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@RFS-Vids
Жыл бұрын
Which simulator are you using???
@Knight6831
Жыл бұрын
Would the Douglas DC-6-based Aviation Traders ATL-98-6 Carvair with the PW R2800 and the Douglas DC-7-based Aviation Traders ATL-98-7 Carvair with the Wright R3350 have fared better than the DC-4-based ATL-98?
@almightysamwhich4203
Жыл бұрын
@@RFS-Vids I believe it's x plane
@MLXaviation
Жыл бұрын
Hey Disaster Breakdown Can you do a 737 MAX Breakdown (Lion Air flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines flight 302) And Happy New Year 2023
@birgenair301
Жыл бұрын
Happy new year🥳🥳🥳
@Happymali10
Жыл бұрын
On a lighter note, I once read "the plane looks like someone with an aversion to jet-engines drew a 747 from Memory" and I think that description is accurate^^
@Madhouse_Media
10 ай бұрын
It's actually one of those designs that's so ugly it's charming in a weird way.
@TH3L3G3ND
10 ай бұрын
@@Madhouse_Media💯😂😭
@riddle7911epic
Жыл бұрын
My dad use to fly this airline for business trips in the late 80's early 90's. He once told me he was glad the government decided to shut it down. This airline made Spirit look like the Concorde in terms of service and luxury
@grmpEqweer
Жыл бұрын
I'm just happy getting somewhere alive, TBH. Although a working onboard restroom is nice.
@BoBandits
Жыл бұрын
Concorde??? They have a great record. Lol.
@shrimpflea
Жыл бұрын
Concorde wasn't an airline.
@tanjianyumoe5700
Жыл бұрын
@@shrimpflea well it was an airliner
@Xvladin
Жыл бұрын
@BoBandits no, that's what he's saying. OP is saying: "This airline is SO BAD that it makes Spirit (a cheap airline) look like Concord (a fancy airplane) in comparison"
@6yjjk
Жыл бұрын
Not that coincidental - the 747's hump was also there to leave the cargo deck clear and allow nose loading.
@alejandrayalanbowman367
Жыл бұрын
The design of the 747 was actually a copy of the Carvair.
@GroundHOG-2010
Жыл бұрын
@@alejandrayalanbowman367 The podded cockpit design was used in other designs than the Carvair before the 747 (two examples were the Bristol Freighter, which was show in the video, and Armstrong Whitworth Argosy), and all three designs in the competition that lead to the C-5 all had a variation on this idea (the C-5 uses a spine, while the Douglas used a shorter pod design). Meanwhile besides people vaguely suggesting it drew inspiration for the design from the Carvair, I have not found direct evidence that was the case rather than (like with all designs of this type) the reasonable assumption that if you want to load cargo through the nose, moving the cockpit up just makes sense.
@Thiscooldude123
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The reason the 747s cockpit is higher up then usual. was that boeing was planning to convert the 747s into freighters, after the boeing 2707 was operational. which never happend.
@TheSonicsean
Жыл бұрын
@@Thiscooldude123 Though now most of the largest 747 operators are cargo airlines, so it ended up happening eventually.
@roykliffen9674
Жыл бұрын
@@Thiscooldude123 As far as I'm aware the original 747 design was always meant as a freighter until someone came up with the idea to use it as a passenger jet too.
@senabecool7232
Жыл бұрын
Wow, loook everyone its the propellor 747
@engineerskalinera
Жыл бұрын
Mom, can we have 747 at home?
@Coolalabright
Жыл бұрын
The 747:
@robertpassat001
Жыл бұрын
Wierd boeing 747 prop
@龗
Жыл бұрын
747 lite or 747-010
@Yukis.aviation
Жыл бұрын
Yoshi+747
@thatoneplaneboy
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the 747 from wish, i like this one
@SpiritOfMontgomery
Жыл бұрын
To me it just looks like a Short Stirling
@taniaewing8513
2 ай бұрын
Just an atl-98/ modified dc-4
@neilperry2224
Жыл бұрын
This plane had a lasting film role, in a James Bond movie. The film is Goldfinger, where the two cars are seen driven onto the plane in separate scenes, as Goldfingers Rolls Royce weighed over 2 tonnes.
@Primus54
Жыл бұрын
Yes… British United was the airline. They called them “Air Ferries”.
@danhooper3819
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the prequel to the Austin Powers movie Goldmember.
@sarahalbers5555
Жыл бұрын
Wow. Good catch!
@stracepipe
Жыл бұрын
At Southend Airport in Essex.
@budwhite9591
Жыл бұрын
I thought so. Thank you for confirming that it’s this plane
@PFMediaServices
Жыл бұрын
Chloe, you and Plainly Difficult have become an integral part of my Saturday morning workout, as well as my education on the history of safety in various industries. Thank you for consistently delivering such excellent content. Happy new year!
@Tycowiz
Жыл бұрын
I agree two great channels.
@VikkoActual
Жыл бұрын
I'll join you lol I look forward to Saturdays
@_powerrranger
Жыл бұрын
who is chloe?- keen to know as these two PD and this account are great
@richardmillhousenixon
Жыл бұрын
@@_powerrranger Disaster Breakdown is Chloe
@PFMediaServices
Жыл бұрын
@@_powerrranger Chloe is the magnificent mind behind the Disaster Breakdown channel!
@Reindeer911
Жыл бұрын
Strange looking plane indeed! When I first saw a picture of one, I thought someone was having fun with photoshop, trying to merge a Boeing 747 with a WWII era bomber.
@aviationdude9546
Жыл бұрын
Mom can we have a 747 We have 747 at home 747 at home:
@BassSuperPower
Жыл бұрын
It's an old meme, but it checks out.
@walkerpendleton760
4 ай бұрын
my. throught exactly
@GroundHOG-2010
Жыл бұрын
The aircraft was created by a very interesting company, headed by a very interesting person in the history of commercial aviation. Aviation Traders (Engineering) Limited (ATL) was founded by Sir Freddy Laker. The company itself was originally traded by buying up surplus aircraft and converting them to civilian use (hence the name), something that was very profitable after WW2, especially during the Berlin airlift where airframes that could haul cargo were very valuable. Old Halifax bombers would be converted to cargo use, and supplied to independent airlines during the airlift, with them being serviced by ATL for a significant portion of the cargo contracts. After the airlift was over, these aircraft would all mostly be scrapped. ATL would continue trading in aircraft as it also developed a few of it's own. The Carvair was their most successful, but they also developed an in-house "DC-3 Successor" (a task a lot of aircraft builders were trying to do, see the Convair CV-240 of the Parnair video, or the Fokker F27 Friendship of the Pakistan Airlines Flight 404 video). The ATL-90 Accountant would not draw much interest, though, so never made it beyond the first prototype. Meanwhile, Laker would also found two airlines. The first, Air Charters, as far as I can tell had some regular scheduled services, but also gained some very important contracts, flying between West Berlin and West Germany as part of the Little Berlin Airlift, and doing trooping flights. He would also found Channel Air Bridge, a company set up to run (first through Air Charters, later through it's own aircraft) cross channel flights. Man this guy's companies were all blurred together, I can completely understand why the version I first read when I was young just said it was a single company. Anyway, shortly before the ATL-98 Carvair took it's first flight, Laker sold all three companies to a rival called Airworks. Through a couple more mergers, this would become British United Airlines, what was probably at the time the largest private airline in the UK, with Laker as managing director. He would leave this post to found a new airline in 1965... which was actually his most influential airline, if less successful. Laker Airways would become one of the first of the modern "low cost" carriers, offering very cheap flights, same day ticket purchase, buying your food, etc. The modern low cost carrier owes a lot to Laker Airways and the Skytrain. They mostly used DC-10s and expanded quickly throughout the 70's, especially on the trans-atlantic market. The reality was it forced the legacy carriers to compete, and they had over extended themselves (taking out large loans to buy more aircraft). That, along with public perception in the DC-10, lead to one of my most favourite quotes of all time, as said by Sir Freddy Laker: "I am flying high and couldn't be more confident about the future". He said that 9 days before the collapse of Laker Airways. Laker would try to get his airline back off the ground, and would run an airline named Laker Airways in the Bahamas from 1992 til 2005, but by then it was a minor airline and he was getting up in age, and he would die in 2006. Sir Freddy Laker would be honored in many ways, having at least 3 aircraft named after him (by Virgin Air, AirAsia X and Norwegian Air Shuttle, three low cost airlines), and is known as a pioneer in the commercial aviation sector.
@bobswan6196
Жыл бұрын
I remember he bought hundreds of ex-RAF Percival P40 Prentice trainers, with a view to converting them to 4-seat GA aircraft. It didn't go well and most of them finished up in piles at Southend and Stansted airports; their registrations painted by hand over their RAF markings. I believe there are one or two still flying plus a handul in various museums. Incidentally, Stansted and Southend were where the Carvairs were built.
@waldopepper1
Жыл бұрын
Great post! Thanks for the info.
@RobloxiaIntlAerospaceGroup
2 ай бұрын
Yap
@rtlgrmpf
Жыл бұрын
Hehe, me looking without glasses at the phone notification: this 747 looks kinda weird...
@eucaminty1366
Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year from a silent fan! Love your style of educating us and finding rarer plane crashes that not many people speak of. Can't wait for more videos and I wish you good health and happiness going into 2023 ☺️
@tessiepinkman
Жыл бұрын
Great video, as always! This was an accident I hadn't heard of, and I always enjoy learning something new. You are one of my favourite content creators on KZitem and I want to wish you a happy new year and I hope that the year will be a great one for you, and anyone else who might read this. Keep doing what you're doing, at least as long as it is giving you pleasure :)
@YDKJ07
Жыл бұрын
I agree too great video and content though I still however still haven't seen the collision over Cerritos. Hopefully we'll see it in the next year........
@jazzinrascal
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your work producing these documentaries. All the best for 2023.
@dfuher968
Жыл бұрын
Lol, my immidiate thought, when I saw that first picture of this weird plane was "damn, that looks like, some1 spliced the front of 1 plane to the back 2/3 of another plane". And thats pretty much, what they did!
@clarsach29
Жыл бұрын
I seem to recall that this aircraft was briefly featured in the James Bond film "Goldfinger" when it is used to transport one of Goldfinger's sports cars from England to Switzerland...i have a memory of a scene where the front the plane is flipped up so the car can be loaded....and of course there is then that famous car chase through the Swiss alps with Sean Connery in pursuit in his equally sporty car.
@carsten4594
Жыл бұрын
I think that one was a Bristol Freighter.
@SaraSpruce
Жыл бұрын
@@carsten4594 It was a Carvair, G-ASDC to be exact.
@carsten4594
Жыл бұрын
@@SaraSpruce Yes you are right! I had encountered a Bristol Freighter out of Australia several times in Vietnam and when I saw the movie ages ago that's what stuck in my head. Apologies to clarsach29. Thanks and Happy New Year.
@carsten4594
Жыл бұрын
Pilot error? Easier to dump on a deceased crew than face the fact that this airline had shoddy maintenance. These Hamilton Standard propellers require oil pressure to feather. Although they have their own dedicated oil pumps they cannot do their jobs when the oil is gone. He was able to feather the other one. But with two of the four engines out it's going to come down fairly quickly. RIP
@josh3771
Жыл бұрын
Was looking for this comment. There is no good options when you lose 50% of your engines on takeoff low in the circuit while marginally overloaded. Even the best crew can’t defy gravity. Easy to blame a dead crew who can’t defend themselves.
@paf268
2 ай бұрын
100%. Pilot error is a lazy conclusion and ignores that they successfully feathered the #4 and must have attempted to do the same to #2.
@randomscb-40charger78
Жыл бұрын
3:29: In other words, this particular plane walked so the Boeing 747 could run.
@birdbrain4445
7 ай бұрын
Lol, man. I know a thing or two about aviation (not nearly as much as you, of course) but I had *never* seen one of these planes before - well, aside from in Goldfinger, though I haven't watched that film since I was young. It really does look like, well, 'we already have the 747 at home', as others have noted. Fascinating. Great video as usual!
@TheHamburglar69
Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video as always! I look forward to your new videos all week :) Thank you for the quality content and have a great new year!
@DisasterBreakdown
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the Super Thanks! You're too kind. Happy New Year!
@Mizai
Жыл бұрын
-$5.00
@alexandrareitz2391
Жыл бұрын
My favorite channel ❤️ happy new year, Chloe!
@DisasterBreakdown
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the Super Thanks. Legend! Happy New Year!
@Mizai
Жыл бұрын
-$9. 99
@lawrencedardin9046
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for superior production and informative descriptions of these unfortunate accidents. Greatly appreciated are the relevant and appropriate visuals.
@thejudgmentalcat
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the year's content! I discovered your channel this year and really enjoy it. Looking forward to 2023 and Disaster Breakdown 👍
@michaelmurphy2211
Жыл бұрын
I'm a history fan and I enjoy events like this that are little known in Aviation history. I had never heard of this aircraft before. Good show!
@noneofyourbizness
Жыл бұрын
40% crash rate...holy moly ! 'Ccfffinair' might be a better name for it.
@redblade8160
Жыл бұрын
NunofyourBusiness. No wonder there were only 4 passengers on board.
@trekaddict
Жыл бұрын
We also know from the documentary "Goldfinger" that a Carvair can carry a gold-plated Rolls-Royce Phantom to the continent.
@07willows
Жыл бұрын
Congratulatios on producing this excellent reconstruction and animation of a lesser known aicraft and accident. As a boy I saw many Carvairs operating into Manchester UK. Incidentally my hometown, Stockport, had it's own air disaster where another DC-4 derivative, the Canadair Argonaut, crashed in the middle of the town in June 1967, killing 72 people. There is a very good documentary on KZitem (1 hour) titled Stockport Air Disaster. I have been surprised that no one has yet covered what was then, Britain's worst air crash, that during the subsequent investigation, was to have repucussions much wider. Well done, a very interesting video. Regards.
@davidej9091
Жыл бұрын
I used to work at Southend Airport in the 1960s where they were modified. I was a luggage loader for BAF which flew mainly cars to the European mainland. They seems pretty antiquated then.
@robm3074
Жыл бұрын
As always, an excellent video. Thank you for all of the great ones that you produce, Chloe. And also Chloe, I wish you a healthy New Year, a safe New Year, and last but not least... peace.
@robr2389
Жыл бұрын
Wow!!!!! I always considered myself quite the aviation nut and pretty well versed on most aircraft. This one took me by surprise. Not only had I never heard of a Carvair, I had never seen a photo of it until this video. Really odd ball looking aircraft. Sort of resembles the Guppy. Have seen those and the DreamLifter. Good upload!!👌👍
@joeb5316
Жыл бұрын
I'd never heard of or seen pictures of this plane until your Community notice a few days ago. Quite interesting.
@abest5164
Жыл бұрын
You told me a lot this year looking forward to your content in 2023. Happy new year!
@heatherydew3361
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your hard work on your videos, I really enjoy them!! Happy new year to you, here's to 2023!!👍🍾
@tpol9112
Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, two of these Carvairs made their way to Honolulu in the 1980s and flew cargo to the neighbor islands for a regional carrier called Pacific Air Express. After working an operations manager at DHL Air Cargo in Hawaii, I was employed as a station manager for.short period of time with Pacific Air Express and oversaw the operations of these aircraft. Although my memory fails me somewhat, I believe one of these Carvairs suffered a controlled crash into a sugar cane field on a routine flight to Kahului, Maui, where all crew members survived including a buddy of mine. The 80s were a glorious time in aviation including this chapter for me personally. Thanks for your wonderful report on this aircraft!
@kenbellchambers4577
Жыл бұрын
It would be a terrifying process to buy a second-hand plane.
@chuckschillingvideos
Жыл бұрын
Not if it has been properly maintained and recommended service intervals observed (with documentation) and is properly inspected before purchase. What is terrifying is ignorance.
@richardshiggins704
Жыл бұрын
As a child I used to visit Dublin airport and remember these oddities parked on the apron . I am not too sure how long Aer Lingus kept them in it's fleet . Very interesting documentary and well narrated .
@gnarthdarkanen7464
Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year, Chloe!!! Thanks for another year of obscurities and lesser known incident and disaster videos!!! Looking forward to your next, as always... ;o)
@jameswebb4593
Жыл бұрын
I remember these car ferries flying out of Southend airport Essex England still climbing as they passed overhead of my town on the other side of the Thames estuary. Witnessed a near miss collision when waiting for a train at Kemsley one afternoon. A RAF Hawker Hunter was circling the area on a training mission I assume . I was in a left hand turn , gradual not steep , I happen to notice coming from his right at about the same altitude Carvair . Fortunately the RAF pilot spotted it a the same time and altered course. This was in perfect weather conditions , but it struck home to me how easy it was for those type of accidents to occur.
@rilmar2137
Жыл бұрын
Definitely a curious aircfaft. Given the captain's history, makes sense that the crew wouldn't handle the situation too well
@nikolatvala
Жыл бұрын
Cargo in the front, passengers in the back. Sounds like a flying mullet
@trainz3982
Жыл бұрын
1:46 That this is a very strange looking plane " 😂😂🤣 It's something we just ...need to get out of the way so what is the deal with this plane and why does it look like that" 😂😂
@redblade8160
Жыл бұрын
TRAINZ" This plane was designed to crash!
@aesearby
Жыл бұрын
It looks like if a 747 was stung by a bee
@trainz3982
Жыл бұрын
@@aesearby 😂😂🤣
@trainz3982
Жыл бұрын
@@redblade8160 Never seen this ever
@jorgereixach9509
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and well documented video. Also, Thanks for put the names of the soundtrack music
@chriscool5869
Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. The carvair was really an interesting plane. I’d like to recommend a disaster. National Air Cargo flight 102 - it’s a really interesting disaster. I remember seeing it on TV when it happened.
@nyxqueenofshadows
Жыл бұрын
some part of me is weirdly unnerved by the fact that the cargo was loaded through the front 😂great video, as always! and a happy new year!! looking forward to what you've got lined up :)
@grmpEqweer
Жыл бұрын
Check out photos of the Super Guppy, or other planes meant for really big cargo. It's a usual design, and looks really cool.
@nyxqueenofshadows
Жыл бұрын
@@grmpEqweer oh man what a weird looking thing!
@mbvoelker8448
Жыл бұрын
The cargo variant of the 747 is a front loader too.
@elian11111
Жыл бұрын
Tysm for all your work in 2022!!!!! your videos are always so entertaining and well produced
@theautistictransitfan
Жыл бұрын
I will never get over just how goofy that plane looks
@smacke2950
7 ай бұрын
god imagine you die in a plane crash and everyone's focused on how goofy looking the plane was
@whome4642
Жыл бұрын
That evaluation sounds like my report card when I was a kid. “Needs to apply himself”. But then I wasn’t flying a plane in fourth grade.
@larumpole
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video! I remember these aircraft from my childhood when my father would drive us to Lydd or Southend Airport and we would use one of British Air Ferries airplanes to cross the channel for our holidays in France. I never knew they had such a poor accident rate, although I suspect that was due to poor maintenance with low budget carriers, rather than anything inherent to the Carvair. Thanks also for your mention of the Carvair's manufacturer - Aviation Traders, that was one of Sir Freddie Laker's ventures. Laker was a pioneer in aviation, challenging the traditional airlines with his low cost airline. He was, like Sir Richard Branson, something of a visionary. Happy New Year to you and to all your viewers.
@davidjones332
Жыл бұрын
The first Carvair conversion G-ANYB had already logged 37,000 hours before conversion, so these were already quite elderly aircraft before Aviation Traders started modifying them (with the approval and co-operation of Douglas, let it be said). I've no doubt that as they drifted from one low-budget freight airline to another the maintenance got progressively worse. If the ground engineers' attitude to their job was anything like the captain's it's small wonder it fell to bits.
@The_ROKCER
9 ай бұрын
3:20 The hump on those two aircraft is there for the same reason-they look alike because they serve the same purpose. The 747 was merely a stopgap measure until the supersonic 2707 was ready, at which point all the 747s were intended to be converted into freighter aircraft. The cockpit of the 747 is positioned high so that a front-facing loading door can be accommodated, similar to what is seen in the Carvair.
@RindaJane
Жыл бұрын
I was 5 years old. This is an old plane 😔 😂 Great video. We are enjoying your Channel! Happy New Year to all!!!
@senabecool7232
Жыл бұрын
In Australia, new year has passed 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@robertpassat001
Жыл бұрын
@@senabecool7232 In europe not
@thejudgmentalcat
Жыл бұрын
I was 6! Yes, we're old too
@JonathanEzor
Жыл бұрын
I love aviation, and I'd never seen or heard of the Carvair until your video. Yeesh! Thanks for the info.
@Happymali10
Жыл бұрын
9:50 Don't plane-engines still need spark-plugs? Your explanation of "compression until combustion" is aligned with a diesel engine but I believe kerosene still needs an external spark.
@GeorgeMCMLIX
Жыл бұрын
You are correct, but these engines ran on high octane aviation gasoline.
@ferrisb1588
Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year, Chloe! Looking forward to your videos in 2023.
@yichythegoat
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for music titles, have a happy new year!
@mahogany3947
Жыл бұрын
That is a weird looking plane very interesting thank you for posting
@alejandrayalanbowman367
Жыл бұрын
I remember in the 50s being woken up every morning at 4.30 am by those DC4s/C54s taking off and flying past my bedroom window on trooping flights to Cyprus during the troubles there.
@Doplar12
11 ай бұрын
I am a plane crash video addict. With all my views, nobody does it better than this guy. His entire delivery is magnificent in tone and information gained.
@TheEarthRealm
Жыл бұрын
So many plane crashes in the Dominican republic... 😮💨
@hreader
Жыл бұрын
Very many years ago (1959/60/62) my family went on holidays in France which entailed a drive from the Channel coast right down to the Pyrenees (where they'd spent their honeymoon). I can still remember the most peculiar-shaped rather small aeroplane used to transport people's cars as well as the people themselves across the Channel, and it looked very much like this, i.e. with a very large hump at the front to take the cars. I think we would take off from Lydd or somewhere in Kent and land on or maybe a bit inland from the French coast. The clip at around 3:55 showing a car being loaded in at the front definitely brings back this memory (even if in the photo the car's just cargo). Very interesting of course that the commentary mentions mixed cargo and passenger aircraft. It must now I think of it have been one of these which we used to hop over the English Channel to France.
@straybullitt
Жыл бұрын
It might have also been a Bristol 170 Freighter which is similar, although smaller and a twin-engine design. They were a very common predecessor to this airplane.
@TheCokoll
Жыл бұрын
Well, resemblance of nose hump between Carvair and 747 is not merely accidental. 747 was initially developed as a military cargo, for the tender finally won bu c-5 galaxy. An it was planned to have a nose ramp, just like Carvair
@ibluap
Жыл бұрын
An excellent 2023 and a lot of new videos.😄🥳🥳🥳
@JLS_CNRD
Жыл бұрын
that is a mighty strange looking plane!
@alejandrayalanbowman367
Жыл бұрын
no stranger looking than the 747
@LemonSpacebirb
Жыл бұрын
We lost a baby 747 in this crash But seriously rip to all who died in this crash
@alankeith7866
Жыл бұрын
Wishing you and your family a wonderful New Year's day!!! Thank you for the wonderful videos that you produce.
@marksmith8079
Жыл бұрын
What a shoddy investigation- couldn't say any more about the pilots handled it badly- other than not feathering the number 2 engine- could they definitely have set it no major indication that they were doing badly.
@Dystopia1111
Жыл бұрын
Just looking at that front-heavy design leaves me bewildered that these ever got off the ground (and that was before seeing heavy cargo loaded into the front). That must have taken some interesting weight distribution and a seriously muscular set of engines to make this contraption fly.
@UncleKennysPlace
Жыл бұрын
It only appears "front heavy". You can bet that the C/G was near the chord line, as it must be.
@pikachu6031
Жыл бұрын
No not really. The ATL-98 Carvair was built at Southend Airport, Essex, England in the 1960’s. It was a standard DC-4 with the new bulbous cargo compartment nose section added, as in the video. Another major change, apart from those made to the front fuselage, was the fact they used the Douglas DC-7 Vertical Stabiliser, replacing the DC-4’s standard tail. The P@W R2800 Twin Wasp Radials were exactly the same, so we’re the props. The Carvair initially carried 30 passengers in the rear fuselage, as well as two cars in the new nose section. When they were later converted to All-Cargo operations, water ballast or other cargo was loaded into the rear fuselage for balance and trim purposes!
@redblade8160
Жыл бұрын
Dystopia1111 It didn't stay long in the air.
@Dystopia1111
Жыл бұрын
@@pikachu6031 I'm no expert on aviation and don't claim to be, so I appreciate any additional info. Just the visual difference alone is intriguing, but the very high proportion of crashes for this model definitely invites follow-up questions.
@Dystopia1111
Жыл бұрын
@@UncleKennysPlace I'm sure it was - I maybe should have re-phrased that as 'How did they pull that off?'.
@EonArashi
3 ай бұрын
The R-2000 Twin Wasp was known for being prone to overstress if it was pushed too hard as well. Similar problems came from the R-1830 model that pre-dated it. They didn’t have a ton of horsepower for their era (1,200 to 1,350HP) for a plane this size where you’d probably want the later variants of the R-2800 Double Wasp and its nearly double horsepower of the 2000, it likely just wasn’t strong enough to handle the overweight loads that seemed common for this airline. Wouldn’t surprise me if they just broke down from strain and lack of maintenance.
@robertmcghintheorca49
Жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or did this start mid video?
@StellaMurano
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm also having this weird feeling of missing the introduction, but maybe it was made on purpose. Who knows (:
@johnpatrick1588
Жыл бұрын
These planes were in the James Bond Goldfinger movie to carry Goldfinger's car.
@jon123etc
Жыл бұрын
The resemblance between the Carvair and the 747 is more than coincidental. The 747 was designed with the hump to allow for the option of a cargo door in the nose. One can’t help but think the Boeing designers were inspired by the Carvair.
@brianmuhlingBUM
Жыл бұрын
I love your visual reconstruction of this strange looking aircraft. What a great story! Well done. 😊
@vespurrs
Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year! I only recently found this channel but your presentations are top notch and I've spent some time binging. I look forward to seeing more in 2023!
@Jump-Shack
Жыл бұрын
You know stuff is about to go down as soon as 401 shows up on a flight
@nottelling8129
Жыл бұрын
That or 191
@melmoore6885
Жыл бұрын
Marvelous video as always, thanks for this and all the other posts, have a great new year and onwards and upwards.
@MrZlodeus
Жыл бұрын
5:18 - according to Spanish phonetics, the captain's last name should be pronounced "booKHOsa", not "booYOsa". The flight number has a macabre undertone: in slang, DOA means "dead on arrival" - which is perfectly true in this case. The name Carvair also has another implication: Aviation Traders Ltd. took a DC-4 and *carved it up* for the new role 😊
@mbvoelker8448
Жыл бұрын
It's not a coincidence that the Carvair's hump resembled a 747's hump, it's there for the same reason. IIRC, it was Mentour Pilot who explained that the flight deck being up in the hump was specifically to allow the large front door on the cargo variant.
@SaraSpruce
Жыл бұрын
Yes, development of the 747 originated as a military freighter, it was Pan-Am that suggested creating a passenger version of it.
@emo7636
Жыл бұрын
I loved the 'what is the deal with thia airplane, and why does it look like that?' line delivered in your usual lovely calm oration.
@OriginalStachuJones
Жыл бұрын
Mom - can we have 747 We have 747 at home 747 at home:
@TheGravitywerks
Жыл бұрын
This type aircraft can be seen on Google Earth at the Gainsville, Texas airport...
@DiecastPowderCoating
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your wonderful video's. I especially enjoy the older accidents. Take care and have a very happy new year.
@sd906238
Жыл бұрын
This plane was ahead of it's time, think of the 747. You can see one of these planes in the 1964 Bond movie "Goldfinger".
@richarddx22
Жыл бұрын
Amazing to think that this plane inspired the Boeing 747
@Khether0001
Жыл бұрын
Lol, this is the first of your videos Im watching (loved, btw, subscribed!) but I looked at the 3d model and thought "hey, interesting, this KZitemr uses cartoon planes, which is ok, we just wanna know the story", then you showed a picture of the ACTUAL plane and I felt a bit awkward! Never saw that before!!! 🤣
@Bigones111
Жыл бұрын
I’ve become a really big fan of this channel, and I’m really looking forward to seeing what’s next for you in 2023 😊 If I could recommend an accident to cover, you should do the 1972 Puerto Rico DC-7 crash that killed Roberto Clemente
@ac9110
Жыл бұрын
Lovely soothing voice and great videos. Many thanks for your interesting and accurate content. I've subscribed.
@eugeneoreilly9356
Жыл бұрын
Failure of the PW 2000 on these aircraft were common as they were run continously at Maximum power.The aircraft was underpowered.
@EvanBear
Жыл бұрын
That really is the strangest plane I have ever seen in my life, or it was until I discovered the existence of the Pregnant Guppy just now...
@HORIZONNNN
Жыл бұрын
I’m Dominican-American, first Gen in my family, I heard of this airline from my abuela and she always told me how…unstable the airline was 😅😅. Down from the design to even poor pilot and crew training (she use to serve the armed forces in the DR)
@neontitanium
Жыл бұрын
Growing up in North-East Wales and watching the Airbus Beluga fly in and out to Broughton every day certainly was a sight. Weirdest shaped plane I've ever seen! (My dad worked on its wings when it was built; worked for Airbus in Broughton, Toulouse & Hamburg during my childhood)
@mauretaniafan1133
Жыл бұрын
the irony of the plane colliding with a automotive shot is pretty scary
@martinross5521
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this story and analysis. My parents booked on Silver City Airways from Lydd to Le Touquet and back - car and family in the very early 60s. I was allowed to go to the jump seat for part of the flight and landing. Exciting times!
@lindyc.2552
Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, I enjoyed this video for 2 reasons. First, you mention the plane departing from the cargo "ramp". What a breath of fresh air to not hear the wrong cliche "tarmac" that everyone seems to be stuck on using these days! Anyone who is familiar with either GA or commercial aviation knows that the area where these planes park and are "turned around" is indeed called "the ramp"...not the tarmac!!! So, kudos for using the correct term! Also, I enjoyed this video because we had an old Carvair that used to come into the RDU airport where I worked in the mid 1990's. I used to love when it flew in and out as it was indeed an unusual looking aircraft. I even have a photo of myself standing in front of it, with its converted "guppy head" It used to bring in automotive parts for auto manufacturers assembly lines. The other thing unique to this Carvair was in the evening when you watched it take off, it would have some flames coming out of some of its engines. It surely was the craziest looking "bird" to sit on our ramp! So, I enjoyed hearing more about the history of the Carvair from your video! I just subscribed and look forward to your next video on the Carvairs. Also, I enjoy your calm voice in the way you explain each detail in each of your videos.
@IN_THIS_DAY_AND_AGE
Жыл бұрын
ATL was founded by Freddie Laker, who would later start the transatlantic airline, Laker Airways.
@alejandrayalanbowman367
Жыл бұрын
and kick off budget airlines for the benefit of all.
@brianperry
Жыл бұрын
Freddie Laker, arguably the first exponent of cheap air fares was the man who had the idea of 'joining' the Bristol Freighter and the Douglas DC-4 to increase the payload. It can be seen on the Bond movie Gold Finger being loaded at Southend airport. l lived on the flight path of Southend airport in Essex UK, which was actually near the village of Rochford. Remember seeing the Bristol Freighters flying overhead during the fifties, and the Carvair later in the sixties... The sound of large radial engines 'coughing' into life and the drone of them overhead...a sound long since passed ....
@MotJ949
Жыл бұрын
Anybody else have this video start midway through? Is there a finished version?
@kneel1
Жыл бұрын
yeah not sure whats going on
@ruki8919
Жыл бұрын
its supposed to start like that, i was a bit confsed at first but it continues on to background info and all that cool stuff
@fijiwow5447
Жыл бұрын
I was in the in the area that day and heard the plane crash noise. Next day headline was the story of 2 teenage brothers in that crash site bldg that were on the phone with their mother when it happened. The call went dead and they both were killed. Horrific event ! Years later I was at the funeral of my uncle and observed a large mausoleum with those 2 boys names and ages (I think they were 15 and 17). Hard to grasp such a reality for their mom & family.
@erictaylor5462
10 ай бұрын
It looks like a 747, only smaller. This was a cargo plane, and having the ability to open the nose of the plane to load cargo strait in has many advantages. Several other cargo aircraft place the flight deck on a second level above the cargo deck. The 747 the C-5....
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