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@boobopish
11 ай бұрын
I travelled the new B.A biz class this year, it was amazing, and the crew were brilliant. The new biz class for B.A is a game changer. ❤
@Travelsbydreamer
11 ай бұрын
Sure is! Long may it continue to roll out at pace across the fleet!
@christopheradderley6902
7 ай бұрын
Yeah - it’s considerably better.
@mileymc101
Жыл бұрын
The "Ying Yang" business seats from BA are shocking. One of the worst in the industry. Your the first person I've heard with anything good to say about them. Thankfully they will be phased out across all 787's and A380's over the next 24 month. I'd happily pay more for the new club suite on their 777 or A350.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Whilst dated, this design of seat laid the way for modern business class as we know it. The design today allows for complete privacy in the window seats and the avoidance of needing to put your legs down a tunnel when sleeping. Those who actually travel regularly with BA J are split roughly 50/50. Im broadly with the new club suite design, despite the catalogue of cheap plastics deployed as part of its makeup.
@mileymc101
Жыл бұрын
@Travelsbydreamer When paying premium prices and expecting a premium product. You don't expect to be climbing over a fellow passenger to get out while they are sleeping. Or visa versa, having your neighbour climb over you. There is always the option to basically sleep in the aise with the non window seats. Or the dreaded middle coffin seat. Can't think of any other business club in the world that has such a terrible flaw. It was a bad idea when first launched 20 years ago, even more ridiculous in 2023.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
@@mileymc101 Would agree with a lot of that. That said, a surprising amount of business class designs still see 2-3-2 even on the likes of emirates. Until the new club suite is rolled out it for sure is well worth making sure to book your club world seat well in advance to avoid the options you mentioned…
@journeyingjohn3275
11 ай бұрын
@@mileymc101 I believe it was almost 30 years ago.... Whilst they've cosmetically updated the design (& densified from the original) the bottom line is in todays world (And for the past decade unfettered aisle access has been the norm. The Collins superdiamond seat (with the BA "door") was being used by competitors 9years before BA started to deploy it and today it's still a gamble as to which seat type you'll actually fly on.
@zeddeka
5 ай бұрын
@@TravelsbydreamerI'm not sure what "laying the way" for modern business class seats had anything to do with it. The wright brothers "laid the way" for modern flight, but nobody wants to fly in a bi plane anymore. The seats are atrociously dated. There's absolutely no defence for it.
@adammadulski3304
Жыл бұрын
Epic? Really? To me that business class layout felt cramped and claustrophobic and I really didn't like it. Unlike BA's new business class on their Airbus A350 which is outstanding. I hope they will refurbish all their long haul planes.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
For me, it really does depend where you sit. An aisle seat or one in the middle would feel far less special. The descriptor however was testimony to the flight overall. As mentioned in the review, BA are currently rolling out the new club suite to all aircraft, it’s not however without its critiques, especially in the areas of sleep and travelling as couples. Overall however, I’m in your camp, the new seat is a big leap forward
@adammadulski3304
Жыл бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer I flew on one of their Boeings 777-200ER before pandemic and I had a window seat - it didn't help to get rid of that claustrophobic feeling at all. although I must say that the crew and the service during that fly were very good. I'm glad you enjoyed your flight
@maxthelab8457
Жыл бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer It took long enough for BA to bite the bullet and embark on upgrading Club World.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
@@maxthelab8457 Yeah for sure, the club suite was 5-7 years too late really but, I do feel they’ve turned a corner and at the current rate, we should see a very different airline in a few years time…
@devindrabalkaran3159
Жыл бұрын
I’ve flown a number of times in Club World on BA’s 789 to Dubai, not my fave. Prefer the A350 new CW suites or the 777 / A380 as they feel a bit roomier.
@brianparsleyspeaker
6 ай бұрын
Your video is well done and professional. I've flown that product multiple times and it sucks. The seats are terrible (unless you know the person staring back at you) and very narrow seats. Their new product on the 777 is incredible though. The 787 and 380 business class should be called, "at least it's not economy" they really need to step their product.
@Travelsbydreamer
6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! It’s for sure an ageing design but I’ve long been a fan of it, nostalgia maybe… I’ve recently reviewed their newer seat aboard their 777 over to Tokyo, hope that one will be of interest also!
@mohammedaneeskhan790
3 ай бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer Hi I am travelling on on a 787-9 in June, do you know if it will have an updated club suite or the older one?
@Travelsbydreamer
3 ай бұрын
@@mohammedaneeskhan790 older one, I’m pretty certain. They’ve started the refits now on the 787-8’s however these were older hence have gone first. I’m also travelling on the same aircraft next month most likely. For sure not expecting the newer cabin sadly
@mohammedaneeskhan790
2 ай бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer Thank you for your response, which seats would you recommended booking? Check-in opens in 12 hours! Don't like the idea of someone stepping over me while sleeping.
@mohammedaneeskhan790
2 ай бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer I have row 10 to 13 to choose from? Row 6 and 7 are fully booked.
@immikhanUK
Жыл бұрын
The forced smile at the end of every to the camera segment! 😁
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
It’s not forced when you’re flying in such comfort 😉
@bluecardholder
10 ай бұрын
I hate those seats especially on overnight flights when you need to get up for the bathroom and have to try and squeeze out of the seat in a forward motion and trying to find place for the blankets etc, and then having to clamber over the legs of a stranger, and the reverse after you've done your business. Not a good experience after you have experienced Singapore or Emirates seats (A380).
@Travelsbydreamer
10 ай бұрын
Pros and cons, I quite like not having to pop your feat down a tunnel to sleep but holistically, they’re a generation behind for sure…
@kerriesharpe5402
Жыл бұрын
So nice to see a good review of a BA flight , they seem to get a bashing lately by practically everyone......their crew are great, professional and friendly. I think their new cabins are better yes, but it will be rolled out across all remaining aircraft in their fleet and hopefully stop all the slagging off they get.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, they’ve had a rough time of it recently and I’m not sure it’s totally deserved. They’re for sure an airline on the up so good to recognise that ✈️
@kerriesharpe5402
Жыл бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer thankyou, I am flying with them next week to Washington DC on their A380 in premium economy and I can't wait. Maybe you could review this cabin at some point in the future 🤔
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
@@kerriesharpe5402 sounds amazing, enjoy! Lots of premium economy on the channel, one especially recent, enjoy!
@kerriesharpe5402
Жыл бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer thankyou!!, I'll have a look then.
@wengelder9256
11 ай бұрын
Well based on my business class experience, the bashing is very deserved . At these seats seem not much better . The food is probably the same … boring
@r12004rewy
Жыл бұрын
Certainly looks as though you had a great flight with BA on this occasion unfortunately BA have a awfully long way to go to restore their reputation but it looks as though they are trying, they need to refit business cabins as a matter of urgency as this is where the 'big bucks' come from.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Was for sure a very decent experience. I think you’re right sadly, they’ve drifted an awfully long way in recent years and you can see from many of the comments how switched off people are with them. The retrofit programme does seem to be rolling along nicely with the A380’s next in line. Let’s see…
@GOMAROMA
11 ай бұрын
No comparison to Middle Eastern airlines business class! Add that cancellations and delays are frequent, I’m finished using that mob.
@Travelsbydreamer
11 ай бұрын
ME3 well ahead much of the time for sure.
@narinthip3058
Жыл бұрын
Nice review for a more recent flight on this dated aircraft! I have never had bad experiences with BA either on business or premium eco. Their services were fine and the foods were usually ok. Your footage seems like their foods appear to be better than what I remembered. My last long haul in their business was from Chennai to LHR in 2019. I actually never have paid for full price for BA business product but often got free upgrade due to my OWE status. Many times they also oversold their premium eco tickets, I got luck before of it. Anyhow, my issue with BA is about their ground services in LHR at terminal 3 security check after Covid! I had horrible time going through last year and even more recently last month. I couldn't believe they are still not better after a year. Luckily, when I went through last month, the line was really short but it still took a bit mover 30mins to go through!!!
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I think your comments sum up BA fairly well just now in that they’re fairly hit or miss. On this occasion I for sure lucked out on this occasion but for sure have seen the other side of the operation in recent weeks. The upgrades are lovely also ✈️
@Edgetravelguy
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video-
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@mattleeder1
9 ай бұрын
"The quality of the bedding" ... lol, I flew BA Club World recently and my bedding has multiple holes in it
@Travelsbydreamer
9 ай бұрын
Strange to hear, it’s all white company and is some of the best in the industry.
@mattleeder1
9 ай бұрын
@Travelsbydreamer BA just re-uses it too much and washes it over and over again and never replaces... I took a pic, but can't upload here
@OnThaMove
Жыл бұрын
Your voice and style made this one of one of the best videos I’ve seen in a long time. Very professional work.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@ukdavepianoman
11 ай бұрын
Very good video - calm and informative delivery :) The only good thing i can say about these awful Ying Yang seats is they are better than being in Economy/Premium Economy (although not at the price). Climbing over people, sockets in awkward places, pathetic TV screen, protocol of dividing screen. I have flown the newer BA Club World config and it was infintely superior - the quicker BA refit their planes, the better. Quality of food seems to have improved a lot. The BA FAs are always superb - helpful, friendly. I think BA are turning the corner and I now fly much more with them - the loyalty programme is good too.
@Travelsbydreamer
11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Would agree with all of that I think, a huge step up from the economy cabins but they can be incredibly expensive at times. A380’s up next on the refit programme which no doubt people will really love. Let’s hope they continue this current improvement trend 😃
@billc6762
Жыл бұрын
Your background music is covering your voice
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, new editor, few sound balancing issues in this one
@twotanks6427
Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your trip reports, but your speaking in public areas is drowned by the background music.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Few sound balancing issues on this one, new editor on the go, should get it sorted for the next one ✈️
@mattleeder1
9 ай бұрын
That shower facility looks like a prison shower in Sweden or something.
@Travelsbydreamer
9 ай бұрын
Agreed, they need a refresh but still great to jump in quick before a long flight
@maxthelab8457
Жыл бұрын
Now that the deplorable dumpy low class Hatchet Man Cruz has been culled, hopefully, BA can start to recover and morph back into the fabulous flying experience it once was. Cruz seemed to have a personal grudge against BA, determined to run it into the ground to the point where it was no better than flying Vueling on a bad day, and that was in First. The only area where it seems Cruz took his eye off the ball was the Concorde Lounge, which remained and has always been outstanding.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Severe words, but I can’t disagree with any of them. Here’s to a fantastic future for BA under new management!
@maxthelab8457
Жыл бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer Lets' hope so - just to give you a laugh, I was in Club World on one trip ( DXB - LHR ) and the starter was a 'prawn party' thing and BA actually managed to find someone in catering who had the craft to be able to SLICE prawns in half LONGWAYS so when they were placed on the dish it looked like you had 6 prawns but in reality, you had 3! How penny-pinching could Cruz get I thought?
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
@@maxthelab8457 hahaha oh dear 🤦♂️
@maxthelab8457
Жыл бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer Another laugh was a Club Europe flight back from Krakow to LHR where BA had forgot to load any catering at all. I had 3 bags of crisps and some nuts I had lifted from the lounge and the crew, myself and the other 3 people in club had a great laugh sharing it out. Apparently the crew were adjacent to feinting from hunger.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
@@maxthelab8457 good grief, reminds me of the recent KFC story recently and that was on a long haul 🤦♂️
@janedr6400
Жыл бұрын
Hi. Did you travel Business class back to London? I'm looking to upgrade one way Business Class and the other premium, but not sure which way round? I was thinking Premium out and Business back to London so I can sleep. Would really appreciate your views.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
On this occasion it was the business class on the way out. For me it depends on the timings a little as to what’s best overnight vs daytime. Both have their pros and cons. When sleeping, the business does work really well whereas PE is generally fine for day time flights. Enjoy! ✈️
@janedr6400
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Thank you so much for the speedy reply. I just need to get myself booked in now. @@Travelsbydreamer
@Serena_9
Жыл бұрын
I’m a one world loyalty and have flown with many one world airlines. I must say even the new BA club suite still not even close to as good as Qatar Q-Suite. I ‘d rather choose to stop over in Doha for transit with QR, instead of fly direct from LHR with with BA if I had a choice.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think that’s fair, Qatar Airways are head and shoulders ahead, especially on the service front. Expecting the new Q suite from them fairly soon which should be suitably epic! I’m a big fan of flying with them when going long haul east as you tend to get more tier points also ✈️
@leebloketube
Жыл бұрын
I can’t hear you. The music is way too loud
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
New editor on this one, teething issues sadly
@rotty66
11 ай бұрын
Not fan of those seats at all, the climbing over peoples legs or them climbing over yours when anyone wants to get out is terrible, yet to be on one where the footrest part of the bed hasn't collapsed at least once (usually many more), also the lounge is dirty and overcrowded, hopefully get to try the new seats soon though my next flight still lists as a 787
@Travelsbydreamer
11 ай бұрын
They’re for sure controversial and I think many will be pleased when they’re completely phased out. Do you know which 787 model you have? Only the 787-10 as I understand right now has the new club suite…
@rotty66
11 ай бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer 787-9 unfortunately LHR-HKG and return, the seat plan still shows old layout
@Travelsbydreamer
11 ай бұрын
@@rotty66 damn, hope that changes in time for your flight!
@robertcampbell8027
11 ай бұрын
We’re scheduled to fly BA Business class San Diego-London in December. The confirmation shows the plane will be an Airbus 350. Will this be the seating arrangement we can expect?
@Travelsbydreamer
11 ай бұрын
Sounds like a great trip! With it being the A350 however, it’ll be the newer Club Suites layout which is a 1-2-1. I did a video last year on what you can expect, all be it on the 777 (but seating just the same) if you’re keen to check out what it’ll be like 👍
@Travelsbydreamer
11 ай бұрын
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@robertcampbell8027
11 ай бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer Thanks for the heads-up. I watched the video you recommended. The seating looks great. Our daughter moved to London four years ago. We’ve made this trip twice before, but in Premium Economy. We looking forward to seeing her and to enjoying BA’s Business Class. Cheers
@Travelsbydreamer
11 ай бұрын
@@robertcampbell8027 Glad it was useful, have an amazing trip!
@Sanznachito
Жыл бұрын
An Outstanding flight experience, from check in to landing. Amazing quality of food. I too have flown this bed a couple of times in the past and always have slept well. Thanks for sharing so well put together and a testimaent to how good and reliable BA is. 👍
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks also ✈️
@zeddeka
5 ай бұрын
Mate, if you think "BA is good and reliable" then I have a bridge to sell you. They're light years behind the competition these days, and Skytrax has said they may downgrade them to a 3 star airline because of the problems in their service.
@o.c.g.m9426
Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind you cant satisfy everyone & theres plenty of airsnobs in the comment section who like flying their private jet to mars better 😂. I love BA Business & 1st class. Ive flown ying & yang & business suite
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Haha amen to this ✈️
@papi8659
Жыл бұрын
Such a shockingly bad seat - surprised anyone would pay for it
@susan838
7 ай бұрын
I could not agree more as we flew this from London to Johannesburg in December. Very disappointing and does not compare with their 1-2-1 layout. I am very glad to hear this is being eliminated over the next year or so.
@ProjectEditzzz
7 ай бұрын
I’m going on BA Business to London in July, will the seats be better by then? I also didn’t think they were too bad
@susan838
7 ай бұрын
If you are in the 1-2-1 configuration it will be fine. Just look at your reservation.
@christopheradderley6902
7 ай бұрын
@@ProjectEditzzzit shows on your seat selection. 1 2 1 is significantly larger… I think 40%…
@princessafricana2090
8 ай бұрын
Does the seat at the window take off backwards
@Travelsbydreamer
8 ай бұрын
Yes indeed. Little bit odd but beyond the takeoff you never really notice ☺️
@princessafricana2090
8 ай бұрын
@@TravelsbydreamerThank you for the reply . Oh wow that’s weird I’m better off at the aisle because I don’t wanna feel sick haha. Also can you make the seat into a bed on the aisle side or it’s just the window ?
@Travelsbydreamer
8 ай бұрын
@@princessafricana2090 it’s a little different but it’s generally ok. Aisle seat operates the same as the window so you still get the lie flat bed which is great. Privacy is significantly down however direct aisle access makes it easier for bathroom trips etc. Enjoy!
@VishnuPalaniappan
2 ай бұрын
Do you live in uk 🇬🇧
@samhorsley720
Жыл бұрын
This product is terrible and everyone knows it
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
A surprising number of the EC members actually prefer it…
@samhorsley720
Жыл бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer you have a great vlog but I think you and the few others form a very small minority here. It's so unbelievably dated - Club Suite on the other hand is fantastic!
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
@@samhorsley720 thanks very much. To be clear, I’m in the club suite camp however, if you get the seat choice right the old design really isn’t that bad. Especially on the upper deck of the 380 etc. I put out a comparison video some time ago and was shocked at the comments following how much love there was for the old design…
@zeddeka
5 ай бұрын
All I can say after watching this video is that I'm so glad I haven't flown with BA recently. Looks absolutely terrible. Its shocking how far they've fallen behind other airlines. Perhaps no surprise that Skytrax said recently that they may downgrade BA to a 3 star airline unless substantial improvements are made. To quote Skytrax: "British Airways is Certified as a 4-Star Airline for its airport and onboard product and staff service. With some product and service now at 3-Star Rating levels, the BA rating for 2024 is under review. “British Airways is still installing new Club World seats but many aircraft still have the older, poorer seat. First class service and product fails to match most airlines in this category. For short-haul, British Airways is at a low-cost standard in Economy, and Club Europe standards are very haphazard. Despite claims about trying to return to it’s former premium days, service standards are poor and the product is quite cheap.”
@Travelsbydreamer
5 ай бұрын
A fair insight I think. That said, I wouldn’t be so quick to judge the outgoing seat. Yes, it’s old but if you take it from those who regularly fly it in BA forums etc the truth is quite different from the bravado you see online. As for the skytrax rating, as an agency who recently had Lufthansa at a 5* carrier, I’d take their work with a pinch of salt…
@TonyHammer61
9 ай бұрын
The main downside of BA Clubworld v First Class is the length of the seat when set up as a bed. If you are over 6ft you cannot lie flat. I am 6ft 3ins so cannot lie flat. Disappointing
@Travelsbydreamer
9 ай бұрын
Yeah that really sucks for taller folk however, will be the case with most business class seats, they just lack that critical last few inches (this is starting to sound awful 😂), but alas very much the case and you’re only really going to get them in F…
@llisagomez5706
Жыл бұрын
To the people making the videos, no one gives a hoot about the food. They wanna know about the roominess. Do the seats lay back etc
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Would agree space is important but do yourself a favour and check out my first BA premium economy review and see how many people were pleased to have seen the food left out of the review. Food is also key.
@GurvirSingh72521
11 ай бұрын
I prefer the 777 instead of the 787
@Travelsbydreamer
11 ай бұрын
Yeah many of the 777’s have been updated now which is great. I tend to find it a little old and noisy these days mind…
@juliawigger9796
Жыл бұрын
Well at least that appalling wee willie is gone. He tore BA to bits. Hope BA can now recover.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha brutal but largely fair. Cruz’s policies in my view were pretty devastating from a passenger experience point of view. In my experience, they’re for sure on the road to recovery just now…
@malpalmer3269
Жыл бұрын
Seat layout is not great
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
It’s an odd one for sure. There’s some good seats in the cabin but the aisle ones are best avoided. All change in the coming months across the fleet with the club suite being rolled out just now
@malpalmer3269
Жыл бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer really hope they ramp up the delivery of club suite.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
@@malpalmer3269 Yeah, it’s coming. A380 up next, 787 will then follow. Not 100% sure when on that front though…
@malpalmer3269
Жыл бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer what about their 777s are those all done?
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
@@malpalmer3269 Not 100% sure as they have a number operating out of LGW also…
@nickf619
Жыл бұрын
Very disappointing that the food on offer in the BA ‘First’ lounge is the same as Club, people that drive bookings towards BA and become more loyal customers don’t get any better food offerings, poor imho
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
I know Nick, really not good sadly. I thought king and hard last year about stretching to retain gold which was always going to be especially tricky with flying with a variety of airlines now (in part for KZitem) and it was factors like this which really didn’t help their case. It’s ok business lounge fodder but the first lounge was starting to feel more like a posh canteen more and more by the day…
@nickf619
Жыл бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer Yep agreed, very sad, at least give the ability to order some dishes via QR/Staff in the first lounge like during the pandemic. Enjoyed the video, keep them up!
@zj7396
7 ай бұрын
There is nothing epic about the seat layout. Thanks for the review, I will avoid flying this type of fleet from BA
@Travelsbydreamer
7 ай бұрын
You’re very welcome. It’s for sure coming to the end of its time but few business class offerings match it in terms of sleep quality even today. Just reviewed the newer layout on a 14 hour trip, hope that one might be useful also!
@ameerali.ouarda
Жыл бұрын
If I was to go to the lounge in B gates can I walk back to the A gates?
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Really good question. I think that is indeed possible, check out my video of it on my channel, there’s been some great input in the comments from frequent travellers. I hear it’s even had a refit recently also…
@ameerali.ouarda
Жыл бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer Thank you was just curious. Going to Dubai in First Class with BA on the 787 and 380 very excited 😆
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
@@ameerali.ouarda That should be a fab flight! Hopefully you get the slightly updated first with the suite doors. Enjoy! ✈️
@ameerali.ouarda
Жыл бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer Yeah I hope so but either way the 787-9 first is really nice. I might have to sneak to the club kitchen as well 🤣
@adrianhung5806
Жыл бұрын
Yes @ameerali.ouarda you can do that. There’s a walkway below the B gates train platform to allow you to walk to the A gates and C gates.
@KenjiYama68
Жыл бұрын
I am sorry you had to fly the old style business seat. These seats are so behind the other business class products. But you had a good attitude regardless.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
They’re for sure an old design but, in getting one of the better seats, I actually don’t mind the old Club World. Would be a different story in the aisle though or on if the middle seats! 😅
@adriver4471
11 ай бұрын
Qatar do it properly in business class with only 4 seats across BA’s is cramped in comparison with seats facing the wrong way 🤷♀️
@Travelsbydreamer
11 ай бұрын
You’re for sure right, the Qatar layout is fantastic. Remember however, even with their flagship Q suite, half of their seats face backwards also 😅
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
If you enjoyed the video, don’t forget to drop it a like, it really helps the channel! ✈️
@kaising1688
9 ай бұрын
If TRAVELLERS HAVE TRAVELLED ON OTHER ASIAN AIRLINES, THIS BA BUSINESS CLASS DESIGN IS AWFUL! POOR DESIGN AND LAYOUT.
@Travelsbydreamer
9 ай бұрын
It’s showing its age but does depend which Asian carriers, big place.
@appasonata2
Жыл бұрын
Worst thing ever in LHR airport there’s no smoking room😢 so bad idea for connections
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
As a non smoker, I’ve never noticed this but it’s indeed true from what I’ve seen also. More likely a UK wide thing I’d assume as smoking is clamped down on quite heavily here these days…
@journeyingjohn3275
11 ай бұрын
*IF* BA fixed their IT systems, started reliably loading the advertised menu, delivered some functioning customer service channels and operated within CAA consumer protection regulations Then the headline might be correct but the reality is BA have failed to fix their IT, underprovision catering as a matter of policy, have overly densified their cabins eg a350 with insufficient galley space to store the catering and two rows of non reclining seats... let's not get into the absence of functional customer service channels (phone, online and in person) that regularly occur. BA or SpangloQatari Airways at present are simply harvesting cash from a legacy reputation and their inherited slot dominance and are Best Avoided since the competition comes far closer to delivering what they market, is more reliable and actually communicate with their customers.
@Travelsbydreamer
11 ай бұрын
I think the big takeout here is the inconsistency. This was a great business class flight by any reasonable parameter however, I’d agree with a good portion of what you write. They’re so often incredibly far off the mark as I’ve recently suffered. It feels like they’re on the upwards trajectory. As ever, time will tell 👍
@journeyingjohn3275
11 ай бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer Ive heard that they're improving but they already charge as though they reliably deliver a competitive service. I agree that when there aren't any problems BA can be great and the massively exploited front line staff are generally I excellent BUT as long as they're incapable of answering the phone, communicating cancellations or responding post flight in under 3months, I'll continue to avoid wherever possible. It's really simple, the alternatives are better, more reliably delivered and dont depend on insecure 50yr old badly maintained IT systems.
@pooclan1758
9 ай бұрын
Hang on, this is the biz class where you need to climb over people to go to the loo and where the seats are incredibly narrow? Seriously you would enjoy paying 6k for this?
@Travelsbydreamer
9 ай бұрын
Who’s paying 6k…
@pooclan1758
9 ай бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer maybe not you but BA charge that and more for this type of seat. Compare it to most decent carriers nowadays and they are miles behind
@Travelsbydreamer
9 ай бұрын
@@pooclan1758 fair point, in extremes some would no doubt pay it. It’s for sure behind the times and well on the phase out just now. For its time, a fantastic way to fly and even today, if you can bag a window seat it’s not at all bad.
@Ipuffyy
7 ай бұрын
I dont know how you can speak so proudly of BA. That is the worst business-class product in the sky today. Yes, I have flown them many times. I just recently did a business class at Gatwick-Schiphol.
@Travelsbydreamer
7 ай бұрын
This was a really good experience so credit where credits due. It’s not class leading just now but it’s a long way from worst in the world…
@iriding64
2 ай бұрын
I just flew this cabin and hated it. No where at all to put anything crawling over people awful
@Travelsbydreamer
2 ай бұрын
It’s not everyone’s favourite for sure. Some do really like it however. Won’t be around too much longer, BA working through the 787’s now refit with then it’ll just be the 380’s and the Gatwick fleet left with the older style.
@charlieb2903
11 ай бұрын
Whoever was responsible for this truly appalling seat design should be made to travel in them every day for a year. Just dreadful.
@Travelsbydreamer
11 ай бұрын
As ironic as it sounds saying this in 2023 (as it really should’ve been replaced 4-5 years ago) however, when this launched in the early 2000’s it was the most innovative seat in the world as it brought lie flat beds to business class and paved the way for where the class now is globally today. So ironically, whilst it should’ve been phased out years ago, the initial design was fantastic for its age…
@Retiredtraveler1961
Жыл бұрын
You are way too generous with that product. Compared to Korean airways or French airways. British airways lacks terribly behind. Specifically that ottoman peace is flimsy and often breaks. The attitude of the sky waitresses is often snooty and condescending. British Airways has a long way to go to be up in Class with Delta Korean or other high-end products.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
I think with club world, it’s indeed a way behind, it was after all a seat designed a very long time ago. Haven’t flown delta or Air France long haul however that will change in the coming weeks. That said, 10 or so other carriers would naturally come to mind as being ahead of BA before I’d think of any of those guys but let’s see. Agree, crew can be up and down, on this flight however, they were fantastic!
@framinash
10 ай бұрын
Worst business class I've ever flown. Emirates economy has bigger TV screen than this business class. There NO room to keep anything you have. The drawer they have is located so that you won't be able to reach when the seat is extended / flat. There NO privacy (except if you are in a window seat - which you will need to jump over your neighbor's feet to get out). STAY AWAY FROM THIS BUSINESS CLASS!
@chalayan
10 ай бұрын
The seat designs are horrible. One with the window has to climb over the aisle seat passenger to get back to the seat and imagine one has to go to the lavatory often and there is not enoigh room to even put your personal belongings when it is coverted to a bed.
@Travelsbydreamer
10 ай бұрын
In the modern 1-2-1 business layouts they’re behind the times but for a 2-3-2 it actually works much better than many other airlines with similar configs. Storage a major issue however nicely placated on the 380 and 747 upper decks
@chalayan
10 ай бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer nah, I prefer 1-2-1 configuration. The space is too tight and looks like in a coffin. Business class and above are a luxury but this doesn't apply.
@Travelsbydreamer
10 ай бұрын
@@chalayan no sorry, I think everyone is a fan of the 1-2-1 including myself but point was, as an older design it’s not that bad. It’ll soon be phased out across the fleet with the excellent club suites as the replacement thankfully
@chalayan
10 ай бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer yes 1-2-1 is a much better configuration. Why would I want a stranger sitting opposite me and watching him/her unless he/she is sooo good looking haha.
@wengelder9256
11 ай бұрын
Looks as bad as the previous business class
@Travelsbydreamer
11 ай бұрын
This is the previous 👍
@martingreen331
2 ай бұрын
BA is a truly dreadful airline The planes are old and tired and the lounges at Heathrow are overcrowded and tatty and the staff are really rude. Oh, and they have a habit of trying to downgrade you from business class when you bought the ticket a few weeks before your departure and they’re still selling the seat on their website was there telling you there’s no availability.
@Travelsbydreamer
2 ай бұрын
Sounds like you’ve had some rough experiences with them. Would second you all the way on the Heathrow lounge density, it’s getting pretty bonkers. Status let’s me in free of charge but tbh, if I was laying out say £5,000 for a business return to the states etc and stepped into one of the lounges, I’d be pretty dismissed just now. Safe travels in the future ✈️
@alessandropappalardo9801
9 ай бұрын
This cabin configuration is plain and simple terrible.
@Travelsbydreamer
9 ай бұрын
It’s controversial but I’m in the camp of not minding it tooooo much. Refresh across the fleet welll underway now however
@MagicWok
7 ай бұрын
Unless flying because you have to for work, as they pay for it, I don't understand why anyone pays money for this product still. Truly awful layout, tired and dated and typically at best average service levels.
@Travelsbydreamer
7 ай бұрын
Depends if flying easy vs west for many
@cubs6583
9 ай бұрын
hate hate the business class layout and would never pay for it, , looks awful and outdated
@Travelsbydreamer
9 ай бұрын
How do you find the new design?
@andbrads
Жыл бұрын
“EPIC”?! 😂 No direct aisle access, jumping over someone else in the night, food that is not plated, knackered lounges with less appeal than the average Costa. There is no set date for the 789 and 380 CS refits so the current BA design will certainly be flying in 2026, at LGW and probably still at LHR. At which point it will be TWENTY years old, can anyone name an older international J seat in operation? BA is a national embarrassment and I go out of my way to avoid them, I urge others to do the same unless they enjoy paying big bucks for a terrible product, just because there is a Union Flag on the tail.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
I think the more grown up holistic view sees an airline which is realising a slow but steady recovery from a long period of neglect. The A380’s are planned on for the refit, likely pre 2025 which will also see a brand new first class. The 787-9, who knows but it’s a tiny part of the fleet thus I’m not really that bothered. In the meantime, they have one of the strongest loyalty programmes in the industry, a partner network of some of the best carriers in the industry and still an offering which is far superior than anything else flying west of the UK. Subject to popular belief, yes the food is plated as opposed to floating on the tray and on the tail of the aircraft, you’ll find the Union Jack. And whilst there's undeniably so many more impressive Business Class products out there on the market of which many I've featured on the channel, if you do find youself able to pluck up the courage to show us one, go ahead. In the meantime, we'll be waiting.
@andbrads
Жыл бұрын
@@TravelsbydreamerWhat is your statement BA is in recovery based on? What tangible changes have they made in the last year? Maybe the free tea if you’re flying 6 hours in Y to CAI or AMM 😂 The state of the showers in GC south indicates BAs attitude towards investment and, despite Sean’s platitudes, nothing is changing nor will whilst they can price gouge the direct UK market for their precious shareholders. Regarding plating, I’m afraid the point has been missed; the vast majority of decent long haul J airlines present the food on a plate which is different to what it is cooked in. Even BA used to do this, before the rot really set in. Just want to understand your last para, only those who post their own videos can offer any critical review? Seems a little thin skinned but OK.
@nickf619
Жыл бұрын
Just a note the 787’s are due a refurb before the 380’s. The 787s are due to begin in 24 due to delays with the seat manufacturer
@coopa2002
Жыл бұрын
@@Travelsbydreamer British Airways is a failing airline trying to hold onto the golden era of it's past. The service is inconsistent at best, the pricing is absoloutley shocking for a business class product that is almost 20 years old, and IAG are doing whatever possible to increase shareholder profit, they're not striving to be the best anymore, they're striving to cut corners and drive up profits. There's no other way you can see it, even with rose tinted glasses. I have BA gold status and I will not be renewing it, especially after the recent BAEC avios earning rate cuts, which targeted their most loyal customers. In 10 years time unless BA has a dramatic change of course, they're going to be akin to a Sri Lanka Airlines. They already have ratings similar to Ryanair, Wizz Air, and Eurowings. When a full service airline is being beaten by the likes of Vueling, Easyjet, and TUI, you know something is wrong.
@boblargecock7724
Жыл бұрын
That business class product is old and very tired. That BA have the brass neck to charge the same for that as you would pay for Qatar or Emerates is shocking. Unfortunately, BA decided to go the way of the American carriers and they're so far behind its unreal.
@Travelsbydreamer
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think when compared to EK or Qatar this seat is a long way behind and when travelling east, it’s advisable if the costs are the same to consider another airline, especially given the potential for enchanted status earning when connecting through Doha vs going direct from Heathrow. Less good choices when travelling west sadly…
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