The law should be, if you're found not guilty criminally, you shouldn't be allowed to be sued civilly. Much the same as you can't be tried twice under double jeopardy law.
@u.s.aarchangelforgod3679
Ай бұрын
I agree
@MrUnl33t
Ай бұрын
What a beautifull free country that allows you to defend yourself, unlike UK, right? What you are saying is very reasonable, and every reasonable country has it that way, not US, however. Because it is not *eagle scream*
@tacticaltruth6Actual
Ай бұрын
In the majority of, if not all, states, your CRIMINAL attacker can not sue you civilly. However, if it is a social violence type self defense shooting, then there is a chance. That is because the standard is higher in criminal court than civil. Being found not guilty DOES NOT mean you are innocent. See OJ Simpson.
@noneshere
Ай бұрын
I agree... Civil court has Much lower standards then criminal. I guess you can counter sue them though.
@andrewkovach9330
Ай бұрын
I agree.
@jackblack9208
Ай бұрын
I think in a civil case if the person suing looses, they should pay your court cost/ lawyer fees. I think that would cause people to think twice before pursuing a civil case.
@taylorlibby7642
Ай бұрын
That does happen fairly often in civil cases.
@78tag
Ай бұрын
Exactly ! In fact, if you have been found 'not guilty' of a crime - there should be no civil liability, period. I guess there is the option of a counter suit for the trauma you have incurred but that goes right back to - can you afford it? AGAIN - too many lawyers and too many liberal prosecutors !!
@kawikadee9670
Ай бұрын
@@taylorlibby7642 Not in the kangaroo court system we have.
@hillaryclinton1314
Ай бұрын
@@78tag so OJ would have got away with it unscathed
@78tag
Ай бұрын
@@hillaryclinton1314 ...get real - you know that whole thing was a total social/race media farce. The family ended up really getting nothing from that anyway. All of the lawyers benefited from it greatly though - didn't they ??
@Z7d3nR4
Ай бұрын
Someone will sue you for sneezing in their direction, if their lawyer convinces them that they have a chance to make money.
@wlh52
Ай бұрын
That's why you don't leave em standing.
@worldpoole
Ай бұрын
The family can still sue. That’s the example he was giving.
@scottburton509
Ай бұрын
In some states, if your use of force was justified, you have civil immunity for that.
@Greyman77
Ай бұрын
The fact that your assailant's family can come after you even though you were found not guilty underscores the reason other countries laugh at us now. Our court's have become a joke! Turn on daytime television, and what do you see - all these different "judges" who conduct their courtrooms on television for entertainment. That about says it all, right there.
@tacticaltruth6Actual
Ай бұрын
In the majority of, if not all, states, your CRIMINAL attacker can not sue you civilly. However, if it is a social violence type self defense shooting, then there is a chance. That is because the standard is higher in criminal court than civil. Being found not guilty DOES NOT mean you are innocent. See OJ Simpson.
@KonaLife
Ай бұрын
100% correct
@The_Black_Knight
Ай бұрын
Those that have been judged by twelve, and not carried by six, stand our ground. Criminals choose poorly and are rewarded accordingly.
@user-ml4vu2qh1y
Ай бұрын
Yup, this country has gone to 🤬. Weak and disgusting. Ridiculous that anyone can just walk in and file bull🤬 allegations for their own benefit. System is all about manipulation. I am a victim to this as well. Was actually criminally charged for something I never did. Spent thousands of dollars to appeal to get it off my record and by the time I had, I had already served my sentence. If I had a jury trial then I probably would have had a different outcome but somehow, for certain crimes, Judges are given all the power. We all know that when one entity is given all the power, it inevitably leads to corruption. As they say, the system is setup for the criminal.
@theslowwalker
Ай бұрын
The defender should also be able to sue the attackers and/or their family for damages including lawyer fees, stress and anxiety caused be the attacker, property damages and losses including ammo used to defend the innocents, cleaning supplies to maintenance the gun after the defense use, etc.
@Ren505nm
Ай бұрын
And compensation for the "pew pew" used if not returned from evidence.
@tacticaltruth6Actual
Ай бұрын
"The defender should also be able to sue the attackers and/or their family" They can...well not the family but the estate.
@guruthossindarin3563
Ай бұрын
Indiana has a Civil Immunity law in case of justified use of force. Nice thing to have.
@DareToBeDeviant
Ай бұрын
I love hearing more benefits about our state. As much as I want to leave (due to 9 months of winter) the laws which work in our favor keeps me around just a little longer. Greetings from St. Joseph County.
@guruthossindarin3563
Ай бұрын
@@DareToBeDeviant: I'm in Indy 😳 Do a search for "Indiana Gun Owners' Bill of Rights". Good info in there.
@tacticaltruth6Actual
Ай бұрын
"Indiana has a Civil Immunity law in case of justified use of force." So do most states. HOWEVER, it is not that simple. It depends on the charges and the defense. For instance, If you are charged with murder but the prosecution can't prove the elements, that is NOT an adjudication of a justified use of force.
@aaronbishop2516
Ай бұрын
@@DareToBeDeviant Florida has similar civil immunity laws which are much stronger than those of Indiana. In fact, Florida also has immunity from criminal prosecution in cases involving lawful self-defense. If you take your self-defense case to a pretrial hearing judge and make your case based on clear and convincing facts that furnishes legal justification for your act of self-defense, the judge will dismiss the charges and there will be no trial. Florida is the home of Stand Your Ground and has a very strong Castle Doctrine law.
@ljs444
Ай бұрын
Kentucky does too Kentucky's self-defense law, amended in 2006, provides immunity from criminal and civil law for anyone who uses deadly force in self-defense. This immunity applies both at home and away from home. Deadly force can be used when someone believes it's necessary to protect themselves from: death, serious physical injury, kidnapping, sexual intercourse compelled by force or threat, and felony involving threat
@RepentorPerish77
Ай бұрын
Why courts allow this is beyond me..defense attorneys should immediately file for a motion to dismiss and the defendant should file a counter suit for emotional distress they have caused them over the lawsuit
@robertwadas
Ай бұрын
So what does the USSCA do if their the person is found civily liable ? From what they sent me, it looks like the will seek the money back and boot you out.
@USCCAOfficial
Ай бұрын
The policy includes no limit 'defense expenses' which applies to BOTH criminal and civil defense. There is also a separate $2M annual limit just for compensatory damages in civil court.
@robertwadas
Ай бұрын
@@USCCAOfficial What if the person is found guilty by a woke jury. Will They be covered for appeals and civil court after that ?
@johnharvey1356
Ай бұрын
Can I sue the family of my attacker for my emotional distress? No, I'm not kidding. I am very serious.
@taylorlibby7642
Ай бұрын
You can sue the attackers estate, probably won't collect much, but not the family unless you can prove that they've done something really egregious.
@YTnights
Ай бұрын
Maybe for their harassment 🤔
@donireland6218
Ай бұрын
@@taylorlibby7642 what gives them standing is that you're typically being sued by "the estate of John Smith" for negligent homicide. Counter-sue the estate because John inflicted trauma on you when he caused you to shoot him.
@dwayneealy7007
Ай бұрын
No
@johnnygomez3112
Ай бұрын
Please make a video about the recoup clause that is in your policy in which you can ask the defense money back if found guilty. Please clear that clause. Some of us are confused about it. Thanks.
@USCCAOfficial
Ай бұрын
There are two important points in regards to the recoupment clause that should help clarify things. 1) Per the exact policy language, the recoupment clause is ONLY triggered if required by applicable law - not just because a member was found guilty. 2) In all the years that the policy has been a membership benefit, our insurer has NEVER recovered any of the legal fees paid on behalf of members.
@johnnygomez3112
Ай бұрын
@@USCCAOfficial but have there been found guilty?
@4325Airborne
Ай бұрын
Don't leave them alive to sue you.
@miragefd
Ай бұрын
Unjustly backing people into corners under legal guise will eventually just lead to more reasonable men doing unreasonable things.
@freemanman2970
Ай бұрын
So you're saying make sure they don't survive?
@78tag
Ай бұрын
... you'd have to make sure that nobody interested in suing you survives - not feasible.
@worldpoole
Ай бұрын
No, the family etc can still sue.
@danz0007
28 күн бұрын
No , just make sure you NEUTRALIZE the threat !
@pzkw6759
Ай бұрын
I can't understand how you can be found not guilty criminally but, be found liable civilly.
@tacticaltruth6Actual
Ай бұрын
See O.J. Simpson. Not guilty does not mean innocent.
@chadb9270
Ай бұрын
@@tacticaltruth6Actual damn, beat me to the perfect example.
@donireland6218
Ай бұрын
The standard in a civil case is much lower than in a criminal case. In a civil case, all they have to show is that more evidence says you did than says you didn't. That leaves room for SOME doubt. In a criminal case, there is not supposed to be any reasonable doubt.
@pzkw6759
Ай бұрын
@@tacticaltruth6Actual I agree. But, in the criminal case, they know you, and you don't deny shooting your attacker. You argued you shot in self defense and the jury agreed. Now in civil court, you're being told you didn't shoot in self defense.
@jimb4597
Ай бұрын
Thanks Kevin and Tom, very informative discussion. Of course we hope it never happens to us for doing the right thing but still it’s smart to be prepared for it. As many wise people have said, most notably Vince Lombardi, “… hope is not a strategy, fear is not an option “.
@kennethreisigl5477
Ай бұрын
LAWYERs are paid to stand in front of a judge and say, I want to bring up a civil suit People don't and can't What part of the system is Corrupt ?
@culturehorse
Ай бұрын
'Do this if that happens..'? Do WHAT if 'that' happens?? You didnt say what to do to indemnify that scenario, did you?
@draco47man
Ай бұрын
Dead people can't sue you
@AMX86
Ай бұрын
But their money grubbing families can.
@knightingale9833
Ай бұрын
There are people who have been forced to pay their dead attacker’s child support
@The_Black_Knight
Ай бұрын
Correction. Individuals who are unalive cannot present witness to their crimes.
@worldpoole
Ай бұрын
@@knightingale9833I’ve heard medical bills, never thought of child support yikes!
@chadb9270
Ай бұрын
I heard somewhere that dead people can’t sue you. Maybe someone can confirm that once someone is no longer alive they no longer have the ability to file a lawsuit???
@calebhodson7421
Ай бұрын
The thing about this thats sad is even if the attacker survives and you are acquitted both criminally and civilly, the attacker more than likely has been busted before on other charges and will more than likely be able to work the system on a lesser charge if they get a lenient prosecutor.
@diverdan1941
Ай бұрын
If I have an attacker I can guarantee he cannot and will not sue me.
@78tag
Ай бұрын
I can tell you don't give a chit, but statements like these are a prosecutors dream if it comes to a trial. Be sure you really want to paint this picture.
@Sinner-sv2pi
Ай бұрын
But the Relatives will Civilly sue you. I'd remove your statement like the other Commentor said.
@nikkibright3496
Ай бұрын
Dead men don't testify!!
@kyelsavage6296
Ай бұрын
Lawyers make the laws that they can benefit from. Our laws are money traps for the common man, put in place by lawmakers that are often former lawyers/prosecutors. Our justice system is anything but a justice system.
@1timothydillon
Ай бұрын
Read Scaling Force by Lawrence and Kane years ago, couldn't believe it was possible to survive a criminal case, only to then lose in a civil court.
@The_Black_Knight
Ай бұрын
Attempted following a home invasion. Judge threw the civil case out for medical injuries after reading the criminal defense police report. Individual convicted of assault with deadly weapon, criminal trepass, destruction of property, and burglary. No regrets in action of self defense of property and personal safety. A lesson was learned, and mistake never repeated. Figure out the wisdom.
@robpolaris7272
Ай бұрын
Anytime someone is committing a crime they or their family should not be allowed to file a civil suit.
@jimrhodes8491
Ай бұрын
Did I miss something? “Do this if that happens”. Do what? Hire a lawyer that is pretty much common sense.
@DavidDavidunderthebridgeChampi
Ай бұрын
In Texas with Castle Doctrine and other laws, it is difficult to sue someone that legally defends themselves.
@robertsanders9904
Ай бұрын
Deceased attacker cannot tell Lies. A criminal will always lie.
@johnmumbyii1717
Ай бұрын
It boggles my mind the cost of exercising your constitutional rights
@celtman1213
Ай бұрын
Mississippi has a law that prevents being sued if you are found not-liable in a shooting
@shw1965
Ай бұрын
I didn't get it. Do what is that happened? Did these guys mentioned what should we do if that happens?
@Drivin_Sideways
Ай бұрын
"Can your attacker sue you?" Only if you've been neglecting your range days 😂
@ImSkye
Ай бұрын
"There's an easy way to prevent your attacker from suing you..."
@martinwalker9386
25 күн бұрын
Do some “Castle Doctrine” and “Stand Your Ground” laws bar civil prosecution if the incident is found to be “self defense?”
@AndyHess-jy6vx
Ай бұрын
"Exonerated in a criminal court" is not necessarily an accurate statement of a not-guilty verdict. Respectfully, not guilty means that prosecutor didn't meet the burden of proof. A jury could could believe that a defendant was probably guilty, but since probably means a doubt exists, such a jury would have to find not guilty. Not really an exoneration. A not guilty verdict could, but doesn't necessarily mean, a jury believed the defendant was innocent. A jury never decides innocence and never "exonerates" a defendant. However, a civil jury, using the same evidence, could find a defendant liable for wrongful death (Assuming a homicide) because a civil jury only needs a preponderance - "more likely than not" amount of evidence to find someone liable. Sobering.
@davidshipes4247
Ай бұрын
He wouldn't make trial.
@scottcarlson9913
Ай бұрын
Rather a moot point..If my life is threatened I'm not gonna worry about possible repercussions if I defend myself or my family.
@jorgeeperez9754
Ай бұрын
Gentlemen am new on the channel and let me tell you, your experience helps a lot. Thanks you for taking the time to do the videos.
@robertross5201
Ай бұрын
Dead person not file lawsuits
@kawikadavid8958
Ай бұрын
Then you have to counter sue for a higher amount, and like Tom said, "Massive checks."
@Jose-hq8gn
Ай бұрын
If you are cleared in the criminal, the civil trial must be a joke, the only guilty one was the attacker.. otherwise we are looking for insanity..!!
@mesapysch
Ай бұрын
Well that wasn't helpful!
@markl1240
Ай бұрын
That would be why you make sure they can't. And will never attack anyone else.
@tthomestead2763
Ай бұрын
So, what does USCCA do to help those of us with your insurance if we are sued civilly?
@USCCAOfficial
Ай бұрын
The 'defense expenses' coverage within the policy is for expenses related to both criminal and civil defense, and there is a separate $2M annual limit just for compensatory damages in civil court.
@geraldfuller8668
Ай бұрын
Can you return and sue the person that sued you civilly?
@davidfurst7233
Ай бұрын
So what are we supposed to do if this happens?
@BruceCross
Ай бұрын
No good deed goes unpunished. The same thing has happened to good Samaritans. The real world isn't fair or just.
@mds1171
Ай бұрын
What's criminal is a system that forces you to pay lawyers that kind of money to get defended in court.
@78tag
Ай бұрын
Nice title - DO THIS IF THAT HAPPENS - so this turns out to be a 6 minute long commercial for the USCCA right ?? This is a direct result of TOO MANY LAWYERS and TOO MANY LIBERAL PROSECUTORS !!
@keltecshooter
Ай бұрын
That's why you reduce the target
@user-zd1du1zk7r
Ай бұрын
It really is stupid that a criminal can sue you when you were proven not guilty. If that’s the case, then you should be able to then sue the criminal when he is found guilty or not and get money from him or her. When criminals start having more rights than the victims, there’s something wrong with the system that needs to be changed immediately, go ahead try and make me a victim. I’m a firm believer in that it’s better to be judged by 12 then carried by six.
@docbailey3265
Ай бұрын
I think you can’t be sued in Florida if you are cleared in criminal court. Am I right?
@larrysfarris
Ай бұрын
If you get sued civilly and you’ve spent all your money on lawyers, the best family members can do is get a judgement against you, right?
@nYdGeo
Ай бұрын
Do what? The title says if you are sued by an attacker (or their family, etc.), 'do this if that happens'. Do what?
@jguilletjr
Ай бұрын
Not if I do it right. He wont be around to sue me.
@gb23a
Ай бұрын
And again the laws are in favor of the perpetrators. It's exactly why we have so much crime in this country
@edwinsepulveda5550
Ай бұрын
This is contrary to reason.
@cheifreal
Ай бұрын
Here in texas the cops have told me and my dad multiple times if you have to defend youself kill the person because if ya just hurt them they can sue.
@heidellsgalvez9537
Ай бұрын
If you get attacked make sure they cant sue
@worldpoole
Ай бұрын
This went over some of y’all heads. Watch the vid again for clearer understanding.
@ghostprepperpatriot
Ай бұрын
I think there should be laws in the books where if a person gets shot in the commission of a felony and survives or is survived by family members the criminal nor the family (if the person dies) should be able to sue in a civil case. Its like Skee-Lo went out to rob you with a gun, it is determined that you acted in self defense and cleared criminally, but here comes Skee-Lo's family to finish what Skee-Lo started. Of course self defense would have to be proven beyond all doubt, and if so that person should not be subjected to a civil suit. Good old democrats ruining our judicial system.
@ljs444
Ай бұрын
Kentucky's self-defense law, amended in 2006, provides immunity from criminal and civil law for anyone who uses deadly force in self-defense. This immunity applies both at home and away from home. Deadly force can be used when someone believes it's necessary to protect themselves from: death, serious physical injury, kidnapping, sexual intercourse compelled by force or threat, and felony involving threat
@dontsmackyourscreenimnotar718
19 күн бұрын
Good to hear, as I'm a Ky. resident and I also own a few firearms.
@Anamnesis010
Ай бұрын
Contemptible world we live in.
@deebee4575
Ай бұрын
Not in Florida!
@AttyTomGrieve
Ай бұрын
Attorneys ruin everything
@USCCAOfficial
Ай бұрын
Unless the attorney is the one and only, Tom Grieve! 😅
@morgangallowglass8668
3 күн бұрын
Utter madness!
@JoseGarcia-dt3dq
Ай бұрын
My attacker won't sue...................... Because my attack won't anymore time left to sue
@McFaddis
Ай бұрын
As time goes on, everything is a joke. We're living in the matrix. Criminals or their family's shouldn't get crap
@user-su5uf5yv1w
Ай бұрын
I hate violence.
@bobclifton8021
Ай бұрын
Just make sure he's not around to sue you or anybody else.
@2bstiff584
Ай бұрын
here a case guy breaks in to home trips on a toy and sues home owner and wins
@tonyeden954
Ай бұрын
Leave behind no witness
@jeepninja1
26 күн бұрын
If your attacker is sueing you, you need to train harder. You're a lousy shot.
@edwardknudsen4806
Ай бұрын
Not if he's dead
@Jeff-jt6ip
Ай бұрын
Does being a USCCA member cover the attorney fees for a civil case?
@USCCAOfficial
Ай бұрын
Yes! The no limit 'defense expenses' within the policy is for both criminal AND civil defense. There is also a separate $2M annual limit just for compensatory damages.
@combatvolta
Ай бұрын
It makes no sense
@rlm9825
Ай бұрын
So are you saying we need to take out all the family members 😮
@aaronburson1427
Ай бұрын
Leave no witness 😂😂😂😂
@user-su5uf5yv1w
Ай бұрын
Or post wall H.
@MrJlengua
Ай бұрын
The hole system is to blame, no doubt.
@robedmund9948
Ай бұрын
If you don't aim well, probably.
@user-su5uf5yv1w
Ай бұрын
Hate renting hate the Idiot's, I put up with daily & hate being alone nonstop I never had children.
@DonaldSanders-hb2qg
Ай бұрын
Not if there dead.
@charliejones7574
Ай бұрын
....double tap...
@MENSA.lady2
Ай бұрын
Only if your a poor marksman
@HGAviator
Ай бұрын
I dont own anything of value/cash in my name. Sue me all yuou want. You aint getting a dime.
@garyvoll4103
Ай бұрын
This is a job, that needs Tony Sapprano
@nicolascardillo7615
Ай бұрын
Hey can u guys make a video about Massachusetts New Bill H.4885!!! What about your member on that state, What legal action can we take n will u be helping? This bill was created n modified after the Supreme Court Ruling on Bruen, n it an outright contradiction against it n all of their new rules are unconstitutional.
@martinsopchak8218
Ай бұрын
Not if he's pushing up daisies 😊.
@patrickkelly9721
Ай бұрын
Justifyanlu defend your life, just to be rapid by attorneys
@crp9347
Ай бұрын
Can't sue if they're dead
@stevemaurer8454
Ай бұрын
It's their family that sues.
@crp9347
Ай бұрын
@@stevemaurer8454 well, then I can sue them for their relative forcing me to shoot them in defense. Not any more stupid than them suing me for defending me and family.
@MrWorf53
Ай бұрын
So what are we supposed to do? Your title says to "Do This If That Happens." But you never answer the question.
@draginfly1299
Ай бұрын
Dead man can’t sue you. Just ask him😊
@user-su5uf5yv1w
Ай бұрын
Too many weak people.
@yagarmeister1502
Ай бұрын
In the title, in parenthesis, you have "Do this if that happens"... Do what?
@khaleb36
Ай бұрын
Always in California, the most ridiculous cases, I love my state ( California) but the law here is a little bit crooked, just a little bit.😂😂😂
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