested. Any other complaint should have gone through proper police channels, which doesn’t mean just talking to a supervisor. From the explanation given by the officers, it was a lawful arrest and it followed due process and their friend was released. They have taken it to another level and they’re just totally out of line
@bgt54rfvcde32wsxzaq1
2 жыл бұрын
Kabir, Did You Just Say "She Might Be Right!" Arrest The Entire Post Office! 🏤
@patphatkitten
2 жыл бұрын
No, they were not right in anyway. The man would not leave so he was arrested for trespassing. It is like a stranger refuses to leave your house. It is trespassing. They call it kidnapping. They need a dictionary.
@Kenyon712
2 жыл бұрын
Courts deal with this. He was arrested because the Post Office called the cops to remove him. He refused and was arrested.
@kentmont
Жыл бұрын
Her little sidekick needs to take a hike
@oknowIguess
Жыл бұрын
They should be arrested for filing a false report. Entitlement at its finest.
@debischepers2983
8 ай бұрын
I think I can see why the Post Office folks called the police the day before to get rid of these idiots.
@xanderquinn6010
4 ай бұрын
She has no grounds to stand on, the post office is not public property, If the staff at the Office asked them to leave, then they are obligated to leave, not leaving constitutes trespassing, and the charges will land and stick!
@keegansmetanko3755
9 ай бұрын
big issue with her initial argument, EVERY cop knows what U.S. Code 42 section 1983 is. They are nicknamed a 1983 case, it is the code that allows people to file CIVILY against an officer or state employee who is acting under the color of law (police officer) when they believe their rights were violated. Generally when these suits are put into action they are against the chain of command not just the individual officer. The officer, his direct supervisor, his supervisor, chief, city, sometimes the individual mayor. Also biggest issue here is that when you sue someone in any capacity you speak to a lawyer to carry this out and not really a co-worker of the person you are suing. Also other major issue, they are not the person arrested... I'm a criminal justice student still so if anyone sees any issues in my comment please correct me, or add on I'd love to hear it.
@TakaS013
Жыл бұрын
The Karen's were in the wrong, not in the right.
@lkayh
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saying that about the word Karen. Could we change it to a name that isn’t so common, like Prunhilda or something? I mean, I knew a Karen who WAS a Karen, but I know so many others who really hate having their name used this way.
@AxelFoleyDetroitLions
2 жыл бұрын
This is federal. So it will need to be a federal branch of investigations, not local police, to investigate. The courtroom is the only place to argue this after an arrest has been made.
@jacenjustice
2 жыл бұрын
*People of all colors getting killed by the police* Karens: BLUE LIVES MATTER! *Someone getting arrested for trespassing* Karens: You guys are becoming the criminals.
@jeffburdick869
2 жыл бұрын
9:40 I don't take the side of the officers that often. But it appears to me that in this video they're doing a great job of deescalating the situation and she is just batshit crazy.
@LewKat74
2 жыл бұрын
Both of these women are completely ridiculous!!
@ItsMeAnn628
2 жыл бұрын
She is trying to say that the penal code does not give cops the authority to arrest trespassers which is BS. If they have a complaint against the post office they need to make it through the proper federal channels. These officers are local law enforcement not federal. These karen’s have no case and ought to be fined for call 911 falsely so many times!
@dmreagle6811
Жыл бұрын
Technically, although the US Postal Service is a Federal Entity, the post office is not a federal building.
@tinaa8419
2 жыл бұрын
And we just KNOW that the "friend" was asked to leave because of not wanting to wear a MASK.
@darlenedurgan1340
2 жыл бұрын
I've seen this video before 🤦he was arrested and they're saying that the police kidnapped him.
@garyharp7099
2 жыл бұрын
You can do 2 things...one ask nicely to speak to a supervisor... Two get a lawyer and sue... Actually three you can be a Karen till they throw you in jail
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