Billy's S4 arc in a nutshell: Comic Butcher is gazlighting Show's Butcher to stop being a bussy
@mplaysplays3427
20 күн бұрын
The comics are shit man, his arc is mutch better in the show, and nobody cared about the comics in the first place
@youravghuman5231
20 күн бұрын
@@mplaysplays3427and every comic readers thought the show is following 100% to comic 😂
@dmitrykhvostik5975
20 күн бұрын
@@mplaysplays3427 Ok. And?🗿
@GrandRegentSScratch
20 күн бұрын
@@mplaysplays3427someone didn’t read the comics😂
@robbieburns1777
20 күн бұрын
@@dmitrykhvostik5975 Just ignore him bro he most likely has autism. Mans obvliously never even read a comic and just gone with the Oh it's shit card.
@kahate7328
20 күн бұрын
Negan is literally making butcher becoming negan
@johans3164
20 күн бұрын
@@kahate7328 no. He is making him into his comic book version
@Invincible554
19 күн бұрын
more like his comic book counterpart
@shantiprakashbihani1420
19 күн бұрын
Yk that joe is literally butcher's bad side ?? So it's butcher who is forcing himself to become ruthless
@To.me.my.X-Men.97
19 күн бұрын
"Become The Animal. Embrace to the other side." William Stryker. X-Men Origins Wolverine
@SkuYguY_
19 күн бұрын
Deadpool wannabe
@SirsasthNigam.
20 күн бұрын
S4 arc in a nutshell: Homelander and Billy yell at mirrors in front of them
@PokemonWalkthruSaves
19 күн бұрын
Homelander is just hallunicating his own versions of different personalities. Butcher is hallunicating important persons in his life who had their own personalities. Yeah, pretty much but similar but different perspective
@user-yb8xz6gt3o
19 күн бұрын
That's the part of scorched earth too
@fildos4547
19 күн бұрын
@@PokemonWalkthruSaves not really those people he is hallucanating are his own personalities
@Diamond_gambino
19 күн бұрын
@@fildos4547he’s not hallucinating by thought though it’s the tumor creature that’s messing with his brain like some type of sentient projecting all his memories
@Shaunshahriar
19 күн бұрын
We got hallucinating homelander and bipolar butcher
@Alkn24
20 күн бұрын
Everyone missing the main point 😂😂 ….Maeve could turn up to season 5 with a Butcher Jr
@kaz7690
19 күн бұрын
Wonder if that baby would even turn out a Supe with how she lost her powers. Would be really interesting but I think it wouldn't matter since Butcher will be dead by the time the baby (potentially) arrives
@newhybrid101
19 күн бұрын
I imagine a 1 year old with a full beard saying "OI"
@sheralathans3956
19 күн бұрын
@@newhybrid101 you got me there 😂😂😂
@-z-9989
19 күн бұрын
@@newhybrid101 and "fucking diabolical"
@To.me.my.X-Men.97
19 күн бұрын
@@newhybrid101Little Butcher Jr be like "SCORCHED EARFF"😝
@demondsims5411
19 күн бұрын
"Quitting the Quitting lately" I LOL at the line. Jeffrey Dean Morgan spoke it quite funny. The show's writing is so good.😅
@m3rl1on
19 күн бұрын
quite the Comedian, isn't he?
@TheStraightestWhitest
17 күн бұрын
''The show's writing is so good.'' LMFAO!
@tobsonasanya4765
17 күн бұрын
It is mostly@@TheStraightestWhitest
@demondsims5411
17 күн бұрын
@@TheStraightestWhitest The writing is good on this show. And....
@TheStraightestWhitest
17 күн бұрын
@@demondsims5411 Was*
@ChicagoScorpion
20 күн бұрын
I don't remember Butcher being an alcoholic when he was with Becca, I thought it was after she disappeared he started drinking heavily.
@zumabbar
20 күн бұрын
Pretty sure Kessler didn't say that, he was talking about how Butcher took Becca for granted edit: but still, i also don't remember Billy not treating Becca well before everything, and even after he found out she's still alive.... maybe this was just Kessler shit talking him and trying to get into his head (HA!)
@kasey6921
20 күн бұрын
Hm yeah and I think Butcher would tell himself that sleeping with someone (out of grief? loneliness?) despite Becca being presumed dead is still cheating.
@zumabbar
20 күн бұрын
@@kasey6921 are you talking about Maeve or the aforementioned Waitress?
@petervizzini4006
20 күн бұрын
He's referring to before Homelander gr@ped Becca, Butcher cheated on her
@anieltavares7991
20 күн бұрын
@@kasey6921 he literally a sexual I assume relationship with that cia chick from s1
@mathelok6850
19 күн бұрын
Negan - you cheated on your wife Butcher - look who's talking
@shan4680
18 күн бұрын
"Technically, *you're* fucking Marla. But it's all the same to me."
@ronburgundy244
15 күн бұрын
@@shan4680 I think the line was "It's all the same to her."
@shan4680
14 күн бұрын
@@ronburgundy244 Thanks, Ron. I suspected I didn't quite recall it 100% correctly.
@ndhickson3599
2 күн бұрын
Takes one to know one
@saltysnoopy9361
20 күн бұрын
Negan is always speaking the facts
@dragon091327
19 күн бұрын
It’s all fun and games until he beats Hughes brain in with Lucille.
@MrDibara
19 күн бұрын
@@dragon091327 *Using Butcher's body in the process!* 💀
@trevturp6891
19 күн бұрын
Who’s Negan?
@roderszn
19 күн бұрын
@@trevturp6891 The Walking Dead character
@todd3143
18 күн бұрын
@@trevturp6891i’m negan!
@Invincible554
19 күн бұрын
Something is telling me that Joe is trying to turn him into his comic book counterpart
@brokenman58
19 күн бұрын
In case you missed it, Butcher manipulated them all to do what he has wanted since day 1. He is just a pu**y version of the comic butcher lol
@DarsiPadilla
18 күн бұрын
No kidding.
@detoxify299
18 күн бұрын
everything is telling u
@____ala5443
17 күн бұрын
What was his comic counterpart like ? I never read it
@Laughter12370
17 күн бұрын
@@____ala5443 much much more psychopathic the comic ends with him killing all the boys except hughie imagine if show butcher never met Ryan or if Becca wasn't alive
@JBrander
19 күн бұрын
Billy: "i luv me woife's son because i love me woife BECCA" Joe: "Is that really the reason? Or is it because.... you (shuffles cards) FVCKED A WAITRESS ALL THOSE YEARS AGO" Billy: 😦
@Pwilliams4000
19 күн бұрын
😭
@Bastionedits
19 күн бұрын
he did? I thougth was a metafore from Joe to refer about Maeve.
@mentos7070
19 күн бұрын
lol this sh was trash this show fell off
@gonzalojose9255
19 күн бұрын
@@Bastionedits When he fucked Maeve , Becca was already dead. This must be a trick from Parasite Kessler playing with his memories because having Butcher acutally being unfaithful to Becca after all these time just would really prove the writers this season really have sent everything downthefuckhill and worsening these character arcs.
@Bastionedits
19 күн бұрын
@@gonzalojose9255 maybe
@mdjunad5771
20 күн бұрын
He has got a point there though 😂
@jairusjackson7799
20 күн бұрын
Sounds like he had a drunken one night stand like he did with Maeve. I don't understand why some people think, a character who kills and tortures people in cold blood, would draw the moral line at cheating. Like come on, you know they're capable of far worse this shouldn't be a surprise. At least he's making it up to her now, by trying to save her son from becoming a monster
@johans3164
20 күн бұрын
@@jairusjackson7799 yeah its hilarious. Him killing and manipulating his friends are "cool" but cheating? Thats what got people panties caught in a twist? This freaking world 🤣🤣
@muratbayraktar5035
20 күн бұрын
The thing is, he started his murder and torture spree after her wife was supposedly raped and killed by a supe. So this revelation even though not entirely a plot hole, still entirely fucks up butchers character.
@muratbayraktar5035
20 күн бұрын
@@johans3164which one of his friends did he kill though?
@johans3164
20 күн бұрын
@@muratbayraktar5035 i mean Negan still named his bat Lucille after his dead wife that he cheated on. They still love their wifes but both got lost in temptation. Not justifying cheating or their behavior but its funny how some are more triggered by Butcher cheating over him brutally killing supes or sometimes abondoning his friends to die. And sorry for that comment. I should have said him killing people he dont like, not his friends
@Sportify_Studio
20 күн бұрын
It's an ass pull plot twist made by the writers since the audience are beginning to love Butcher more often lol but idc since I already like him
@kasey6921
20 күн бұрын
Hm I wonder if he cheated whilst they were actually still together or when Butcher was still searching for her after she disappeared. Wouldn't be surprised if he would tell himself that this still counts as cheating as he was determined to reunite with Becca
@axolotlpanda8920
20 күн бұрын
it was when they were still together
@nicomatthee9182
20 күн бұрын
When did he cheat with the waitress
@JustTooDamnHonest
20 күн бұрын
@@nicomatthee9182 Before the show.
@sanjaymaurya5520
20 күн бұрын
@axolotlpanda8920 how ? Any proof or reference?
@tlapeto1303
20 күн бұрын
@@sanjaymaurya5520did you watch the clip? lmao
@wolfzeru5745
19 күн бұрын
In the comics, Butcher would kill people and make horrible things without realizing what he was doing, that's what he told to Jack from Jupiter when he was torturing him to death ("it's not me son, I'm somewhere else watching it happen"). I think Kessler is somehow an adaptation from this aspect of the character, comic Butcher knew what he was doing was wrong, killing his friends and innocent people, he couldn't just stop because his mind was too focked up
@redjirachi1
Күн бұрын
So Kessler is Butcher dissociating given a voice
@trevorsreya8277
19 күн бұрын
The thing this Kessler doesn't get is that Butcher's entire hate train for supes stems from what Homelander did to Becca. If Kessler makes him stop caring about Becca and Ryan, he pretty much takes away any reason Butcher has to hate Homelander, and any other supes. (Yes, I know Kessler is a hallucination. I'm still gonna address him as if he's real for this statement)
@makokx7063
19 күн бұрын
I don't know about that. When someone hurts your loved one it's like they hurt you. Even if Butcher completely stopped giving a fuck about Becca and Ryan I think the hatred towards Homelander as a man who raped another man's woman would still be alive and burning.
@amasing115
11 күн бұрын
Kessler is dead but he's very much real, he's the personification of the V'd up tumor inside Butcher's head. He's not just some hallucination, as shown when he pushed Butcher to the brink of death in the bar because he wouldn't agree with him. Hell he may be in control of Butcher now.
@gabrielvelosa2597
19 күн бұрын
Billy Butcher and Queen Maeve in the Season 3💀💀💀
@Brandonweifu
19 күн бұрын
Nah This was before she died Yeah....butcher is not a good person
@JKBDTS
19 күн бұрын
It happened after she died. How do you all watch this show? And I thought I'm the one not really paying attention.
@Neutrino939
19 күн бұрын
@@Brandonweifuqueen maeve did not die
@-bielle2985
18 күн бұрын
Yeah it's not the same thing. He cheated on Becca while she was still alive. I'd argue Maeve is in the wrong here tbh because unlike Billy, her partner is still alive and she still cheated
@alancamarena3061
18 күн бұрын
@@-bielle2985 they weren't together at that point, once she lost her powers they came back together
@nikkimiddlekillsday5161
19 күн бұрын
Bringing up Maeve was an interesting point
@Impulsessave
12 күн бұрын
Maybe it’ll lead to a child being revealed?
@Sportify_Studio
20 күн бұрын
Is it just me, or does anyone find it stupid that this just suddenly got brought up out of nowhere, same as Frenchie's subplot
@elscud.
20 күн бұрын
Definitely a retcon to keep the show going
@darkprinceofdorne
20 күн бұрын
yeah it's stupid
@tobsonasanya4765
20 күн бұрын
@@elscud.Eh is it
@theonetruefusion8533
20 күн бұрын
@@elscud. retcon? retcon what? he cheated on his wife, there's no statement that he never cheated on her, "she didn't mention it" it's most likely she doesn't know, the only people who probably know are William and the waitress
@shottathakid1898
20 күн бұрын
Fr. They're ruining this show with all of these supposed "a-ha" plot twist moments, even with Kimiko's subplot. Plus, most of these subplots get all mixed up and condensed into one episode, not giving time for them to make sense at all because oops, now there's a scene with Tek Knight SA'ing Hughie and Omelanda drinkin milky milk
@kevinescobar370
19 күн бұрын
Kessler is the Billy butcher we thought we were getting before the show first came out
@WhyTho525
19 күн бұрын
Comic Butcher vs TV Butcher basically
@fukyuyuetoob7663
20 күн бұрын
Oh man, just imagine Queen Maeve pregnant.😅
@PeterParkerwon
20 күн бұрын
She was probably on that Supe birth control it'll be fine
@BlackBrazilianBoy
19 күн бұрын
Be one strong supe baby that's for sure, queen maeve powers + Butchers vd up abomination powers=nightmarish child.
@zeleeba8774
19 күн бұрын
@@BlackBrazilianBoy children of supes do not have abilities. Only Homelander can produce children with his abilities because he is the result of combining the sperm of Soldier Boy and Compound V and was born a supe. Maeve was just given huge doses of V in infancy.
@zeleeba8774
19 күн бұрын
@@BlackBrazilianBoy Children of supe do not have abilities. Only a Homelander can produce children with his abilities because he is the result of combining the sperm of Soldier Boy and Compound V and was born a supe. Maeve was just given huge doses of V in infancy.
@Screwye
19 күн бұрын
@@BlackBrazilianBoynot sure it works that way or else Ryan wouldn’t be the first natural born supe, however, Andre from Gen V does has the same power as his father.
@epicsshadesmaster-animatio4398
19 күн бұрын
I like the end where it shows that he's legitimately not talking to anybody again ☠️
@KermitTheGangsta58
19 күн бұрын
Queen meave's gonna drop a kid on butcher's door in s5
@Impulsessave
12 күн бұрын
After the end of season 4, i think what will happen is Annie fleas to meet Maeve and her girlfriend. When she gets there she sees Maeve and her girlfriend raising a 1-2 year old child which is revealed to be Butchers’.
@d4rksonic474
9 күн бұрын
@@Impulsessave I don't know how many days passed throughout the entirety of S3, but there's just a span of six months between the showdown with Soldier Boy and S4. And since nobody saw any goddamn baby belly, King Butcher would probably still prepare his great "coming out".
@fernandofloresd.b1827
19 күн бұрын
The way Kessler smiles after Butcher almost dies in a later scene is by far the most intriguing thing in this season so far... R.I.P. Butcher, Welcome Negan
@SirsasthNigam.
20 күн бұрын
A-train thinking - Is he alright?
@userunknown9655
19 күн бұрын
It's an unnecessary development for butcher, in my opinion. He has to have something honourable about him to root for him. Not be a POS all the time.
@JKBDTS
19 күн бұрын
The thing is that he's trying to not be a POS
@lastassassin4443
19 күн бұрын
This is such a dumb plot point why would butcher cheat on Becca? The entire point of her character is to show that there is some humanity in Butcher that he is better than what his father tryed to make him Becca is Butcher’s light him cheating on her is just so dumb and unnecessary it felt like it was just thrown in there to make us dislike Butcher
@acrasis
19 күн бұрын
i agree entirely. what a stupid fucking write off, this whole season is one step forwards two steps backwards
@joseluis5055
19 күн бұрын
Why? Cheating is nothing compared to what he's done. The point is Butcher is a shitty person even to the people he loves. He's shitty to his brother, Hughie, Ryan, and even Becca
@Pwilliams4000
19 күн бұрын
@@acrasisfr
@johnwotek3816
19 күн бұрын
Don't forget this is the bloody brain tumor speaking... for all we know, it could be bullshit, like when Kessler made Billy believe he saved him.
@tritonus162
19 күн бұрын
@joseluis5055 The point was, at least from what we're given, that Butcher loved Becca so much he changed FOR her, that's how it was in the comics and it was exactly how it was played in this show too. Had the plot device not been 'Billy's evil thoughts are undermining him', they would've kept him as devoted as we thought he was. While the whole thing about 'Kessler' trying to downplay Billy's devotion to Becca was done really well, it kills quite a bit of what made Butcher so compelling (at least for me). Anyway, my point is that the one redeeming quality of Butcher is gone. The story seemed to be written such that Becca changed him, and him losing Becca changed him back (hell, worse than before). The fact that he was still an alcoholic after getting with Becca undermines everything we've been told and shown so far.
@talapantedtoad6461
19 күн бұрын
This seasons highs are high but the lows are low.
@bonxlinx
15 күн бұрын
Perfect way to put it
@talapantedtoad6461
14 күн бұрын
@@bonxlinx yeah I wouldn’t even phrase season 4 as the worst season, I would just call it the most inconsistent.
@Lotuss808
14 күн бұрын
@@talapantedtoad6461def the worst season lol I just watched seasons 1-3 and the writing is so much better which makes sense considering season 4 had all new writers.
@matthewchitcarof5692
7 күн бұрын
Spot on. This is the worst season but ep8 was the best of the whole series imo
@franticpons7855
19 күн бұрын
That waitress reveal feels like an asspull outta nowhere. Like a cheap attempt for shock value or something. It literally adds nothing and just cheapens the character. Would've been better if Billy was inching deeper in his V-induced insanity instead of this waitress bs.
@idkidk503
19 күн бұрын
That wasn't a reveal, that was just kessler trying to say to butcher that he shouldn't listen to becca's wish as their love was always fragile and instead do what he himself wants to do.
@SlightlyInactive
19 күн бұрын
Its so bad. Sums up the whole season. Shock value for no fucking reason, its like they want to cram as much subplots as possible just to farm engagement
@franticpons7855
19 күн бұрын
@@idkidk503 You knobhead. This IS a reveal. For us as the AUDIENCE. This is the first time you are hearing about this waitress, right? Try to catch up. This is just shit writing.
@snakevenom4954
19 күн бұрын
Butcher said he remembered pulling Kessler out and saving his life. Then Kessler said he didn't. That he left him for dead in the valley. The tumor is messing with his memories
@vaultboy111
19 күн бұрын
@@snakevenom4954Exactly. I don't understand how people don't get it. Makes me think they have the attention span of a toddler.
@dceasedbrickfan74
20 күн бұрын
Dear Becky, You were with him all the way.
@Euvoia
19 күн бұрын
What an assassination on his character smh. If it were when he thought Becca died or after she acc died then that's different, if it was before they met Homelander at the party then there was no need for this imo Just cuz he's a murderer doesn't mean that he would do this. Does that mean that Hughie, MM (when he was with Monique) and starlight would cheat and it would be fine cuz it's "likely?" Besides, he was a criminal murderer at the start of s1 basically, prior to that he was in the marines/British SAS or whatever, the only reason he murdered was to get his revenge on homelander BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE KILLED BECCA Why would they reveal that he cheated on Becca outta the blue? Even if you point to him wanting to swap Ryan out in S2 finale, he did that FOR BECCA, cuz he didn't like Ryan (which makes sense as he's a Supe from homelander's r*pe) and only cared about Becca It would be 10x better if Butcher's story is kinda like Hamlet's and how losing a loved one can turn into a quest of revenge in their name while you drive those closest to you away, not because you're a "crappy murderer person" who never loved the one you're avenging
@jordanloux3883
19 күн бұрын
Billy was never a saint. He was never a hero. He's just a guy, and like most guys, they fuck up. Everyone falls down, what matters is what you do when you get back up... and Butcher is really good and tripping himself.
@Euvoia
19 күн бұрын
You don't need to be a saint to not be a cheater. And "everyone messes up" is not valid to excuse it or to write Butcher this way. This was bad plain and simple. They thought it would be good to reveal that one of our protagonists, who is fuelled by revenge, his wife being r*ped, missing and killed, actually cheated on her during their relationship before the series cuz "everyone messes up" and "butcher is just a terrible person?" Especially in the 2nd last episode of the 2nd last season. 5 years after season one. I don't think I can accept their decision to do this, but at LEAST, plain dialogue from a hallucinated character is not the time, place or long enough to reveal such a thing. And I almost feel, just like may things, this will be totally abandoned by the FINALE
@Samortez
19 күн бұрын
To be fair they haven’t specifically clarified whether this was before or after Becca went missing, the guilt of cheating could very well be his psyches regret in having sex with someone else after his wife's supposed death.
@Euvoia
19 күн бұрын
@@Samortez True true you're right. I think it would be 10x better if it happened like that instead of when they were together I do wish they Kessler could've said something that would imply that it was after her death so it's a little more clear but 🤷♂
@SlightlyInactive
19 күн бұрын
It gives the vibe there was more to it, but was cut. So many times already this season have there been one off mentions of something big, only to not be explored further. Its like, it was going to be a subplot, but was abandonded, and only bits made the cutting floor
@masterzombie161
19 күн бұрын
Honestly though I’m glad Billy is standing up to his darker impulses. Shows he’s not weak even though he’s done awful things in his past. At the end he does have everyone’s best interests at heart even though he’s a broken bastard who’s talking to ghosts.
@tonydaza8504
19 күн бұрын
That’s why he’s going to loose to homelander if he’s not honest To his real self and give in how is he going to get the job done in killing Homelander if he’s soft all of sudden
@yokehofoo3406
20 күн бұрын
hmm possible that Maeve might get pregnant with Butcher's kid
@aaronmiles2802
20 күн бұрын
Sounds like a possible storyline
@visionbhattarai7080
20 күн бұрын
yep and her child might have powers maybe cause billy was porbably in dose by that time
@Invincible554
20 күн бұрын
Possible storyline?
@YuuSmh
20 күн бұрын
she probably go for an abortion
@zeleeba8774
19 күн бұрын
@@visionbhattarai7080 Children of supes do not have abilities. Only Homelander can produce children with his abilities because he is the result of combining the sperm of Soldier Boy and Compound V and was born a supe. Maeve was just given huge doses of V in infancy.
@johans3164
20 күн бұрын
I mean Negan cheated too. Sooo.....🤣
@JustTooDamnHonest
20 күн бұрын
Takes one to know one.
@Invincible554
20 күн бұрын
The saying It takes one to know one is too literal here
@JustTooDamnHonest
20 күн бұрын
@@Invincible554 By no less true.
@hansuri401
19 күн бұрын
Lmao
@ArthurMgan
19 күн бұрын
Lucille got terminal cancer too
@Fanged.Fiend.Reactor
18 күн бұрын
Show: Butcher cheated on Becca Me: I literally don’t care, there’s more important things going on
@jordanloux3883
18 күн бұрын
Kessler is trying to break down whatever humanity Billy has. He WANTS Billy to lose faith in himself and the world and go on the mass murder spree that his subconscious wants.
@CJM94
7 күн бұрын
0:29 Kessler was right about one thing Butcher still hates Starlight and he considers Kimiko just as his weapon and nothing else
@sourth4451
9 күн бұрын
Quitting the quitting was fucking helourios
@loudtaste1046
19 күн бұрын
Dear Lord that came out of nowhere
@joseluis5055
19 күн бұрын
Why?
@dimancor2925
19 күн бұрын
Ikr
@loudtaste1046
18 күн бұрын
@@joseluis5055 that waitress thing seriously out of no where
@joseluis5055
18 күн бұрын
@@loudtaste1046 it doesn't really ruin or change anything if you ask me. In fact it just reinforces more about his character
@sayanghosh4519
18 күн бұрын
wait for more bs reveals like this we have master story tellers here after all. show has turned to absolute garbage
@the1theonlyg248
20 күн бұрын
Way to screw with the most important aspect of Butcher’s character, and what Becca’s whole purpose was: to be Billy’s one love and pull him back to the light. I guess he didn’t care enough about her until she was ‘dead’.
@johans3164
20 күн бұрын
@@the1theonlyg248 people dont appreciate things or someone until they lost it or them. There are people like that
@anieltavares7991
20 күн бұрын
Well no proves butcher is a hypocrite who’s excuses thing for his hunger for violence
@Sportify_Studio
20 күн бұрын
I can already see Butcher telling Ryan about this, causing him to hate Butcher again
@T0FFII
20 күн бұрын
It's really not that deep bro. yall really will find the smallest excuses to hate on a near perfect show .
@johans3164
20 күн бұрын
@@Sportify_Studio o lord i hope not. That would make my eye roll for sure
@benmorgan8890
19 күн бұрын
Even though we all saw the twist coming I like how it grows Butcher as a character.
@SpideruManu
10 күн бұрын
Butchet: I loved Becca. Negan: CREAMPIE MAEVE.
@snakevenom4954
19 күн бұрын
For those with their panties in a twist, the tumor is changing Butcher's memories. Butcher said he remembered saving Kessler and then Kessler said he left him to die in the valley. The tumor is trying to control Butcher by changing his memories. Also, the Tumur is eating away at Butcher. But when the tumor ate Ezekiel, he was in perfect health for a while after. He needs to keep consuming supes to stay alive
@decepticonxhunter4850
19 күн бұрын
Butcher never denied cheating on Becca though.
@snakevenom4954
19 күн бұрын
@@decepticonxhunter4850 He denied leaving Kessler to die in a ditch. When confronted with that, he claims he remembers saving him
@diegoluna2549
19 күн бұрын
It's amazing to Jeffrey that he still continues to add his negan touch to the guys with Karl's Butcher. And leaving his facts exclusively for Butcher. It's still important!!!
@GoldenKeeper255
19 күн бұрын
Butcher is doing a great job with expanding his bloodline.
@JustTooDamnHonest
20 күн бұрын
Kessler is the devil on his shoulder and well when the devil spits facts you can't help but listen.
@JustTooDamnHonest
19 күн бұрын
@tablesalt2628 Redemption only works when you mean it and Butcher is still playing at someone who is honorable when we know he isn't and that he would stop at nothing to kill Homelander. The thing that makes The Boys is that there are no heroes. Becca even in the comics knew that Billy was no different then Homelander and that his rage would consume him in the end and it did.
@JustTooDamnHonest
19 күн бұрын
@tablesalt2628 Yeah and I also know that he has made some pretty amateur mistakes like shooting Neuman in the head when he should know that is not going to do jack or sh*t(unless he was doing that to be a c*nt himself then it would still pretty rookie of him). Billy isn't becoming good for he is fighting against his rage that took the form of Kessler and his sanity that took the form of Becca on top of him dying. Becca herself in the comics knew that Billy was pass saving and yet she still married him for some reason and well that didn't end well for The Boys and unless Billy is going to have a massive change and he becomes a hero then Billy is going to give into his rage and maybe he might actual kill Homelander like he could've more then once. Billy is going to have to make a choice and the only reason he hasn't gone off the rails is due to his team that he has gone behind their back more than once just to saint his rage and in the comics he kills that time and Hughie killed Billy shortly after. All we know is that the showdown is going to be at the White House and it isn't going to go down like in the comics. But the stage will be at the White House none the less.
@russianhunger8784
19 күн бұрын
@tablesalt2628 well he should've already known that supes are not affected by bullets. They are either bulletproof like homelander or have strong regeneration like kimiko
@SoyDiegoRivera
19 күн бұрын
Has everyone forgot that he was f*cking Rayner? 😭
@trevorwalton5431
19 күн бұрын
It's not like Becca never fucked anybody by behind Butcher's back
@negano5654
18 күн бұрын
That was in the comics...and Becca was already dead.
@dragon091327
19 күн бұрын
Maybe the reason they’re bringing up the Cream P is maybe, just here me out, it results in a kid that ultimately helps give Butcher the ammunition he needs to tell Tumor Negan to fuck off?
@Impulsessave
12 күн бұрын
After the end of season 4, i think what will happen is Annie fleas to meet Maeve and her girlfriend. When she gets there she sees Maeve and her girlfriend raising a 1-2 year old child which is revealed to be Butchers’.
@Reality-Distortion
11 күн бұрын
We'd need a huge timeskip just for that, I don't see it happening.
@Impulsessave
10 күн бұрын
@@Reality-Distortion I’m pretty sure 1-2 years has already passed since the events of season 3 to the end of season 4. So there’s no need
@GamerFrisco
12 күн бұрын
What a charming conversation.
@calamityarmityle3086
18 күн бұрын
I could be wrong but I think Kessler is supposed to be the personification of the monster inside of butcher's head talking to him. When it wouldnt come out during the Deep + Noir fight and Kessler said "silent treatment goes both ways", that showed to me he's the monster inside butcher's body speaking to his head.
@RagnelEric
20 күн бұрын
Damn Billy bred Maeve 😮
@rishabhraj1663
19 күн бұрын
So that's what it means like when negan says cream pied meave also who was that waitress
@mrmccrunchymcdonald2966
19 күн бұрын
@@rishabhraj1663Some random chick
@errorx_x1063
19 күн бұрын
@@mrmccrunchymcdonald2966 I imagine it was on THAT day when HL was with Becca. Let's be honest, that would be this show's weird karma
@Impulsessave
12 күн бұрын
After the end of season 4, i think what will happen is Annie fleas to meet Maeve and her girlfriend. When she gets there she sees Maeve and her girlfriend raising a 1-2 year old child which is revealed to be Butchers’.
@indra_vrtrahan
19 күн бұрын
Its like Comic Butcher talking to Him
@MrTrincent
17 күн бұрын
They really took something here for a bit of shock value. It really undermines him.
@simonjack9699
19 күн бұрын
Negan is just jealous Queen Maeve isn't one of his wives 😂
@ashleybrooke2087
19 күн бұрын
When you have JDM in your head but it's the evil version, not the nice, friendly one.
@newhybrid101
20 күн бұрын
Ryan is a complicated matter He can be great but he can also be a problem. Its risky killing him cause he is the only one who,if he grows up,can CERTAINLY defeat Homelander based on statements. Its has been stated by the writers in interview that when he became enraged with Stormfront,his heat vision FAR surpassed that of his father. So its not just a fan theory,it was officially confirmed by the writers. For a moment he accessed his potential When he reaches full physical maturity he will always be that powerful and physically as well. However thats when he will FAR surpass Homelander,if we are talking about even BARELY surpassing him then that would happen earlier before peak physical maturity. If he kills Ryan and somehow Homelander survives then Homelander will worse than ever and with no one to stop him. He would ACTUALLY destroy everything and all of humanity. Ryan can become like Superman,or he can become a far more powerful Homelander or most likely something between which seems where its going due to him having both his mothers humanity and characteristics from Homelander. Better than a virus,the radiation from Soldier Boy is much safer,it can depower without killing. They should find a way to study Soldier Boys ability and harness it in a more accessible way. That way Homelander would get what he truly deserves,not having power,he would be just a skinny dude and vulnerable to many. Killing him is better than he deserves.
@aombiezandy3136
17 күн бұрын
Wow this totally added to the plot!!
@weierphonix276
19 күн бұрын
Negan: the imaginary friend 😂😂
@rg8768
19 күн бұрын
Butcher never cheated on Becca in the comics. He might be unhinged but I’m not accepting this change in story. Idk why they’d put that in the show. Still gonna watch obv
@WhyTho525
19 күн бұрын
The Tumor (aka Kessler) is fucking with Billy's memories hence why Billy thought that Kessler was real and that he saved him. It's probably the same case again here. Or Billy was actually blacked out when he cheated and quit drinking altogether the next day as he said.
@rg8768
18 күн бұрын
@@WhyTho525 it’s too late to introduce more unnecessary subplots. Just like the frenchie stuff was also unnecessary to move the story forward
@nicholasmendoza5844
19 күн бұрын
Then butcher in the final episode: I'm negan
@Ash-Winchester
19 күн бұрын
This revelation feels a little needless. The thing that makes billy such an interesting character is his desire to avenge his wife, the very loss of her is primarily what shapes his cynical view of supes in the first place. We've seen him push himself back and forth between ruthless anti hero and full fledged villainy in order to achieve these goals, the kind of pushing boundaries that makes morally gray characters like him so interesting. And now we've been hit with a bombshell that is trying to tell us that becca really didn't mean all that much to him. This is a huge problem narratively speaking. It's been made clear several times by butcher himself that he became a better man because of her, that she saved him from becoming the kind of despicable person his father tried to beat him and his brother into becoming. Their relationship wasn't just founded on gratitude, he did very clearly love her. She was the light of his world, he practically worshipped the ground she walked, and he was happy being with her. But all of that happiness came crashing down around him after she's assaulted by homelander and supposedly dies giving birth to his son, resulting in a tailspin of actions that bring out the butcher in billy. If becca was someone that he took for granted, if she really was someone that could be an afterthought after violating the sanctity of his marriage by hooking up with some random waitress, then what was the whole point of him joining the boys in the first place? It feels like the writers are trying to sully his motivations so they can make out to be a worse person than he actually is. Something that I feel is a little unwarranted, because we're all fully aware that in terms of morals, billy is far from a paragon of virtue.
@addictedtochocolate920
19 күн бұрын
The fact that you have been a terrible person should never be an excuse to keep at it. You know what you did, but what will you do now? That's the important question.
@markhenzel4637
20 күн бұрын
Oh...so he cheat with a random waitress? I dont get it first time watching it. I thought he meant Maeve as "waitress"
@abrothewarrior98
20 күн бұрын
yeah a random waitress
@Pwilliams4000
19 күн бұрын
Yup
@JKBDTS
19 күн бұрын
He did it with Maeve after Becca died.
@brickguy209huang4
19 күн бұрын
Tyler Durden in a nutshell
@mahamabbasi5237
13 күн бұрын
I firmly believe that is kessler just messing up his thoughts to bring butcher into the darkness. He did it for his own death making butcher believe he is alive so why not this.
@brandontrinidad9091
20 күн бұрын
Negan you better give billy butcher your barbed wire baseball bat
@zeynaviegas
20 күн бұрын
i want to believe this either didnt happen, or happen in some other time, because its such a weird plot point to bring about.... i want to believe kessler is telling him this as a means of manipulation... i mean, he made butcher believe he saved him for a long time, when he actually just let him die. i want to believe...
@throwitouttheairlock9556
19 күн бұрын
I mean Kessler did modify butchers memory to make it seem like he WASNT a hallucination, so it’s not out of his range of abilities to do this to manipulate butcher
@Stefano-ri5xf
19 күн бұрын
the kessler tumor is fucking up his memories and brains so yeh this could just be him changing when things took place and such
@ethanacosta9107
19 күн бұрын
Say what you want but Billy’s arc is literally carrying this whole season along with M.M.
@Lakota828
19 күн бұрын
Antony Starr's acting is carrying this season. I went from hating Homelander (which, again, great acting,) to looking forward to seeing Antony's performance when he is in the scene.
@shelbyrobinson1835
14 күн бұрын
This is definitely Negan’s evil twin brother
@Xong217
20 күн бұрын
We need a flashback of what the real kessler was like and why butcher left him for dead
@jerrydunk1164
20 күн бұрын
Tune in next week for the disappointing season finale lol
@spideyfan1278
19 күн бұрын
These leaks keep turning out to be true, no matter how absurd they sound.
@user-bz7hz4jl1t
19 күн бұрын
Ikr its disappointing. I feel like a lot of this season could have been written better imo. Like the plot armor some of these characters have or just them making dumb decisions to keep the show going. Hughie should be dead when he was in the vents and the deep should've died this episode. Then this scene randomly undermines Butcher's main character motivation. Like I get wanting to show he's a hypocrite or that he's a menace but with something so tangentially important to his character it just seems so far off the dot
@MrGrimlock1
19 күн бұрын
SO THAT MEANS MORE SOLDIER BOY LESS GO
@spideyfan1278
19 күн бұрын
@@MrGrimlock1 Yea. But it also means Annie is gonna abandon Hughie.
@user-bz7hz4jl1t
19 күн бұрын
@@MrGrimlock1 literally the best part of season 3. Hopefully he’s as much a baller in season 5
@MrGrimlock1
19 күн бұрын
@@spideyfan1278 MORE FORCED DRAMA LESS GO
@deadpoolchimichangas7111
19 күн бұрын
Well damn, Negan is giving it to Butcher
@justinmoody9164
19 күн бұрын
Ngl I thought Butcher was going to get mad and Worm out lol… Showing us a glimpse of what happened to Ezekiel
@harryrun3754
19 күн бұрын
Imagine he just does the worm and it makes people explode.
@cinematastic1814
19 күн бұрын
I know everyone is mad about butcher cheating on Becca but keep in mind they left a lot out. It’s said that Butcher quit drinking the next day. At the beginning of last season it was established he had stopped drinking. It’s possible this happened after Becca’s death in season 2 and he just considered it cheating. Or it could have been while she disappeared. I would say wait for more evidence before jumping to conclusions. If it actually was while he was with Becca before season then it’s definitely a big character assassination.
@Fantastic-rp3lc
19 күн бұрын
Well in s2 Butcher was about to separate Becca from Ryan and even got to the point of doing a deal with Edgar. So he's been established to be a cunt who's able to break the trust of his loved ones to pursue his own interests. Very unexpected but honesty i can see it
@Brandonweifu
19 күн бұрын
Nah its on brand.butcher is not a good person.even with Becca he wavered.it happens sadly
@gaminginvirinch3339
19 күн бұрын
@@Brandonweifu so? Even scums are loyal that's what the relationship here and Butcher has been like that, no indication of why he cheated on the maid, it's a character assassination
@Fanged.Fiend.Reactor
18 күн бұрын
Who the hell is mad about that?
@senororlando2
19 күн бұрын
Bold of the writers to assume anybody gives a shit about Butcher, Becca, MM or Frenchie anymore
@Brandonweifu
19 күн бұрын
The hundred comments furious of butchers "character assasination" say otherwise
@sayanghosh4519
18 күн бұрын
bold not to include hughie here.
@hieunguyenrileygekko
19 күн бұрын
Joe: damn you, Billy when you said fck the supes, i didnt think you would actually do it with Maeve
@LegendaryHeroponRiki
17 күн бұрын
i like how people still call him negan
@PedroOrdep-kv5vw
19 күн бұрын
I've been defending this season's writting so far, but this, this is shock value made wrong, the whole point of Billy is his revenge for the only thing that he loves, Becca. This doesn't make you think "omg he's such a pso", this actually undervalues the entire character and his reasons.
@JohnDanielRay1
19 күн бұрын
We always knew Billy had a pent up amount of evil in him, so now we gotta question which side of him goes to heart. How can it be for shock value when the only thing it does is make his character more complex? Fucking rabbit even I UNDERSTOOD THIS.
@NyiPyaeSone
19 күн бұрын
I disagree. The show has shows us multiple time and Butcher is a bastard and would hurt the one he love, that his character. Him cheating doesn’t mean he didn’t love Becca it just means he is a piece of shit and bad human being but now he’s trying to be better and make up for his mistakes it just make him more complex. Ffs Butcher lies, manipulates and kills people what make you think he wouldn’t cheat
@PedroOrdep-kv5vw
19 күн бұрын
@tablesalt2628 my point is they could've done this in a less undermining way. It just feels thrown out there to cause a reaction from the viewer and not something that was thought up for a long time. It felt forced *In my opinion*.
@PedroOrdep-kv5vw
19 күн бұрын
@@NyiPyaeSone his wife is his whole arc motivation for last 3 seasons. Now it's another, they don't really need to shit on the last arc to work on the new one, it feels lazy.
@PedroOrdep-kv5vw
19 күн бұрын
@tablesalt2628 they didn't really need to do the whole cheating thing. There are better ways to make him a pso without making less of his entire reason for being a character in the first place.
@hakulip
19 күн бұрын
So did becca
@blakeforkins7375
19 күн бұрын
I hope this gets explained in episode 8 cuz right now, I’m really confused. Is Kessler referring that he did it shortly after Becca died and before he quit drinking in the beginning of season 3, or when she was missing, or when she was still around?
@makokx7063
19 күн бұрын
I'd imagine it was while they were together. When she went missing it was assumed she was dead and sleeping with someone if your spouse is dead isn't cheating. Many alcoholics follow a pattern of fucking up big, regretting it, cleaning up their act, then falling back into the old habits when things get tough.
@blakeforkins7375
18 күн бұрын
@@makokx7063 I was gonna say cuz the only time that I can think of when Butcher quit drinking was at the start at season 3. But it threw me off when Butcher said he fucked up and Kessler was making such a huge deal about it. If that’s the case, what was the point of that? Butcher already did a ton of bad shit, we don’t need to throw cheating on his wife in there. Especially since she was the main reason Butcher wanted to kill Homelander in the first place
@makokx7063
18 күн бұрын
@@blakeforkins7375 Can't say. In the comic he was a much much bigger pos than he is in the show, but he never cheated on his wife in the comic either. I don't know if the writers wanted to drive home that he's a garbage human through and through? Really don't know what's going on with this season.
@blakeforkins7375
18 күн бұрын
@@makokx7063 oh I know. I read the comics too. And I’m hoping that that’s not the direction they’re going with in the show, at least not to that extent. I do like the idea of the Angel and Devil on his shoulders and he’s at odds with both sides of himself. And the possibility of a Venom symbiote situation going on. But turning Butcher into a full on villain from this point onwards? Guess we’ll see what happens. Just hoping this version wouldn’t go as far as to kill The Boys themselves, y’know?
@Drifter1989
19 күн бұрын
Just rewatched Butcher meeting Homelander, he had a drink in his hand so how’d he quit the booze unless it just so happened to be a soft drink.
@guap_yt1627
19 күн бұрын
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THAT BUTCHER CHEATED
@joseluis5055
19 күн бұрын
Why? You can't the believe the brutal murderer would go so low as to cheat 😱 Come on man
@idkidk503
19 күн бұрын
He's a terrible person who is more than willing to kill innocent people to get what he wants. Cheating is very in character for him, he is NOT a good man
@tejasiyer1923
19 күн бұрын
@@joseluis5055 he wasnt a brutal murderer when becca was alive. What homelander did to becca and her disappearance was the catalyst causing him to become morally gray and be willing to kill innocents
@joseluis5055
19 күн бұрын
@@tejasiyer1923 he was already a murderer. He worked in shady special forces, a few with Joe Kessler. Homelander raping Becca and her disappearance is what caused his wrath to be directed at Vought and Supes, but that doesn't mean he was perfect with Becca. We know he has a habit of being shitty even with people he loves
@EliHank
19 күн бұрын
lmao why not ?
@Dottol-
19 күн бұрын
Man.. kinda feels like they threw that in for the sake of it
@joseluis5055
19 күн бұрын
No, it was to further proof that this is a path Butcher is doing for the sake of his own revenge. It's like Mallory said, always selfish and never actually about Becca or Ryan. He's shitty to even the people he loves the most
@Dottol-
19 күн бұрын
@@joseluis5055 then why Beccas promise mean so much to him
@joseluis5055
19 күн бұрын
@@Dottol- just because he cares about Becca it doesn't mean he was prefect with her or didn't fuck her over, like he's done with other people he cares about.
@Impulsessave
12 күн бұрын
After the end of season 4, i think what will happen is Annie fleas to meet Maeve and her girlfriend. When she gets there she sees Maeve and her girlfriend raising a 1-2 year old child which is revealed to be Butchers’.
@simonjack9699
19 күн бұрын
I always thought it would be a twist if butcher got Maeve Pregnant
@sweettooth4759
19 күн бұрын
Ngl I hope Kessler meant that he cheated when Becca was already missing. I know Butcher’s not a good guy but this seems very out of nowhere to me
@loudtaste1046
19 күн бұрын
It ruins the whole thing if they were together when that happened
@newhybrid101
19 күн бұрын
Nah a lot of husband cheat atleast once throughout their whole marriage. You dont hear it cause they normally hide it. I would say like 60% of husbands have cheated
@billybob4532
19 күн бұрын
@@newhybrid101Statistics say 20%
@Fantastic-rp3lc
19 күн бұрын
I mean, in s2 Butcher was about to separate Becca from Ryan and even got to the point of doing a deal with Edgar. So he's been established to be a cunt who's able to break the trust of his loved ones to pursue his own interests
@tritonus162
19 күн бұрын
@tablesalt2628True love, in real life, would make it so that alcohol doesn't make you cheat. Alcohol reduces your inhibition to resist urges, and when you love someone (and if you care about morals and whatnot, but eh), your urges are not to fuck the closest thing to me. Besides, Butcher being an alcoholic when with Becca reads like a retcon, and his cheating given his characterisation seems like a cheap plot point done for the sake of having Kessler undermine him. If Kessler wasn't the plot point, I sincerely doubt they'd have written his infidelity in, especially considering all that we've seen.
@SirGretz
19 күн бұрын
S4 has been the season of retcons 🤣🤣🤣
@tritonus162
19 күн бұрын
@tablesalt2628Him being an alcoholic when he was with her somewhat is.
@alternateworldzhan4234
19 күн бұрын
The most normal talk vetween Billy Butcher and Negan
@James-pb4nv
19 күн бұрын
Negan really does an amazing job of playing Kessler, and jeffery dean morgan off screan. Hes got Homelanders skill when it comes to Antony star
@zbraggerjutu1871
19 күн бұрын
we’ve all done it🤷🏾♂️
@JohnWick-kb5jr
19 күн бұрын
Nah, “we” haven’t. Cheaters will never understand how to truly love someone, they’re too self absorbed.
@newhybrid101
19 күн бұрын
@@JohnWick-kb5jrPersonally i just refuse true relationships for that reason,i refuse to cheat but there is also no way i will just shit iddle with any one woman,i just like too many,there are many women i am attracted to. I only met ONE woman,at a business meeting that if she liked me i would want a true relationship with and not want any other but she is considerably older and doesnt like me I dont want to cheat cause my father cheated on my mother countless times and i like going against him. Luckily for me,i dont feel urges for a true relationship,i dont feel a lot of that stuff that others seem to feel. Not even a thing about too high standards appearance wise,i just dont like people in general
@MrGrimlock1
19 күн бұрын
Nah buddy, someone who never cheated may never do it, but someone who does will always cheat
@RivithOi
14 күн бұрын
"We?🤨 Who's we?" -Walter White
@CrimsonFIame
20 күн бұрын
Completely unnecessary. I prefer knowing he delved into madness after losing his light aka Becca rather than this hE WaS aLWays horrible nonsense. The writing really has been getting worse.
@anieltavares7991
20 күн бұрын
Well start thinking with your head It tells us that butcher always was full of shit and that everything he gave a reason to fight for was just an excuse of justification for his acts of violence which he enjoys and in s4 he faces that side of him and finally really cares. I am not saying he never cared for becca, I am saying that he always just took it as an excuse and justification for violence
@BerserkKnight
20 күн бұрын
@@anieltavares7991The writers aren't even thinking with their head anymore so don't expect the viewers to.
@stephamein3545
19 күн бұрын
@@anieltavares7991my man last episode was a filler bullshit with almost to none plot progressing narrative. At this point, its easy to say the writing's falling off
@JohnDanielRay1
19 күн бұрын
@@anieltavares7991This is something the shows been exploring since season 2 ffs
@jordanriley1436
17 күн бұрын
I don’t understand why people are so mad about this! Butcher has always been terrible AND he loves Becca. That was made clear all the way back in season 2.
@bobsagetsconcubine2866
18 күн бұрын
The title of this video and the thumbnail kinda imply that butcher cheated on his wife with Kessler 😂
@jestre3742
18 күн бұрын
😂
@awsm2535
15 күн бұрын
What do you think y'all? Homelander and Becca have a supe son named Ryan. Maeve and Butcher have a normal daughter named Ruby?
@horatiohornbie7395
19 күн бұрын
This show is written so badly.... degeneracy instead of plot... how creative.
@kultaseppa
20 күн бұрын
Show is going south
@aaronmiles2802
20 күн бұрын
Big time
@muratbayraktar5035
20 күн бұрын
Since mid season 2. But with the season 3 finale it took a nose dive. Right now it’s just unsalvageable shit.
@shashwatmishraalumni4918
20 күн бұрын
@@muratbayraktar5035lol I don't know u arevwatching the same show mate Better go and watch some Disney marvel lol
@Sportify_Studio
20 күн бұрын
Freal it's all over the place with all the ass pull sub plots, still better than the Comics version by far though so I guess that's something to be proud of
@sirmackavelli1819
19 күн бұрын
@@muratbayraktar5035it ain’t that bad bro this whole season while not as good as s3 or even 2 feels more like a setup for the final season but it isn’t as bad as your saying it is We still have some crazy moments some are weird af don’t get me wrong but that’s the boys for you I wouldn’t call it unsalvagable
@Lowkenn_Edits
19 күн бұрын
It makes sense that these actions would be brought up only now. Butcher obvously regreats cheating on Becca. Kessler is the bad side of Butcher and constantly brings up his bad past and actions.
@thunderlighting2006
19 күн бұрын
Omg they're going down this route?
@Bread-nx9fo
20 күн бұрын
Yet another needless subplot like Frenchie and Kimiko's in this season. The writing really fell off a cliff
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