oversteer: you hit the wall with the rear end of the car understeer: you hit the wall with the front of the car. horsepower: how hard you hit the wall torque: how long you take the wall with you :D
@gerryreggea
7 жыл бұрын
Glad I am driving a BMW E34, they knew their stuff back then. Thanks for uploading the video, Topgear then was more than a school.
@xFlared
10 жыл бұрын
They should show things like this in schools, this can save tons of teenage lives. Too bad the schools are no longer used for teaching but are used to blend in peer pressure and conforming to society.
@MrWolfSnack
9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I never learned anything about cars in school. And the auto tech class was only available to seniors, long after the crucial time to learn about cars at a young age so the knowledge sticks. And it was only available to men. Women couldn't join this class. I am honestly not joking. My high school was fucked up.
@AE86ofMtAkina
9 жыл бұрын
MrWolfSnack True, in middle school I learned about cars through the internet.
@Catcrumbs
8 жыл бұрын
+Admiral Ackbar 3:13 "With modern cars, the grip level is so high that you should never reach the limit on public roads." More lives would be saved if you could impress upon them the need to drive at a prudent speed and with an appropriate gap to the vehicle in front.
@jfv65
8 жыл бұрын
+Catcrumbs and not stare at their f-ing iphones while driving...
@A1DJPaul
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree, Every Driving Test should include Lessons in ADVERSE Car CONTROL in Wet & ICY Conditions in the UK. Every Driver Should PASS the LATEST Driving Test every 10 or 15 Yrs. This Will Keep Long time Drivers Alert to modern Cars & Roads. Everything Changes , Driving Tests Need to be For the Very Best Drivers. An Old Person at 70 Yrs Old Should have the Ability to Spin a BMW 5 Series Around a WET Track, Same as a 17 yr old new Driver. & Have Full Control. Fail the Test = Go Back for DRIVING LESSONS REGARDLESS OF AGE, OR GENDER. 17 Yr old Girl? 72 Yr old Granny. ONE Driving Test every 10 / 15 years For Everyone. FAIL = Go Back To Reading the Highway Code & Clicking Boxes on a THEORY TEST at 82 yrs old, Because their Car will have TOUCH SCREEN CONTROLS etc. 3 Outright Fails = You cannot apply for 3 more years. & With a DOCTORS Letter of FULL HEALTH. if over 70 yrs old.
@QtheMisanthrope
9 жыл бұрын
back when you could actually learn something from top gear
@joshuabrown9398
9 жыл бұрын
+Valon Selimaj But new Top Gear is just so much more entertaining wouldn't you say?
@volante8657
8 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Brown if it's something like man lab, then yes. sadly it isn't
@mycosys
8 жыл бұрын
+Valon Selimaj now you just switch to fifth gear where the old top gear crew went
@DYSPH0RlA
8 жыл бұрын
+Valon Selimaj Back when there were no good cars.
@Ehal256
8 жыл бұрын
+Wrath Plenty of good cars, what are you talking about?
@astonpatterson
15 жыл бұрын
Had to lol when he said "A Modern Supercar" and the old 944 pops up!
@RipMK747
5 жыл бұрын
The E34 was and will always be one if not THE best looking saloon car!!
@Avilator189
12 жыл бұрын
I love the honk at the end of the spin in the Elan.
@OscarWithC
10 жыл бұрын
Dramatic handling conditions = seriouse fun!
@danessz93
9 жыл бұрын
3:38 Wow, BMW knew their business back then.
@lewis72
6 жыл бұрын
Well, it's a Bosch system, so prossibly more Bosch than BMW.
@AntzolY111
5 жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah old BMWs 😍😍😍😎😎😎
@daviderhahon
3 жыл бұрын
Just clicked your link. Mehn, car bounced up and down but tyres remained steady and maintained grip on the road. Superb
@SamuelVella1995
7 жыл бұрын
Clicked for that sexy E34 ;)
@hannahhirsch5394
6 жыл бұрын
lol same
@AshleyPomeroy
6 жыл бұрын
Compared to the Rover it looks like it came from the future - it's still gorgeous nowadays.
@Noh1996
5 жыл бұрын
i came here because I thought it was an e24, then i realised it wasn't but still worth it
@AntzolY111
5 жыл бұрын
My jaw dropped damn E34 and E39 best M5s
@nikolasael1
5 жыл бұрын
Happy to got one.. e34 525i m50b25
@BarneyWobba
11 жыл бұрын
I knew most of this on an instinctive level, but having just got an M5 after yeaaaars of FWD cars, I found this useful, thanks for the upload :)
@jeffreylebowski2291
4 жыл бұрын
How did it go? I also want to get an rwd But i have also only have lots of Years of fast FWD experiences...
@Sakonetatar1
3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreylebowski2291 I like to deliberately push the limit (braking in the wet, oversteer, understeer...) of my rwd car so that when something unexpected happens I have more chances to not to crash. I recommend you to cautiously try it, plus you can learn to drift :)
@sideslip2threshold
13 жыл бұрын
That was a series 1 Citroen XM at the end, which was shown to have virtually comparable handling to the sports car. The Series 2 Citroen XM's that followed had much better handling, with evolved hydropneumatic/nitorogen gas suspension. Putting low profiles on that car results in a car that seems impossible to "shake" of line. It seems to me that most people are unaware of the exceptional handling on these cars.
@UEGUnequaled
11 жыл бұрын
These old time educational videos are the best!
@miksulder
9 жыл бұрын
fwd is really safe to drive normally, but when you throw it to the corner violently it suddenly behaves like an paralyzed animal.
@kristupasantanavicius9093
5 жыл бұрын
Not enuf wheel spin mate
@GameplayXperience
13 жыл бұрын
Top Gear is the most awesome all car reviews ever. Still today, they are keeping the same methods like old the Top Gear series. Just awesome. I watch them all when i can
@DShafi01
12 жыл бұрын
3:15 I love that BMW, favorite 5 series of them all :)
@MaimunR
13 жыл бұрын
i love how in all these old top gear clips they mention emergency avoidance situations when it comes to handling
@joeziadan
9 жыл бұрын
I don't see how understeer is "safer" than oversteer. It's really easy for me to control oversteer but with understeer You can only turn as hard as you can and ease off the gas pedal and hope the car regains grip. The reason I love old Porsches is for the reason that they naturally oversteer and it's so rewarding to hold the slide in them. But everyone has their own preference I suppose
@mellowb1rd
9 жыл бұрын
I guess it depends on the road and the corner, but it's usually safer to hit something with the front of the car than the side. Safest of all would be to drive REALLY fast, so you hit with the rear. We need to double the speed limit and make roads out of banana skins!
@taylangolcuk1257
9 жыл бұрын
Pulling an e-brake just a little bit can help to understeer .
@SIMcityplayer2002
9 жыл бұрын
You can't pull the E-Brake 'just a little bit.' It's on or off.
@joeziadan
9 жыл бұрын
Haha that's true if you pull it a little nothing will happen except a little humiliation lol
@SIMcityplayer2002
9 жыл бұрын
And that would create a 'handbrake turn.' Also, It seems easy to control ovesteer, but it really isn't! With understeer you can just slow down and fix the problem.
@xxkiller59xx
7 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for the car at the beginning to run into the guy lol
@coldfiredesignstudio
4 жыл бұрын
Best video about the topic ever seen
@user-hs8mf4jn9k
9 жыл бұрын
Tiff farted at 0:53 :3
@StoneCoolds
9 жыл бұрын
Marko Amidzic naah he is just rev matching that high performance car xD
@elcabezon5487
7 жыл бұрын
he was sitting on a whoope cushion to balance his height on the seat,lmao
@JanGodrie
9 жыл бұрын
0:53 Tiff just farted!
@Tenbegdoh
11 жыл бұрын
No drivetrain will save you if you go in to a corner too hot. Lift off oversteer is cool (unless unintended). I used to own an XM, and it was a beast at keeping everything level. I currently own an Integra type R... which is a lot better, in terms of lift off - it just goes sideways until you put your foot down. Those XMs were almost impossible to get sideways. I did try.
@Camionetadelapuebla
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful E34!
@BrEdits364
11 ай бұрын
this man is drifting in the 90s when drift weren't invented yet in the united states he is a legend
@sreddy117
13 жыл бұрын
this is a really informative video thanks for the upload!
@BlackOpSource
15 жыл бұрын
Hey! Someone else watched the Drift Bible! Sweet. At any rate, I will concede to you, since it seems you know more about drifting than me. I'm more of a grip driver, anyway; gotta work hard to keep a car turning if you've got front-wheel drive.
@p00pie
14 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for the upload.
@jackthemaniac1
7 жыл бұрын
XM showing that hydropneumatic suspension is king.
@SandwhichDepartment
12 жыл бұрын
Yes, now I can understand all the top gear reviews better.
@valdezapg
14 жыл бұрын
you've got a great channel!
@MSI2k
14 жыл бұрын
This man was on Top Gear? He does have that pedigree. I salute him.
@BlackOpSource
15 жыл бұрын
For sure. Torque-biased systems are fairly easy to predict, but that on-off stuff I don't understand as well.
@geforce5700fx
15 жыл бұрын
THANKS A LOT FOR UPLOADING !!!!
@Michaelingolfhansen
12 жыл бұрын
The "cheap" Porsche 944 pulls 0,97 g: pretty nice! I've read several rewievs that rated it as the best handling Porsche of its era! Better than the 911's and 928 of its time!
@bignicky88
14 жыл бұрын
very helpful. it was always a bit mystifying to me about how understeer and oversteer varied in terms of different car designs.
@fikri565
10 жыл бұрын
Tiff did show how to drift in Morris Minor in Fifth Gear,on dry track. Didnt know he did first in old Top Gear series.
@pastrami1945
9 жыл бұрын
Driving in snow, down a curving ramp onto an Interstate, I liked front-wheel drive over rear drive. Rather contend with understeer than oversteer if hit some really slick stuff.. Drove 'em both in nasty snow storms.
@roberts1677
9 жыл бұрын
pastrami1945 Different strokes for different folks. In the snow I'd much rather have RWD. I can manage oversteer quite easily as I've had a lot of practice on dirt roads. Understeer to me is no good.
@h2oaddict28
7 жыл бұрын
pastrami1945 fwd cars can oversteer very easly on corners due to poor weight balance.
@Iwo26
13 жыл бұрын
I wish Tiff or Jeremy did whole E34 M5 review........
@ElMattador
11 жыл бұрын
Drifting a Morris Minor 1000. Legend
@volante8657
14 жыл бұрын
@NutsandGuts basically, depending on how you differ the power distribution between the front and the rear....for instance, most Audis tends to understeer, while the Audi R8 tends to oversteer becuz the R8's diff tends to give more power to the back rather then to the front, as to most Audi's are
@BlackOpSource
15 жыл бұрын
I've heard that before, but as I understand it, drifting, in its strictest sense, is holding a car at opposite lock and using the pedals to steer, which is something you can only do in a rear-driven car. The only time you come off full lock is when you're turning the wheels the other way. Drifting, then, is intentional heavy oversteer. Four-wheel slide, on the other hand, means that all four wheels are sliding to some degree or another, with the steering a lot closer to centered.
@420Vali
13 жыл бұрын
@kenjoje Does it snow where you live? Thats one way to do it, make the car slide in the snow. Also, you can do autocross and even track days. (I know in some countries they're cheap). ...you can also slide your car around in large empty parking lots, deserted back roads...etc.
@420Vali
13 жыл бұрын
@NewRomantic4 Or to correct lift off over steer, opposite lock followed by slight increase in power.
@Shekillaboom
8 жыл бұрын
schools would make this whole thing 45 minutes long. i learn more on youtube
@carryclass6807
8 жыл бұрын
+Shekillaboom schools are about money not education. public, private, college, it does not matter.
@TechSalvager
15 жыл бұрын
Generally drifting is about having a greater rear slip angle than the front tires. It can be done by using power over, handbrake, interia, etc. You just get more options with a RWD and easy of keeping it under control than other types. Also you shouldn't allways be at opposite lock durning drifting, you could if you wanted to and try to use power only but sometimes that won't work on smaller hp cars and you will need to figure other ways out as well
@DriverGuy23
11 жыл бұрын
Introducing the Modern Supercar, the "Porsche 944"
@Dutch94
10 жыл бұрын
2:24 Even then Top Gear hated Nascar!
@ancientapparition1638
6 жыл бұрын
Seriously who the fuck thinks Nascar is interesting to watch
@chilael6892
3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientapparition1638 Me if I get to see the driver's pov, I already tested it watching Matt Malone.
@420Vali
13 жыл бұрын
@kenjoje Agreed. After all he's a real racing driver. He was in f1 on a minor team for a short time, also WSC in the 80s. Have you seen the vids of him testing a Porsche 962? Awesome stuff.
@HaHaEntertainmentR
12 жыл бұрын
The slalom was so funny.
@geogmz8277
8 жыл бұрын
TG was very very informative..
@newtracetriad
10 жыл бұрын
Clarkson would just drift the minor all day long
@actionjackson9000
15 жыл бұрын
you can get the elusive "neutral steer" with AWD though aka 4 wheel drift
@yobarry
14 жыл бұрын
That sound is the sound of the exhaust as he lets off the gas and brakes while car is still in gear.
@Hossdelux
13 жыл бұрын
@since51592 the car behind tiff makes it even better.
@d-one-and-only
5 жыл бұрын
Without any doubt Tiff is one of the best drivers EVER! Yes he was a former Race Driver .... Vicky is also an excellent driver! Jeremy is funny. I wonder if Tiff was a Stig ever ....
@TheNiceJackass
6 жыл бұрын
I think I know where 06:40 was filmed. Looks like the A64 southbound turnoff at Askham Bar here in York. A tricky Long 270 degree left-hander that feels like you're turning left for eternity.
@moblackqb31
15 жыл бұрын
Wish they had more tracks like this in the U.S.A and at 7:58 did he go into a spin then reverse then Accelerate and bring it back
@Avilator189
12 жыл бұрын
YES! So much this^^
@eetherington
11 жыл бұрын
Proud owner of e34, just have to put it out there. hahaha
@Anirossa
3 жыл бұрын
Hope you still have it:)
@eetherington
3 жыл бұрын
@@Anirossa yep, still going :)
@Anirossa
3 жыл бұрын
@@eetherington That is great! 😄 has it had many major problems through the years? I got a e34 2 years ago, have now had 4, currently two in rlly good condition I am planing to keep a very long time, one of them permanently if not both. 88 models. Getting pretty good at these cars, but wanted to hear how your ownership has been 😄
@kal12345
14 жыл бұрын
i like the citroen xm @end,,,,:)
@Holdmymanpurse
13 жыл бұрын
this car is my icon he is so genious :3
@elcabezon5487
7 жыл бұрын
no matter how many videos are out here to know how to manuever a car,in whatever condition,teens all the like is speeding,but not learning how to control the machine,In fact it has help me somehowt to steer accordingly,
@geforce5700fx
12 жыл бұрын
the best !
@leftylethborg
12 жыл бұрын
i think all leaner drivers should learn about this and be tested on it how to stop car from over-steer/under-steer etc not just if they can do a well executed 3 point turn
@Koenonator
15 жыл бұрын
very enlighting
@SagothBaal
13 жыл бұрын
@rahungry It depends if you are driving a RWD car or a FWD
@420Vali
13 жыл бұрын
@kenjoje Yeah its a great vid. enjoy.
@fcnl
7 жыл бұрын
haha, "frisky, with a hint of character" that's perfect.
@stevenrivers2541
8 жыл бұрын
I love the 944
@JeromeHattKronen1664
6 жыл бұрын
try Audi 100 Coupe S instead
@Liist
14 жыл бұрын
@NutsandGuts They tend to hold their grip, and especially with modern cars with electronic systems differentiating how much power goes to each wheel, sort it all out for you. Expect more performance oriented AWD cars to oversteer while your mom's Subaru wagon to understeer. Your dad's old 4WD SUV will probably flip over.
@vitzy8965
12 жыл бұрын
very informative
@teampig
13 жыл бұрын
Driving around a circle on a constant speed=NASCAR
@BlackOpSource
15 жыл бұрын
That can be achieved with any drivetrain layout, though. It's just easier if you can put down some power on the rear wheels. I do in front-driven cars through trail braking, and it's even easier if you have some weight in the back. Also, a technical complaint: Calling four-wheel slide "drift" is inaccurate, as the term "drift" only applies to intentional oversteer.
@phuckoffanddie
11 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I felt it and smelt it too
@Desertduleler_88
8 жыл бұрын
A shorter wheelbase will affect handling also....
@silkycvale
8 жыл бұрын
Tiff needle and Jeremy clarkson would be great to do a car show together they both are great drivers in my eyes and would be funny to see them both trying to beat each other all time not one of them would ever admit defeat😂 Wish car shows where still like this today
@S3mj0n
7 жыл бұрын
Silky 2016 Tiff vs Clarkson is not fair. A former racing driver vs a lemon is stupid.
@xkrmaniac
14 жыл бұрын
preety sound of inline six :)
@fullfist
10 жыл бұрын
the host is a professional race driver, if you're wondering
@Submitr
11 жыл бұрын
Oversteer = fancy word for drifting.
@Tyme4Cryme
13 жыл бұрын
@funnyvideosbob HA! How did I miss that the first time around?
@weallfollowmanutd
14 жыл бұрын
MSI2k - Some people are too young to remember old TopGear!
@geforce5700fx
15 жыл бұрын
M5 E34, my favorite BMW ^^
@AlternativeUses
15 жыл бұрын
yeh, true, but it wouldve been interesting to hear his views on it. esp if it were with the more interesting ones like acuras sh-awd or the nissan GT-R
@AlternativeUses
15 жыл бұрын
very nice. wish he would've included awd though
@eddyLF
15 жыл бұрын
does the asc give some power to the car ?
@ElZato
13 жыл бұрын
Finally got it, it's a Lotus Elan.
@EXTREME4YEARSTOCOME
14 жыл бұрын
over steer is easyer to control then understeer and more fun
@filbert4640
11 жыл бұрын
Back when top gear was about educational driving haha
@kevin48800
7 жыл бұрын
what a driver
@oldfashionedwrx3574
11 жыл бұрын
you don't want either, though understeer when it appears its so damn easy to correct especially when your drunk.. oversteer is so tempting to go drifting hahaha
@Gauntletbloggs
14 жыл бұрын
@ysivyboi1 i think you are getting 5th gear confused with top gear.
@rokero171
11 жыл бұрын
"Tiffany Dell!!" by Jeremy Clarkson.
@13RuffRyder
13 жыл бұрын
so basically understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car?
@A1DJPaul
3 жыл бұрын
My BMW e34 Glides Superbly, Very Smooth & Controllable. If You Demand it to. The Rest of the time It STICKS LIKE GLUE to the Roads in all But the Worst Conditions & a Very Silly Driver. The Harder you Push an e34 through the bends at High speed , the More it Grips the Road & the Faster you Go, The Car Feels to SHRINK to Less than the size of an e30. AMAZING When You Hammer a BMW e34 525i Se into Sharpe Double Hairpin Bends. BRILLIANT Cars For the Narrow Lanes & Steep Hills of Yorkshire. at 59 mph of course !!! Gently Wafting along. A BMW e34 is Not for Elderly Folk with Slow Responses. It's a stupidly Fast 4 dr Saloon With A Limo Ride & Handling to Beat some Very Fast modern Cars. A BMW e34 Comes with NO COFFEE CUP HOLDERS. To Drive it as it was Designed, You Need One Hand on the Wheel & the Other on the Gearstick Flicking from 3rd to 4th & Back to 5th, then 3rd & 4th & down to 3rd again to power out of a bend. Keeping the Revs above 3,500 allows the engine to Do what it was Designed to do. LAUNCH a Big Heavy Car Down the Road, & Feel like you are Not even moving.
@givingittoyouraw4101
6 жыл бұрын
At 6:00, "It's controlled either by adding a little more lock...." What does he mean by "adding a little bit more lock?"
@leftylethborg
12 жыл бұрын
@ClTIZEN 3 point turns and reverse parks don't save lives mate ( yes it's important) response times and knowing what to do in a fraction of a second (how to control a car in the event something happens) does though one could make the point that it will encouraged hoon driving possibly but teens are going to hoon drive anyway
@GrimRScythe
14 жыл бұрын
He looks younger in this video I think its the time that He was still with TopGear UK
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