Astounding these companies are charging $8-10k for engineering that won't pass QC on Lego toys.
@firstname7780
3 жыл бұрын
ExDuris, the frames cost 200$ Taiwan with 50$ logistics. Rest is markup. Time, Look, Sarto, Enve, Daccordi are the real gucci superlative built, be it not necessarily the latest computational r&d. but it is a scam that will end once china takes over taiwan..
@slasher9883
3 жыл бұрын
To be fair to Lego, they do take design and QC quite seriously (unlike some of these jokers in the bike industry).
@rkan2
3 жыл бұрын
@@firstname7780 You don't get 200$ carbon frames from Taiwan lol. Taiwanese stuff ain't cheap. Try 2x China price, so at least 1000$
@DM-hw4cr
3 жыл бұрын
That's why you usually get a lifetime warranty these days included
@jamsxr
3 жыл бұрын
@@firstname7780 you’re wrong 😑
@kitten-inside
3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, yes, the self-disassembling frame design. How efficient.
@cup_and_cone
3 жыл бұрын
So basically every time the bike's bars are accidentally hyper extended, the frame is destroyed. I wonder how many frames the EF Education team has gone through?
@glennoc8585
3 жыл бұрын
The mechanics may have eliminated the metal stop.
@cup_and_cone
3 жыл бұрын
@@glennoc8585 Definitely possible. No doubt I would be taking a Dremel to the metal tab if I owned one of these.
@rp6760
3 жыл бұрын
@@cup_and_cone the stop is there to prevent the internal cable routing through steerer tube from damage or pull out....hydraulic pipes.. 😬
@futurememeudontgetyet1202
3 жыл бұрын
@@rp6760 Just.. do them longer.
@patrickparisienne1917
3 жыл бұрын
@@cup_and_cone why not? Can always just use a file I suppose....
@TheGotoGeek
3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. In order to solve a problem created by a feature that has no benefit they created a solution that does damage to the product. Way to go Cannondale!
@gokaygs
3 жыл бұрын
I like watching you stand there all dumbfounded in disbelief man! I’m gonna watch that cervelo video again and get another good laugh. I really appreciate the honest and technical perspective, people are buying and riding these things with their lives on em.
@Sir_Godz
3 жыл бұрын
Just astounding that someone approved that design feature for production
@cup_and_cone
3 жыл бұрын
Let me guess.... A junior product engineer fresh out of college who doesn't mind the poor salary because they landed a dream job working in the bike industry.
@valiantabello
3 жыл бұрын
@@cup_and_cone that's who would have designed it, maybe. A senior engineer approved it, then QC approved it, then the manufacturer didn't catch it. It's a massive fuck up.
@sylvainmichaud2262
3 жыл бұрын
Tell me how many people who buy these bikes wouldn't screw their own customers. It's funny how most people get offended when they're taken advantage of while participating in the same type of operations in their own line of work.
@valiantabello
3 жыл бұрын
@@sylvainmichaud2262 you're engaging in a logical fallacy known as false equivalence. Even if you weren't, you make no point in what you said.
@sylvainmichaud2262
3 жыл бұрын
@@valiantabello All these circumlocution and pseudo reasoning to come up with no argument to prove me wrong ? You really want to be perceived like an intellectual but because of the lack of arguments you come across like someone who's simply saying in an elegant manner : "you're full of BS !" It has no value.
@RICHARD.WRIGHT1
3 жыл бұрын
I WANT HAMBINI'S UNCENSORED DIAGNOSIS ON THIS ONE PLEASE....
@vastosbicycles8325
3 жыл бұрын
Great video after a long time, great to see you again.
@fabianvonbusse6272
3 жыл бұрын
I have got this frame and this is precisely what happened to it. I had to spend some 500 euros for the repair. Something tells me that Cannondale should pay me that back.
@samisuru2
3 жыл бұрын
Well, the owner's manual clearly states: "NOTICE Do not force the steering past the stop points. If the front end steering of the bikes is over-loaded (due to e.g. a handlebar strike, a crash, etc.) damage to the frame, fork or pin may result. This type of damage is not covered by the limited warranty." I swear, i will never ever buy a Cannondale. They knew this was shit design from the beginning.
@mrcats85
3 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem… 500 euro to replace the frame. Maybe we can do a class action against cannondale.
@brownshit1
3 жыл бұрын
A small metal axe built into a carbon bike? What a nice feature.
@kurttaylorgaubatz1288
3 жыл бұрын
A blade-type design: It's Aero!
@cyrusalthor8583
3 жыл бұрын
Metal for added durability.
@TheyForcedMyHandLE
3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand your comment. There's bound to be metal components molded in with the carbon.
@MazzaJ
3 жыл бұрын
Observation of the day ahaha! 😂
@randellgribben9772
Жыл бұрын
planned obsolescence... and quick at it
@iancanuckistan2244
3 жыл бұрын
I learn from my mistakes. I repeat them perfectly over and over again.
@kevinfrost1579
3 жыл бұрын
Reflecting after re-visiting your previous vids going back to 2019 . Seems key industry 'leading' companies repeatedly demonstrate apparent inability to conceive and produce adequate steerer and forks. No lessons learnt, basic errors reproduced through "less than ideal" design as you point out with exemplary diplomacy, calmness, detail, patience. You do tremendous public service for cycling. Keep heart - ALL cyclists need to see your work. 👏👏👏. Info a potential lifesaver. Thank you.
@danc1829
3 жыл бұрын
I was looking at these think I'll AVOID now 😂 worrying that big brands get things soooo wrong.
@dannydefe
3 жыл бұрын
Is the same one who designed bb30? What a genius!!!
@Jkl158
3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! Would love to see a follow up on the superstrata bike, a lot more details have come out about it
@LuescherTeknik
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I haven't looked at that lately, I will check it out.
@MrSzwarz
3 жыл бұрын
Inner cable routing was probably the reason why "designer" wanted to limit fork turn. Buy simple designs and reliable bikes brand LOOK or TIME.
@jasrod2012
2 жыл бұрын
Both those brands make fantastic bikes. They may not be the most aero but the build quality is fantastic and second to none really.
@davidross8233
3 жыл бұрын
This looks like something I would design.
@mochno1
3 жыл бұрын
we should get feedback from the Cannondale
@DavidJones-sc6jc
3 жыл бұрын
Why? They don’t care as they already got a fool’s money. Lol.
@iberiksoderblom
3 жыл бұрын
The only feedback that matters: Don't make stupid designs like that ! I'll bet its not even an engineer that has done it, but a CAD designer, with now real knowledge of materials. But I've seen engineers produce lots of sloppy and idiotic designs as well, so...
@einundsiebenziger5488
3 жыл бұрын
... get the* feedback from * Cannondale.*
@alexkinnane5831
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like you and hambini should do a collaboration roasting for designs like this one and the s5
@plantfuelled8912
3 жыл бұрын
Hmm no. Hambini is a 2nd grade aerodynamics engineer and a huge man-child. He would bring Luescher into disrepute with his immature personal attacks and total lack of objectivity.
@robbeelsas
3 жыл бұрын
@@plantfuelled8912 agreed. A collab with PeakTorque would be a much better option
@sylvainmichaud2262
3 жыл бұрын
A solution that is almost worst than the problem it's supposed to solve. Engineering at its best.
@powernab8457
3 жыл бұрын
That line was well good!
@oreocarlton3343
3 жыл бұрын
What problem is it suposse to solve lol
@sylvainmichaud2262
3 жыл бұрын
@@oreocarlton3343 Have you been drinking touch much cheap Lumbrosko wine lately ?
@crack0n
3 жыл бұрын
@@oreocarlton3343 internal cables I think
@oreocarlton3343
3 жыл бұрын
@@crack0n ah yes, it would snap them, still horrible design
@LeBator
3 жыл бұрын
My favourite horror movie channel! Can’t thank you enough for all you’re doing Raoul. Everyone involved with bicycles absolutely must watch all your videos. We pour tons of money into these things especially the upmarket stuff so the least we can expect is an acceptable level of safety and durability but as you’ve so ably demonstrated in many if not most cases that’s just expecting too much. Our lives are on the line here! Can’t sue anyone when you’re dead.
@Sills71
3 жыл бұрын
Cannondale used to make great bikes. Now they make overpriced junk. Other than to resell, I would not take one if you gave it to me. A sad end for what was once a great "made in America" (and it really was) brand. Great video! Thanks for the update.
@luukspijkerman8939
3 жыл бұрын
Such a shame...
@daveyponderosa9549
3 жыл бұрын
It is rather unfortunate Buddy. I’ve owned a couple of Cannondale’s, they were older models though back when they were great bikes.
@TheyForcedMyHandLE
3 жыл бұрын
Just a note from an engineer's perspective: if two parts are going to collide, all other things equal, I'd tend to design the cheaper of the two fail first.
@bikescience1
3 жыл бұрын
And the one that's less likely to cause a fatal accident
@sebastianm2381
3 жыл бұрын
That's beyond stupid, really. I think it's a bad idea to begin with to design a bike frame in a way so that steering travel is limited. Because even if it was reinforced down there at the headtube with metal inserts, a crash might still be too much for it. Admittedly, your handlebar can also damage your top tube in a crash, but the surface area there is usually much greater and your handlebar is most likely wrapped in soft bar tape.
@jaro6985
3 жыл бұрын
One issue with this is they have hoses going through that area, so if travel is not limited it could pinch or cut the hoses. But then they may have been better off reinforcing the hose and using that as a travel limit instead.
@borano2031
3 жыл бұрын
Why do I laugh when Ralph Luescher says " genius designer"??? Thank you!! Rgr
@davidlenneberg4303
3 жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty bad design of a bike frame when they charge so much. I bet they don’t even cover that under warranty.
@leeharding8306
3 жыл бұрын
You literally couldn’t make it up. This cables in the frame obsession is leading to some utterly stupid heavy designs. I think I will get a Giant TCR advance SL next. Giant actually know what they are doing and focus on the product rather than the marketing. Cannondale should give everyone a replacement when they’ve done the design properly. I’ve heard Cannondale are trying to cover this up. I won’t be buying a Cannondale again. They were good once but it’s all gone to pot now.
@Sills71
3 жыл бұрын
Pro teams go through a TON of frames... at least 10 per rider (not counting TT bikes). That is a pretty big "carbon footprint". But no one seems to care. Think about how it would help the development of the product if the teams were limited in how many frames they could use and bike manufacturers were forced to make a durable product... and it would be better for the plant too.
@SurpriseMeJT
3 жыл бұрын
I really wonder how much these frames cost to make and if the teams are getting the frames "at cost". The price to the manufacture, which is based almost totally on outsourced labor, has got to be pretty low.
@NewEnglandDirtRoadie
3 жыл бұрын
@@SurpriseMeJT i would assume the pro teams get them (and everything else) for free, and then pass along the cost to the consumer. the sport, at the professional level, is nothing more than advertising and marketing. if the bicycle industry received 1/1000th of what the automotive industry received in corporate welfare, a Pinnarelo F12 with Enve and Super Record EPS would cost $49.99
@Sills71
3 жыл бұрын
@@SurpriseMeJT Bike makers PAY teams to ride their product... the teams do not buy frames. The cost for a manufacturer like Trek, Cdale or Specialized to make a frame is $150 for a low end frame to about $700 for a top end frame. The real costs of selling high end carbon frames is distribution and marketing, not manufacturing.
@davidgarza2267
3 жыл бұрын
People bag on chinese carbon because "they don't do proper R&D". Yet this is a product of proper R&D??!!
@stephenmorris6202
3 жыл бұрын
You, Peak Torque and Hambini have exploded the myth that there is design expertise in the bike industry. Significant design flaws are repeated and are often dangerous eg carbon clinchers. Indeed so serious that done form of set of safety standard seems way overdue, quite apart from the fact that people are paying a fortune for these products.
@superprinz7619
3 жыл бұрын
Just checked my 2020 SS Evo. Alas, I have the same kind of damage - the metal blade has eaten a few millimetres into the carbon ramps on both sides of the head tube, and there is early delamination/bulging on of the lower end of the right head tube side. The bike was never crashed, just ridden normally for a year. The only reason I can think of is that I regularly carry my bike up the stairwell to my apartment, and the limiter engages in these occasions regularly (but without high forces, at least so I thought, being unaware of the metal blade design/self-destruction mechanism). I am appalled that there is no recall from Cannondale yet. Seems like they want to brush it under the carpet - the 2021 model apparently has a metal reinforcement in that area. Conveniently, there's an addendum to the user manual stating that specifically this damage is excluded from the limited warranty. @Raoul - do you think this is cosmetic or structural, i.e. can I still ride my bike or is this now an expensive piece of junk?
@Bungle2010
3 жыл бұрын
Obviously this is a bit of a design flaw, but if your fork is constantly being bashed against the end stops then you are doing something seriously wrong!
@jiajunyang1573
3 жыл бұрын
Watched it today and it made me happy about my decision to return my supersix yesterday. Every time I took it in and out of the apartment , in and out of the elevator, it bumps into that little axe a little. Dodge a bullet here.
@andrewsbenn
3 жыл бұрын
Ya you did. Mine broke randomly with very little pressure applied to it.
@jiajunyang1573
3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewsbenn feel sorry for you... Sad that the bike is still fast and comfortable.. Too bad this feature ruins it.
@PeakTorque
3 жыл бұрын
Oh. My. Fuck. What the fuck.
@kevinfrost1579
3 жыл бұрын
Raoul 👍 your sense of palpable disbelief shared. Now's the opportunity for Cannondale to show their commercial integrity and cease production of this ill considered design and to recall those already sold. Designing potential problems into a critical steering component ........ USA liability lawyers will no doubt be rubbing their hands with glee. Over to Cannondale . Lets watch this space.🤨
@Rover200Power
3 жыл бұрын
This sort of thing is why I've never gone through with buying a new carbon bike despite a lot of temptation.
@davidnicholson6680
3 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to believe that the only frame brands that have their act together are Giant, Time and Look.
@jamsxr
3 жыл бұрын
Specialized do okay... have you seen the Look tear down? 👀
@nealcaffrey1251
3 жыл бұрын
@ Luescher Teknik If you can choose one Race and one Endurance geometry frame to yourself, what will you choose. It would be interesting to see some list what you can recommend and what should avoid :)
@eamonncoady9823
3 жыл бұрын
Another highly informative video. Thank you.
@johnsmith1474
3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see survey results as to the different ways manufacturers secure a fork from swinging too far.
@seitenryu6844
2 жыл бұрын
The current Trek Knock Block design is pretty good. Even thigh it requires a couple extra parts, they're all replaceable and metal. They even have a retrofit, so you can use aftermarket stems. I may not like the application on mtb, but they executed it well.
@antoinedoinell
3 жыл бұрын
Self destruct mode engaged 🪤
@BennoSattler
3 жыл бұрын
Even if viewers point out something about your videos, that you secretly may fear to be true, it is still no reason to change anything. And definitely not a reason to be apologetic about it. If I had to say something, it is: You do how and what feels best to you, we are coming for the content.
@waynosfotos
3 жыл бұрын
Man we all missed your expertise! Just wanted to check if you received my Bottecchia EMME 2?
@LuescherTeknik
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I sent an email when it arrived, didn't you receive it?
@waynosfotos
3 жыл бұрын
@@LuescherTeknik Ah sorry, must of missed it, as long as it is there, there was a bit of confusion this end sending from my local bike shop. Also heard you are involved wth Bastion bikes, would love to see some content on your involvement and why these bikes are special? Cheers
@superprinz7619
3 жыл бұрын
Where is the recall? Do people have to get hurt first, when the head tube suddenly cracks, due to this crazy dangerous design??
@maxgrass8134
3 жыл бұрын
I hate so see the words Cannondale and Fail together but I know a fail when I see one and this really is a very poor solution. However I don't like that the engineers always get all the blame. They never make these kind of decisions. They come with ideas, some better, some worse and at the ende some product manager decides he wants it made totally dfferentbfor x-y reasons. In no way was this selected as the preferred solution by an engineer. Apart from that, from the damage in the frame I suspect that there was more to it than just a poor design: a loose headset compression clamp. It's hard for me to see any other way for the little metal know on the fork to gauge the carbon on the frame the way it did. If everything was tight it should go right through the carbon and split it apart. There is no way for any part of the assembly to compress (fork shaft) or stretch (frame head tube) that much for the little metal know to move over the frame limiter.
@maxgrass8134
3 жыл бұрын
@RollinRat BTW, I ride my own tig welded frames. MTB and road
@maxgrass8134
3 жыл бұрын
@RollinRat my caad12 Cannondale creaked from about 1000k onwards. I still like the bike. But the BB 30 just does not work.
@danfuerthgillis4483
3 жыл бұрын
And people laughed at me for getting a Sava carbon bike which uses an older properly designed Giant frame lol
@WillCovy
3 жыл бұрын
After seeing things like this and having a brand new Orbea frame crack after only two weeks of gentle riding, I'm very hesitant to buy another carbon bike. It's a great material but so many CO panties don't seem up to engineering and quality control requirements.
@hippoace
3 жыл бұрын
buy Giant
@Furui93Shin
3 жыл бұрын
At least it cuts through the carbon as well as they claim it should cut through the air.
@IdontNeedHandles
3 жыл бұрын
Most my cycling buddies who experience broken frames and forks rode Cannondales. The second worst are Cervelos.
@milliebays1801
3 жыл бұрын
Both owned by Dorel
@bradmac1299
3 жыл бұрын
And then you have Monza Imports here in Australia to deal with who will try any excuse under the sun to try avoid warranty on Cannondale. You can’t even get hold of Dorel so if Monza decide not to replace frames, you stuffed.
@MDVH92
3 жыл бұрын
How do these people get engineering degrees? Shouldn't they have a supervisor with enough experience to reject their design before it ever makes it into production?
@iberiksoderblom
3 жыл бұрын
Would be really interresting to investigate how many money those companies use on R&D, marketing, legal work (patents, fighting off dissatified costumers..., and more...), and what is just clean profits to the board and shareholders. My bet is, that R&D gets the least amount of money.
@borano2031
3 жыл бұрын
I presume the circleshaped indent you see behind the gouge is from the outer race of the headset bearing, at 3.10?? Great manufacturing, Cannondale.. Rgr
@GeorgeD1
3 жыл бұрын
Remember guys, watch at 1.25 playback speed...
@kineticvelo5523
3 жыл бұрын
Carbon. Bikes frames 10 years ago were built correctly now there just junk and QC departments need to wake up !! Great video this will I’m sure get back to cannondale
@phildunn1983
3 жыл бұрын
Don't know why they couldn't just bond in a rubber bump stop of some kind. Really disillusioned with the bike industry and their lack of decent design engineering.
@Sir_Godz
3 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't matter. The PSI is just far too high. The solution for a stop to work would have to include a substantial increase in surface area just to start with and then a impact damper would be needed. The problem is this style of head tube for aero purposes.
@phildunn1983
3 жыл бұрын
@@Sir_Godz agree in that current design and there would have to be some level of compromise somewhere. The issue is one of safety for me. This design is unsafe in my opinion. I've had a headtube go on me before which was an incredibly unpleasant experience as it gave zero warning.
@onilovni1234
2 жыл бұрын
Since this video in may 2021 we had a new groupset from Shimano that costs 5000$, the Tarmac SL7 recall, the Bianchi steerer fail. It's official, the Bike industry is stupid AF and making me want to puke.
@tobycolin6271
3 жыл бұрын
When you design on a computer, and ship it off to the Far East for manufacturer and the customer is your beta what do we expect. After 35 in aircraft and f1 if you put your hand up and use your experience and expertise to highlight a problem your a trouble maker. 1990s 4 year in the school, 5 on the tools, then interview and selection 5 years more college and supervised testing as a technician then I could apply to be an aerospace test engineer, today 3 years at uni and a good interview and your in.
@keinpietz7697
3 жыл бұрын
The money printing machines go "skrrrrrrt".
@tobycolin6271
3 жыл бұрын
@@keinpietz7697 i once had a graduate walk round the back of my pc after I told him how we designed metrology parts. I asked “what are you looking for?” He replied “where does the part come out” he didn’t finish the week.
@crack0n
3 жыл бұрын
its kinda like a steering stop on a motorcycle...but when metal meets carbon -_-... As an engineer working in a complete different sector, you can always tell yourself...if everything goes down the river you can always shine in the bike industry by common sense XD
@horrovac
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how people who couldn't engineer their way out of a wet paper bag can get a job in the industry. How come that this idiocy can go through every step through to the production without anyone crying out that they're out of their minds? The toolmakers, the mould-makers... Possibly they even had. But since they're almost certainly in China, and the management makes an impenetrable barrier between production and ... erm.... "engineering", or possibly because they don't even dare say anything and "make trouble" lest they get fired immediately, anyone who had clearly seen that this can't possibly go well, nobody told the genius who is supposed to know this stuff... I say it over and over again: the standards of engineering in the bike industry are piss-poor, and even that is charitable. This is ONE of the reasons I always want to build my own bikes. I want to see this crap before it's hidden inside. I would have immediately filed it away, just like I did with the "lawyer lips" my fork came with. The reason they thought they needed to limit the travel is probably because they wanted to make the brake hose internally routed at ANY cost, and found that if they don't limit it with the way they designed the channels, it will get pinched. I don't want a totally internally routed bike that gives me a 0.01% improvement because the cable is hidden in the frame, and the bike looks "clean". I don't want them gauging a HUGE hole in the crown of the fork above one of the legs just they can hide the cable within, hiding it from view. I want a fork that doesn't break when I apply max braking power. While writing this, I just solved this problem of internal routing more elegantly and safely. Make the frame as normal, then add a fairing above the cables that can unclip when the fork moves too far. Let it hinge on the top end - perhaps make it spring-loaded so it snaps back after the front wheel is straight again, then route it through the leg of the fork or through the fork and then behind the leg. This way you could even take the fork off the bloody bicycle without having to re-bleed everything again, and if you route it behind the leg you can even take the brake off completely and replace and put it back on while it's assembled and bled. This way, you can have the travel be limited by the handlebar hitting the top bar, which is not exactly nice but I believe the safest way to do this. I'm in the market for a new narrower handlebar, and the dealer had only internally routed ones in the width I wanted. So I thought, oh well, why not, I don't need to use it if I don't like it... But then I got the drawing of the thing (being able to get those is one of reasons I favour Ritchey, which is one of the other firms that does real engineering), and found out that there are two holes on the underside, but also a hole in the middle, so you can route your cables through your stem. REALLY??? Is that worth adding a stress riser on THE highest loaded spot on the handlebar? Just so people can't see your cables and the lines of your bike are "clean"??? I'm quite sure Ritchey engineered around this (by making material thicker on that part and adding weight), but others possibly just drill a hole and weaken it without realising it. And then you need a stem with another hole and another stress riser in it, and possibly a huge chasm in the crown of your fork... Nope. The aerodynamic cost of pushing a 5mm thick (or thereabouts) cable through the air is worth knowing the most heavily loaded parts of my bicycle are not full of stress risers and are at least somewhat less likely to fail while I'm on the damn thing (fingers crossed).
@larisonjohnson
3 жыл бұрын
Ok…First, great to see you Raoul, sorry you are feeling poorly. Your delivery/timing of “Genius Designer” and “Metal Blade” …LMFAO within the first 1:30. Had to put my phone down before I dropped it. Feel better! Keep educating us. 👨🎓 Clearly a few of the “Genius Designers” education is “Less than Ideal”. 🤣🤣🤣
@LuescherTeknik
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you had a laugh.
@n0ch91c3s
3 жыл бұрын
It looks like there is plenty of room to put a large pin on the back side of the crown, avoiding the traffic jam at the front where I'm assuming the fork hose is going. The carbon on the frame would be pretty thick there too.
@sergio895
3 жыл бұрын
WOW. And this bike cost what? 8000/11000 €/$ This is marvelous. Basically on the level of Canyon Aeroad last iteration. What a shame. But hey, you better use discs, it's safer. HAH.
@mikeadb
3 жыл бұрын
This is a shocker Raoul! I may be drawing a long bow here but...I'm a "risk guy" and I think about these things... let's say your bike falls over at a cafe (known to happen), then try to catch it but you grab the handle bar which torques and the bike lays down wheel up....causing head tube delamination you didn't know you just caused....*shudders* and there you are riding home from a group ride.
@EllisPedersen
3 жыл бұрын
Happy I bought my 2nd china carbon instead of this lol.
@domestique3954
3 жыл бұрын
There you can clearly see that the manufacturers use the customers as „beta testers“ And then selling this bullshit for a ton of money..... But longterm that only works for cafe riders who don’t ride much miles,the real racers will look for another brand!
@felixjackson2670
3 жыл бұрын
Modern profit before people mentality in the bike industry,in keeping with Corporate mind set! I remember buying my first Cannondale MTB in the mid 80’s when they were made in the USA....before money men took over.
@Sills71
3 жыл бұрын
Also.. hope you feel better...
@LuescherTeknik
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, yes I am.
@tychoMX
3 жыл бұрын
Dorel attacks again? Yikes.
@arienzoamadeus6675
3 жыл бұрын
I think its a good idea not to give up just yet on your trusty alluminum frame , But i do however have a carbon frame bike ;)
@annahpaquentin6047
Жыл бұрын
I’m enjoying the bike so far kzitem.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.
@88pedro888
3 жыл бұрын
When you are spending the price of a decent motorcycle on a pushbike and expected to believe that costs are derived from r&d, marketing, distribution etc. It’s simply a rip off.
@marcelobueno3421
3 жыл бұрын
Já me aconteceu 2x este problema e a cannondale, executou a troca do quadro. Mas é lamentável ser tão frágil!
@Fixingeverthingwithaengine567
3 жыл бұрын
That is what I need is a bike that will grind its bearings to dust when I turn. I guess you don't have to turn I guess said the bone head engineer from Cannondale.
@chrisko6439
3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you are well. Have been starting to worry...
@Metal-Possum
3 жыл бұрын
Cannondale have a great track record of recalling road forks... seeing the thumbnail of you holding a fork with the title of "Cannondale" just made me think it's Crack'n'fail doing their finest work once again.
@cheec8548
3 жыл бұрын
I like your video! Very good information. Please keep it up you are helping a lot of people to understand things we don’t see easily and it’s important for us to know.
@fhowland
Жыл бұрын
Its alamost like they WANT the frames to fail and be disposable. Unacceptable considering the pricepoint.
@TheMASDrummer
3 жыл бұрын
I remember I was buying my first serious road bike during covid. It was really hard to find a 56cm race bike at the time because of demand shock. Cannandale called me back and said they had the 2021 supersix evo ready if I wanted one for some ridiculous price. I declined and then got called by giant for the 2021 tcr Sl0. Couldn't be happier.
@davidcocker2043
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't the guy who designed the Cannondale also do the Cevelo? I am sure @hambini has roasted him a number of times.
@yusufravat
2 жыл бұрын
Same thing has happened to mine. So annoyed. Frame ia now damaged and because I'm not the first owner, no warranty from cannondale. Is this repairable? How much to repair something like this? Just shocked and so annoyed at whoever designed this crap.
@LuescherTeknik
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about this, we have repaired them and also installed the insert to improve the life of these.
@durianriders
3 жыл бұрын
Aero road disc bikes = dumbest designs in cycling history.
@AQBIKE
Жыл бұрын
That's one of the reasons my shop stop to selling Cannondale.
@trroland1248
3 жыл бұрын
OMG, this is even worse than that Cervelo S5 design problem. I liked the look of those SuperSix Evos, but never knew or suspected what hid in the head tube. 🧟♂️
@FaiscaaaH
3 жыл бұрын
Another great work from you mister !!! Keep us all informed about all the crap the major brands are doing reagarding their products.
@timocallaghan4408
3 жыл бұрын
There's a lot to be said for picking up what turns out not to be a bad design from the previous generation once it's not brand new anymore
@ohnezuckerohnefett
3 жыл бұрын
Luckily I have found the solution to it: a modern steel frame.
@VegasCyclingFreak
3 жыл бұрын
Would you consider that a catastrophic failure? Or could it end in one?
@mgoo1713
3 жыл бұрын
The 4 thumbs down are all from Cannondale and thier distributors...
@steffen_r
3 жыл бұрын
Thx for the video. I had the same issue with the frame while having a small accident - luckily the frame was replaced by cannondale. But as you said, the design is really crappy and made to fail hard..
@marcoheim6665
Жыл бұрын
Hi! I have the same problem at the moment. How did you contact cannondale to replace the frame? Did they do it readily or did you have to push them? Thanks for a short feedback!
@alesito85
3 жыл бұрын
Watching his videos I wonder if there's any bike worth buying... he should go into building bikes perhaps. Though it might be expensive :)
@TheDarkInstall
3 жыл бұрын
A frame with a built in chisel. Nice.
@lewisfilms
4 ай бұрын
Which brand tends to have the best quality?
@charlesphi1795
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Raoul, thanks for pointing these failures out! I quite like the shorter format, I admit i am sometimes put off by the lengths of your videos. All the best!
@MrBunglor
3 жыл бұрын
Oof, the super six gets the Luescher slow death of a thousand cuts! scrubbing that one off my shopping list then!
@Ih8GoogleandApple
3 жыл бұрын
Cannondale designers - “ let’s figure out a way to make disposable bikes that need to be replaced every 2 yrs😉”
@borano2031
3 жыл бұрын
I reckon it´s more like: "Look here everybody!! I´ve got the solution!!" NO one reacts, everybody goes "BRILLIANT!!" Rgr
@lookitsross
2 жыл бұрын
I've had a couple of these frames (I do some work for a LBS, and I have had the opportunity to own a couple), and I've found the best fix is to Dremel/sand off the metal pin, so that it no longer makes contact with the frame. What ends up happening instead is that extra stress is put on the brake line, which is less than ideal. I've come to thee realization though, that replacing the front brake line is a hell of a lot more simple and cost-effective over replacing the frame every time you have delamination/damage. I can't take credit for this idea, as it was told to me by someone that works for EF-Nippo, and that one of the riders requested to have this mod done, as the angle at which it currently stops is not a lot for very tight, low-speed turns.
@Grunge_Cycling
3 жыл бұрын
Is this issue covered by warranty?
@ClarkS963
3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you!
@nickmannerings3574
3 жыл бұрын
A bicycle is such an elegant engineering design. How can anyone screw it up so much? Don’t these companies have design reviews or any sort of engineering process. Like you I’m left speachless. It’s not as if this is a small under resourced company. I bet less than 1% of their advertising budget would have paid for a design review which would have eliminated this problem. Less advertising and more decent design.
@savasserhat5722
3 жыл бұрын
What is really thought-provoking here is that uci approves these productions.
@LuescherTeknik
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree what does the UCI approved label actually mean and are they liable for poor products that pass?
@DrCrispycross
3 жыл бұрын
UCI approval just means the frame and fork dimensions are within their technical regs, nothing more. Their wheel approval involves an impact test.
@savasserhat5722
3 жыл бұрын
@@DrCrispycross then uci should not approve a squad that has not been impact tested
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