I’ve climbed SRS with 8mm sterling OpLux rope. Using a micro pulley with 5mm sterling RIT (tied in a Michoacán). Tend the pulley and hitch with a neck lanyard. Used foot ascender coupled with a knee ascender. This is for the ascent only and is pretty minimalist for SRT. Obviously cannot descend on the Michoacán hitch alone so you must incorporate either a munter hitch or figure 8 descender when rappelling. But you don’t have to untie the Michoacán ever. You can use almost the entire length of rope using a canopy hitch (use paracord to retrieve). I’ve heard of people even using amsteel for half the rope and OpLux on the other... and using a basal anchor.
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
Dooood. This is is my kind of minimalism. Pinned cuz it is exactly what I am looking for: fast (rope walking), ultra light (8mm and amsteel!), and relatively cheap (no expensive ascenders like the RopeRunner). I wonder if you could replace the knee ascender with a Wild Country Rope Man and a dyneema foot loop. You could advance it with your hand as you lift your leg then swing the other leg up on the foot ascender. Brilliant.
@nicod1886
3 жыл бұрын
@@TREEfool Awesome, thanks! I think that would work, yes! I don’t believe the ropeman 1 is rated for such a thin rope but I think the ropeman 2 is. I love my CT Roll-n-Lock because it’s rated for a large range of rope diameters and it also bites down on the rope better (without damaging it).
@sensorpixel
3 жыл бұрын
Man, that last point though... 🙈 @TREEfool Have you considered using a chest ascender for easier ascent? I.e. add a Petzl Croll S (85 g/8-11 mm rope) to your harnesses ventral attachment point and have a lightweight shoulder strap for tending it. In conjunction with the hand ascender+foot loop this is the standard method of ascent in rope access. If you wanted to, you could event add a foot ascender. And while I haven't used it myself for tree climbing I'm strongly considering it for the exact reasons you mentioned. Only drawback is that you have to remove your GriGri from the line when going into ascent. For added safety you should therefore add a short lanyard connecting your hand ascender to your harness which catches you if you manage to install the GriGri incorrectly when switching to descent by unclipping from the Croll and sitting back into the previously unweighted GriGri. Big benefit of the whole thing is that you basically can continue using RADS, only moving away from it for long ascents.
@camdenhuffman3
2 жыл бұрын
@treefool did you try this setup with your thoughts on modification- I would love to see a video on how-to
@KeithGyarmati
2 жыл бұрын
So stoked to have landed on your channel.. im the last year i have been looking at taking my hammock camping into higher levels.
@stavrosdritsas1169
3 жыл бұрын
hello there ... i keep an eye on your channel for long time and i got to say you are more than helpful with your ideas. in Greece i think nobody apart from myself is thinking of tree camping. maybe the trees are short!! hahaha... I practice a lot with all kind of gear but as you say it has to be light weight. all together with ladge and gear have to be like 4 kg. these days I'm using drt system of 20 meters of 8mm rope with only an eye to eye prussik cord of 8mm and a micro pulley. plus a very light weight foot acsender by petzl. quit fast acsend and easy descend. also a very light harness for ski touring. there are a lot more details though to discuss since you are opening a big topic here.... jajaja.... keep up .. your are super!!!
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
Greece? Hello from the US! I have a few questions, 8mm rope! That is tiny! I love it. But 20m length drt means you aren't climbing higher than 10m correct? Do you ever wish you had more rope?
@stavrosdritsas1169
3 жыл бұрын
@@TREEfool hahaha... told you.... short trees... hahaha...... thenk you so much for replying.... well , this is why i said that you start a big topic here... in any case 8mm is strong enought and only 41gr/meter. some times a make a anchor on 10m hight and throw the line to higher limps as you tought us in an early video of yours.! then if i need to descent from higher anchors i make it srt with an 8 figure plate or a double prussik way. I use it most of the times for setling a hammok so there is no need for going higher than 10m... at least from my point of view.
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
@@stavrosdritsas1169 hey no worries man! I am psyched even climbing 2 meters with my son. you don't have to climb high to have fun. I was just curious if you guys only have short trees over in Greece? Right now where I live most trees are very short unless I can find an old growth grove near a river.
@PiongYang99
Жыл бұрын
Hitchhiker xf, works with 8-13mm rope, half way between mechanical and prussic, supports rope walking on a single rope and also quick switch to doubled rope. Very happy with mine
@brandnewman4943
3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to what you discover as a new minimalist climbing system!
@evanbarnes9984
3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Love seeing you use the drill with your son. My job is using tools with kids, and it's always great to see other people doing that too! It lays a great foundation for their future sense of what they can do and how capable they can be
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Now, when I am working on literally anything he comes and asks me how he can help. Eventually he will want nothing to do with me so I take every opportunity I can get with him!
@notquiteultralight1701
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Logan! One can climb on a split tail and a blake hitch. Simple, low tech and requires a 6 ft piece of climbing rope, which is the split tail. The split tail is snapped onto your saddle with either triple action tree work snaps or triple action carabiners. The life line is established like you did with the rads. Throwline yada yada. The end of the life line is attached at the same place as the split tail on your saddle. The split tail is tied with a blake hitch to the life line and the climber does a variation of a footlock called a granny lock, but you’re doing what you should be doing which is using larger muscle groups to ascend. The blake hitch is your friction knot acting like a taut line hitch but easier to work with than a taut line. Of course the life line is a 100 ft line or 150 ft whatever you want. The life line is tied with a Yosemite bowline to your saddle. It’s one way to do it. I’m sure your tree forums folks have talked about this method. I wish you a happy winter solstice!
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
They didn't mention it since I last checked the forum so thank you for the fantastic explanation. The blake's hitch is something I have talked about but never personally tried yet. Thanks so much!
@notquiteultralight1701
3 жыл бұрын
@@TREEfool 👍🏼🙂
@nathanlee1002
3 жыл бұрын
The fastest way up is to climb the tree with 2 lanyards. Maybe spurs too. But this isn’t always possible. Love ur videos ✅
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it!
@brianrodman1033
Жыл бұрын
Maybe a frog system like cavers use. Works incredibly well on free hanging ropes.
@luciusfox8567
3 жыл бұрын
Dude, I got you. You inspired me to get into this with your videos and I had the same need. I arrived at a technique that I double a 9mm rope over the branch and tie it normally like SRT. but then I climb both ends using minimalist gear. Google Petzl's "ascess on doubled rope with the zigzag" technique and imagine replacing the ascentree with 2 wild country ropemen (sp?) + a petzl Omni Carabiner; replace the zigzag with a grigri, replace the petzl pantin with 2 Notch Jetsteps. The only disadvantages are that this is an advanced technique and emergency descent requires you to have a second line in addition to your lanyard. The advantages are great however and the second line is often available to be carried by another member on your team. But the advantages outweigh this; the gear is small, your ascent is very fast, you can convert the ascess line into a haul system or take it up with you, and the notch jetstep replaces the footloop on a RADS setup quite nicely. I think you'll love the technique, it is my go to now.
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
i'd like to see a vid on this!
@luciusfox8567
3 жыл бұрын
@@TREEfool can do, email me @ youluckyfox @gmail if interested.
@reinbruynseraede8482
3 жыл бұрын
You could use two hand ascenders/jumars with two footloops attached to it to ascent and descent With a grigri
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
This makes me envision those long haired blonde swedish twins who tried to break the record climbing up half dome 😊
@tomasandersen367
3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for another good video, Treefool ;-)
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@kyleriordan3128
2 жыл бұрын
You should look into the taz lov2 and 3, you can use them in a ropewalker setup but it descends like a grigri
@TREEfool
2 жыл бұрын
Haven't heard of it. Thank you!!!!
@thecanopyclimber
3 жыл бұрын
So excited to see your final ledge!!! As far as climbing systems go, have you looked into DRT systems and techniques? Maybe look into the hitch climber pulley set up and see if it inspires you! 🤘🏻
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
I've been SRT from the beginning aside from a few positioning techniques with a long lanyard. Another gentlemen also recommended I check out the hitch climber and it did indeed inspire some ideas. Thank you!!!
@thecanopyclimber
3 жыл бұрын
@@TREEfool awesome!! Can’t wait to see what you come up with! Good luck and stay safe!
@sendit2873
2 жыл бұрын
hope all is well for you and your family when can we see more new videos?
@janrie7330
3 жыл бұрын
I already said it on the Treebuzz but if you can get the RopeWrench to work with 9mm Rope that's going to be the ultimate ultralight setup.
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jan! The RopeWrench is definitely at the top of my list. I should just pull the trigger and buy one cuz I loved using it.
@webbimato
3 жыл бұрын
Damn really? Haven't tried anything else than 11,7mm xstatic yet. Not sure if I have thin enough friction cord to try some thinner ropes. 10,5mm is my next thickest. I moved to ropewrench and full tree harness (sequoia srt) and have been thinking how to mix my other ropes in. Xstatic is awesome but 45 meters of it weights just so so so so so much. Previously I used my rope access stuff for tree fooling. Petzl croll with chest harness (knee ascender and pantin included) is very nice way to get up there but there's always the hassle to descent. Well not a big deal to connect Rig or sometimes grigri but what if you wanted to ascent again. There's always RADs but seriously I'd rather just use knife and end it all because at least that would be RAPID. With rope wrench you can go up and down and up and down and just fool around. Have fun some could say.
@janrie7330
3 жыл бұрын
@@webbimato You can push it to 10mm with 8mm cord quite easily, I wouldn't say it runs smoothly though, bigger ropes are definitely better. 9mm requires modification of the slic pin and thinner hitch cord IMO, somehow you can surely make it work though.
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
@@webbimato I'm dying at your RADS joke. Hahaha! That was my plan, switch from the micro frog setup to a rads setup once I reach my tip. You have me second guessing it now though haha.
@ABIDEOUTDOORS
3 жыл бұрын
Here’s an idea (probably a dumb one): What if you could find a way to implement the frame from a frame back into the design so your not bringing in extra unnecessary gear but you still have something solid/ structured to work with?
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand. Do you mean use part of a frame from an older portaledge to help spread out the new design?
@ABIDEOUTDOORS
3 жыл бұрын
@@TREEfool haha I had a hard time typing out what I was trying to say. More so implement the frame pack into the frame of your porta ledge (if possible). Mostly an attempt to just be resourceful and reduce weight. The frame pack doesn’t offer much but it’s something solid you could work into the design. No real idea on how. Just a thought.
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
@@ABIDEOUTDOORS ahhh hell yes! that is thinking outside the box. I love it.
@GarryNichols
3 жыл бұрын
I like it, but doubt your choices of colors on fabric. haha camo straps with bright red.
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
HAHA! I searched through my fabric bin and chose the colors that I was least likely to use on the finished product :)
@chrishall8203
3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever figure out how to get the poles in your bat hammock to stay in? TKS Been watching you for years.
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
I used a piece of ducttape and tied a cord loop to each pole. I connected the loop to the hammock webbing so that if they popped out they at least wouldn't fall to the ground. I usually just carried 4 though and left the foot end of the hammock without any poles.
@chrishall8203
3 жыл бұрын
@@TREEfool I bought mine years ago and was never really satisfied. I have since retired and will soon be in the trees again. I was thinking of your new project. You will need some sort of support for it to function without smashing you. Maybe if you design a backpack that is light and you use the support system of the backpack for your new hammock. Will give it more thought.
@swedeson6188
3 жыл бұрын
I use the RAD-system and as a newbie it works great for me, my gear is a based on a Grigri and a Petzl Ascender. But i dont have a climbing friend, i usualy "force" my lady to come with me to the woods as a safety in case something happens. What is your oppinion, how safe is it, and am im to senstive for being afraid of climbing alone?
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
No way, you can never be too safe... I mean, you can, by never leaving your house, I digress... I mostly climb solo and keep my phone on me. If I drop my rope or do something stupid I can call for help. But there is always the chance that you could fall and not be able to call for help in which case you could die. But by following the rules of safe tree climbing you have a good chance of being a-ok. It's up to you and your comfort level. Noone can tell you if it is safe or not but YOU.
@swedeson6188
3 жыл бұрын
@@TREEfool Thank you for your answer. I see many on youtube that climbs alone so it should be okay if i have my phone with me. My favorite place to climb is a park where people usually taking walks and of course so is safety first. When it get warmer outside i will be climbing alone.
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
@@swedeson6188 ah yes! climb where there is a bunch of people and your problem is solved. great idea.
@stephenlawlor211
3 жыл бұрын
Many famous cottage industries started this way !! The micro frog is tiny and light ! Some yt vids on it !
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
I hope this doesn't make me sound weirder than I already am but your comment made me giggle with excitement. THANK YOU :D
@stephenlawlor211
3 жыл бұрын
@@TREEfool Keep up the good work and family balance !
@Guillermox-sk1vg
3 жыл бұрын
I would run two prussiks. One leg loop and one harness loop. Super cheap, super fast, and super easy.
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the idea!
@adamwilson1362
3 жыл бұрын
I want to buy the first one if u start producing them and look into the hitch climber system or just go with the rope wrench... I climb on the zig zag mostly but ive got the rope wrench as a secondary climbing system on a captain hook . But with the hitch climber system u can climb on just about any size rope u just got to tie the right hitch for that rope and it would be very lightweight... Hope this helps have a blessed day !
@wtfwhereami
3 жыл бұрын
Yea, I really only use a Blake’s and a pulley. Lots of foot locking. I can ascend fairly quickly, but I need to come up with a quicker (safe) descent system.
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
Adam after I put the portaledge through some proper torcher testing I will absolutely let you know when they become available. Also thanks for the hitch climber recommendation. It sent me down a KZitem tree ascension path that taught me a bunch of stuff I hadn't seen before!
@adamwilson1362
3 жыл бұрын
Ur very welcome glad I could help be safe and climb high my friend
@wtfwhereami
3 жыл бұрын
I want to do more climbing, but I live in a rainforest basically 😭😭😭
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
Climbing in the rain is awesome. Tree camping in the rain is extremely difficult. Go get your climb on and wait for the sun to shine to go camping (or camp in the rain, cuz humans are waterproof).
@wtfwhereami
3 жыл бұрын
@@TREEfool I normally would, but the gear I currently have to work with isn’t very water resistant. It also sucks to have your Blake’s hitch dump all the water on your lap. Lol.
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
@@wtfwhereami Like a squeegee! Haha, it must rain ALOT then if your blakes hitch creates a second waterfall when rappelling.
@wtfwhereami
3 жыл бұрын
@@TREEfool I live on the Oregon coast haha it rains most of the year. Proper rain gear is essential to enjoying the outdoors.
@ThePhillipnielsen
3 жыл бұрын
Please sell this porta(some Thing)
@TREEfool
3 жыл бұрын
That is my goal!
@bredlify3079
Ай бұрын
@@TREEfool Any updates on the ultralight portabledge? :)
@TREEfool
Ай бұрын
@@bredlify3079 yup, my idea was stolen buy a small climbing company that got their product to market before I could. That is what I get for showing my designs on KZitem I suppose. Please purchase from them (I can't seem to find their website) as I do not have them available for sale.
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