"Only halfway there..." I wish it were that simple bro
@Mobik_
Ай бұрын
the following non stop 5 years are going to be a nightmare for him
@Belmont-69
2 ай бұрын
Local man discovers custom fonts
@Justin-es1bg
2 ай бұрын
jisho is a better resource for direct translation than google and tofugu is an amazing resource to learn both hiragana and katakana
@Sybato
2 ай бұрын
yeah jisho is a great for learning stroke order too
@MosquitoSenoritwo
2 ай бұрын
Yes! Jisho is so good. Also rikaikun for chrome to translate on screen text
@T0DD
2 ай бұрын
tofugu also has a bunch of lessons on grammar, and for kanji they made wanikani which is like anki (SRS program) preloaded with radicals, kanji and vocab. I'm a bit over 6 months in and have 33% of the entire program done.
@faceless30s
2 ай бұрын
Man would literally speedrun run one of the hardest languages before setting foot in a temple.
@xBlueCoconutx
2 ай бұрын
Katakana is so useful! I suggest prioritizing it over hiragana for day to day literacy in Japan. If you know English - a whole new world opens up very quickly from learning it. オレンジジュース. Also: it helps communication, because it explains why saying words like “coffee” are hard to understand, and instead use the “pronunciation hack” of katakana: コーヒー
@li_tsz_fung
2 ай бұрын
And then you can also spend time on rabbit holes like why power outlets are called コンセント (konsento)
@Mobik_
Ай бұрын
Learn both... will take you like a week to feel comfortable and then keep practicing every single day... kanji as well. That's what I have been doing for the past year and a half.
@m8onethousand
Ай бұрын
If your purpose is learning Japanese, hiragana is 100% more useful, but ultimately learning both is pretty much step 0 in your journey to learning Japanese, so whichever you learn first is ultimately irrelevant, but most people (me included) learn hiragana first.
@matercan5649
2 ай бұрын
As a Japanese speaker, seeing someone even just trying to read is really fun. Keep going Mudan, you got this. In 5 years you can read eventually read all Kanji and eveverything. Only 5 years.
@coolbrotherf127
2 ай бұрын
It took me only about a year to be able to read at a highschool level in Japanese, but I also studied like 6 hours a day.
@cheyennemoore8380
2 ай бұрын
So theoretically, over a thousand hours of practice helps you to be able to read. Yay. I'm getting close to recognizing a few words as I've been studying hiragana and kanji.
@Mobik_
Ай бұрын
only 5 years non stop of around 2+ hours every day
@Mobik_
Ай бұрын
@@cheyennemoore8380 you can say that... I have 1100 recorded hours of study and I should have another 300 hours of unrecorded and I'm able to read teenage level and understand simple KZitem videos.
@li_tsz_fung
2 ай бұрын
Katakana is a lot more useful for beginners, because that's what they use for the loan words most of the time. Like Internet インターネット (Inta-netto) KZitem ユーチューブ (Yu-chyu-bu) After memorising Katakana, you can guess a lot more things without knowing the language by trying to read it out. And most of the loan words are either from English, or from other european language that you can still guess from the "spelling". Like エネルギー (Enerugi) is energy (And then bunch of English speaking people think Japanese got it wrong)
@Zelmel
2 ай бұрын
As a counterpoint: katakana is going to be almost entirely useless outside of a handful of words as far as practical things go. Yeah, you can learn toilet, smart phone, karaoke, ramen, and a handful of other things, but hiragana is going to be so much more practically useful most of the time. Romaji is the worst solution, though.
@m8onethousand
Ай бұрын
I mean, if your purpose is learning Japanese, hiragana is 100% more useful. Pretty much all particles are in hiragana, which helps you denote the grammatical function of all words in the sentence and all that. Not to mention, furigana (I don't like using them, but a lot of learners do), and tons of words are written in hiragana. At the end of the day, if your goal is learning Japanese, you should just learn both, which should take you at most a couple of days.
@İnosumir
2 ай бұрын
Mudan If you are going to learn japanese by manga reading the manga called "Yotsuba" more of a better choice. It's easier to understand because you see the world of a 5 year old and It's kind of cute.
@tunedcentral
2 ай бұрын
Try writing them down, the muscle memory helps with memorisation. And if you do them by grouping ie " sa shi su se so" its easy to recall the entire lot by association. Years ago I learned both hiragana and katakana in one day using this method.
@marks150
Ай бұрын
I did this too, though it was because my teacher 12 years ago made us learn all hiragana in one day, followed by katakana the next. We had to come into class the next day knowing them all.
@Sybato
2 ай бұрын
Katakana is for loan words from other languages, not all are english words バイト (part-time job) is from the German word Arbeit (which means work). I recommend learning at least hirgana since most manga use furgiana (the little symbols to the left of kanji) so you can know how to pronounce or look up kanji to know their meaning. The issue with characters not lining up is just like a difference in san serif vs serif fonts, you don't even want to try to read handwritten Japanese (especially by a doctor). Oh the other problem with doing all kana and no kanji is not knowing where each word starts and ends.
@hermdude
2 ай бұрын
This video gave me a little bit of a reprieve of how much I've learnt so far in Japanese, and how much having a pattern recognition skill helps to pick up a totally different language. It became easier for me to read faster in Kanji than in full Hiragana when you know the characters themselves, since when reading you only need to understand the meaning more than how it sounds in the first place. One tip since you've just started reading Hiragana esp reading sentences: は is usually read as "ha", but when reading as a particle (similar to using "is" in English), it's read as "wa" instead. If you can recognise where in the sentence that that would be the case, then you've leveled up greatly.
@cheyennemoore8380
2 ай бұрын
Same.
@Chinny5
2 ай бұрын
MY DAILY OBLIGATIONS: UPLOADED AT 3:30AM WHYYYY AEST , OMG BABE WAKE UP NEW MUDAN VIDEO
@fleetingimmersion
2 ай бұрын
I was pleasantly surprised when I found out that a lot of Katakana letters were almost carbon-copies of their Hiragana variants. On top of that, when I watched the videos and used the apps, they would list over 100 katakana/hiragana, but half of that was combinations of the 46 or so you got in the first half, so it wasn't nearly as hard to learn as I thought it was. My issue is the similar-looking characters, but I think Mudan might not have as much trouble learning Katakana as he thinks he might, since a lot of them are so similar. Frankly, I learned Hiragana largely in 1-2 hours from watching a Japanpod101 video when I was really focusing one time, and that sort of just worked that once. Trying to do the same for Katakana has not fared nearly so well.
@Hawksyboy
2 ай бұрын
Gotta love when you're hoping for a simple font and they hit ya with the Comic Sans. haha I just started myself, it's been fun so far, good luck!
@shinimegami42
2 ай бұрын
The differences in the letters you were seeing is that the one font is closer to brush strokes in structure. I look forward to the realization of how close certain characters are and how painful that can be. ツ vs シ ロ vs 口 stuff like that I find writing notes in kana (even if they don't make sense) or turning on lyrics on Spotify or captions on KZitem and reading along with Japanese songs to help, especially with introducing kanji organically. I use an app called Japanese Dictionary Takoboto to help with identifying new kanji since you can input the pieces of the kanji to search.
@barsx7634
Ай бұрын
oh my fucking god, I went through the shi-tsu pair like half a year ago and I still forget which one is which half the time
@Spedatr0n
2 ай бұрын
Yippee learning with Mudan! Now obligatory ask Day 13 of asking Mudan to go to Bookoff super Bazaar, one of Japan’s biggest thrift stores.
@chachasenri
2 ай бұрын
3:47 I mean, in the Latin alphabet we have for example a vs ɑ and g vs g, so Japanese kana having different appearances in different fonts is not that insane when you think about it.
@zenzone3919
2 ай бұрын
The hiragana & katakana alphabet is basically the same. Same amount of characters & pronunciations just different writing. Katakana is just the writing system used for 'mordern' loan words from other languages like サンドイッチ (Sandoitchi) or サンド (Sando) for short
@elementneon
2 ай бұрын
Katakana evolved to have a character set that supports pronouncing words from other languages. Hiragana evolved as the character set for pronouncing japanese words. And Kanji are symbols created to represent entire words or word-parts. ... More or less.
@SamTheGumMan117
2 ай бұрын
Yotsuba I've heard is a really good manga to help learn Japanese and plus it's a series I love to read anyways
@MelRackley
2 ай бұрын
WAIT NO WAYYYY!!! I also got the Frieren after journey end as my first Japanese manga to study with!!!!! I mean I have lots of Manga but I got this one on ebay from Japan written in hiragana/katakans/kanji.
@MelRackley
2 ай бұрын
YAYYYY NEW VIDEOOOOO! This is part of my routine now lol
@Sbeas19
2 ай бұрын
Kudos to mudan for attempting such a titanic task, some people already gave good advices in the other comments, so I'm going to say something else. Go find Josh the manga lad, he could probably tell you a few tips and MUCH better manga for people wanting to learn the language instead of OPM and Dragon Ball.
@cheyennemoore8380
2 ай бұрын
I second this! I'm surprised he didn't consult him given that Josh learned it overseas by reading manga.
@johnforde7735
2 ай бұрын
Mudan, you need to write them out. That's the best way to learn because the physical act of writing reinforces the shape of the character. Just study a little bit every day and you will get there in a couple of weeks.
@cheyennemoore8380
2 ай бұрын
Yes. I can attest. I've put this into daily practice by drawing them on my phone through an app and it helps me remember them better than just looking did.
@markw1247
2 ай бұрын
There's an RPG that teaches you Hiragana or Katakana called Learn Japanese to Survive.
@DerKommentator98756
2 ай бұрын
In the theme of today's vlog I will say : アルファベットの習得がうまくいくことを祈っています。寺院のスピードランもお忘れなく。Greetings from tuktuk buddy.
@bananaFPS
2 ай бұрын
Try ToKini Andy’s Genki lesson videos! You’ll learn sentence/grammar rules and when reading you will notice patterns easier :)
@booksandocha
2 ай бұрын
You can learn hiragana and katakana pretty easily in a couple of days with repetition, but in my experience you also have to practice writing them at the same time for them to stick in your mind.
@shinimegami42
2 ай бұрын
If you look up stroke order and learn to write them in the right order it'll help tons with reading those different fonts from the manga
@kiiturii
2 ай бұрын
took me 2 days and writing is just a waste of time honestly, you don't need to practice it until much later, unless your goal is to do calligraphy or something it's helpful short-term yes, but in the big picture if you just wanna learn to speak and read fluently, writing everything and focusing on stroke order as you're learning will take up way too much time. I've seen this as one of the biggest reasons people quit learning early on
@gameboyadvancesp2069
2 ай бұрын
Always nice to see mudan upload
@Enjun38
2 ай бұрын
Those minecraft clouds was sharp af
@Zelmel
2 ай бұрын
At 4:00 Mudan learns about fonts. I lol'd. (This is maybe the worst way to learn hiragana, but I get it's for a video. Flash cards to just learn the sound and appearance is honestly the best and easiest way even though it's boring)
@kotokotoko_
2 ай бұрын
ひらがなをべんきょうしてくれてありがとう!つぎの動画(どうが)をみるのをたのしみにしています!
@Die-Coughman
2 ай бұрын
Writing the characters helps you understand the different ways each character can appear.
@OSDisco
2 ай бұрын
It's so comforting to see someone else also get boomed by different fonts
@aelime7093
2 ай бұрын
I recommend 'Yotsuba-to!' as well! Also, I think learning to read hiragana/katakana might be faster with flashcards first? It shouldn't take too long
@fallenpenguin
2 ай бұрын
If it's any consolation, the language course I visited allocated 2-3 weeks for hiragana and katakana...
@malisimulator1315
2 ай бұрын
The minecraft clouds were a nice addition.
@rikkogu
2 ай бұрын
You could also start with a different manga to learn, like Yotsuba! I loved it both because it's actually a good manga, but also it's a very beginner friendly manga with how it's easy to read. 😊
@ValenciaCyn
2 ай бұрын
This makes me appreciate my old jp professors so much. Learning this on your own must be hell.
@toribanashi
2 ай бұрын
Honestly, I’d recommend studying with a flash cards , you’d remember symbols more quickly. Reading furigana in manga is a next step, when you already used to alphabet.
@shellybananas
2 ай бұрын
Manga is hard to read for a beginner. They use made up words sometimes and it’s written vertically 😂 I suggest you read story books for babies/kids. You can get them for dirt cheap in book off and the stories are actually kinda interesting.
@Sybato
2 ай бұрын
Especially when they do stuff like the Blue Eyes White Dragon where they use kanji and then just use katakana to make the kanji be read as it would in English "青眼の白龍 // ブルーアイズ・ホワイト・ドラゴン"
@user-vv7pz7hf1j
2 ай бұрын
use the heisig method its the easiest one to learn the kana and kanji as well .. and shounen is not the best option for beginners go with kids stuff like doraemon first less kanji, less complicated stuff. shonen is for highschool students... my prof told me that from grade 1 till highschool pupils know in avarage of 40k words as an adults its 60k ... compared to english where 30 is the highest english proficiancy
@Ducklordess
2 ай бұрын
wow, you did really well for only doing it for one day. Keep it up :)
@antisal4192
2 ай бұрын
If you really wanna study japanese. Use the genki books. They're helpful af
@Gryphus3
2 ай бұрын
Hi Mudan, a long time ago, I used the book "Remembering the Kana" to learn both of the simple alphabets in a few hours. I rarely read any Japanese anymore, but I can still read both of the basic alphabets. I'm sure there are other techniques to learning them efficiently, but I really recommend using a system, instead of brute-forcing it.
@NameTaag
2 ай бұрын
2:20 On the Price: Im from Germany and the average Manga (so kind of the same size as in Japan) costs about 7,50€ to 8,00€, with Translation and licensing costs it's pretty ok. If the manga coms in a big format though its about 10,00€ to 12,00€ and if its a Manhwa (Korean) with Full Color it will be 14,00€ to 18,00€. Not as sheep as in Japan of course, but translation and licensing add to the cost, plus paper and ink cost may be different in Europe.
@user-vv7pz7hf1j
2 ай бұрын
words like kirameku is n2/n1 stuff which you find in novels... say to chat gpt that it should generate a senctene for primary school pupils
@ImKyleConway
2 ай бұрын
Redo with LivaKivi
@hoongfu
2 ай бұрын
Very cool! Neat experiment, I think you made amazing progress in a day. I'm not sure if I could do that in a week. Anyways don't forget visit Hirata swordsmith and schedule an appt to learn how to forge a knife!
@SmallCatto
Ай бұрын
I did find a lot of places in Tokyo use a lot of katakana, so it might be worth giving that a shot and seeing if that helps at all. The other advantage is that katakana is mostly just English but broken up into Japanese phonetics, so you should be able to understand most of it
@mario08133
2 ай бұрын
I love that his thumbnail and title moved
@TheToneBender
2 ай бұрын
Manga in the netherlands is like 11 or 12 euro per volume (standard volume size at least)
@MelRackley
2 ай бұрын
I TOTALLY get the cheap manga surprise! The one I got off ebay from Northern Japan was like $3 freakin bucks when changed from Yen. And yes, I did pay this person $30 in total with shipping I COULDNT FIND IT ANYWHEREEEEEEE
@jessiewionzek4832
2 ай бұрын
I really like the Maru Kana app for practicing hiragana and katakana! I found the easiest way to learn them is literally just writing them over and over (Daiso should have some good practice books). I also learned them from reading & writing character's names (like Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura) because they're a) simple and b) share some of the same characters between names (like sa in Sakura/Sasuke). ALSO! The reason the symbols look different from your poster & the manga is because it's basically a different font, the fancier looking one in the manga is like a serif font (Times New Roman/etc) and shows how you'd write as if you're using a calligraphy brush, while the post is more like a sans serif font (Arial/etc). Also also - I dislike the hiragana sheets with all the extra rows for kya, shya, hya, etc because they're too visually overwhelming. All of those are literally just the normal sound + ya/yu/yo/etc. If you see a small hiragana/katakana character next to a bigger one (not beside it!!) you just combine the sounds, so if you can just memorize the basics and remember this rule you'll be ok :) Ganbatte Mudan!
@pip4183
2 ай бұрын
Gah, damn, Mudan.
@tanmaykulkarni_
2 ай бұрын
I know you didn't ask for tips but here it is, learn few letter then learn words from those few letters which you can use daily e.g you learn hiragana 'a' & 'ka' now you can write the word 'aka' which is red
@Big-Wonka
2 ай бұрын
3:55 missed opportunity to say "yeah, but....nahhhh"
@Mobik_
2 ай бұрын
Wait until Mudan learns.... that's it, that was the sentence. BTW, Dragon Ball is a nice manga to start reading Japanese... BUT it uses TONS of informal and kid-like Japanese. Goku uses a LOT of "け" ending adjectives like kids do. Katakana is used for foreign words, most of them come from English and is how it sounds but in Japanese syllables. The main thHAVE YOU CONSIDERED SPEED RUNNING EVERY SINGLE TEMPLE IN TOKYO?!
@TaffyCinnamon
2 ай бұрын
When I was learning Japanese, Dragonball manga was surprisingly easy to ready.
@inevitabledev6188
2 ай бұрын
use a Mnemonics' system to find symbols in the letters like あ has a little 'A' hidden in it.
@user-vv7pz7hf1j
2 ай бұрын
learn katakana too to read your menu at restaurants
@devdath2957
2 ай бұрын
Nice
@rileyninja9733
2 ай бұрын
In this episode, mudan learns that Japanese has different fonts, just like every other language
@JT-be7zi
2 ай бұрын
あなたの動画をいつも楽しみにしています。
@azahel542
2 ай бұрын
I live in France and I buy japanese manga, in japanese, for 10 bucks. Sure it's not 3 dollars, but it's not 14 either.
@StripeHusky
2 ай бұрын
Learning by reading is a fun idea, but I strongly recommend writing the characters out as a significant part of learning them. Having both input and output of characters helps build those pathways much more effectively. Katakana upset me when I started reading because I had been told it would be just for loan-words, but in reality, Katakana is frequently used in writing to break up words that might otherwise blend together due to Japan's refusal to adopt the space bar. To try reading Manga, I think you'd probably want to already know a couple of thousand words, all hiragana and katakana, and some grammar. To save your eyes, knowing the 100 most common kanji would probably be good, because squinting at the mini-kana next to every kanji will hurt! Another thing that helps a lot is knowing some common phrases and interjections, because even if you use Translate, seeing a character say "it's different" hits different than transliterating it to "you don't understand!" or "it's not what you think!"
@Ray-eo4fm
2 ай бұрын
Tofugu's guide is a great way to start
@MrTartuVaim
2 ай бұрын
Ja tee üks video Yukio Mishimast.
@shaneshane7514
2 ай бұрын
get good mudan
@PatientC
2 ай бұрын
Day 40 of asking Mudan to start in a random area of tokyo and compete with babysitter and foxie to see who can find the most small hidden shrines in the backalleys and rooftops of tokyo in a day!
@lushfruit
2 ай бұрын
Day 76 of asking Mudan to speedrun nearly every main temple in Tokyo pwease ! How about go to every temple and learn Kanji from some Temple Seals hehe
@ormet_altf4
2 ай бұрын
i scrolled down just to like this lmao
@lushfruit
2 ай бұрын
@@ormet_altf4 I appreciate you very much
@Ray-eo4fm
2 ай бұрын
@@ormet_altf4 Same
@andymarshall7621
2 ай бұрын
If you watch an episode of anime you've seen a billion times and then read the manga it helps a lot too! I knew hiragana from school, but it helped with kanji, grammar and reading speed. Also writing the kanji you don't recognize a hundred times, classic Chinese school tactic...
@rissole_dot_exe
2 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure i understand most them Hiraganas. If not all them, Katakana's which i still i have to practice remembering them, as they can be hard sometimes. As for Kanji, some of the N5's i do remember. It does really help me understand some sentences it better, but still depends on context though-
@rufioh
2 ай бұрын
Tbf with English there are 26 characters x2, because upper and lower case (and a few extra characters in other European languages too). So learning 46 hiragana and 46 katakana characters should be doable, but one day seems crazy fast. I’m pretty sure it takes a lot longer to learn the English alphabet, but maybe it only takes that long when you’re a small child?
@therapist2852
2 ай бұрын
as someone who is currently in japan for internship, i only prepared by memorised hiragana and katakana. it has been useless :D luckily im only here for 5 months so im pretty much living as a tourist with extra steps
@jannis11
2 ай бұрын
naiCE
@MrPraktiskais
2 ай бұрын
Video editor rants about Japanese characters having multiple typefaces
@FOGoticus
Ай бұрын
Mad respect for trying to learn japanese. I love japan but I will never go down that route.
@rqwb-
2 ай бұрын
The shape of the character makes sense if you use your body and write it down, with proper stroke order, it's like a good dance. You can buy writing notebook for elementary school children, and it's the best way. And just do katakana, like other people say.
@TheLastCrankers
2 ай бұрын
As someone actually looking to start learning, I'd appreciate pointers how to actually start (other than duolingo)
@Eiden01234
Ай бұрын
look up the moe way guide on google. pretty good way to start
@Hammerstrike81
2 ай бұрын
Mudan could have edited 14 videos in the time it took to read two chapters of One Punch Man. Sheesh. Thanks, fella~! What sorts of wacky things will he get up to tomorrow?
@chibilume
2 ай бұрын
who else noticed the minecraft sky
@timer.-.6148
2 ай бұрын
2:14 Où as-tu acheté le manga ???? Je n'ai jamais vu de manga à 14€....
@zoinked1351
2 ай бұрын
You gotta read monogatari
@am53n8
2 ай бұрын
One day I'll learn japanese. Today is once again not that day
@Elizabeth29
2 ай бұрын
Try writing the characters, that actually helped me learn them a lot faster!
@wahduck
2 ай бұрын
Can I Learn How To Read Japanese in a Day (in a completely wrong way) pick up kodmo manga instead of shonen
@tempesttube
2 ай бұрын
3:56 missed opportunity to say "naaaa".
@Mobik_
2 ай бұрын
Dragon Ball takes me 6 hours to read 200 pages. But I had your issue of 16min per page in the past.
@wekkimeif7720
2 ай бұрын
Would expect that if you want to go to Japan you would know the basics of Japan... Like how the culture is and how the language works and so on. But once again it seems you don't have really interest in it :D First thing for me planning trip to Japan was to look out how the language is and how to learn it and learn it. I can understand why Japanese are sometimes frustrated that people come there and seem to not have interest in how things work there.
@TheBismrk
2 ай бұрын
The different fonts for the characters messed me up at first
@cheyennemoore8380
2 ай бұрын
Did my boy just try leaning to read in another language by using high school level books? Yes, yes he did. Did he also do it without understanding katakana are borrowed words from other languages (primarily English), yes yes he did. Or studying hiragana, which takes Japanese children until middle school to have a basic understanding of? Yes, yes he did. Did I just watch this Trainwreck, yes, yes I did.
@Mic_Mike
2 ай бұрын
Hiragana is used for japanese words and Katakana for foreign words but it is the same syllabs that you find in both. I just started learning japanese ans even though I now know all the hiragana, I can't read anything in japanese and translate it... one step at à time I guess...
@xertz_346
Ай бұрын
yo yo, as someone who basically learnt hiragana this way in primary school, i must say it is probably one of the worst ways of learning it lol. I remember when i was a kid I always made mistakes in hiragana and was never really confident whereas when i got older and learnt katakana i literally just went over flashcards for half an hour and i could read it ever since. So if you do actually wanna take this seriously, DONT LEARN THIS WAY because it will just increase your own uncertainty (from my own experience).
@Izzarah806
2 ай бұрын
Can't skip the duolingo grind
@dafo446
2 ай бұрын
can't wait for him to rage at katakana
@AngelVids7
2 ай бұрын
Oh goodness… I tried learning hirigana and then realized I didn’t know enough vocabulary to read. Then I realized most written stuff is a mix of Hirigana and Katakana… then I gave up and went back to French.
@jesse8694
2 ай бұрын
you gotta start with the kids manga and books first my guy. You're trying to run a marathon before you can walk lol
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