Who else is simply happy that martial arts assassin is finally playable in Hell, regardless of perhaps being OP?
@barial1
Жыл бұрын
honestly still dont care too much about it, especially knowing that theres 0% chance it stays in its current state
@Forty2de
Жыл бұрын
Rather OP than NoP
@ADHGaming1
Жыл бұрын
First time ever playing her and she's fun even to lvl/walk with
@Shipdacheese
Жыл бұрын
It looks so fun though. Everything just melts
@iRavenTM
Жыл бұрын
I mean I agree better op than nop, but I think they should at least make the runes higher in Mosaic. It's way too broken for way too cheap.
@Gundams33d00
Жыл бұрын
The Versatility of this build is what makes it amazing. Theres so many combos you can run changing what Area you are farming.
@Forty2de
Жыл бұрын
I read that the damage boost from Tiger Strike is applied *before* Fists of Fire converts it into fire damage, meaning that it does increase your fire damage. So you should add TS to your boss combo and damage combo.
@lexmtaylor
Жыл бұрын
It does keep you from Life Leeching without any physical damage. If you do that you have to find another way to stay alive in melee. Easier just to not use FoF.
@a.j.1614
Жыл бұрын
@@lexmtaylor Dracs. Better Mosaic bases and you don't need IAS on glove slot.
@Vismajor01
Жыл бұрын
@a.j.1614 And why Dracs are any good if there is no physical dmg?
@off-meta-michael
Жыл бұрын
If they do nerf this build i think the only thing they'd have to do is make it so you can only have 2 different charge abilities at any given time on deck that you can spam. The way you demonstrated the charges in the beginning was pretty smooth and seemed like it would be a better gameplay experience than spamming all the damage and nuking everything in every area. I guess the option to do either is nice though and even though it's OP, it's nice to have assassin in the S tier for a change.
@bobnewkirk7003
Жыл бұрын
I am really liking runninng 1 point in Fists of Fire. the skill scales damage conversion off the soft points so with gear you will have ~lvl 15 or ~50% physical damage conversion. Then you can run Tigers strike for the +damage component as well as have enough physical damage to leech effectively off cobra strike and/or Dracs for ubers. Edit: also its 100% worth putting the 3 points in to get Dragon Flight. it lets you maintain your charges between packs much easier. plus it makes Enigma optional in most situations.
@nikkof5384
16 күн бұрын
I picked D2R prior to this season and your comment made me hang onto some +3 Dragon Flight claws I found in Hardcore. Thanks bro
@bobnewkirk7003
16 күн бұрын
@@nikkof5384 happy to help. good find.
@rickycanupsmashedbutwhole808
Жыл бұрын
I have been enjoying it. It's set up and having to press forward constantly is such a different gameplay I don't think I want it to change. Because you can do this with other builds and completely turn your brain off. And never have to worry about the start up making them much better for target farming even p8
@Steph1
Жыл бұрын
The 6 kicks should simply only trigger 1 finish, since you only use it once. That’ll be a massive nerf to the current setup but allows for buffing slightly across the entire tree
@JosephMagicFlower
Жыл бұрын
Then you can just use another finishing move...
@bohanxu6125
Жыл бұрын
make the first kicks only trigger one type of charges... and make the final kick triggers all charges (and make that there can only be 2 or 3 type of charges orbiting at the sametime)... or something like
@Steph1
Жыл бұрын
@@JosephMagicFlowerthat’s exactly my point, it opens up the diversity 👍
@JosephMagicFlower
Жыл бұрын
@@Steph1 but it's not a real nerf...
@KJYKJY1985
Жыл бұрын
@@JosephMagicFlower How is it not a real nerf?
@sodapopinski8064
Жыл бұрын
It's funny how careful they are with power creep on so many rune words, then they do this. They need to nerf the hell out of the proc rate, at the least. No other build even comes close to this.
@JosephMagicFlower
Жыл бұрын
They were careful cause original mosaic was 25% chance... then a lot of power creep people started to cry...
@peepopoo4387
Жыл бұрын
@@JosephMagicFlower This channel specifically yet Llama pretends to be some puritan.
@JosephMagicFlower
Жыл бұрын
So op you don't even need infinity to farm p8 everything because it's a tri-element aoe build that always hit... it's the most budget s tier build. Even no need for merc, mana cheaper, huge life leach and much better mechanic and aim than hammerdin... you have even a built in teleport wich releases charges.
@freesoul5132
Жыл бұрын
Maybe put Mosaic back to 25% chance not consuming charges. And add 25%to Natalya's Claw and 50% to Full Natalya's set bonus. You could still get to 100% with full Nat and Mosaic, but it would not be super op becuase u can't use enigma, griffon or gores
@ShoahBiz
Жыл бұрын
Why does it need to be slower than a few other meta builds
@alphapolimeris
Жыл бұрын
I like that idea.
@freesoul5132
Жыл бұрын
@@ShoahBiz maybe allow shift+click to dragon flight then :P
@jordil5469
Жыл бұрын
but natalya’s set is horrible and has no end game use, terrible idea
@quietlightning4063
Жыл бұрын
The assassin is so much fun to play now and that’s what matters. Maybe add some new challenges to the game.. right now it’s too easy for some builds.. I think nerfs should be a last resort. Power creep is not the problem- it’s the lack of higher level challenges
@timabel280
Жыл бұрын
After seeing it in action I think it needs to be a blanket @25% on each finisher and at lvl1 and getting a 1% increase. So at lvl 25 finisher has 50%chance not to consume then the mosaic is just to keep stacks and you need 2 on if finishers low or 1 if finishers maxed.
@zaug1561
Жыл бұрын
There is a very simple nerf to make it A-S tier but not God Mode. Just remove the replenishing finishers.
@leirravettily2339
Жыл бұрын
Exactly this! No timer refresh on finishers and charge maintenance automatically pulls this one back in.
@fabioc.9682
Жыл бұрын
mosaic makes absolutely no sense. it's a PoE item.. must be heavily nerfed. they should come up with actual class fixes instead of a mandatory broken RW for the MA sin to be functional.
@unholyiiamas
Жыл бұрын
I don't see it as OP when we've had hammerdins mow down everything for decades
@philbrake7525
Жыл бұрын
Hey Llama thanks for the great video! I would love to see an "Attack speed for dummies" video for this build in the future. Ive read so many contradicting information about how much attack speed you want based on which claws you are using. Even the maxroll guides say one thing but show another in the gear, which is confusing. For instance i heard from reddit/forum threads if you have 2x Greater Talons, you dont want any attack speed on gear, but then showcasing Greater Talons using Treachery which has 45% IAS. Very confusing for my peanut brain.
@schuhey7021
Жыл бұрын
The thing about using Greater Talons or Runic Talons was that if you kick too fast, the charges bug out and don't do damage on every kick (cause they are going off too fast). This was okay if you had no IAS on gear as you wouldn't go to the next break point, but if you wore treachery, you would. Just confirmed with IAS calc and it seems that yeah, if your mainhand is a greater/runic talon, 5 IAS on other gear will take you from 4 frame kick to 3 frame kick. But, so many good items have attack speed on them that TBH I think it's too much of a pain in the ass avoiding having IAS on something else, as it means no treachery, no hustle, so unless you have enigma, what the hell chest piece do you wear? So long story short, I wouldn't worry about it.
@7DragonEyes7
Жыл бұрын
You said it yourself the main issue is the building up. My idea from the start is to have ability build up + use, so you build up everything swap to keep the timer up and then when you find a boss you use a finisher unleashing all charges. Then building up is not as bad because you are not "wasting" time with normal attacks. What I mean by build up + use: Phoenix Strike you'll charge up + a meteor fall, charge up again chain lightning, charge up again chaos orb. You have the effect and build a charge. Finishing doesn't change. That makes it so your gameplay is the same from start to finish and 1 item doesn't make or break the build. Also weird that Fists of Fire convert all damage to fire, because it clearly says add damage, like the others, seems like a bug. (never noticed with all my years playing MA since Cobra Strike is not often use)
@meteorstormz8224
Жыл бұрын
I just don't want the charges to be inconsistent (ex.: if you wear 2x mosaic -> it will be 75%, so 50%+50% of that 50%). I hope the nerf will be like you said to just have 2 type of charges at time. That will be awesome. Great video and nice show off for that build :)
@emmittjaydelong
Жыл бұрын
Maybe not 1 trigger per use but an ICD of .5s between each trigger. You get one off every two or three shots. Max out Fade and run the three ele pen charms.
@-Merkuleez
Жыл бұрын
One of these mosaic builds got rocked in hc hell last night. I re spect to trapper after that
@wojciechwojtowicz1872
Жыл бұрын
myself died 2ce , 4v mosaics gone
@MarkMiller304
Жыл бұрын
Let me help you - 100% chance to not consume charges on finishers - finishers only trigger charges once per attack cycle - triple elemental charge up damage Mosaic - charges don’t expire
@occelatus1063
Жыл бұрын
I don´t know how but nerf the weapon and buff the skill? 25% instead of 50% but charges last longer? Or keep 50% but only consume 1 charge per finish? That would mean Mosaic you get to choose which charge you always use. But without mosaic you scroll through every charge until all of them are consumed
@georgipetkov9374
Жыл бұрын
I think it is OP in the sense that you can use all charge types. I think it should be restricted to use 1 type of charges... otherwise they just wreck all
@13Wirrlicht42
Жыл бұрын
NO! Do not nerf all players that do not have 2 mosaics + endgame gear (yet). Your solution is short sightet. SP and SSF would suffer and further reduce the fun of a MAsin because of a lazy "fix".
@abunja
Жыл бұрын
With the mechanic from the MA tree is difficult to pull off by itself especially on Hell, adding Mosaic is a breathe of fresh air for one of the most underutilized build. I like this kind of high risk-high reward gameplay; an option of a safer 50% with a shield and full 100% using dual claws for more damage and disregarding all defensive aspects of shield (block and res). What I don't like is the reward is "too rewarding"; very strong to a point that it almost invalidates any form of challenge by simply playing with the charges wisely. Not to say that I'm against strategic utilization of charges but you can't just have all of the charges up and slay everything. I think increasing the duration of charges and limiting the amount of stacked charges is a good compromise with Mosaic since they've decided to play with the coding of charges with this new mod.
@Lukasaske
Жыл бұрын
I've never seen this build; the kick + nova looks so over the top and I love it!
@bobnewkirk7003
Жыл бұрын
unfortunately the Nova is a dps loss. because COT is on the NHD list all the charges of COT as well as Phoenix strike are incompatible. you hit way harder on the PS2 charge so the points in COT are just for synergy bonus.
@0xANIMAx0
Жыл бұрын
if there is a nerf, that's it for the ladder with D2R. the assassin is good the way it is
@sodapopinski8064
Жыл бұрын
You don't need to choose between dmg and safety... just don't put hard points into FOF and use it all the time with everything else. If +skills gets you up to low 20s in FOF, it only converts like 50% of the phys to fire, leaving plenty of room to leech. This allows you to easily max fade, and put remaining points to either try for 7 kicks, or buff up tiger/cobra strike a bit. Super tanky with huge sustain on top of the best damage. Then all you have to do is decide how much to charge up PS.
@andreasels779
Жыл бұрын
You are crippling your boss dps this way though, since you are missing the synergy of FoF to PS
@sodapopinski8064
Жыл бұрын
@@andreasels779 it's still level 20-25 FoF. It's still plenty to chew threw bosses, without having to sacrifice the sustain. I'd rather use FoF all the time than just sometimes, and having half conversion allows for that.
@andreasels779
Жыл бұрын
@@sodapopinski8064 But your meteor damage would only be 1/3 of the fully synergized value which is the majority of your boss dps I assume.
@sodapopinski8064
Жыл бұрын
@@andreasels779 depends on how you build it really. The thing about Mosaic is it overperforms at such an absurd level that you can play it a couple of different ways and still clear all content without issue. I don't feel a need to give up FoF as an every-day use portion of the power, or give up the leech, just for the sake of a little bit faster ubers. Because even mid-tier mosaic clears p8 baal in a few seconds. Once you get the hang of building charges correctly, you can't really go wrong.
@B0redom13
Жыл бұрын
I always loved martial arts assassin, I’m glad she’s playable to end game now
@alexanderthegreat3424
Жыл бұрын
The fact that it refreshes the 15 sec time limit for the charges is what makes it OP. In case they nerf this, they could remove this refresh stat from the Mosaic runeword, and may just extend the charge time limit to 20 seconds.
@Lonoty
Жыл бұрын
I agree. This line, added at the last minute, untested, is what made it OP. Plus, it doesnt help the MAsin overall, just the Mosaic Assassin.
@IAmJustAnUser
Жыл бұрын
I hope after this season you will be able to use only one type of charges and you will change what type of charge you use depending the zone.
@Norrieification
Жыл бұрын
14:45 Here's a suggestion for how to do it. Make Claw Mastery passively add a chance to keep charges for hard points (similar to how the passive part of resist auras work for paladins), 4% chance per level, capped at 80%. Nerf Mosaics down to 10% per claw. So you can get 80% just from hard points, but to get the full 100% you need to run mosaics. That way people can still get more and more powerful as they level, and there might even be some builds that are fine with other claw weapons and 80% (I could see some phoenix strike and dragon tail builds potentially opting for that), but you can still get the 100% if you run the mosaics.
@SadderCatLin
Жыл бұрын
The issue is that without mosaics its a below average build even with 80% chance you would have to restack so much, if anything they cap the charges on mosaic to balance it out
@Stompy1984
Жыл бұрын
I cannot wait to switch from my Trapsin to the Christmastree-Sin
@Stompy1984
Жыл бұрын
Anyone has 2 spare Gul Runes so I can start running this 🤣 I'll trade off my first born for them!
@konrad1073
Жыл бұрын
Only issue with this character I've got, is wearing welding mask so I'm not getting blinded after an hour of farming.. because it's bloody BRIGHT
@bfmvbrass
Жыл бұрын
Rofl, i was thinking sunglasses but this is gold😂
@fallenabr7654
Жыл бұрын
Puss
@pathexile1913
Жыл бұрын
Heard about ingame and monitor brightness that helped me alot
@russellcrowe187
Жыл бұрын
Turn ur brightness down
@Merumya
Жыл бұрын
is there any reason to use elite claws at all? it seems to me, they have a lot more stat requirements, but the dmg doesnt matter at all. dmg comes from skills and kicks, the claws dont matter at all. so exceptional claws with +skills would be the way to go, wouldnt they?
@kylecharrington984
Жыл бұрын
with diablo if you convert a mob with mind blast before u kill last seal boss he wont die when seals pop so u can use him to keep charges for diablo :)
@erikkarlsson6839
Жыл бұрын
PLEASE Blizzard, do NOT nerf this! Im having so much fun playing this build and its incredibly refreshing to have something else viable than the hammerdin or blizz sorc
@plutobottles8561
Жыл бұрын
not sure if this is in the cmomments or if you figured it out but between baal wave 3-4 you can kill most of them drag one back, kill it as soon as the hydras go and he laughs and you keep your stack
@charlesjohnson6928
Жыл бұрын
Here is an idea.. base martial arts you do not consume charges and finishing moves refresh the duration but only can hold 1 charge. Mosaic allows for 2 charges to be held at once. This would make the base martial arts assassin less crap, would make mosaic not useless with only 1 claw, make other claw options potentially viable, open up other buids and a mosaic nerf overall.
@rgracon
Жыл бұрын
What about an alternative where you could still have as many skills charged up as you want, but if mosaic triggers to not lose the charges, that it only hits with the charges of one charge-up skill per finishing attack… So charge up three or four if you want, but randomize which one actually releases per set of kicks. That would allow you to choose if you wanted to only charge up one or two to prioritize them, or to have them all as a possibility.
@SirDehumanized
Жыл бұрын
They’ll do this to MA Assassin but they refuse to buff whirlwind 🤦♂️
@Max-vp6rq
Жыл бұрын
I feel like the gameplay of a MA should have been design that way from the start (i.e: you build charge and get to keep it for a specific duration). However the power of the skills need to be scaled accordingly.
@TheKobool
Жыл бұрын
What Mosaic does now should be base MA assa. Just double duration on Mosaic. Maybe not being able to stack fire, cold and lighting at the same. So you can still mix in Cobra with Phoenix and a element. There is a lot of ways to balance this tbh. Also they should cap or remove the phys to fire convertion and next hit delay. And tone down the burning ground from PS meteor(its makeing people Crash)
@zacharyliebenstein6386
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. Was ripping my hair out trying to figure out why CS wasn't giving me LL and it was FoF lol - also in combo 2 I think you might want BOL 1 with PS 3
@petergriffinson1907
Жыл бұрын
Keeping charges up and have a 15 second window until the next attack is a good balance I believe.
@ginamar6218
Жыл бұрын
"You have to wear sunglasses when playing it" *Coooley has entered the chat
@Gavinbelson
Жыл бұрын
except cooley SHIT on this build and laughed at it. Hes a tool.
@ginamar6218
Жыл бұрын
@GavinBelson can't say I've watched much of his content. Just seen him in my feed like two seconds before watching this video
@JoeArn1
Жыл бұрын
Dude. I was wondering what Llama was up to. I was watching Regular Schmuck. This is wild
@SwiFTDBL
Жыл бұрын
"def need some sunglasses for it" lmao.
@Mr.E.Fragrance
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the broken build has one slight weakness when it comes to fighting Baal Boo Hoo... lol it's still ridiculous.
@DMBlade4
Жыл бұрын
Further reducing the duration of the charges would be the perfect nerf to the build. Keep attacking and you keep all the charges up, stop attacking and you lose them. Turn it into an area farming build that requires you to constantly be on the move and not a boss build. This would also help balance PVP as opponents could just run to keep you from maxing charges
@worpig
Жыл бұрын
Mosaic should just do a proc of a Charge Ability when a Finishing move is used, make it so you can only stack 2 elements (on top of Phoenix strike) .. then put the 100% Not Consume on Claw Mastery to make it useful for Kicksins as well as a Dragon Claw build.
@top5g04t
Жыл бұрын
it's kinda hard to tell from this vid cus everything's dying instantly anyways but I'm pretty sure phoenix strike 2 and phoenix strike 3 won't be dealing any damage if ur running claws of thunder 3 due to hit delay. Normally the chain lightning would be able to spiral around and eventually find a timing to hit, but with how many novas and charged bolts ur pumping out I'm not sure there's actually a window for it to do anything
@Em4gdn1m
Жыл бұрын
By far the most versatile build in the game. Even compared to a dual spec sorc or anything else.
@thomasmuller8528
Жыл бұрын
Javazon use Baal like a sex toy better than that 😄
@Em4gdn1m
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasmuller8528 most diverse. Meaning you can go anywhere and do it all. Javazons can't kill lightning immunes
@almiser
Жыл бұрын
@@Em4gdn1m Lightning Sunder ?
@thomasmuller8528
Жыл бұрын
@@Em4gdn1m i have sundered this problem but i understand what you mean, like a hammerdin but with more FX 😄
@Em4gdn1m
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasmuller8528 take a hammerdin to the maggot lair and tell me they can do everything.
@phillipcontreras720
Жыл бұрын
you can split low level fist of fire and tiger strike. It will do massive physical damage and about 50% converted to fire damage so still huge aoe fire but also still few thousand damage per kick to leech off of.
@shipitsoneo
Жыл бұрын
I think mosaic can have something like -25-30% to elemental damage. That would keep the fun control part, and it won’t be this broken
@kwmcgreal
Жыл бұрын
Adding increase charge duration to a skill would be nice too
@brandencross6196
Жыл бұрын
@13:27 the biggest issue is you should read shrines before you click on them so you don't blow yourself up...
@ericc8097
Жыл бұрын
may be allow to set max charge for specific skill no matter how many times you attack would be even better
@CoffeeAndBusiness
9 ай бұрын
I’m building one of these right now but idk if I will like it. Seems like a lot of hotkeys to use
@RandoBox
Жыл бұрын
Why not just use Fists of Fire below lvl 34 so that you get a few percentages of physical damage? Is that not enough leech with Tiger Strike and +skilled Cobra Strike?
@KJYKJY1985
Жыл бұрын
The people who were pushing for 100% chance to not lose charges didn't expect them to make is so unleashed charges would reset the duration. I wonder if making it so your charges could expire whether you're unleashing them or not would balance this out.
@robertbeer6345
Жыл бұрын
I Hope they dont Nerf anything. This build ist pretty much fun. ITS complicated and Not so easy. But realy funny. And ITS good to see some other builds, that Rocks.
@wojciechmatysiak3065
Жыл бұрын
If you want to nerf the build it would be good to limit overall number of charges to like 8 (or any other aribtrary number) this way you could still mix and match all your combos but it would force you to choose which strike you want you use instead of just maxing out all the charges at all times.
@will968
Жыл бұрын
add a talent to the tree that has the effect of mosaic at 20 points investment you get 50% chance that way you use one mosaic for 100% chance and then u have one free hand slot?
@felipewatanabe7128
Жыл бұрын
Probably it should have a max charges like.. +3 max permanent charges per mosaic claw. With 2 claws you could have a +6 total
@jarlfisk
Жыл бұрын
Even if its OP i don't like i have to keep up the charges and if they go away i need to re apply them + u need enigma to travel around fast. I much rather prefer enchant Sorc :b also OP
@nostalgiat7000
Жыл бұрын
Love the Vids Llama, but as a newb just starting the season I would love to hear about, even just briefly, how to get to this final build. I find I get around hell and fall apart and cant progress. Thanks bud
@KyleStevenJohnson
Жыл бұрын
Respec to lightning Trapsin. Buy a lower res wand from the shop to deal with immunes. Farm nihlathak for keys of destruction. Trade keys for runes until you can get to dual mosaic. respec to martial arts.
@epicscoreCS2
Жыл бұрын
Keep fist of fire on low level, reduce your dmg but make you abeal to life steel. is an option, seens it scaled % per points in it turning your physical to fire damage
@Meklerens
Жыл бұрын
I think every class deserves one broken/fun build for the ladder start. But man if they dont buff unique and set items next patch I'm raging.
@coreygamble5382
Жыл бұрын
The dragon tail version of this is super fun too.
@JensBruun92
Жыл бұрын
I would just love to see the timer reset on charges go away since I feel like it takes away the a lot of the premise of building up charges and releasing them. Now you just build them up once and forget about it as long as there is something to hit. So no consumption, but let the timer keep counting
@0verpwned
Жыл бұрын
The build would be trash if every 15 seconds you had to recharge. Think about what charges you are building too. 2 pheonix, 3 cobra, 3 ice... by the time you are here the 2 pheonix have like 5 seconds left on them and thats before even pressing a finishing move. The greatest weakness of this build is the chance of losing charges and having to build from scratch. You cannot build charges on dangerous mobs because you just die, so every 15secs you would have to tele somewhere to build charges to come back and start again? If the timer keeps going on the charges the build is over. That's what makes nerfs so hard for this build. Nerf the % chance of keeping so its not 100% and its terrible, nerf the charges resetting and its terrible, nerf how many charges you can have IE only 2 skills at a time and the damage isn't good enough for hell. The state it's in right now is insanely strong I completely agree, the alternative is MA being unusable for another 20 years...
@JensBruun92
Жыл бұрын
@@0verpwned it's not like you have to rebuild all the charges if you remember to refresh them manually, then it would just be 1 hit with each (excluding phoenix strike if you wanna keep it at 2 charges). I know it would require a lot more input from the player, and nerf the build hard, but that's what I feel like fits the martial arts more. There could be an extended timer by a few seconds on each mosaic too so you would have some more leeway to work with.
@Ant3rn
Жыл бұрын
We have discovered most powerful casting ability in fantasy universe: cast spells with your LEGS!
@MarkMiller304
Жыл бұрын
Just mind blast to convert a few monsters, you can build charges anywhere. Assassin has the best cc and nobody uses it.
@stambar80
Жыл бұрын
Why Talon is more preferable than Dragon Claw? Because of the consecutive kicks? Doesn't Claw releases 2 charges?
@StirbMensch
Жыл бұрын
Because it delivers 6-7 (or even 8, with enough +skills) charge releases insanely fast, way faster than Dragon Claw It's the same reason why DTalon has been the skill of choice for kicksin builds, easily crushing out bosses with lots of CB procs
@zackfea6498
Жыл бұрын
Made a martial arts wake of fire sin n it is fun. Punch till i c meteors then drop traps while meteors fall. Much better than clicking everywhere looking for mobs in the light.
@peepcw1780
Жыл бұрын
no build should ever be nerfed... you choose how you want to play the game, and if you choose a broken build to make the game easier, thats on you hahaha
@ingoskate422
Жыл бұрын
i think what kinda balance the build immo is the movement u can kill pretty fast and have high st damage (obv 2 mosaic and thunder charm required) but u need to get the charges, most of the time u stuck in fade so no burst of speed(wouldnt be lvld anyway) for ms without enigma u run into the same issue as a javazon u can kill pretty much everything pretty fast with sunder charm but u need much more time in comparison to paly mage to get to your farming spot to make it realy worth it to got that absurd amount of damage without enigma only realy good spot would be terror zones (depend on which is up) and cows obv
@mrtran1626
Жыл бұрын
Chaos is pretty good, Baal isn’t too bad. Act 2 stuff is rough
@Lonoty
Жыл бұрын
I find it hard to believe that the devs really test these changes before implementing them. Unless making a build OP for one season is intentional, just to bring people back in, which is dishonest IMO.
@arc4830
Жыл бұрын
Should put synergies onto all the charge up skills so that hard points into finishers give 5% chance to not remove a charge. 20 points across any of the finishers = 100%. Means you dont need the mosaic and can spec into whatever finisher you prefer, and opens up all the other decent claws that never get used. Mosaic should still be strong given its a highish runeword, but the entire martial arts assassn shouldnt be gated by it. IMO.
@JosephMagicFlower
Жыл бұрын
This build is by far the most op build of this game and you wan't to make it even item independent? Op to the opth power...
@BotaoPan
Жыл бұрын
The fact that two mosaics are required for this build makes me thinking maybe set runewords can become a thing.
@Mozgodrobil
Жыл бұрын
I think the idea of tying a chance to not consume a charge on hit to Claw Mastery is actually a very clever idea, but what really makes this concept broken is when you don't spend the charges at all, resulting in Blade Talon being the best finisher move possible, since it hits so many times. I honestly feel like we need to cap this new affix at 50% chance to proc max, maybe even get it down to 25-30% to engage players in back n' forth, otherwise you don't care about the stacks once you got them just run forward and melt everything. This is a step in a right direction, with a long path ahead, wouldn't want this to be like D3 where you need these specific skills and this specific gear in order for your build to be busted or work well.
@kylesmith987
Жыл бұрын
I like the idea on claw mastery as well but I do not like the idea of it being anything less then 100% chance to not consume charges. This will just result in really clunky RNG gameplay that is annoying to play around because there is no flow to it when the ability to not consume charges is an RNG proc. I think it would be better balanced to just limit the number charges/strikes you can have active at one point in time.
@underheavenunderheaven8446
Жыл бұрын
Just wonder if this build will get some nerf or they'll leave it be.
@fabiendevil
Жыл бұрын
Well I don’t understand why you don’t go for some crushing blow for bosses, with 6 kicks, you would even melt ubers very fast and kill the rest with mosaic. Duress & Gores should be enough therefore with Maras and a nice circlet, you will drop fade for BoS. And come back to fade when you get enigma
@ympkilla
Жыл бұрын
So the sorceress, which should be most powerful magic-wielding character in the game, needs to spec into different trees and select different gear in order to deal respectable amounts of damage from one single school of elemental damage. The class was op, but it still sounded fair because the sorc is a glass cannon after all. With dual Mosaic the assassin has absolutely no weakness - obscene damage from all elemental types, ridculous boss killer and uber killer, insane survivability (cobra strike, fade), second best mobility in the game without enigma. I think D2R team has absolutely lost it with these changes - it took a giant shit on all sort of class balance.
@esourteric412
Жыл бұрын
And I don’t know why I never noticed before, but that clicking is absolutely annoying noise gates exist, right?
@hotpancakes9814
Жыл бұрын
finally got my 2x gul/2x mal after grinding since friday lol. cant wait to spec into this
@danielgeronimo5538
Жыл бұрын
This is my first go to build trying out Diablo 2 the first time so I'm very happy this is getting the attention it rightfully deserves.
@Oh_deer777
Жыл бұрын
they need to make it so that the mosaic effect is either found on all claws or is in the skill tree and then nerf the damage by half (or more) for most of the abilities but make it so that once you actually get really good gear you're doing the same damage you are now. as it stands it's just too easy to be OP w/ this build.
@tommyhamilton907
Жыл бұрын
Could the nerf be like 10 seconds instead of 15 and only 3 "stances" at a time with that claw? If you can flesh that out somehow.
@nickderosa-2046
Жыл бұрын
I have been thinking of having ice,Thunder ,phoenix n fade maxed out n rest of the points in fire.
@Kpizzle5970
Жыл бұрын
“Like I say” and then continues the rest of his sentence. 😂 kills me --> also slightly drives me mad
@lefgia
Жыл бұрын
I play with double claw as a finisher and cobra strike ll works just fine even with fists of fire. Maybe it just doesn't work with kick finisher
@miiko7859
Жыл бұрын
The problem I have with this build is that it makes dragon claws redundant as a skill entirely. They need to rework dragon claws.
@manoqueenz
Жыл бұрын
The mechanic of charges makes it so that it either has to be like this and stay OP, or get nerfed, but completely nerfed to oblivion. There's just no way MA can be good and reasonably fun if it's not exactly functioning like this. So if they're gonna nerf it, they might as well just remove mosaic because it's gonna suck awfully in any form of nerfed state
@leonardo.muricy
Жыл бұрын
You really don't need any kind of sunder with this build, but I'd use a cold one just to be completely safe, since you'd be guaranteed to freeze everything always. Then the other sources of damage would kill everything.
@Pit_stains
Жыл бұрын
To "nerf" I think they just need to add a 1 second cooldown for each finisher.
@Nequamm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for infos. PD2 > D2R. They make something fun, but no test, no balance... Well D4 is coming, don't see they doing effort on balance.
@jcoulter08jc
Жыл бұрын
The build needs 2 nerfs. 1) the amount of power creep provided by 2 cheap runeword claws. Keep the gul it brings value to the rune but it needs 1-2 HR in that build path. Such as Sur and Lo or cham. Its to much power creep for mid tier runes. 2) it needs an overall nerf. This allows MA assassin to clear all content in the game practically naked with no sunder charm, immunities doesn't matter, -res gear doesn't matter. You are getting full late late game damage and clear speed from 2 mid tier runes.
@Dustyenjoyer
Жыл бұрын
When is the guided play through?
@Voicelet
Жыл бұрын
I think the best way to move forward with this direction is to have all the finishers get built-in 100% charge sustain, charges won't drop but normal attack expenses all charge (to be able to change combo), your suggested two rings of charges max, and kick finisher deals reduced combo damage. Mosaic then could just change to overcharging elemental damage or something.
@champion6534
Жыл бұрын
Since I’m a single player guy, I will build this sin. For a second I thought this build was op but the building up chargers balances it out. Wouldn’t want the game to be too easy. Edit: can you do Ubers?
@Stompy1984
Жыл бұрын
This should be able to do Ubers yes. You will just go for Tiger Strike, Cobra Strike, Claws of Thunder, Blades of Ice and Phoenix Strike (1 charge on Mephisto, 2 charges on Baal/Diablo) and go HAM. As long as you don't pick up the Fist of Fire Stacks (or keep the skill low level) you will completely annihilate anything that comes close to you.
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