A calvanist fell down the stairs. Upon standing up, he said thank God that's over.
@Socialist88
Жыл бұрын
a Christian receives a check for 10 Gs Signed God the Father and says "thanks jesus"
@Socialist88
Жыл бұрын
@Chris Armstrong no he's not, Jesus says to hate your parents and God says to honor them, Jesus says ignore the sabbath that he broke himself and God says his laws are forever, Jesus said the father was greater and Jesus says he's the morning star in Revelation 22 16 which is the ot lucifer
@joev2223
Жыл бұрын
Did Satan afflict Job on his own authority?
@travishowett7651
Жыл бұрын
@Joe V no. Only because job had a hedge of protection. How did job get this hedge of protection? Righteousness. Matthew 23:37 KJV O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
@joev2223
Жыл бұрын
@@travishowett7651 All believers do. Jude 1:24. Jesus prayed for Peter, that his faith fail not. Satan doesn't afflict believers as he pleases.
@extremelycreativeusername3190
Жыл бұрын
I do find it comedic that in these shorts of people winning arguements against themselves, they always make the opposing side scramble together the weakest arguements😂
@Caderic
Жыл бұрын
I think the same thing. They never use the "expert" level argument, they always take the most shallow argument possible, as if it's the deepest argument out there. It makes their argument seem so much more robust in comparison. It is a false front.
@bruh-so8vp
9 ай бұрын
Yup! They make the other person look like an idiot and use the weakest and wimpiest version of the other sides argument as possible. If he actually used the best possible argument on both sides, then he wouldn't be a calvinist anymore.
@HelloTygr
8 ай бұрын
The point of these shorts is not to answer the most robust challenges. The point is to answer common challenges. You are correct that this challenge is weak, but it is very common.
@totem_king4284
6 ай бұрын
@@bruh-so8vp 😂😂😂😂 sureeeee 😂😂😂😂
@bruh-so8vp
6 ай бұрын
@@totem_king4284 what boy?
@craigsherman4480
Жыл бұрын
God desires all men to be saved.
@iamthasecond
11 ай бұрын
Yes, but he knows not all men will be saved while still having mercy on whom he will have mercy. That's the complete picture.
@craigsherman4480
11 ай бұрын
@@iamthasecond Completely agree. It is what we would call God’s permissive will.
@falcon00jr75
9 ай бұрын
And yet He also demands perfect obedience. If God only desires, yet man is utterly unable to save himself (due to sin nature), then the death of Christ was for nothing. God more than desires. He makes dead sinners alive in Christ.
@craigsherman4480
9 ай бұрын
@@falcon00jr75 While he might demand perfect obedience, he knows that it is impossible for us. That is why he gives us an open invitation, through his Grace, to return to him begging for forgiveness. If we choose to come back to him, he will welcome us with open arms. However, if we turn away from him, he will allow us to.
@falcon00jr75
8 ай бұрын
@@craigsherman4480 Right, He demands perfection and Jesus fulfilled all aspects of the law, which I could not. Christ was sinless and His righteousness is imputed to me! What good news!
@derrickpurdy7011
Жыл бұрын
The irony is that God didn't violate the free will of Jonah. He simply gave Jonah another choice to consider.
@petersebastion7596
Жыл бұрын
How about the “free will” of Pharaoh? God purposefully hardened his heart.
@masont2429
Жыл бұрын
Jonah died and was brought back to life as a sign
@Tebbs31
Жыл бұрын
@@petersebastion7596Read the story again. Scripture said that Pharoah hardened his own heart the first many times. God was just helping him along since a hard heart is exactly what Pharoah wanted. Jonah also was given many opportunities to walk away from the destruction that happens when we try walk on our own and away from God. It’s also imperative to notice that God prepared a fish for the Salvation of Jonah. You could say that God prepared him a prayer room. Lol 😆
@petersebastion7596
Жыл бұрын
@@Tebbs31 I’ve read the story many times. It’s clear. Exodus 9:12 perfectly communicates that God hardened Pharoah’s heart. Romans 9:18 even reinforces that God hardened Pharoah’s heart. For He says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.” 16So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. 17For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” 18Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens. God…is a God, Joshua. Man’s “free will” stops where God’s Sovereignty begins.
@Tebbs31
Жыл бұрын
@@petersebastion7596 Sure it does! I never denied that. Perhaps you missed my point. Or… Maybe you just ignored it entirely… Either way, It speaks to an end. I could also dissect the context of Romans 9 to its utter exhaustion, but I don’t think that would be a wise investment of my time. Theological and philosophical retort could benefit, but I doubt it’s veracity would be sufficient persuasion. Especially since “free will” is bankrupt within both of our convictions. Depending on your worldview and understanding of philosophical thought, that is.
@AV_4C
Жыл бұрын
The Calvinist confusion: You choose freely what has been chosen for you from before the foundation of the world…
@JohnGarcia-de5kf
Жыл бұрын
💀💀
@iamthasecond
11 ай бұрын
Is it? I think the more accurate view is that we choose freely, but we choose freely based on whether we are God's elect or not... which no one can objectively determine.
@falcon00jr75
9 ай бұрын
If we all are sinful from birth, then there is nobody who is righteous in God's sight until they experience the New Birth. Once you are alive in Christ (by power of the Holy Spirit), you are now ABLE to CHOOSE rightly to believe. That's biblical. God's sovereignty establishes man's free will. However, most Arminians would disagree with that statement. Both Jesus and Paul and pretty clear establishing God as the energy in saving people. (gospel of John & Romans for easy reading).
@bruh-so8vp
9 ай бұрын
@@johnsixfourteefour629 choosing something freely that has already been predestined for you is a contradiction. It literally isn't a choice. If God predestined me to sin, then it wasn't my choice. He made me a sinner. God then becomes the Father of sin. Calvinism is just a group of fools tap dancing on logic, and ignoring their contradictions in order to justify their beliefs. Muslims do it, Catholics do it, athiests do it pertaining to morality.
@nellipalchevskaya2680
8 ай бұрын
The thing is we don’t choose.. we are chosen. That’s what the Bible states. If you’re a supposed believer, you either believe what the Bible states or not. Don’t be a cherry picker
@MarcoGonzaG
Жыл бұрын
Jonah without free will does not make sense...
@iamthasecond
11 ай бұрын
Jonah had free will... God knew the decisions Jonah was going to make and guided him to his purpose despite his imperfect decisions. That's not mutually exclusive.
@artifacthunter1472
11 ай бұрын
Your free will is all presupposition it’s not in the Bible!
@iamthasecond
11 ай бұрын
@artifacthunter1472 Adam and Eve? Plus even in the Jonah instance, Jonah chose to disobey God, until God set him straight 🤷🏽♂️
@cadestekly7271
10 ай бұрын
Logically that makes no sense, God wishes all to come to repentance(2 Perter 3:9), but if we are not responsible for our repentance and God wants all of us to repent, than everyone would have repented.
@kingmatrix1345
10 ай бұрын
@@cadestekly7271do you read?! 1 Peter 1:1-2 the Any that Paul mentions is the elect who God chose in different locations around Asia Minor and Greece 🇬🇷 1st and 2nd Peter are 2 fold letter to the elect🙄
@halodisciple8459
Жыл бұрын
Jonah still had a choice.......he wasn't forced.
@joev2223
Жыл бұрын
After what Jonah went through, I think he figured out that he'd just better do what he was asked.
@halodisciple8459
Жыл бұрын
@Joe V True, but Jonah's free will wasn't taken away. He still had the choice to do what God said or face further punishment. None of the Bible verses he quoted implies that God will take away someone's free choice.
@joev2223
Жыл бұрын
@@halodisciple8459 Calvinists don't deny freewill, they just teach it properly. God can't be in control of all things and we're in control of all things. Concerning freewill prior to conversion, man is bound by his fallen nature. He will not believe that which is foolish to him. His nature is deadness in sin and transgressions, he doesn't make himself alive. If he, while dead in sins and transgressions, believed, he would have made himself alive with Christ. Things had already happened/are happening before man believes. Besides that, we are taught plainly that man, by grace, believes.
@leviwilliams9601
Жыл бұрын
Are will does not take precedent over God's will.
@cwstewartjr1973
Жыл бұрын
God isn't in control of anything on earth. That went away when he gave dominion to man over the earth
@dougscarberry6187
Жыл бұрын
I am a FreeWill Baptist. I strongly believe without Repentance there is no Salvation. Repenting is a Choice not something God forces a person to do.
@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz
Жыл бұрын
Scripture doesn't teach we have a choice in repenting Psalms 110:3
@dougscarberry6187
Жыл бұрын
@@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz Luke 13:3? Lest you Repent you will likewise perish. 2Peter 3:9 Not God’s Will that any should perish, but all should come to repentance. Revelation 2:21 I gave her space to Repent of her fornication and she repented not. The Bible teaches a lot about repentance, but the church doesn’t.
@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz
Жыл бұрын
@@dougscarberry6187 that's because the Ekklisia(Church), are a small group of true Believers that God has called out of the World to teach and fellowship in truth when you say ''Church'' that is a title that these so called false converts say to attract a crowd, but that doesn't mean its ''church'' in other words the real Church of God are invisible to the World
@nunyabusiness5275
Жыл бұрын
Well that's heresy, because the Bible says Esau found no chance for repentance. Sounds like he wanted to, but he wasn't able to
@cloudx4541
Жыл бұрын
@@nunyabusiness5275 do believe Esau and his descendants were not chosen by God for salvation?
@andrejjackson3890
Жыл бұрын
Jonah's story is literally a story of freewill and God's mercy; saving both Jonah(he chooses to run and chooses to jump off the ship) and Nineveh(chooses to repent)
@Gablesman888
10 ай бұрын
Jonah was a believer ab initio (in the story). Lost people are not in that state called to be prophets.
@ihiohoh2708
6 ай бұрын
Not having free will doesn't mean you can't make choices. What that means is everyone is born enslaved to sin. You're "dead" and you don't "seek for God." So therefore God has to enable you first. Don't fall into the Pelagian heresy. Even Arminians agree with some level of depravity.
@andrejjackson3890
6 ай бұрын
@@ihiohoh2708 That's a good point. Animals make decisions but I don't believe they have free will. The difference between humans and animals is we intentionally prepare for what WILL happen based upon our motives(desires); proving if our intentions WILL be for good or evil. Animals are programed to react and prepare for events based on their motive(programing). Secondly, true, no one seeks for God first cuz He first loved us to create us in the first place. We were created though; with a purpose and position, name and rank all in mind for His pleasure and yes, is all predestined but free will comes to play when we're placed in the right position but choose to look a different direction. Pastors for example were destined to be pastors but you can either choose, based on motives stated earlier, to lead your flock to Christ or death. I will heed your warning after I look up the definition for that heresy but I wonder why you didn't say, "Don't allow God to lead you into heresy" lol or I could just be missin somethin. Also, the all caps words are not for sarcasm but to show consistency in the theory.
@andrejjackson3890
6 ай бұрын
@@Gablesman888 sorry for the late response, I never was notified or missed the notification but I believe ppl have free will regardless if they are Christian believers or not. I have a feeling I'm missing your point but blessings either way
@GavinBeenReconciled
5 ай бұрын
The assertion is that we do freely make moral choices, and outside of God moving on us, we choose evil and rebellion
@CrimKazanawa
Жыл бұрын
This is why I immediately make the distinction between free will and free agency. Explaining the idea of constrained wills becomes simple once people recognize that only God's will is free because only His will is unconstrained. He can do whatever He wants, whenever He wants. Everyone else's will is constrained by time, location, ability, et cetera. It's not free. Agency, on the other hand, is our freedom to make choice within that constrained will. We are completely able to choose whatever we want, and I will even grant the possibility of it being within our power to choose God (in a conversation to remain peaceful; scripture clearly states that we are dead until God causes us to be alive in Him, thus having no power to choose God since the dead can do nothing); our problem is that, because of the Fall, even if it is within our power to choose God it is not within our desire without the intervention of God Himself. The interesting thing is that I find the question to be misplaced. Why are we more concerned with having free will than good will? Ironically, showing good will is to freely lay down your own will. The greatest among us are to be servants of all, and we are to be slaves to righteousness. If you're willingly laying down your will, why worry about whether that will was free? Personally, as an aside, I tend to like Luther's term of "The Bondage of the Will".
@owenshippy7240
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, I like the way you explained this. In a way I don’t think I’ve ever thought of before, makes sense. Thanks for commenting
@levigarrett5614
Жыл бұрын
Also, as Luther pointed out our will is bound by sin
@maximushermanite
Ай бұрын
Probably the best explanation I’ve ever read about the biblical free will debacle. Thanks for the insight👍
@jonmaster5000
Жыл бұрын
The bible says “all will be without excuse.” The best excuse ever would be “I was born in total depravity, you never elected me-so Christ limited atonement never applied to me- you never sent after me irresistible grace, and ensured I persevered to the end.”
@daven8905
10 ай бұрын
You took that entire verse out of context. “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.” Romans 1:18-20 ESV Men are unable to claim that they did not know God existed or that they were accountable to Him, because His attributes are clearly perceived, for example, by simply looking at creation, which is proof of a creator. It goes on to say that men KNOW God, but refuse to honor Him, so they are justly condemned. You do realize that people go to hell because they reject God and are sinful and wicked right? You talk like people to go hell because they simply weren’t picked for the team. All those who are condemned are condemned justly for their wickedness. That’s the entire point of the necessity for people being saved in the first place.
@jonmaster5000
10 ай бұрын
@@daven8905 hey, thank you for your reply. I think we are actually in agreement on why people go to Hell and that it isn’t for lack of knowledge but a willful rejection of God. My objection is with how this is compatible with 5 point Calvinism. Because the former asserts God predestined sinners before all time to engage in the behaviour that sends them to hell but doesn’t send the irresistible Grace that would lead them to faith, regeneration and salvation after them.
@daven8905
10 ай бұрын
@@jonmaster5000 no problem! We ought be having civil dialogues as fellow believers, right? I’d submit that your view of the negative side of predestination is not quite accurate, maybe? You tell me if this is what you were thinking. Men’s sinful behavior isn’t predetermined, there’s no puppetry. Your objection makes it sound to me like, if DP were true, those who go to hell are sent there unjustly, but the Bible does clearly teach that men are justly responsible for their sin, and that’s all affirmed in reformed theology. All are men are sinful and if every single person who ever lived in history were sent to hell, that would be just. All have sinned and fallen short, and election unto salvation is the exception. So, in a sense, everyone is predestined to hell, except those that aren’t.
@Gablesman888
10 ай бұрын
That would be Judas' defense at the GWTJ. So you are confident that would get him off?
@josephwilliams6586
9 ай бұрын
@@daven8905all sin and fall short. Some are saved and some aren't. So what's the difference maker? Is it deciding to believe in Jesus or is it God forcing you to believe in Jesus? God saves who he decides to save. After surveying scripture, it's pretty clear to me that he bases that decision on whether we decide to believe in Jesus. It's impossible to make an argument that he desires all to be saved when he makes specific people for the purpose of condemnation. Otherwise Jesus lied when he said he came to save the world. He wouldn't have come to save the world, but the elect only. If you look at election the way Calvinists view election, for one it's inconsistent with the way Jews defined election and that's clear from second temple period writings, but it also gets into some pretty dark corners when you start asking questions like where did evil come from. Even Sproul admitted there wasn't a good Calvinist explanation for that. I gave Calvinism a really hard look because I have a lot of respect for several Calvinist preachers, but it just doesn't hold up across the board.
@cooljams_jams
Жыл бұрын
I was Arminian until this last year when I realized my camp was trying to save God from a fate worse than death--and I used that "God is a gentleman" line. Regrets were had.
@ShepherdMinistry
Жыл бұрын
Just curious, did you really believe that twisted view of Romans 9 they have? I’m not trying to sound rude, I just could never see their view with all the mental gymnastics.
@johngodsey5327
Жыл бұрын
@@ShepherdMinistry Roman’s 9 is about Israel and Gods choosing Not election for salvation You’re reading your Gnosticism into scripture again
@ShepherdMinistry
Жыл бұрын
@@johngodsey5327 Yes, Ishmael and Esau both went to hell but it’s not talking about salvation.
@johngodsey5327
Жыл бұрын
@@ShepherdMinistry Esau didn’t go to hell Hahah Where do you get that??
@johngodsey5327
Жыл бұрын
@@ShepherdMinistry heads up gnostic God doesn’t hate Esau any more than Jesus doesn’t want you to hate your parents You’re a pretty ignorant theologian Hahshs
@Richard_Rz
Жыл бұрын
Jonah PROVES free will my brother. In fact since Jonah didn't listen, God had to do a miracle of creating a great fish to overcome Jonah's free rebellious will and actions. Jonah was never willing but his actions were forced in the same way an older brother grabs the arm of a younger and smacks him with his own hand. Otherwise, what did the fish help God overcome? Jonah's will. If God did change Jonah's will Jonah would have been excited to preach to the Ninevited! Influencing changing a will.
@nunyabusiness5275
Жыл бұрын
God still got his way, regardless of Jonah's rebellion. So how's that free will, if Jonah still did the very thing he ran from doing?
@joev2223
Жыл бұрын
Jonah TRIED to go his own way. It didn't work. In a true freewill argument, you would basically have to argue that Jonah was walking away from God (permanently) Would you hold to eternal security and a total freewill that is not subject to God's sovereignty? Jonah would be a good example of Calvinistic freewill. Man has freewill, he's responsible for his decisions, but God's purpose will not be thwarted. Man also cannot make decisions outside of his nature, in the case of a man that is dead in sins and transgressions.
@josephbrandenburg4373
Жыл бұрын
@@nunyabusiness5275 Jonah could have contintued to refuse, if he found the fish a comfortable place to sleep. I guess he just didn't like slime?
@goodshorts
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Jonah is not a good text for Calvinism. Neither is Romans 9, John 6, or Ephesians 1. TULIP is man made.
@goodshorts
Жыл бұрын
@@nunyabusiness5275God uses means, yes. This is not Calvinism.
@makedisciples8653
Жыл бұрын
Calvinists have the same vocabulary but a different dictionary. When Calvinists speak of free will they mean the will God gave you because He is Soverign Then God holds you responsible for the will He gave you The best part of all of this is that though Calvinism is clever, it is being exposed by the light of Scripture. And the exposure is growing by multiplication, not addition
@KevinSmile
9 ай бұрын
Well said.
@storba3860
8 ай бұрын
But to say God grants us 100 percent free will raises a lot of questions. Why do most people perish? The only way to explain this is if some people have stronger wills (which is to say God made them better) or if God is picking and choosing who gets saved (Calvinism).
@makedisciples8653
8 ай бұрын
@@storba3860 It can be better explained by understanding scripture only and not using some theologian’s twist on scripture. The Bible says that you have the ability to respond. Everyone has the responsibility to believe. From the time He gave Cain the choice, and everyone since, He gave everyone the ability to respond. Both Jesus and Paul are clear…. “Unless you”… your choice “you will”…your future Matthew 18:3 Jesus tells His disciples “unless you…you will” He’s not saying “you (or anyone else for that matter) CAN’T believe like a child. And never is a long time In Luke 13:3,5 Jesus again tells His audience “unless you…you will”. It’s their choice. The future has not been determined…yet! And all means all. Also in John 8:24 we read “unless you…you will (indeed)” Jesus is saying it’s your choice Pharisees and to those who are following THESE leaders. So am I saying even the Pharisees had a free will choice? Later, to He says to them… 10:38 But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father." Know and understand…MAY KNOW AND UNDERSTAND? That’s impossible, for a Calvinist. Yes even the Pharisees and the Jewish leaders had a choice and some did. Maybe many did after Pentecost. We won’t know until. God is not playing a game of duck, duck, GOOSE! ….Before you were born. Not even with your children (Piper) No unbeliever is ever ticketed for heaven or hell before they were born. That is a twisting of Romans and Ephesians to fit a theology from theologians Why are souls in hell and some in heaven? It’s not God’s fault (will). It’s the choice of some
@nanomachines2985
6 ай бұрын
@@storba3860 does it have to be complete free will, or is there such a thing as partial will? Why all or nothing? I don't understand these absolutes and inability to divorce concepts from each other. I mean this sincerely, not as a random internet contrarian
@tomtemple69
5 ай бұрын
Calvinism is undeniably true when you learn to read the Bible correctly, not with your lens on
@Autonomous_Don
Жыл бұрын
*Molinism has entered the chat* “I have arrived. Now take responsibility for your actions”
@Papasquatch73
Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@joebrowser775
5 ай бұрын
I may be wrong but from what I’ve understood about Molinism its just Calvinism with a scifi twist 😅
@jacobcaster
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't there king who was made to live in the wilderness like a beast. Also, something about hardening the heart of pharaoh.
@nunyabusiness5275
Жыл бұрын
Nebuchadnezzar lol Pretty famous story
@jexcaliburning
Жыл бұрын
There is explanation to that, already sooo manu discussion about this stuff, calvinist is heretic
@nunyabusiness5275
Жыл бұрын
@@jexcaliburning not even close
@jexcaliburning
Жыл бұрын
@@nunyabusiness5275 close to what?
@nunyabusiness5275
Жыл бұрын
@@jexcaliburning what you said
@timsmith530
Жыл бұрын
The Bible also says Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. ITS YOUR CHOICE TO OPEN THAT DOOR. IF ANY MAN HEARS HIS VOICE.
@ks23770
Жыл бұрын
That Scripture you quoted is written to an unfaithful church, not the general population.
@aletheia8054
Жыл бұрын
Poor Jesus. Doesn’t have the key to the door and can’t bust it down. What’s a poor little Jesus going to do if they won’t open that door? Maybe he will cry.
@caleb3960
Жыл бұрын
@@aletheia8054Pretty simple. Christ will "spew them out of His mouth" and they will go to hell.
@mruziicak
Жыл бұрын
@@aletheia8054 Jesus is stumped by man's wickedness. Wants to save you, but he just can't 😢
@aletheia8054
Жыл бұрын
@@mruziicak I don’t think so
@TrentP87
Жыл бұрын
Jonah received a direct command from God to go to Nineveh. When he refused, he was subjected to God's judgment. Yes God uses judgement to call us to repentance (he especially did it in the OT). However, JONAH WAS NOT OBLIGATED TO REPENT AND FOLLOW GOD. He could have just as easily died in the belly of the whale choosing not to repent. Not a good argument.
@MinifigsBricksMoreDenton
9 ай бұрын
“When they heard these things they fell silent. And they glorified God, saying, “Then to the Gentiles also 👉God has 👉granted repentance that leads to life.”” Acts 11:18 ESV
@TrentP87
9 ай бұрын
@@MinifigsBricksMoreDenton what you have added is true. Even so those who God leads have a choice to accept his leading or deny it.
@CalvinGomes
Жыл бұрын
I don't think you understand free will if Jonah is your example. Not having free will is being a robot. You cannot rationally choose anything except what God wants. I think predestination and free will are different. Predestined represents that God is outside time and knows (and can intervene) in time based on knowing all events past, present and future.
@anthonypolonkay2681
Жыл бұрын
I think you are far more on the mark here tha. The calvanist view
@JohnMackeyIII
8 ай бұрын
God is not outside of time… there is no tunnel and He doesn’t drive a delorian! Molinism is silly because it assumes and presumes God needs billions of options to come across the one possible universe where He gets the maximal glory! This was refuted many years ago. God Holy and Perfect mind desired and created the only possible universe that could exist. This was His decision and His alone with no consideration to anything but His perfect will.. All decisions made were made to bring about the fullness of His glory… there was no plan b, c, d, or infinite.. (bars)
@childofgrace1234
Жыл бұрын
Have you read the story of Paul? Jesus knocked him of his high horse, TOLD him he was going to testify about Him to the gentiles… I don’t remember Paul telling Jesus that his free will was being violated. Instead Paul called this very thing that Jesus did God’s Mercy!
@No_auto_toon
Жыл бұрын
Ah. The gentleman doctrine.
@levrider9558
Жыл бұрын
The holy spirit is a Gentleman in terms of "you're not gonna speak in tongues if you don't allow the holy spirit to do so". However, look at Jonah, or Hosea, or Habakuk. God can tell you to do things that you don't want to. Even Jesus was afraid of what God the father planned for him.
@jasonr2771
Жыл бұрын
So compelling! :D
@Gablesman888
10 ай бұрын
@@levrider9558 The dynamics are totally different contrasting how God deals with a believer versus a lost person. The free will question is a much different question with a much different answer.
@gandalfthegrey7146
Жыл бұрын
“God will never violate a persons free will” “You literally pray for God to change peoples hearts”
@Papasquatch73
Жыл бұрын
That doesn’t mean he literally forces the change. Maybe he motivates the change but the change could or could not still happen
@lovevuite
Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@RedeemedReformedRenewed
9 ай бұрын
He's making valid points which no one is addressing
@angelique1508
Жыл бұрын
If you're a slave to sin, you have no choice. People don't seem to get that fact of slavery. Secondly, you don't approach a King, you are summend.
@user-nm2vz5vp7e
Жыл бұрын
A-MEN.
@dited358
Жыл бұрын
Except Jesus came as a servant, his death was a (gift) not an order. Gifts aren't forced, you gotta accept them.
@user-nm2vz5vp7e
Жыл бұрын
PLEASE Read The Holy Bible Start At The Beginning and Read To The End And BELIEVE ) What You Read . Repeat and BELIEVE The Gospel. You Are Not Free !!!
@classact9557
6 ай бұрын
James 4: Draw nigh unto God, and He will draw nigh unto you. Your point?
@tannersmith448
Жыл бұрын
This is like saying a wind up toy got itself where it's at.
@dited358
Жыл бұрын
Attempting to equate humanity to a mindless object ain't gonna win people to Christ buddy, lol.
@MidgetMoto
9 ай бұрын
@@stophittingyourself123I wonder if you freely came to this conclusion
@lilacDaisy111
Жыл бұрын
Cracking up at the ending!!!
@ToddlovesCopper
Жыл бұрын
Jonah is the best example of free will. Free will and consequences. Enabling us to believe the gospel was sending his son, natural revelation, etc. His grace is sufficient, I don't get an extra tincture of grace to be saved.
@Gablesman888
10 ай бұрын
Jonah was saved for all putposes in the story of Jonah. The free will dynamic is different between the lost versus a nutty disobedient prophet.
@bruh-so8vp
7 ай бұрын
A Calvinist was walking down the street and he heared a scream for help inside a building. He said "Thank you God for choosing her and not me" and walked away.
@MrAndyhdz
Ай бұрын
Said no calvinist ever
@paulcaddis9392
Жыл бұрын
Forget Calvinism. Just read the Bible and know that God lives outside of time. Therefore He knows all of our decisions that we will make. Because He is also all knowing He knows the decisions WE will make make. They are our free will in real time, but God reigns outside of time. He knows the beginning from the end....
@davidistre7253
9 ай бұрын
I was predestined not to be a Calvinist… Our free will in no way lessens God’s sovereignty, it’s as if some 5 pointers believe the Gospel has no appeal.
@MrAndyhdz
Ай бұрын
Hey sure, continue to believe you can negotiate with Him
@NickOtis0707
2 ай бұрын
I love you all in the Calvinism faith my brothers in Christ and sisters in Christ. I try not to think about too much about Calvinism because it just loses my focus on the Lord and I start thinking about it I'm truly saved or if I'm truly the Lord's child. I'm a thinker and sometimes I think too much about too much things I shouldn't be thinking about and it can mess with my relationship with the Lord and my mental health. I just want to focus on my relationship with the Lord and spread the good news of the Gospel the best as I can because I know that I'm a wicked sinner and I need the Lord's grace and mercy everyday and his forgiveness. I do believe that the Lord does search for people to have a relationship with him freely because I believe the Lord won't Force his love upon anyone because true love and has to be freely given it cannot be forced. Just like I can't force my love upon anyone that will be a wrong thing to do. I do believe God sends us love letters and flowers to us everyday if that is his word or through TV hearing a preacher or pastor preaching the gospel or hearing it on the radio.if a unbelievers walking outside and they see something on the ground and they pick something up and all of a sudden it's a gospel tract and they start reading it and that person gets saved through that gospel tract and that's when the Holy Spirit will work in that person Philippians 1:6) I do also believe that the Lord searches for the Lord The One and Only living God through Jesus Christ through our suffering. Because without our suffering we wouldn't come to the Lord and if the Lord gives us everything that we want on Earth we will be spoiled little brats and we wouldn't learn through our suffering. I do believe that the Lord gives us free will to choose him or not but I also believe that the Lord keeps searching for people and he keeps knocking on their doors waiting patiently for that person to walk with the Lord and have a relationship with Jesus Christ. I'm not affiliated with any Church but there is one church that I go to even though it's been awhile is Lutheran Church.I do love watching Paul washer from time to time I think he is a good preacher and I do believe he doesn't water down the gospel one bit I did not know that he is a Calvinism but I heard that he doesn't believe in the whole doctrine of Calvinism. Another preacher I love listening to you one of my top favorite is Pastor Charles Stanley and Pastor Billy Graham. Another way that the Lord gets through people is through visions and dreams if it's his will to do so and in rare experiences through near-death experiences that some people experience heaven or Hell or both.. I would love a brother or a sister in Christ that can have a nice dialogue and conversation with me and to give me a little bit of wisdom because I believe it's really important to support one another in the body of Christ no matter what and to love one another because the real enemy is the devil and his dominions demonic spirits. LET'S DO OUR BEST TO WAKE UP EVERYDAY TO BE THE BEST MAN TO BE THE BEST WOMAN TO BE THE BEST CHILD OF GOD THAT WE CAN BE IN THE LORD'S IMAGEAND THE LITTLE LIGHT SHINE IN THE DARK WORLD BUT ALSO SHINE OR LIGHT UPON OTHER PEOPLE THAT DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHY THEY WILL SEE CHRIST LIKE CHARACTER AND HIS GOODNESS IN US BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT ABIDES IN US. LOVE YOU ALL...✍️✝️🙌❤️
@chrisjohnson9542
Жыл бұрын
Notice the difference between "well I believe" and "well the bible says"
@KevinSmile
9 ай бұрын
Notice how this fictional conversation was written and directed by a Calvinist.
@chrisjohnson9542
6 ай бұрын
@@KevinSmileone has glasses and a different accent.
@juanjulianamanriquez15
Жыл бұрын
"Have you ever read the story of Jonah?" Ahahahaha GOTTEM!!
@goodshorts
Жыл бұрын
Jonah is a bad example for Calvinism. It shows us that God uses means, and man responds. Jonah did not obey God's decrees. God used the means of the storm, and the fish. God wanted Jonah to preach, and if they did not respond, they were going to be punished. They did respond. No total depravity, or irresistible grace. No TULIP here. Calvinism really imposes itself over the text.
@stephenjohnson9632
Жыл бұрын
Nope. The P in Tulip also teaches no free will.
@bruhmingo
Жыл бұрын
Talk about a strawman lol
@The_Life
Ай бұрын
The Bible says "shut up, Jeremy, you suck, that's the whole starting point of the Gospel". When will Jeremy learn?
@lrajic8281
Жыл бұрын
It's like this: One door says "Whosoever may come. Enter in." The other door says "The ones who know who they are, only those may enter." You think, well, I'm a Whosoever, so that might be me. In I go, I will find out " So you turn the handle, it is unlocked. You think, well maybe I'm not worthy, and I'll be kicked out. But you step inside. It looks peaceful, beautiful, excellent. You go further in, and look up over your shoulder. The sign on the other side of the door "Welcome, I knew you would come in."
@samperry9507
Жыл бұрын
God gives grace to the humble.
@YSLRD
Жыл бұрын
I have 2 daughters who were dragged into repentance ( by God) with feet firmly planted in resistance. He does what He will.
@Notacalvinist_24
Жыл бұрын
So are you accusing God of raping your 2 daughters, because if he dragged them and forced himself upon them then he(God) has raped them. God has now become less than God because he is no longer PURE ACTUAL in his being, His holiness is no longer Perfect and full. The action of God forcing Himself on your daughters makes him out to be a spiritual rapist making him imperfect in regards to his Holiness rendering Him to be a complex being like us instead of the Simple being that He is. Remember that God is PURE ACTUAL in all of His attributes leaving Him no room to grow, no limits to attain. We however are complex beings non-actual potential being, whereas God has no potential. Tell me if your 2 daughters were forced to love you against their will, would you appreciate their love? Would it be genuine love for you that they had? If they love you not freely but because they were somehow forced to love you, would you really feel loved? If not why would you think God would feel loved if he forced you to love him. Love would be meaningless because it is a love that was made and not free. "Forced love is not love, forced love is Rape, and God is not in the business of rape". -Dr. Norman Geisler(Chosen but Free)
@bhalarusa
Жыл бұрын
praise God
@nunyabusiness5275
Жыл бұрын
Can you share the testimony?
@TheEagleChristian
Жыл бұрын
One cannot repent and also firmly resist God
@petersebastion7596
Жыл бұрын
@@TheEagleChristian I guess that’s why Paul said what I would do I don’t and I wouldn’t I do
@linkeatspie
Жыл бұрын
We all choose sin and this exercises our free will and elimines our ability to make God honoring choices. After that point we need the intervention of God to compel us unwilling sinners to salvation. Thank God for His sovereign choice and irresistible grace.
@khashmoney6985
10 ай бұрын
How can we choose sin, if its in our nature?
@RPSanAnto
11 ай бұрын
I really enjoy this guy's videos. This is funny to me because I have been in a conversation with a fellow brother in Christ that said "God is a gentleman"...but as we read the scriptures it says different. He makes this videos witty and comedic. Sometimes is ok not to take ourselves to seriously no matter what part of the Church branch where in.
@countdowntomidnight692
Жыл бұрын
1st Timothy ch2. God wants ALL men to be saved.
@Samy-sx6kn
Жыл бұрын
And? Does god saves all people?
@Samy-sx6kn
Жыл бұрын
@@countdowntomidnight692 It’s his choice. He’s son died for us, not the other way around .
@Samy-sx6kn
Жыл бұрын
@@countdowntomidnight692 The last sentence is human philosophy and not the Bible. John 1:3 „Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.“ Romans 9:16 „So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy“ Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces[a] of this world rather than on Christ.
@Samy-sx6kn
Жыл бұрын
@@countdowntomidnight692 So if we die with a unrepentant sin, we will do to hell? Or if we forget a sin. Because Jesus died only for the sins we repent?
@Samy-sx6kn
Жыл бұрын
@@countdowntomidnight692 Verses you don’t like is cherry picking? 🤣
@Bleduke0525
Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad John Calvin was finally the one to understand the Bible properly. I really wonder what happened to all of the Christians before the 16th century. It's so sad to think that the Holy Spirit allowed the church to be misled until John Calvin saved us. 😓
@obiwanian2774
Ай бұрын
Perfect sarcasm
@johnmarkharris
10 ай бұрын
You have an ability to make choices. You choose sin unless God calls you in which case you choose God. It’s a “choice” which God decides for you.
@MidgetMoto
9 ай бұрын
The famous choice with only 1 option. I love it
@Lollololplolpllplpl
Жыл бұрын
What is free will? Who are we free from?
@chandlermarmino4399
Жыл бұрын
I'm not a calvinist or a free will baptist. I am a Christian who abides to what scripture says... But imagine being a calvinist... If everything is determined, imagine how scary the thought of going your whole life thinking you were chosen by God (an elect) then God saying, sorry dude for leading you on, but I only wanted you doing this until I put you on your death bed and then make you reject me... Man, calvinism sounds pretty unsettling not being able to know for sure if God has chosen you or not. Listen, it makes God more sovereign to make creatures with Free Will! Or else... It wouldn't be love. That's what it all comes down to.
@artifacthunter1472
11 ай бұрын
That’s because you’re not born again! when you are truly born again you will truly understand everything spiritual!
@crystalhaataja304
10 ай бұрын
God doesnt draw everyone. You dont understand the theology or you're nit picking, Jesus said no one can come unless drawn by the father, all who are drawn will be risen on the last day, and that He will lose none that the Father gives. Your comment gives the idea that someone comes begging for jesus and gets denied, and thats never happened. We are all born sinners who are unrighteous and hate God either passively or actively. This is why Jesus says you must be born again, and why Ezekiel prophesied that God would give a new heart to His people. The carnal man has no interest in the true God.
@khashmoney6985
10 ай бұрын
@@StinkyX6ALTthrough the Holy Spirit
@jaihummel5057
Жыл бұрын
Hey great stuff. Love the content as always. I think you do great work for the kingdom. As the modern church witnesses soft, liberal theology begin to ruin us, more and more will flock to biblical doctrines and beliefs, such as Calvinism. That being said, I'm a 5-point Calvinist in the PCA and I'm honestly not sure I believe in free will. It's not mentioned by name in the scriptures, and no where does it say that men necessarily have free will. In my mind, free will is not possible in a universe that has an all-knowing and all-powerful being. What decision in that system is truly 'free'? Jesus tells us that not a hair can fall from our heads without the will of the father. How then can we turn around and say we make our decisions completely unhindered and of our own will? Surely all choices we make are at the express permission of God the father, elsewise, we wouldn't make them or couldn't even imagine the idea to do something he didn't want us to in the first place. All things work together for the good of those who love the Lord, and Joseph tells us in Genesis that what his brothers planned for evil, God meant for good. I certainly believe that men are to be held responsible for their sins and choices, but I also believe that simultaneously, no choice on earth is truly free and we shouldn't act like it's biblical to say so. Am I in error here? I'd love to hear your thoughts.
@ConversationswithaCalvinist
Жыл бұрын
Hey brother, I am not endorsing Free Will in this video. Just that we have the ability to make choices. Those choices will always be driven by something, and are ultimately subject to the sovereignty of God. I have a sermon I did on the will, I can send them to you if you like.
@jaihummel5057
Жыл бұрын
@@ConversationswithaCalvinistOh great reply. Yeah I'd love that sermon thanks.
@user-nu3sd7zb2j
Жыл бұрын
You do have free will. God doesn't choose for you. You choose for yourself for the most part. You can choose to jump off a cliff right now by a free choice. Humans are sinners. And we only choose sin. We on our own will never choose God. The only way for us to come to Christ is if the Father draws you to him.
@user-nu3sd7zb2j
Жыл бұрын
No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. John 6:44
@timsmith530
Жыл бұрын
@@user-nu3sd7zb2j God predestined you ? Why does He need to draw you to Him when you were already in Him before the foundation of the World?
@timshanks6729
Жыл бұрын
I'm almost 50 and I am becoming more Calvenest I knew about predestination but I thought it was foreknowledge who would believe. the Bible says God chooses us and not us choosing Him
@jonroe668
Жыл бұрын
The sin is when man tries to figure out exactly who the chosen are.
@iamthasecond
11 ай бұрын
Pretty much yea. God does have his elect, but that's not something we can ever identify as people, and trying to do so is wrong. The person who gets saved on their deathbed is just as elect as the person who's been saved for years.
@jedimasterham2
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think most Calvinists realize they’re doing Satan’s work for him..
@iamthasecond
11 ай бұрын
Explain...
@MinifigsBricksMoreDenton
9 ай бұрын
Ad Hominem. This is your rebuttal to Calvinism?
@jedimasterham2
9 ай бұрын
@@MinifigsBricksMoreDenton That’s not what ad hominem means. Calvinism is antithetical to the gospel. Scripture tells us God loves everyone, wants every person to be saved, and Jesus was sent as a random for all. Scripture also says anyone who believes in Jesus will be saved, and anyone can be saved. Calvinism denies all of God’s word, including saying that people are picked to be saved and unsaved, and cannot even believe in Jesus, and it devolves into petty argument and human philosophizing. Calvinism is 100% Satanic. It’s no wonder most Calvinists are toxic, narcissistic, and insulting. They’re grieving the Holy Spirit constantly by indulging an antichristian doctrine .
@theflipper404
6 ай бұрын
@@jedimasterham2 Free grace doctrine is false
@jedimasterham2
6 ай бұрын
@@theflipper404 You are aware that scripture explicitly mentions God's "free gift" of grace? God freely offers grace to anyone who chooses to believe. If you're against free grace, you're arguing against God. Be careful with grieving the Holy Spirit.
@lorenzoortez64
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't depend on the man who runs or the man who wills but God who has mercy (rom9:16)
@calebhooper4266
11 ай бұрын
It funny how God showing Jonah the consequences of his actions counts as Him controlling Jonah.
@SeekJesusFindLife
Жыл бұрын
Had so many people reach out to me. I finally did get born again. God wanted me to he saved and I reached a point where I hated the way I was living it wasn't getting me anywhere and I was convicted by the Holy Spirit so it doesn't feel like freewill for me.
@omnitheus5442
Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem for Calvinism is double predestination.
@webz3589
11 ай бұрын
There is no real difference between predestination and double predestination. In predestination God has determined who will go to heaven, where do the rest go?. All double predestination does is say the quiet part out loud
@khashmoney6985
10 ай бұрын
@@webz3589because God knew who would have faith in Him and who would not.
@Gablesman888
10 ай бұрын
There is no such thing. So called hypercalvinism is a false argument made by Arminians when they are at the give up stage. God does not have to and does not create fresh evil in the hearts and minds of those who are predestined to Hell. Do you know why? Simple question. Simple answer. Less than 50 words. Can you do it? If you give up, call me back and I will help with Bible resources. Always glad to help out,
@lovegod8582
8 ай бұрын
@@khashmoney6985based on who God predetermined would have faith in him. He supposedly predetermined every thought, motivate, action, event, according to Calvinism, and man could have chosen otherwise. This is called determinism. It’s false.
@JohnMackeyIII
8 ай бұрын
@@khashmoney6985wrong!
@samuelcoppa874
Жыл бұрын
All this guy does is strawman. Any legitimate debate with a well equipped Catholic would result in this man’s defeat
@cathcolwell2197
Ай бұрын
Could the enabling and the granting exist as an open door, as a possibility a real thing - and then the imago dei in the man who desires God goes through the door?
@MasonK2597
4 ай бұрын
I thought a scarecrow was a straw man until I saw this vid.👨🌾
@levifox2818
4 ай бұрын
I’ve actually seen people make this argument, and they meant it with a straight face. Just because it doesn’t represent your position doesn’t make it a straw man. We often feel targeted so we assume people are talking about us, but I’m not that important.
@unprofitableservantsministry
Жыл бұрын
The natural man reference was out definitely out of context.
@wretchedsavedbygrace4499
Жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@heyman5525
Жыл бұрын
Calvinists do not believe that men have the ability to make choices. Calvinism is the denial that mankind has any agency at all. You need to stop whitewashing Calvinism and read exactly what John Calvin said. John Calvin denied the agency of created beings.
@heyman5525
Жыл бұрын
And if you take the idea that men can't believe in something because of original sin then that would mean salvation is the eradication of original sin within an individual so that he can now believe in all the things of God without inhibition. This is a classic case of where Calvinists make salvation in relation to Original sin which would in turn mean that salvation is the eradication of the sinful nature and all the effects of original sin. Trying to say that man has agency that is hindered by Original sin is not Calvinism. That's just standard unilateral Christianity. Man's faith is not hindered by Original sin. The object of man's faith is the hindrance. Plenty of people in false religions have a lot of faith so original sin does not take away the ability to believe in something. At the end of the day Calvinists are just trying to discredit the agency of mankind that God put within human bodies. They're not trying to deal with what man actually believes in or disbelies because of original sin. They're just trying to unilaterally discredit agency.
@Martonesdef
Жыл бұрын
Also, also, when God grants us repentance or enables us to follow Christ, will we always choose to repent and follow Him?
@ronwilliamson-uz7kb
2 ай бұрын
This argument could go on for hours - I mean centuries. Is anyone glad that they found Jesus/Jesus found them? "Now we see through a glass darkly."
@TEMPESTsonofThunder
Жыл бұрын
Jonah had a choice. He could’ve committed suicide at any point.
@TEMPESTsonofThunder
Жыл бұрын
@@stophittingyourself123 ah yes, no free will. Enlighten me, where is it wrote in the Bible God doesn’t allow those who follow Him the choice to do so? Where does it say that “to follow Christ is not a choice. You do not accept Jesus as your lord and savior. He chooses you.” Where does it indicate that Jesus didn’t give his life for everyone, He only allowed himself to be put on the cross to save only the ones He choose. Your comment is completely false and has no backing in scripture. It’s dangerous and will lead many to hell. Repent while you still have time.
@mosesfollowerofchrist5959
8 ай бұрын
John 10:25-27 ESV [25] Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father’s name bear witness about me, [26] but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. [27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. The Pharisee did not believe because he was not his sheep. He didn't say because you don't believe you are not my sheep but because of the very fact they are not his is the reason for their unbelief.
@mosesfollowerofchrist5959
8 ай бұрын
@@TEMPESTsonofThunder this is just one instance I can be here all day
@TEMPESTsonofThunder
8 ай бұрын
John 10:37-38 (NKJV): 37 If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; 38 but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.” You conveniently leave out what he tells them at the end of the conversation. Clearly they have a choice. Jesus asks them to make the right one. If you can do this all day you’ll need to try again. I welcome it.
@mosesfollowerofchrist5959
8 ай бұрын
@@TEMPESTsonofThunder John 10:16 ESV [16] And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd. again the language is very much so of Jesus having a particular people that are his he also has confidence and a certainty that they WILL come to him. If it is an option or their choice or there's a possibility of rejecting him then this wouldn't be worded this way
@sEEKllsevN
Жыл бұрын
I guess my ex abuser was because God made them do those things, right. Lol calnivism makes God the author of evil if youre honest and consistent with that belief system. We all have complete free will, Hes not going to force anyone into His presence against their will, thats unloving. We just live in a fallen world because thats the cost and result of free beings. Thats it. Not complicated to understand. One can totally come to know God through reason and logic, using our senses. That route then points you to Christ. Knowing Him is everything
@ks23770
Жыл бұрын
Calvinism doesn't believe anything you've said nor is determinism Calvinistic. Calvinism is compatabilistic. God allows evil, not causes it.
@aletheia8054
Жыл бұрын
Yes God causes it. He caused mine too
@sEEKllsevN
Жыл бұрын
@@aletheia8054 He doesn't. Humans are just evil at heart
@aletheia8054
Жыл бұрын
@@sEEKllsevN He made the humans And sustains them at every moment. God causes everything. That’s what makes him God. Things have a purpose.
@sEEKllsevN
Жыл бұрын
@@aletheia8054 A creator isnt responsible for the actions of its creation
@ag7015
Жыл бұрын
One scripture refutes a lot of Calvinist thinking and that’s “For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day”. If Calvinistic thinking is only God can make you believe… and God wants everyone to believe… but everyone doesn’t believe………. Then it’s logical that WE must make the decision to believe.
@Jasondirt
Жыл бұрын
How do you choose God if you only choose sin
@ParticularBaptist
Жыл бұрын
Could you do more videos on NCT?
@relaxedpuppet
11 ай бұрын
where there is absolute love there must be absolute free will.
@Cici_Dial
3 ай бұрын
“I pray God that I may never find my will again. Oh, that Christ would subject my will to His, and trample it under His feet.” - Samuel Rutherford I see Calvinists use scripture and logic, while Arminians sometimes use scripture but mostly use human ideas coupled with emotions. This video correctly represents this. BTW, I was an Arminian for 40 years, so I know and have used all their arguments. But by the grace of God I am now a Calvinist, and can see how empty those arguments are. I cringe when I encounter them now and wonder, "Was I really that STUPID?" Thank you Lord for removing my stupidity. I ask that you convert every Arminian who reads this to Calvinism as you did for me. Thank you.
@josephadams7435
10 ай бұрын
The story of Pharoh and Moses comes to mind. Pharoh: Yeah, Ive had enough. Time to give him what he wants. *And then God hardened his heart.. Over and over till he lost his first born
@jeremyfrancispiano2
3 ай бұрын
God doesn't want your religion. He wants your relationship
@r.rodriguez4991
2 ай бұрын
As non-calvinists we believe that Calvinists do honestly try to make the strongest arguments. The problem is their strongest arguments are always strawmen. 🤷
@pragmaticoptimist46
5 ай бұрын
Treating fellow Bible believing Christian’s as if they’re stupid with ridiculous arguments that aren’t common, and ending with a snarky look to the screen….That’s the way to show love and bring all believers together.
@athanasiusofalexandria4304
11 ай бұрын
As a former hardcore Calvinist Presbyterian, I freely admit that IF Sola Scriptura was a defensible doctrine and IF it was true, then Reformed Theology would make the most sense. Unfortunately, there are those “ifs” thus I left (which was tough) and became Orthodox.
@joebrowser775
5 ай бұрын
Please tell us how Jonah disproves free will.
@levifox2818
4 ай бұрын
He affirms free will (as he says in the video). He’s arguing against the “God is a gentleman who won’t force people to do things they don’t want to.” Jonah didn’t want to go to Nineveh and God forced him against his will.
@Bowandarrow17
Жыл бұрын
Shorts and meme culture exacerbate the problem we have in modern culture nowadays in thinking deeply about a complex subject. A YT short with a man in conversation with himself is not a real debate. If someone is interested in a real conversation, with the countering side of this channel steel-manned instead of this straw man, this is a thoughtful discussion. kzitem.info/news/bejne/pnmZtGGcoqWChaA Could anything be closer to a theological echo chamber than a made up conversation for the sake of a YT short?
@josephbrandenburg4373
Жыл бұрын
to be fair, this channel recently had an excellent conversation with Leighton Flowers.
@bankerlangkharjana6234
10 ай бұрын
I just got rape but then I know God through a calvanist ,what a journey im thankful now .
@WarrenWVa
Ай бұрын
Wesley believed exactly what you said here, sir. The only difference is that the enabling grace needed to believe was given to all men, in his system.
@PR1NC345
3 ай бұрын
Its not that God doesn't give us choices, he just knows what were gonna choose everytime
@Martonesdef
Жыл бұрын
Also, is always desiring that which is in opposition to God, prior to Him changing our heart, the same as God giving us over to degrading passions when we suppress the truth in unrighteousness? If not, what's the difference?
@joechillstudios
8 ай бұрын
Straw man arguments for days! 👨 🌾
@thanevakarian9762
3 ай бұрын
I used to be really bothered by Calvinism now I’m just entertained seeing Calvinists explain away their determinism
@ogmakefirefiregood
10 ай бұрын
Former slave here. Every slave knows we get to decide who our master is. "You can't own me" is a phrase often honored and obeyed by their masters.
@lukewilliams3334
Жыл бұрын
If God predestined certain people to hell and refuses to let them see the light, then it is not man’s fault at all, that he is stuck in sin because God already predestined man to hell before he ever created him. Otherwise, how could God blame man for sin when He is the one predestinating it?
@63stratoman
9 күн бұрын
Anti-Calvinists are humanists at heart!
@chelsealovely3755
11 ай бұрын
Honest questions: Do Calvinists think evangelism is pointless since God has prechosen His people?? Can you follow Christ and His word and not be chosen, therefore not saved?? If your chosen will you come to Christ on your own or is church/evangelism woven into your story to come to Him??
@SaintRegime
Жыл бұрын
Free Will: The ability to make a choice, or set a goal. It is not defined by your ability to act out your choice. A quadriplegic has free will, but not the means to smack their brother for mouthing off. Or handing flowers to their mother. How does this align or not align with Calvinism? Cause I keep seeing a lot of very confusing (to me) arguments about what is or isn't free will, whether or not Accepting Christ is a work or not... So, with Free Will as I described above... does that work with Calvinism, or nah?
@HillbillyBlack
7 ай бұрын
PERFECT
@Flame1500
9 ай бұрын
Main problem I have with calvinists & predestination is that they seem to think man’s free will is in conflict with God’s sovereignty. Just because God knows every choice you are going to make before you were even born, doesn’t mean He *ALONE* has caused this choice. He has a permissive will which enables free will and allows us to make bad choices and He will try to turn this poor choice into something for good.
@DaddySizeIt
4 ай бұрын
Yup, divine foreknowledge is not predestination. You and I can predict with reasonable accuracy what a rat will do in a given situation. We're ants compared to God. He knows what we're going to do. He doesn't have to force anything.
@drakoyaboi3344
Жыл бұрын
As calvinist, it is not likr you don't have freewill. It is called predestination because God just knows the future and outcome. He didn't intefere, he just knew 🤷♂️. To say else wise would denial of his omnipotence.
@infinitegaming1015
Жыл бұрын
Finally a comment I agree with and can stop my head from spinning. Lol
@Mazinga
Жыл бұрын
"God is a gentleman..." - that one made me laugh. Thank you 😂
@Jonathan-wo3kl
Жыл бұрын
it is a strawman
@cagedstowgee4991
Жыл бұрын
Well, I’m a Christian before any denomination, and I believe based upon various passages that God grants the ability to choose Him, but also we are given a free will to not choose. It’s all from God, but we still have a choice. It’s both transformative and freewill, there’s far more we need to be concerned about than our prideful interpretations of scriptures. We are not called to be the son that stayed.
@rjcontra
Жыл бұрын
PEOPLE ARE GETTING DELIVERED FROM CALVINISM AS WE SPEAK. THIS IS HOW YOU BECOME A CALVINIST. You are taught Calvinism by someone who was taught Calvinism by someone who taught them Calvinism who was also taught Calvinism. THIS POOR GUY TRYING TO MAKE CALVINISM LOOK GOOD. NOT GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@webz3589
11 ай бұрын
All bad theology falls with time. Now lets hope for a rise of high church (sacremental) creedalism.
@TheBrunarr
8 ай бұрын
Problems with calvinism: penal substitution, limited atonement, total depravity, double predestination, grace and nature relation, theological voluntarism, anachronistic eisegesis, presuppositionalism as a necessary epistemological consequence of the fall, etc etc etc
@lukeverble5999
10 ай бұрын
I noticed you only broke out scripture for the Calvin's view point.. 🧐😂.
@Caderic
Жыл бұрын
It is interesting how all of these video are shown with a "theologian" on one side and an "argument" on the other. Why not make a video of two theologians instead of belittling the opposite side of the argument? When you get real theologians, they both have really good, bible based, point, yet you neglect that. It literally is the straw-man fallacy.
@Martonesdef
Жыл бұрын
Exactly when was Job's freedom of choice violated by God? Chapter and verse, please.
@Jennifer-qo4kz
22 сағат бұрын
Thank you!
@goosieschmoo8239
Жыл бұрын
Based video!
@ijclnl48
8 ай бұрын
This is how Calvinists have been trying to get around the problem of evil for so long. They say we all have creaturely freedom and until our hearts are changed in his direction then we are just acting on our own desires. The problem is that comes with the baggage that God determines who will have their heart changed and who won't. Making God determiner of these decisions.
@Martonesdef
Жыл бұрын
Also, also, also, are Calvinists the only ones who use biblical references to defend their beliefs, or was that depicted comedic effect? Asking for a friend 😅
@lovegod8582
8 ай бұрын
Except that God determined every thought, motive, and action before man was born, and can do no other than what it was decided for him to do, by God from eternity past. That’s NOT free will. That’s determinism with a nonsense label on it (compatible free will is not free will). False dichotomy in the video. We need God’s grace to choose to believe. It’s not irresistible though, it’s illuminating.
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