(0:26 is the good part) Bruno makes his case for fighting fire with fire when it comes to soft money campaign ads. The West Wing S03E06 Gone Quiet 35:16
Bruno starts shouting right away and Toby just looks like, "I literally just walked in, man"
@joshuabeckworth1066
3 жыл бұрын
That's his default expression
@JustSomeCanadianGuy
Жыл бұрын
In the Frank Capra fantasy of The West Wing, Bruno is like a special guest from reality.
@middle-aged-mom-discoversstuff
3 жыл бұрын
I loved Bruno on West Wing.
@xkevlar7x
3 жыл бұрын
For me it went from "I really hate this guy" to "isn't he just the cutest thing?"
@Elthenar
Ай бұрын
I love Bruno, he's an amoral prick who is fighting for the right reasons.
@sharan6484
3 жыл бұрын
Bruno does a good Al Pacino impersonation..
@ronaldjones5589
3 жыл бұрын
Thank You, I have seen it myself
@williamheller211
3 ай бұрын
And a good liberal impression. Ron Silver is politically conservative.
@BaileysMariner
Ай бұрын
@@williamheller211 Was.
@talespinner4515
2 жыл бұрын
Man, this is so true. As a Democrat, I wish our leaders would stand up and say "You know what Democrats should believe in? A well-funded public education system, focused not just on science and technology, but culture and literature and arts and critical thinking. We should be focused on getting criminals off of our streets AND fighting the poverty that put them there in the first place. We should be focused on labor, no matter which sector, because baristas in Sacramento deserve better wages and working conditions just as much as the coal miners in West Virginia. And when it comes to those sectors of the economy getting left behind, and regions like the Rust Belt, we need to have systems in place to ensure investment and new jobs in those regions." Instead, we get everyone screeching about whatever social politics are triggering college kids on TikTok. It's embarrassing.
@Ladco77
Жыл бұрын
As a Republican, I could support a candidate that campaigned on those issues and proposed solutions. (and before the anti-MAGA's come at me, while I'm registered as a Republican, I consider myself more conservative or libertarian. What the Republican party has become in recent years isn't the party I joined. I'd register as a Libertarian but at least being registered as a Republican I can vote in GOP primaries to try and limit the damage).
@storyarcher8125
Жыл бұрын
Simple truth. The Democrat party has lost its way, focusing on the most ridiculous and absurd distractions, the things that are guaranteed to divide us the most instead of the things in their platform that are the most likely to unite us. It's easy to write off the other side when they're acting like lunatics and then calling you Nazi's and 'phobes and 'ists' for the unmitigated crime of disagreeing with you... it's a lot harder to do so when they're presenting you a reasoned argument, finding common ground on issues that affect everyone and are willing to listen as well as lecture.
@SphincterOfDoom
Жыл бұрын
//deserve// Economics isn't about desert. Politics is about ignoring the rules of economics. There are no solutions, only tradeoffs, and tradeoffs don't poll well.
@craighanson-rc1md
8 ай бұрын
LOL well talk to the democrats it's most democrats policies that actually do more harm then good. And socialism or communism regardless of name is just as bad if not worse in killing people displacing people oppressing people particular women & kids including the elderly. There's plenty of examples & evidence that raising wages without market does more harm then good & that costs rise too when they do not because the evil corporations but just to pay the new wages & there's plenty of people with college degrees & especially in NY or here in california making over $100,000 or more struggling to pay bills especially rent or a mortgage. And california often said to be a leader in policy has for 40 years or more been going down hill fast. Certainly in the last 12+ to the point that people who can afford it are leaving along with their tax funds.
@aaronlobliner7402
8 ай бұрын
Well said. 100% agree.
@talon2000uk
Ай бұрын
I think someone at the DNC watched this episode. They have shown this week that being a democrat does not mean being soft on crime, soft on drugs, soft on comunism or soft on defence. They are not cowering in a croner any more. :D
@xyshomavazax
3 жыл бұрын
This dude needs to be in the ear of every Democrat right now.
@Fourthson100
3 жыл бұрын
I've been saying this decades before the West Wing was even made! Haha!
@JohnSmith-gb5vg
3 жыл бұрын
Why? Hit it on the button; socialist Democratic want to defund police and reduce jail time (soft on crime), want to pc and reduce the military (anti-military), and want to give those who do not work $2500 month. Seems he hit on the button 20yrs ago.
@felipepineda1585
3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-gb5vg - socialist democrats are a minority. Defense budget remains at 250bn a year.... $2,500 unemployment NOR welfare cover that much in short order. I get the argument, don't exaggerate. Also, democratic Marine. Why did I serve, 9-11. A lot more of us served
@TheGrave013
3 жыл бұрын
@@felipepineda1585 Thank you for your insight and your service.
@mikequinlivan8842
3 жыл бұрын
@@felipepineda1585 bingo.
@toddvandell85
3 жыл бұрын
Bruno: "Why am I nervous?: Sam: "It's not amoral." Bruno: "Yeah."
@MrValz0
3 жыл бұрын
There is no doubt in my mind that I'll never see another show like this.
@carlosmainar9473
3 жыл бұрын
the newsroom comes close
@andidubya3840
3 жыл бұрын
@@carlosmainar9473 agreed - didn't even make a blink in the UK either - SO underrated
@icu8128
3 жыл бұрын
Yep like " All in the family " you could not do this one again.
@rhevl3148
11 ай бұрын
@@carlosmainar9473 The Newsroom is a smug, masturbatory fan-fiction set in a laughable, fantasy reality where all the intellectual dishonesty and stupidity in news media comes entirely from only one side of the aisle.
@Tony-pk6ql
2 ай бұрын
Thank God its over. Nothing but left wing elitism, condescending to anyone who thinks differently.
@hendriksmedia
3 жыл бұрын
Ron Silver. Great actor.
@Nickle_King
3 жыл бұрын
I love Bruno. He's like a Mafia boss of politics.
@MehWhatever99
Жыл бұрын
Then he turned around and tried to get a Republican elected in the last season 🤷🏻♀️
@mobiz711
3 жыл бұрын
Tobi recognizes a kindred spirit when he sees one.
@jaspdx63
3 жыл бұрын
"we're both right. we're both wrong." that sentiment is the soul of a functioning democracy where pluralism not only survives, but thrives. but it requires 2 qualities in short supply these days: self-awareness and humility.
@derrickstorm6976
4 ай бұрын
That wasn't his point though 😂 His point was Democrats won't talk on issues when they're wrong on some of them, and Republicans will talk on any issue no matter if they're wring or not
@override367
3 ай бұрын
I mean, the Republican Party's major policy goals in the states they control, and on the federal level, has been focused almost entirely on punishing gays, abolishing the first and fourth amendments, and turning women into chattel, kind of hard to do a "both sides" thing here. You can do that on guns, the democrats and republicans both make shitty points about guns, that's an issue you can say that about, but I'm fucking sorry, Texas automatically sentences any woman with an ectopic pregnancy to DEATH, who has committed no crime, fuck you for equivocating the two at this point in history
@withalittlehelpfrom3
3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the best part of this scene: Ron Silver was actually a pro-Bush conservative! It’s great to think of a Republican reading this and saying “Yep, this is how I wish Democrats would attack us.”
@briansmith8898
3 жыл бұрын
Ron silver was complex politically. He was a democrat until 9/11, then switched to the republicans, mostly due to democrat policies about terrorism. Near the end of his life, he was still a republican, but ended up voting for Obama.
@McKamikazeHighlander
2 жыл бұрын
Yet he voted for Obama before he died
@CT_Taylor
2 жыл бұрын
not the best part. hes knowingly and intelligently pro bush and yet seems to be smart enough to act, read, etc.
@jasonkoch3182
Жыл бұрын
Not at the time this was filmed, he wasn't. His personal political change is why he returned in season seven working for the Vinnick campaign.
@timhunnicutt6106
Жыл бұрын
This whole show tried to sell liberals as really being moderate, haha, how did that work out.
@pk7422
3 жыл бұрын
Can't lie, Bruno had a huge influence on me. "You right wing, anti-choice, anti-education, xenophobic, homophobic, leave it to beaver trip back to the 50's!"
@blackbird5634
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. NOTHING has been done to tRump at this point. NOTHING has happened to Bill Barr or Moscow Mitch and yet the Q-Anon party STILL runs the Senate when Democrats have the Majority. Why Democrats REFUSE to use the power they DO HAVE at this point is beyond me. And WHAT do they face except lies and innuendo and corruption that's been shouted from the rooftops. Why is the Democrat Party and liberal left wing equal to the Buddhist non-committal ''whatever'' when it comes to making things really happen so we don't LOSE OUR DEMOCRACY???
@teejayventura6758
3 жыл бұрын
@@blackbird5634 the Dems control the senate by one seat, lost seats in the house last election, and barely won the White House. What overwhelming power or mandate are you imagining that they have?
@blackbird5634
3 жыл бұрын
@@teejayventura6758 the entire republican side of the Senate can vote against anything put up and with Harris' tie breaking vote the Dems can have whatever they want. There's the rules and yet they don't use them to their own advantage.
@teejayventura6758
3 жыл бұрын
@@blackbird5634 you’re forgetting that Joe Manchin, although a Democrat, sometimes breaks ranks.
@JnEricsonx
3 жыл бұрын
And that was him saying that the better part of 2 decades ago.
@kmoore02809
3 жыл бұрын
Ron Silver is a fabulous actor. Episodes where he showed up were some of the best in the series.
@hint0122
3 ай бұрын
He was a great actor
@FlankerJackChannel
3 жыл бұрын
If my Democratic party had the backbone to act in this manner things would be much different instead we do hide in the corner.
@xkevlar7x
3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty disappointed with the lack of action right now. I can appreciate the attempt at bipartisanship, but when it was apparent that it wasn’t going to work, they did nothing.
@beojack4592
3 жыл бұрын
@@xkevlar7x Indeed, the modern GOP is almost like a force of nature, not people to bargain with. Bargaining with the Senate GOP is like asking a hurricane not to knock your house down or a tiger not to eat you. There is no compromise position with a tornado, you just have to try to limit its power, the people it hurts, or clean up after the damage.1
@FlankerJackChannel
3 жыл бұрын
@@xkevlar7x bipartisanship is a myth. Democrats should move on without the Republicans but no one ever asks me
@woyame1
Ай бұрын
I remember when this scene first aired ages ago and am amazed Democrats and liberals still haven't internalized the truth it tells.
@pauldockree9915
3 жыл бұрын
Connie Britton - respects and R.I.P. Ron Silver. Love this scene.
@liamdesai3551
3 жыл бұрын
God this show was so ahead of its time
@lisarice4402
3 жыл бұрын
One that is greatly missed - thank goodness for KZitem!!
@kinsmed
3 жыл бұрын
And at the same timeless; it is always relevant.
@matthewunderwood9732
3 жыл бұрын
Lol. This show is sanctimonious Democrats pretending they aren’t war criminals that imprisoned black people.
@royalblue5367
3 жыл бұрын
Or it was of its time. And we simply haven't advanced any since then.
@cald1421
Ай бұрын
I think about this scene often because, in real life, Bruno got what he wanted. People used to complain that there was no room for them, they were disaffected and disengaged because the two parties felt like 1. Now have 2 parties but polarization came with it. Careful what you wish for
@ericmiller93
Жыл бұрын
Connie being Connie Britton makes me laugh.
@LMBC6Brian
Ай бұрын
Only person that is as good as Richard Schiff at sounding pissed is Ron Silver. LOVE those guys when they are yelling at someone.
@thomaswagnerjr9137
Жыл бұрын
Insert this clip and never tell anyone it's from 15-20 yrs ago, and you wouldn't know the difference. Now that's brilliant writing!
@theresechristiansen9769
3 жыл бұрын
"Why am I nervous?" "It's not amoral" answers Sam. 💥
@ThePadillaFilms
Ай бұрын
Then they had Bruno runaway Vinick’s campaign
@kinsmed
3 жыл бұрын
I really need to break out my The West Wing DVDs... Now that I'm done with my The Newsroom DVDs.
@jec1ny
Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is Bruno (portrayed by Ron Silver) later went to work for Arnie Vinick, the Republican candidate in the final season of TWW. And in the real world, Silver who had been a lifelong Democrat, left the party in the early 2000s over his belief that Democrats were soft on Islamic terrorism. He campaigned for George Bush in 2004. He was a great actor and we lost him far too young. Memory eternal.
@belvert1
2 ай бұрын
And didn’t Silver play Dershowitz in a movie?
@therearenonameshere
3 жыл бұрын
This is bruno on demorcats
@latenightlogic
Жыл бұрын
The soft on communism part should have been dropped. What, you think capitalism is better?
@valerierodger
23 күн бұрын
What, you don’t understand the concept of a spectrum? You don’t need to become communist to reign in the excesses of capitalism
@cormacjones12
3 жыл бұрын
That pretty much sums up the GOP today
@felipepineda1585
3 жыл бұрын
@james noble GOP is, you say?
@davidtaylor2098
10 ай бұрын
Rings true today.
@MattWatts-kv8rh
3 ай бұрын
If the Republicans keep swiping Supreme Court seats and overturning landmark precedents like Roe, we might have to consider possibly considering the prospect of possibly considering perhaps maybe possibly forming an exploratory committee to look into whether we might maybe consider a discussion about the possibility of expanding the Supreme Court or not.
@BOBBYSOX86
3 жыл бұрын
Ron Silver is a poor mans Al Pacino
@jdb316
3 жыл бұрын
Bruno is absolutely right.
@brendasexton7729
3 жыл бұрын
Nope
@brendasexton7729
3 жыл бұрын
Us Republicans are the good guys
@jcyf94
7 күн бұрын
In 2024, I read it as: “What if there is a party that embodies both sets of ideas or ideals that appear opposite to each other, uniting not only the country but also the world? The check and balance will still be intact, of course, perhaps forever. You know. One Direction. Wouldn’t there be any longer naysayer that passes the litmus test, since cooler heads will prevail eventually? Wouldn’t it be just all-encompassing and dynamite (and dynamic)?” An imaginary friend appears to have said, “It is called the Permanent Majority. Where have you been for the last 23 years?”
@roobear78
Күн бұрын
yeah silver jumped to the dark side no long after this scene,must have really stuck in his craw saying all that stuff
@Ladco77
Жыл бұрын
Both parties are afraid to say what they believe and let people decide for themselves if they agree with that position or not. Taking a position doesn't allow you to wiggle around to try and be everything to everyone. Anything anyone does take a stand, it's always "I'm right and you're evil and stupid if you don't agree." One of my favorite political quotes is from Bill Clinton. He said Democrats and Republicans want the same things: Good jobs, strong economy, good schools, safe neighborhoods,... they just differ on how they think those things could best be achieved. It was refreshing to hear. It wasn't about your vision of America and mine being totally different - each party seeing their own vision as utopia and the opposing party's as a dystopian hellscape. When Clinton was in office and the Republicans had the majority in Congress, they actually did a lot of good working together. Neither got everything they wanted, but neither did either side flip over the table and walk out refusing to talk.
@carlossantamariapico1571
3 жыл бұрын
This is pretty valid for today
@hughdman
3 жыл бұрын
One of the best scenes in the whole series. It ironic that Ron did an about face after 9/11 but i choose to remember him in this scene.
@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394
3 жыл бұрын
"Ron did an about face..." You know he was acting in this video, right? It was just pretend? Reading lines written for a fictional character?
@cesargodoy2920
3 жыл бұрын
@@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394 he was actually a liberal until 911 tho the creators based the characters switch on the actual actors switch .
@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394
3 жыл бұрын
@@cesargodoy2920 The claim of irony remains unjustified.
@oesoy
3 жыл бұрын
Connie IRL is named Connie
@SWOBIZ
3 ай бұрын
The message: "Schools (run by Democrats and teachers unions) are crumbling. We broke it, give us more money, trust us to fix it."
@valerierodger
23 күн бұрын
🙄
@jordancook1668
10 ай бұрын
This show desperately tried to make the Democrats seem patriotic, and maybe back then, it made some sense. I long for the days when the Democratic party didn't exist on a different planet than America. This show harkens to an era when democrats weren't total kooks, run by a demented geezer, and The Squad. This show made Liberalism almost make sense, and that's hard to do, but it did it by living just left of center. You know, the way Democrats used to operate. Those days are long gone.
@masterelmstreet5886
Ай бұрын
Different world? RIIIIGHT, that's why they keep WINNING elections! 2020, 2022, and soon in 2024. You're gonna LOSE in November, little doggie. Get ready to WEEP!
@geraldpatterson3903
Ай бұрын
Panda Express product placement i see
@westmcgee9320
3 жыл бұрын
Respect to Mr Silver - a lifelong Republican, iirc. Acting his arse off.
@partyguy101ify
2 жыл бұрын
Ron Silver wasn't a lifelong Republican. He became one only after the 9/11 attacks in 2001 and campaigned for Bush Jr. Even then, he voted for Obama in 2008 shortly before his death according to his brother.
@valerierodger
23 күн бұрын
You recall completely incorrectly. He was a Democrat until 9/11. he felt the Democrats were too soft on terrorism so he became a independent and he supported Bush. He also voted for Obama..
@westmcgee9320
22 күн бұрын
@@valerierodger I know this. Not sure why I didn’t know or recall at that point, 3 years ago.
@chuckgviolin3538
3 жыл бұрын
The irony of this scene is, Ron Silver (RIP, wonderful actor), was a staunch conservative and said that his political beliefs cost him dozens of roles in Hollywood.
@9313James
3 жыл бұрын
That's not what happened. He was a Democrat until the last 8 years of his life and only switched parties after 9/11. He was ostracised and criticised by colleagues on The West Wing but it didn't damage his career - he worked plenty from 2001 until his death. To add to that his brother said he voted for Obama in 2008 so he only voted Republican in one US Presidential election - 2004.
@MrErizid
3 жыл бұрын
@@9313James 2006 is not a Presidential election year. It would've been 2004.
@9313James
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrErizid Yes you're right, I mistyped. I meant 2004, have now fixed it.
@valerierodger
23 күн бұрын
@@9313James he didn’t switch parties. He became an independent who supported a Republican president
@nicholasavasthi9879
3 жыл бұрын
This, this right here is why I’m so glad to have Democrats like AOC and Ilhan Omar in congress. I don’t necessarily always agree with all of their policies, but at least they show some actual backbone in defending the Democratic policies and principles I do believe in. No more of the entire party just rolling over all the god damn time.
@AudioArcturia
3 жыл бұрын
IT's not even so much that they roll over and play dead, it's that they take personal offense to the issue instead of actually debating the issue (even when they are right). The spend all their clout and energy arguing shit that never really mattered. Republicans want to privatize fire departments, education and SSI - instead of debating why that's fucking stupid they spend all their time saying "Oh my god so you must be racist towards black families." I've been a democrat most of my life but I feel like Bruno here, even recently: No one gives a fuck about your sentiments when that's all you wanna talk about. Sentiment means so fucking little to the other party if it isn't about God or guns. Find some other way to debate it. Violence towards black people on the rise with law enforcement? Find ways at resolving rules of engagement training with law enforcement, not shit like "defund the police". Not only is the phrase disingenuous but it's not even what proposed legislation seeks to do. But no, democratic party members regurgitate that line and make actual police reform impossible to pass because: sentiment. Bruno's right even today - it fucking sucks getting Democrats elected even when you agree with their policy - they don't know how to argue the point.
@nicholasavasthi9879
3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioArcturia While I agree that Progressives wouldn’t know messaging if it walked up and bit them in the bumb, I also don’t agree with your argument. We tried civil discourse under Obama, we tried explaining why they were wrong, and we lost the house and then we lost the senate. Same with Clinton. Then the Squad shows up and we win back the house, and one cycle later we win back the senate. I’m aware it’s far more complicated than what I just implied. No one thing can be pointed to for an election. However I also think that in today’s hyper partisan environment, having soundbites from progressives can be useful for mobilization. Especially of the Sanders crowd. We would probably have won in 2016 if we’d been able to persuade more Sanders voters to come out and vote. And since this method seems to have born success I’m reluctant to knock it.
@AudioArcturia
3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasavasthi9879 I'm not suggesting that discourse is the solution, I'm saying I hate voting for democrats - as a democrat - because democrats suck at being members of their own party. They eat their young, ostracize their own members for even the slightest ounce of doubt to their character (see Sen. Al Franken). Republican leadership in the last 3 months was Democratic leadership towards the end of Obama's second term. It's not a huge surprise Trump won. The democratic party will not miss an opportunity to fuck it up.
@nicholasavasthi9879
3 жыл бұрын
@@AudioArcturia I’m not sure we can reasonably blame the Squad for what happened with Al Franken. None of them were even in federal office when that went down. That was in 2017. The Squad were elected a year later. I’m a Minnesotan. Ilhan Omar and Al Franken are both from my state so I remember the timeline pretty well there.
@nicholasavasthi9879
3 жыл бұрын
@Javier Gonzalez I actually agree with you on a lot of points. Though I do think progressives are responsible for a lot of the youth turnout. Nonetheless in my state of Minnesota both the advantages and the issues of having outspoken progressives are readily apparent. On the one hand progressives drove up voter turnout in the Twin Cities, which was a large part of Biden’s margin. That high turnout can also be credited as the reasons for both Keith Ellison winning as AG in 2018 despite a scandal around his campaign, and Tina Smith’s senate victory in 2020, despite being a poor candidate for the DFL (that’s the local Democratic party). She’s from New Mexico and it shows. She ran a terrible campaign, badly turning off union voters up north, and running several points behind Biden, but due to high turnout in the Metro she still won her senate seat. On the flip side progressives can be blamed for the losses in the state house and state senate, as well as costing us 2 rural US house seats. “Defund the police” explicitly cost us votes in the suburbs and badly cost us in the farming regions, with several defeated incumbents specifically citing the police slogan as why they lost. Overall I’d say they’re a mixed bag. They drive up turnout from the base and attract younger voters, but they drive away more moderate voters.
@frankierodriguez4132
3 жыл бұрын
Rip Ron Silver
@Rensune
3 жыл бұрын
This Hits Both Democrats and Republicans. But whatever.
@orlandoalessandrini2505
2 жыл бұрын
Liberal : everything Bruno said they are.
@shinlanten
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much describe the current Dem establishment 👍👍
@primafacie5029
3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite scenes
@pauldockree9915
2 жыл бұрын
Take it to the bank. When I say stuff it is there to be found. Bruno on Sailboats next VT down? You have wasted so much of our time to reach to crock of.................
@NSMike87
Ай бұрын
Funny thing is, Ron Silver was a staunch conservative.
@JW-jl3jp
10 ай бұрын
Preach...GOP is crazy now
@jonv1776
8 ай бұрын
And this was 20 years ago. They have been crazy awhile. Lol
@donhello7522
4 ай бұрын
and the Dems arent?...and i quote, "soft on crime, soft on drugs, soft on communisn, tax u back to the stoneage...."...seems pretty bang on........and yes, GOP have their issues too
@pauldockree9915
Жыл бұрын
Polls Taken and No Basis for it? What wonderful writing.
@Sierraomega1991
3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Leo talking to Bartlett
@randy16us1
Жыл бұрын
Ron Silver had incredible delivery in every performance. You can literally hear the words drip out of him. He must be exhausted after certain diatribes. RIP brother. You did good.
@albertjester
3 жыл бұрын
It just me or is the golden horse statue in the background missing a leg?
@johnvillella1087
Ай бұрын
No more! HARRIS WALZ 24’
@passte
3 жыл бұрын
This is S03E07, not 06
@typacsk
2 жыл бұрын
I think we're seeing the end of it.
@1bendykat
2 жыл бұрын
This includes my favorite line in the series
@peytonrutledge4114
3 жыл бұрын
The old days ... :sigh:
@gerardhunt1890
3 ай бұрын
Bruno is the perfect example of why the system is broken. He helps the Democrats in this season, he helps the Republicans in the last season.
@daveward9785
3 ай бұрын
That was also a reflection of the actor who played him. Rob Silver had been a democrat in early seasons of the west wing but switched to republican after 9/11. You can kind of see why in this scene.
@valerierodger
23 күн бұрын
@@daveward9785no, he switched to _independent_ but supported Bush. He also voted for Obama.
@michaelreidperry3256
3 жыл бұрын
Are they allowed to discuss the campaign and campaign activities and business in the White House?
@xkevlar7x
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the candidate can.
@michaelschaefer1904
3 жыл бұрын
If it exists, when has that rule ever been enforced? The FEC is a cash-starved paper tiger.
@pauldockree9915
2 жыл бұрын
Education.
@rikcab
2 жыл бұрын
wow, well said.
@blindspott1060
2 жыл бұрын
Boy did those writers perfectly describe liberalism...particularly 2022 version.
@DomClancy
3 жыл бұрын
One hell of an actor he was
@jsebastianfilms
3 жыл бұрын
ironic
@jimmywest8684
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't Bruno go on to support Vinnick in the later seasons?
@CodaMission
3 жыл бұрын
Remember: two different writers
@Mikyda3
3 жыл бұрын
I love Bruno!!
@monsterhunter5403
3 ай бұрын
He described liberals to a T
@masterelmstreet5886
Ай бұрын
You're going to LOSE in November, little doggie. Get ready to weep!
@valerierodger
23 күн бұрын
He described both sides with equal accuracy
@ricksamericana749
3 жыл бұрын
The root of the argument Sam and Bruno are having is thw best way to spend donor's money. Typical of Lawrence O'Donnell and Aaron Sorkin to gloss over what this scene is really about.
@majipoorcat
3 жыл бұрын
The root of the argument is where the money was donated to. Different rules for different donations. I love the brilliance of Aaron and Lawrence to know the difference and get the most out of playing by the rules. And following those rules will get the president’s actual agenda further.
@Will043
3 жыл бұрын
If only Bruno saw the Democratic party today....
@Craig-ib7gk
2 жыл бұрын
Note to future political aspirants: You're not to *ever* mention schools or infrastructure without associating the adjective "crumbling". Beat that drum until the skin cracks. You'll find it in the playbook right along side the page foretelling when to use "unified" vs. "partisan" in talking points. (the former is to be used when describing the reason every single member of your party voted in one direction on an at-the-moment issue, the latter is to be used when every member of the opposition party does exactly the same thing).
@adburltv
3 жыл бұрын
lol I wonder if the writers forgot about this scene when they chose to make Bruno to be Vinick's campaign manager (republican)
@cmpunk61974
3 жыл бұрын
Vinnick was a completely different republican than what Bruno knew
@thebookwasbetter3650
3 жыл бұрын
Makes me happy that Republicans can get under Democrats skin so well. Usually we only hear about the other way around.
@bbaker4117
Жыл бұрын
It so easy to trigger the libs now, it's not worth the effort; but I do it anyways 😆😅🤣😂
@tstanley01
3 жыл бұрын
Then he goes on to run the campaign for Vinnick against a democrat...Bruno..the king of money talks and BS walks...
@CodaMission
3 жыл бұрын
Remember that those were two different writers
@JMT1985MO
8 ай бұрын
"We're both right, we're both wrong"-that's liberalism defined.
@valerierodger
23 күн бұрын
Wow, you really didn’t understand what he was saying
@jerryiverson1732
3 жыл бұрын
Typical hypocrisy. He's tired of being labeled by the stereotypes but then he labels the other side as homophobic and xenophobic.
@valerierodger
23 күн бұрын
Wow, you really didn’t understand what he was saying
@RaulieGonzo97
3 жыл бұрын
Sam’s attitude is exhausting
@RichardSteakums
3 жыл бұрын
By the time Sam left for Cali, I wasn’t sad to see him go. And I fully expected to hate Will Bailey when he came in, but he won me over pretty quickly.
@RaulieGonzo97
3 жыл бұрын
@@RichardSteakums Will loses me when he goes to work for Russell but he wins me back when he goes back to the WH
@RichardSteakums
3 жыл бұрын
@@RaulieGonzo97 yeah I agree with you there. I felt poor Toby’s betrayal in that moment. I get where Will was coming from, in a sense, but everyone could see Russell was not the guy.
@darkhorseash4337
3 жыл бұрын
This scene right here is why I always think him working for the Republicans in the later seasons is absurd
@xkevlar7x
3 жыл бұрын
I think Arnie being a California Republican is the only reason. He's not what I would call a typical Republican.
@deadskimountaineer
3 жыл бұрын
Arnie was a very different republican than the ones he is talking about.
@scottl9660
3 жыл бұрын
@@xkevlar7x Regan was a California Republican, Johnson was a Texas Democrat. The world has always been a strange place.
@darkhorseash4337
3 жыл бұрын
True but he was was a republican and while I certainly agree he was more liberal than most...I still don't think he was enough to match what Bruno says here
@majipoorcat
3 жыл бұрын
@@darkhorseash4337 he wasn’t a republican here. He was a Democrat. His change in season 5/6 reflected the doubts of the character as well as the fears of the actor and others like him. To bad the presidency of Bush just made things worse for the country and lead to the atrocious and appalling past four years. Both Bruno and Ron would’ve appalled.
@TheNerdForAllSeasons
3 ай бұрын
In case anyone is wondering, Bruno is what Democrats were before the party was invaded by Marxists in the 70s.
@patcostello7556
Жыл бұрын
This is Bruno on Democrats.
@vonn4017
3 жыл бұрын
gotta love how dems are holier than thou. kinda makes me sad to be american cos both sides have good ideas. too bad we cant have a 3rd party. call it cut the bullshit and lets get shit done party
@thegreenbaron6439
2 жыл бұрын
My how the tables have turned
@pjabrony8280
Жыл бұрын
I didn't know Al Pacino was in The West Wing.
@EchoTangoSuitcase
Жыл бұрын
Lordy... That is some HIGH QUALITY bullshit right there.
@ScottMartin-jk4bg
5 ай бұрын
You don't like truth do u
@EchoTangoSuitcase
5 ай бұрын
@@ScottMartin-jk4bg - I don't know. Why don't you tell some, and we'll see?
@valerierodger
23 күн бұрын
@@EchoTangoSuitcase here’s some inconvenient truth for you: The scene wasn’t bullshit and you’re just incapable of understanding
@EchoTangoSuitcase
22 күн бұрын
@@valerierodger - The SCENE is part of a TV show, and it showcased Tropes, not Truths. YOU, and people like you, are the ACTUAL source of the problem, because you turn real life human issues into caricatures that let you perpetuate a Yankees vs Red Sox view of politics.
@jimmy2k4o
2 жыл бұрын
So sick of that cheap “leave it to beaver” stereotype about conservatives. It’s such lazy straw man tactics and it’s double stupid when you observe that the side of politics trying to fight for free speech is the right and it’s the left trying to to censor and cancel people to avoid offending anybody. I wish the two sides would realise how similar they are and how much the want the same stuff broadly. Put aside the ego and agree on a compromise That pisses of the right for being too soft and losses of the left for being to hard. That’s how good politics is done. The “don’t ask don’t tell”
@typacsk
2 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. It's not the left who are literally burning books, or walking into white rural grocery stores and cutting loose with ARs. And if it hurts your little feelings to have that pointed out... good.
@finaoo1167
Жыл бұрын
@@typacsk - Did someone on the right burn some books recently?
@typacsk
Жыл бұрын
@@finaoo1167 Yes -- the most high-profile recent example was this February in Tennessee, but it hasn't been the only one lately
@finaoo1167
Жыл бұрын
@@typacsk - I think using rare and extreme examples of behavior on either end of the spectrum to define everyone who happens to be on the same side of center is not productive. 99.9% of conservatives do not burn or condone the burning of books. And no sane person on either side of the aisle would condone shooting up a grocery store. I expect there are some leftist groups and behaviors that you do not approve of.
@typacsk
Жыл бұрын
@@finaoo1167 I'm a Republican, not a leftist, so that's not really relevant.
@stephenmason9527
2 ай бұрын
Except that "liberal" does mean those exact things, now more than ever
@Sarcasmses
3 жыл бұрын
Sorkin loves his speeches, and the lack of self awareness in this one could knock me out a window. Bruno sings his discontent about liberals having been mislabelled as 'soft on crime, soft on defense, soft on communism, tax you back to the stone age,' then proceeds to *immediately* turn around and do the exact same thing to the other side by mislabelling conservatives as xenophobic, homophobic, anti-education, etc, as if the solution to misinformation is to spread more misinformation. It's this black-and-white, us-versus-them, you're with me or against me, ends justify the means, manichaean garbage that has crippled our national dialogue and here's Sorkin with more of it and comments to praise it.
@kraiden3
3 жыл бұрын
Being "conservative " is not wanting change or wanting things like how they "used to be" This country WAS by law and practice, xenophobic til 1970. I have cousins that couldnt go to normal schools, my mother couldn't go to normal college..all of that was LEGAL practice and it was just a few decades ago. The people who want to conserve that way of life by definition are xenophobic. I am saying this as a non Democrat before you put on a tin foil hat. But just look around, the insurrection last week , it was Washington DC, Baltimore and silver springs are the closest cities, 3 towns filled with minorities but none were at this event. Because the conservative idealology is by nature non inclusive. Not all conservatives are klansman and want to burn a cross on my mothers lawn. But it IS a mindset to be "conservative " and not to include NEW things......like people...and religion.... into the collective
@vmor13
3 жыл бұрын
@@kraiden3 incredibly well said.
@kythrathesuntamer9715
3 жыл бұрын
@@kraiden3 Yep, What they really are trying to "Conserve" is the america where all these fucking undesirables were excluded from everything. And BTW I use that term that someone who doesn't see them as undesirable I'm just putting their language back into saying what they won't
@Sarcasmses
3 жыл бұрын
@@kraiden3 Ok, I'll bite. "Conservative" and "liberal" are just terms. Your thinking is constrained by the two party system in which you have lived. You say that conservatism is by definition xenophobic and exclusionary and blame conservatives for enacting laws to those effects, which in your mind seems to have full-stopped in 1970. The country is still racially divided in law and practice to this day, and you don't need to go to rural Texas to see it. Some public schools in New York and Chicago are 95% black or white, in districts drawn by mayors and governors and city councils that are entirely controlled by democrats. Democrats so beholden to teachers' unions that they would sooner trap students in failing public schools than issue new school charters that could create competition to the interests that support them. That doesn't sound very "liberal" to me. "Conservative" doesn't mean resistant to change any more than "liberal" means favoring liberty, or soft on crime, soft on drugs, soft on communism, as Bruno caricatures. Both of these terms have the same origin and once referred to the same concept: conservativism referred to the conservation of individual economic liberty through checks and balances on a small government, while liberalism referred to the preservation of economic and individual liberty through law that restricted government power to intervene in private life. It wasn't until Cold War times that these terms became politically adversarial as they are today, and to continue to view them that way, as you do, is to keep that Cold War, us vs. them mentality alive and well. Maybe you want to live in that kind of country, but I don't. It's what has brought us to the place we are in now, with fanatics storming the capital and rioters burning city blocks. That was my point against Bruno's speech in this video: the answer to extremism and misinformation is not more extremism and misinformation. The idea that "conservative" is a label for people who are scared of change and just "want things like how they used to be," as you say, is an effective political myth for dividing voters and making it easy to rally tens of millions of voters in an election year. Elections are a massive undertaking and it is impossible for one candidate to fulfill the needs of the 100+ million voters in each general election. So, we create myths like those you are buying into: simple slogans like "yes we can" and "change we can believe in" are nice sayings that play into the idea that one party is fighting the party that says "no" and doesn't believe in change, while saying nothing of substance about policy or politics. It's actually interesting as it directly relates to this video, and you are doing exactly what Bruno is attacking - generalizing the thoughts of millions of people into a few misleading or false phrases and terms. I don't like generalizing, lying or misleading, I like the truth. That's why my original comment is attacking Sorkin's "fire with fire" point here - Sorkin's argument that the way to fight misinformation about yourself is to spread misinformation about those who are attacking you. All that does is escalate, and that is exactly how our country has ended up where it is in 2021 with angry meme-mobs attacking our seat of government. It is interesting to see your blindspot, that you see some QAnon extremists who attacked the capital as the generalized manifestation of conservatism run wild, yet make no mention of the mobs that have been raiding Portland, New York, Chicago, and other liberal cities for six months, burning the cars of average people who had nothing to do with their cause, destroying the businesses of their fellow citizens who bring wealth to their neighborhoods, and invading destroying local, state and federal property on a city-wide scale. If I were of a simpler mind I might be inclined to generalize those protests as the expression of all things liberal and democrat. But I don't. I see the rage that drives those protests as similar to the rage that Bruno expresses in this clip - originating in a place of good intention, but expressed in a way that is so unrestrained and primal that it ends up perverting its original intention. "Conservative" and "liberal" are just terms, just words. You say that conservatism is by definition exclusionary; I would like to hear you tell that to some of the millions of latinos that voted for Trump and listen to some of those responses. Your generalized view of conservatism offers no explanation as to how the 4-year president of this "exclusionary" ideology took in more black, hispanic, asian, and female voters in 2020 than 2016, but fewer white male votes - that is, after 4 years of rule, this ideology secured *more* support from the groups it supposedly excludes than it had before, and *lost* support from the people it supposedly favors. If you think you can describe the thoughts and political aspirations of 75 million people in one word, one event, one phrase that someone else told to you, then you're just as thoughtlessly resistant to change as the xenophobes you dislike. As a postscript, you say you are no democrat, and I am no republican. I despise Trump and am disinterested in Biden. Personally, I refused to cast a vote at all in 2020 as I cannot in good conscience participate in a voting system that ended up with these two zeroes as our candidates for president. At the same time, I'm interested enough in learning about today's ideological shifts that I'm willing to read about them without reading my own biases into them. edit: the election was last year and last year was 2020 not 2019...my brain is mentally still in 2020.
@Nephlyte348
3 жыл бұрын
@@Sarcasmses We have a system that forces us into a binary decision structure. You can't boil down all possible belief into two buckets. You can believe in small government and still believe in civil rights. You can support free enterprise and still think black lives matter. These things aren't mutually exclusive. And not to mention the fact that if we really looked at the math on a "one person-one vote" basis, I imagine results would look a lot different in a lot of places. There was always only ever going to be this division, particularly as the two parties have grown further apart in terms of diversity (at all levels/meanings/understandings of that term). Historically, both parties were very male and very white. They may have disagreed but on the whole there was mostly parity to be found somewhere in their common, shared identity. Unless we have a system that has some way to acknowledge differences and nuances among viewpoints, polices, demographics, geographies etc., and maybe even opens the door to more parties, can't see how we're ever going to have anything different than what we have currently. Just like it's politically out of the question for most democrats to be against "de-funding the police," it's just as out of the question for Republicans to disavow many of the things some consider bad (such as domestic terrorism) that surround the fringes of their parties. We expect politicians to be saints in the Legislative Chamber then turnaround and be hate-spewing demagogues on the campaign trail and wonder why they spend a whole lot of time getting nothing done.
@BSCTrainerRob
2 жыл бұрын
'Because people shouldn't have to go to work if they don't want to' ---used to be a parody of democrats... in walks AOC
@mashah1085
2 жыл бұрын
Can you QUOTE her saying that? $1000 says you can't.
@typacsk
2 жыл бұрын
AOC, one of the only members of Congress who worked a real job before getting elected? Yeah, try again.
@BSCTrainerRob
Жыл бұрын
@@mashah1085 it was in her green new deal rollout. She said "an intern had a very bad day and let this draft out prematurely" but a final draft was never given. They clearly lied and threw a staffer under the bus for their nonsense but im glad you agree that paying people who dont want to work is ridiculous.
@mashah1085
Жыл бұрын
@@BSCTrainerRob Since the 1800s, conservatives have claimed that there are "millions" who "don't want to work" and objected to even most modest amount of Government aid to the poor. Ironically, these days, the majority of places on welfare....are the Red States.
@BSCTrainerRob
Жыл бұрын
@@mashah1085 the point isn't that there are millions who don't want to work. The point is that AOC apparently wanted to pay or at least she wanted to float the idea politically of paying people who don't want to work. And the evidence of this is in the leaking of that GND document then her office blaming it on a staffer but never offering the correction or update to the language. It's an egregious position I hope you agree
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