Tim, if you want to get the titanium to work harden then you need to cause actual _plastic deformation_ to occur. You need something that will create actual divots in the face of the hammer! Needles and flat face hammers only get you a little way there. You need a heavy hard steel hammer with a small radius tip, and use that with force so that it will actually leave little _visible_ dents/marks of 1.5 to 3 mm. If you can see that you leave some mark/impression on the surface you know you're letting the material flow plastically, and _that_ is what work hardening is!
@seldoon_nemar
Жыл бұрын
This. Aerospace Shot *peens* their parts. they literally sandblast it with 1/4" ball bearings. The real question is if you can then polish that surface and retain it's mechanical hardness huh, I wonder if you could just put a ball bearing in an air hammer tool and do basically what he did with the needle scaler. that or just temper the tip of a normal bit considering he's got all the gear for it already
@bigbird2451
Жыл бұрын
What about putting the head in the mill or lathe and just purposefully doing a bad job of cutting the face flat. Just the right king of cutting too slow or something?
@Hydrazine1000
Жыл бұрын
@@bigbird2451 Assuming that you deliberately use the wrong cutting insert, the wrong feed rate and cutting depth, you definitely can get the tool to smear, rather than cut. And yes, that would work harden the material too.
@veridico84
Жыл бұрын
Engineer here. Titanium definitely work hardens, it is also prone to realizing the hardening very rapidly. So the 5 minutes of needling would possibly have realised the amount of hardening that was possible with the hammer. As far as I'm aware, to get titanium to a RHC of over 50, you need to do surface hardening, this is done with diffusion hardening. I'm not an expert on that, but it takes many hours and a lot of energy in terms of heat to get the desired result.
@purplebooger6410
Жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see him team up with a company that specializes in hardening for a hammer!
@wesandsharondyck4363
Жыл бұрын
Hi Tim Great video as usual. So that where my tire gauge is. No problem. I bought a new one so I can check 5 - 7 PSI for the quad tires.
@Moondog-wc4vm
Жыл бұрын
Can you possibly suggest a formula to convince my adult kids to return all the tools I 'loaned' them? I have so many empty drawers and hooks. I've asked for my kit back, and they're too big to put over my knee, so any hints would be a really big help 😉😉
@wesandsharondyck4363
Жыл бұрын
@@Moondog-wc4vm
@wesandsharondyck4363
Жыл бұрын
My oldest son had the same problem. His solution was that it is ok to take the tools but if they are not back when he needs them the tool box is locked until they are returned. I think its working.
@Moondog-wc4vm
Жыл бұрын
@@wesandsharondyck4363 😅😅 It's working for my son! He's OK, but I need to borrow my tools back from him to do simple jobs. That would be fine, but he asks for them back almost before I finish the job.
@UnbreakableIcePick
Жыл бұрын
Gift the kids the old tools. Gives you an excuse to buy new 😉
@AdrianMRyan
Жыл бұрын
If you did a titanium framing hammer, I would 100% buy one as a present for my dad who has worked construction his whole life.
@franksworld9922
Жыл бұрын
That would be an awesome gift. Great idea 💡 👍🏻
@truefoxtrot2884
Жыл бұрын
he already has done it about 2 years ago, look up "making A TITANUIM FRAMING HAMMER" (by him)
@chrismichon2169
Жыл бұрын
I’m still very impressed on how you forged a titanium Blacksmithing hammer. My last job I had to weld titanium and it wasn’t fun because it was so sensitive to bluing and contamination
@Joe___R
Жыл бұрын
Timothy, I really like your old school shipping crates you use for your axes. The only thing that I believe would make it better would be to use wood wool as the packaging material instead of crinkle paper. Wood wool, AKA wood excelsior is what was used to pad out shipping crates 100 years ago. It is what you see inside crates in historically based movies.
@minnesotatomcat
Жыл бұрын
I remember watching u forge that hammer, it just doesn’t feel like 2 years ago already. I think you were the first person who’s channel I ever actually subscribed too, and you haven’t disappointed yet. I miss robomartin in the background 😂
@morganmiller2133
Жыл бұрын
You should test a store bought titanium hammers hardness. Great videos, good job.
@veridico84
Жыл бұрын
Your mannerisms remind me of my brother's mate who lived with us for 15 years, and you look similar to my judo sensei (he was for 21 years), and the nostalgia hits hard. It's really great to watch. And then your videos are great.
@anthonyp4209
Жыл бұрын
Upvote for the epic Rocky like music montage when searching. If you had run up some stairs and stood in front of a statue at the end I would not have been surprised.
@erikcourtney1834
Жыл бұрын
You should take a scrap piece and put it on the power hammer with a fuller top tool. Then go to town on it. If it will work harden that will do it.. please try it
@Joel-vp7xe
Жыл бұрын
The solution is a steel face on a titanium hammer. More difficult to produce but we’ve seen you do crazier things. Thanks for the great content.
@moondoggie1987
Жыл бұрын
Those hatchets and axes looked so good great pairing of wood to the heads.
@jeffreycoppensjr4728
Жыл бұрын
Awesome music in the background Tim. Amazing axes and hatchets too, like freaking amazing, keep up the good work.
@francobuzzetti9424
Жыл бұрын
glad to see my idea (and many others i'm sure) kind of worked to at least even out the hardness! we got more titanium hammer content and that's always good!
@FarmsteadForge
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update - love the old landcruiser!
@the_sharp_carpenter
Жыл бұрын
The inaccurate readings will be coming from an uneven surface. Hardness testers are measuring in ..0001 increments per .5 HRC. You need a nice smooth atleast 120 grit finish. If you do that I'd be you will probably see a 1-2 HRC jump and much more consistency across the readings. Very cool to see the difference in needle scaling vs as is. Keep up the great work
@michaelhmfic8346
Жыл бұрын
I feel your pain, I'm always so lost for what seems like years after moving
@jtcustomknives
Жыл бұрын
There are other Titanimum alloys that get much harder. I know it a few Gus that use a very special grade of Titanimum for knives and swords and it is amazing. I will look up the alloy and get back to you but it’s very expensive.
@thedrumssayyes
Жыл бұрын
No we love the titanium content! Keep it coming!
@coltonkruse2313
Жыл бұрын
Man those hatchets are beautiful.
@blackhammerartisan
Жыл бұрын
3-pound forging hammers sounds awesome.
@bigbird2451
Жыл бұрын
Wooo! That's what I suggested. Just starting, hope it works.
@PDYALL
Жыл бұрын
Man I love your axes can’t wait to save up enough to grab one
@noone6905
Жыл бұрын
This gives me Midwestern Flynn Lockwood vibes.
@lancemcillahroy1115
Жыл бұрын
Please make a tungsten hammer! Also maybe the titanium needs an extreme amount of pressure with no where to go kind of like man-made diamonds where the molecules reorder themselves to be extremely compact and dense and more organized
@jamesdean8260
Жыл бұрын
It being a soft hammer is probably responsible for some of the qualities you walk across the shop for. If you got it to harden up like a normal hammer you'd likely lose some of those positive aspects. But there's only one way to find out...
@oubliette862
Жыл бұрын
I've done a good bit of axe work and the smoother the head and bit are the better in my opinion. the double bit ones are really nice I like the straight handles they seem stronger. I always end up splitting the handles of the regular kind with curvy handles.
@oakhurstaxe6392
Жыл бұрын
What a great video. Thanks Timothy!
@Dalton-bo3wb
Жыл бұрын
Isn't the forging hammer style you made from ti just a rounding hammer? Which if im not mistaken originated with Ferriers? Now if there's any type of blacksmith that would be willing to sacrifice some hardness for a huge reduction in weight, it would be a ferrier, would it not? They're always on the move, work fast and work with relativly soft materials! So maybe a farriers edition titanium rounding hammer?
@drewendly89
Жыл бұрын
“Soft hammer” thats a good insult. That guy… what a soft hammer.
@SchysCraftCo.
Жыл бұрын
Wow that's very interesting to learn and see Timothy. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Forge lit. Keep Making. God Bless.
@pauldriscoll5010
Жыл бұрын
Bead blasting can also be used to hardened titanium and aluminium
@petersonl1008
Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. Thanks
@jeremymcadam7400
Жыл бұрын
Man that music had some funk, and I literally never say that
@mohammadaldahi8508
Жыл бұрын
5:15 you can scan it and make a digital copy that way it is easier to find.
@bobbydollar7680
Жыл бұрын
Mill the face down, drill and tap, and put a hardened steel face on. Kinda like the titanium framing hammers
@jonballard4453
Жыл бұрын
You could watch your old video when you set the Rockwell up the first time
@demos74dxs
Жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to get one of these outstanding 1912 Blackhawk Hatchets. The axes are incredibly hard to get! I want!
@starpuss
Жыл бұрын
At least you showed us a little view of the landcruiser 😆 Interesting way to harden titanium. Need some titanium 🪓
@timothyfindlay6253
Жыл бұрын
You need an Nyobium or Inconel hammer!
@CaptCorpMURICA
Жыл бұрын
I’m more excited for the 50 Cal Center Punches.
@thomasrebbeck6877
Жыл бұрын
I’d be interested in a titanium forging hammer
@chrisalbrecht7342
Жыл бұрын
Framing hammers would probably sell well.
@alifetomake
Жыл бұрын
Harden it with the powerhammer! Hit it cold, early in the shaping process, and see what happens!
@thecrittercage8255
Жыл бұрын
Hey, maybe try to forge weld a harder metal to the titanium just for the faces of the hammer or maybe a different grade or alloy would work better. I would love to see the different options explored
@MrLongboarder87
Жыл бұрын
Carburizing titanium will make the surface much harder and increase wear resistance immensely. Not sure what it will do if you hammer on it though.
@ericlakota1847
Жыл бұрын
I have the same old tool box i have a few of them actuly and their great
@jerrieyum
Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Texas!
@ilgattosaltoalluva
Жыл бұрын
I'm not an expert in anyway, but i think you should try to use Titanium Beta alloys. As far as i know those are the only ones that can be heat treated.
@steadfasttherenowned2460
Жыл бұрын
What about a titanium lump hammer for wood workers. Or for someone who needs a softer faced hammer for specific things.
@joshm416
Жыл бұрын
Hey Tim, i wonder if doing something like a machinist hammer (the ones that normally have a brass or nylon strike face threaded on) would work titanium body then a harden steel strike face. Keeps the larger surface area face with the reduced weight body.
@jamesbolen4872
Жыл бұрын
Just a ordinary guy, guessing out loud. Could the hardening be enhanced due to the material that was being forged providing heat to the hammer used to forge?
@fharelson4
Жыл бұрын
Titanium “shop” hammer yes please
@erikcourtney1834
Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I mentioned in the last videos comments. This or a chipping gun. And it got no likes, as in no one else thought it was a good idea. 🤦♂️ I see why lmao
@Donavin0
Жыл бұрын
how about heat treat it in oil but do it mild heat treating not red hot but close to it that might make it harder.
@Tek_0135
Жыл бұрын
Use a centerpunch then grind it smooth
@ants84
Жыл бұрын
What about a video trying to forge 24k Gold. Obviously not practical for a functional tool but it would most definitely garner views. Just a suggestion, love the channel Tim. 🔨
@Bobs-Wrigles5555
Жыл бұрын
Pure gold has the highest malleability of all metals, meaning that if you take piece and start hammering it, it will just keep getting wider and thinner, a bit like play dough. It doesn't break at the middle or edges from being worked like other metals, you know how you can break a strip of steel by bending it back and forth, gold doesn't do that. IIRC Hyd Press channel took a lump and just kept squeezing it in different directions and they could return it to roughly same shape over and over.
@oubliette862
Жыл бұрын
I wonder why magnets aren't used to deaden anvils? be an interesting experiment to find out what works best for that purpose. I have a anvil but it too small for testing I can pick it up with 1 hand.
@bjrn-oskarrnning2740
Жыл бұрын
I have used magnets to deaden anvils many times; works great.
@parzival6-251
Жыл бұрын
I wish I had the money for one of them axes
@smiteey
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps look into carbadizing titanium with tungsten carbide on the hammering surface if you haven't already?
@Resomius
Жыл бұрын
12:28 R.I.P. Handle
@wadekelley6797
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps an air hammer with a planish bit ? More force than a needle scaler?
@jeremy8942
Жыл бұрын
It might work well for a sheet metal or jewelers hammer. A jewelers hammer with some cool heat treat blues and purples.
@MemeLordOzai
Жыл бұрын
If i remember right someone did a series of stainless steel damascus with titanium. Try that with m390 maybe🤷♂️
@intellectualiconoclasm3264
Жыл бұрын
I was wondering about needle-scalers or shot-blasting.
@markbreidenbaugh6033
Жыл бұрын
No power hammer!? Come on give it the beans!
@jarlove
Жыл бұрын
Just throwing that out there, but is it possible somehow, to forgeweld a steel face on it?
@DEATER155
Жыл бұрын
You should build a BBQ tool set
@IProHeadhunter
Жыл бұрын
When did Casey Neistat move to Wisconsin
@purplebooger6410
Жыл бұрын
As an auto body and paint guy I vote a body hammer for sheet metal work!?
@Itsyakk
Жыл бұрын
I think jk gets his Bali songs to 50s idk for sure tho but all his knives literally never scratch when dropped on concrete
@8888malte
Жыл бұрын
nice vid! what is the beat of the rain b roll ? so groooovy
@williamcheung8189
Жыл бұрын
Keep the faith!, continue hitting the Ti hammers against each other with better mounts for force transfer, I feel you are not inducing sufficient kinetic force transfer to both Ti surface per cycle + no of cycles over time to have a notable hardening effect. I am not a material scientist, just have a interest in metallurgy and science. Ti hammers are awesome! Thank you.
@auroraborealisknives4019
Жыл бұрын
Some beta titanium alloys can be heat treated to about 45 hrc
@AcerPrime
Жыл бұрын
Do a 95% tungsten alloy hammer!
@T3AMstudios
Жыл бұрын
Beta titanium-3 gold check it out, supposed to be harder and higher yield strength maybe quite expensive though.
@earthknight60
Жыл бұрын
What about a tool steel facing on a titanium hammer?
@blackhammerartisan
Жыл бұрын
TITANIUM
@jamesbarisitz4794
Жыл бұрын
Add a bolt on face of 4140. Replaceable. ✌
@godzilla7382
Жыл бұрын
have you thought about cryo quenching? i don't know much about titanium but i do know some metals benefit from liquid nitrogen quenching. tool steels like drills and other hard/brittle tools. just a thought.
@dolanvincent9630
Жыл бұрын
What about a handheld air hammer?
@dandieu861
Жыл бұрын
The train rail hammer I bought doesn't seem much harder as a backyard guy I mushroomed it
@chrisgilbert3305
Жыл бұрын
Yes, do it
@RetirementFund750
Жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you are basically compressing the molecules in the titanium then couldn’t you just put it in the press and compress it some and compress the molecules that way? Idk it sounds good in my head lol
@tylerekstrom5916
Жыл бұрын
could try an air hammer. more oomph
@ravenbarsrepairs5594
Жыл бұрын
before watching the video, I'm gonna guess that a needle scaler isn't going to do much, as it lacks the mass to actually compress the Ti enough for work hardening to occur.
@DevildogWillbur
Жыл бұрын
Could you make a titanium hammer with a harder metal on the hammer part? Not sure if it would give you the same reduced vibration or if it is possible to get titanium and steel to stick together
@theRealDonaldTrump666
Жыл бұрын
any off the rack grade of titanium should be worse than tool steel. you need a tungsten impurity (hardness) and maybe a silver impurity (tensile strength which helps a little).like 0.2% - 0.3% tungsten and maybe 1% silver. thats custom order or diy. if diy then light bulbs you can get trivial amounts of tungsten
@brandonc2870
Жыл бұрын
Yea
@thomasnissen9572
Жыл бұрын
Could it be the titanium hammer is your goto, becouse it isn't that hard. What if you tried a steel hammer with the same weight, and roughly the same hardness as the titanium hammer.
@markmetzger5430
Жыл бұрын
Wonder if you brought it up to some glowing temperature...And then needle scaled it as it was cooling?🤔
@Bobs-Wrigles5555
Жыл бұрын
Had this same thought, worth trying even if it's on a scrap piece.
@pettervartdalholstad7148
Жыл бұрын
What about β-Ti3Au? I dont know how hard it is but seen some scientofic paper on boast by its hardness🤷🏼♂️
@madsvesth2465
Жыл бұрын
Is that a olde Toyota land. Cruiser
@prophetrob
Жыл бұрын
Tungsten hammer when?
@spectre6612
Жыл бұрын
Think someone else commented below as well, shot peening would certainly work, Really any heavy medium moving fast enough would potentially harden it. I suppose you could also try using the hammer to hit hard objects like ceramic balls or hardened steel balls (Though be careful) and that would essentially be like shot peening but in reverse. I would also like to point out that one of the reason you like using your hammer so much is probably because it is soft and it is softer than steel hammers, a harder surface would transfer more energy and vibrations more efficiently into the hammer but by having it relatively soft it sort of acts more like a spring helping dampen the forces felt.
@MrTheomossop
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be so sure about that, titanium is probably able to store more energy elastically than steel, due to its low modulus and high yield. This means it would be capable transfer more vibration than steel- in practise neither material is deforming significantly so there wouldn't really be a difference. I think the weight would be the main thing. It could be interesting to make a superelastic nitinol hammer to test that thesis though - that would have excellent damping properties.
@spectre6612
Жыл бұрын
@@MrTheomossop sorry not super familiar with a lot of the terms anymore but my thought would be that while yea titanium has a lower modulus than steel or something its still acting more like a spring in general compared to a hardened steel hammer since its deforming and that energy is being used to sheer bonds. At least again compared to a hammer that has a hardened face (which I would think would be harder than the current hardness he has on his hammer right now). But yeah you do bring up a good point. As for weight I could see that being a pretty decent factor since the titanium hammer would be lighter.
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