End these stupid regulations that prohibit small affordable houses.
@SoGoodContent
21 күн бұрын
Tokyo solved their housing crisis by doing something like this. The only issue is that without dealing with root causes of homelessness and drug abuse, these small house blocks will turn into dens of stable crime. Not to say it's a bad idea or even that I'm implicitly right, just that more needs to be done.
@ArloPignotti
21 күн бұрын
@@SoGoodContent That's what happens when they allow small homes in some kind of small house zone. True deregulation would mean anyone can build a small home in any neighborhood as long as it's on their own property. Years ago I tried to do this for several people struggling to pay property taxes on their "normal" sized homes here in Austin. There are plots of land in all kinds of neighborhoods, but just no legal route to build anything smaller than a 3-bed 2-bath on them.
@benchoflemons398
21 күн бұрын
End zoning
@geraldbennett7035
21 күн бұрын
end progressivism you mean.
@rlittlefield2691
21 күн бұрын
Boom you are so right.
@commonsense.1014
15 күн бұрын
You know. Other countries have laws that prohibit companies from owning homes, and people from owning more than two. Reminder. We dont actually have a housing shortage, we have an affordability shortage.
@tjones44236
15 күн бұрын
So punish landlords in the hopes of erasing home equity across the board to help people who literally crap on city streets. Got it.
@thespclflash456
15 күн бұрын
@tjones44236 Punish? You mean force the people hoarding shelter, one of the three human necessities, for passive income to set aside their greed for societal well being?
@wgnwaveguide275
15 күн бұрын
No just stop corporations & investment groups from buying up homes. Also ban foreign entities ( not individuals) from buying up housing. There are a lot of empty houses but when big money buys up everything they can it causes prices to go up. Because of demand. Making lower class & even middle class people from. Being able to buy.
@stephenkolostyak4087
15 күн бұрын
@@tjones44236 companies aren't landlords.
@lewis123417
15 күн бұрын
As someone who lives in a cramped European country, it's a massive sudden increase in population combined with no housebuilding in the last 40 years
@ParrotPentester
15 күн бұрын
"If you're homeless, just buy a house" mentality government.
@keithmasavage6758
15 күн бұрын
Yes, get a job and get an apartment. Save and if Democrats are NOT elected, then buy a house. Stop blaming lazy people problems on everyone else.
@ParrotPentester
15 күн бұрын
@@keithmasavage6758 To get a job you need a house/apartment address, to get a house/apartment address you need to open a bank, to open a bank account, you need a house/apartment address. See the paradox? Democrats and Republicans have nothing to do with this because neither will solve the actual problems of this government. Not only that but the job market is insanely tight, what makes you think not being able to land a job after applying for 15 jobs a day and going to 7 interviews a day is laziness? This is a different decade now grandpa, landing a job isn't as easy as asking for it.
@ImARealCat
15 күн бұрын
@keithmasavage6758 you do know that a lot of homeless people have jobs, right? Would you hire someone who looks homeless? Can they keep up with work constraints if they don't have a means of transportation or way to digitally complete their work? Or you have a job but because you dared to get sick with something like cancer they garner your wages to pay back your debt. And depending where you live there's no way to make enough to afford an apartment. My 500 sqft apartment is almost $2000 a month. Most people are one bad day away from being homeless.
@rousinrabble
15 күн бұрын
Or go to a shelter and get your crap together.
@Stop_It_Just_Stop
15 күн бұрын
@@keithmasavage6758 have you done ANY research into WHY people are homeless? Have you listen to any one of their stories? Are the homeless veterans “lazy”. Have an ounce of empathy and try to obtain more than 2 working brain cells 🙄
@SKBottom
18 күн бұрын
When you push people to the point where they feel like they have nothing to lose, do not be surprised when they start to act like it.
@EVBud69
13 күн бұрын
Who is pushing who? Sometimes people make the choice to live that way and others should not be expected to pay for their choices. You going to college is a choice and I should not be made to pay for your loans to get a degree in homeless encampments studies.
@cHAOs9
13 күн бұрын
@@EVBud69 why do you feel like you have to pay for homeless people? That's the opposite. They aren't taking anything from you. Why aren't you worried about corporate welfare, bailouts, subsidised industries, tax loopholes, $50,000 military toilet seats, etc etc? 99.9% of "your money" in taxes go to these other wasted things. Homeless people aren't costing you ANYTHING. You just don't like being reminded that others are suffering while you are lucky. You could have been born in an unloving family with a brain injury. How would you feel if you were EXHAUSTED and hungry and just trying to get any sleep you could and EVERY TIME a cop woke you up and made you pack everything you own and move? Over and over. Every night, every day?
@davidreinker5600
13 күн бұрын
@@cHAOs9 It's not about how people feel. It's about how people are conducting their lives. Being homeless is a symptom of the unwillingness or inability to conduct one's life properly. Many homeless reject the kind of help that will get them out of homelessness, either because they just want drugs, they're mentally ill, they make too many bad decisions, or they just want to live that way. The prohibition of camping or living on public property is perfectly legitimate. The state has an interest in maintaining clean, safe streets. We're not helping anyone by allowing them to live on public places with all their belongings and garbage strewn about.
@brendastanley4546
13 күн бұрын
@brendastanley4546
13 күн бұрын
@jamesmooney8933
18 күн бұрын
This is going to be a bigger problem, since housing is becoming too expensive. Hedge funds like Black Rock are buying up housing, and increasing the prices through predatory business practices
@flyoverkid55
18 күн бұрын
@@jamesmooney8933 Have you looked at average home prices around the nation? It's not just about the west coast. Not everyone can swing 500k for a 3 bedroom house, so they have to live where their income can support a comfortable lifestyle.
@ianbelletti6241
18 күн бұрын
It will self correct to some degree at some point when it costs them more to keep the properties at their overpriced price points than what rental income is actually coming in. The bubble needs to burst which means things will naturally get worse before they get better.
@jamesmooney8933
18 күн бұрын
@@ianbelletti6241 That would be true, but there is an inbalance in the housing market. A family home buyer can't compare with an LLC. When a LLC can't sell a house, then he rents it out. When a single family home buyer, they can rent it out but has to hire a realtor. It can be very costly. You are right the market will take it's course, then the Hedge Funds will become a renter. The U.S. will become a renter nation.
@aownbey609
18 күн бұрын
@ianbelletti6241 he's right though so long as these corporate entities like black rock are able to buy pre-built houses and tax payer funded bail outs if they lose money were all screwed
@thebookwasbetter3650
18 күн бұрын
Hedge funds buying houses is a symptom of the problem, not the cause. Govt making it hard to build is the cause. California recently exempted the state capitol renovation from envir regs when it was determined that it would be virtually impossible to do with them in place.
@GregItUp
15 күн бұрын
It's crazy that fining the homeless isn't considered "unreasonable."
@jorm2528
12 күн бұрын
Weird. Isn't it. Maybe people should give up supporting weird. And chose things NOT weird.
@PinBiohazard
11 күн бұрын
It's like "Here is a $500 fine for being homeless", like what they going to pay that with? A sock with a hole in it? If they had $500 don't you think they would not be sleeping on the streets?
@XavianBrightly
11 күн бұрын
It's neither cruel nor unusual to fine someone for thinking they can just camp wherever they want. It's not a "fine for being homeless" any more than a pushiment for walking in the middle of the highway is a for being carless.
@hcn6708
10 күн бұрын
“You can’t afford housing? Well, I’ll make sure you can’t afford even harder!”
@NickTheCodeMechanic
6 күн бұрын
@@PinBiohazard "If they had $500 don't you think they would not be sleeping on the streets?" I know I've heard that most 'homeless' are just panhandlers by choice, and prefer to live on the streets instead of getting a job and getting clean. Stop giving them money. You're contributing to the problem. Only a small percentage of them actually need help, but they are suffocated by competing panhandlers (yup, that's a thing).
@Зол.Э
18 күн бұрын
"We will forbid starvation, not solve hunger."
@quistador7
17 күн бұрын
There is beds and food available. But you have to be sober. These people don't want the help. They want to live on the streets and be high. Can't help them
@cjthebeesknees
17 күн бұрын
Then lease out the newly incarcerated to private companies on contracts paying em pennies on the dollar and guarantee massive returns to shareholders and board members.
@PenTheMighty
17 күн бұрын
This is more like forbidding theft of food because you refuse to go to food banks. If a city doesn't have space, it's time to move, not squat. Why move to the most expensive cities in the US, only to take over public property held in commons to extort the taxpayers for free housing? You are not moral for supporting theft that you enabled in the first place.
@iamjames8403
17 күн бұрын
Where have I heard this before 🧐🤔
@desperadodeluxe2292
16 күн бұрын
@@Зол.Э let them eat cake Also who the hell is going to be paying taxes it's like there's only gov jobs
@-41337
21 күн бұрын
Homeless camps can be made a crime, if restrictive zoning laws and rent control can also be a crime.
@UKsystems
17 күн бұрын
Both of these you can make an application to have it changed
@SandfordSmythe
17 күн бұрын
@-41337 So, lock them up. For how long?
@arcguardian
16 күн бұрын
Can
@Zero-s7k
16 күн бұрын
Yes literally make homelessness a crime, so you can legal house the homeless in jails and give the same access to healthcare, education, job training, and rehabilitation same rights actual criminals has access to but just let have an open person meaning they can work and put them on some type of drug testing/monitor program. Damn, I just solved homelessness.
@LoveableLincoln32
16 күн бұрын
@@SandfordSmythe30 days
@wastedspam385
15 күн бұрын
State government should penalize cities for having homelessness. You'd be amazed how fast they'll find a solution.
@joelockard7174
14 күн бұрын
They would go for the quickest solution...meaning incarceration or removal and relocation to outside of the city. So the solution wouldn't be good at all.
@mitchellbarton7915
13 күн бұрын
They'd likely just try to send em out elsewhere because they don't care about actually fixing the issues that cause people to become homeless in the first place.
@dgronzega8073
13 күн бұрын
Solution? Define the cause. Perhaps?
@Noename-qx5rn
11 күн бұрын
@@dgronzega8073 drugs
@Randy-qg6rw
11 күн бұрын
Great solution for the problems government causes. Just incarcerate your way out of the problem and then explore what else we can incarcerate people for.
@DugrozReports
21 күн бұрын
Remember, the job of the Supreme Court is not to decide if a law is “good“ or not, their job is to decide only if it is constitutional or not. If you simply dislike the ordinance, take that up with the local elected government.
@wlonsdale1
21 күн бұрын
True, but the ordinance cannot be unconstitutional.
@gothpunkboy89
20 күн бұрын
And what happens to people who are homeless and can't pay the fines?
@geraldbennett7035
20 күн бұрын
Thats right. The court isnt and must not be in the role of giving all parties a little something.
@bigdummy8414
20 күн бұрын
@@gothpunkboy89Jail
@anthonyparisi2386
20 күн бұрын
So it's constitutional for the united states to have a king then alr
@bruhmoment3741
21 күн бұрын
Dealing with the homeless? Nah. Scurry out of here, you can’t be homeless around here no more.
@sot8343
21 күн бұрын
If the homeless didn't block public use sidewalks and streets and didn't leave trash for the city to clean up they wouldn't be so much of a problem.
@Bigdogspyke
21 күн бұрын
@@sot8343yeah imagine if we had affordable housing
@christiangrosjean2980
21 күн бұрын
@@Bigdogspyketwo things can be true at once. Allowing more building and therefore reducing housing prices would be the correct way to address the issue but also so long as public property exists it should be treated like private property.
@Bigdogspyke
21 күн бұрын
@@christiangrosjean2980 so you don’t want public property to exist?
@sot8343
21 күн бұрын
@@Bigdogspyke even if they had a permanent residence, that still doesn't change the fact that the majority are unemployable. They couldn't afford housing even if it was dirt cheap. Freeloading is a lifestyle. You build it and they will come. You enable it and it will thrive.
@georgeelliott6877
15 күн бұрын
The government that overspent and is causing this is creating cruel and unusual punishments on the homeless etc. in the first place.
@joeb578
14 күн бұрын
And allowing corporations to buy up all the property, and they'll pay congress to keep allowing it it, and you'll keep buying blackrock, vanguard, or whatever stock to keep your ira portfolio, fast track downward spiral
@zylpher
18 күн бұрын
tf is the point of fining them they can't pay it anyways lmao
@muskepticsometimes9133
15 күн бұрын
Yup need jail
@welcometorenland
15 күн бұрын
The city does it to get money. They don't care if it's the person's money, or the tax payers
@SCTproductionsJ5
15 күн бұрын
because they can escalate to other punishments if fines aren't paid. (in otherwords, it's better to give them a chance than sending them straight to jail)
@DaleDenton-ov5pg
15 күн бұрын
@@welcometorenlandHow would it be the tax payers giving money if the homeless person is the one thats fined?
@ingrid3291
15 күн бұрын
@DaleDenton-ov5pg because of they don't pay it they could face jail time which tax payers fund
@machinegunrilla8629
21 күн бұрын
I think we should ban government deficit spending.
@BWolf00
21 күн бұрын
How about banning illegal immigration while we have an epidemic of homelessness.
@BWolf00
20 күн бұрын
Oops it's already "banned".
@machinegunrilla8629
20 күн бұрын
@@BWolf00 where at?
@BWolf00
20 күн бұрын
@@machinegunrilla8629 LOL...seems UT keeps blocking me.
@BWolf00
20 күн бұрын
@@machinegunrilla8629 Illegal
@jamesatccrkba8053
15 күн бұрын
More to the point, SCOTUS ruled that the issue of homelessness is far too complex to be relegated to a single court of law. Moreover, it stated that homelessness is not the domain of the courts but of the states and that the problem must be dealt with by the legislature rather than unilaterally at the federal level by the courts.
@tailsoluv
16 сағат бұрын
That's because SCOTUS would rather decide that the President is a king and can't be prosecuted for criminal actions if they're committed as an official Act of the President. They are more than happy to throw this back as a state's right thing because it doesn't help or hinder Trump in any way.
@Redwood_redrock
21 күн бұрын
officers can completely pass a guy pissing in the street and give me a ticket for jaywalking😂
@jimh598
21 күн бұрын
That's because you have the money to pay the fine
@FrameDrumAndFlute
20 күн бұрын
An oddly specific example
@Michael-uc2pn
19 күн бұрын
To be fair, they spent a lot of money to install crosswalks everywhere, most cities have a distinct lack of public restrooms. One of my biggest gripes with inner cities, basically have to buy something to get a restroom key.
@yienasalin3842
19 күн бұрын
@@jimh598the same reason I have to pay for all the bureaucracy and duplication of bureaucracy building a house (building permits, zoning permits, septic evaluation, septic approval I dig etc)and homeless don't.
@lubu4u312
19 күн бұрын
@@Michael-uc2pn Progressive polices are very bizzare. here in NYC at least, people are realizing they can break the rules if they are poor or rich enough. the rest of the 95% of people foot the bill and languish. For example, they are now charging the working/middle class a commuter toll for just driving around in mahattan. It will cost 20$ when driving through certain lights at certain times. In the mean time they agitate and divide the voting block by appealing to RACE, GENDER, and RELIGION - an evil bunch.
@patrickkinnear8625
18 күн бұрын
Everyone needs to stop looking to the Supreme Court to make sweeping determinations to solve every issue within the United States. Their job is to interpret and apply constitutional law. You can't just twist words around and say "the Supreme Court not interpreting a cities homeless ordinance laws as cruel and unusual punishment is wrong" just because you want to see this problem solved. If they had the broad powers to determine any law as cruel and unusual simply because a law is considered harmful, then an activist supreme court could literally wrest power away from every state and federal body to apply law as they see fit.
@jamesatccrkba8053
15 күн бұрын
Thank you! They merely returned the very complex and varying issue of homelessness back to the legislatures where it rightfully belongs, not in a single federal court.
@GordonKley-nz4qm
10 күн бұрын
The communists believe that the courts can create law and can change how the constitution was applied by the expediency of one segment of society pushing their agenda.
@beckyheinz7337
3 күн бұрын
Haven't they done that already? The Supreme Court has been compromised and is corrupt. Homelessness is a product of many things, including unaffordable housing. SMH
@katemetzger3740
Күн бұрын
Yes we need decent low income housing. We also need to improve our own approach to personal responsibility. I dont think its appropriate for Black Rock et al to buy up low income housing blocks. I also don't think that it's OK to expect tax payers to support people who want to focus their efforts on drug & alcohol abuse instead of self care. We need decent mental health care & a greater push to have people working towards a self sustaining lifestyle. Theft & illegal drug production are not good career paths.
@michaelfriscia8166
14 күн бұрын
Homelessness isn't a crime but littering loitering and camping in non-designated areas blocking sidewalks and defecating outdoors is criminal activity.
@ilghiz
10 күн бұрын
These people are deprived of housing by predatory business practices that create artificial housing and affordability shortage. These people don't have anywhere to sleep, cook, wash up, do their number one and number two. They were pushed to streets and they're punished for it. This is the way Murican Freedom works.
@CharlesCurran-m9p
18 күн бұрын
Gee, it seems that this problem could be solved if only there was a place where mentally ill people could live and where drug addicts could get help. Hmmmm, I remember hearing that they used to have places like that a long time ago. What were they called?
@JohnB-nq4js
18 күн бұрын
Sorry bro, Zelensky needs that money
@55metalmonkey
17 күн бұрын
@@JohnB-nq4js If you only knew that Feds give foreign military aid, not individual states your comment wouldn't sound so uninformed. Homelessness is under each state and county, What you should really be concerned about is who is running these homeless shelters and where the money is going because the math doesn't add up. 130 million spent by Oregon for an est 13,000 homeless (approx $10k/person) not to mention what each affected county pays ie: mulhonmah county added an additional 225 million for their 6,633 homeless (roughly $34k/person). so combined that is $44k/homeless person paid for by the taxpayers that are seeing their county go to shit. The homeless shelter CEOs and activists are making major cash while asking for more money to solve the problem. Shit for the money being spent per year you could buy each homeless person a fucking house yet no one is asking where the money is going. At least with Ukraine the money is audited and accounted for.
@JohnB-nq4js
17 күн бұрын
@@55metalmonkey save the BS for Zelensky, bud
@55metalmonkey
17 күн бұрын
@@JohnB-nq4js You just keep believing the Russian bullshit propaganda because it makes you feel informed in your online echo chamber.
@Golfnut_2099
17 күн бұрын
The problem is that most addicts do not want help. YES... it should be mandated. If they do not want help, then put them in jail!!!
@desperadodeluxe2292
17 күн бұрын
Homeless should not be allowed to camp somewhere for extended periods of time blocking park spaces and public infrastructure. Im homeless and i cant stand those people.
@Skinrender420
14 күн бұрын
30 days in jail sounds like a nice vacation for the homeless
@silverhills5684
14 күн бұрын
Yes, especially in Winter. Warmer in jail than outside in the snow, ice and freezing rain.
@Starfish987
14 күн бұрын
Sounds like it will just become a cycle. 72 hours after being released they are back in with free food and heat. It sounds cleaner and safer than the street too...
@GUNVALKERIE
21 күн бұрын
How exactly are they suppose to pay IF THEY HAVE NO MONEY?
@scottyflintstone
21 күн бұрын
Weekend in jail, throw your crap away
@thebigunodos3559
21 күн бұрын
@@scottyflintstoneThen what?
@davidmc8475
21 күн бұрын
Somehow they always have money for drugs but not a room. I rented a room until I had enough money for an apartment and got a roommate to make it more affordable.
@thebigunodos3559
21 күн бұрын
@@davidmc8475 Sounds like addiction. Would you recommend more of a focus on addiction treatment?
@Sweetiebombsvids
21 күн бұрын
@@davidmc8475 You think drugs cost more than rent? Also stopping drugs causes withdrawal that makes being homeless feel so much worse, and in some cases depending on the drug can kill you. Addiction is no joke.
@noticedruid4985
19 күн бұрын
It might not violate the 8th Amendment, but could arguably violate the 9th Amendment though. Also let's be real here, this is basically a law to make homelessness illegal. Can't sleep on private property, Trespassing. Can't sleep on Public Property now too, so what else is it but a ban on homelessness. We should address the homelessness problem in the country. The solution should not be out of sight, out of mind. Also not every homeless person is homeless simply due to housing it's very complex. Some are housing issues, others are drug issues, and others are mental health issues. You cannot simply take a one size fits all approach to homelessness. Also for those who don't know it's easy to become homeless but a lot harder to get out of it.
@amythinks
18 күн бұрын
Homelessness is a symptom of a broken heart or a broken mind. Trauma. Crappy parents. These people deserve compassion to be sure. But a trillion dollars can't (and hasn't) "addressed" homelessness. Sure, there are a few people down on their luck, but that's not the majority. Those folks who aren't drug-addicted or suffering from psychiatric problems don't stay homeless for long. Now, with certain idiots running the country, I can't say that will hold true forever... But for now, you can't address homelessness because you have mis-identified the cause. The bleeding heart commenters are doing the homeless exactly zero favors by refusing to open their eyes so we can talk about the real reason such people are suffering.
@donnawestbrook8992
16 күн бұрын
@@amythinks yes broken hearts and broken minds. But caring doesn't mean someone's eyes aren't open. Some places have solutions that work. This ruling is cruel, not working towards a solution.
@Exis247
16 күн бұрын
Why would they address the problem when they can just make it worse and then promise to fix it for their next campaign?
@ferociousfeind8538
16 күн бұрын
It's really expensive to be poor! You can't afford any of the "bulk savings" sort of things, no opportunities are in your reach, people hate you due to stereotypes, it's a living hell
@amythinks
15 күн бұрын
The Sumpreme Court's ruling has nothing to do with kindness or cruelty. They do not make law, they interpret it. Trust me, you do not want justices making laws...so dont fault them when they do their job appropriately.@donnawestbrook8992
@JosephsDesign
7 күн бұрын
Oh! I always wondered why some campsites limited stays to a couple days, it’s to keep away the homeless. . .
@jhoughjr1
21 күн бұрын
Nome of those things matter when you are homeless
@scottyflintstone
21 күн бұрын
Homeless must go into shelter or leave
@TheEndisnear928
21 күн бұрын
Over 85% of all homeless are homeless by choice... I've seen homeless people with signs saying hungry. But flip out if you try to give them anything but money.
@thebigunodos3559
21 күн бұрын
@@TheEndisnear928 Source?
@ISayNukem
21 күн бұрын
@thebigunodos3559 Himself. He said he's seen it. I have, too. One time in Tucson I watched a "homeless" guy leave his position next to the street, walk behind a store, throw his ratty cardboard sign into the back of his late model Corvette, and drive away. I've dealt with the ones that only want money. I have even given one food that was asking for money because he was hungry, and watched him throw the food away half a block away. "Source."
@heatherdetrick9750
21 күн бұрын
@@TheEndisnear92885%? Where did you get that number?
@venomsbite3925
20 күн бұрын
Ah yes, let's fine the people famous for not having money. What could possibly go wrong
@amythinks
18 күн бұрын
If you think lack of money is why most people are homeless, you are delusional.
@luisgalizien
18 күн бұрын
Arent they? @@amythinks
@YourewrongAgain
18 күн бұрын
You know, my friend's mom used to be like you.Until she became a police officer and arrested homeless people. During the searches, she would pull out hundreds and hundreds of dollars out of their pockets and realized they had more money than she did. Don't be naive to think homeless people don't have money
@amythinks
18 күн бұрын
@@luisgalizien Not in the US. Sure, there are some people who are homeless due to lack of funds, but it's not the majority of the problem. Drug addictions, psychiatric problems top the list. There's nothing compassionate about enabling people.
@travisshooks7374
18 күн бұрын
Apparently they have money for lawyers to sue.
@stormlakebobcat9058
12 күн бұрын
Allowing corporate purchases of housing and pushing too high that folks can't afford it. That should be criminalized
@maalikserebryakov
12 күн бұрын
muh free market
@Marconius6
19 күн бұрын
Banning homelessness is like making it illegal to be poor... Like what the hell are they supposed to do?
@patrickkinnear8625
18 күн бұрын
They should just move into your yard. Your kids can just avoid the needles.
@ianbelletti6241
18 күн бұрын
Not block traffic, not litter, not damage public park property... They have the gear. Go find public land that they can live off of in sustenance. The reality is, however, that the core of the problem is complex. The ban on encampments only solves one piece of the puzzle. Some of the homeless need to be kept in a psych ward. Others need treatment for addictions. Some just need put in jail. The remaining group needs access to affordable housing/shelter and legitimate work. The problem is that most communities slapdash solutions thinking that the one solution they created is enough. People who look at problems the way you do are part of the problem why only one or two of the many needed solutions get implemented. "We need more homeless shelters but not in my neighborhood. We should also excoriate the government for banning homelessness even though we don't do anything in the community to help solve the problem. It's all the government's fault." Solving homelessness takes a community. What the government can do is very limited.
@YourewrongAgain
18 күн бұрын
Not camp on the streets or make a public health hazard. Get themselves cleaned up off the drugs and get a job so they can afford a place to live. That's what they're supposed to do as adults in american society
@ianbelletti6241
18 күн бұрын
@@YourewrongAgain don't forget about getting help for psychological issues that keep them from becoming a contributing member of society.
@WolfJarl
18 күн бұрын
@@ianbelletti6241 With that money? Your country literally requires you to be a lottery winner to get basic healthcare.
@draighodge6039
21 күн бұрын
We could focus on eliminating the things (laws, rules, and regulations) that make housing unavailable and or unaffordable.
@lybnychavez6953
19 күн бұрын
Mmm most homeless aren’t there because unaffordable housing, if you can’t afford this cost of living it’s your responsibility to move elsewhere, however most of these homeless problems have to deal with crime and loose drug laws that allowed people not to get care by turning them into addicts
@lubu4u312
19 күн бұрын
The wood for the house is taxed. The metal for the pipes is taxed. The plastics for the accents are taxed. The land itself is taxed. The labor is taxed. The transportation is taxed The roads for the transportation are taxed The gas for the trucks are taxed. The trucks themselves are taxed. The business of the trucks are taxed The back hoe is taxed. The excavator is taxed. The gas for the backhoe and excavator are taxed. The Rights to use this equipment is taxed. The owner is taxed on receiving the money to build. The owner is taxed on finishing the project. The business is taxed for filing The business is taxed for advertising The business is taxed for staffing/contracting The business is taxed for selling and YOU ARE TAXED for buying! Unless youre ready to rock republican red, please just forget about homeless people.
@draighodge6039
18 күн бұрын
@lubu4u312 What?! We have all these taxes, along with a plethora of inscrutable laws, rules, and regulations as a consequence of Bipartisan Cooperation, a.k.a. the Uniparty. Republicans have repeatedly promised to reduce the size and scope of government, yet they vote for to grow it, and their presidents sign each new expansion into law just like Democrats. Remember Reagan, Gingrich, and the Contract with America? Government grew by a factor of five (5) during Ronnie's first term and a factor of eight (8) in his second. The Bushes expanded it more, and then Republicans helped Clinton and Obama continue the growth. The same thing happened in every State Legislature. At the end of the day, Republicans are the "Party of let us help Democrats bankrupt our Union". Compromised principles are nothing more than talking points and lies.
@draighodge6039
18 күн бұрын
@lybnychavez6953 You doubt that having Zoning Laws which mandate 2,500 sq ft or larger homes on half an acre fails to impact the availability of affordable housing? You doubt that limiting occupancy to blood relatives has zero effect in options?
@lubu4u312
18 күн бұрын
@@draighodge6039 i agree and strongly believe we need a new party. both are compromised.
@MacLaw3084
14 күн бұрын
Everyone else is being punished by these encampments: Rats, disease, drugs, collecting extraordinary amounts of refuse, human waste, disproportionately high use of emergency services, etc.
@bobisgollis5168
11 күн бұрын
That old adage/saying...you know...give them an inch.....
@jefffoxworthyspen680
21 күн бұрын
This isn't exactly accurate, The issue is TIME AND PLACE restrictions. That's all this is, you can restrict when and where people can camp, you can not create a blanket ban. Time and place restrictions are completely reasonable.
@patrickc1508
20 күн бұрын
“Time and place restrictions are completely reasonable.” 🤔👍👍 Okay, we ONLY allow camping in this singular 3 foot by 6 foot space in this one park right across from the police station on February 29th from 12:00AM until 12:01AM. You can camp one minute every four years. 😂
@christophershope3896
20 күн бұрын
@@patrickc1508it is completely reasonable. Homeless people camping and completely monopolizing certain public spaces is what is not reasonable. The government should provide full time areas where it is reasonable though.
@TimSlee1
16 күн бұрын
Sounds like a slippery slope, you people will bow to elites without even realizing it.
@TimSlee1
16 күн бұрын
@@patrickc1508 This is true, what the average American finds "completely reasonable" often leads to worse policies and restrictions.
@Noename-qx5rn
12 күн бұрын
@@patrickc1508or, the homeless are completely fucking over blind people and/or people in wheel chairs by completely blocking sidewalks. They don’t give a fuck. Don’t believe it? Not throwing trash everywhere is free, but they won’t do it.
@travisgravelle7687
18 күн бұрын
Instead of building shelters like hotels. Build them like parking garages. With sections marked out on the floor. With spaces big enough to accommodate trailers/ campers. One or two communal wash/ bath rooms per floor with open showers. Cops can patrol regularly. Solves the encampment problem and gives the homeless something at least better than camping on the street.
@Qoboiboi
7 сағат бұрын
This will create so much violence and could spread disease. Also create more discomfort for pedestrians and people living nearby. Terrible idea, just build normal shelters.
@travisgravelle7687
3 сағат бұрын
@@Qoboiboi not sure how this will create any more violence than already occurs at such encampments. Choosing the right location will mitigate 'neighbor' issues. Discomfort is gonna happen either way. Having access to clean water, the ability to wash yourself and your clothes goes a long way to preventing disease and vermin. It also boost self esteem. Letting them set their own camps in relation to others alleviates some conflict. We've been trying the 'hotel' method and it doesn't appear to be working. It's also inherently more expensive. Time to try something else.
@talon9924
16 күн бұрын
I heard it would cost cities less to house all the homeless people then the current cost of clean up, Medical aid, and incarceration. Not sure if that's true but it probably would reduce crime and drug use by a lot!!!
@drewgon13
7 күн бұрын
If it was true they would do it. Do you really believe a bunch of greedy bureaucrats wouldn’t do something to make themselves more money as well as look better? Reality is that putting a homeless person in a building doesn’t negate the reason why they are homeless. Many of them have issues that require extensive care, like mental health issues and drug addiction. And, in the US, the only institutions that can compel someone to seek treatment against their will is the prison system. A lot of the European housing projects have very strict drug policies and use a carrot and the stick method to achieve recovery.
@jamesdallas1493
18 күн бұрын
NGO make millions $ off the homeless.
@maryreise7191
Күн бұрын
THEN THE SUPREME COURT SHOULD TAKE THEM HOMELESS IN THEIR HOMES TO HELP OUT ! ❤😊
@adamwoodworth5758
17 күн бұрын
The main problem I have with homeless encampments is the garage and human waste. It makes the area both an eyesore and a health hazard. The more you allow it to happen the bigger it grows till you get the situation like in the tenderloin in California. It's a bad situation for everyone including the homeless.
@ryanarthur9102
19 күн бұрын
To fine someone who doesn't have the money to pay it and then incarcerate them for failing to pay the fine is cruel. That we've normalized this, is unusual.
@YourewrongAgain
18 күн бұрын
Great.So how many former homeless people do you have living with you
@YourewrongAgain
18 күн бұрын
And we can all just move in with ryan
@Trahloc
18 күн бұрын
How many homeless people are in jail for that? I've never seen statistics for it. I only know about the guys that intentionally commit crimes to avoid being homeless.
@YourAlcoholicUncle
18 күн бұрын
Must be those "Christian values" conservatives are always claiming to have
@chiefcrash1
18 күн бұрын
By definition: if it's been normalized, it's not unusual.... But it would appear that, by your definitions, poor people are supposed to be immune from the criminal justice system. Since virtually any engagement with the criminal justice system can include fines or bail requirements, and that would be "cruel".... I'm curious how you expect such a society to function
@nobbyfirefly57
8 сағат бұрын
A small civil fine? What are they even fining? They don’t have a bank account as they have no address. Do they go in person to take the cash they don’t have?
@mahekorvenoges550
21 күн бұрын
Having no car is also not a crime, but walking in the middle of a highway is still illegal (except maybe when carrying a big banner to protest against something)
@yienasalin3842
19 күн бұрын
or sitting in the middle of a busy road to protest climate change or some foreign conflict.
@supremelordoftheuniverse5449
19 күн бұрын
It shouldn’t be. Most people walk, a small minority of people drive. We need to reset the priorities here
@XavianBrightly
18 күн бұрын
@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 as someone who walks thats just flat out flase
@Noename-qx5rn
12 күн бұрын
@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449what country do you live in?
@supremelordoftheuniverse5449
10 күн бұрын
@@Noename-qx5rn Sweden - excellent place for pedestrians BTW
@Infernoblade1010
18 күн бұрын
California: HOW DARE YOU NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD A HOME/APARTMENT??? Homeless Californians: YOU'RE THE REASON WE CAN'T AFFORD A HOME/APARTMENT!!! Also California: You're still gonna vote blue right??
@DeviceNull
17 күн бұрын
Because there is totally no housing problem in Florida
@ThatGuy-oc4mv
16 күн бұрын
California spends billions on the homeless problem. These people have places to go, they’re just too much of pathetic junkies to not use for the night
@macfig6017
16 күн бұрын
California is the dumpster of America and it’s because of their politicians
@Paul-A01
17 күн бұрын
You don't have a right to camp on the sidewalk.
@arcguardian
16 күн бұрын
True but that's not the issue. That ban should already be in place.
@jeffsorrows
16 күн бұрын
Interesting enough, they banned the PERSON for staying in the same place for 72 hours. If someone set up 30-40 tents with cots and other small necessities, around the city with a 72 hour cycle, where they just walk a quarter of a mile away, counter clockwise and pay a small monthly fee. I suppose someone could become a TRUE SLUMLORD, and since the tents don't belong to the homeless and they're not staying encamped In the same location for more than 3 days, then it'll be an up and coming business venture.
@mikeymullins5305
16 күн бұрын
Why the fuck not. If I'm a citizen of this goddamn country, I have a right to be wherever I please in the public space.
@Paul-A01
16 күн бұрын
@@mikeymullins5305 Do you think you have the right to piss on the library floor? Public space does not mean "do whatever you want" space.
@TimSlee1
16 күн бұрын
I hope they camp on your sidewalk.
@paulosbornept7523
21 күн бұрын
Didn't we have Vagrancy laws.
@able34bravo37
19 күн бұрын
We did, but then the left happened.
@michaelfielding2948
13 күн бұрын
I have a solution, but it's illegal.
@got2kittys
19 күн бұрын
Speculating up home prices and restrictions on zoning, and what you can build are drivers of homelessness. It's a sign of an unbalanced society, when you have poverty stricken beggars sleeping outdoors near million dollar homes.
@MichelleBeahm
21 күн бұрын
Who filed on behalf of the homeless because the homeless can’t foot the bill ..
@fuxkag3908
20 күн бұрын
Probably a charity
@worldofdoom995
20 күн бұрын
probably a non-profit law firm.
@TimSlee1
16 күн бұрын
@@worldofdoom995 Is there even such a thing? Sounds like nonsense.
@vernaclevinger5716
14 күн бұрын
It's not mean to keep people from stealing or defacing land that belongs to others.
@The_Defiant_One
18 күн бұрын
If you're not on YOUR property, then you shouldn't be able to put up a structure on said property and live there for a prolonged period of time.
@Jeslik
17 күн бұрын
And if you are on your property, its often still not in compliance with local state / town/city/county/hoa regulations. Every agency wants your property taxes, so has a bunch of permits and regulations for the minimum size, structure, utilities, etc. E even camping on your own land for extended periods is often not legal, without power/septic/water and all the other little ties they try to bind you with.
@DeviceNull
17 күн бұрын
Are you saying America is illegal?
@lancewalker6067
18 күн бұрын
Two homeless people filed a lawsuit. Riiight.
@grankmisguided
17 күн бұрын
So only people who own property should have access to the legal system?
@avalis2710
15 күн бұрын
NGOs
@ericnelson4540
16 күн бұрын
No beds available? Gospel Rescue Mission is only at 40% occupancy. Public spaces are designated for specific uses. Public parks are generally not campgrounds.
@rlittlefield2691
21 күн бұрын
The Supreme court was stuck between a rock an a hard place, if they ruled the other way then homeless people would have been free to move in wherever they want, you front porch not problem.
@LouieBaLLz
19 күн бұрын
Gotta love the compassionate "christians" on the court. We know their lawd wouldn't help homeless people either.
@joton5530
19 күн бұрын
@@LouieBaLLz Gotta love the morons that believe that being Christian equates to someone who must allow others to walk all over them. Gotta love the morons that assume Christianity means you have to give everything up. Gotta love the morons who claim they know what Christianity is when they have never read the bible.
@HeavenLeahSky
19 күн бұрын
@LouieBaLLz You!! Shshhshhĥ. Yes you reading this. Your criticism brings nothing but division. No I am not religious. But bringing something down without making a real point only hurts your argument and only serves to sets back a real problem with stupid in-fighting. It's what the gears want. Just don't cause friction in the upper levels of function and we can grind away at each other aalllll weee waaanntttt.
@helluvafan4life10
19 күн бұрын
@@joton5530I have read the Bible. God will be disappointed with all of you.
@78965412395
18 күн бұрын
@helluvafan4life10 I seem to recall something about "as you have done to the most unfortunate among you, so you have done to me." Also that part where he says, "depart from me, ye accursed," etc.
@Trahloc
18 күн бұрын
It sucks but folks have a right to access their property without having to step over someone sleeping in front of their door. The solution to homelessness isn't to bring it into people's front door.
@MauiRedMan
14 күн бұрын
They shouldn't be put in their tents up on the city sidewalks😊
@goodcitizen3027
17 күн бұрын
There often ARE shelter beds available. People just don’t want to abide by the rules of the shelter. What the homeless should be advocating for are more and better shelters. But camping in public parks and on the streets is not as solution. As it is, Grant’s Pass just requires that they move every three days.
@Leah-Heala
17 күн бұрын
That's... a main thing people advocate for, better shelters, and it's not the rules of the shelter that are the problem. They're generally ranging from decent, to utter hell for some of them. I'd argue you were BETTER and SAFER off in a tent on the streets than in a good few of the shelters, if you could even get IN one in the first place, my best friend was homeless for a time, and she managed to get into two different shelters, both she was SA'd, this isn't some random sob story either, shelters are known to sometimes genuinely just completely and utterly unsafe and conditions HEAVILY vary.
@ambersgrace1
17 күн бұрын
I agree completely. Both of my brothers are homeless because they are addicts. There are shelter beds available but drug use is not allowed in the shelter. Last year one brother stayed at a shelter for a few days and was provided soboxone. Sadly he didn’t stick to it and left the shelter. Shelters should be drug free. The homeless crisis is caused by a drug crisis. My brothers do not have to be homeless, our family would take them in but only if they’re sober. Just like I can’t allow a fentanyl addict in my house, residents shouldn’t have to allow them to camp anywhere they please.
@goodcitizen3027
17 күн бұрын
@@Leah-Heala Kindly read the comment directly below yours. This is actually the reality of most of the people on the streets. Between mental health issues and drug addiction, they don’t want to be housed.
@Leah-Heala
17 күн бұрын
@@goodcitizen3027 Ok, let's say it's all drug issues, like all drug addicts, every last one of them. Even if that were hypothetically the case. Numerous countries and research organizations concluded that the best way to treat a homeless drug addicted population is to take them in, and put them through a treatment regime that at first allows the safe use of drugs before eventually making them clean. Obviously oversimplified but that's what was shown. You don't instantly turn people away from shelters for being drug addicts, and even then, if homeless people aren't coming to your shelter, that's a problem with your shelter. Homeless people aren't just "drug addicts" and "mental health issues" don't matter either you make it sound like they're all movie level schizophrenics that need a straight jacket. I don't know why American refuse to swallow their pride and acknowledge what literally any other developed country has done to help truly alleviate their homelessness problem and try it out instead of crossing their arms and shouting "no no wait... Our people are just special cookies!" All of the good that proper homeless care that provide that was scientifically backed up and has numerous real world examples behind it doesn't apply to us!"
@daryljay7057
21 күн бұрын
There are so many abandoned domestic military installations around the country that could be used for housing. It's the dope! Have to want to get clean.
@Jumping-q3h
7 күн бұрын
No one is required to furnish a bed for you!
@ДмитроПрищепа-д3я
6 күн бұрын
and they don't ask for it either, you dimwit
@ihave35cents95
5 күн бұрын
@@ДмитроПрищепа-д3я if you’re dirty ass is out in front of my property that I’m paying property taxes on you’re getting the hose every 10 minutes
@tedcruz212
16 күн бұрын
People wouldn’t want to ban homelessness if the homeless were shooting up drugs in public parks and leaving trash and feces everywhere (yes I’ve seen all this in my city) not to mention that rampant mental illness that makes homeless people a serious potential danger, i completely understand why cities want to ban homelessness.
@LillyP-xs5qe
8 күн бұрын
Behaviour? Like people choose to do it, the judges that voted for it and any politician should be made homeless for a year at least.
@baphythewendigo
15 күн бұрын
this is disgusting this is literally taking humans making it impossible for them to live in a city and then punishing them for not being able to live in the city
@jamesatccrkba8053
15 күн бұрын
Read the ruling, that's not what they ruled. They simply passed the problem back to the various legislatures where it belongs, not in a single federal court.
@baphythewendigo
13 күн бұрын
@@jamesatccrkba8053 my city has 1700 homeless people out of 300,000 ...they spent 150,000 on anti homeless spikes even tho I live in the rocky mountains
@jamesatccrkba8053
Күн бұрын
@@hemoalmaster3014 Yes. But don't take my word for it. The ruling is a public document.
@jamesatccrkba8053
22 сағат бұрын
@@hemoalmaster3014 I suggest you read the ruling.
@scoobadooba97
19 күн бұрын
Yup. Give a fine to a homeless person. Smart. 😑
@lordpuff
Күн бұрын
"We won't provide you with shelter but you also can'tstay outside." The fuck are they supposed to do? Open a portal into the 6th dimension and live there???
@jscan4442
19 күн бұрын
Rich folks deciding what poor folks can and can't do.
@Michaelfatman-xo7gv
18 күн бұрын
Always have...always will. Knowing this is half the battle. Adapt.
@JGorman-z7v
17 күн бұрын
Their not all poor. Most are addicts and mental ill
@Juddernaut89
21 күн бұрын
Land of the free, so long as you can afford it.
@chrismcphail5378
2 күн бұрын
The Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution protects citizens from unreasonable searches and seizures by the government. It states that people have the right to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects. The amendment also requires that warrants be issued only upon probable cause and that they specifically describe the place to be searched and the people or things to be seized.
@gmanblue2026
15 күн бұрын
Camping bans don't criminalize homelessness, they protect the rights of property owners (including the public in the case of public property) from being overrun by drug addicts. Homelessness is mostly an issue of bad behavior and poor life choices. Most homeless people on the streets don't want to go to a shelter because shelters prohibit drug use and other bad behavior. Anyone else notice the irony that homeless people have the resources to sue over their decision to occupy private property but not to find a place to live?
@joeb578
14 күн бұрын
I don't know where you live, but shelters where i do, are unsafe, people get stabbed, stuff stolen etc. And you have to gather your stuff in the morning and cant come back till the evening,
@jeremiahjackson6590
17 күн бұрын
And you can keep them at your house we don't want them messing up our streets
@rickkeith1
19 күн бұрын
“Yes, making homelessness illegal will solve the problem,” said idiots everywhere.
@StrangersIteDomum
16 күн бұрын
Illegal to pitch a tent in the middle of town is not the same
@maxd361
9 күн бұрын
I’m a lawyer and I’ve been working on homelessness issues for about 7 years. This is the best distillation of the Johnson v Grants Pass decision I have seen yet.
@riku3716
19 күн бұрын
How exactly does making homeless people's lives harder address the homeless issue?
@jaredtandle2596
15 күн бұрын
All a symptom of what they voted for the past 20 years.
@meggrotte4760
16 күн бұрын
I think the problem is is that people aren't allowed to live in their cars. If you're homeless where the hell are you supposed to go. If you have no family that you can stay with and your friends are just as poor as you are what do you
@anandpopat2549
14 күн бұрын
WHY are there no shelter beds available?! 1) IMMIGRANTS take them 2) BIDENOMICS made out country poor
@hollydowns2279
14 күн бұрын
You should move to a dictatorship if Harris wins
@micahroberts8383
14 күн бұрын
When was the last time you talked to someone who lives in a shelter or even works in a shelter? I've been a therapist for 15 years and I can tell you that limited access to shelter space has been around for a long time. This is primarily due to a lack of proactive solutions in local government combined with under funding shelters. This isn't a political statement so much as fact. Don't take my word for it- go to any shelter in the country and see for yourself. You don't have to believe everything you're told on the Internet, dude.
@coffeelover5780
14 күн бұрын
Corporations buying up all the homes and jacking up the prices. Then they sit abandoned because no one can afford them.
@bluesdragon42
17 күн бұрын
Criminalizing poverty 🤬👎🏻
@Redbird4912
14 күн бұрын
A warning, a fine or 30 days in jail. Jail? You mean a secure safe facility with a roof, a bed, regular meals, a toilet and somewhere to wash. With free access to healthcare. The greater punishment, surely, is to not send them to jail for 30 days.
@arthurattila7835
14 күн бұрын
Sleeping outside is not a crime. Sleeping on someone else's property, including public property is.
@SunnyMitten
21 күн бұрын
30 Days in Jail? Well, at least they'd get food water and shelter, it'll just encourage homeless to commit crime and then turn themselves in for the jails just to live. 🤮
@spydernyne984
21 күн бұрын
According to this, they're already committing a crime by being homeless.
@SunnyMitten
21 күн бұрын
@@spydernyne984 Exactly, and if they can't pay, they'll just commit more severe crimes to get to jail faster for some basic needs fulfilled, these laws targeting the poor are just gonna make the poor prefer to be in jail.
@knrdvmmlbkkn
19 күн бұрын
@@spydernyne984"According to this, (...) by being homeless." No, that wasn't the issue.
@goodfortunetoyou
17 күн бұрын
Last week I saw a video where some baby boomers were shoplifting small dollar values in goods so they could go to prison. Apparently shoplifting carries long prison terms.
@immortalgrandmaster9724
16 күн бұрын
We are beyond insanity. Even Hollywood couldn’t come up with such a dystopia.
@davidclearwater4646
15 күн бұрын
The homelessness isn't banned. The homeless are free to continue to be homeless. The ban was on the encampment.
@FireLizard98
14 күн бұрын
If outdoor camping is banned what are homeless people supposed to do at night? Choose not to exist? It's a homelessness ban
@dfairholmjr
14 күн бұрын
@@FireLizard98no just don’t stay in the same place for three nights 🤷♂️
@FireLizard98
14 күн бұрын
@@dfairholmjr I hope that your disregard for the impact of this expectation is out of ignorance and not callous cruelty
@anthonyalonso9794
20 күн бұрын
I personally think the logic of SCOTUS tracks, when they are focusing on the punishment itself, and not it's impacts. That being said, I agree with the top comment, ending regulations that prohibit small affordable homes will help, but it also would been interesting if there were other arguments besides the 8th amendment.
@toddhorner7041
15 күн бұрын
Criminalizing normal behavior is what most corporate governments do to generate profit for the corporation!
@travisdoe4663
15 күн бұрын
I don't think laying around on the street defecating, doing drugs and leaving thousands of pounds a garbage in your wake is considered normal behavior.. You can be homeless without Ruining the community you are living in.
@andrewlacerenza667
18 күн бұрын
I've seen a lot of homeless people spending money on drugs instead of using that money to help get them off the streets. I personally can't see why they can't make reasonable decisions to better their life, addiction sucks (I'm 6 years into sobriety), but wouldn't losing a roof over your head be the final straw? I really don't understand.
@frenchieff5503
18 күн бұрын
The homelessness to prison pipeline....
@trancetechkid
16 күн бұрын
Literally the only thing this Supreme Court has done that isn’t atrocious
@duanesiles1751
7 күн бұрын
If they didn't leave so much trash everywhere nobody would have a problem but when they crap all over the place and throw trash everywhere nobody wants them around anymore
@kirkjohnson6638
21 күн бұрын
First off the Constitutional restriction is against cruel AND unusual punishment not cruel OR unusual punishment. Cruelty involves the person doling out the punishment taking pleasure in inflicting pain upon the punished. The unusual aspect is intended to keep the punishers from singling out some convicts for punishment that is different than typically given to those convicted of the same offense. The outlawing of camping on public lands not designated for such is neither cruel nor unusual.
@TopiasSalakka
21 күн бұрын
How to solve homelessness: give them a home 🐡 Works in Finland, there are practically no homeless people here.
@LynyrdSkynyrd.4Ever
21 күн бұрын
GIVE? Who pays for this gift? I have to work for everything I get. I don't want to work so that YOU can sit on your butt and mooch off me! 🙄
@TopiasSalakka
21 күн бұрын
@@LynyrdSkynyrd.4Ever It's infinitely easier for them to get jobs when they have a home, so it pays back. Your view is very short-sighted and selfish.
@imcannabess
21 күн бұрын
In Los Angeles they built taxpayer funded housing for the homeless and it ended up costing over $700,000 per unit. When government pays for something they have no incentive to lower costs and it’s easy for the politically connected to give the contracts to their friends.
@TopiasSalakka
21 күн бұрын
@@imcannabess Here they are just placed in existing, cheap apartments. Also i was slightly incorrect, they're not given housing but they pay for it themselves. Though, the money comes from taxpayer money anyway until they find a job.
@imcannabess
20 күн бұрын
@@TopiasSalakka do you think giving people something reduces the pride people take in it? In Seattle the city rented out a hotel to house the homeless during COVID. It was $200K a month. The people trashed the hotel so badly, they ended up getting kicked out and taxpayers still had to fund the lease until it was up. On the flip side, when I lived in LA I volunteered at a women’s shelter on Skid Row. We had a social enterprise that provided the ladies jobs and transitional housing. Their units were super clean, the women took a lot of pride in them, and a small portion were able to become financially independent and eventually move into their own places. 🙏🏼
@melanief6113
13 күн бұрын
Problem is, SCOTUS no longer does this. They are ruling on emotion, not law.
@jeremywheeler2122
21 күн бұрын
It should be criminalized and punished by rehabilitation. They have no money to pay any penalty. They need to get to work.
@amberspark9434
21 күн бұрын
You realize criminalizing it would mean they get a criminal record and therefore block them from most jobs and housing right?
@jeremywheeler2122
20 күн бұрын
@@amberspark9434 what do you suggest? The current plan to leave them be hasn't helped do anything but create crime and trash in our streets.
@fuxkag3908
20 күн бұрын
@@jeremywheeler2122 Two solutions come to mind 1. Make a criminal record not ruin someone's life 2. Making it easier for homeless people to stop being homeless or get rehabilitated if they are addicts aka actually activley help them stop being homeless
@jeremywheeler2122
20 күн бұрын
@@fuxkag3908 you'll notice that your number two is exactly what I said in my first sentence. Do you support allowing them to continue to camp out on City sidewalks trashing up the place leaving their filth everywhere? I go by every single day due to the fact that the places that provide support to homeless people are nearby.
@fuxkag3908
20 күн бұрын
@@jeremywheeler2122 Criminalizing homelessness is not gonna solve anything Helping them is what should be the task, but to my knowledge the goverment does not do that and if they did they would be using taxpayer money which most people will complain about thus nothing gets solved, and getting this setup is tough But I would say, a vast majority of them if provided the chance to go back to their normal pre-homeless life would happily do it
@bicyclist2
20 күн бұрын
Insanity is now the legal norm, and sanity is now outlawed.
@duchessstudioband7896
Сағат бұрын
During the depression,each town across the USA, set up poor farms. This was for the homeless to live in . Each had a bed, grew their own food, medical care was provided. The poor farms were usually located outside of city limits. You stayed until you got yourself back on your feet. No alcohol or drugs were allowed
@MichelleBeahm
21 күн бұрын
Is trespassing a crime ?
@enderkatze6129
21 күн бұрын
Fun how that's Not at all the same
@zigzag321go
21 күн бұрын
Only on private property. There's no such thing as trespassing on land considered owned by the public.
@wlonsdale1
21 күн бұрын
@@zigzag321go Unless one commits a crime then it's like a public building
@Gibeah
20 күн бұрын
not when the person being trespassed is a psychopathic amoral bastard👍
@JohnB-nq4js
18 күн бұрын
The question is, does an individual have a right to squat on public property? And, of course, the answer is no.
@dylanmanka8795
18 күн бұрын
That’s absurd, if you are a us citizen, you have the freedom to go to or sleep in any public area. Citizens have unfettered access to the public USA.
@JohnB-nq4js
18 күн бұрын
@dylanmanka8795 that's imbecilic. And demonstrably false.
@natescode
17 күн бұрын
@@dylanmanka8795America, freedom? 😂
@RobertECartwright
3 күн бұрын
I've lost two friends to these encampments. One of them mentally ill, the other died with a needle in his arm.
@theorphanobliterator
19 күн бұрын
so what are homeless people supposed to do
@Noename-qx5rn
12 күн бұрын
Be clean and don’t block the sidewalks. Nobody would probably be talking about them if they were at all considerate of others.
@Rose-yx6jq
17 күн бұрын
It should be cruel and unusual punishment.
@just_vish526
16 күн бұрын
Thats like trying to save a dying tree by watering the branches.
@romantemniuk9881
18 күн бұрын
Bidenomics at it best.
@TimSlee1
16 күн бұрын
"Inflation is at an all-time low!"
@romantemniuk9881
16 күн бұрын
@@TimSlee1 say no to drugs...
@TimSlee1
16 күн бұрын
@@romantemniuk9881 Drugs aren't the sole problem causing homelessness.
@omgmo1962
15 күн бұрын
In the Trump-stacked Supreme Court, and a case brought from a very red region of the country? Hmmmmm
@CoMorbiditty
18 күн бұрын
In Australia, renting is getting too expensive. It takes 3/4 of my wage. I cant even save enough money for a caravan. I know its going to get too expensive for me to live in the house soon and Id rather have a caravan to live in to save some money.
@TimSlee1
16 күн бұрын
The rich people in this comment section will never understand that, the divide is more about class than any other social issue.
@davidholtz6590
16 күн бұрын
Most state mental health hospitals were close some years ago with an ineffective back-up plan. Welcome to the streets.
@ram0166
18 күн бұрын
I’m starting to get French Revolution vibes.
@lubu4u312
19 күн бұрын
I love not being able to use the benches in the subway I love wondering if I'll catch a disease if I do I love having to stand because they want to take up 4 seats to sleep. I love being afraid when one of them is having an episode I love getting harassed and even chased for money I love how this is all "A-OKAY!" with police and gov. *I love how people who live hundreds of miles away from all this tell me I need to just deal with it.*
@dansmith7009
19 күн бұрын
It was always legal to criminalize homeless people from sleeping on the street when there were available homeless shelter beds they could use instead. The change is that it’s legal to arrest and convict people for sleeping on the street when there is no where else legal for them to go. Which means it will be exactly as illegal for homeless people to break into your house and sleep on your bed, as it would be for them to sleep in the park. I think that’s probably not going to work out better.
@lubu4u312
19 күн бұрын
@@dansmith7009 I love being told that I have to let people break into my house because I don't love it enough. (real talk youre not mentally well or a bot)
@justinwhite2725
18 күн бұрын
@@dansmith7009the real problem then is not enough shelters. Nothing wrong with the bans themselves.
@dansmith7009
18 күн бұрын
@@lubu4u312 huh, comment was deleted. Making it a crime to survive, means there is no incentive to avoid committing other crimes. Look up the long history of bread riots.
@dansmith7009
18 күн бұрын
@@justinwhite2725 well, the issue with the band is that it used to be considered unconstitutional to put homeless people in prison because they didn’t break the law. We decided that it’s unconstitutional to punish people for being poor. If it is a crime to sleep in a hotel or apartment without being able to pay, and it’s a crime to break into public property to sleep, and it’s a crime to sleep on public land, then what is the option for a homeless person to be law abiding? So they are going to jail for being poor. Which is why, in the past, the Supreme Court had said that you could only arrest people for that IF there were available beds, and saying there were no beds available was absolutely a legal defense. Also, if it’s illegal to sleep in public, then there is no reason for homeless people to set up tents on the sidewalk, instead of just picking a house or building that looks like it might be empty and breaking in to sleep inside.
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