To be totally honest, you guys were far overthinking it when it comes to getting a good string gauge. Remember that when you get to B standard, you are now down a perfect 4th. In other words, the strings will start to repeat themselves from E standard. (BEADF# B; EADGBE) This means, if you want a good, comfortable string gauge for most of your strings, just use the same strings you did before for that pitch. For example, if you like 10s, just use 10s and throw out the high E string. X-46-36-26-17-13. (Maybe a gauge or two up for the "G" to compensate for the interval change.) You've now found 5/6 comfortable strings. Now to find the last, I would start with 56 and go up as needed. (a 56 + the previously mentioned strings is quite literally just a typical set of 13s.) Coincidentally, you guys were right on the money for what you wanted though. A 60 gauge string tuned to B is almost *exactly* the same tension as a 46 gauge string tuned to E. If you do it this way, your guitars will be almost indiscernible in terms of tension feel. Intonation and other things you guys mentioned will still take effort, though.
@montlejohnbojangles8937
5 жыл бұрын
6:56 - The Captain retunes to Drop-Z, begins his new metal career.
@michaelftekol
4 жыл бұрын
Lol 😁
@phnelson033
4 жыл бұрын
Torche uses a detuned bottom string to a similar end...called their "bomb" tuning. Then their A string is in drop-A and so forth.
@damiencrow8338
5 жыл бұрын
It should be noted if your sharp. You move the saddle away from the neck.. not toward.
@dantesaliba8533
5 жыл бұрын
follow the needle as fluff put it
@brainstewX
5 жыл бұрын
You're*
@papacoulsy
5 жыл бұрын
brainstewX genuinely hilarious
@hanithehimbo3382
4 жыл бұрын
@@dantesaliba8533 that's exactly what I was thinking
@jerrymorganjr
5 жыл бұрын
Choon your guitar. I like lower chooning.
@elonmust7470
5 жыл бұрын
I have a dog named Choon
@SoChilledOutGuy
5 жыл бұрын
But don’t scoop yer mids or ya won’t be haired
@davidjohnsen3245
4 жыл бұрын
Mmm choon that butter gud.
@earlycuyler2295
4 жыл бұрын
I like that choon
@phantomechelon3628
4 жыл бұрын
I like hevvy choonz.
@stephanemelo
5 жыл бұрын
20:18 / 22:15 : cool single tap lick. 20:20 / 22:15 : Proud smile. The captain never ceases to amaze, even himself.
@ThaoAustin
4 жыл бұрын
The John Mayer lick
@PulledPurk
4 жыл бұрын
lol thats the "I hope everyone saw that" face
@PeterDad60
4 жыл бұрын
8:31 "If it's sharp then it's too long". When In reality If it's sharp then it's too short, but they both said "if it's sharp then it's too long and has to go the other way". C'mon guy's you are making a living selling guitars and you get thus wrong? Think "violin" (short sting length/short scale length) = high pitch "Double bass" (long string length/long scale length) = low pitch. Having learned that you shall never get it wrong again! -Peter
@valebliz
4 жыл бұрын
Yep, that was a bit cringe. It's even very logical: shorter string = go to sharp, longer string = go to flat.
@tak8481
3 жыл бұрын
These dudes are hacks. They're boring salesmen with very basic knowledge and inflated egos. Of course you're gonna hear dumb shit like that.
@PeterDad60
3 жыл бұрын
@@tak8481 The captain is nice but dumb as a rock. Well maybe not that dumb.
@TheEchelon
3 жыл бұрын
@@valebliz Not really that logical: elongating the string means pulling harder. When there's more tension it's higher, no? I know that's not correct in this application, but that's one way people could see it.
@TheEchelon
3 жыл бұрын
@@tak8481 And you sound like a lovely person yourself... You're literally judging that based on that one mistake? You're not making yourself look better if you're shitting on others.
@HerrMeier007
5 жыл бұрын
That little smile after Lee played that Mayer lick. He was like "See what I just did there?" :D
@JamieClark
5 жыл бұрын
what song is it from? I didn't get the reference (I saw that he looked quite proud, though haha)
@HerrMeier007
5 жыл бұрын
@@JamieClark I guess I just feel like
@derykwilson139
5 жыл бұрын
@@JamieClark it is just a john mayer habit, the pre bending tapping slide. not sure what you call it but Mayer does it often in solos. Check vultures and gravity solos from Live in LA
@connor3030
5 жыл бұрын
Mayer lick at 6:58
@whobian123
5 жыл бұрын
Where tho?
@0pyrophosphate0
5 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine tuning to C and not playing the opening riff from Dragonaut by Sleep.
@retrorewind6042
5 жыл бұрын
Sleep slaps hard
@spekenbonen72
4 жыл бұрын
Endorsing this post.
@birdsaresinners3373
4 жыл бұрын
Neon
@BibleStorm
4 жыл бұрын
Ride the dragon tward the crimson sky
@jacoby8208
3 жыл бұрын
Always my go to riff for trying anything
@fatboysgarage7984
3 жыл бұрын
I used 62-12 on my Soloist. Didn't have to touch my intonation at all. I've got it in standard tuning and it plays really well. All I had to do was file the nut down a little and it sounds amazing.
@Bognerman14
2 жыл бұрын
Me as well - I set my Gibsons and PRS singlecuts in drop C and B with heavier strings and slightly widening the nut slots intonation was fine and the bridge in general had no issues.
@proudbrogressive315
8 ай бұрын
I use Ernie Ball mammoth slinky on a Les Paul without any issue. It feels like a set of 10s in standard. Hell, I can drop A with said set without much issues.
@lyonsson6480
4 жыл бұрын
I did this with my Yamaha Pacifica. Used 13/62 D’Addario strings. Intonation was a small issue on the low B string, I had to cut the spring shorter on the intonation screw for that string. I tuned it B, F#, D, A, E, B. Plays great! I swapped out the cheap single coil pickups for some cheapish lipstick pickups. Love it!
@AndreiGrozea
4 жыл бұрын
Bill Steer of Carcass would say so, he's still playing a Gibson melody maker in B standard
@xjesusxchristx
4 жыл бұрын
You guys seem to miss a few important notes. First, Type O Negative used B tuning, on standard 6 string guitars(and 4 string bass). They didn't use necessarily uncommonly large strings. They aren't the only ones to have done so, but they are probably the most notable. I myself have used B tuning on normal 6 strings since I was 12, and I'm 39 now. It wasn't comm9n enough yet, and we lacked internet, so using heavier string gauges didn't occur to me. I ended up just using my normal 9s through 42s. What I've learned is this. You do not necessarily need heavier gauge strings. Some guitars are more forgiving for this, and interestingly, it's various strats, and strat knock offs, that seem to like low tuning with lighter strings best. Sometimes a guitar might not like the 9s, but never had an issue with 10s. That flabby feel is something you get used to, and it becomes second nature to have a lighter touch for the tuning with said strings. The feel even becomes desirable, and part of the sound(sounds bad ass with distortion. For proof, check out any Type O song). Fast playing, and flourishes such as trills, hammer/pulls, slides, pick scrapes, vibrato, ect all become easier with a light touch. Tapping not as much, as sting tension helps with the repeated hammer/pulls. As an adult, I've used baritones, and 7 strings - and I'll always love a detuned 6 with light gauge. It becomes a different animal, with it's own characteristics, which just adds another tool or varriation to your arsenal. So have a baritone, and a 7 - but don't rule out a detuned 6. Just treat it as another option. Most people knocking it, or not seeing it's value, haven't actually spent time with it. You have to grow accustomed to it before you can really judge if it's for you, or not.
@KristianSimov
4 жыл бұрын
I agree, well put. Also this applies to acoustic because I have played around with B standrad on a normal scale acoustic (trying to make my own baritone guitar) with .11 - .52 and also even starting from .10 and like you said its way different than thicker strings and longer scale - the strings are a bit looser and the feel is actually great imo and allows for easier and cooler techinques like bends and slides especially plus they vibrate more. Just like you said its the same on electric. Even more, it gives a whole new sound to the B tuning because the same tune with thicker strings and longer scale is different, more muffled and bassy. And about tapping - yes tension helps with it but imo thinner strings do too - they kinda compensate somewhat for not having as much tension at least in my exp. In addition I want to mention that swedish melodic death metal band Amon Amarth who also play in B to B baritone tune use standard gibson explorers with normal scale length of 25.5 and they use daddario baritone strings. So they too play on looser strings but it works great, helps playability especially bends, vibrato, fast playing and their songs are great :) All in all I found your comment to be spot on with my experience. Gotta love downtuning 6 strings ment for standard to D, C, B or Drop C, Drop B, Drop A even acoustics, its just something else :D
@xjesusxchristx
4 жыл бұрын
@@KristianSimov in my experience, anything you can do on electric, you can do on acoustic(I mean, in regards to the topic at hand). My compositions often have clean parts, and I almost always use acoustics for clean parts.
@deshondetoro1638
2 жыл бұрын
Same, I use regular thin strings I B standard and it sounds awesome
@starflyer4660
2 жыл бұрын
Guitar players just need to get their guitar the way they like it. Doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks. :-)
@TheInfiniteFret
Жыл бұрын
@@starflyer4660 Agreed. This whole thread is highly subjective. Having done the standard scale length baritone conversion on several guitars, I can say that it will take some trial and error to get the sound you are going for. Then there is a high probability of needing to do some setup work. It is hard to believe that a completely different string guage would have optimal action and intonation without a setup. The conversion can definitely be done on any guitar if you have the patience. I've found the low E usually requires some nut work. I don't get the nut filed right away though. I wait for several months to make sure I don't change my mind =)
@faboolean7039
5 жыл бұрын
That g&l sounds like the kyuss guitar tone
@EpicStuffMan1000
5 жыл бұрын
possibly the biggest tone ever
@euronam798
5 жыл бұрын
Matt in sleep has that title by miles.
@reQuiem249
5 жыл бұрын
with single coils you get the thickest tone out of low tunings imo
@gavinw8835
5 жыл бұрын
It's cause they tuned to C and used standard guitars. The "floppyish" sound combined with a neck pickup and a fuzz is just beautiful.
@brpadington
4 жыл бұрын
I used to tune my Flying V down to baritone tunings from time to time. It has a tune -a-matic bridge on it and it worked fine. They picked the most difficult type of guitar to do this on.
@brpadington
4 жыл бұрын
@Bryan De La Pera That isn't true. The modern ones have a pretty decent range.
@Leo_ofRedKeep
5 жыл бұрын
7:00 So Lee just invented Fjent, which is short for Flop Djent and sounds just like… well, you heard it ;-)
@ZeugmaP
5 жыл бұрын
Lol that word reminds me of "fiente" which is the French word for bird crap
@Leo_ofRedKeep
5 жыл бұрын
Oh no, someone had to explain it ;-(
@lowrising8130
5 жыл бұрын
sounded just like Djent to me lol
@omgvague
5 жыл бұрын
Chords are now renamed to Fjords
@gimmedataids
5 жыл бұрын
@@ZeugmaP you guys talk about bird crap a lot?
@Module79L
5 жыл бұрын
There's an easier solution, one that doesn't compromise string tension: use a 7-string set without the high E. You'll get B to B tuning with the right tension, every string will be tuned to the note it was built for and you won't have that nut problem with the thicker string if you use, for instance, a 009 7-string set: it will become 011-054, where the low B string is thinner than the low E string you were using, but it won't become floppy because you're not downtuning it. The only change you'd have to do compared with a 7-string guitar is to tune the 3rd string to F# instead of G (and probably get used to have a wound 3rd string). I don't know why you guys didn't think about this in the first place. : )
@lohikarmi235
4 жыл бұрын
I have done this to a kit guitar I built some time ago (was a cheap Harley Benton Strat Kit). It worked like a charm (just had to go back to the original tuners for the low B string because it was too thick for the new Tuners (Kluson locking tuners have holes that are too small)
@KatonAdamsFitrianto
3 жыл бұрын
yea it works on my guitar too (Radix Zetta Explorer). been using it for 3 months.
@DanteLikesRock
3 жыл бұрын
yeah but the point of the video was can a NORMAL guitar play baritone tuning, not a 7-string which obviously can.
@danieljames500
3 жыл бұрын
@@DanteLikesRock that's not what he's saying, he means buy a 7 string set of strings but don't use the highest string. put those strings on your normal guitar
@DanteLikesRock
3 жыл бұрын
@@danieljames500 ah, I see now
@Mulgy
5 жыл бұрын
Damn Lee is sounding better every video, and that tuning really fits his playing, damn good!!
@thibaultvandenbogaerde1504
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I also noticed he's improving a lot. He's doing a great job.
@thegoodguy44
5 жыл бұрын
He sounds terrible. You have no ear for music.
@thibaultvandenbogaerde1504
5 жыл бұрын
@@thegoodguy44 And you have no respect for music.
@howbuttish1016
5 жыл бұрын
@@thegoodguy44 you're a shithead
@josuastangl7140
5 жыл бұрын
Damn this comment section turned quickly
@sneeringimperialist340
5 жыл бұрын
You can totally tune a guitar with a standard scale length down to B standard. A lot of metal bands tune down that low or lower with only standard scale lengths, although you'd be better off going for a 26-26.5 inch scale guitar. Most baritone guitars the days actually seem to be tuned down by an entire octave, and often have a scale length more comparable to that of a short scale bass. A lot of people will also simply use a 7 string to reach that low B, which also tend to have longer scale lengths.
@proudbrogressive315
8 ай бұрын
Baritone tuned standard scale guitars are common in death metal. Can confirm.
@misterknightowlandco
5 жыл бұрын
Didnt ariel say he uses like 17's or 19 gauge strings? Well, now you know why Ariel and Joey play custom built guitars 😆
@dominikrejmak6926
5 жыл бұрын
I got that PRS almost 2 years ago and have recently swapped pickups for SD Blackouts and I must say, it sounds killer! And when it comes to tuning "normal" guitar to baritone tunings, I equipped my LP with 12-72 gauge strings and it does its job, feels comfortable to play and isn't floppy.
@mariusvermin
5 жыл бұрын
That g&l nut looks like it's been cut with a spoon.
@MK4vDubbin
5 жыл бұрын
My opinion of G&L has been soured even though a lot of people seem to rave about them. I bought a US made Legacy at the end of last year, brand new from a very reputable store. The QC was astonishingly horrible. It was a piece of shit to be honest and I sent it back.
@retrorewind6042
5 жыл бұрын
@@avivkestin7103 tell that to my japanese ibanez. Ive played usa jacksons that were meh
@ulrathblr2343
5 жыл бұрын
@@avivkestin7103 well, many epis feel better than many gibsons...
@larrywharf1583
5 жыл бұрын
@@avivkestin7103 - In the end it's all a matter of choice. I'm a convert. Give me an Epiphone any day of the week.
@mindstorms44
5 жыл бұрын
@@avivkestin7103 Ha Ha, Good one..........I think the master builders of Europe with 400 + years experience might have somthing to say about that!
5 жыл бұрын
Love how Capt plays the funny new tap thingy and looks at everybody in the room like "Who's the cool cat now?".
@KaiDown
5 жыл бұрын
To anyone trying to change tuning but keep the same string tension that they're used to, Winspear Instrumental has a fantastic calculator on their site. Also, Rob's absolutely correct. A .046 will have the same tension in E as a .061 in B
@plasticoflamingo2952
5 жыл бұрын
Out of all the freeform jams on Anderton's, Chappers & The Captain do the best. Just a couple of old friends hanging out, rocking out, together. So relatable. And so good. Cheers, mates.
@jessegaronband
5 жыл бұрын
Baritone falls between and overlaps both bass and tenor frequencies. String gauge solution.,. Take a bead off of a bass string, Slide the low-e guitar string through the bead before installing in the Bridge. Essentially creating a stop bead for the string (shim)- Peace
@thomblack736
5 жыл бұрын
I play stoner/doom in c standard with 10s on a strat. Sounds and feelings amazing when set up properly. Flappy is good
@lukewilliams1925
5 жыл бұрын
RC nearly let slip the new Rabea Baritone in the more affordable range....... that's my guess 😉
@princeoinkins8408
5 жыл бұрын
I think it’s still gonna be pro range though
@jadenrrose
5 жыл бұрын
I'm really hoping we can pick one up for around $1000. It will absolutely be my next purchase!
@lukewilliams1925
5 жыл бұрын
@@princeoinkins8408 I dunno man. There's been a fair few hints to it being in the "budget/cheaper" range. If they're able to get it to a good price, I can see it being a MASSSSSSIVE seller.
@josuastangl7140
5 жыл бұрын
@@jadenrrose the current one is not much more than that I think, maybe 1200 or 1300 in €. I think the new budget one will be somewhere between 600-800
@mahmoudeledrissi7234
5 жыл бұрын
For me rob is king amazing person on electric... and captain too. Love your videos guys
@phantomechelon3628
4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Nut, string, tuning and intonation issues aside, this was another great demonstration of how well you guys play together. Really liking Lee's lead playing on this one.
@verrysmusic
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent and fun video guys!! I have a Squier and decided to turn it into a baritone guitar to record my new album, initially i had many issues with intonation and stability in general so i decided to put on Ernie Ball 13-70 for baritone and they work like a charm. Im in drop A, but the thing i had to do is to move the bridge (not just the saddles but the entire piece) back a bit to compensate the intonation. Other than that, no other modifications were required. Thanks for the video and info!!
@riklionheart23
Жыл бұрын
What model of Squire did you modify?
@verrysmusic
Жыл бұрын
@@riklionheart23 Its A Squire Strat crafted in China, not much more info than that. Cheers!!
@ej1_drew
10 ай бұрын
that's pretty clever! how much did you end up moving the bridge (in millimeters)?? im thinking of just modifying the saddles to make them shorter.
@verrysmusic
10 ай бұрын
@@ej1_drew hey! i would say about 5-6 millimeters from the center of the old screw holes to the center of the new ones. Modifying saddles is also an good and smart option. Cheers!
@drakescorton
5 жыл бұрын
I myself have successfully converted a 25.5" scale length Telecaster to a baritone by way of a really simple solution: using medium-light acoustic guitar strings. The tension in acoustic strings is significantly higher, and they can handle being detuned to B-b without issue (at least for me). I can even drop the top B to A without consequence. If you ever make a follow-up video, try this method.
@dansands6363
5 жыл бұрын
Lee doing that John Mayer lick at 20:21 put a huge smile on my face!
@lukaspocobene2661
5 жыл бұрын
The Captains mug is an clear representation of true love
@derykstearns
5 жыл бұрын
You guys should DO A VIDEO about Mono vs Stereo amps and effects. Use Strymon pedals like the timeline, Bigsky, and Mobius and tell us all about the benefits and drawbacks of Stereo!
@fritsvanzanten3573
5 жыл бұрын
Will the cut G&L be sold as B-stock (as in Baritone)?
@sebastianburgos2492
5 жыл бұрын
Greetings from latinamerica! I can said with all my little experience in this world, Anderton's is one of the best KZitem channels. Also, incredible "Hola" from the Captain haha
@ashenoneswe
5 жыл бұрын
Most 7 string guitars have 25,5 inch scale, so just use the first 6 strings of a 7 string set and you'll get the right tension and feel, its not rocket science.
@emmanieuwenhuis2688
5 жыл бұрын
A lot of seven string guitars are actually 26,5 scale. Some even 27. Eight string are usually 27 or 28. This is just my experience.
@jubuttib
5 жыл бұрын
Just out of interest I tried this on the Thomann website (since they have a fairly large selection and great tools for filtering the results), and I got 88 7-string guitars with a scale length of 647mm or 648mm, vs. 168 7-string guitars overall. So slightly over half, meaning that "most" 7-string guitars sold on Thomann are in deed 25.5" scale. =)
@jubuttib
5 жыл бұрын
@@AzathothsAlarmClock The bloke on the right owns half of that same company too. =)
@thewrapstudio
4 жыл бұрын
This response should be pinned.
@inevitableveganfuture3915
4 жыл бұрын
But then you're invariably going to get a wound 'third' string, which is rubbish.
@SteelSkin667
5 жыл бұрын
I don't own a baritone, but I use D'addario's 13-62 set for tuning to B on a standard guitar. It's basically a 10 gauge 7-string set minus the 10 gauge high E, so it really feels correct compared to a set of 10s in standard E. The real issue though is that, as mentioned in the video, some guitars (thankfully not all) won't intonate properly. Caparison used to make "HGS" versions of their guitars with the bridge located a few mm further back to solve that problem.
@Ritchie2324
5 жыл бұрын
Whom ever did the editing ..and took ALL the acid... well done🌟. This twas awesome xx 🤘🏼
@lesolivierdelamort4134
5 жыл бұрын
2:54 ^^
@ditmarvanbelle1061
Жыл бұрын
So... I drilled holes, filed the nut and put bass strings on my guitar. Sounds quite country and western on a single coil pickup. 't Was an old cheap Stagg worth $30 but after butchering it the way I have, it's honestly surprisingly good haha!
@kiltymacbagpipe
5 жыл бұрын
I think I watch these videos for the editing as much as anything these days.
@adamcogan211
5 жыл бұрын
Holy hell, Lee’s bend at 20:20! Pure bliss!
@nicolaestelian-
5 жыл бұрын
Amon Amarth uses gibson explorer in b standard tuning
@piotrwojtaszek4295
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah this vid is a fun little experiment but hardly takes the question seriously. Using a different guitar you can easily drop to A or B without extreme gauge or too much string floppiness.
@MikaLagreen
5 жыл бұрын
And we have always used B tuning in Grave since 1988. Never had a problem ever with regular 6 stringed guitars.
@CTSmerv
5 жыл бұрын
I see a common tuning with bands like Mastodon as D with a dropped low A. Like having a 7 string without the #5 string.
@JasonGaskin
5 жыл бұрын
@@MikaLagreen Grave rules man! You guys are great!
@MikaLagreen
5 жыл бұрын
@@JasonGaskin thank you :)
@pookievanderbilt6889
5 жыл бұрын
100% Allen. That’s why I came to the comments. Lee has come a long way with his solo playing. So fun to watch him in each video get better. Really fun stuff
@Oilid
5 жыл бұрын
So funny! Hats off to Captain for creating the next level djent!!!!
@Mattiasljung
5 жыл бұрын
@20:19 Almost! Great video and The captains has improved a lot lately
@fritsvanzanten3573
5 жыл бұрын
Where is Dr. Drew Bypass when you need a lecture on String Theory?
@alexwalker67
5 жыл бұрын
I have an old Burns Marquee I did this to. It has the biggest neck I've ever held on it and it worked a treat. Growly, dark and mean. It's great.
@jeffdavis1360
5 жыл бұрын
a couple of players who use Baritone tunings on standard scale guitars: Jim Root & Jason Hook
@oleauby3852
5 жыл бұрын
Mick thomson, bring me the horizon and bullet for my valentine as well
@proudbrogressive315
8 ай бұрын
Bill Steer from Carcass as well.
@nephilymbass1
2 жыл бұрын
If you want to tune to b and don’t want to get all nerdy and try to figure out string gauges just buy a medium 7 string set and toss out the high e. Standard tuning for 7 string is beadgbe, b standard on 6 string is beadg#b. Most of the strings are already intended for the correct pitch. The g going to g# is such a small change it doesn’t make a noticeable difference.
@JonathanCooperGB
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, only just spotted the Captain's mug on his mug with Mayer!
@The.ScummyMan
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorites Anderton's videos.
@seqouiaflame
5 жыл бұрын
I use not even slinky on my Les Paul dropped to C standard and it sounds killer!!
@thistlesandwich
5 жыл бұрын
I added extra springs in the back of my squier strat, set it up with 11-54s, tuned to C# standard, and it sounds wicked
@blairmillward8408
5 жыл бұрын
The RG970XL needs to be reissued, it's perfection.
@ArcienPlaysGames
11 ай бұрын
4:33 Guitar and technical stuff aside, the editting throughout this video is impeccable
@kevdixon9761
5 жыл бұрын
Both Carcass and Type O Negative tuned to B with Ernie Ball Not Even Slinky 12-56 on regular 6 string guitars and it worked just fine. Plus I’m willing to bet Andertons sells plenty of 7 string guitars that are 25.5” so the scale length must be fine for B.
@disobey81
5 жыл бұрын
It pretty much is, I haven't been lower than B on a 25.5" but it sounds great. I have a 27" and 28" respectively and they will take you as low as G without problems.. but I had to go to .68-.14 gauge minimum as stuff got flubby!
@rainbowslushy223
5 жыл бұрын
Type o negative used a baritone guitar
@DanteLikesRock
3 жыл бұрын
actually, Kenny Hickey (Type-Os guitarist) used a 26.5" scale length baritone guitar.
@kevdixon9761
3 жыл бұрын
@@DanteLikesRock his signature Schecter may be 26.5 but he didn’t have that when he recorded type o negative albums.
@DRock1779
5 жыл бұрын
I use a schecter ultra vi for this purpose, it has the scale length for the heavier gauge (and comes with way heavier stock actually) but has the pickups and other features to get great tones in this range. It was designed to be a bass vi but it's really the ultimate baritone.
@EthanTheMighty
5 жыл бұрын
if it's sharp you move back the bridge away from the neck.... y'all did the opposite
@amysedai
5 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought too, they totally had me questioning myself on that one!
@lewisbulled6764
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Flat forwards, sharp backwards.
@BoozyBeggar
5 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe they did that. Watch Lee turn the screwdriver even, he goes lefty loosey.
@redlined4493
5 жыл бұрын
That is incorrect... You need to chase the needle so to speak.
@deshondetoro1638
2 жыл бұрын
I tune to B standard on regular thin strings on my schector-demon and it holds and plays awesome. Got a death gripping sound to it. I don't see why people think they have to put heavier strings on? Heavier strings sound sluggish, thinner strings hold very well and still feels and sounds like a guitar and not a bass
@goyatley
5 жыл бұрын
I had the same stringing issue with a genuine Eastwood Sidejack Baritone. String was too thick to go through the bridge. You'd think they thought that through, no?
@unchien2069
5 жыл бұрын
the edits on this video were just hilarious. Bravo to whoever edited this video
@VXTfour
5 жыл бұрын
My personal setup is: Drop C - 12, 16, 20, 34, 46, 60 (25.5 inch) Drop A - 13, 17, 30, 42, 54, 74 (both 25.5 and 24.75 scale) All NYXL (they feel less stiff for some reason) and at this gauge I can hit em pretty hard and they don't detune. Good for the chugs.
@RahulBasu6886
5 жыл бұрын
This was THE VIDEO I've been waiting for. Have an old faithful 6 string which isn't getting an awful lot of love of late.. this could be just the thing!
@livesongs82
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this I really wanted to know the science
@jazzman1954
3 жыл бұрын
You didn’t get it here!
@taliesintenerelli8510
5 жыл бұрын
Lee ur playing is really improving!! Sounds great!! Also great vid as usual!!!
@Lavabug
5 жыл бұрын
Metal bands have been tuning standard scale instruments to B and lower for decades. Cathedral, Nile, Carcass... all play Gibson scales in B. I tune my even shorter 24 5/8" scale mockingbird to B and A with 13-59 strings, it can be done and fully intonated right if you have a good bridge with enough range on the saddles.
@RobDogzInc
3 жыл бұрын
Now my question is did you have to file your nut to accommodate those bigger strings? And also did you change the truss rod? What if you want to go back to smaller strings and the nut is too wide for the new strings
@HelpingHandAlias
3 жыл бұрын
@@RobDogzInc Replace the nut or keep it as a baritone.
@marshalsea000
5 жыл бұрын
Just bought the red one Chappers Baritone from the shop, and now the "were just about to...". You know what, wouldn't change it, thing of beauty. Thanks to Jack and Rory (sorry can't remember your spelling) for patience and listening to the weird Post rock in the basement.
@fluffytoaster427
5 жыл бұрын
I’d pay for a Captain EP that had songs in C Standard
@kazaakas
5 жыл бұрын
IN metal baritone guitars are quite rare for the amount of B and C tunings you see. Amon Amarth and Kyuss come to mind, but there must be many more. Have been doing it forever.
@Ulfstigandr
5 жыл бұрын
Amon Amarth has been playin in B on Explorer Standards for years
@ghost.of.aleksz.salad.
5 жыл бұрын
for reals they got me doing it on all mine
@BoozyBeggar
5 жыл бұрын
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@robinweber6618
5 жыл бұрын
@@BoozyBeggar pursuit of vikings? 😄
@BoozyBeggar
5 жыл бұрын
@@robinweber6618 Yeah. Funny how distinctive those riffs are.
@thewrapstudio
4 жыл бұрын
The answer to the question posed in the title is absolutely "yes". Baritone tuning benefits from heavier strings for obvious reasons. The longer scale of the neck is helpful but as it says in the video, baritone essentially just means lower tuning. So get heavier strings (the heavier the bass strings the fuller the bass sound), tune down, raise the bridge to mitigate rattling and try it out. Getting the intonation is EASY-PEASEY, even with a Tun-O-Matic bridge as long as you don't go stupidly heavy on the gauges. No need for drilling or nut filing - or warping your neck. I'll eventually build a bespoke baritone guitar but for now I get all the Vic Flick and Duane Eddie (other, heavier guitarists are noted elsewhere in the comments) sounds I need from 48 to 12 gauge strings tuned B to B or (currently) A to A with single coil pups on a Tele copy I had lying around. After that, it's all about setting tone controls and honing your guitar-playing skills. So, in my view, anyone should definitely give it a go, especially if you've a spare guitar available, but only go and buy one if you really fall in love with the sounds, literally have all the money you'd ever need to support yourself and your family and are thoroughly averse to the concept of supporting any of your home country's charitable institutions. There really is no point in buying a baritone guitar just because guitar salesmen say they think you should. Or the chaps in this video, for that matter.
@garethlewis4586
4 жыл бұрын
8:14 RC says the minimum would be 60 gauge for the low string. While this may well be arguable, both Bill Steer (Carcass) and Rob Barrett (Cannibal Corpse) have used no heavier than 56 for low B and Bb tuning respectively. It's horses for courses and personal preference obviously but seems like an dull statement to me
@BenDover-bt5sm
4 жыл бұрын
Gareth Lewis I play in B and use Not Even Slinky’s, the tension is fine and I never have problems with tuning. So I totally agree that it is a dull statement
@willowsparks4576
Жыл бұрын
I use the Ernie Ball Mammoth Slinky (12-62) on my Les Paul Guitar in Drop B and it works well! the only thing that might bother some people is the wound G string but that's necessary for tuning this low imo
@edb3366
5 жыл бұрын
12-60 on a 27" scale six string for B standard. 10-48 + a 60 for 26.6" scale 7 string for Standard tuning.
@thmmke6926
5 жыл бұрын
its nice seeing rob laughing relaxed and happy,
@guitarreviews
5 жыл бұрын
Try Dunlop heavy core strings, higher tension with normal gauges! They made my 7 string (A-D) a dream! You could probably achieve your goal with them!
@squidwardstesticles5914
5 жыл бұрын
How does that even work? Like what are they doing to give them more resistance?
@markstanbrook5578
5 жыл бұрын
Squidward's Testicles the resonant frequency of a string is inversely proportional to its mass; or to put it your way the resistance to acceleration is mass. But instead of using more of the same string (thicker) they use a denser metal. Makes a lot of sense really. Switching from a 46 to a 64 or whatever will feel really different and affect the way you play. Having the lower tuning with the same gauge is going to be more familiar feeling and probably make life much easier for the player.
@squidwardstesticles5914
5 жыл бұрын
Mark Stanbrook what metal are they using?
@guitarreviews
5 жыл бұрын
@@squidwardstesticles5914 They use the same metals (nickel), but they change the ratio of wound wire to core wire. I think, as per the name, the core wire is thicker.
@squidwardstesticles5914
5 жыл бұрын
Steve's Musical Gear Reviews ah okay. Wtf was that guy talking about then
@Quetzalcoatl999
5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Snakey PRS sold the PRS tremonti baritone guitar that was 25.5 scale length(same scale as the G&L Caps using) and was setup for C#.
@suitsandstrings55
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember playing this and re reading the baritone label 3 times thinking it had to be wrong.
@lasvegasira
5 жыл бұрын
If the 12th fret is sharp during intonation, the saddle needs to be moved toward the heel of the guitar, not toward the neck.
@anime5h_m1shr4
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, can't believe they got that wrong in the video!
@xneurianx
5 жыл бұрын
Les Paul tuned to B into a fuzz pedal will always be a personal favourite. I prefer massive strings in general.
@WakingUpTheTitans
5 жыл бұрын
I have a question (to but not limited only to) for Chappers and the Captain. Can a baritone guitar be converted into a standard guitar? Like if you replace the neck with a standard scale neck and all.
@dubiousdaydream1695
5 жыл бұрын
Depends. I have a long scale guitar where the bridge is moved back a bit for the increased scale length. But I don't know if that's usually the case
@tygrbyt3684
3 жыл бұрын
Real hero here is Gav the tech. great to hear he's still with anderson's
@matheusmoreiradearaujo3267
5 жыл бұрын
20:20 the captain channels his inner Mayer!
@majorbalna
5 жыл бұрын
and then he looks around the room like "did y'all see that"?!
@zerosiii
5 жыл бұрын
I often tune my (standard scale) acoustic to Baritone tuning, with a pair of 12 gauge strings, sounds pretty ok, you can still pull it off. The low E can be a bit wobly, but it's pretty decent
@elmostachojuanoh
5 жыл бұрын
7:00 finally Korn went back to their original early sound
@marklnz
5 жыл бұрын
"Even I don't know what he's talking about there".... Great save Lee!!
@joshuamessenger
5 жыл бұрын
I knew a guy who played in Drop A# on his ESP M-series guitar with regular 10-gauge strings. His band was signed to Metal Blade. I still have no idea how he made it work.
@proudbrogressive315
7 ай бұрын
Play with gentle touch. Aggressive strumming doesn't equal heavier tone. As a matter of fact, light strings have better attack over the beefier sound of heavy strings.
@proteusswarm7291
5 жыл бұрын
Warmoth baritone conversation neck is one of the best guitar purchases I've made.
@chrishopkins209
5 жыл бұрын
Gregory Strand that reminds me that I need to put my Warmoth baritone neck onto a guitar soon
@WheresSeamus
5 жыл бұрын
I used to play 13-72 strings with my 25.5 LTD at Drop A, occasionally went down to Drop G but at that point it was a little too ridiculous.
@supermalevitality8532
5 жыл бұрын
B flat is about as low as you wanna go on a 25.5
@olid7947
5 жыл бұрын
Been playing some YOB songs ( A standard tuning) and I play a Monson Guitars Nomad (25.5) works like a charm with 14 to 68s
@RobbieTayVaughan
5 жыл бұрын
I played drop Bb on a 25.5 Hellraiser. With Floyd. And I couldn't get the adjustment all the way so it was sharp on the 12th fret. But not by a whole whole loy
@floriyoo1036
5 жыл бұрын
I use 13 to 64 on my 25,5 in Drop A#
@TheSpeenort
4 жыл бұрын
I use a seven string tuned A to A with an additional high D. It took a little getting used to the extra high string but it makes for some interesting chord shapes and I really like it for scales.
@Bob-vp3dc
2 жыл бұрын
As in A-D-G-C-E-A-D? What sort of music are you playing? And what gauge strings?
@TheSpeenort
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bob-vp3dc Yup, that's how it's tuned. It's a 24 fret Ibanez and I play just about anything. It does pretty good Djent. Super Slinky 10's (7string) off the shelf. I recently made a baritone CBG tuned A-E-A with a 26½" scale length.
@RandomUser179
4 жыл бұрын
Bill Steer of Carcass uses a Les Paul in B standard tuning on stage.
@jbag3408
4 жыл бұрын
Furthermore a Les paul JR with a Dogear pickup on some smaller occasions.
@saintluciaofficial2019
3 жыл бұрын
He's been doing so for over 30 years now. Still sounds great too. It's literally all about preference.
@bartekbanys2254
5 жыл бұрын
I am tuning Chapman Baritone Ml3(Red Beauty) to drop F and it's doom machine, stone rock, sludge killer. Lots of fun with this baritone, diffrent tunings. When i start playing guitar like about 25 years ago did the same with normal guitar and bass strings😂. Now i waiting for reverend baritone midnight Black it has shorter scale than Chapman anyway buy and try....
@satyarsh665
5 жыл бұрын
another easy solution, grab a 7 string guitar , tune it to B E A D F# B with a High E and Boom now you have a baritone ;) uncle ben actually done a video about it as well
@ChaosPootato
4 жыл бұрын
My Yamaha Pacifica is tuned to B standard, with 13-56 gauge strings and my bridge is absolutely maxed out. It kinda works though.
@johnjonestheman
5 жыл бұрын
To hell with all that- file the nut this, truss rod that, intonate the saddles (if your bridge even gives you enough wiggle room to even do it properly)… nawsah. Digitech Drop pedal all day long.
@DylexionTV
5 жыл бұрын
yeah if you want it to sound muddy and lifeless 😂
@luluskywo
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Same feel, same everything, no adjustments needed, djent on, djent off.
@luluskywo
5 жыл бұрын
@@Atttuner it really doesn't, unless you go to more than 5 semi tones down. Then it start sounding muddy
@johnjonestheman
5 жыл бұрын
@Dylexion Tv that's nonsense - you're speaking out of an orifice other than your mouth. The reproduction is flawless, with no latency or digital artifacts whatsoever. You've obviously never used one.
@dzeronut_boy
5 жыл бұрын
That's a more convenient way of going for lower tunings if you don't wanna spend alot of time setting up the guitar (It can be a pain to set up for different tunings)
@darktempest53
5 жыл бұрын
12, 16, 30, 42, 52, 68 in B standard on 25.5" scale. Perfect
@shanscoffeetime2770
5 жыл бұрын
ahahah cap's coffee mug with JM selfie lol
@KyleSevenoaks
5 жыл бұрын
I have an ML3-RC tuned baritone with 10-56 strings, I like a relly soft touch and that guitar handles it amazingly well.
@emanuelecampiglia5762
5 жыл бұрын
9:15 "do your fisty analogy" Dead.
@YouTube_User_9
2 жыл бұрын
Ive been putting bartone string sets on regular six strings for over 15 years. I even have a 24" scale Jaguar as a baritone. It works fine if you use heavy guage strings.
@wojothebard
Жыл бұрын
im rocking a jag too. what string set do you use ? and any adjustments to make ? had someone adjust intonation and nut size and everything, but still wanting more tuning stability. trying to get down to a # standard. thanks !
@YouTube_User_9
Жыл бұрын
@@wojothebard GHS used to make a set that I used they just called them baritone but it was from their custom series. But today Kalium is the place to go.
@wojothebard
Жыл бұрын
@@KZitem_User_9 threw on some ernie baritone strings onto the jag. tuned to a# standard and it sounds great. thanks for the rec
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