"astrology is a science" and then "i interpret the astrology to fit my desired result" that is literally the antithesis of science..
@Galiant2010
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if people did that with physics. Like gravity. "What does this ball want? If I throw it up it comes back down, therefore it wants to be with me. If I just let go of it then it falls to the ground, so it must want to get away from me. If I throw it, it won't come back because it thinks I don't want it." Astrology and flat earthers make me so frustrated because they ignore logic and data and make up a narrative to fit their own views. And that's gotta be the worst way to live. You're life is basically a lie at that point, and you're too thick headed to even realize it.
@JoeBrandAG
2 жыл бұрын
So, astrology is NOT a science that's why arrogant people call it "pseudo-science" but then again, it's also true that it's NOT NOT-A-SCIENCE because, to be a "pseudo"-science it should be partially true/functional... So, Astrology is not a science because it involves the individual's interpretation of abstract factors that can't be pinned down to the point you can replicate it 100% of the times"... which is exactly the case with Psychology... "Oh, but we can see the chemical reactions on the brain!" Yes, and we can also measure the gravity of ALL planets on earth, but we can't prove their correlation with astrology's claims (because science just doesn't want to give astrology a chance, I mean its so easy to prove it's wrong but they don't because that's how science works when there's a new hypothesis that clearly shows some results) just like how psychologists can't prove which chemical reactions correlate to which trauma/stimulus/etc... so they're both pseudo-sciences.
@confidential303
2 жыл бұрын
haley you totally missed the boat on this.
@RONOVLOGZ
2 жыл бұрын
@@JoeBrandAG astrology isn’t backed by empirical data, thus the claim that astrology being a science cannot be true. The claim that it can’t not be science is a redundancy to attempt to create a counter argument that is faulty at its root.
@benellis273
2 жыл бұрын
@@thelittleowl8399 go off king
@Patterrz
3 жыл бұрын
Listening to the Astrologists talk, you can't convince me they're not just making it up as they go
@hamburger9677
3 жыл бұрын
Alr bro
@electronicbamboo6764
3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@cartersmith9842
3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that how talking works...?
@lukassferracin08
3 жыл бұрын
@@cartersmith9842 you make things up in conversation? thats just lying
@astralfluxaf
3 жыл бұрын
You can’t understand things you know nothing about…
@HaUynH24
3 жыл бұрын
Crystal healers and geologist, that’ll be interesting lol
@tasneemahmed5821
3 жыл бұрын
That would be freaking embarrassing. Imagine believing a freaking ROCK can do anything let alone work the cosmic powers in your favor. I don’t understand human beings I swear
@joccie7113
3 жыл бұрын
@@tasneemahmed5821 embarrassing but nothing could ever beat flat earthers vs scientist
@stinkygremlin267
3 жыл бұрын
@@tasneemahmed5821 I think rocks can heal you if you believe in it bacuse it's a placebo
@xadielplasencia3674
3 жыл бұрын
I think they would also need a doctor
@MrWongerz
3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great suggestion!
@arbabashraf1126
4 ай бұрын
As a Physics Graduate, when he says 'energy' it itches my brain in ways I cannot explain.
@Siegfried5846
2 ай бұрын
Say that again after you try 🍄
@ahsnsb
2 ай бұрын
Physics grad here. The casual use of energy/quantum other scientific terms by these uneducated people is so infuriating
@timothybrown8424
2 ай бұрын
It’s a buzz word now.
@ShubhamThakur-lq3uc
2 ай бұрын
I cannot agree more.
@dn45678
2 ай бұрын
That’s the difference between spiritual and scientific people. I understand what he means by energy 💀
@Lightnin2511
3 жыл бұрын
best part astronomer: well im not a evolutionary biologist so i wouldnt know astrologist:well im a cancer rising so i feel the moon and i know this is comedic gold
@hectorcastro4956
3 жыл бұрын
The guy really knew what his limitations on the topic were and then that girl went on to say that lmao
@nafi_q
3 жыл бұрын
Fr
@dimitrifranck
3 жыл бұрын
The more I watched the video and listened to the astrologists, the more I realized that they have a lot in common with religion as a whole. Religion is not based on facts and cannot be proven but wants to pass as the ultimate truth. Personal experience plays a huge role in the foundation of people’s religiosity. Instead of energy, religion appeals to faith in order to supposedly prove its trustworthiness and reliability.
@HoneyFromTheHive
3 жыл бұрын
Very funny. Though also she is very wrong, 28 days is the average cycle but the cycle length varies from woman to woman. So I guess being cancer rising didn't help her know there!
@tripleschaeyeon
3 жыл бұрын
she immediately reminded me of that meme "Omg I crashed a car! I'm such a libra"
@artisanaltoast9085
3 жыл бұрын
I liked hearing the astronomer talk about how the moon affects his mood by being so beautiful
@kstar1489
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the idea that scientists are these cold calculating inhuman robots is an insane assumption a lot of people have. Scientifically minded people can be just as connected to and emotionally impacted by the universe and it’s beauty as anyone.
@justahugenerd1278
3 жыл бұрын
It's so cute, I love hearing scientists talk about the beauty in the things they study, idk why that specifically but it brings joy to my heart
@ianlauerastro
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, I truly love the stars and the beauty of the cosmos!
@kit106
3 жыл бұрын
It really does. Taking my astronomy course has made me look at life different. It’s such a beautiful feeling to know you are apart of such an amazing universe.
@DeepVoiceBryan
3 жыл бұрын
Food does that for me. Lol
@ezicanshred
2 жыл бұрын
This is like an actual proffesional blacksmith talking to a guy who crafted 10,000 axes in minecraft
@flurifiction
2 жыл бұрын
As a Minecraft player I feel offended
@scottbecker4367
2 жыл бұрын
Psh. Amateurs. Talk to me when you've crafted 1000 iron daggers in Skyrim.
@steevinsuhgahl1161
2 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head.
@jovankuzmanovski5324
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this laugh, I needed it.
@smolcatastrophe2906
2 жыл бұрын
ahahhahahahahhahh
@TheSixerFixer
5 ай бұрын
"Because it's been practiced for so long it's a science." Well gee I guess that makes witch-hunting a science.
@Idkchangethislater
2 ай бұрын
Science of Fellatio rise up 🔝 🗣️
@myoptimumpride5178
2 ай бұрын
Religion must be science then
@Loctorak
26 күн бұрын
I'm a graduate of pooping studies. PhD, in fact.
@r.b.5050
2 жыл бұрын
„Psychology is not rooted in a scientific method but in a person‘s energy“ cries in statistics
@in-self-sabotage-mode
2 жыл бұрын
Legit lmao I would not want her for a psych consult😂😂😂
@bupekabamba6017
2 жыл бұрын
I came to the comments section to group cringe at that statement.
@jazminreyes2326
2 жыл бұрын
Cries in psychological statistical methods in psychology and experimental psychology
@chocofrogs1115
2 жыл бұрын
Statistics yup, statistics yup yup
@gergelyvirag533
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine the reaction on your final exam from the opposer when you say "My thesis is rooted in my personal energy so i thought, no need to use ANOVA". :D
@GabrielRaskind
2 жыл бұрын
“I’m not an evolutionary biologist so idk” “I’m a cancer rising so I feel the moon” Yep that pretty much sums it up
@user-jq2wg6vk4p
2 жыл бұрын
I believe in astrology, but she made us look insane 😬
@alasdairscott4718
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-jq2wg6vk4p you are insane
@user-jq2wg6vk4p
2 жыл бұрын
@@alasdairscott4718 I’m not insane for having beliefs. Just until the past decade, we didn’t know everything was energy, and we still don’t know what dark energy is. There is still so much about the universe that we don’t know for us to be pompous enough to think we have all of the answers. I don’t believe in mainstream astrology. I believe in constellational astrology. I believe in patterns in the universe. If that makes me insane, then so be it, but at least I’m not being told by others what to believe.
@animealpha4795
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-jq2wg6vk4p past decade ? Dude you need to get back to science asap ! Ever heard of e=mc² ? Yeah that's basically a conversion equation of converting mass into energy. That's year 1905 when we literally devised a equation to calculate how much energy we have in our universe. And yeah, you had to know that the entire universe is made of energy if you wanna start working on discovering an equation about it.
@koig8393
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-jq2wg6vk4p we are closer to having a perfect model to explain everything in the universe thanks to the advancement of the quantum theories, so if u want answers you can sit and wait cuz they'll keep coming
@unicornbiomes
3 жыл бұрын
“It’s a science because I use math” …honey I use math in dungeons and dragons that doesn’t make it a scientific pursuit
@floatytrouty
3 жыл бұрын
I used math to calculate resources in Minecraft too,math is merely a tool to describe basically the language of reality,we use these tool to describe a lot of stuff including science
@gypsyhannie
3 жыл бұрын
BAHAHAHAHA amazing comment
@jasonz31
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah umm i think he was the most radical one
@vespeyre
3 жыл бұрын
AMAZING!
@reasondro
3 жыл бұрын
yup basically
@willdouglas9896
9 ай бұрын
I respect these scientists for being able to stay so calm with these takes, as a physics student I wouldn't be able to stop myself laughing tbh
@altaccount9716
9 ай бұрын
Im surprised the astronomers said something wrong. 13:50. So the thing about that is that it is because of the speed of light, and it took that long for the light to reach you. But it's not only the speed of light. it's the maximum speed of the universe. For example, if the Sun disappeared, we wouldn't know for around eight minutes. That's because that's how long the light would take to reach us. But it's not only the light. it's everything that affects us from the sun, like the gravitational pull. The gravitational pull wouldn't be noticed instantly ethier it would be noticed when we saw the light. That's because everything's maximum speed is the speed of light. So if this beetlejuice plant/star, i don't know what it is, disappeared, we wouldn't feel the effects of its disappearance until we saw the light. Sorry if the English is bad, im only 15, and im not from an English speaking country. Also, source: i learned this from watching a video from Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
@BullShitThat
8 ай бұрын
@@altaccount9716 I believe you missed her point entirely, she's saying because it takes photons, gravity, cosmic rays, etc. *time* to propagate through space to reach us here on Earth; then how is it possible that Astrologers are using such celestial objects to make present-day claims about humanity, WHEN those same objects no loner currently exist in this present-day to be interpreted at all. But there is a rebuttal/counterargument to this that could have been made by the Astrologers, but they're not versed enough in science to make this logical counterpoint
@ND7226
8 ай бұрын
Bro astrology and physics don't have much in common. You are not more qualified to judge than any normie
@SaintIC
8 ай бұрын
@@ND7226bad take
@tiinan375
8 ай бұрын
@@ND7226they have very much in common what are you taking about
@tomliao3073
3 жыл бұрын
Time and time again, Jubilee keep showing us that the most clueless people are always the most confident.
@sisi5444
2 жыл бұрын
yep.... Dunning-Kruger effect
@hawkmaza5551
2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@jeidelgado3023
2 жыл бұрын
Factss
@christinagaller4374
2 жыл бұрын
Jw who are u referring to here?
@-manillazilla8327
2 жыл бұрын
@@christinagaller4374 obviously the people that believe in astrology
@lostrainforests8259
3 жыл бұрын
That astronomer stepping forward when asked if celestial objects influence people’s moods and going on and on about pretty planets literally made my day
@Pivotification
3 жыл бұрын
My problem is though, that they could be right. I don’t see why planets being far away means they can’t influence us, they do, we can see them and thus experience them. But I just don’t see ANY evidence to what astrologers say. I could copy their ideas and make up my own and then defend them with new ideas like they
@kstar1489
3 жыл бұрын
@@Pivotification except your think off intuition instead of evidence. Just because we can see the light from a star (one that possibly no longer even exists) doesn’t mean they have an actual physical effect on us other than looking pretty and effecting us emotionally in that way. We know the gravity from far off celestial bodies doesn’t effect us in any significant way objectively.
@_sam_marquez
3 жыл бұрын
@Are You Going To Do The 'Ora Ora' Thing? A peer reviewed study recently came out about how our moon affects us physically depending on whether it’s a full moon or a new moon. If the moon is one of the reasons we have tides & affects us physically in terms of our sleep cycle (which can then affect mood) who knows what is possible when it comes to celestial bodies having a influence over us.
@leulgetachew696
3 жыл бұрын
@@_sam_marquez causation =/= correlation.
@thastayapongsak4422
3 жыл бұрын
@@_sam_marquez That's just a cultural effect. Full half and new moon means different things in each culture and to each people. It doesn't prove anything.
@olajong2315
3 жыл бұрын
These guys said "energy" more times than I did today and I'm taking chemistry and physics.
@Mariane.w
3 жыл бұрын
LMAOO
@rocketman3770
3 жыл бұрын
i just 'feel' that energy surging through me
@AleXander-eo3iz
3 жыл бұрын
Astrologist: "If you take all the energies of the sun you'll get enough energies to create more energies inside people. Unless the energies conflict with your shakkra energies then you'll just be left with two energies" Another Astrologist: "YASSS"
@olajong2315
3 жыл бұрын
@@AleXander-eo3iz I feel the energies
@shlomojaffe1173
3 жыл бұрын
@@AleXander-eo3iz The energy in this statement really allowed my energy to feel your energy
@Mason-lr5dz
8 ай бұрын
One thing that stood out to me is how often the astronomers asked questions about what the astrologists believe, compared to how often the astrologists asked.
@dwighteldrichmanaol8922
4 ай бұрын
That's cuz they have to "defend" astrology whereas astronomy is set in stone.
@tomotrono242
4 ай бұрын
what ive gathered and i might be wrong is that astrology is a religion
@a-jjjjjjj
3 ай бұрын
Why would they ask questions about what the astronomers believe? Astronomy is widely accepted so they don't really need to defend their beliefs, nor would the astrologists be confused about what they think.
@dasani.like.the.water.
2 ай бұрын
@@tomotrono242Pretty much. It’s a belief system with no scientific evidence to back it up. So yeah, exactly like a religion.
@mindhackz
2 ай бұрын
@@dwighteldrichmanaol8922If by set in stone you mean observable, ok.
@squidwardtesticles1191
3 жыл бұрын
I think astrology should be kept as a spiritual belief, not compare it to science
@squidwardtesticles1191
2 жыл бұрын
@Extended Long I practice the metaphysical & in my opinion it’s a belief not science I wouldn’t even bring it up into science Bc ik it would just be debunked as not scientifically accurate or possible
@squidwardtesticles1191
2 жыл бұрын
@Extended Long okay, and it was evaluated in this video lol therefore it’ll be a spiritual belief
@UrbanDecayLova247
2 жыл бұрын
Most people I know don’t even see it as a science they just like it for fun, yet people still get so angry about it 😂 I think people who hate astrology need lives personally.
@UrbanDecayLova247
2 жыл бұрын
@whatupbrahs and most people I know just view it as fun…so again people who hate astrology so much need lives 😂
@queennatifah_
2 жыл бұрын
@@UrbanDecayLova247 truth
@Ethan-vo7po
3 жыл бұрын
I just came home from a physics exam and the number of times this guy said energy made me cry.
@orchidtea12
3 жыл бұрын
I’m actually wheezing right now
@eldritch_moth3191
3 жыл бұрын
You keep using that word… I don’t think it means what you think it means
@gooberthorpos8195
3 жыл бұрын
ikr... They constantly use the word in a non-scientific way
@karatefutzi
3 жыл бұрын
Well Sir i got a fact for you then ! nothing MATTERS unless its ENERGY huehuehuheue
@OmniMale
3 жыл бұрын
My mom says that crap. I wanna carve out my eardrums with spoons. Ughh.
@Cyrotech
3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know people thought astrology was a science
@nick-vv1lz
3 жыл бұрын
Yep there's the people who think it's interesting but don't take it serious there's the people who like it in a spiritual sense but know it isn't science and then there's the people who take it way to seriously and ask you your sign before your name and tell you stuff like "oh your a virgo well I'm a gemini and we're just not going to get along together"
@nashi._.7563
3 жыл бұрын
@@nick-vv1lz Yep, I like it in a spiritual sense. Not in a militant sense. I would never disregard someone based on their sign. That’s silly lol
@cariocaemfuria3946
3 жыл бұрын
This is why we have the term pseudoscience.
@wwxx23
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly i thought we were doing it for fun 💀
@rosealexander9007
3 жыл бұрын
@@nick-vv1lz yup I’m one of those that think it’s interesting but definitely don’t take it seriously lol 😆
@Spacedoubt7
3 ай бұрын
I’m a high schooler taking a college astronomy class. There’s this girl who thought it was an astrology class and she was excited to learn how all the signs work and how the constellations connect our “energies”… I was about to throw a chair…
@eladmint
2 ай бұрын
LOL😂
@Ponitypon
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Joshua-dc1bs
Ай бұрын
😏
@neobirb8597
Жыл бұрын
The issue I find with astrology is that it, inherently, can never be "wrong". Every inconsistency is shrugged off as an alternative interpretation.
@ilTHfeaa
10 ай бұрын
which is why it’s not a science.
@qingxinn_
9 ай бұрын
^^^ this can be applied to religion fr fr
@philipshumway9943
9 ай бұрын
@@qingxinn_facts!! if it does not have the ability to be falsified then nothing is really being said
@doorlord1521
9 ай бұрын
@@ilTHfeaa exactly. Science isn't always as fun as astrology for this reason. It's much more about the external world telling you what's real rather than you discovering for yourself what's real. Which is why scientists will work for years to prove their theories and will often end up being wrong because that's just the way it works.
@SRVarma1993
9 ай бұрын
That is the definition of an unfalsifiable claim. The very basic minimal requirement of a scientific proposition is that it should be falsifiable.
@lila6621
3 жыл бұрын
they should've made the astrologers guess the astronomers' risings, that would have been fun
@yousifa7354
2 жыл бұрын
Well the lady said you can’t know someone that well after first meeting them to make a prediction, so they’d probably just say that if they get the signs wrong.
@shuzennn
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that :)))
@altheuss
2 жыл бұрын
so to get rising signs we need the exact birth time down to hours and minutes, place and date of birth, not everyone has their birth time with them (usually can be found in birth certificate though). just to clarify :3
@christinagaller4374
2 жыл бұрын
Great idea. At least they can prove something. If it’s science, there should be reliability.
@pass_da_knoccs83
2 жыл бұрын
LMAOOO 😂😂😂 Precisely
@rocketrakkor9424
3 жыл бұрын
“Psychology isn’t a science” Psychologists: 👁👄👁
@parthavinautiyal
3 жыл бұрын
@Alexa Brock and some people’s ignorance would change it?
@gabyboutros1510
3 жыл бұрын
@Alexa Brock I mean people do not define what science is and what is not lol, as these astrologers are doing. For something to be considered as a science it needs a lot of scrutinization and steps, etc.
@Rationality4Life
3 жыл бұрын
Psychology is a science though. Human behaviour is understood by conducting many experiments often involving the manipulation of variables. Mathematical tests are done to test the significance of the results and quantitative data is also often collected and used for analysis and comparison.
@ricochetsixtyten
3 жыл бұрын
definition: the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. yes, its a science, albeit a soft science with more variables and more chaotic, if you can study animals and call it science then you can study humans and call it science, were also animals and we behave in complex ways
@moomoothecow3091
3 жыл бұрын
Its more of a soft science. A subcategory of biology. But psychological data is sometimes quite hard to reproduce because people's minds are so unique.
@hajartaoussi5537
4 ай бұрын
Kudos to the astronomers for staying calm the whole time
@newchapterasmr
3 жыл бұрын
"I'm a cancer rising so I feel the moon" I can't deal with this
@Numb_
3 жыл бұрын
when Nina said that they have anecdotal evidence, I clocked out 12:40 btw. you can't argue or reason with a person that thinks like that and the fact that they still call it a science is just an insult to the scientist community.
@luigi1606
3 жыл бұрын
my grandma got cancer and i hope she is rising too now that she is not with us anymore...
@Darketac
3 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t help but laugh after she said that 😂
@aliquidgaming1068
3 жыл бұрын
@@luigi1606 lmfao stfu lol I'm dying over here....not of cancer, of laughter. Will rise off the ground at some point
@qqq3494
3 жыл бұрын
what’s so funny about it?
@peaceblossom8
3 жыл бұрын
Nina lost me the minute she said you could use astrology "to validate and affirm the things that you feel in yourself". That is pretty much the definition of confirmation bias; and if you've got confirmation bias going on, your science is at the very least heavily flawed and likely not really science at all.
@shuruktigarajeswaran9852
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. When they say they’re just showing possibilities. They just pick and choose things until it perfectly encapsulates the person. There are so many components to astrology that you can just take out and add things until they fit
@alukardio6991
3 жыл бұрын
@@shuruktigarajeswaran9852 yep, and they make the VAGUEST interpretations so that whoever is reading that feels like it's describing themself. For example: most aquarius moon don't like to fit in a box, they thrive in wild conditions. Like that's at least 60% of people on earth. Mockery
@peterf08
3 жыл бұрын
She is literally just a con artist
@calvinkay1747
3 жыл бұрын
Lmaoooooooooooo
@iicloudydrxxmsii2878
3 жыл бұрын
She was so judgemental and seemed like she wasn't hearing out the otherside.
@seanrobinson7539
Жыл бұрын
The amount of times he said "energy" without it actually meaning anything was mind numbing
@DougDoNascimento
4 ай бұрын
And when he kept saying "people actually sat down and figured this out"
@Rebius
4 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to ask them to replace the word energy with something else. Would it be the same word over and over, or would they rather come up with more words that better describe what they mean by energy?
@yashasm753
3 ай бұрын
Ya figured it out these frauds play with unclear definitions and barnam statements to fool the gullible like you @@DougDoNascimento
@markherbert4723
4 ай бұрын
New statement: "I feel comfortable lying to people in order to get their money."
@SupremeVerdict
3 жыл бұрын
"I'm never wrong. I don't miss" *5 seconds later* "Well that's when the interpretation comes into play if they say it's not true" So you just wiggle things about until it's so vague that anything can fit and then you take a mallet to it until it does?
@synlion
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. They even said it in the beginning. Astrology is just about finding personality models that resonate with you, i.e. give you the feeling of recognizing some aspect of your personality in them. It makes people believe that they understand themselves because it labels previously unlabeled psychological occurrences for them.
@SupremeVerdict
3 жыл бұрын
@@synlion it's just confirmation bias, the game lol.
@theotherleonaygirl
3 жыл бұрын
It’s literally cold reading. That’s what “psychics” do to convince people that they have paranormal abilities.
@SupremeVerdict
3 жыл бұрын
@@theotherleonaygirl yup yup
@mr.swedishfish12
3 жыл бұрын
it's called the barnum effect. their "visions" and conclusions/interpretations are so vague and general that it could apply to just about anyone and people think it's true.
@hc7092
3 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe Jubilee still haven’t done Africans v African Americans 😭
@robertking4645
3 жыл бұрын
I assume it sort of not easy to find real Africans and get them to participate in your videos.
@noemiepalan7247
3 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@bobaGogo
3 жыл бұрын
@@robertking4645 Africa is a big continent, shouldn't be that difficult to find someone in Africa who would be interested in participating
@mrsxber1916
3 жыл бұрын
@@robertking4645 agreed especially in the US lol. Legit theyd have to go search for Africans who just moved to the US
@Aasmaa07
3 жыл бұрын
They could do 1st generation Africans or international students/workers. I am sure there are some in California
@EmperorsNewWardrobe
4 ай бұрын
This episode was very necessary to show that middle ground can at times be a very bad thing
@a-jjjjjjj
3 ай бұрын
This one is weird because the two "sides" are both completely different yet not mutually exclusive. One is a field of science, one is a set of spiritual beliefs. The astrologists aren't even challenging anything about astronomy.
@filippetrovic845
2 ай бұрын
@@a-jjjjjjjSpiritual beliefs 😂 But you can only use word “spiritual” from a stance of someone who doesnt know what he is talking about. You probably cant describe what is spiritual yourself.
@buttercat2718
Ай бұрын
@@filippetrovic845i mean it’s a belief system isn’t it? That’s the main point the commenter was making abt astrology idk why you’re hung up on the “spiritual” part
@No-cg9kj
22 күн бұрын
@@a-jjjjjjj that's because not one of them could pass enough calculus to have anything relevant to say about astronomy lol.
@Jisungs.moving.castle
3 жыл бұрын
“I’m a cancer rising so I feel the moon.” That made me giggle tbh.
@jennyoyster5054
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@giodalle
3 жыл бұрын
In astrology, the Ascendant is what zodiac sign was RISING over the horizon, to the east, you can take a glance at the sky to appreciate this. Use an app or something. Anyways, the rising or ascendant is what was first marked upon your being to take the role of, when you came out of the womb. It's how "you" or how others may perceive you, and physically; by first impression mostly. Your looks. Cancer is tied to being ruled by the moon, so... she feels connected to it. As she could, a Cancer rising.
@Ghanemq8
3 жыл бұрын
@@giodalle who asked? 😊
@giodalle
3 жыл бұрын
@@Ghanemq8 wow, great question dude.
@Blaatann53
3 жыл бұрын
@@giodalle ...so who asked?
@jesswinter
3 жыл бұрын
That girl did not just compare psych and actual therapy with astrology. Oof. Thank you to the astronomer that corrected her.
@federicamottadelli9333
3 жыл бұрын
As a Psychology student, I died inside a little bit.
@ebonyhardiman7519
3 жыл бұрын
There are many people who view therapy in the same way people view astrology. So yes I did. I am a therapy student so using my knowledge of both I stated my own opinion.
@viniciosgomes1945
3 жыл бұрын
I mean, I think that astrology, in regards to its psychology aspects, can be somewhat helpful to those who practice it. However, everything else that says planets and stars can affect how we should feel or what we should do is plain gibberish, then rendering astrology unnecessary at the end of the day.
@emotional_st0rm
3 жыл бұрын
"psychology is a soft science" says literally only people who have never heard an actual psychologist speak .-.
@sleepyaoki
3 жыл бұрын
I was really irritated when Ebony categorized psychology and astrology in an equal level. Psychology is far more deeper and important that what people believe in, in astrology
@sunnyy788
2 жыл бұрын
The girl studying psychology sadly represented psychology in a misleading light. Psychology IS based on the scientific method, we DO have theories that guilds our research and these theories and hypotheses are then restructured if they are not supported by evidence. Yes, it is a soft science, but NO it is not comparable to astrology.
@user-ur2wd8du4z
2 жыл бұрын
louder!!!!
@brandonsolanes9217
2 жыл бұрын
I disagree, I don’t believe it is a soft science whatsoever, that is hard science, as complicated and intricate as physics chemistry or biology, honestly it’s people like this that water down its significance because the real physiologist (unlike the girl in this video, who clearly said that in order to fair over some sort of credibility) have done remarkable work and have conducted and observe crazy experiments that deserve more recognition, not someone that poses as one just to undermine all of the work of great minds that came before
@sunnyy788
2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonsolanes9217 Thanks for that! I completely agree with you regarding how you describe the science. When it comes to soft vs. hard science, I guess that depends on the definition you go by, as it is still quite vague, and what aspects you want to focus on. Main point - psychology is a science and I'm glad that other people agree with me on the fact that the girl merely tried to make herself seem more credible.
@cpisarek4284
2 жыл бұрын
Coming from a scientist in a biological field, I 100% agree that psychology is a science that is based on the scientific method! I think people get hung up on the fact that what was once considered fact may not prove to be true in the future. But that's science for ya. Lol
@cliffinhokisero3747
2 жыл бұрын
Psychology is a science
@Void-Realm
8 ай бұрын
I hate the overuse and incorrect usage of the word energy in stuff like astrology and pseudoscience.
@Ryan-gx4ce
8 ай бұрын
My first thought exactly
@Vinny00754
4 ай бұрын
Kidding, they are nuts.
@a-jjjjjjj
3 ай бұрын
"Energy" is allowed to have multiple meanings in different contexts. It annoys me when people use it excessively and vaguely but they clearly aren't trying to talk about the concept of energy in physics
@juliasweeney1230
2 ай бұрын
Dont forget quantum and resonates also
@oyuyuy
Жыл бұрын
You can really see how the astronomers ponder over how ruthless they want to be
@skyguytomas9615
9 ай бұрын
Ponder? They came in thirsty for blood. 😂
@Tavat
9 ай бұрын
@@skyguytomas9615Nah, they were incredibly gentle with these weirdos.
@dragonmaster909
8 ай бұрын
@@skyguytomas9615they were considerably nice
@lexivivid8073
8 ай бұрын
This!!!!!!!!!!
@palubaker117
7 ай бұрын
Factssss
@adamhicken8898
3 жыл бұрын
These astrologists remind me of politicians, they can talk and talk without ever saying anything. They also contradict themselves with their own logic, which is also like modern politicians
@Random-sk6hm
3 жыл бұрын
fr
@rocketman3770
3 жыл бұрын
the astronomers were the sensible moderates, and the astrologists were the alt right and woke left lmao
@taylosaurus
3 жыл бұрын
@@rocketman3770 make way for the enlightened centrist, everyone
@rocketman3770
3 жыл бұрын
@@taylosaurus make way for woke Taylor, her entitled opinion supersedes all common folk lmfao
@taylosaurus
3 жыл бұрын
@@rocketman3770 I never specified my stance lol, way to prove me right sir
@wolfpuppclips2371
2 жыл бұрын
"Is astrology a science?" "No" There you go, saved you 22 minutes.
@jamangel
2 жыл бұрын
Lolll
@kstishko6771
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks cap
@micahroohi9687
2 жыл бұрын
fax
@journeyinspirit
2 жыл бұрын
It's more a mythology/legend connected to the symbols. Everyone has their own interpretation tho so I'm not gunna go that rabbit hole lmao
@christopherstein2024
2 жыл бұрын
@@journeyinspirit So it's fiction.
@tormartinab
4 ай бұрын
I know I'm late, but calling the sun and moon planets at 14:10 is just wild to me
@AstronomyAdmirer
3 ай бұрын
And also saying Pluto is a planet also 😂
@iamhere9758
2 ай бұрын
@@AstronomyAdmirer well, in astrology we describe Pluto as a planet.
@AstronomyAdmirer
2 ай бұрын
@@iamhere9758 Pluto is a dwarf planet Not a planet
@iamhere9758
2 ай бұрын
@@AstronomyAdmirer I can repeat my statement as much as I need to, until you stop for a moment and actually read carefully what I wrote "in ASTROLOGY we describe Pluto as a planet".
@AstronomyAdmirer
2 ай бұрын
@@iamhere9758 I don’t care what you describe in astrology It’s a pseudoscience and I have no time for it
@ayamostafa5919
3 жыл бұрын
Id like to see belivers scientists vs atheist scientists.
@hamburger9677
3 жыл бұрын
wouldn’t be that interesting imo
@stephanierivera7143
2 жыл бұрын
I WOULD LOVE THIS
@ayeshaahsan7931
2 жыл бұрын
Not as bad. Believer scientists do not claim religion is a fact based science.
@krizhiel6376
2 жыл бұрын
THIS
@SB-no9pz
2 жыл бұрын
I SECOND THIS
@lalagurl71
2 жыл бұрын
My heart died when she said psychology doesn’t use the scientific method... it is a real science people !
@confidential303
Жыл бұрын
it b is kind a sad that you are studying psychology , the real psychologists were open minded in those days
@PresidentJeanAuguste
Жыл бұрын
@@confidential303 Your sudden reponse after 4 months is news to me
@silvervixen007
Жыл бұрын
Yeah.. I don't know why she said that
@jailafrappecommetaimes2931
Жыл бұрын
Its ability to experiment effectively is very limited by ethics and uncontrollable variables, it doesn’t sit at the same standards as the natural sciences
@Senriam
Жыл бұрын
Ehhhhh, speaking as an individual pursuing a graduate degree, I’d have to say that there are plenty of individuals in the scientific community who are skeptical of psychology’s status as a science.
@CantComeUpWithAGoodName
2 жыл бұрын
Ashley is so sharp. She always realises what’s going on when there is a miscommunication and can put it into words spot on. Apart from her obvious expertise of course.
@ianv2875
2 жыл бұрын
Yeees
@ikebeckman1074
2 жыл бұрын
@@inthebegninnging5166 bruh that’s sus asf 🤡🤡
@Elias.__
2 жыл бұрын
Right
@eaj008
2 жыл бұрын
@@ikebeckman1074 Fr💀
@annejia5382
2 жыл бұрын
true
@ovrthemoon5309
3 жыл бұрын
i almost lost it when that one woman said psychology is not rooted by the scientific method - this is absolutely not true. as someone about to graduate with a bachelor’s in the subject, although the field of psychology does have its issues, what we know CAN be backed by empirical research. we know what therapeutical techniques and medications work to improve symptoms of mental disorders because of randomized/controlled scientific trials.
@meeranair1
3 жыл бұрын
Yes thank you! As a psych student, I was up in arms when she said that. Don't need the scientific method to prove she had no idea what she was talking about.
@loverrlee
3 жыл бұрын
That is true, but it’s called a “soft science” because all the scientific trials are based on testimonials. Isn’t it the same for astrology? We just haven’t done any scientific trials based in astrology yet.
@ovrthemoon5309
3 жыл бұрын
@@loverrlee i wouldn’t say ALL studies are based on testimonials alone. sure, subjective variables like resilience and well-being are hard to measure or observe directly, so studies on these can often rely on participant self-reports. but studies DO exist using direct observation on behavior as evidence, most often with animal subjects like mice or hamsters (especially with studies pertaining to drug use disorders or the like). i also don’t see how anyone could conduct a true scientific study on astrology, since the whole point is that you’re “born” with certain traits based on star placements at your time of birth - you can’t just randomly assign someone a new time of birth or natal chart to see if they suddenly act any differently.
@ebonyhardiman7519
3 жыл бұрын
I said that not to be disrespectful. From what I've studied in my masters program, I see psychology as an interpretation of human behavior that is backed by science. Unlike astrology which I see as an interpretation of human behavior that is not back by science. There's levels, I'm not saying psychology and astrology are the same thing or on the same level but I do see overlap and I do consider astrology an soft science.
@ovrthemoon5309
3 жыл бұрын
@@ebonyhardiman7519 this is an interesting perspective to have - thanks for the clarification! although i (respectfully) disagree on your stance of astrology as a soft science, but with your master’s degree perhaps you have learned something i haven’t yet haha, would be interesting to know how you got into astrology and what led you to considering it a soft science
@yaboi772
2 жыл бұрын
Astronomer: “Gravitational forces between far away celestial bodies are negligible” Astrology: “How do you know that?” Astronomer: “I’ve studied physics for many years to understand how gravity works” Astrology: “Sure, well we have plenty of anecdotal evidence” Is this girl smoking crack? Like wtf makes you think that’s a valid argument?😂
@user-pe2yx9kt4e
2 жыл бұрын
Why couldn’t she explain exactly why? I see her point, but the astronomer sounded silly herself if you want to go down that route.
@samba9450
2 жыл бұрын
@UCxKCdrCfTJ8tL1KtXv3agZQ because the force of gravity has an equation that is dependent on distance u goddamn star clown
@user-pe2yx9kt4e
2 жыл бұрын
@@samba9450 if you’re talking to me, then her stating that she’s studied physics for many years doesn’t really have anything to do with that. And it should still have some effect (otherwise, the law does not apply to all situations, which should be the point within their framework, from my understanding and what they put off/communicate- does it cease to exist when it’s far away? Can we say that if it essentially doesn’t show up in certain instances that it has been disproven?). As was brought up, there does seem to be some sort of correlation between the moon and women’s menstrual cycles. And why focus simply upon gravitational forces? Physicists themselves can’t properly group gravity in with the other 3 fundamental forces. There’s so much they don’t know. I don’t really believe in astrology either btw, though I’m still open to the possibility of at least parts of it being legitimate... Though overall, I still think it’s unholy, or at least- it isn’t my place to judge someone completely off of their zodiac sign or whatever other metric they use- especially when doctors push for c-sections and/or induced births.
@josha1349
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-pe2yx9kt4e that astronomer seemed to be using logically flawed argumentation anyway. She brought up beetlejuice being 400-600 light years away and how it going supernova wouldn't effect them immediately. She's implying that somehow what the astrologers call "energy" is faster than the speed of light. If she studied physics for as long as she said she had, i would hope she would realize how dangerous that implication is and how it would undermine a lot of physics concepts that our world has been built upon today like relativity
@JimmyHey
2 жыл бұрын
@@josha1349 Where did you get the idea that she implied that this "energy" was faster than the speed of light? She used that argument solely to disprove how something very far away in space (a celestial body) literally can not affect you at a certain point in time (like your birth). She used a celestial body going supernova 650 lightyears away as a way to disprove that it can't affect you, since it would've happened a long, long time ago for us. She's saying it can't affect you, quite literally the opposite of what you're claiming she's saying. The astrologers would be claiming that it's travelling faster than the speed of light, since they're the ones claiming that the celestial bodies are affecting them. She's claiming it wouldn't. I feel like you're putting words in her mouth or just simply misunderstood what she said.
@Bigdaddyn744
2 жыл бұрын
Astrology works because they have a large list of qualities that 'could' apply to basically every person.
@dalaleela1453
2 жыл бұрын
Ur right
@kiraparson2746
2 жыл бұрын
You should look up your birth chart
@Bigdaddyn744
2 жыл бұрын
@@kiraparson2746 I shouldn't
@carlacista242
2 жыл бұрын
You know what, it doesn't work like that, I've seen people sh*tting on astrology too much in this comment section. If you don't know someone that actually studied astrology than do not talk about it like you know it so well, no you didn't find the trope. What you are talking about is the commercial and cheap astrology. Astrologers study for a reason, please be respectful (from person who is currently studying astrology)
@unratutox1543
2 жыл бұрын
@@carlacista242 studying astrology is like studying religion. If it makes you happy go for it but don't treat it as a real science and don't let it affectbthe way you treat others.
@dasani.like.the.water.
2 ай бұрын
The Barnum Effect: a common psychological phenomenon whereby individuals give high accuracy ratings to descriptions of their personality that supposedly are tailored specifically to them, yet which are in fact vague and general enough to apply to a wide range of people. Without the Barnum Effect, none of these astrologers would have a job
@eladmint
2 ай бұрын
Forer*
@cheesesteakphilly
2 жыл бұрын
Astronomers: “I’m mad because I slept in and was late for work.” Astrologers: “I’m mad because Mercury is in retrograde and Mars’ moon is in its 5th phase causing a shift in behavioural actions…but what can I say, I’m an Aquarius lol.”
@E_PHI_r
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think they know mars has moons
@vijaygk-zj6tl
Жыл бұрын
🤣
@teaz8974
Жыл бұрын
HHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH
@sahara_2648
Жыл бұрын
Lmao 😂
@C8H10N4O2-b
Жыл бұрын
LMFAOO
@aliyaissunshine
3 жыл бұрын
Ian’s response about being affected by celestial objects is so wholesome and sweet😭
@ianlauerastro
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! This comment has me smiling from ear to ear :)
@shibuya4189
3 жыл бұрын
@@ianlauerastro you had great takes Ian
@jizanthapus3099
3 жыл бұрын
@@ianlauerastro i love what you said, and i think you would like this poem by walt whitman! “When I heard the learn’d astronomer, When the proofs, the figures, were ranged in columns before me, When I was shown the charts and diagrams, to add, divide, and measure them, When I sitting heard the astronomer where he lectured with much applause in the lecture-room, How soon unaccountable I became tired and sick, Till rising and gliding out I wander’d off by myself, In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time, Look’d up in perfect silence at the stars.”
@yogibear3761
2 жыл бұрын
@@ianlauerastro nah kidding u were delusionate
@PresidentJeanAuguste
2 жыл бұрын
@@yogibear3761 Hold your horses m8, arent you going too far calling him "delusionate"?
@m.l3483
3 жыл бұрын
Astronomers: So are you saying that Astrology is more like Psychology? Astrologers: Yes Psychologists: Are we a joke to you?
@elizabethbauer5255
3 жыл бұрын
Masters in psychology here... that part made me mad pissed off not gonna lie. Psychology is definitely science backed and peer reviewed!
@lovewins1072
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@nodranb98
3 жыл бұрын
Both psychology and astrology are behavioral based practices. To claim they are the exact same is ridiculous but there is some connections which should be noted. They both track the complexity of human nature and I would agree that psychology is a science more so than astrology by far (professional astrologer here). Many astrologers also collect empirical data throughout their studies so it is on par with sciences but because it is all interpretation and so closely linked to spirituality it becomes invalidated by science.
@bradlytshigeng7350
3 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethbauer5255 yes, yes it is.
@asassyghostnamedcassie
3 жыл бұрын
I suggest we'd change it from psychologists to psychics, that seems more accurate🔮
@00mpa1oomp4
4 ай бұрын
This is like a call of duty bro taking on a marine
@jonathanwalsh8952
3 жыл бұрын
This resembled a compassionate parent trying to understand the ramblings of a young teenager that doesn't know themself.
@atafakheri8659
2 жыл бұрын
more like a con, saying whatever people like to hear to get paid
@titusrivers5059
2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣😂😂
@Dotexe245
2 жыл бұрын
except they were grown ass adults
@jialcantara4614
3 жыл бұрын
"she's so annoying, she's definitely an asparagus"
@MaybeLily1234
3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure she's not a Capri Sun?
@dandremusic6314
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@lianives3594
3 жыл бұрын
she must be a tauros pokemon im pretty sure
@TheOrangVegetal
3 жыл бұрын
Yall are wrong, dead giveaway she's a Bob Saggetarian
@deneikarose6655
3 жыл бұрын
@@lianives3594 she definitely not a tourist
@JP-sf6sg
2 жыл бұрын
Ian: I’m not an evolutionary biologist Nina: I’m a cancer rising Idk why this was just so funny to me 😂
@stackenitup87
2 жыл бұрын
Woooooo 🤣🤣🤣
@williamstallings4085
2 жыл бұрын
@@stackenitup87 ive watched that clip 20 times lmfaoooo
@PriyankaVerma-yh9cs
2 жыл бұрын
I see ian and nina i think vampire diaries 😂
@mohamed_is_him
2 жыл бұрын
Just the complete polar opposite
@Mia-ek1jp
2 жыл бұрын
Loll
@shay1626
3 жыл бұрын
as someone who is studying psychology and therapy, i was so mad when she called psychology a 'soft science' and equated it with astrology. astrology is a pseudoscience. psychology does have a long way to go compared to other sciences, but that's only because it's new. not because it's, in any way, similar to astrology. someone with their mind-set studying therapy and being a future therapist scares me.
@mihael2800
3 жыл бұрын
Psychology is extremlly useful, but it is a soft science since psychological hypothesis cant be empirically and 100% proven.
@Gunslinger246
3 жыл бұрын
Literally, one of the first things I was taught when I did Psychology at University was that Astrology was a pseudoscience since it was based on faith and didn't use the scientific method.
@iimdone
3 жыл бұрын
it is soft science though if you compare it to biology. it has a long way to go like you said, but i do agree its nothing like astrology. astrology is basically like religion lmao
@gacabrera9170
3 жыл бұрын
Psychology is considered a social science just like Economics, which is respectable
@Tirtougay
3 жыл бұрын
It’s is extremely ethically and practically challenging to isolate independent variables when it comes to human beings, which is something that must be done over and over again in studies for the science to become predictive, meaning psychology is still a soft science. There are still strong correlational findings, obtained through psychology by employing the scientific method, that can be shown over time to be extremely relevant for practical use. There will be exceptions, but it’s useful. Astrology on the other hand does not stand up to any stress test employed using the scientific method, often being beaten out by randomness in tests of predictive ability. I just wish astrologers stayed in their lane and didn’t improperly hijack scientific disciplines to try and legitimize their otherwise harmless hobby. When the astrologer dude brought thermodynamics into it I was unamused 🤪
@destinyluna7216
3 жыл бұрын
Just needed to clarify that psychology is a science that IS rooted in the scientific method. And ethical therapy modalities are ALL evidence-based. Social sciences use the scientific method as well smh
@saraantonangeli9283
3 жыл бұрын
And SHE is the one who studied Psychology! 😫
@elizabethbauer5255
3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Thank you!! That made me so mad. Masters in psychology here.
@HackersSun
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. And still, not the shrinks I went to didn't treat sh*t The pyschs asked me questions to "treat myself" Healthy gamer gg taught that pyschs don't do crawp
@andrew-qw5ez
3 жыл бұрын
they are considered soft sciences because it's near impossible to ethically conduct experiments on people and control for millions of variables but definitely agree that it shouldnt be lumped together with astrology
@fuck_anx
3 жыл бұрын
When you make a psychological test it works, when you make an astrology test it works (after 20 attempts) yeah these ppl are delusional
@breshaunbutler8904
3 жыл бұрын
Hearing someone say that psychology is a “soft science” and not rooted in the science method is bewildering to me being because there is absolutely no way that she knows about psychology if she made that statement. I’m getting my Masters in Clinical Psychology currently and plan to get my PhD. The amount of research and studies that are done to prove what we know is astronomical. Rant over 😅 I just got very triggered because I work my ass of to study certain topics and constantly have professors down my throat if I say/ write a statement that isn’t backed by citations.
@downwiththeclique7239
3 жыл бұрын
That part on the citations
@coolio4843
3 жыл бұрын
in my school psychology is in the college of liberal arts (a non science school) and not in the same school as chemistry, biology, physics, medicine. i am not sure why. i am just saying that a lot of people think psychology is up for interpretation because you can go to many different doctors and they not all diagnose you the same way.
@elizabethbauer5255
3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@gypsyhannie
3 жыл бұрын
HERE HERE. I'm a psych student as well and I was totally triggered by that too.
@priscieyango9798
3 жыл бұрын
Psychology follows the empirical method, so definitely natural sciences. The confusion is that it is a hybrid of art and science. Those who majored in the arts of psychology often do not get exposed to the sciences however those who major in science of psychology get the exposure to both. I think she's the former
@mish6937
4 ай бұрын
"Most scientists would say that I'm crazy" Yes, and rightly so
@amberv1340
Жыл бұрын
Super intelligent how the astronomer said yes, there is likely a connection between women's menstrual cycles and the moon, but that's a topic for an evolutionary biologist to address. Excellent critical thinking and appropriate professional awareness of one's field.
@staebs
Жыл бұрын
“The human menstrual cycle is only the about same length as the lunar month - it isn’t synchronised with a particular phase. One frequently cited study, published in the American Journal Of Obstetrics And Gynecology in 1980, found some evidence of synchronisation, but the effect was very weak. Of the sample of 312 women, 244 had cycles that were longer than 29 days or shorter than 27, and only 70 per cent of the rest actually started their period within two weeks of the full Moon. If locking our reproductive cycle to the lunar month was advantageous, you might expect other animals to do the same. Orangutans and possums have 28-day cycles, but our closest relatives, the chimpanzees, have 35-day cycles. Non-primate mammals have an oestrous cycle, which works differently to menstruation, but none of them synchronise their reproduction with the phases of the Moon.” source: sciencefocus “Studies suggest synchronizations in the lunar and menstrual cycles are down to random chance. It turns out, most evidence suggests that a person’s period links up with lunar cycles only at the rate you’d expect due to random chance. Early studies suggested a tenuous link. However, a 2013 retrospective study in the journal Endocrine Regulations that tracked 74 women over a year found no evidence for the synchronization of lunar phases to the menstrual cycle. The rise of period-tracking apps has enabled researchers to undertake even bigger studies. In 2019, researchers at the tracking app Clue analyzed 7.5 million cycles from 1.5 million app users. (This analysis did not go through peer review, a process whereby outside experts vet new research before it's published.) They found no evidence that menstrual cycles or periods were more likely to happen at any time in the lunar cycle.” source: livescience TLDR: there is no basis in the science, nor evolutionary evidence that the timeframes of menstruation and the lunar cycle happen to be vaguely similar. Humans like to make connections and a lot of the time periods of time in the natural world just happen to be similar due to random chance.
@TH-el1dr
Жыл бұрын
@@fallenangel_899i fear you grossly misunderstood what he meant when saying it correlates with the lunar month meaning the amount of time is the same, not that the lunar cycle and menstrual cycle occur at the same time
@erinwhipple4666
11 ай бұрын
But everyone’s menstrual cycle is different, so how could menstruation be in any way related to an unchanging lunar cycle…?
@fallenangel_899
11 ай бұрын
@@TH-el1dr There’s literally nothing to fear lol
@jasonhaven7170
9 ай бұрын
Evolutionary biology is not a thing.
@belletense3618
2 жыл бұрын
Psych Student here: psychology is a science and we use the scientific method - and yes we use it for treatment too! If it weren’t based in science it would be unethical to implicate said treatment on ppl. Don’t listen to her, psychology is a field in science, research, and health/medicine
@jeremyd2453
2 жыл бұрын
Hence the whole idea of evidence-based practice that's gained a lot of momentum nowadays. Maybe she was referring to non-standardised therapies like psychodynamic and stuff where you can't really have the same level of evidence in why they work and all that. But you can still see whether it's helped people and compare it to a placebo and control group, and then you technically still have scientific data... But I do get what she meant, cause like it happens a lot of times where you can just have different results depending on the people that participate in the study. And it's not like all the replicated studies get published so there's a lot of info we wouldn't have...
@ChechoColombia1
2 жыл бұрын
Im sorry but psych is not a science, replicability fails almost everytime in psych experiments.
@leorkoubi4626
2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to believe that, but so many foundational studies such as the Stanford prison study a were done with a terrible methodology, and now it's unethical to repeat them so we are basing our understanding off of faulty assumptions.
@soaptastesalrightiguess7932
2 жыл бұрын
@@leorkoubi4626Oh just wait until you find out what WWII Germany/Japan's 'scientific endeavors' looked like LOL Remember, the accepted model of the solar system used to be geocentrist. Science is what WE can interpret of the natural world. Science is NOT some miracle method of unveiling every possible quality of a subject with absolute objectivity and detail ... There are bound to be thousands upon thousands of 'errors' yet to come in our journey to understand the universe.
@Schemaboy
2 жыл бұрын
yesss
@domdubz7037
2 жыл бұрын
“I’m a cancer rising so I feel and know from personal experiences” - definitely a scientist.
@KuldeepDaftary
2 жыл бұрын
I think she did agree that she's not a scientist and she doesnt think astrology is a science.
@mohamed_is_him
2 жыл бұрын
"Feel" is the key word here
@cherryblush2312
2 жыл бұрын
I have read this one at 16:00 xd
@OasisMilo
4 ай бұрын
"I can only go off of planets like the moon or the sun" This guy is truly an expert
@abc6459
3 жыл бұрын
If I hear "energies" 1 more time I'm gonna scream
@kwesibruno
3 жыл бұрын
E...ah, fuck it.
@roberttramone9967
3 жыл бұрын
@@kwesibruno Challenge everything!
@aspebb
3 жыл бұрын
La energia
@terrancesilvermistbenjamin9864
3 жыл бұрын
Oof that’s some strong energies I feel coming your way. What’s your sign? Lol
@mariana457
3 жыл бұрын
Energy 😂👀
@jaspherdansalan635
2 жыл бұрын
If your psychologist/therapist thinks astrology is comparable to psychology? RUN! RUN VERY FAST!
@Lina_al_j
2 жыл бұрын
indeed! there's a chance they don't actually have any degree
@junietunes2148
Жыл бұрын
So, have you never heard of Carl Jung? He used astrology and it's archetypes to understand and describe human psychology. It is a tool used by many psychologists and therapists.
@benjamincote4309
Жыл бұрын
@@junietunes2148 And jung also believed in alchemy which anyone with a few neurons understands is ridiculous. Jung's expertise was never in astronomy and using him as an example is quite fallacious.
@junietunes2148
Жыл бұрын
@@benjamincote4309 Alchemy led to chemistry and astrology led to astronomy. Also I was responding to someone saying a phychologist/therapist who uses astrology as a tool was bad, when there are plenty of therapists that use it as a tool.
@Jokr0005
Жыл бұрын
@@junietunes2148 And he is a very controversial figure because of that. They don't even teach Jung anymore and no approved therapist uses those archetypes.
@HouseMDaddict
3 жыл бұрын
As a person with a psychology background astrology is not in the same vein. Astrology is closer to a religion than a science. It's based on beliefs and interpretations. Psychology is actually based on neuroscience and chemical imbalances which you measure and see.
@chaithusridhar7
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, bur psychology can't always be supported by science either... therapists often look at different people and diagnose and therapizine based on who they are and their stories and beliefs not just what their brain looks like
@alanisf5416
3 жыл бұрын
yes it surprised me that someone who studied psychology belives in astrology because you can explain most of personality traits by peoples backstory not a zodiac sign
@jinjunliu2401
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't the replication crisis also affect psychology? Isn't there a lot of p-hacking going on in this field? 👀
@ntr10me
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, could you clarify how Psychiatry fits into this as well if you get a moment? Cheers
@genevalillis6756
3 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what I was thinking. When I heard that comparison in the video, I had to pause.
@michaelwiltbank3619
4 ай бұрын
if bro says energy one more time I'm gonna lose it
@helenhelmi8129
3 жыл бұрын
I think that Mars representing aggression and Venus representing love is a matter of Greek mythology, not the universe. The planets in our solar system were named after Roman Gods by us humans, so I believe it’s evident that Mars representing aggression is quite arbitrary, because Mars could have been named Venus. I felt like astronomers supported their claims way better than astrologists did.
@Maydenne
3 жыл бұрын
I wish they had chosen a more practically spoken person for one of the astrologers. We don’t all talk as vaguely as they did.
@ebonyhardiman7519
3 жыл бұрын
We mentioned the mythology and archetypes in the video, unfornately it was edited out. But we definitely talked about that
@ebonyhardiman7519
3 жыл бұрын
@@Maydenne there were a lot of things edited out of the video because there was a lot that we did explain very practically and you can't tell from the final result which is frustrating
@kadijahmcintosh1055
3 жыл бұрын
Greeks were the first who studied the stars and stuff and later called it astrology
@synlion
3 жыл бұрын
@@ebonyhardiman7519 how did you tie them to astrology?
@oneill765
11 ай бұрын
This is like watching highschoolers debate their teachers
@milansvancara
7 ай бұрын
Or religious people debate biologists
@TheSixerFixer
5 ай бұрын
Or humming birds debate Stephen Hawking.
@elitehumpty3603
4 ай бұрын
@@milansvancara ...many biologists follow religion. I think you mean't EXTREMISTS debate biologists
@Vinny00754
4 ай бұрын
@@milansvancara I would have no issues with these people if they claimed astrology to be a belief system akin to a religion or ideology. It's when they start claiming "science" and putting the two on equal footing like astrology can point to anything it has done to better mankind outside of giving simpler people something to talk about.
@xenon3633
3 ай бұрын
@@elitehumpty3603 *Fundamentalists
@Acered.
2 жыл бұрын
"you know the basic planets: the sun, the moon, including Pluto"... As someone with a degree in Astrophysics, this broke me 🙃
@fluff975
Жыл бұрын
don't know why more people aren't pointing that moment out lol. literally none of those are actual planets
@renarouge5558
Жыл бұрын
I cried🤣🤣🤣
@DES.S.O.O
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 I thought that was weird too. Those are definitely stars, my dear. Pluto hasn’t even been a planet for over a decade.
@jacobrampage7814
Жыл бұрын
@@DES.S.O.Owhat you just said was just as bad. The moon and Pluto are stars now ?
@laras1072
Жыл бұрын
@@jacobrampage7814 Pluto isn't considered a planet anymore because it can't conduct it's own orbit, which planets should be capable of, pretty basic explanation tho
@trashpanda2219
2 жыл бұрын
I was really happy when Ashley brought up correlation vs causation, because it seemed to me that that was one of the largest divides between the groups.
@scrollreader7355
2 жыл бұрын
Sofia at one point sounded like she was starting to explain confirmation bias too. I don't know if they just kinda cut out some of that or if she actually didn't go all the way with it but I do wish she'd carried that point as far as I think it could have gone in the video because correlation vs causation and confirmation bias are probably the single two biggest perpetrators of pseudoscience.
@superflashyariel3835
2 жыл бұрын
I was happy about that too. People seem to forget that correlation does NOT equal causation.
@deboramdegella2992
3 жыл бұрын
The patience to have this conversation is above me... Respect to these astronomers. 🙏🏾
@znull3356
3 жыл бұрын
I really have no idea how they stayed so composed. Patience of saints.
@ballin1006
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@rottworks
2 жыл бұрын
I know I couldn't. I even had to pause the video multiple times. 😂
@oak3785
3 жыл бұрын
when he said "when the moon is far it's less waves" and the astronomer was like "ehhhhh" LMAOO i remember doing the moon's gravitational forces in classical mechanics and being surprised that being far also increases waves and not decrease them
@andreworbs
3 жыл бұрын
One peice.
@bradlytshigeng7350
3 жыл бұрын
Heart pirates! Let's go!!!
@oak3785
3 жыл бұрын
@@bradlytshigeng7350 ROOM
@sciencecompliance235
4 ай бұрын
The moon being further away would make for smaller tidal changes, but the tides depend on both the Moon AND the Sun and also where on Earth you are relative to the positions of these objects.
@thegdin
2 жыл бұрын
The body language on the astronomers is priceless. I so understand their internal frustration
@graceabyyy
Жыл бұрын
😂
@karinacampos6915
Жыл бұрын
True patience because I could never 😂😂
@morbillionaire2785
Жыл бұрын
Hear me out People in this video are so packed up This is what i notice😆
@smurphodude
Жыл бұрын
i would love to see the astrologers try to answer why twins with the exact same birth time aren’t the same
@Poisonivy8
Жыл бұрын
Or conjoined twins lol
@theirelandbelle
Жыл бұрын
confused about this. obviously twins aren’t born at the same time…?
@smurphodude
Жыл бұрын
@@theirelandbelle yeah i worded that a bit poorly, my bad ! but i mean with a one minute gap, for example which wouldn’t affect birth charts
@avivastudios2311
Жыл бұрын
What's interesting is that twins that are separated at birth are more alike than twins that live together. It all has to do with experience.
@doggydog3
Жыл бұрын
epigenetics
@axelservellon8157
2 ай бұрын
Astronomers = People with Jobs and responsibility Astrologist = That unemployed friend on a Tuesday
@yana8353
3 жыл бұрын
Nina is the girl who makes astrology her whole personality.
@tropicalt506
3 жыл бұрын
Not true 💀
@chloefaith3399
3 жыл бұрын
i mean of course it’ll seem that way, the video is about her being an astrologist
@giodalle
3 жыл бұрын
well that's her job LOL
@leulgetachew696
3 жыл бұрын
@@giodalle if your job is your personality, I doubt you have any friends. Or they're just tolerating you.
@kaylee5888
3 жыл бұрын
or maybe she’s just passionate about it?
@liv482
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a conversation between astrologists and psychologists would have helpful and productive for the discussion. For example, psychologists (or even an evolutionary biologist) would be able to explain all the research that have been done on nature vs nurture, as well as the science behind bias studies such as hindsight bias and people's tendency to find patterns in random events. Psychologists ARE a REAL SCIENCE by the way. Absolutely infuriating that they said otherwise.
@nickgarcia6572
2 жыл бұрын
YES! I couldn't help but noticing how the astrologers are affected SO much by confirmation bias, hindsight bias, and so on. They really all three need to take some Psych classes. For all they think they understand about human psychology... yeah. They have no clue what it actually is.
@th-ck9vl
2 жыл бұрын
My biology teacher warned me away from evolutionary psychology so idk. He said most of it is conjecture?
@katringlass2140
2 жыл бұрын
psychology is not science, it is just looking at behavior and seeing patterns and using these to heal people‘s minds. the chemical imbalance theory has been debunked long ago, so psychology really hasn‘t anything to do with science, but with observation of behavior. tell me one psychological practice that is scientific and not behavioral and hasn‘t been banned cos it‘s cruel?
@xh56758
2 жыл бұрын
@@katringlass2140 Lol , all modern psychology is done using a empirical method compatible with scientific method. Chemical imbalance theory was created in the 1950's 😂 .
@voyance4elle
2 жыл бұрын
yay for that
@jameskirk8274
3 жыл бұрын
“So you just get to choose?” “Well… it’s based of really resonates with you” So yeah, you just get to choose lmao
@bellaancheta5407
3 жыл бұрын
Right lmaooo
@sumerurose8586
3 жыл бұрын
not how it works but it's not something you could explain or understand from the outside you'd have to get into it yourself intuition is a feeling most people dont know much about
@jameskirk8274
3 жыл бұрын
@@sumerurose8586 uh… if they were all a real science then they would be equally true. If it’s based off of feeling, it’s literally a choice. Like “hmmm, idk which car to choose. I’m gonna pick this one”
@sumerurose8586
3 жыл бұрын
@@jameskirk8274 i didnt say its a science... and like i said you either understand or you don't but leading a life without intuition or gut feeling and only facts and logic sounds a bit sad to me
@jameskirk8274
3 жыл бұрын
@@sumerurose8586 but he was defending it as a science. I get that you’re not, but his reasoning that he uses math and it’s therefore science and as repeatably true as science falls apart immediately when he said you have to find what “resonates” with you; a choice.
@TyIerTheCreatorLover
6 ай бұрын
I find it so funny how they introduce themselves astronomers “literally has zero proof” and astrologers are like “ the crystal energy of Jupiter’s is making me think about spaghetti for my own safety”
@Cshaw_13
4 ай бұрын
Lmao 😂😂😂
@johnharmon536
2 жыл бұрын
Astrology: "Here is what your star chart says" Me: "But none of that applies to me" Astrology: "Well, it COULD be interpreted COMPLETELY differently" Sooo.... what's the value then?
@amalatinaandrews6700
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that I see no replies to this shows me how true this statement is
@retroronny6627
2 жыл бұрын
so true
@BigBossGR
2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that I don't know how these people are even astrologers. I believe in astrology only because it has been accurate without having to make interpretations or assumptions. When you read a natal chart carefully and consider every aspect of it, the result has to be accurate and specific to you and only you. I disagree with everything these people said in the video.
@BigBossGR
2 жыл бұрын
@Mike hey I understand where you're coming from. However I've had my whole life described like an open book by astrologers. From my relationship with my parents(seperate for my mom and dad) as a child as a teenager and an adult, to my individual specific struggles of each age, details about my romantic interests, work etc. They knew I had a brother and not a sister and also knew how my relationship was at different points of my life as well. It was so specific that I refused to listen what was going to happen in my future because I'd like to think that I have some control over my life even though it's clear that my whole life has been predetermined
@ar433new6
2 жыл бұрын
its more like certain energies expressed in different ways i cant really explain much without getting into nuances that u dont know about astrology
@marks.5207
3 жыл бұрын
“So, what’s your degree-I’m sorry, what’s your definition of science?” Freudian slip, much? 😂
@Random-sk6hm
3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@bobba1968
3 жыл бұрын
Timestamp? 🗿✨
@marks.5207
3 жыл бұрын
@@bobba1968 7:33
@realsmollbean
3 жыл бұрын
@@bobba1968 7:33
@realsmollbean
3 жыл бұрын
@@marks.5207 Dang how were u 58 seconds before me
@omnium_gatherum
3 жыл бұрын
"I'm not an evolutionary biologist so I don't know-" "Sure sure sure... I'm a cancer riiising..."
@JabranImran
3 жыл бұрын
11:48 Its authentic
@omnium_gatherum
3 жыл бұрын
@@JabranImran 🤣🤣
@myprettygirl91
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭
@omnium_gatherum
3 жыл бұрын
@@myprettygirl91 😂😂 watched that like "here we gooo 🙄"
@maria-xq8yw
3 жыл бұрын
this part made me laugh so damn hard
@jonathanhenderson9422
3 жыл бұрын
Astrologer: "Can I ask what makes you say that with such certainty?" Astronomer: "Because I do physics and I know how the force of gravity works." :D
@ikkajchan
3 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy though because the more you learn about gravity, the less we actually know.
@michaelxchi
3 жыл бұрын
@@ikkajchan what have you said ?
@dairygecko
3 жыл бұрын
@@ikkajchan and still, makes more sense
@m.l3483
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelxchi it means the more you study something in-depth, the more you realize there is yet to be known
@boots1097
3 жыл бұрын
also like.... what if there's something effecting us from the planets that isn't necessarily just gravity?
@jasonwalon5470
2 ай бұрын
I have done a bachelor's in physics and currently working as an AI researcher. I really tried watching this video to understand both views but I just couldn't bear the stupidity. This would actually be torture to go through.
@bribhoney
3 жыл бұрын
I like how the Astronomers, the scientist are trying to find nice words to replace the words they really want to say about something the Astrologist is describing or saying.
@SofiaCavalcante
2 жыл бұрын
LOL Sofia is fighting SO HARD
@littlethings3923
3 жыл бұрын
How do everyone on this show comes with so much patience? The amount of time I rolled my eyes in this episode is in 100s.. Where do you find this calm people?
@CleoraAleise
3 жыл бұрын
What is there to be upset about? Someone will always have a difference in opinion.
@mariosmatzoros3553
3 жыл бұрын
@@CleoraAleise Except for the fact that one of the sides is based on facts and the other is based on ludicrous made up things and opinions.
@luckyduck_.
3 жыл бұрын
@@mariosmatzoros3553 in your opinion
@jjordynnn8740
3 жыл бұрын
@@luckyduck_. no its not an opinion its a fact. One is made up of literal science and proof the other is backed by opinions thoughts and feelings.
@luckyduck_.
3 жыл бұрын
@@jjordynnn8740 again in your opinion
@dioggo3532
2 жыл бұрын
As much as I disagree with astrology, but kudos to the astrologists for having a polite debate unlike the other middle ground videos
@ballin1006
2 жыл бұрын
Ikr just watch the flat earth vid
@archiviste209
2 жыл бұрын
@@ballin1006 LMAO EXACTLY IM SO GLAD THEY DIDNT BLATANTLY DISRESPECT THE ASTRONOMERS EVEN THOUGH THEY STRONGLY BELIEVED IN THEIR BELIEFS 😭 the flat earthers were so bad
@kissme1518
2 жыл бұрын
They get kudos for not being raving children gotcha.
@firstylasty9417
2 жыл бұрын
I meeean. Also, kudos to the astronomers for not further SLAYING the astrologists into oblivion.
@danielshawn6318
2 жыл бұрын
@@archiviste209 being called uneducated after yrs of physics by dan the water guy🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Darnactheduck
8 ай бұрын
So it's feelings vs facts debate?
@jupiterfox7683
8 ай бұрын
@tygonysusThe astrologists can absolutely be wrong if they claim being anything other than a scam
@liamchapman6889
Жыл бұрын
My favourite episodes of Middle Ground are the ones where you just annoy scientists for 30 minutes
@scrappybastard
Жыл бұрын
This made me choke laughing
@wildhorses1339
6 ай бұрын
😂facts
@cpisarek4284
2 жыл бұрын
As someone in a scientific field, this made me believe in astrology even less than I already did. Science isn't really up for interpretation unless a study makes an inaccurate causal-effect relationship or the study itself is faulty. When something becomes highly interpretative, and gets even "more nuanced" the deeper you get into it, you can never really be wrong. The one woman even said herself that if her client says she's wrong, she basically just finds a different way to interpret her reading so that it's correct. That's a completely faulty line of logic.
@nzreprezenta
2 жыл бұрын
Heres a question was science here before astrology thats an answer id like to know ?
@quantumpolariton122
2 жыл бұрын
Throw all possibilities in the hope that one is correct. If their process was so accurate, maybe they would buy a lottery ticket, and narrow the possibilities but don't think any of them are millinares at the moment.
@bobbyboo22_
2 жыл бұрын
@@nzreprezenta what is astrology? Someone had to make it up The stars and planets are not astrology but they are involved in the belief
@confidential303
2 жыл бұрын
Christa don't play the representative of the science field, just be lucky through hard work you may have your degree, but you really sound like the average mainstream scientist who is unaware of other things beyond your senses and imagination.
@moxshimi2616
2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyboo22_ idk I’m not an astrology nut but I believe it Originated in Africa and has been around for thousands of years then ppl went and saw those beliefs spreading it around to western societies and the entire world. ( I explained that really bad)
@Kceam
3 жыл бұрын
Its always a little frustrating when I tell people I am studying Astronomy, and they are like: Oh yeah I'm totally into zodiac signs...
@jocylinbinkier4607
3 жыл бұрын
same kinda deal for me when i told people I was studying archaeology and they then proceeded to ask me about dinosaurs lmaooo
@madisonj5136
3 жыл бұрын
Why not, they are having fun. You can tell you are no fun
@svonjai2169
3 жыл бұрын
@@jocylinbinkier4607 actually same but other way around! I study palaeontology and people always think I’m a archaeologists xD
@aurelien_le_oreo
4 ай бұрын
"I can only go off of planets that are like in orbit like THE MOON THE SUN". Bro skipped science class since birth
@Shinntoku
2 жыл бұрын
Laughing really hard at the one woman who just openly admits to cold reading her clients and didn't even realize
@hariharannatarajan7208
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ThatisnotHair
Жыл бұрын
" That is not what I actually meant "
@MsDubati
Жыл бұрын
Literally 😂
@Standleyyyyhandyy
Жыл бұрын
I watched the full video and must have zoned out when that happened. Can you please let me know when it happened? Nevermind I found it lol.
@babypinhead7656
Жыл бұрын
Facts 😂😂😂
@enchyxxx
2 жыл бұрын
The fact the astronomers managed to keep a straight face listening to this nonsense... I admire them.
@OHOE1
2 жыл бұрын
I see burger star, this means your child is gonna become obese
@Turnpost2552
2 жыл бұрын
@@OHOE1 lol
@joaop4585
2 жыл бұрын
@@OHOE1 MF what? LMAO
@Howl-0
2 жыл бұрын
They’re being real nice on camera
@wassup2001
2 жыл бұрын
@@OHOE1 lmao 💀
@Crocsvevo
3 жыл бұрын
Look I’m not gonna lie that even as a STEM major I think that astrology is so much fun (although I’m more into the Enneagram) but people that are super into astrology can be too much for me. I had a close friend that treated me badly and literally blamed everything she did on the fact that she was a Leo and whenever I tried to sit her down and talk to her about why what she did hurt me and that I didn’t want her to do it anymore, she told me “I know your Virgo moon makes you feel like you have to criticize me but i don’t appreciate you bossing me around and telling me what I can and can’t do.” LIKE ???? LMAO??? Yeah we stopped being friends pretty much immediately after that because what the fuck
@Auvisome
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah who wouldn't love objectifying people's personalities and experiences into goofy lil categories, and shifting the goalpost so far to make it seem like you got a grasp on some mystic power.
@cbicommentbureauofinternet5290
3 жыл бұрын
Felt sorry for your experience
@jennifersmith2526
3 жыл бұрын
I love astrology but I have a scorpio brother that is just like this
@shahjmir
3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA I READ THIS AND GAGGEED. THOSE PEOPLE ARE NUTS BRO! Your actions have nothing to do with when you were born.
@Banana-eb8qr
3 жыл бұрын
This is why this never made sense to me. I'm a leo too, yet im so far away from what a "leo" is like. I hope your close friend is now you ex close friend because she seems really toxic. yikes.
@kavesannaidoo4421
3 жыл бұрын
He said he isn't an evolutionary biologist and she answers "I'm a cancer rising" 😭😭😭😭
@donnoel1568
3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@inspiredglue2056
3 ай бұрын
If you judge someone off of their zodiac sign, then that is just totally ridiculous.
@josss_ie8083
3 жыл бұрын
I wish the question was "Is astrology real?" instead of "is it a science?"
@yehnayz
3 жыл бұрын
fr like i think 90% of astrologers and people who like or are into astrology know its not a science, bc u cant prove it- but you could say same thing with “time” … we don’t REALLY know if its 12:52pm rn
@pnut3844able
3 жыл бұрын
They're snowflakes, they don't wanna "hurt their feelings."
@saubhagyatandon4787
3 жыл бұрын
@@yehnayz what do u mean we don't REALLY know the time, u do realise that is an construct, right? We ourselves divided the day in 24 parts called hours, they could have easily just been any other number without it changing anything
@compa6251
3 жыл бұрын
@@pnut3844able unironically saying "snowflake" is like still making "i identify as an attack helicopter" jokes in 2021. It's not 2014, grow up
@pnut3844able
3 жыл бұрын
@@compa6251 cool story bro. No one cares.
@KreeZafi
3 жыл бұрын
The convenience of an "interpretive" practice is that you can bend and twist things until they fit. Combine that with confirmation bias and Barnum statements, then boom, those who wish to believe it are convinced.
@katybee3891
3 жыл бұрын
If you’re a doctor and someone has a symptom it can have multiple causes and the doctor then needs to find out what caused the symptom by going through the possibilities. You wouldn’t question his competence because he can’t tell immediately what the issue is.
@KreeZafi
3 жыл бұрын
@rxflex! Memento mori, friend 💀
@KreeZafi
3 жыл бұрын
@@katybee3891 That's entirely different though. Most scientists don't immediately know the answer, they have to formulate hypothesis and perform experiments and tests, adjust their hypothesis and re-test them, until finally arriving at a conclusion. That's not "interpretive" in the way astrology is.
@BroudbrunMusicMerge
3 жыл бұрын
@@katybee3891 The difference is that a science tries to work its way down to one objective truth through trial and deduction. Astrology and psychics and the like use basic manipulation to make the vague chaos of everyday life _feel_ organized and meaningful. There's no actual science involved with astrology and psychics and the like, only well-documented social manipulation
@elijahgavin6706
3 жыл бұрын
Moving the goalposts like a 3000 lb goalie
@yehnayz
3 жыл бұрын
as someone whos VERY into astrology, i dont think its a science
@stinkygremlin267
3 жыл бұрын
There's sources saying it's a pseudoscience the same thing as the isfp personality tests
@yehnayz
3 жыл бұрын
@@stinkygremlin267 yeah i agree it could be a pseudoscience, it said that in my research psychology textbook but id never go as far to say its a full on science
@enchantedlakes-2150
3 жыл бұрын
@@stinkygremlin267 Ok,,, MBTI is also a pseudoscience but it's not comparable to astrology at all lol
@stinkygremlin267
3 жыл бұрын
@@enchantedlakes-2150 idk what mbti is
@yehnayz
3 жыл бұрын
@@stinkygremlin267 lmao mbti is the myers briggs personality test, it gives you a set of letters that can reveal your personality, it strictly boxes the population into 16 categories-unlike astrology which has seemingly infinite boxes because the chances of you having the same birth chart as someone else is extremely rare, and even if you did yall probably were raised by people who had different birth charts and astrologist do take into account the whole nature vs nurture thing, with all that being said-IFSP = your personality according to the myers briggs test
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