That's how you segue into a self-promotion. Bravo sir
@anvior45
5 жыл бұрын
A great thing with this channel, a lot of information and good videos: But it is not like they are hammering you with "Lucky Gunner is the best." He just says it once, and then it is is there at the end of video as an image for a few moments.
@plausibleg.3170
5 жыл бұрын
Shoot .32 ACP through my Taurus 327 revolver with accuracy and no issues. The 327 allows me to shoot multiple calibers and is a awesome revolver.
@CamoCollie
4 жыл бұрын
@ベルトルト what?
@jeffyoung60
5 ай бұрын
Did your .32 ACP bullets tumble?
@plausibleg.3170
5 ай бұрын
@@jeffyoung60 No
@YurrNext
5 жыл бұрын
I hate a leaking gas hole.
@YurrNext
5 жыл бұрын
@Born Unloved I am my own worst enemy. 😂
@sillybilly44444444
5 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be a problem as long as the chamber stays dry.
@YurrNext
5 жыл бұрын
@@sillybilly44444444 Sometimes it 'Depends' 😂
@a420man2
5 жыл бұрын
Beware the gashole.
@YurrNext
5 жыл бұрын
@@a420man2 indeed😫
@avsafetytek
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if I agree I’ve shot over 500 rounds of 32 acp with my LCR 327 with no issues 🤔🤔 your right, there is tumbling but at 5 yards it’s pretty accurate.. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
@firstcynic92
3 жыл бұрын
32 short also has a .045" rim thickness, just like 32 ACP. 32 log, h&r mag and 327 mag are all .055" rim thickness.
@godlyfamilygunly3170
4 жыл бұрын
I took a gun in to fix for a buddy with light primer strikes. It was a 32 H&R mag. He was firing 32 auto out of it. I changed his ammo with no further problems.
@MarkiusFox
5 жыл бұрын
The .32 ACP was designed for semi-auto pistols and revolvers, but they had to be chambered for that cartridge. Finding a revolver in that chambering is very difficult, but they did exist; though, by that time, the pocket semi-auto was already proving itself to be the future of personal protection.
@ericktamberg670
3 ай бұрын
Maybe revolvers chambered for .32 ACP could be scarce in USA, but models made in Belgium and Spain at a century ago are relatively common in Europe and South America - but those chambered for .25 Auto are far more common, like the Belgian "Le Novo" and double-barreled 20 shot (the cylinder has two layers of 10 chambers, fired alternately by a hammer with two firing pins) HDH.
@MarkiusFox
3 ай бұрын
@@ericktamberg670 The 20 shot revolver you're talking about (Le Redoubtable) isn't in .25 ACP.
@ericktamberg670
3 ай бұрын
@@MarkiusFox , Le Redoutable is in .25 ACP/6,35mm Browning. There's also Le Terrible, a 16-shot .32 ACP/7,65mm Browning. I had a Le Redoutable (aka Mitrailleuse) some decades ago.
@anotherspambot1363
5 жыл бұрын
The .32 caliber seems to be making a comback cause i'm seeing tons of vids on it as well as seeing alot of stuff in local shops.
@bs84578
4 жыл бұрын
In India it sold to legal gun owners in large nos manufatured by rmy factory.
@sunbeam8866
3 жыл бұрын
Well, with the current craziness, .32 acp is now cheaper and easier to buy than 9mm or .380!
@N0sf3r4tuR1s3n
Жыл бұрын
@@sunbeam8866 can I still get a zastava skorpion clone? Because a skorpion is plenty excuse enough for .32 acp, and now if the ammo is more available...
@sunbeam8866
Жыл бұрын
@@N0sf3r4tuR1s3n I'm not up on machine-pistols so I can't say. However, after I commented here more than a year ago, prices of 9mm and .380 were going through the roof, and suddenly, .32 acp arms and ammo got much more popular. Since then, 9mm and .380 prices came down some, while .32 acp is still kind of up there!
@WitchyWagonReal
5 жыл бұрын
I just gotta get a .327FM LCR... I’m a child of the ‘70s, so I roll with .38 Special... but .327FM just makes so much sense... 🤔 ahh, these new fangled gadgets and doodads, the world is changing so fast... 😆
@jimhovater8755
4 жыл бұрын
It's important to remember that .32acp ammunition can be fired in modern .32 revolvers IN AN EMERGENCY.
@NdottiGunz139
Жыл бұрын
Not in the H&M revolver
@jarcher5626
Жыл бұрын
Only one shot. Then you get to visit the gunsmith 😂Ask me how I know.
@Isaihernandez777
Жыл бұрын
@@jarcher5626 oof.
@Isaihernandez777
Жыл бұрын
@@jarcher5626 i fired 2 cylinders worth of .32 Acp ammo through a beautiful 1929 colt pocket positive. It didn’t blow up but finding out this information is making me cringe so hard.
@jeffyoung60
5 ай бұрын
Let me guess. The .32 ACP damaged your .32 revolver.@@jarcher5626
@LYLEWOLD
5 жыл бұрын
"Since the shambling, undead hordes have not yet forced all online commerce to a grinding halt ... " yeah, but they're trying - GREETINGS FROM CALIFORNIA
@john-paulsilke893
5 жыл бұрын
Lyle W sorry about you homeless problem but you crap government seems to hate tax payers and loves undocumented and homeless drains on society. Enjoy you upcoming plague. (I’m kinda serious, store some potable water and a heap of food for the troubles ahead. Make sure you have enough for your neighbors as well because you are one giant earthquake during a typhus outbreak, (there is currently one happening!) and the National Guard will have to be called in.
@Legitpenguins99
5 жыл бұрын
@@john-paulsilke893 you do realize the millions of undocumented immigrants actually play a big part of the economy? Who else would be willing to do all that hard, meanial work for complete shit pay? Should they have entered legally? Absolutely, that would make things better for everyone but the point is if they all get magically deported there would be massive price increases in alot of everyday things
@judyturple675
5 жыл бұрын
Legitpenguins69 BS!!
@sunbeam8866
4 жыл бұрын
A year later, with the virus and the riots, the 'undead hordes' have sure managed to force much local commerce to a grinding halt!
@ironwoodnf
3 жыл бұрын
@@sunbeam8866 cry me a river mark.
@DickTickles
5 жыл бұрын
About the primer slamming back against the firing pin and locking up the cylinder, that happened to me last week. I was shooting Winchester in my SP101 and the second round locked up the gun because the primer got stuck on the firing pin. I could not open the cylinder, I could not pull back on the hammer, to free it, I had to use my knife to pry the case (thus the primer) off the pin. With .32 ACP made by PPU, I had no issues, but none of the .32 ACP I shot in the SP101 had good accuracy. However, in a Heritage .32 H&R Magnum revolver I have, which is a single action, I've shot .32 ACP often and never had an issue. It does shoot a bit low, but it shoots accurately, more accurately than .32 S&W Long actually. No keyholing either. So, I think if you're going to shoot .32 ACP for any non defense use, you have to try out different brands because your results are likely going to vary. For defense, I would not use .32 ACP unless it was the only ammo you can get your hands on.
@codyprice4592
4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you have a Heritage .32mag! They discontinued those and are quite hard to find...especially the 3.5" barrel ones. I have the 6.5" barrel and I love it as it was my first handgun. Mine loves 100grn rounds for point of aim accuracy.
@DickTickles
4 жыл бұрын
@@codyprice4592 Wow, I'm pretty sure I didn't get this in my notifications, so you're lucky that you get a reply. Just so happens i have the 3.5 inch barrel and for the price I paid, other than the fixed sights being off by 2 inches in windage and elevation, it was worth it because it's the best shooting .32 revolver I have and given the barrel length, it's not meant for super long distances anyway. If the 6.5" model had adjustable sights, I'd be all over that as I have found that Ruger's .327 revolvers all have large cylinder throats because I think Ruger is expecting people to only shoot jacketed bullets in .327 revolvers. That means when shooting lead bullets they will lead the bore. .32 Mag revolvers don't seem to suffer from the big throats issue because it's a much lower pressure cartridge, so the throats are smaller and I think it's those smaller throats that help improve accuracy. The only issue there is the only company that made/makes a .32 Mag revolver with adjustable sights for under a $1000 is... Ruger and I'm not sure if they make the throats on their .32 Mag revolvers the same size as their .327 revolvers and I'm not willing to plunk down $500 to find out.
@codyprice4592
4 жыл бұрын
@@DickTickles I do like the 6.5" version. Really aids the velocity and its disastrous on small game with a 100grn Hornady XTP bullet. And i do agree with the adjustable sights, like the Ruger Blackhawk New models, that adjustable sight makes them tack drivers. I also do have the ruger single seven in 327mag and i paid a pretty penny for it. Still no adjustable sights though. Since I believe its built on an all steel frame and it appears to be the same size as my heritage .22LR/.22Mag, i dont see why the adj. sights you can buy aftermarket from heritage wouldn't fit with some smithing.
@DickTickles
4 жыл бұрын
@@codyprice4592 I didn't know there were aftermarket sights available. I will have to give those a look, I really only need a rear sight.
@codyprice4592
4 жыл бұрын
@@DickTickles yessirrr, shopheritagemfg.com should have these fiber optic rear and front sights. I think they also sell .22mag models with them already implemented. It will take a smith or yourself if you're good enough to tap and install them. Takes away from the western look but ive heard good things about them.
@danielswierczynski2001
5 жыл бұрын
As much as I would like to disagree, your reasoning is sound. I fire the .32 acp in my Single Seven from time to time with no issues, but you are correct when you say it is best to stick with the ammunition your gun was designed for. Logic at its most simple. I think I will stop shooting that round in my Ruger. Thanks.
@OldPackMule
5 жыл бұрын
Great “off label” topic. Thanks for answering that.
@hogue3666
5 жыл бұрын
You've done your homework. Awesome video and keep it coming!
@jamiesloan5902
5 жыл бұрын
Very good info, my friend. Rim thickness basically determines head space, in a revolver. All of this made perfect sense to me... Keep up the GREAT work!!!! Love your channel!!!!!! One of the best, as far as "pure" info.
@thereindeertherabbitthebat592
5 жыл бұрын
I bet all of the 32's & 327 rounds would be a lot of fun to reload. Esp when casting ur own lead. Awesome video again guys, thanks! ✴️🔫
@CheifDegenerate
5 жыл бұрын
The only "problem" I've had with firing 32acp is needing a screwdriver to push the Shell casing. That's why I'm getting the cylinder milled for moon clips. Which will eliminate that Gap at the firing pin you mentioned. I don't shoot 32acp from my LCR for defensive use. It's one of a few guns we use at the farm to dispatch pests close to the house or bothering the animals in the buildings. I've had 32 SW long go straight through the pest and poke a hole in the building. 32sw(short) is too hard to get a regular supply. Plus there's 3 other semiauto pistols shooting 32acp. So I just use the 32acp. Accuracy doesn't suffer when you're shooting no more than 6 feet away but most 3-4 feet away. They might be "tumbling" but they still penetrate!
@vanrickenstien
5 жыл бұрын
Who are you going to s end it to for moon clips and how much ?
@CheifDegenerate
5 жыл бұрын
@@vanrickenstien I sent it to tkcustom.com Email them for the info. I have them doing the cylinder on mine but they're also making me close to 100 moon clips for it. So my price tag is pretty outrageous. But my LCR is one of my favorite guns for training people and having all those moon clips will help me have plenty of each caliber loaded up before the range trip so I don't have to waste time loading and unloading the moon clips.
@vanrickenstien
5 жыл бұрын
Cool. What do they charge per moon clip? Thanks for the info appreciate it just bought a 327 lcr x @@CheifDegenerate
@CheifDegenerate
5 жыл бұрын
@@vanrickenstien according to their website it's $37.50 for a set of 5. But I think they give you your first batch at a discounted price if you're buying them with the service of them milling your cylinder to take the moon clips. Your LCR cylinder isn't made to use moon clips, it has to be milled out to accept them. I don't remember how many is in the package when you're getting it milled, nor can I remember how much they initial batch is since I told them I wanted a significant amount more. But it's also best to buy the moon clips from the same company that Mills your cylinder.
@vanrickenstien
5 жыл бұрын
thanks for the info I see under wood has some 32 acp plus p loadings too. Reload would be fast f or 6 rounds with little recoil and more compact then speed loader. Once cut for moon clips can other 32 rounds be used with the moon clips. @@CheifDegenerate
@martinwall7297
3 жыл бұрын
great review, it's a good round, any .32 was used for years and still is.
@michaelgonthier3360
3 ай бұрын
Dude You know your stuff. I worked 25+ years as a machinist. Ten thousandths of an inch play with any ammo is a chance one should not take. You're a good teacher...
@jackedupjunkers1922
5 жыл бұрын
Good rule of thumb is to always feed your gun what it's designed to fire.... case closed
@9ZERO6
5 жыл бұрын
Sounds so simple, but it is a theory that is very hard for a lot of people to comprehend. Not trying to call anybody out, but if the gun is designed for a certain caliber round, it really is just as simple as putting that round into the firearm. Short of not having an ammo supply, and simultaneously being in a life-threatening situation, and just happening to have the *almost* right size ammo close at hand, I can think of no reason to experiment.
@hatefulhermit673
5 жыл бұрын
You're boring...
@geometro9512
5 жыл бұрын
If your gun starts eating instead of firing then the walking dead are not far off.
@notrightmeow3357
5 жыл бұрын
No, you
@lukewarmwater6412
5 жыл бұрын
@@9ZERO6 unless you have an old webley and cant get ammo for it easily. then you shoot .45 acp with half moon clips. lower pressure and you can plink with an old friend.
@jeffyoung60
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. It's always best to explore fully the pros and cons of a situation. The moral of this video is, use the ammo your pistol was designed to fire. But in an emergency, if all you have left is some old .32 ACP and you're totally out of .32 S&W Long, .32 H&R, and .327, then by all means use it rather than be left with an empty pistol especially if the bad guys are banging on your door. But in a normal situation, don't use the .32 ACP when you have access to proper .32.
@marktohulka8937
Ай бұрын
When I first starting learning about the .327 mag, I read that the semi-rimmed .32ACP cartridges would work in it. I just thought “that’s an awful lot of freebore before hitting rifling.” It’s nice to hear that someone with more experience than I feels the same. Recently got an SP101 in .327 for my daughter (mostly😉) and I’m loving its versatility.
@maptinkler
13 күн бұрын
I just bought a Taurus in 327 and so far I like it. However, the 327 ammo is expensive-hard to find. If you don't mind sharing what did you pay for the SP101?
@Hoodlum3621
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video as always. You just confirmed the same things I ran into with mine. I couldn't find any good info on it before your video.
@garyK.45ACP
5 жыл бұрын
It works. I have done it. It is not recommended for usual practice. I have had some nuisance issues extracting from revolvers, accuracy is poor. If I really needed a gun and had only a .32 revolver and some .32 ACP ammo, then I would do it. In any case, neither the .32 ACP or the .32 H&R Mag in my wife's revolver are my only choices and that scenario is pretty unlikely. I appreciate you covering some of the more obscure possibilities. There are actually a lot more .32 revolvers and autos out there in use than the internet would have you believe.
@bigghoss762
5 жыл бұрын
Lucky Gunner: Busting caps and myths.
@makarov138
3 жыл бұрын
My old Taurus 32 long shoots 32 ACP fine. Cylinder to throat length is only 16th in. longer than the regular 32 long case.
@pbr-streetgang
5 жыл бұрын
Love the 32. Thanks for the vid sir.
@UnknownGamer40464
2 ай бұрын
I just wanna try it once because it seems cool that it ended up being compatible with 32 s&w long and similar revolvers, seemingly by chance.
@jimmieburleigh9549
5 жыл бұрын
Well with that thinking about travel from cyl to barrel you can say same thing about the 32 short.
@wesdodson9391
3 жыл бұрын
.32 short was a BLACK POWDER cartridge!! So any gun that is chambered in .32 short will not be built for that high of pressure!!!
@HockeyGoon939
2 жыл бұрын
@@wesdodson9391 Lots of rounds started out black powder, 38 special, 30-30, 303, even the 22 rim fire.
@jimmyruger7529
4 жыл бұрын
you are killing me, however I agree and im sure all ur aproaches n ideas are ON . i am a collector of various 32 revolvers, and i say thumbs UP on this vid. n Thank u
@jeramyw
4 жыл бұрын
I'm so wanting Henry to make a side loading gate lever action in 327 mag. I'd pair it up with two Ruger gp100 Lipseys models. Dreams are nice.
@askunz1
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent reporting. Factually precise and well presented.
@Mrgunsngear
5 жыл бұрын
good info
@chubbycatfish4573
5 жыл бұрын
I'd definitely stick to an automatic if I were to use .32ACP.
@gunmonkey6545
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, I was wondering about that because I am very interested in the 32 h&r.
@GaveMeGrace1
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you- that’s oh so tempting... 32 revolver, not ignoring your advice.
@gordonbrown5901
5 жыл бұрын
I have fired hundreds of .32 acp in both a Colt Police Positive Special and my Ruger SP101 in 32 H&R without issues. I agree accuracy suffers because of the distance to the barrel throat. My Ruger does a pretty good ejecting the semi-rimmed cartridge but it's not 100%. It's a novelty, and good to know if your caught with a 32 revolver and 32 acp only (?????).
@user-kt8yd6we4e
7 ай бұрын
Always good input. A best practice (even though we will remember to use it in a need to scenario) is that point of knowing what the Maker says about it. When you're in the fishbowl, after action, that's one of the points that is covered.
@stevevelobahn1814
5 жыл бұрын
This video is Leroy Brown approved.
@markedman3990
3 жыл бұрын
Baddest man in the whole damn town!
@chlebowg
6 ай бұрын
I've got a Ruger 4.6" Single Six in .32 H&R. My first ammo out of it was .32 ACP/7.65mm I already had on hand. Not very accurate but no tumbling. I couldn't find any .32 H&R in my area. I used my Lee .32 ACP dies, Lee .223 shell holder to load some Lee .314 90 gr TLSWC into .32 S&W Long cases. I've been holding onto those cases for over 30+ yrs. Got some H&R brass to load now.
@maxscott3349
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it absolutely can if the revolver's chambered for it.
@paulwolf2775
4 жыл бұрын
32 ACP, may not be the best for a 32 caliber revolver, but if it's all you have or could find, it could work. The 1895 Nagant revolver, has a special cylinder designed for 32 acp. Haven't tried it out yet...
@Ms_Tex
4 жыл бұрын
It's kinda ironic (here in 2020) that he mentions the Zombie Apocalypse....
@honkhonkler7732
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the tumbling will improve its close range effectiveness lol
@maptinkler
18 күн бұрын
Had similar issues with failing to release from the cylinder with 32 ACP, however, the accuracy wasn't bad at all.
@shamoy1000
4 жыл бұрын
Good analogy I'd say.
@MrVideovibes
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for addressing this issue. I always wondered about compatibility.
@paulx2777
3 жыл бұрын
The hot gas from a pierced primer can erode the tip of the firing pin, making it rough. This rough firing pin in turn causes more stress on the next primer it hits, thus increasing the risk of another primer pierce. And so it goes. I have shot .32ACP in my SP101 and it does work; in fact I had no problem with it. But your video is convincing, so I will stop doing that. It's just a backup solution - viable, but better avoided if possible.
@tatsuhirosatou5513
5 жыл бұрын
You are exactly right about whats going on with the primers and you are correct it can't cause any serious injuries but it make force you to make an unwanted trip to the gunsmith.
@cal30m1
4 жыл бұрын
I have heard of companies that will convert your Smith and Wesson models 30 & 31, and also the Colt Det Spl chambered in Colt 32 NP, (32 S&W long), to fire the 32 H&R magnum. It’s my understanding that the cylinders are simply reamed to a longer length to accept the H&R case. Do you know of these conversions, or any testing that has been done to these converted revolvers?
@lookronjon
3 жыл бұрын
There might be a clip made. Like the clips for the colt .45 acp. for shooting In revolvers.
@Macallan562
4 жыл бұрын
You are correct across the board.. Thank you.
@homeboyteddyisaliar
5 жыл бұрын
3:47 Hmm, perhaps I am also not chambered in 32 ACP.
@Spanky00Cheeks
3 жыл бұрын
If you try real hard, you’d be surprised what you can personally chamber.
@codypage2457
4 жыл бұрын
You are correct.....
@john-paulsilke893
5 жыл бұрын
I’m still shooting mostly Mini-Mags for my .22’s so there is little chance I’ll be trying to save a buck and a half on .32 ammo for one of my guns. (I don’t own any .32 firearms so it’s a moot point for me). I’m very lucky I can afford slightly higher quality range ammo and avoid most of the troubles cheap ammo causes, (except 7.62x39, which I shoot crap loads of because it always seems to work great and accuracy through overwhelming fire is cool sometimes).
@DavidWilliams-nh5ci
5 жыл бұрын
To many IFs, COULD POSSIBLYs and OVERLY ACTIVE IMAGININGS for me to stop shooting .32 ACP from my DCG. Ruger's LCR in .327 Magnum. Different calibers will always have a different impact point from your gun. .32 short has a different impact point than .32 Long, or .327 Magnum. Powder, Bullet weight, even manufacturer all combine to provide different ballistic characteristics. I do enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.
@rays.5764
2 жыл бұрын
What about, and hear me out, a sleek little pocket revolver specifically designed for .32 acp. Good for concealment, and better than a .22 without dealing with the issues of pocket autos.
@grantdeisig1360
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, tried it in my Ruger SP101 and it sometimes gets light primer strikes because of the increased clearnace like he noted in this video. However my buddy's Ruger single seven, seems to have no issues firing the 32acp. But the gap inbetween the cyclinder and the firing pin, seems to be less than my SP101.
@andymcgowan9819
5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Lehigh Defense only makes .311 anymore (32 ACP) and not .312 (the other mentioned 32’s). Thanks for another informative video.
@MrSanteeclaus
5 жыл бұрын
Andy McGowan- use one 00 buck pellet. They will crimp and extend your need to shoot some cheap Ammo
@Simplemansnature
5 жыл бұрын
Very good video bro. Thanks for looking out.
@FainthedCherry
4 жыл бұрын
Only looking up gun stuff for drawing reference purposes but guns now weirdly interest me because of this. Oh dear. Edit: Subbed to you, I find your content interesting.
@billskinner4661
4 жыл бұрын
Use a Ruger Single Six in .32 H&R Magnum.
@uralbob1
4 жыл бұрын
Extraction is an issue with 32 acp. The case rims can get under the star extractor, but they just flick out with you finger. They are not accurate.
@danielwatters1203
5 жыл бұрын
The pierced primer also illustrates why it is bad to fire .40 S&W out of certain 10mm semi-autos, particularly those with very long firing pin protrusion like a M1911 or S&W 1000-series. The same was true when older Spanish 9x23mm Largo pistols were once claimed to be multi-cartridge capable.
@JohnDoe-nf7up
5 жыл бұрын
Some are capable of firing 38acp as well as 9mm largo as the rounds are roughly the same size with the 38 being semirimmed. My Astra 400 is specifically stamped as 9m/m & 38.
@danielwatters1203
5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-nf7up - The problem is that some folks used to claim that you could also fire 9x19mm and 9x17mm (.380) through these 9x23mm pistols. The American Rifleman tested this back in the 1960s, printing photos of the backed-out, pierced, and completely blown-out primers.
@randydewees7338
4 жыл бұрын
My Ruger LCR 327 would not extract all of the 32 ACP shells from the cylinder, I ended up having to polk them out one by one. I just do not shoot 32 ACP in it.
@sunbeam8866
4 жыл бұрын
Sure wish my vintage 32 break-tops could handle 32 magnum or 327. They could easily chamber and fire .32 acp, though safety would be questionable.
@kirkboswell2575
5 жыл бұрын
That deep indentation isn't from the cartridge backing up too far. All cartridges will back up to the breech face. What happened was the primer setting back into the firing pin BEFORE the case started back. Then as the cartridge came back into the breech face, it reseated the primer. If it was a pressure problem, all the cases would show similar signs. Since this seems to be a single case out of a cylinder, you should suspect either a dirty chamber, or one with some roughness. I, personally, would suspect a rough chamber first (since I have dealt with the issue before). The 32 acp and the other calibers are nominally the same size. The lack of stability is very possibly related to the excessive "jump" to the barrel (as you suggest), but I believe it is more likely related to FMJ bullets vs lead bullets. Lead will more easily upset into the rifling, and the FMJ's are probably stripping some of the rifling grooves before starting to spin. The bullets aren't keyholeing, they are yawing. Try some lead bullet 32acp and see if there is a difference. All in all, you make some valid points, but since you have an audience, don't discount the 32 acp from the 32 discussion. There have been several guns made over the years that utilize numerous cartridges - Astra 9mm for example, or the S&W Governor, or that oddball I can't remember the name of that's supposed to be capable of using 27 different cartridges (yea, right). Good discussion, good points, but I would disagree with the conclusion.
@gaia94
5 жыл бұрын
The oddball revolver you're thinking of is the Phillips and Rodgers M47 Medusa. Forgotten Weapons did a great video about it.
@kirkboswell2575
5 жыл бұрын
@@gaia94 thanks 😊
@gaia94
5 жыл бұрын
@@kirkboswell2575 You're very welcome :)
@LEXxTALIONS7913
3 жыл бұрын
You're a 100% correct .32 acp isn't for any revolver!
@joeowens9742
4 жыл бұрын
Does Winchester still make silver tips in 32 ACP? I have about 40 rounds left and have not seen anyone that has any in stock. Great videos!
@merlemorrison482
5 жыл бұрын
might also mention that 32 ACP has significantly higher pressure than 32 long - or short. another good reason not to use 32 ACPs in older, non-magnum revolvers....
@obi-wankenobi1750
2 жыл бұрын
I shoot it out of my old 32 long made in 1919 but I might stop. I’ve never had any problems though
@belizeanbwoi6722
2 жыл бұрын
@@obi-wankenobi1750 how many .32 acp rounds do you think you’ve put through it?
@waynehajek6346
Жыл бұрын
@@obi-wankenobi1750 Some of those older revolvers may not have had their cylinders heat treated to handle the pressures of modern smokeless powders. You might do some research on the brand of revolver you own to verify if the cylinder was properly heat treated. S&W started heat treating their cylinders in either 1905 or 1915 I think, I'm not sure of the exact date.
@jungblud59
3 жыл бұрын
You are actually wrong about the bullet size, 32 acp, 32 s&w, 32 long, 32 h&r magnum, and 327 fed magnum are all .312" in diameter.
@vic771
5 жыл бұрын
Yes you can can, a Nagant with an old school conversion cylinder...
@RogueSignal
4 жыл бұрын
Do a segment on firing .380 ACP through a 9-makarov.
@archiegoodwin9909
4 жыл бұрын
Ever done that? 9x18 is cheap in bulk.
@darrickcato9499
4 ай бұрын
That sucks because i was thinking a 3inch revolver would give .32acp some nice extra velocity compared to the pocket pistols you usually shoot .32acp out of.
@dobypilgrim6160
5 жыл бұрын
I have a .32 ACP cylinder for an 1895 Nagant revolver. It works, but is kind of useless.
@dugbert5
3 жыл бұрын
Extraction is no problem in my Ruger Single Six.
@NotHisRealName
5 жыл бұрын
You can hammer in a nail with a screwdriver... but it's not advisable. It's always best to use the tool designed for the application.
@paddy9738
5 жыл бұрын
No .32-20 revolver video?
@josecanisales3491
5 жыл бұрын
You can shoot 32acp in a 32-20, 30 carbine revolver.
@vincentbaelde-millar670
3 жыл бұрын
As per SAAMI specifications .32 ACP has a larger bore diameter (0.304") than .327 fed etc. (0.303"), so that's not the cause of your accuracy issues. The problem is most likely the longer chamber reamed out at the cartridge diameter providing no support for the short .32 ACP projectile as it leaves the case mouth.
@Diwana71
3 жыл бұрын
. 32 ACP and. 32 short revolver are similar. Only the copper jacketing is different and the rim.
@MFurey
3 жыл бұрын
Manufacturers have no incentive to recommend anything that poses even theoretical risk.
@douglasmilburn3875
5 жыл бұрын
Y’all should advertise your shipping as faster than 45 acp, sounds awesome and the velocity threshold of 45 acp is easily beat
@unclejustin7267
2 жыл бұрын
Good advice. I can shoot .38 super out of my .357 magnum. But now that caliber is so rare it doesn't make any sense.
@CJoksch
5 жыл бұрын
Would a full moon clip help with the rim thickness problem? It would also help with case extraction also.
@genebalinski645
2 жыл бұрын
Always informative. Thanks for a great video
@lukewarmwater6412
5 жыл бұрын
yes, with half moon clips.
@josecanisales3491
3 жыл бұрын
But they work.
@OldManMontgomery
3 жыл бұрын
3:59 The primer cannot back out and 'freeze' (lock up the cylinder) the revolver. When the weapon fires, the primer in ALL revolvers backs out to some degree, but then the recoil reseats the primer against the recoil shield. (Firing a empty case with primer only will back up and jam up the revolver.) Other revolvers can cause the primer to 'back up' into the firing pin hole. However, this is a result of a faulty primer, not anything else. You mentioned 'rate of twist' (referring to rifling). I looked. .32 ACP is currently made with a 1:14 inch twist. Pre WW2 .32 ACP/7.65mm Browning pistols were typically 1:16 inch. H&R .32 Magnum is standardized at 1:14 inch. Bullet diameter seems to be a bit vague. The 5th Edition of Ammo Encyclopedia declare the bullet diameter as .309 inch. However, I find reloading books and makers of bullets for reloading seem to believe the diameter of a .32 ACP bullet is .312 inch. Which is the same size as the S & W revolvers, .32 H&R Magnum and Federal .327 Magnum. Even at the numbers of .309" to .312", there is a difference of .003 inches. Insignificant. I will stipulate the rather long 'jump' between release from the case and engagement in rifling probably doesn't help accuracy, but the group you displayed of .32 ACP being shot in a revolver is quite better than most can hold it. So I disagree with your reasons for ceasing the practice. But I must agree it is a bad idea in general to fire any ammunition in a firearm not designed for it. This is one I'd reserve for exigent circumstances only. And for that matter, I'd prefer a larger caliber.
@MPGunther1
5 жыл бұрын
thank you for the clarification
@danielwatters1203
5 жыл бұрын
The excess headspace might also explain some of the accuracy issues, particularly the vertical stringing. I wonder if a modern moonclip conversion might help here. Use case specific clips to provide the appropriate headspace for each rim thickness.
@LuckyGunner
5 жыл бұрын
Definitely a possibility.
@danielwatters1203
5 жыл бұрын
I see that TK Custom offers a 0.025" moonclip for .327 Ruger LCR. Unfortunately, the .32 ACP extractor groove is also 0.025" So perhaps TK Custom could be convinced to only machine the cylinder recess 0.015" deep? You wouldn't be able to use moonclips with the legacy revolver cases, but they could still headspace on the outer lip of the cylinder.
@DickTickles
5 жыл бұрын
Partially, but it's not the only reason. I've yet to find a 71 to 73 grain FMJ .32 ACP bullet to shoot well in any .32 revolvers, even when I loaded the bullet in a .32 Mag or .327 case. The revolvers just don't like the bullet and I think it has something to do with the bullet's bearing surface being too short and the rifling twist not being adequate. In fact, in my .32 H&R and .327 guns, I find a 90 grain bullet to be the lightest bullet that shoots well. There's also the potential the low amount of powder in .32 ACP not causing the case to expand as much as the revolver cases do, so the case doesn't obturate fully and thus not all the gas is propelling the bullet. In fact, some of the gas is blowing by the bullet before it hits the cylinder throat and what that causes is inconsistent powder burn, which causes velocities to go all over the place. You don't want extreme highs and lows with ammo because that causes accuracy issues along with other factors.
@craigfinley2507
Жыл бұрын
What is a moon clip
@craigfinley2507
Жыл бұрын
@@LuckyGunner could you tell me what a mood clip is and and I have a 7:32 model Harrington in Richardson on the barrel it says s&w so that means I can only shoot Smith and Wesson bullets
@michigunsanta8680
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve shot a couple cylinders of 32acp in my LCR and it worked fine but there’s no reason to do it. If I wanna just plink 32 S&W long is absolutely fine. 👌
@michigunsanta8680
3 жыл бұрын
But I do have WAY more 32acp Ammo on hand than 327/32H&R/32S&W, so in a Ammo shortage apocalyptic deal if all my 32acp semis go down, which they’re all old as hell (one a 115years old!) it’s a possible senario I could be reduced to shooting 32acp in my LCR!?! 🤷♂️😳Lol 😆
@gage5484
5 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeeea I think I'll just stick to .32 S&W Long as a cheaper recreational cartridge.
@RogersGirl88
Жыл бұрын
Now we just need a revolver that can fire .50BMG in an emergency.
@bananieldiamonds1921
5 жыл бұрын
I had a .32 top break 6 shot h&r revolver chambered in .32 H&R short (yes it is a thing) and when i got it the person i bought it from said it shoot .32 s&w short. like the .32 acp, the .32 S&W short had a thinner rim (than the H&R Short) which would cause the primers to explode and shoot gas and metal shavings back through the firing pin hole. after about 200 rouds i figured something was up so i looked into the gun more and discovered the chambering of H&R Short. which also was a heeled bullet (like a .22 lr) so the .32 s&w short probably wasnt engaging what little rifling the gun had.
@craigfinley2507
Жыл бұрын
I have a 732 model Harrington and Richardson on the barrel it says Smith and Wesson I can shoot Smith & Wesson short and Smith and Wesson loan the rim on those seem to be the same that was acquired for that gun. Get back with me
@dlam2864
2 жыл бұрын
The extra length in the cylinders acts as extra freebore
@dartanianeverett2630
Жыл бұрын
yes i use 32 acp in mine never a problem
@Predalien195
5 жыл бұрын
I've shot probably 300 or 400 rounds of .32 ACP out of my SP101 in .327 Federal. No problems, no issues, fairly accurate out to 25 yards..32 ACP out of the revolver was never intended to be the point in my opinion.. It seems more of a "last resort" kind of thing to me and adds to the over all versatility of the firearm. Now, in a .32 S&W Long only gun this could potentially cause some issues... but anything in .32 H&R or .327 Federal and it'll be fine. But I've also got a S&W Model 30-1 that's had over 300 rounds of .32 ACP and it's not showing any signs of problems on the horizon. As somebody who owns a lot of .32 caliber guns, both revolver and semi auto so for me it makes a lot of sense to me personally to shoot all compatible ammo types out of the gun I use the most. I will say though, with .32 S&W Long the issue is majority of bullets are all lead nose cowboy loads. They're downloaded from what it's capable of and the .32 ACP often produces better results. Now, if I'm just trying to shoot for accuracy the .32 Long is excellent for that. Looking at it from a self defense perspective, .32 ACP has a lot more proven options that out of a 3 inch revolver like my SP101 get similar results to my autoloaders like my Colt 1903 Pocket Hammerless or FN 1922 which often get 60gr JHP's moving at over 1,000+ fps in a .32 ACP. While .32 Long isnt my primary go to defensive caliber, when loaded right it's definitely something you shouldnt turn your nose up to. .32 ACP may not be the best thing in a revolver designed for other .32 Calibers, but it's kind of like how you can shoot a .38 Super in a .357 Magnum gun because of the same semi rimmed nature. Its cool, it adds to overall versatility, and while not the most practical if you have other firearms in the caliber it allows for more ammo commonality.
@imcrazyforwar
4 жыл бұрын
in short, only use what gun is chambered for, unless its all you got and shits hit the fan.
@troytaylor9228
5 жыл бұрын
You haven't tried it obviously. I've shot more 32 auto out of my own S&W 32 Airlite Ti H&R Mag than anything else and it is just as accurate and just as fun and just as reliable as all the others. In a snub pistol with no sites why the fruck are you worried about accuracy? Get real! You point it you don't aim it. We're talking snubby handguns not long barrel guns.
@anthonymora7894
5 жыл бұрын
Magtech makes the only hollow point .32 Long ammo I’ve been able to find. It comes in SJHP 50 rd boxes. I’d like to see Lehigh Defense make an “Extreme Penetrator” solid copper cartridge in that caliber. A good round for the old Smith & Wesson J frame and Hand Ejector revolvers.
@fishcars8078
5 жыл бұрын
This is true. It's the only commercial HP load available in that caliber, however, it will not expand. I have loaded and tested many different 32 ammo combos. 32 S&W, 32 S&W long, 32-20, 32 ACP, and 32 H&R. I enjoy loading them as they are cheap and fun to experiment with. I've tested the Magtech 32 long and it chronos at about 710fps out of a 4.5" barrel S&W. I could not get it to expand in any media. It's just too slow. I load 32 long with 100 grain hard cast SWCs to about 830 fps without being over on pressure. They do not expand but do penetrate well. The S&B 100 grain 32 new police load chronos at about 810fps and is the best off the shelf 32 long I've tested. Likewise S&B and Fiocchi 32ACP are by far the most potent off the shelf 32ACP I've tested with exception to speciality ammo like Buffalo bore.
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