*WORKING ON PART 2 COUGH-SURPLUS-COUGH* DISCORD: discord.gg/nkRNgBm PS. Mods like dex, perks like snapshot, Dragon’s shadow... all stack with QuickDraw. Then Ophidians however does NOT stack with QD because those gauntlets add ~35 handling to BOTH weapons. So if you have QD on your shotgun for example, ophidians doesn’t help shotgun but DOES help the other weapon.
@prawnk1ng
3 жыл бұрын
If QD gets removed ? Don’t jinx it. 🤦♂️
@ironknucklen64
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this breakdown. So much work, but trust me its truly appreciated.
@shanebaxter5038
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Reddit brought me here.
@bryandimaio9704
3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about Pulse Monitor!
@angelray6123
3 жыл бұрын
So does handling essentially become obsolete with quickdraw?
@Th3Jez
3 жыл бұрын
I'm subbing purely from the effort you put into this video wow
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Is that a wild legend I see 👀
@Finny7873
3 жыл бұрын
No, its a wild meme lord that has a 12 inch shlong
@brunomartinez5757
3 жыл бұрын
Jez but not jez but actually jez :0
@nathanbrown995
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@sunofabob
3 жыл бұрын
I'm with this guy
@rellimck
3 жыл бұрын
Rigorous. I don't usually comment on any videos I watch but you deserve praise for your diligence in all this testing. Thanks.
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rellimck! 🧡
@cach_dies
3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself
@bryantosei3051
3 жыл бұрын
these tests are everything. thank you SOOO much. for someone that missed out on the quickdraw astral, this knowledge will be huge for me
@JR-xn6yu
3 жыл бұрын
Throw my salad around. 😏😏
@dalx21
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video my dude. Very informative. I started to main in Dragon’s shadow in Forsaken, so I knew that it had many hidden benefits/perks, but I didn’t to what extant it effected handling. That is unbelievable, especially considering the added +50 mobility, reloading all weapons and allow hunter’s to use the superior movement dodge. This is crazy top tier exotic. Glad more people are starting to realize how dominant this thing can be.
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt!
@0DeathTheKid15
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative and straight to the point. Amazing Video. I appreciate that you dont spend the first 5 Minutes to tell us how "Amazing, OP an Game breaking" this info is like a lot of other content creators on YT.
@GuadalupeF.Arredondo
3 жыл бұрын
Quickdraw to aggressive shotguns is what backup plan was to high impact fusions. It completely eliminates the one weakness they truly have. It's gotta catch a nerf, but preferably just on shotguns.
@thesneakerflip1200
3 жыл бұрын
New to the channel but loving the content and the in-depth analysis you make. Awesome and glad this popped up on my recommended vids. Keep the content coming and awesome work on the detail you put into your videos
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you!
@kouguy8213
3 жыл бұрын
I can’t understand why people aren’t using the kinetic Slug Shot Blashamer over the Chaperone? The curated roll has QuickDraw/Opening Shot/accurized rounds/89 Range and you can put an Icuras Mod on it? Plus it’s not an EXOTIC so you can pair it up with another exotic weapon! I got two curated rolls to drop in the last week! It’s so easy to get!
@J.D....
3 жыл бұрын
not enough range to reliably compete with spread shotguns. Chaperone is more forgiving that way.
@kouguy8213
3 жыл бұрын
@@J.D.... Chaperone has terrible in air accuracy plus it doesn’t have quick draw nor can you put an Icuras mod on it. Plus slug shotgun are capped at a certain range.
@SvenPeppers
3 жыл бұрын
Chaperone can still out range it but icarus is nice. It's just a trade off. Aim assist on chaperone is crazy too
@kouguy8213
3 жыл бұрын
@@SvenPeppers Range is capped on Slug shot guns so you’re wrong about the range.
@kouguy8213
3 жыл бұрын
@@ericporter3688 I got it on my first try and my brother got it on his second try. I then got it again on my fourth run. Must just be RNG.
@italianterror3329
3 жыл бұрын
Extremely useful information. Really enjoyed listening to this, and you got a sub too. You went over my exact scenario I got the Hammer with quick draw and rampage but my astral has threat detector opening shot with full choke and assault mag. I started playing around with these mods and pretty much came to the same conclusion that having quick draw on the primary can help the shotgun tremendously. And pretty much go with the setup you explained with the shotgun targeting and shotgun dexterity mods on and I get pretty close to using a normal kinetic hand Cannon and a fell Winters. It can even feel a little faster if I have multiple players surrounding me and can get multiple stacks of threat detector.
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback bro I appreciate that
@cerritus2171
3 жыл бұрын
*Christ* dude, this is *dedication.* Props on the video, so much effort put into this.
@Mwblodgett89
3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos breaking down perks and how they affect gameplay I’ve ever seen. Easy to understand and covered all your bases. 10/10
@evilpac2327
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, your work is impressive. Thanks for doing this. Is amazing how we are looking for those fractions of seconds as an advantage. Is so small, yet noticiable. I wonder if quick access sling has the same effect as quickdraw. It seems so, even though is much more situational (and basically really useful for bows), so clearly quickdraw is much better.
@justinworkman5482
3 жыл бұрын
GLs, rockets. 3v3 HCxSniper. Quick access sling has its uses.
@scofozo
3 жыл бұрын
the effort to find this information is amazing, you're a champ dude I hope you get a lot of recognition for this
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Damn that’s kind of you bro thank you!
@dejavu4997
3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, great job. Super impressed at the time and energy you spent at figuring this out. Really appreciate how well you condensed the info into a video worth watching.
@seasonsep2148
3 жыл бұрын
bro honestly thank you for taking the time, this video is actually so helpful. liked, subscribed, & commented. edit: didnt realize dragon shadow was that crazy. definitely running that now
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you for the feedback! I appreciate it.
@blwilli3
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, great consideration taken on evaluating different cases.
@Dandori_Issues
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. You put in a ton of work and it shows! Looks like I gotta get good with Dragons Shadow!
@loganadept6160
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Glad I got this in my recommended. More content like this in the future please!
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Let me know if any of my other vids resonate as well, working on a bit of a roadmap of content 👍
@loganadept6160
3 жыл бұрын
@@CastleContent watched your jav-4 tips, the in depth quality was great there too. I think the length was appropriate, and the visuals were helpful. If that could be a weekly series, that’d be awesome!
@Scoobyfoo1
3 жыл бұрын
I love nothing more than number-heavy videos. Bravo my dude, this was a treat.
@chunkyrabbit1032
3 жыл бұрын
I never used an astral with quickdraw because the roll I have is slideshot and opening shot which feels good enough for me. Amazing vid as well
@FindStoicism
3 жыл бұрын
beautiful video, I've made reddit posts about the effects of perks on handling but I still learned a lot
@Themidamultitool
3 жыл бұрын
I always tell people to get quickdraw on both their primary and secondary, it's such a huge difference in swap speed
@ltmentle5293
3 жыл бұрын
Well... this video has even more meaning ever since the Twab lol
@maxcrss2845
3 жыл бұрын
Take QuickDraw off of aggressive shotguns and replace it with QuickGrip, a new perk that acts like QuickDraw on shotguns but also increases the pellet spread, removing the benefits of using QuickDraw at range but keeping it useful for close range panic situations. :)
@harryli6632
3 жыл бұрын
Insane testings. I have the exact scenario where I have a qd igneous hammer and a god roll astral without qd(slide shot opening shot). I run ophidian and one shotgun dx mod. It still feels kinda sluggish to be honest.
@Fiwimo
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, fantastic testing! Love the spreadsheets too haha
@sumit3506
3 жыл бұрын
Mans from the future
@daniellamb6462
3 жыл бұрын
As someone who constantly looks for quickdraw substitutes this video is amazing!
@jayemosh
3 жыл бұрын
So what you’re telling me is I should run QD on everything. Fantastic video
@mansfaye1084
3 жыл бұрын
incredibly well done work.
@walkeronegaming
3 жыл бұрын
oh man, you just got a sub. sorry I hadn't heard of you before today but this was really helpful. guess I'll get that qd bottom dollar I vaulted
@Moycep
3 жыл бұрын
castle your video is great but i swear i was just watching your game play the whole time.😂
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Hey whatever helps me groowwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!! Lol
@srikar1726
3 жыл бұрын
Same he’s too good at the game
@SteaksForCakes
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this Video awesome work castle man
@alexlessard4794
3 жыл бұрын
Really helpfull thank you and great work !!!
@martijn769
3 жыл бұрын
The amount of work you put in this one video... Damn. Thank you.
@krishna2094
3 жыл бұрын
So much work here, it is bananas
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
🍌🍌🍌
@InfinityLegend24
3 жыл бұрын
This video earned you a sub
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
🙌🙌🙌
@coletereck7810
3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Maybe test out threat detector. I was trying out threat detector and quick charge and it was a pretty quick swap
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Ya workin on part 2 now haha
@siva9422
3 жыл бұрын
To make this video short: Surplus
@Trumpetboy331
3 жыл бұрын
and this is exactly why i main dragon shadow
@hunterpoor2536
3 жыл бұрын
SAY IT SAY... "SUNSHOT"
@SnappleSmith
3 жыл бұрын
Is anyone gonna discuss that snipe with the stasis super while the dude was behind him
@NuxHck
3 жыл бұрын
Very valuable info due to todays TWAB
@khamok6916
3 жыл бұрын
God tier content
@Bakedad
3 жыл бұрын
They confirmed a felwinters nerf
@Gjerda
3 жыл бұрын
Super informative!
@thebuildsmith4761
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video solid content
@hieuhoang-hihahiho
3 жыл бұрын
subcribed, like and comment
@FrostyFin
3 жыл бұрын
Having the new Astral is like having the less valuable print of a rare Pokemon card.
@Nuck-Fo0bZz
3 жыл бұрын
Bungie is commented more than once that they will be tuning felwinter's lie shortly so, all ye Felwinters crutch bros beware. This is one of the maybe 4 weapons I hope they Nerf into the fucking round
@brakeson3515
3 жыл бұрын
surplus adds a lot of handling to your weapon whenever you have all of your abilities charged. on an Astral, this can easily replace quickdraw
@Silencers
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the hard work. You earned a fresh sub from me!
@skinkolaf
3 жыл бұрын
its called threat detector toil :)
@roohni2226
3 жыл бұрын
how about pulsewave and tempered metal?
@dekay1428
3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah that nerf to Felwinters is coming that someday is soon my peoples
@skatcat31
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they need to fix quickdraw so it stops affecting ads speed and stow speed and only affects draw speed... Like... It sounds like it should...
@skatcat31
3 жыл бұрын
And then we get more diversity
@superrobotwars
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video.
@MMMo-vt1jh
3 жыл бұрын
Really wish synthos had an inherent handling buff like ophidian.
@darthnater6204
3 жыл бұрын
Surplus does the game pretty much 😂
@Mikoto_Suou
3 жыл бұрын
I've been using steady hand and retrofuturist with the same exact perk combos (QD + snapshot) and it just feels completely ridiculous
@Gozud
3 жыл бұрын
Bungie removed Quickdraw from all aggressive shotguns and are nerfing felwinters. I've been using the xeno shotgun wich has slideshot and rampage. Personally I've been using that shotgun more than the felwinters.
@shaddykack
3 жыл бұрын
Comment for the algorithm cuz this video deserves it.
@iceman_raw8858
3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap dawg. Anybody else’s head hurt after all that. Lol. I’m gonna have to watch this one a couple times. The amount of time and depth you put in to your videos is amazing man. You on your way to the top
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Love ya Iceman
@gonnsolo8506
3 жыл бұрын
This video is so well made I'll just comment so the algorithm pushes you to other people
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
LOL love ya Gonn
@gonnsolo8506
3 жыл бұрын
@@ARavingLobster it was your destiny!
@jmsanderson
3 жыл бұрын
Same, just arrived but glad I did, that's a hell of a vid
@alexb.4104
3 жыл бұрын
“I swear Astral Horizon is getting a nerf some day” literally a week later.
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
😳
@iman8738
3 жыл бұрын
can u do like a brief testing with like surplus to see how similar it is to qd and stuff like that with surplus
@MegaBeanHead0
3 жыл бұрын
That would be great 😌
@NamVu-ls1gr
3 жыл бұрын
Threat detector too
@TigerKwan
3 жыл бұрын
i was literally talking to my friends about this. take away quick draw from felwinters. Felwinters is suppose to be a consistent shotgun with shot package and full choke. That's its nature but its too powerful with the ability for someone to have it in their back pocket and just whip it out.
@SpaceBadjur
3 жыл бұрын
Or just take away shot package
@TigerKwan
3 жыл бұрын
@@SpaceBadjur “felwinters is suppose to be a consistent shotgun”
@TigerKwan
3 жыл бұрын
Oh how bungie smiles on us
@willhelterbrand3785
3 жыл бұрын
IMO quickdraw is the #1 most powerful overall PVP weapon perk in the game, and #2 is probably Opening Shot or maybe Rangefinder for handcannons. Handling is just so damn important in this game and everyone who regularly uses Ophidian Aspect or Dragon's Shadow knows this well when they switch off of these exotics.
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah rangefinder is king IMO and I’ll be doing a video to show that soon
@Phoenix6942-7
3 жыл бұрын
The only thing I dont like about rangefinder is the increased zoom.
@zair888
3 жыл бұрын
This vid is amazing, this type of deep-dive content is what I'm missing from all of these other D2 content creators. Hope you blow up soon
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
🧡🧡🧡
@waifugwyndolin9007
3 жыл бұрын
dude this was some insane work! Gj man. Every player should appreciate your dedication to this. Sooooo useful to know all this. You deserve a sub
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🥵
@manusiaygbernamaidhann9463
3 жыл бұрын
goddamn how do u only have this much sub for this quality of a vid??? absolute banger thx
@prawnk1ng
3 жыл бұрын
I like these type of videos. Reminds me of your early work
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy testing but only if I’m passionate about the topic, so that’s why you don’t see them toooo too often ha. A lot of stuff out there to test but kinda boring topics sometimes. Thx for the feedback!
@prawnk1ng
3 жыл бұрын
@@CastleContent if I got double QuickDraw. Astral and hammer. I only got enough points for 1 dexterity mod. HC or SG is better ?
@leadpaintchips9461
3 жыл бұрын
So the TL;DW is: You can get to the same levels roughly and potentially get better results by giving up a *lot* in return.
@bullssit
3 жыл бұрын
can surplus replace quickdraw? lowkey feels like thats what they intended
@jamesvanbergeyk2353
3 жыл бұрын
Surplus is slightly better IF you never use any abilities, but QuickDraw blows surplus out of the water if you want to use grenade and dodge and melee
@roxette96
3 жыл бұрын
Without knowing why or the details I just realized my setup is efficient. I got QD SS HC and QD SG with 1 shotgun dexterity mod and man it feels amazing and it’s good on paper too.
@sonicXtreme12
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone complains about felwinters but i shit on everyone with an astral, a fusion rifle, a sidearm, like lol. Felwinters is powerful dont get me wrong, but yall are complaining about quickdraw?! Lmfao how about play youre range and use your primary then, or back peddle and play your positioning better so you dont get clapped by a shotgun all the time. I even use the seventh seraph shotgun without quickdraw and still clap people with felwinters. I even use my slideshot opening shot adept astral and still clap cheeks on felwinters. Like just dont suck. Plain and simple. And if you do suck, and you know if you do, dont blame it on a gun or perk, blame yourself for sucking
@Shellnanigans
3 жыл бұрын
Could you take a quick look at gunslingers trance & chain of woe? I am unsure of how much stability and reload each one grants respectively.
@skyguysXD
3 жыл бұрын
wow that's crazy..... *laughs in aspects on warlock* seriously though they should buff aspects lol
@adamschulz9719
3 жыл бұрын
That was an absolute masterpiece of a video! My hats off to you sir thanks
@MY-rl8hu
3 жыл бұрын
QD is too OP of a perk right now and people crutch it so much. It needs to be toned down especially on shotguns.
@itslax25
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone coming here after the qd nerf
@slimemonster0381
3 жыл бұрын
After the 4/8/21 TWAB, this is a very helpful video
@FiveFngrDscnt
3 жыл бұрын
Subbed cause this vid is amazing quality. Great stuff.
@prawnk1ng
3 жыл бұрын
Does it even matter. Sweats still gonna be using QuickDraw glitch
@Technizor
3 жыл бұрын
Huh. That explains some of the gnarly swap SPEEEED I get from my QD Igneous Hammer and Curated Blasphemer. Holy crap QD does a lot.
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Ya man it’s honestly insane
@lnz1727
3 жыл бұрын
everyone's here after yesterday nerf
@maniacalcoast2742
3 жыл бұрын
Man this just makes me miss my mindbenders ambition with QuickDraw and snapshot and a handling masterwork with fullchoke
@shadowninja1059
3 жыл бұрын
Same 😢
@loneenvoyyale5259
3 жыл бұрын
Saaame TT~TT
@Hathematics
3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best Destiny 2 videos I have ever seen. Thank you for doing the absurd leg work required to make this video possible. I learned a LOT.
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Hathematics, I ended up making a part 2 because of the way they changed QD... boy oh boy.. soon.
@COOLFASOLE2011
3 жыл бұрын
So what is the better thing to do!!!!? U just explain every thing but didn’t give us ur conclusion !!!?????????
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
Well I’m just trying to show people what the options give and that it depends on the handling of the weapons. Here are 2 conclusions for example: if you have QuickDraw you should definitely use it, if you have a low handling primary it’s worth using a dexterity mod IMO, it’s not worth using a dex mod on a weapon that has QD (even though it stacks), bungie should make dexterity mods also increase ADS speed IMO.
@eggsymangerz5112
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly Quickdraw is God Tier and all however I gotta admit since Heritage's release I don't use any other shotguns in the first slot. In other words Ya Boi a Slug Shotty Guy
@theseqwill9649
3 жыл бұрын
Quickdraw opening shot on blasphemer 🥵
@Shelfside
3 жыл бұрын
So much good info in here, makes me wonder what would happen if there's a potential build that had two low rate-of-fire guns both with quickdraw and some other handling perk like pulse monitor and ran around switching weapons after every shot
@rigobertoquintero58
3 жыл бұрын
By accident, didn’t even realize that I have a QuickDraw swashbuckler roll :)
@lucaspolaski9856
3 жыл бұрын
For someone who likes to not only know the 'what' but also the 'why', you went above and beyond, sir. This makes so much more sense to me then just " hey, run these mods because reasons". And makes me understand WHY to run which mods and the value each has. Subbed
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
🙌🙌🙌
@noahhowey5642
3 жыл бұрын
Once you go dragons shadow you never go back.
@joeytrujillo4475
3 жыл бұрын
So now that QD is nerfed, how does this change
@Kay00012
3 жыл бұрын
here after twab, love ur videos even more now
@donnie5815
3 жыл бұрын
Bungie sees this and takes ads speed off quick drawl instead of making dex mods better.
@zeph6182
3 жыл бұрын
I mean, just use targeting and dexterity mods. Sure, you may have to peel off your stat mods to make it work, but it’s worth it just for how much smoother it makes the game feel. Either that or run Dragon’s Shadow or Ophidia Spathe and don’t run any targeting or dexterity mods. It may make some shots harder to hit and you may need to pull out some higher mobility armor but you’ll never have to worry about switching or ADSing quickly enough.
@Toeknee462
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly hard to focus on the vid after flashing those blue eyes not once, but twice.
@CastleContent
3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@Kon-910
3 жыл бұрын
Great testing here. Now I feel like I can pull out these low handling guns from the vault like Last Man Standing
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