They 100% perform their early work unironically. For one thing, it's damned good. For another, they are still hip hop to their core. They cringe at their young selves and their early styling, as most of us do, but not the music. I hate that people think they used to be hip hop and now they're not. That's just not true. BTS continually grow and expand as artists, but they never abandoned hip hop as a strong core of their artistic identity, and they have hip hop and hard rap tracks on just about every group album.
@jangray3419
2 ай бұрын
People may have said this in the live chat, but I think the reason BTS has been able to transcend KPOP is because of the fact that they were shut out of the traditional ways to succeed in that industry. Since they could not get fair treatment or a chance from the tightly controlled K media (music, TV, variety shows) because the big 3 controlled all, thy=ey were forced to go outside their "mainstream" and in doing so both found not traditional KPOP fans and broadened their own experiences to make them better, more relevant artists. And the difference between the more "manufactured" style of traditional KPOP (where performers get little say in what or how they perform) and BTS writing their own music and lyrics (the rappers, especially RM, has input on every single song--hiphop, rap, ballad, all of it) was absolutely necessary for a group to break in the West. PD Bang was smart enough to recognize that---along with the extraordinary talent he had gathered into BTS.
@raraluv8473
2 ай бұрын
they do perform their old songs, title medley performance on sbs 2018 back then, MAMA 2019, they even do their intro performance from 2014 on their MOTS concert
@AlexaOleksa
2 ай бұрын
24:24 i am only BTS army, i don't really listen to other kpop groups at all, but i never wished on them struggles bts had, the accusations they faced, defamation campaigns etc. Most armys really appreciate when younger artists say bts are their role models, do covers etc. (there are always bad apples, but it is same in every fandom though) The only things that irk us are: blatant disregard of BTS i fluence on kpop success, and blatant mediaplay to coattail bts like "next bts" headlines etc
@AlexaOleksa
2 ай бұрын
24:56 army don't have problem if anyone doesn't like particular song, as long as they are respectful. Somehow often if people don't like song they shit on it, and respectfulness often is alien concept "it's not particularly my style of music i lsten to but..."
@AlexaOleksa
2 ай бұрын
22:23 no, sorry i don't understand people who hate bts for success. To hate someone for success they achieved with their hard work is such a losser behaviour. Especially when it's not BTS's fault other groups don't succeed. As famously Suga said in his songs: you think my success is reason for you failure? Pathetic...
@AudioAddictionmedia
2 ай бұрын
let's spread love, not hate mmkay? -therese
@AudioAddictionmedia
2 ай бұрын
I think you might be overanalyzing my response, I don't approve of calling people "pathetic" just because they're human and experiencing something different from army, who have been blessed to see the growth BTS has. I've said the same response to many haters of BTS, but i don't like to see army stoop to the same level. -therese
@gloss39
2 ай бұрын
42:57 Just a lil piece of trivia for those who don't know, We Are Bulletproof Pt.1 is an unofficial track released in 2010 by the initial lineup of BTS (which was called Bulletproof Boys or B.P.B. back then) - RM, Iron and Supreme Boi. It was later re-released on Soundcloud by the current BTS members in 2015, with only Namjoon's verse from the original version retained. Yoongi also re-used his verse here in WAB Pt.1 in his solo track Agust D which he released a year later. This is the original version by B.P.B. : kzitem.info/news/bejne/w6unmGiXkGp3h4Ysi=pPEboOT9SWTS8GCS And this is the 2015 version by BTS: kzitem.info/news/bejne/04yw2KaEeoxijYosi=H2B-t_lJFk1VqKTQ
@KOOLICIOUSFACECARD
2 ай бұрын
To @Pennybleta2224 during the N.O reaction who said "This was their first social commentary song", that user clearly was NOT paying attention to the lyrics of No More Dream, even We Are Bulletproof Pt.2 had Social Commentary in it 😭😭 I'm going to try to join the your guys' next live because I realize that the people in your comments tend to say a lot of misinformation
@Nnaekki
2 ай бұрын
I try not to read the chat when I'm watching because there are a lot of questionable, brow-raising comments
@sc33h3o3
2 ай бұрын
@@pennybleta2300to say misinformation doesn't mean any negative intention is being implied
@ebony7177
2 ай бұрын
22:22 I will never understand hate against another group, especially one who you know struggled the way you think your group is struggling. What does that solve? How is that helping your group to thrive by hating on another group. Also, you're talking early days and that hate wasn't justified during those days but it existed. After 2017-18 I don't get it but it's more understandable in a way because people are jealous of success. But in the beginning that wasn't there. BTS had groups left and right looking down on them. I believe it was Bobby from Ikon after he tried to diss BTS and Namjoon responded, he was asked why didn't he try this against the rappers of like exo or other bigger groups than BTS (which in rap you usually start battles with rappers on the same foot as you, punching down isn't respected). He said it would have been dangerous to do that. Showing that he knew he could do it without repercussions against BTS because they weren't and still aren't from an agency that the media/music industry backs. Another thing to remember: quite a large portion of ARMY don't listen to kpop. Many of us have tried it, maybe liked a song or two but it's not our thing. BTS grew as big as they did partially because they DON'T sound like much of kpop.
@marinal.
2 ай бұрын
exactly
@denisedellasantina1643
2 ай бұрын
Smol BTS is so fire! It’s just the styling that’s hard to swallow. 😆
@AudioAddictionmedia
2 ай бұрын
the RM glasses and hobi face masks were QUITE the look haha -therese
@onenottwoorthree
2 ай бұрын
Am mostly listening and can barely see the live commentary, so I don't know if someone commented, but I think the latest we are bulletproof pt 2 performance was in the online mots on:e concert (rock arrangement 👍 but no dance break) and the last time they did the full dance break was the 2019 MAMA special stage (there's a bangtan bomb for this and they also performed N.O) One of the best things about watching bts over the years is how they pull out their old songs over the years and you see them perform them with even more stage experience.
@MewDenise
2 ай бұрын
Their recent performances of No More Dream are actually awesome
@QueensThief76455
2 ай бұрын
You really understand how good these songs are when BTS performs them later. My favorite is the Magic Shop 5th Muster performance of No More Dream/ We Are Bullet Proof/N.O. . Also, if you understand the lyrics and cultural/social context.
@sktyuen
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for uploading this. Love it when people are introduced to early BTS.
@AudioAddictionmedia
2 ай бұрын
same haha it could go any which way for some people but thankfully Brandon has heard some other earlier groups to contextualize the sound in -therese
@BTSdesiderata1
2 ай бұрын
Big Hit had 10 employees when BTS was being formed.
@shantigomja985
2 ай бұрын
Anything about bts I’m there I loved it please keep going ❤❤❤
@AudioAddictionmedia
2 ай бұрын
💜💜 we'll keep it going 💪🏽
@silviamunoz6863
2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I missed the livestream 😢 thanks for posting it! I met you a couple of weeks ago, and i confess I love your BTS reactions! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
@rosedawg7895
Ай бұрын
Did anyone realise the beginning music of No More Dreams is the original We are Bullet Proof?? I think it’s when they are introducing the guys. The background to that is part of the original bullet proof song…
@revira5116
2 ай бұрын
Oh my god. I remember when No more Dream premiered. I saw it by accident on KZitem. I didn't know k-pop at all (although I knew a few Big Bang songs), I didn't know what the song was about (because there was no translation back then), I didn't know what the hell BTS was. But I was in love. Also, back then I thought their looks were so cool. It's funny now. Times change.💜
@applesaikhao8013
2 ай бұрын
Thanks you guys 🙏🏻 I love bts ❤ BTS forever 🫶🏻💜
@ailaudy4036
2 ай бұрын
I don’t like the recent guide … I watched it but stopped midway. Couldn’t finish it. Fiund it all other the place and not structured to help people to learn about BTS
@marinal.
2 ай бұрын
which one did u not like Taylor's Guide? There is a new guide that's like 3 hrs long by a new channel on here. I like it its very thorough. A LONG AND HELPFUL GUIDE TO BTS (2024) by Purple Snow kzitem.info/news/bejne/pKSozqaDf4aan4o
@bookjeon7937
2 ай бұрын
N.O was my fav from their debut era The concept thriller are so cool too..
@SpringPetrichor-et8sq
2 ай бұрын
The thing is these songs are made by teenagers, so defnitely that will be cringe to grown ups, evn BTS themselves find it cringe. But that's y they arre different, bcz their music was their life, their stories, stories of any normal 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 yrs olds... so are their all other songs, at every stage of life,their songs absorbed emotions and thoughts of normal boy at that age.. that's y we can relate to them. ARMYs grew with them and their songs.
@marinal.
2 ай бұрын
Hi, i am back. Good reaction, ty. No More Dream is good. catchy. They had 5-10 staff in 2013 only. We are Bulletproof pt.2. is good. N.O. is a fav. Love the MV and song. I never saw hints of it as baby army. I think i finally saw it maybe my 2nd year in. I started seeing hints but did not know song name. Finally found song name and i looked it up ASAP. Loved the all white fits and their msg. Borahae. -NY USA 2019 Army💟
@dipsiumai
2 ай бұрын
Happy festa 💜
@riteshsenpai6572
2 ай бұрын
BTS >>>>>>
@CowsRdumb
2 ай бұрын
BTS is hip hop so i didn't understand that kids at play comment. Feels like y'all were just laughing at them. But I'll let it go...
@marinal.
2 ай бұрын
Debut BTS to many is acting all tough manly but its kids at play acting. Hope u get my explanation. They are not laughing at BTS they are laughing at how silly the young BTS were. Some laugh and its ok. Many think its cringe. Whatever. I love the debut songs. They catchy.
@AudioAddictionmedia
2 ай бұрын
yeah, ngl we did laugh but the intention behind it was to laugh WITH bts, the same way you laugh with your friends at old pictures from school days. it wasn't to make fun of them, it was to reflect on how much they've grown since they were rookies at this time. -therese
@marinal.
2 ай бұрын
@@AudioAddictionmedia agreed
@MewDenise
2 ай бұрын
Yeah their debut stylist was not it
@aniaheavens7324
2 ай бұрын
Anyway multis 🙄
@AudioAddictionmedia
2 ай бұрын
and? -therese
@yourbibillyhills
2 ай бұрын
32:49 that commentary from youthfuleagle 😐 what do you mean "we went from this to dynamite. What happened?" Stfu🫵 they released dynamite to cheer us up during the pandemic. In 2020, they should've gone on the biggest world tour and then enlisted in the military, but all the plans got pushed back and canceled. Then dyna and BE album were born in 2020, helping us get through the pandemic
@AlexaOleksa
2 ай бұрын
Fr, people talk shit like this as if they are themselves are same as they were 10 years ago.
@yourbibillyhills
2 ай бұрын
@AlexaOleksa watching a few videos of this channel, I noticed that user sometimes say something that makes me go "wtf are you talking about just shut up, please"
@Kookiepookie2025
2 ай бұрын
Multis will always be multis
@luonlinee
2 ай бұрын
why tf are you being so fucking harsh is just an observation lol... I am army and I understood his comment. we as fans who know their discography know that their music evolved over time but he's just getting to know it now! if you only have dynamite to compare with their rookie music it is a BIG difference of concept and sound. bts is not the mistreated group they were during rookie years anymore there's no need to defend them so harshly in this regard, you're not doing them a favour by doing that, you're only discouraging people from getting to know them. if you want to be that rude, put this energy on the main media and journalism that is treat them like shit, not small KZitem channels...
@yourbibillyhills
2 ай бұрын
@@luonlinee I'm not talking about the reactors. I'm talking about the one in the chat, user youthfuleagle
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