I play pc2 more than ACC and AMS2. It‘s fully featured and is so much more enjoyable experience.
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
From the look of things to come I think a lot of us might be playing Forza Motorsport more than anything else soon.
@RogueBeatsARG
Ай бұрын
Yeah cause it has more Game to it, yk things to do
@AceRacingRocks
10 ай бұрын
❤ Still loving Project Cars 2 ❤ enjoyed the comparison
@kevbarber
Жыл бұрын
Hi. I had many great times with PC2. I also grew to really like the original AC on console. Even without mods and slightly plainer graphics than PC2, it's got about 180 cars of all types so plenty to entertain and challenge you.
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
I think the variety of car classes is second to none on console… no other titles has such a variety.
@AcidDrop_67
Жыл бұрын
How you get mods only on PC
@kevbarber
Жыл бұрын
@@AcidDrop_67 say again?
@1gpasko
Жыл бұрын
The biggest advantage to running PC2 on a PC is using the custom FFB, especially the latest PopsRacer FFB… I wish there was a way to implement that onto the consoles.
@bartvy
5 ай бұрын
And VR… this game is something special in VR.
@JPKelly-xr7tr
Жыл бұрын
Excellent Content! I have 1000+ hours in PC2. After getting ACC I continued to play it (and still do). ACC is obviously a better simulation but has always felt sterile to me while PC2 has an immersive feel that pulls you right in. At this point it comes down to using your time wisely: I've given up on ACC. I'm not going to waste my free time coping with updates that don't work and actually create additional issues. The 'just buy a PC' tag line is the ultimate strawman argument. That some recommend buying hardware as a workaround for a product that is already produced for Console Gaming is ridiculous.
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
Great points all round J.P I agree… not sure what content I’ll be looking at when I’m back home but I’m sure something will pop up.
@mystdeisanto9647
Жыл бұрын
I love PC2. The most beautiful and immersive racing game imo. You should try Automobilista 2.
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
Sure will… if I ever buy a pc that is 😉
@curtisharolson6643
Жыл бұрын
I actually like PC2 a lot, I don’t see why they get so bad a rep
@sandroinocencio1623
Жыл бұрын
Because ffb is 💩
@imakestuffhere
Жыл бұрын
PC2 understeers too much. Not bite on the front compared with other sims.
@AndorFazekas
13 күн бұрын
Because the car physics was wrong. Many people think the PC1 and 2 was excelent simulator (or the nfs shift the predecessors), but this is absolutly unreal. I like every single type of racing games, but this game physics was unacceptable. Realistic driving style is not working.
@NoOne-cg7bq
Жыл бұрын
Thanks For Sharing. I enjoy PC2 one of my 1st Sims on console using my CSW 2.5 but as you say it's definitely different. I must say & we all know the hate for PC3 but personally I love the new feel & once given some time it's very acceptable to race hard even with the removal of tyres & pits . The huge problem I think is that 1st intro race that killed it for most but persist & it's very rewarding. I love now the modifications that can now be done on the vehicles plus having Dodge now was a huge win . If your a true wheel man I'm sure given some time you'll appreciate PC3 for what it is as much as the older PC2 . All the best buddy.
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
There's more chance of me buying a pc then ever trying PC3 I'm afraid. I just cannot bring myself to drive something so simcade. But... if you enjoy it go for it.. I loved Forza Horizon 4 but haven't played much on FH 5 due to it's location.
@supercededman
Жыл бұрын
I started 3 years ago on PC2, thought it the bees knees. In my ignorance I thought the physics were good. Perhaps I might give PC3 a try!
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
Don’t… just try ACC and you’ll realise the physics in pc2 aren’t great.
@Pearson04
Жыл бұрын
Hi I agree with you that if you port a game to console it should work properly,no excuses.Untold games port it,they need to find some pride in their jobs and finally give us the game we have all paid for.
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it’s not like it’s not doable, I’m just not sure they have the skills to do it.
@martingondol886
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you. The graphics in PC2 are much nicer, it even seems to me that the handling and feedback of the vehicles is handled very well after the settings. There are more setting options in PC2. Too bad those car sounds. They could have been more realistic. I play it on PS5 and there you need to adjust the brightness enough so that the image is not dark. In ACC, it's currently raining a lot after the update and you can't play the graphics of the wheels outside the fenders and the rain is terrible. The game does not have time to render and render. PC2 thumbs up for me. Otherwise, a wonderful review.
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
Cheers Martin… hopefully you can enjoy pc2 during the time the developers get their heads around fixing ACC… all the best bud 👍🏼
@Armageddon991
Жыл бұрын
I've been playing pc2 for 4 years and even after i bought acc, i still play the shit out of this game
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
Good to hear it… I’m looking forward to revisiting a few of the old classics 👍🏼
@Armageddon991
Жыл бұрын
@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 exactly 🙏💜
@chilli-soup
Жыл бұрын
It's the ACC hangover 🤣 Back to PC2 with good ole Crew Chief, i only race PC2 old skool groups with gear stick and FM7 with assists off exept ABS. Tbh ive never left inbetween ACC but as a content creator and our Xbox sim master i understand why you had to move on👍
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
I guess you’ve got to draw a line in the sand at some point and find something that actually works. I’ll be back on ACC at some point but who knows when the game will actually work floorlessly or if it ever will??
@chilli-soup
Жыл бұрын
@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 ACC feels so good, the ffb strength is not the best but it's like 10 pints, next day never again until the next time.
@Senfzwelch
Жыл бұрын
Hi! Nice Video, I like PC2 still so much. It feels great and looks amazing.
@robbo5932
Жыл бұрын
The original Assetto Corsa is by far superior in physics and FFB to both ACC and Project Cars on console . It's just my opinion, but if you've tried AC you can make your own mind up . Gamer Muscle has AC as the best physics and FFB , of all racing sims . Still putting out great videos Jay . Well done 👏
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
Cheers buddy… I really need to revisit AC on console as the last time it took up place in my console was on the One X. I’m yet to try AC on the series X to see if it performs better. Although as I’ve mentioned many times before ACC’s FFB is brilliant on the 2.5v Fanatec base. It always has been even since day 1. I still run the FFB at about 45% what the base is capable of.
@supercededman
Жыл бұрын
@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 The 2.5v Fanatec base? I have the DD Pro.
@kimmorautama7443
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, thanks for a nice comparison! Very much agree that the FFB is sometimes weird in PC2. I guess the major issue with PC2 is the force feedback; that has rightfully been the key message in many cases. The sad truth is that this is especially true with the GT3 cars, which seem to get most interest. My simracing career started with PC2, and probably the FFB was the reason why I never enjoyed them in PC2. From the GT3s that I have really tried, probably the ones that were the most logical to drive, were the Renault and Lambo. I have only recently gotten to grips with the Ferrari. It is quick, but as the FFB is very rubbery and provides no info about the back of the car, it is easy to overdrive and almost impossible to save. But luckily this is not the case with all cars and classes. Overall, I feel the Porsches and Renaults seem usually to provide nice FFB, they are the two makes that I have had most fun with. Keep up the good work with your channel, let's hope ACC will be fixed soon!
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
Many interesting points I’ll have to look back at some of my old PC2 videos as I remember doing a whole series on GT3 cars and the plus/minuses of each car. Might be worth a watch but I think I’d enjoy driving something totally different. I used to love driving the 2 Nascars at Longbeach or Indianapolis. Thanks for the comment Kimmo 👍🏼
@kimmorautama7443
Жыл бұрын
@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 I guess Renault Clio is one of the best things in PC2... the same as what MX-5 is in iRacing. It is still popular in many leagues. And FWD is something that is not available in all sims, they require totally different way of driving. The FFB for Clio is not the strongest but I think it still gives you a good idea of what the car is doing. From the GT family, I find the Ford GT LM GTE also a very good drive.
@sim_racing_pops1675
Жыл бұрын
Use that setup on my pc2 pc version man it’s great . Had a good blast on pc2
@Fred_Erasmus
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, nice seeing the comparison. I struggle with a weird sudden oversteer. Not sure if its a setting or my driving style :-) Have you ever tried Dirt Rally 2 or dare I day F1 series. Might help fill the void and wait. Happy festive season!!
@DoctorRevers
Жыл бұрын
I had a great time in pc2 as well. Was expecting an AMS2 port over to console. Maybe that’s still coming but haven’t heard anything lately. Could be later on when AMS2 is all fleshed out and polished. (The lack of connection to the track was my big issue with pc2 in the end. Bought acc for this reason and agree it could use some work on console)
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
I’m sure I’ve already read details on AMS 3 arriving on console in the future.
@mad-b264
Жыл бұрын
I have uploaded PC2 vids, I prefer the open wheelers, The Radical, I loves the car.... Open wheelers are a great way of learning a track by the way little tip, lol........ Its a tough little game PC2, You will gain sim skills on this game.... I think either AMS2 or RaceRoom, One of them use the same FFB but refined a lot more, AMS2 i think coz come to think of it, It took me an hour to get the Nordsliefe my Fav track.... I got some great times on the Nordsliefe, Purple most the time now....
@orsingaorsinga
Жыл бұрын
Hi Jay, I made this video to respond to your comment about the FFB in Project Cars 2 in this video kzitem.info/news/bejne/mq6IvmWugGqri6wfeature=shared After proper tuning, i actually find PC2 FFB provides more details than ACC. I checked this on Fanatec DD1 and Logitech G920 and the results are the same. Quite shocking to myself as it goes against my knowledge of these 2 games...
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
It’s been a long long time since I’ve played PC2… I cannot go back to the game after ACC… it’s almost undriveable for me.
@orsingaorsinga
Жыл бұрын
@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 if this is about the connection between the car and the driver I will strongly recommend you watch from 20:30 of my video, grab the parameters and take a GT3 car for a spin.... it will tell everything by itself.
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
I’ll have a watch when I’m in a position to… I’m currently away on holiday and just resting my shoulder after a recent injection to reduce some inflammation. 👍🏼
@chilli-soup
Жыл бұрын
I had an update yesterday evening, tried it safternoon but still crashing. Is there any update/patch notes?
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I’ve seen no details anywhere for the new patch details.
@sergeantstormball9008
11 ай бұрын
PC2 is a much better experience in vr than it is without its more fleshed out that way
@johnmann7o2
Жыл бұрын
With pops racer ffb, feels almost as good as rfactor 2. Play on yaw2 motion rig and DD wheel. Also rfactor2 ffb >AC >ACC
@RypienGT
Жыл бұрын
Hope not, its superior already.
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
I’d disagree.
@MrMikap74
Жыл бұрын
My CLS DD is recognized as Thrustmaster TX on PC2, and the ffb is terrible. Too bad, loved it when I stil had my G920.
@sickgit66
Жыл бұрын
I struggle getting any feel in the wheel with PC2, It felt great with my old T150, but when that died I replaced it with a G29, ACC felt better but PC2 was giving me nothing back and I stopped playing it, I'll have a good watch of this video later, hopefully someone who knows what they're doing can get me enjoying the game again, I loved the two long time trial sections and had loads of fun in the radicals on the short circuits. Thanks in advance.
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
I’m not saying this game is amazing and it’s a stark contrast from ACC to Project Cars 2 when it comes to detail through the wheel. But I’ve still found it enjoyable this morning and will no doubt return to it if ACC continues to have issues in the coming year.
@billliu3154
Жыл бұрын
The key is to keep the Tone and FX setting both very low. Otherwise the feedback will saturate and cover the tyre grip feel. I am using 100/42/12/10
@lincolnklayvr
Жыл бұрын
ACC dashboarding on Xbox appears to be fixed , you going back?
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
I’ll be back if it’s fixed but I’m away working till January so I’ve got a while yet before I’m back making any content for the channel 👍🏼
@lincolnklayvr
Жыл бұрын
@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 I'll be on the lookout and see what you think when you get back
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
@@lincolnklayvr cheers bro… fingers crossed it’ll not disappoint and we can all do some racing again.
@RogueBeatsARG
Ай бұрын
ACC? make it feel like the og AC
@Luebke2773
Жыл бұрын
I like it, but not good to steer with controller. Much better in ACC
@Coast2CoastTuber
11 ай бұрын
Why can’t you play ACC?
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
11 ай бұрын
I can now… this video is nearly a year old… at the time the game constantly crashed
@billliu3154
Жыл бұрын
Hi, Clearly you need calibration of the force feedback. I got this impression when you mention you can't feel what the car is doing. That is a sign of improper wheel calibration. The default setting by PCars2 is terrible. Just like every other car it offers, it needs to be fine tuned with FFB telemetry display to ensure the tyre motion is not being overwhelmed by FX or Tone settings. This is a very tricky job and requires a few try and fail before anything starts making sense. It is also noteworthy that the FFB tuning help in PCars2 is also misleading. Many were fooled by the help words to turn "Tone" higher, trying to get the tyre motion. The reality is that when the value is higher than a certain limit, your wheel starts to ignore all the fine details and just react on big turn forces. So really you need to start with mid volume, 0 in tone and 0 in FX, then start with a small tone to find the fine limit of tyre motion before it is overwhelmed. Then slowly increase FX to get your final value for realistic handling.
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
I think after years and years on pc2 I’m pretty happy with the FFB… I doubt that’s the main factor it doesn’t feel anything like ACC. Thanks for the comment though and for all those new to the game they’re very good points you raised 👍🏼
@billliu3154
Жыл бұрын
@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 Because FFB quality is very subjective, I can only provide the following checklist for you. All following items needs to be provided by PCars2 FFB at the same time. If any missing, it may mean there is room for improvement. Remember, all need to be provided at the same time. Try them on a reasonable track and a reasonable Car. I use Road America and MB E190 2.5EVO . 1. Mid and Large bumps on the road 2. Tyre Grip should cause wheel to be heavy to turn at the beginning 3. when tyre is marginally losing grip in a corner, wheel wobbles 4. when you are about to lose tyre grip in a turn, wheel becomes lighter. As your grip condition change, the weight on the wheel also change 5. if you run on the track side panels, your tyre should pull your wheel 6. If you brake hard and your tyres are about to lose grip on a straight lane, your wheel should wobble slightly and feel light 7. If the car jumps and one front wheel lands first, your tyre should pull your wheel 8. you feel all bounces caused by road surface and tyre losing/regain grip in a corner. All the above should be clearly reflected in the FFB on the XBOX, which you don't need to guess. Albeit not necessarily as crisp as ACC. If any is missing, my recommendation is to fine tune your FFB in PCars 2, because the default setting is just a pile of filth.
@Mr.Grumps565
Жыл бұрын
Can you test on xbox one? With a wheel
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
I do use an Xbox but it’s the series X…. There’s no way I’d go back to try either game on the old console. At some point you’ve just got to move with the times.
@Mr.Grumps565
Жыл бұрын
@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 yeah last time I had played force feedback just felt severely under whelming especially when compared to the first assetto corsa and project cars 1
@stephenmciver4268
Жыл бұрын
You say you can use crew chief how do you do that ? I'm with you on acc so disappointed
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
Just connect it via a tablet… I’m sure somewhere within my Project Cars tips and tricks playlist there will be a guide to using apps with project cars 2
@stephenmciver4268
Жыл бұрын
Thank you I shall hunt through and find 😂
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this covers the use of a tablet. kzitem.info/news/bejne/mmuC04N-qqJorXY
@stephenmciver4268
Жыл бұрын
@@jaysysumakaRatMaster3 thank you I have found that didn't realise that works on Xbox thank you again
@edwhalley5
Жыл бұрын
Turn world movement to 100
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
Nice one I’ll give it a try when I’m back home 👍🏼
@andypritchard7082
Жыл бұрын
Why did you choose pc2 over ac
@jaysysumakaRatMaster3
Жыл бұрын
Because it works so much better, it has a huge range of areas to choose, time trial, special events, career, multiplayer… and so many car groups. AC is more like a demo on console.
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