Started out looking for advice on mixing my music and then suddenly became so relaxed I forgot why I came here.
@Logan_174
8 жыл бұрын
haha samesies
@carpaltullar
7 жыл бұрын
You make so much sense. Why can't normal people explain things like this?
@darz_k.
2 жыл бұрын
That's such a great point about the value of another person other than the mixing engineer listening to the tune, on top of the actual mastering added.
@iamdretaylor
6 жыл бұрын
subscribed because he was teaching at SAE when i attended!
@SonicScoop
7 жыл бұрын
If you're liking Justin's instructional videos here on SonicScoop, you might like his new video course on mixing, called "Mixing Breakthroughs". Check it out at mixingbreakthroughs.com
@stevehansen4755
6 жыл бұрын
This is a good explanation for mix engineers, and I totally agree that separate mastering step is very valuable. Problem for me as a producer, mixer is to convince clients that they should spend the extra money for mastering. They don't understand all the technical reasons for mastering - so I just explain to them in simple terms - that their record will sound clearer and punchier and of course more competitive in loudness and shimmer. I call it the final veneer. All the "mastering" plugs from Izotope and the like are really not a good substitute for proper mastering in my opinion.
@stilloptimist8193
6 жыл бұрын
Great and unbiased explanation! Good listening!
@proverbalizer
5 жыл бұрын
5:30 here's where having great reference mixes is a plus though. If you make your mix sound about as "bright" or "dark" as the references on your speakers you should be pretty good. What about mixing in really great headphones vs. really great mixing speakers... you eliminate the room resonance problems right there... of course speakers and headphones both have their pros and cons
@MikeHeebz
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome information & knowledge dropped as always Justin. Thank you! =)
@MrOzzietheanti
8 жыл бұрын
it's been an good learn
@criddycriddy
8 жыл бұрын
Very Nice explanation, thank you!
@lunarlabaudio
3 жыл бұрын
Love the videos! I was just checking out “Mastering Demystified” and I noticed there isn’t a unit on the “non-musical” things a mastering engineer does, metadata and all that. Do you have any videos where you cover that stuff?
@SonicScoop
3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thats’s covered a bit in the introduction to the course, as well as in the free mastering 101 workshop at sonicscoop.com/mastering101, as well as in this video a bit: kzitem.info/news/bejne/p3x_0Zeei3mFmKg
@QuabmasM
9 жыл бұрын
What are some things to look for when seeking an inexpensive but good mastering engineer online(who isnt necessarily local)? When seeking an inexpensive mastering engineer for a full length album for unsigned rap music, whats a good budget one should have already saved up for starts? Is it unheard of to have an album mastered for around $300?
@maciekkk123
9 жыл бұрын
I think that as pictures can say thousands words Sound Examples can convince more people to mastering. Why Mastering studios don't post before and after examples of mixes to listen online on consumer grade speakers or headphones.. ? End user don't need to be in mastering studio to hear the difference of the end product - it should be noticeable on the consumer grade gear.. the difference what you want pay for.. I think.. Master engineers can say or write anything on their websites and not everyone want to engage into deal with unfamiliar engineer and studio.. On top of that, there is many of mastering studios and engineers to choose.. For me I would like to hear some other peoples music before/after examples online (a few different main genres-similar to demo reel) before I would go to test the place with own music.. Similarly.. these days we rarely download and install some audio plugins, without listen to online audio examples before..
@mrbgnle
7 жыл бұрын
Nice Cat just pick your favorite and perfect sounding album, lookup who did the mastering, lookup their website and send them an email. If you agree upon a price, send them the files to master. Works like that. 50 dollar per track is a common price, even for master studios with great portfolio s.
@SickBoyTV
7 жыл бұрын
So if you decide to make music, since you master other peoples songs, are specialized in that aspect of the recording process, and you have the devoted space to master the track, would it still be "Genuinely impossible" for you to master YOUR track? Who masters the master's mixes? '''\(O.o)/'''
@SonicScoop
5 жыл бұрын
"Who masters the master's mixes?" -Another master! :)
@cankucuk17
4 жыл бұрын
sounded very emotional :) 10:35
@renejrhodes88
8 жыл бұрын
If your record sounds as good as a professional record on your low budget speakers then it's fine. If it isn't then that's due to you not hearing, not due to the gear. Of course there are limits of earpods and such but Andrew Scheps does fantastic work on tanoids and that's it. Seems to me like it's more about learning to use your ears and use decent equipment rather than using fantastic equipment and room which most of us are never going to have anyway.
@Radical_Middle
8 жыл бұрын
+René J Simonpietri it is due to your ears off course, but they need that environment he is all about to give them a fair chance to help you make that pristine track. it is time to take a deeper look in acoustic treatment so you can eq recording not a room.
@johnmorris2170
6 жыл бұрын
René J Simonpietri checking your mixes on cheap apple earbuds only is a bad idea.
@cateador12
5 ай бұрын
How you look the same younger 8 years later? need that mixing tip xD
@SonicScoop
5 ай бұрын
-Jiu Jitsu -Weightlifting -Eating well/properly (most of the time) -Enjoying the life I get to live -Not getting too stressed out about things that could theoretically be stressful -Genes maybe?
@johnmorris2170
6 жыл бұрын
Cutting vinyl in the sixties was different. They didn't make a seperate "Vinyl master." You can't mix what you can't hear. And mastering requires highly detailed full range (20 - 20 000hz ) monitors in a properly treated room. You can't master on a pair of KRK Rocket 5's in an untreated room.
@InnerCitySlickersTV
8 жыл бұрын
I am mixing on two sets of speakers, Rockit 5s and Yamaha 5s. When I play a commercial song and listen on both sets of speakers, there is a change in the sound, but they both sound equally good. When I am playing my mixes on them, the difference is major. Good on the Rockits but not on the Yamahas. What can I do to help get my mixes to sound equally good on both sets. Thanks MM
@proverbalizer
5 жыл бұрын
I would try mixing primarily on the Yamahas (and then see if they still sound ok on the Rokkit's). If you mix on the Yamahas and your mixes still sound like shit on them...I don't know...
@QuabmasM
9 жыл бұрын
The fact is it doesnt mater how well your speakers are if you dont KNOW them. Song A sounds nothing like Song A on Person X's studio speakers however if you are misinformed, you will use Person X's speakers to achieve Song A balance only to find once you have perfectly achieved such a sound, the balance is terrible(unless you were referencing Song A on those same speakers in which case you noticed Song A didnt sound like Song A, yet you mastered your song to sound the same anyway which is the correct way to master and know your speakers). In other words, even songs you know dont like like songs you know when you dont know the speakers. Imagine painting a wall of rainbows all over a canvas and yet as you select colro sand paint they are no the color you know them to be. Youll have to first train your mind to accept that fact before you achieve the perfect final outcome because if you dont you will check your work later only to find how many rainbows look off and dont blend well. So know your speaker and even more, know them by knowing how various mastered songs sound on them in various sound qualities and styles. Then and only then can you begin to mix and master w/o chasing your tail, blowing somebody's ear drums, and achieving the sound you seek.
@michaelmclaughlin6376
2 жыл бұрын
To add to this, something that has worked very well for me: mix and master on a variety of systems. Mix and master the same song on your studio monitors, then keep mixing but switch to everyday stereo speakers, and then switch to headphones, and then switch to everyday $40 headphones. When the mix sounds relatively the same and good on all systems, you're getting somewhere. I ALWAYS do a headphone check since it reveals a lot: overuse of effects that doesn't always appear obvious on speakers, lack of bass above the subs (your mix can sound like it has a great low end on speakers but sound tinny in headphones), and then also stereo balance. There are even some professional mixes I've heard where they clearly didn't check the headphones. After you really know what you're doing, I've noticed you don't actually need headphones once you understand the frequencies you're listening to etc., but for beginners, I think it's a very helpful step and to this day, I never skip it.
@proverbalizer
5 жыл бұрын
9:10 and what if you're fortunate enough to mix in a super-quality high-budget studio where you can also hear things in such detail and clarity. What actually is the difference between "mastering speakers" and "mixing speakers"... aren't they designed with the same intent- to give you great detail and a flat, accurate frequency response?
@InnerCitySlickersTV
8 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to have a mix sound relatively the same on my two set of speakers - Rockit 5 and Yamaha 5? Thanks MM
@tferraro1474
8 жыл бұрын
+InnerCitySlickersTV I would say the only way to answer that question is to take your favorite song from your favorite group on their best album (example Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon - Time) and play that song on those two difference sets of speakers and then ask yourself what the difference was in the sound of that song on those two sets of speakers. That should give you the most accurate answer to your question.
@Hexspa
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr. Colletti, are you an Aries? Moon in Aires? Thanks for the advice.
@fleshtonegolem
8 жыл бұрын
+Hexspa Are our a fan of non scientific ways of placing bias on people based on the time of year they were born? I find it fascinating that most people that are big fans of astrology are not fans of racial bias yet they are doing the exact same thing. They place inescapable attributes, both good and bad, upon someone that they have zero control over.
@Hexspa
8 жыл бұрын
Jesse Gunn Kinda?
@samjslater
8 жыл бұрын
+Hexspa This whole exchange was fun.
@JustinColletti
8 жыл бұрын
I am actually a double Pisces. Sun and moon sign both. Don't ask me how I know that, but apparently I do :)
@ITech2005
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it all comes down to having good reference tracks and knowing them in and out. The better you are at that, room & speakers become irrelevant.
@SimonShackletonMusic
3 жыл бұрын
Room and speakers are *never* irrelevant. They might have less significance, but different tracks will pick up different standing waves and room tones.
@ITech2005
3 жыл бұрын
@@SimonShackletonMusicI agree with the general sentiment. However, this is why you should have several reference tracks and get to know the "sound" of your room. If I can A/B reference with a few solid masters then i can mix in a cardboard box during a thunderstorm. Train to pay attention to frequencies.
@SimonShackletonMusic
3 жыл бұрын
@@ITech2005 Fully agree that knowing the sound of your room (or headphones) is essential.. I just don't buy that that means you can mix anything. Each track presents its own unique challenges.
@marshallm.9787
Жыл бұрын
Can I Mix my project myself and after that go see a professional sound engineer who will mix from what I did or it's better to save time, quality and money* to go directly to a Professional Mixing engineer ? * Money because of the bunch of plug in I need to buy for mixing myself ....... .
@SonicScoop
Жыл бұрын
Here’s my full advice on that. Hope it helps! kzitem.info/news/bejne/0Gl722trsIuki6Q -Justin
@FerozKhan-cz5jj
Жыл бұрын
Think. You
@redblock1382
3 жыл бұрын
im worry console is clipping in the background the whole video
@SonicScoop
3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I don't think those meters are saying what you think they are saying. It's a Mytek DDD-603 unit. They have a red light at the top of the meter that counts overs, but is always on and always red, even when there are 0 overs. If you look more closely, you'll see that the top of the meter is red even when the signal is far below the top of the meter. And you can look at the other meters further down on the left as well to see there is headroom on those. In general, I'd never master to a full 0dbFS, even (and perhaps especially) if the master is hella loud (like in the very hot -8 to -5 LUFS range), so constant clipping shown on meters like those wouldn't be happening even in that case. That said, it was just a loop of material on in the background for some eye candy, so it doesn't really matter. But for the record, there was no unintentional clipping, even there ;-) Hope that helps! -Justin
@redblock1382
3 жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop =0
@roamlikekane
7 жыл бұрын
You look and sound like a mix of Jack Lemmon and Walter Matheau, where of course, you come off as technically gifted with sound advice, comically that's to be determined or maybe irrelevant. Thanks for the info. none the less. Great channel!
@cesiumbob7278
7 жыл бұрын
I have made the decision to hire a separate mix and master engineer. I have realized that mixing and mastering require a tremendous amount of training (whether formally at a college or an apprenticeship), equipment and experience. Just like it took time for me to play the piano under teacher, it takes time to learn to mix or master. The problems I encountered when I attempted to mix my own music was that first my room is not sound treated, second my monitors are substandard, third my mixes were too harsh and or muddy and fourth, I may have been able to,get the mix to sound decent on monitors, but when I listen to the mix on earbuds or table speakers the mix sounded awful and too harsh. Plus, I think you cannot be objective mixing your own music. I have hurt my ears trying to mix my own music, and I realized, I am better off using my time to focus on my playing and pay an audio engineer $300 per song for the mix and I have another mastering engineer who does a fine job and he gives me a discount for 5 song purchases. I make music as a serious hobby and quite frankly, I want my music to sound good and professional. Mixing is deciptively simple but once I appreciated and understood it, I realized how much of a specialized skill it is. I feel very free now that I have a professional mix and master my music. I have realized there are many terrific mix engineers for $300 -500 per song. One thing I have noticed is that all the bands I grew up listening to, whether they were small label or big ALL had professional mix engineers do their songs. Sorry to ramble, but it is my opinion.
@atta1798
6 жыл бұрын
Artists and musicians like you become the best on the field of Mixing and Mastering and already great musicians.
@yusufjouini3481
3 жыл бұрын
Where did you find your mixing and mastering engineer? on which site?
@AngelicStreak
3 жыл бұрын
By that very definition of all speakers being different, it LOGICALLY follows, that it is IMPOSSIBLE to master in a way that will work everywhere, as you boldly claim. It is impossible. You can just aim for the lowest common denominator. How? Wait for it, with AVERAGE sounding speakers. Not with high end speakers. And, finally, most people today listen to music on headphones. Mastering for any kind of loudspeakers is therefore NOT mastering for the majority of listeners.
@SonicScoop
3 жыл бұрын
You’re close to the right answer! You want to master on speakers (and in a room) that have the closest to the average frequency response possible. Some speakers are bright, some are dark, some are bass heavy, some are bass light. So the average of all possible speakers are... totally flat speakers! Getting totally flat speakers and a totally flat room is impossible... but you can get closer and closer. Generally, doing so is fairly expensive, but not prohibitively so. You can start to get to a pretty serviceable place for mastering with $2k invested in speakers and $2k invested in room treatment, though some spend much more, and some may be able to do reasonably good mastering work spending half that amount. As for mastering on headphones, making flat headphones is really, really hard, and getting proper low end extension out of them is very difficult. Accordingly, masters done on reasonably good speaker systems will usually sound very good on a wide range of headphones, while masters done in headphones may sound awful on consumer speaker systems if those headphones aren’t telling you what’s happening in the lows. With that said, I do have a pair of headphones I really like that actually go very deep, and I check every master I do on them. They’re not bad at all. At only $300, I’d absolutely recommend them over most inexpensive room+speaker systems if you didn’t have much to spend. I’ve even used them to complete masters on the road with them with good results. But most headphones don’t fit the bill because most don’t have the flatness or low end extension. The issue of flatness can be mitigated with something like Sonarworks, but the low end extension is a different story. There’s one top mastering engineer (Glenn Schick, who I’ve interviewed), who masters exclusively on headphones. They happen to be insanely expensive headphones in his case, but it can be done. Hope that helps!
@AngelicStreak
3 жыл бұрын
@@SonicScoop Ah, then Glenn Schick knows what he's doing.
@poohdiddydarezeal3738
6 жыл бұрын
I'm da greatest
@SheepdogColumbus
7 жыл бұрын
Not to be an asshole, but these days there is software to do your job. People can match to a good reference track and that's it.
@johnmorris2170
6 жыл бұрын
SheepdogColumbus Amateurs are so funny and cute.....Some cheap mastering plugin is not the same as a $7 000 Manley Massive Passive all tube passive mastering eq unit. Don't full yourself. YYNOT is a hot new progressive rock band heavily influenced by Rush. They record and mix their own songs. And they do a pretty good job. But all their songs are over compressed and way to harsh. Why? The guitarist (very talented) masters his own bands songs.
@SonicScoop
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not so worried about robots taking my job. It's been 4 years since your comment and business has only grown, even as the amount and quality of automated mastering software has also increased. Here are my thoughts as to why that is: Article: sonicscoop.com/2018/05/16/im-not-afraid-landr-auto-mastering-software/ Podcast: kzitem.info/news/bejne/2GamsptrpmR-p3o Here's the brief version: Question: A robot can help you EQ match a reference track. But WHICH of your many reference tracks should you be trying to match? And how closely? Are you compromising on the quality of and sound of your release if you try to match another one too closely? Or is there something about your track that asks for it to be taken in a different direction? Actually matching references is one of the easiest parts of my job, now that I know how to do it. Maybe a robot could help me do that faster. If it could, I might hire it to do that task for me. Why not? But should I always be seeking to match specific references exactly? And if so, which one of the many references the client sends my way? Sometimes they'll all be in very different directions.... ....And should the client's song really be shoehorned into sounding exactly like someone else's song on an overall EQ basis? Is that necessarily serving it? What about considerations like tempo and arrangement, and era and subgenre, and how that should steer you in overall EQ balance? And why are we only talking about the "sound" in a quick AB sip test? What about the emotional impact of the song and enhancing that? If you really think there is no place in art for human taste and judgement, I've got to say, that's kind of weird! Isn't that kind of the whole point? Hope that helps, Justin
@ButcherGrindslam
6 жыл бұрын
You can master your own mixes if you're not deaf as Greg Fidelman and Tom Baker.
@atta1798
6 жыл бұрын
If you understood Audio Mastering and the engineering and artistic critical thinking that it takes.......you would think twice to repeat that sentence,
@ButcherGrindslam
6 жыл бұрын
I thought that more than you think. Greg Fidelman ruined "13", "Subliminal verses", "World Painted Blood" and (of course) "Death Magnetic" (NOT Rubin, he is only producer. Look for Linkin Park and SOAD albums recorded around 2005-2007. They sound good 'cause there was no Fidelman). Tom Baker made AWFUL remastering of "Countdown to extinction" (original mix mastered in 2012): low frequencies were brought up so high that entire album was distorted.
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