It will be sad to see the old V sets go. They've long been my favourite train of the Sydney system. For what they lack in modern conveniences, they make up for in sheer character.
@st3pn56
6 ай бұрын
still more comfortable than the waratahs in my opinion. cushy leather seats, the backrests are also taller for tall folks (or more privacy from the people behind for us shorter folk).
@hyooon9504
6 ай бұрын
Agree. This train could bring me back to my past, allow to remember many memories, which would be over when this goes.
@Theguythatrecordstrains
5 ай бұрын
😢 I wish it wasn’t old
@Aohalm
6 ай бұрын
The seat flipping to adjust for the direction is such a clever design!
@yaush_
6 ай бұрын
There is the same thing on NJT trains and I was astounded when I figured the out
@doubledee9675
6 ай бұрын
It's been a standard feature of all Sydney trains (save for the early Tangaras) for many years. The attempt to do away with them on the Tangaras drew considerable criticism from the travelling public - a hasty and unapologetic retreat was beaten.
@samtrak1204
6 ай бұрын
Seat flipping has been around since the 1800's.@@yaush_
@SirRamone
6 ай бұрын
And guess what the new trains they spent too much money on dont have that.
@igorsiuda8108
6 ай бұрын
It can be found also in other NSW Trains' trainsets, as all other trains are also following their double-decker train tradition, e.g. Tangara from 1980's and 1990's, Waratah (newest, from 2010's and 2020s) and Millennium Train from 2000's.
@kevindavies189
6 ай бұрын
I used to get these kinds of trains from Kiama to Sydney frequently. They were the most comfortable. Some of the smoothest operating trains to this day, and the ledges on the window and near the ground made the ultimate foot and arm rests.
@estelleobrien7969
6 ай бұрын
As a proud mountain resident I say that these are the most comfy seats ever put in Sydney public transport ❤
@zubinix
3 ай бұрын
Absolutely and such a quiet and smooth ride too.
@ph89787
6 ай бұрын
My dad described these trains as ordering a Commadore and receiving a Statesman.
@Randomsydneytrains
6 ай бұрын
9:04-9:07 “luckily they don’t have much time left in service anymore” LUCKILY?? How could you not like the v sets lol, I’m gonna miss em 🥲
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
I can like them from an enthusiasts perspective, the seats are good and they have character. But c'mon they lack just about every amenity any average non enthusiast traveler would expect. Proper accessiblily, wayfinding screens, power, wifi, audible announcements etc
@Randomsydneytrains
6 ай бұрын
I know lol, of course that wether your a tourist or you grew up in Australia you will have a different perspective on v sets, and that with our changing society we need to keep our trains up to standard, but I totally understand your point from a tourist perspective, it’s just to us that have grown up with em, it’s quite sad the see em go.
@Reaper1770
6 ай бұрын
@@Simon-Andersenyou would be suprised how much love the public love these trains, to most people things like tray tables and chargers as a nice touch but a bonus. Most importantly is it comfortable and being able to fall asleep on the way to work. Most people who take these trains are people who travel close to an hour or more. Most just want to sleep or happy with just being on the phone.
@Topher5035
6 ай бұрын
Properly cold air con, 2+2 seating, thickly padded seats facing the direction of travel, closing vestibule doors with a quiet ride. You dont get much of that on any new Sydney train. For a two hour journey I don’t need a charging port, or a tray table or an overhead bin or destination board. I know if my train is on time based on when I get to Springwood, Hazlebrook or Wentworth Falls and I know when to get out. As far as journey comforts go the least comfortable thing is the choppy motor controls and the lurching couplers, but that is not a huge problem. You have to ask what really matters to a regular long distance commuter and its not most of the items on an enthusiasts tick the box list.
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
@@Topher5035 I don't think the seats are going to be that bad. They look like the ones we have in Europe for similar journeys, which is okay, but I agree it's a step down from the current V-sets. If anything, on the new trains, you'll have a quieter ride and still be able to browse your phone and have a nap. But adding these new features helps make the train more accessible and easy to use for everyone, including people who currently don't choose the train because it's old, outdated, and inaccessible. We didn't have these things in Europe 10-15 years ago, and people were saying the same things. Now it would be unthinkable to build a train without them, and I'm sure the sentiment will be the same in Australia as they attract new riders who get used to being able to work on their commute and cut time at the office or have a picnic with the family on the train on the way to Lithgow.
@sylviaelse5086
6 ай бұрын
The seats on these are much more comfortable than those on the newer long distance trains.
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
And that's probably about the only thing they got on new trains
@ReliczzTheGamer
6 ай бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen And the fact that the new trains don't have reversible seats. But other than that, yes the new trains will be significantly better.
@zaamuro8408
6 ай бұрын
Best seats in NSW trains still...
@bobblybob4351
5 ай бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen comes to Sydney, hates on classic trains cause no wifi
@DanVal4
6 ай бұрын
I used to manufacture the seats/armrests here in Sydeny. They're not wood but rather moulded plastic and foam. Was more cost-effective to re-engineer and manufacture in Sydney than get them done overseas. Especially now ComEng is defunct. I just remember it was a pain to get the dye quantity right in the chemical mixture to get the colour matching and consistent haha
@neil5214
6 ай бұрын
As someone who has a long term back injury, travelling between Newcastle & Sydney is much more tolerable on this train than the newer ones which make me almost a cripple by journeys end
@CaptainsChannel58
6 ай бұрын
"very basic seats"?!? These are the best train seats we have!! A hundred fimes better than any of the newer trains on the network!
@thekrunkymonkey
6 ай бұрын
I love these trains. I used to get up an hour early to catch these to work from Newcastle to Sydney rather than ride in the newer (and far less comfortable) mid distance commuter trains.
@Rocky-2300
6 ай бұрын
I love the V-sets. They were made at a time when they actually put padding into the seats. And after decades of use, they have become very soft and comfortable. I'm not looking forward to their retirement.
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
I see at lot of people love these trains and have great memories , but the seats really seem to be the only good thing worth saving about them. They really lack proper accessibility, power, digital wayfinding, better lightning, audible announcements, which the new trains will finally bring.
@Rocky-2300
6 ай бұрын
@@Simon-AndersenGood point! Let's campaign to replace the fixed plastic seats on the new trains with the ones from the old V-set. 😁
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
@@Rocky-2300 Best of both worlds!
@tobys_transport_videos
6 ай бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen You show me a commuter train in Australia with all these features you think are "mandatory"? I grew up just fine without a mobile phone, without the internet, without all this interactive bullshit, and crappy - if any - announcements! I learnt my way around the system! I also stood in the open doorways of Red Single Deck Sets ("Red Sets") hundreds of times, as well as the open failed auto doors on S sets, and never fell out! Up until 15-20 years ago, the world was not totally a "cotton wool society."
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
@@tobys_transport_videos You show me any where else in the world that's serious about trains that keep 40 year old rolling stock around. Great! Good for you that you managed fine. Guess what the world has moved on, please give me one good argument for why we shouldn't make trains as easy and accessible as possible for everyone to use now we have the means to do so? Your comment gives me the impression that life "back then" somehow was so much harder but somehow also so much better. And I am very happy to know it's not that type of people placing train orders in NSW
@MA77SP
6 ай бұрын
The V-sets are the most comfortable train for the everyday local commuter. It really absorbs the bumps so well and its a quiet train. The V-sets will be missed.
@jamesfrench7299
6 ай бұрын
Should have ridden them in the 80s when they still had double glazed windows. They were eerily quiet and you had to swallow sometimes to be sure you hadn't lost your hearing.
@MA77SP
6 ай бұрын
@@jamesfrench7299 Wow. In that time I was born when the Tangara was built.
@nadnerb2k
6 ай бұрын
I drove them for 10 years before transferring back to Sydney Trains. Long in the tooth but can be a joy to drive. Had an empty one from Newcastle to Sydney, managed the trip in 2 hours 5 minutes, would've been sub 2 hours if it wasn't for signals at epping and strathfield.
@daveacbickford
6 ай бұрын
So great to have you in Australia mate, us Sydneysiders are all fons of the old V Sets, very iconic! The Purple seats 💜 they used to be this pastel green years ago 😂 Great route to take too, I took that same route recently even further to Lithgow, and ironically you can see the currently stranded D Set replacements for these V Sets which aren't in service yet. To those worrying about the toilets, you're right to worry haha that's a good one, I've spent 2+ hours in one of those toilets when unwell 🤢 Thanks again for another Australian video!
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
I think I might become too lenient with my toilet standards after being in the Balkans and central Asia 😅 I get there is a lot of love for the v-set in the enthusiast circle especially for the seats, but it's gonna be great getting just about every other modern amenity on the long trips out to places like Lithgow :D
@varno
6 ай бұрын
You said that there was no overhead storage, but actually, in the area with the luggage rack there, there is some limited overhead storage too.
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
Ah I must have missed that! Thanks for clarifying. There's only limited overhead storage then 😅
@tobys_transport_videos
5 ай бұрын
The seating in the area over the bogies had luggage racks, and there was limited (unsafe, IMO) storage in the end vestibule areas. I think the reason for no luggage space in the upper or lower decks may have been due the NSW loading gauge not really being suited to Double Deck trains, so the designer at Tulloch, Roy Leembruggen, designed the 48xx series Tulloch trailers to fit through the City Circle tunnels, so naturally when Comeng went into the business of building what became the V sets, they too were restricted by tunnel clearances, these being on the Blue Mountains and on the Central Coast line to Gosford, remembering that electrification to Newcastle didn't happen until June 1984, with Wyong having been a stepping stone for a while just beforehand. South Coast electrification didn't happen until the mid 80s, with Dapto by the early 90s, and Kiama some time later.
@shanepalmer887
2 ай бұрын
@@Simon-AndersenWhen the V sets were first built the single seats on the upper and lower decks did not exist. They were luggage areas originally. There are also two secret luggage storage areas. Behind the first row of seats in every carriage is a space on eith side for one suitcase and if you fold over two seats back to back you can place a suitcase in the gap🤔😊🇦🇺
@PCLoadLetter
Ай бұрын
@6:08 you can even see the overhead storage right as he says there isn't any.
@afs5609
6 ай бұрын
These V SETS were designed for passenger comfort, these days that is the last consideration, the currently delayed D sets come with from my observation a fixed non reversing seat, which will probably be as comfortable as sitting on rock, maybe ok for those who travel less than 40 minutes on a suburban train, but not for 2 plus hours, I find traveling backwards causes me to feel sick, but these days no one cares. Over the last thirty years we have gone from standard reversible seats to fixed seating then back to reversible seats on various suburban & country trains, & now back once again to fixed seats.
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
The only thing comfortable about the v-set is the seat cushioning. They lack every other modern amenity, reversible seating would be nice, but I don't actually know for how big a percentage of travelers riding backwards is an issue
@CaptainsChannel58
6 ай бұрын
Australians don't like traveling backwards, we've almost always had the choice of sitting the correct way except for some of the newer awful trains
@afs5609
6 ай бұрын
@@CaptainsChannel58 I completely agree, I am one of them, but I also know from experience, working in the rail rolling stock maintenance area, a test run on an updated mainline carriage back in the 1980's which had been converted from compartment to open saloon was greeted with many passengers passing comment of being able to sit in the direction of travel, something that the designers of train interiors have no knowledge of, we seem to wind up with the British/European concept of fixed seats facing the wrong direction of travel, maybe okay for a time period of ten to fifteen minutes but not two to three hours. it was the same when the Tangara's first entered service, the complaints about that type of seating wasn't well received by those who had approved it, the later G set configuration was the result of the complaints, even today when passengers find these reversible seats on the converted G to T sets think the whole fleet is being converted, of course these days most passengers are just happy to find a seat.
@ktipuss
6 ай бұрын
@@afs5609 I took a group of overseas students to and from Newcastle on a weekend H service recently, and they were HUGE fans of the reversible seats.
@wence25games89
4 ай бұрын
@@Simon-Andersenerhaps upgrades to disabled accessibility, charging ports and announcements would be enough
@tamworthtrainnut285
6 ай бұрын
The Xplorer runs from Central to Armidale, Moree, Broken Hill, Griffith and Canberra, the XPT runs from Central to Melbourne, Dubbo, Grafton, Casino and Brisbane, V sets run on the CCN line to Newcastle Interchange and the BMT line to Lithgow, the Endeavours run on the SCO line between Kiama and Bomaderry, SHL line between Campbelltown and Goulburn, BMT line between Lithgow and Bathurst and also the HUN line between Scone, Dungog, Muswellbrook, Telarah and Newcastle Interchange
@lachlanmcgowan5712
6 ай бұрын
Technically the Hunter Line is serviced in part by its own unique sets called the Hunter Railcars, which are based on the Endeavors but mechanically simpler and slower, with only one engine per car.
@tobys_transport_videos
6 ай бұрын
@@lachlanmcgowan5712 These are shown in official circles as "J sets." I can't remember what an Endanger is called, apart from what I've called them for over 30 years, but neither is fantastic. The Endangers used to have fixed bucket seats, but at at some stage got G set style seats, making the journey from Sydney to Lithgow much better!
@JRBRailstuff
6 ай бұрын
@@tobys_transport_videosEndeavours are N sets
@tobys_transport_videos
6 ай бұрын
@@JRBRailstuff Thanks! I remember this now, and laughing at the absurd comparison I made a the time. I'd rather a V/Line N set than a current day NSW N set!
@lachlanmcgowan5712
6 ай бұрын
I personally find the seats on the V Sets to be extremely comfortable, because they are extremely heavily padded and you can really sink into them. However, the ride overall can be pretty bad, because some of the carriages have pretty bad suspension and you can get a lot of jostling on your way on rougher sections of track.
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
Yeah exactly, the seats are good and comfortable, but that's about the only redeeming quality about them. The new trains will bring a lot of improvements in every other aspect.
@Reaper1770
6 ай бұрын
@@Simon-Andersenthe new trains which are D sets aren't very liked due to a lack of reversable seating and less padding due to seats.
@CaptainsChannel58
6 ай бұрын
D sets have those awful ironing board seats, they will be horrible
@darylcheshire1618
6 ай бұрын
In the ‘70s there was this huge departure board which was replaced with video screens. This edifice can be seen at the Powerhouse Museum.
@YishaiBarr
6 ай бұрын
Did they move the Powerhouse Museum yet?
@darylcheshire1618
6 ай бұрын
@@YishaiBarr I’m from Melbourne, I don’t know.
@Topher5035
6 ай бұрын
May be the most comfortable and least expensive train journey per km ….. in the world!
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
I think it's neither, but the seat is good and it's pretty cheap indeed
@FromtheWindowSeat
6 ай бұрын
Great to see you Down Under. The V sets are widely (at least among rail enthusiasts) regarded as great trains. Cheers!
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
They definitely work, but they for sure lack many of the modern amenities that new trains bring, new trains will likely be a downgrade in actual seat comfort unfortunately.
@doubledee9675
6 ай бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen And I suspect that most passengers would prefer a comfortable seat above most other features.
@CaptainsChannel58
6 ай бұрын
Exactly, seat comfort on a two+ hour journey is paramount!
@siwi666
6 ай бұрын
Thank you!. Some of these need to be retained with gentle upgrades. They are really lovely trains.
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
They for sure have character and have served very well. Let's hope a museum or heritage railway can preserve one
@igorsiuda8108
6 ай бұрын
G on Comeng's name is pronounce like e.g. Georgia, George, etc, as it's name stands for "Community Engineering" or "Commonwealth Engineering".
@Aaron-uf3sl
6 ай бұрын
The name is Commonwealth Engineering. Not sure where you got community engineering from.
@justinsimmonds5674
5 ай бұрын
These old beasts were most definitely built to last. They’re ol’ reliable. Very good Australian-made quality that are actually fit for purpose.
@ThePolaroid669
6 ай бұрын
None of the original 1970 built sets still exist. Therefore, none of them currently in service are over 50 years old.
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
I should probably have made bigger point of mentioning that in the video! Thanks for clarifying
@jamesfrench7299
6 ай бұрын
The interiors were very different apart from the seats. The window sills were huge. People today with their devices would have liked them.
@alexmccutcheon7381
6 ай бұрын
Loving the script! "everything from power banks to Powerade"
@MichaelRasco
3 ай бұрын
I recently moved to Sydney and have been taking the trains pretty often. I noticed they're still running old trains in their fleet so it was great to see this video pop up!
@dieseldavetrains8988
6 ай бұрын
At 3.33 narration you should replace "Sydney & Brisbane" with "Melbourne & Brisbane" as you are already in Sydney! Nice simple video, very enjoyable.
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
Ah you're right! Happens when youre somewhere you're not familiar with. Thanks for watching :-)
@dieseldavetrains8988
6 ай бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen Good quality video Simon, are you using GoPro9 or GoPro10?
@atholmullen
6 ай бұрын
V-sets have a design in-service top speed of 160km/h. It is only a policy decision that limits the speed to 120km/h.
@jamesfrench7299
6 ай бұрын
Two words I loathe are that and contract.
@Class_38
6 ай бұрын
DTC/DTD cars are my favourite cars to travel in whenever I get the chance to ride a v-set.
@krillbo948
6 ай бұрын
So much better than the uncomfortable, painfully bright and poorly thought out Oscar’s
@lyndonlives638
Ай бұрын
I often catch these trains between Newcastle and Katoomba with a change at Central in order to visit family when I don't want to spend a bomb on petrol money by driving. I quite like the journey, especially when it's quiet. Only costs about $7 one way off-peak, which is pretty incredible for a four and a half hour journey!
@Simon-Andersen
Ай бұрын
No complains about fares!
@ascendant1218
5 ай бұрын
I love V sets. It will be sad to see them go. They are dated, but like many others have said, I think they are more comfortable than the newer trains.
@johngreen9830
5 ай бұрын
Dude this is a complete 4th wall break for me. Seeing a mainstream channel cover the train route that all blue mountains goers travel to Sydney and around each town, a romantic yet seemingly isolated hidden train ride for me atleast is shown to the world. Insane
@danieleyre8913
6 ай бұрын
Misleading title. None of the Series 1 of the V sets that were built at the beginning of the 1970s are in service anymore, they were scrapped almost 20 years ago. All the sets still in frequent service are series 3 to series 8 that were built during the 1980s. More like 35-40 years old, so approaching the end of their lives but not older than the 45 years of frequent service which rolling stock are expected to have.
@OldAussieAds
5 ай бұрын
V sets are my favourite train. And fun fact, I'm writing this post while sitting on one. But I'm biased. I grew up with these trains. But here's some non biased feedback. My brother-in law was recently visiting from Canada. We caught a V set in to Sydney and caught an H set back. When we got on the train for the return journey, he said "Oh, how come we don't get one of those luxurious trains going home?". I found this an odd thing for him to say, because I assumed overseas visitors would consider the V sets to be old and crusty without the rose coloured glasses. Seems I was wrong.
@Simon-Andersen
5 ай бұрын
I think the main issue here is that the H sets really are inner suburban trains being used on a wrong kind of service, where the V-sets actually had a bit of comfort in mind. Seems like with the new D-sets there is being made an attempt at getting something similar to whats offered on similar lenght services in many european countries
@michaelmcdonald3275
6 ай бұрын
We should keep them, their replacements are sterile uncomfortable crap. They were able to breathe new life into these Vsets when they were re-upholstered in Purple. These trains are magnificent and comfortable.
@PendolinoMarco
6 ай бұрын
Cool video and an awesome train Simon, They look similair to American Trains with all that ribbed metal sheet metal, Australia is really an amazing and beautiful Country, Mind also that brandnew Sydney Tram under the canopy at 0:53, What a beast! (Yes I'm also a Tram Geek from The Netherlands) :D
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
Thanks Marco!
@wendypilley1505
6 ай бұрын
You should come visit some time to Down Under Australia 🇦🇺
@johncitizen5377
5 ай бұрын
Using a public power outlet to charge your device? Perfect way to compromise it. Great video by the way. You missed Glenbrook Gorge though.
@1234mallard
6 ай бұрын
I’ve travelled many times on these trains many times over the years, mainly out to Lithgow or up to Newcastle. Despite being old they are very comfortable to ride on, just without modern amenities. There have been many problems with the replacement D sets. I’ve heard stories ranging from union disputes, to the trains being too wide for some stations.
@iankemp1131
6 ай бұрын
Nice to see these again. I remember travelling on one to Katoomba on my first visit to Australia in 1982. Great views from the upper deck, and nice and comfortable. Classic designs don't grow old or lose their inherent functionality. Good also to see an XPT still in service now that the HSTs have almost disappeared from the UK network.
@ceeemm1901
Ай бұрын
Nice vid. I lived in Blackheath for 12 years.Fantastic place .That weather reminded me of it a lot, haha. Snow in the winter sometimes. But in front of a wood fire and a book, nothing compared. Miles and miles of hiking paths and falling rock climbers Great meditation centre too. Thanks.
@Simon-Andersen
29 күн бұрын
Had a great time hiking around! Will have to visit more of the area next time i'm back in this part of the world.
@DarkabyssTheFounder
5 ай бұрын
These trains have surprised me to no end. The manual doors might be a bit of a confusion for people who haven’t gone on The Blue Mountain Line (aka me) but other than that, these trains are amazing (we’re never talking about the new ones)
@ThomasNing
6 ай бұрын
The v-sets have dedicated space for bikes :) and they work with bikes with front mudguards, unlike the new ones.
@turquoisechannel2.0commentsYT
2 ай бұрын
I was actually in the Blue Mountains a couple of days ago (but unfortunately I didn’t know the V set existed) so that’s why next time if I ever go to Sydney I’m gonna film a whole bunch of V set trains (mainly because I’m from Melbourne and I Love old trains)
@PineappleSkip
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the ride. I’ve lived in Blackheath and know the ride well. Always thrilling when you get down to Penrith and can go faster with fewer stops. Come back again some time and have a look at the heritage listed Mount Victoria station, and ride through the fascinating ten tunnels on the descent to Lithgow!
@jouebien
6 ай бұрын
they Sydney to Brisbane service actually terminates at Casino if you catch the day service. You get bussed into Roma Street Station via Lismore, Bryon Bay, Surface, Logan and finally Brisbane. The night service runs directly into Roma Street as QR has slots for it to run over all the bridges during off peak commuter time.
@lachlanmcgowan5712
6 ай бұрын
Wonder if Queensland Rail will be able to let daytime trains from Sydney come all the way to Roma St after they finish the Cross River Tunnel?
@samtrak1204
6 ай бұрын
Thank you. I never new parts of Austrailia were so green and lush.
@lachlanmcgowan5712
6 ай бұрын
This was filmed during a pretty wet summer, our trees get much greener when there's a lot of rain
@cyclops92
6 ай бұрын
Wait until you find out we have snow
@quarkcypher
6 ай бұрын
I live in the upper Blue Mountains, sometimes it snows here in Winter. Snowfalls in Australia do surprise some foreigners. Cheers.
@jamesfrench7299
6 ай бұрын
What happens when you rely on the entertainment industry to learn stuff.
@AURON2401
6 ай бұрын
Well, we don't go so far inland where there is no green, and it was probably filmed where everywhere isn't burning 10x more than what you would get from a battle scene in a movie/tv show. Oh and the mountains are pretty cool too.
@Cropmy5
4 ай бұрын
Note that the Sydney Metro isn't a competitor to Sydney Trains. They're both under Transport for NSW, a government agency.
@pcorf
6 ай бұрын
Gutted cab cars were unpowered (trailers), they were used on 2 and 6 car trains in the past. DCT9042 is from the second batch, built in 1977.
@jaydanjm9589
5 ай бұрын
I did this exact same trip a couple of months back. I don't think i could find the same joy in it without the V Sets :(
@RKMa64
6 ай бұрын
Yore narrator voice is perfect for trains Calm and cool. I wish mine could be like that 😎
@aniburns329
6 ай бұрын
I used to love the beautiful colour seats and flooring. The seats were fairly comfortable and the windows large and picturesque! Last time I was on one was when I was living in Australia in '94 or so before I moved to the UK then the US.
@Nihilore
6 ай бұрын
50 years old and still comfy af, caught one to school every day for 6 years in the early 2000's. also you got the purple seated treains, the green seated trains have comfier seats and are more common. or were back then
@weaselman24
6 ай бұрын
I remember riding the whole way to the mountains in the door area crammed with mountain bikes every weekend
@Stanmanme
6 ай бұрын
That's the cleanest toilet on those trains I've ever seen
@ChrisAltman-yw4fe
6 ай бұрын
I still love riding in them.
@mrdodgex
6 ай бұрын
Your pronunciation on penrith was absolutely perfect, just like a local. Hope you had some sanitising wipes after using the v set toilets. Only use them in emergencies haha. Great video
@Simon-Andersen
5 ай бұрын
Hahah i tried to the best of my ability to wash my hands aftewards :P
@peterkirgan2921
6 ай бұрын
I used to work on these @ ugl doing refreshes ( referb) also travelled on these Newcastle line ! Will be sadly missed 😢when eventually retired! Great video thank you ! 😊
@Mediawatcher2023
6 ай бұрын
The V - Set train you see is Series 3 entered service 1982
@davewilson5370
6 ай бұрын
They've already purchased the V set replacements...they are exactly the same sort of train just much more modern. They have had some sort of teething problems which are being sorted out as we speak. To see them one merely needs to go to the yards in Chullora/Enfield and they are there.....very flashy..
@tdb7992
6 ай бұрын
The new metro extension through the central city area of Sydney opens soon. Hopefully one day you will come back to ride on it. The new stations look really amazing, and the driverless technology reminds me a lot of Copenhagen's metro. I'm glad you came to experience our country ☺
@Simon-Andersen
6 ай бұрын
One day I'll be back :D I had a ride on the extension open in the north, seems like a great mode of transit for Sydney!
@jamesfrench7299
6 ай бұрын
My dad used to call them the blue tongue train due to the decorative blue on grey livery of the fronts the earlier batches carried. They originally had the two way gold mirrored windows like the XPT still has and double glazing which made them super quiet in the saloon. They felt like a luxury car in rails. More sound comes through due to them phasing in the single layer windows. They were fantastic in their day.
@OldAussieAds
5 ай бұрын
I didn't realise the windows were changed to single layer. I only knew they weren't gold anymore.
@jamesfrench7299
5 ай бұрын
@@OldAussieAds some would trap condensation, some so severe inches of water would pool in them.
@OldAussieAds
5 ай бұрын
@@jamesfrench7299 I vaguely remember the water. I also remember that while they gave you privacy at day (they looked like gold aviator glasses from the outside), at night time it was reversed.
@jamesfrench7299
5 ай бұрын
@@OldAussieAds yes!! It was great for people watching in the day but you were a zoo exhibit by night!
@PCLoadLetter
Ай бұрын
The term I heard was Blue Goose. And yeah, the orange windows were awful. I got no radio reception on my walkman through the orange windows & heaven help if I heard the chopper whine through my headphones! They really needed to be replaced on the XPT too, as soon as mobile phones became a thing. The orange windows block mobile phone signals. If you don't know to put your phone in airplane mode, it keeps trying, over and over, rarely succeeds at making a connection to a base station, and thus those windows will drain your phone battery flat.
@jaydensydes3478
6 ай бұрын
i can't believe they want to replace the most comfortable trains in NSW with some F-tier concrete slab china rubbish, i am absolutely devastated, i can't drive to work so I rely on public transport and they're about to make me very miserable.
@thfreakinacage
Ай бұрын
Australia as a whole seems to have a huge asbestos problem. So many houses built almost entirely out of it, there's been mulch found in public spaces with it in, now I hear about the trains with it! Back in England the only time you ever hear someone even mention the word asbestos is in a joke about someone having "asbestos hands"! It barely exists in the UK. Sure, it's here and there, but it's super rare. But in Australia it's like a plague!
@clivedinosaur8407
6 ай бұрын
I travel regularly between Central and Newcastle Interchange (approx 2hr 40min) and will adjust my plans just to get one of these Intercity trains. The only downside is the very small toilet, including the door....virtually impossible to enter while wearing any type of backpack.
@JRBRailstuff
6 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to go one one when I’m down that way next month. Also on the non electrified sections, NSW also has the Hunter DMUs, used on the hunter valley commuter line between Newcastle and Maitland/Scone/Muswellbrook/Dungog
@bluegamer308
5 ай бұрын
Love the XPT
@gold4leaf
6 ай бұрын
As a commuter of 40 years travelling the Central Coast to Sydney daily the V sets are by far the most comfortable carriages to travel in, the H sets and the replacement D sets both have very hard seats and no arm rests, and the D sets are not flippable, a feature that should be mandatory on longer distance intercity trains, who wants to travel for 2 or more ours backwards. Also having a vestibule on the V sets stops the cold in winter and the hot in summer getting into the carriage unlike the newer sets which don't have this feature. Definitely not looking forward to the V sets being retired
@Malsher
2 ай бұрын
In the 80's everyone called them "Blue Goose's" as they were blue instead of yellow
@Redozer3
6 ай бұрын
Hopefully I can go on a V set before they are retired, they now mostly run Blue Mountains, so I am expecting to go somewhere and back on the V sets. Just a few weeks ago, I went on a Hunter Railcar, not an explorer or endeavour (as they require booked seats only which I will probably not get. I am expecting that I can just go on a V set one last time before they go and retire. I do not think they are going to preserve it, but most trains gets preserved, used as a emergency or used in a heritage expo.
@darrenswan600
6 ай бұрын
I went on one from Cardiff to Sydney with my class from gths to go to the sea life aquarium in darling harbour
@Croissinate
6 ай бұрын
7:24 very brave touching the seat with your hands lol. Those bathrooms are a nightmare in terms of cleanliness. Nonetheless, great video!
@timrozitis961
6 ай бұрын
My favourite "recycled" trains were in Adelaide. They had a class affectionately called the "Jumbo" where the driver appeared to sit on a second storey (in reality I think they were about half a storey higher than the plebs, but we still called them double decker trains). These were brought in in the 70s to compliment a fleet of red hens/red rattlers (not to be confused with Sydney trains that might have had the same nickname). At some stage not long after a couple of red hens were converted into Jumbos (And dubbed "Superchooks"). I always wanted to ravel in one (but sadly never got to) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Australian_Railways_Redhen_railcar#2300/2500_class_(%22Superchook%22)_variant
@Picolinni
6 ай бұрын
I gre up with Red Hens, 2000, and 3000 classes. The Chooks smelt of kero, and the doors of the 2000’s didn’t have central locking, meaning you could open them while underway. Helped in summer. Locking doors and reliable A/C was about all the amenities we wanted… Edit: I also got to ride in the cab of a 2000 a couple of times. They were geared Diesel Hydraulics, and the cab gave amazing visibility. The seating was amazing in the 90’s. Deep, so amazingly comfy! In peak hours they’d have a powered non-cab car (occasionally a powered cab car) sandwiched between two non-powered cab cars. Off peak would have a powered and non powered cab car. Wow betide any passenger who wasn’t a local, or just wasn’t paying attention, and got on a set that had a non powered car between two power cars! You’d get jostled backwards and forwards by the two power cars! I have a video I took on my first iPhone from a cab car. So smooth and quite. I miss them most. The Pox Boxes I do not (3000 class).
@timrozitis961
6 ай бұрын
@MASSspec1990 I remember non-locking doors on the red hens (which were often open), but don't remember same on 2000s. Used to love firstly how the 2000s would crea and sway as people would board in the city, and secondly sitting in a non--powered front carriage where you'd get a slight jolt as the power car roared into action (and it was a fine roar too)
@1toneboy
6 ай бұрын
Ugh what a bugman take: ‘these loyal Australian made trains don’t have power outlets, lucky they’re being replaced’.
@Dobuan75
6 ай бұрын
Welcome! I’m from Sydney but lived in Stockholm for 3 years and worked on Vasagatan just across the road from T-Centralen. Thanks for the kind comparison, but in my opinion, the Stockholm station is much, much superior.
@JJamahJamerson
5 ай бұрын
Still my favourite trains, they feel more human, wish the newer designs had such a human centred design.
@IESpotter
6 ай бұрын
Great video! Really enjoyed it.
@discountgumshoe3787
6 ай бұрын
It's a little telling how bad our standards for railways have gotten in Australia that there's bunches of people in here telling a guy from Europe that he doesn't know what good long distance intercity trains are because he dared to, mildly, suggest that rolling stock that's almost 40 years old might need to be replaced soon.
@kolejnakolej.1437
6 ай бұрын
Interesting video. Good work. Greetings from Poland. 👍
@aussiefirestorm
6 ай бұрын
You missed out by not going to Mt Victoria , It has beautiful old station buildings.
@PeugeotmannenBreak
6 ай бұрын
Tack va trevlig å se
@benryan3018
6 ай бұрын
Can I buy one? 3 hours for Newcastle to Sydney is pathetic enough already but each time new trains come out the seats are getting smaller and harder !
@geoffreymartin2764
6 ай бұрын
New ones don't have moveable seats. We have always had movable seats even the red rattlers (1926 - 1992). 🏳🌈
@JenperTV
6 ай бұрын
Most Tangaras don’t have moveable seats
@CaptainsChannel58
6 ай бұрын
@@JenperTVand that's the main reason they are awful trains.
@SydneyMTB
5 ай бұрын
sketchy ass doors give me ptsd every time i try and squeeze in to one of them with my bike and 5 other friends...
@itsLaskis
6 ай бұрын
ive spent atleast 100 hours sitting at that trainstation over the past year and it feels weird to see it on yt lmao
@koharumi1
5 ай бұрын
The only problem with them is no interconnection between the carriages
@PatSmashYT
5 ай бұрын
Thats the first time I've ever seen one of those trains with a toilet that isn't out of order
@waramatt1
5 ай бұрын
I will be sad when we lose these trains. The newer ones are torture chambers lacking comfort.
@dylanadnum6210
5 ай бұрын
D sets might be new and shiny, but they aren't anything to be screaming about... been sitting in the Lithgow yard for about 3 years now being run up and down the line by the SSR loco's a few times a week to keep them going.
@CharliesTransportAdventures
5 ай бұрын
It will be sad when they get replaced by the D Sets
@bradleywicenciak8005
Ай бұрын
Commuters in the mountains don't want them replaced. Guaranteed that the replacement will have harder more durable seats. Who cares about charging ports.
@rakeau
6 ай бұрын
Nooo. These are the best trains by far! They're super quiet and comfortable. They feel more "closed in" yet are roomy in terms of seating - very cosy. Other newer trains are the opposite - they're very "open" (lots of windows and light) and lots of space .... but then all of the space is filled with dense seating and it gets very cramped with people. Also the lighting is way too bright when it's dark outside, these older trains are much easier on the eyes etc without having blinding lighting installed as well as the much smaller, tinted windows - far far better. And from what I know, the replacements won't have reversible seating which is something that has existed on Sydney trains for many decades (as are these 50yo v-sets) and are an expectation from commuters. Sure, maybe the amenities are a bit lacking, but honestly these trains are like riding on a cloud whereas everything else is like riding in a church pew and that's 90% of what matters. Whoever is building trains for Australian rail these days I feel have never actually ridden on a train, and certainly hasn't ridden on a V-set. They shouldn't be designing any train cars until they do. And you can guarantee they won't last 50 years like these ones do.
@phoenixwright3752
27 күн бұрын
THEYRE REPLACING THEM??? I've been catching them for so many years from western sydney, or coming home from the city in the middle of the night, so many memories :(
@Simon-Andersen
26 күн бұрын
Better get some last trips in, it wont be long before they are gone as soons as the d-sets starts entering service.
@lynxx82
6 ай бұрын
D sets may seam better but there i one major problem for people who can not travel backwards the D set train bets are fixed half the seats in the carages face backwords. if your traveling from a station to the city you can not be garantied a forward facing seat past the first couple of stations. so for me I can't travel backwards or stand for a long time
@davidperrott4502
2 ай бұрын
the purple was the worst decision ever.
@GeePa38
6 ай бұрын
Good video - you did miss one regional train though - Hunter Line Trains. These are not Endeavours or Explorers.
@Simon-Andersen
5 ай бұрын
Ah yeah good point!
@GeePa38
5 ай бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen just a minor point I live in the Hunter Valley hence my attention to it. Love your work though.
@CT-5916
6 ай бұрын
I won't mind for a XPT to Sydney from Sydney.
@Simon-Andersen
5 ай бұрын
Little mispoke, good catch!
@BePartOfTheMagic
5 ай бұрын
It’s good about the intercity Blue Mountains trains because they are going to get rid of the v set😢 The original train will still be good😢 I will miss those original good trains that In these blue mountain services My favourite one is the south coast with the new South train link Oscar. They are my favourite intercity trains on the south coast services. I will be sad to see the vset😢
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