Same thing happened back in the early 90s on a test run over Gresford Bank. I was a member of the support crew at the time. We took the rod off and knocked the bearing out to use a spacer. Put the rod in the rear of the support coach, and ran from Shrewsbury to Crew on one cylinder. The big end bearing when to the SVR was re metalled , machined overnight, refitted the following morning. Running the Britannia phoenix later in the day without a hitch. Happy memories
@alanmcgunnigle4186
Ай бұрын
I saw Cromwell at Lostock Hall on 11th August 1968. The inference then was that it just happened to be the lucky last Britannia in service. This was just the same scenario as most of the other preserved ex BR locomotives. There was no difference between Britannia and all the other 54 Britannia in BR days. Good maintenance and attention to detail keeps the problems to a minimum.
@abloogywoogywoo
Ай бұрын
We all have aching joints somedays. Hoping she bounces back, she's a beautiful engine with a full rack of MK1 coaches.
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
She’s being taken back to Crewe on Monday by a diesel to be repaired, hopefully she will be back out again soon! 👍
@21C192
Ай бұрын
All bar the last vehicle, which appears to be a Mk2D
@Barbarapape
Ай бұрын
What a shame.lets hope Britannia is ruling the rails again soon. Thanks for keeping us informed. Hope you are keeping safe and well.
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Yes, a big shame especially since it had only recently been repaired from its previous failure last year, it is being rescued on Monday and taken back to Crewe for repair, thanks for the comment!
@Barbarapape
Ай бұрын
@@TRAlNVlDEOS Something must have failed that should have been replaced during the repairs. It is very easy to miss items that look good on the outside, but hot steam pressure will find the smallest of defects.
@chrisrand5185
Ай бұрын
'We'll fix it with some newspaper and a leather bootlace'
@GarethJonesPilipala
Ай бұрын
That was James the Red Engine!
@mikeuk4130
Ай бұрын
Just look at and listen to that Spoon! They were the Big Brushes that Swept Clean! They had their problems but, even after de-rating, they still ruled the rails for many, many years.
@robertwilloughby8050
Ай бұрын
TBH, they were BETTER after de-rating. But those fire trap bogies and an engine that would throw a fit if you even LOOKED at the engine settings.... Yeah. It was usually very good, but when a Brush was bad, it was horrible!😅
@petersmith4455
Ай бұрын
hi, great video, i wonder whats wrong with the confounded thing, love the cl 47 in green, thats what i remember back in the day.
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Thank you, I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
@davidclarke8537
Ай бұрын
Just found your channel very good info will start watch back catalogue👍
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Thank you, I’m glad you enjoy them!
@paulredding5864
Ай бұрын
TBH Class 47 in two-tone green with small yellow panels looks just as good IMHO
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
I agree! 👍
@ricbchirop4355
Ай бұрын
The 47 sounds and lööks far better
@Jack_Warner
Ай бұрын
It would be if they'd bothered to get the colours right.
@paulkandi
Ай бұрын
47 was a design icon and still is...60 years later.❤❤
@cathybrind2381
Ай бұрын
Call it a 47 if you like. As far as I'm concerned it's a Brush Type 4, one of the first classes where the BR design panel was involved which is why it looks so good. Unfortunately they then went all corporate, sloshed blue and yellow paint everywhere and all but ruined its looks, along with so much else on BR.
@juliephillips7374
Ай бұрын
What an eventful day at the Station. Great shots at Upperby junction. 😊
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@juliephillips7374
Ай бұрын
@@TRAlNVlDEOS, I know where we will be going to film in the morning 😊
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
@@juliephillips7374 😂 yes, it is is due to be rescued on Monday night.
@AndreiTupolev
Ай бұрын
Probably just a bearing running hot. Probably just purely precautionary
@workinghardusa
Ай бұрын
Great video, well done!
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@bingbong7316
Ай бұрын
I don't know how many classes used the idea, but Bullied pacifics used to have garlic capsules in the middle big-end bearing, later changed for aniseed, which would pop and get whiffy if everything was too hot. If it was a hot bearing on Britannia, how did they become aware?
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
I’m not sure but they knew about it in the station because they kept looking at it while it was sat there.
@nounoufriend1442
Ай бұрын
Reckon it had a bit of a knock when coming back onto platform at 4:04 on video
@bingbong7316
Ай бұрын
@@nounoufriend1442 That's the signature sound of "Riddles' Rubbish" lol. I once said that to Charlie Pyne when 75027 had it's first outing on the Bluebell. Little did I or anyone else know at the time that he was the anonymous donor - no wonder he looked crestfallen. Sorry Charlie :-(
@paulcaswell2813
Ай бұрын
The capsules were started by Gresley on the A4s - mostly due to the ultra high-speed running down Stoke.
@wendycooper4933
Ай бұрын
Did they ever use sulphur in bearings? Same sorta thing when they ran hot.
@paulkandi
Ай бұрын
Love the 47...looks great..poor old kettle...😅😅
@robertlees7528
Ай бұрын
Two tone green brush does the business I loved the brits Hereward the wake was my favourite spent most of 67 at kingmoor depot! Halcyon days indeed
@jamesarkell5419
17 сағат бұрын
With a hole in the boiler where a coupling rod had gone into it.
@Pjhumpy
Ай бұрын
Wow look at the black smoke from 47805 as it sets off.
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Yeah! 👌
@robertcharlessceats3647
Ай бұрын
Shame about Britannia but you can always rely on Class 47 Brush 4 to get out of jail. It's the best diesel the British rail system ever had ! Thanks for including the alternative 47805 serial number
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Yes it is a shame about Britannia, but glad you enjoyed the video! 👍
@wexfordwaster7423
Ай бұрын
The armchair engineers are really out in force today with their comments…
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
To be fair some of it is based off what the Crew told people when in Carlisle station
@t20turnaround49
Ай бұрын
@@TRAlNVlDEOSThe Crewe?
@James_Rivett
Ай бұрын
@@t20turnaround49 The Crew from Crewe? lol
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
@@t20turnaround49 I meant crew, for some reason it autocorrects to Crewe for me 😂
@gamerfan8445
Ай бұрын
What with the Standard 7 with breaking down?
@gwrydd
Ай бұрын
the signaller mustve been sick of dealing with that in and out by the time it was over
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Haha yes! 😂
@leonblittle226
Ай бұрын
He must be the same guy who sent to a position that wasn't even empty for it - not exactly on the ball
@legoisthebest001SCR
Ай бұрын
Here we go again
@Deepthought-42
7 сағат бұрын
As the Black Knight would say “‘tis but a scratch!” Hope it gets fixed soon 👍❤️
@Stubwood_on_YT
Ай бұрын
The crew must have lost their bearings
@trainskitsetc
Ай бұрын
Things will go wrong now and then. 😊
@keithg1xfl
Ай бұрын
It's the wrong Way Round ! Britannia is Supposed to tow the Broken Down Diesel !
@EllieMaes-Grandad
Ай бұрын
Always better pix when a tripod is used . . .
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
I agree with you except a lot of these wouldn’t have been possible with a tripod and it is annoying to carry around to be honest, thanks for the comment! 👍
@rodhewson
Ай бұрын
@@TRAlNVlDEOSHave you considered using a monopod. Lighter and much less bulky but would certainly help with stability.
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
@@rodhewson Il look into it 👍
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
Ай бұрын
I can’t believe it’s broken down again
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Yes it’s a shame, hopefully it will be back out again soon! 👍
@gaius_enceladus
Ай бұрын
At least it's mechanical - not electronic - so it shouldn't be too difficult to repair! That's the great thing about mechanical machines, whether it's a steam engine or a Stirling engine. As long as you have a few screwdrivers and spanners (wrenches) then you're in business as far as repairs go!
@Gary-cvr23
Ай бұрын
Not again!
@spankflaps1365
Ай бұрын
I notice they have removed the RH motion. The last time it failed at Hellifield, the RH side cross-head had cracked. The fault could be related.
@DeafIaint
Ай бұрын
Well well well
@nounoufriend1442
Ай бұрын
Sounds like like a knock/clunk from motion when it came on to platform at 4:04 on the video , hopefully just needs re metaling and cranks ok
@ook2763
Ай бұрын
The Britannia-crew should have adjusted the lights on the frontside before steaming back into the station. Now she steamed back with red lights on the frontside!
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
True but it was on a mainline and it would have needed it get out of the way as quickly as possible because they can be fined a lot for stopping on it (I have heard £150 per minute quoted by people before), thanks for the comment! 👍
@TheAmateurBasher1984
Ай бұрын
Not the first time they've had to take her rods off in mainline service...
@abloogywoogywoo
Ай бұрын
I wonder if they are not machining it properly?
@TheAmateurBasher1984
Ай бұрын
@@abloogywoogywoo Beats me...
@davidbailey533
Ай бұрын
Can underrstand why they have diesel on back in these circumstances
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Yes it also helps a lot with shunting and heating the coaches! 👍
@sergeantgtagrinder9710
Ай бұрын
Reminds me of 46203 in 1997 but she never steamed again after that
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Thats a shame, hopefully the outcome is more positive for Britannia! 👍🤞
@haystax6289
19 күн бұрын
State of the railway infrastructure 😢
@brianwillson9567
Ай бұрын
Britannia's preservation history shows why Cromwell was chosen over her for the national collection. But, for the train itself, isn't a Brush 4 impressive 'historic traction'.
@alantunbridge8919
Ай бұрын
I recall 70000 being rejected as a result of severe front end damage,later fixed by the SVR. 70013 was automatically pencilled in for the National Collection as it was the last steam locomotive overhauled at Crewe Works.
@brianwillson9567
Ай бұрын
@alantunbridge8919 exactly. Just worked on, and in best condition. But don't forget britannia's boiler and other problems in preservation. That said total kudos for every person and organisation caring for 70000 over the years. But, at the end of the day, being the FIRST BR standard was surely a stronger reason for preservation than being the last loco repaired at Crewe. Preserve the last loco repaired at Derby, Swindon, Gorton, even Melton Constable works etc etc etc???
@James_Rivett
Ай бұрын
@@alantunbridge8919 I always was told 70013 was picked over 70000 because the latter being being the prototype had several differences to the standard class 7 that followed, and 70013 was not only a totally standard class 7, she was also the last of her class in service.
@user-cw9qn1nb2n
Ай бұрын
Curious that Oliver Cromwell has gone down in British history as one of the most hated Rulers of all time (a title that he probably doesn't deserve), and yet of all of the Britannias that could have been chosen, this one, with that name, was picked to be the last Pacific ever to be overhauled by British Railways. Just saying.
@James_Rivett
Ай бұрын
@@user-cw9qn1nb2n A title I think he did deserve. A title I don't think he deserves is the father of the democratic parliment, after all, when parliament went against him, he dissolved parliament and ruled as a dictator, who wanted his else surviving son to succeed him as Dictator of Commonwealth of Great Britain. The Democratic parliment we know today wasn't formulated until the 19th century. When you look at what he did to the Irish, and to the Catholics (and anyone else who refused the puritanical method of religion), you could be forgiven for feeling he was a bloodthirsty butcher. Probably named because the committee who named the loco only understood the watered down fictional history from schoolbooks, after all, my generation was always taught that Cromwell got rid of a tyrant king, and introduced democracy to the UK, which is actually all rubbish. His disagreed with the King, and who was far from reliable or working for the interests of his people, but Cromwell was only interested in what he could gain, and not interested in the greater good, and cared little for democracy when it went against his wishes.
@user-tt4sx5ve1q
Ай бұрын
Westcountry there as well. nice
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Yes! 👍
@jameswright3798
Ай бұрын
Battle of britian, it's tangmere named after an raf base
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
@@jameswright3798 Yes, I didn’t include it in this video much because I thought it was getting a bit long so I added it to my previous video just incase you wanted to see more of it 👍
@jonathanstangroom8489
Ай бұрын
Tangmere is a Battle of Britain class locomotive ,Tangmere was one of the main RAF Stations covering the London and Kent Areas .
@tangerinedream7211
Ай бұрын
Brittanias had a lot of problems when new, the wheels were going around faster than the axles 😬
@James_Rivett
Ай бұрын
even more so after Bill Harvey adjusted the valve timing to get more power out of them. Several were worked up to Doncaster for attention, who replaced the way the wheels were fixed to the axles with that of a LNER pattern.
@WhisperingWiltshire
Ай бұрын
Britannia Strikes Again!
@teamtrains
Ай бұрын
😢 where did it break down
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
In Carlisle Upperby it is being rescued on Monday, thanks for the comment! 👍
@stevie8763
Ай бұрын
@@TRAlNVlDEOS Appeared to be a hot bearing on the right side coupling rods according to where the attention was.
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
@@stevie8763 Thanks for the info! 👍
@21C192
Ай бұрын
It didn't break down anywhere as such. It was stopped because the problem with the bearing that they had identified, meant that if allowed to continue, it almost certainly would have done somewhere (probably very inconvenient, and causing delays to following services)) on the return trip........
@stevie8763
Ай бұрын
@@21C192 Yes we know, this was noted in replies some days ago. You have to be quick with responces on this channel, photons replicate faster than the speed of light.😁
@DaveInBridport
Ай бұрын
47 needs headlcodes restored
@acersalman8258
Ай бұрын
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@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@harrytodhunter5078
Ай бұрын
Classic Britannia!
@theotherside8258
Ай бұрын
kind of symbolic of the real Brittania
@chrisstaylor8377
Ай бұрын
Why they normaly tow. Diesel
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Hi, sorry I’m not quite sure what you mean?
@petergardner2334
Ай бұрын
its just one of those things it happen now and then
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Yes it is sadly 👍
@thetrainguy4797
Ай бұрын
wonder why she broke down maybe she was running hot?
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Yea that is a possibility 👍
@ungurdani8346
15 күн бұрын
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@TRAlNVlDEOS
15 күн бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@ragarse3
Ай бұрын
My dream train, such power and presence. Do hope it is a minor fix.
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Yes hopefully! 🤞
@railfreightdrivergallagherGBRf
Ай бұрын
Didn't actually break down!! Was failed as a precautionary measure to avoid total failure and damage. JG.
@TRAlNVlDEOS
Ай бұрын
Okay sorry my mistake! 👍
@timbarnes2259
Ай бұрын
Yes, these old bearings need oil refills every trip.. Many a steamer has failed due to overheating.. Wonder if the same happened when all rail travel was by steam..?
@danielbliss1988
Ай бұрын
I'm assuming that was part of the job of the fire raiser. Getting a steamer started takes several hours, much of it waiting for the fire to really get going, so this would be a logical time for minor service. As slowly as possible is the answer in terms of stress on the metal; If you have 24 hours to raise a fire, great; eight will do; shorter than that might be rather stressful as I understand. One relatively harmless way of shortening the startup time is to charge the boiler with pre-heated water. The North Shore Scenic Railroad, a preserved railway covering the roughly 25 miles from Duluth to Two Harbors, Minnesota in the US, has the benefit of a city council-run steam plant right next to the Duluth train station -- the early 1930s plant which was recently converted from coal to biomass and from open-ended steam heat to hot water on a closed recirculating loop provides hot water and heat to around 160 buildings around the city centre ranging from city hall and county hall to hospitals and high-rise offices, and also the NSSR's steam engines.
@tacfoley4443
Ай бұрын
🤥
@stevecutts5450
Ай бұрын
Itd be bad enough being on a kettle tour but unbelievably rancid to be rescued by a spoon😂
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