Thanks for sharing this. There has definitely been a decline in trophy catfish. We need more platforms like yours to put the information out there
@EASTSIDERIDER707
Ай бұрын
Good of you to bring this out in the open.
@davidgarcia9808
Ай бұрын
Very interesting, don't have pay lakes out here and I am glad we don't. There are some trout farms where you catch and pay but the trout are all farm raise. Thanks Billy for another interesting video, like your cat
@jackkeeble9272
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video my friend
@benbogg5430
Ай бұрын
pay lakes need to be banned, or they must prove they are purchasing fish from farms.
@user-tg1oy1ul2t
Ай бұрын
I'm a Ohio resident that pays 25$ to fish anywhere in the state... Id appreciate it if they leave them slabs in their natural habitat so my grandchildren and there children can catch them years after I am dust in the wind......
@livewithnick
Ай бұрын
keep beging government to ban everything you dont like...
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
What other way would you suggest to stop these pay lakes from killing these trophy sized Catfish in their ponds?
@user-tg1oy1ul2t
Ай бұрын
@@TNRVG ban them , or let them keep there catch until it's empty with odnr making sure it happens, or Kentucky DNR, or what ever part of the Ohio river there doing it. Just my two cents, cuz really do they let me pen up 60 trophy bucks in a woods and charge dudes 1000 to hunt it? Just saying......
@user-tg1oy1ul2t
Ай бұрын
@@TNRVG ban them, make sure they catch and take home and empty out the lakes with odnr making sure they comply, just my two cents.... And one other point. I had 80 wood lot, would they allow me to fence it up and have 60 trophy bucks in there, and changing guys 1000 to hunt it?🤔
@markreeves2491
Ай бұрын
Trophy pay lakes should be banned permanently ! Thank you for shining some light on this crime !
@HomesickforAlaska
Ай бұрын
I have more of a problem with what I feel are too lenient of penalties for ALL wildlife violations. I don't "hate" pay lakes, I even used to take my son to a trout farm in the early 90's and I think they have a place, especially for taking young children. What I don't like is what seems to be a lack of oversite by many state DNR, and not harsh enough penalties when people are caught. Being found guilty of INTENTIONALLY violating wildlife laws should carry VERY HARSH financial fines and penalties (lose your Truck, Boat, Gun, equipment used in the violation) loss of hunting and or fishing privileges for a SUBSTANTIAL amount of time, and possibly prison for the very worst or repeat offenders. When the penalty does not outweigh the gain of the violation the violations will continue.
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
Agree. Especially after hearing about the skipjack guys getting busted multiple times.
@xSteve1983x
Ай бұрын
Just one correction. Specifically regarding blue catfish. They reach breeding maturity at around 24 inches length, which in most bodies of water, takes them around 5-7 years. Channel Catfish are more likely to spawn after a couple years but blue catfish definitely take longer.
@SOGOnic
Ай бұрын
I feel like paylakes will always be a thing, but they should have regulations like the carp ponds over in the UK. Catch and release only, and the fish are raised and fed on site. Yes, no monster catfish will be there, but it's family fun, and you can even have disabled people fish these ponds without terrible issue.
@922crappiebbq8
Ай бұрын
Thank you for passingbon this info if one person that hears this and have precipitated in the trophy pay lakes and realizes they were involved with and stops patronizing those lakes. It a win small one but a win
@James-oj6ck
Ай бұрын
Very good topic. Great points made. Good job.
@dannycornett6151
Ай бұрын
I agree they should shut them all down. I myself have been offered money for my fish.
@dannycornett6151
Ай бұрын
Ohio i river is Kentucky waters.
@dannycornett6151
Ай бұрын
So its Kentucky law.
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
It does share a border with Ohio. Its my understanding if you launch from the Ohio side you are regulated by Ohio laws. Someone once caught a Kentucky state record Blue and was denied because they launched from Ohio.
@bradbex9051
Ай бұрын
Great video Billy. Im from Indiana and yes the tournament result weights have been going down for years on the Ohio. Thanks for making this video to help get the word out.
@RiverJunkie
Ай бұрын
Trophy pay lakes kill Trophy fish. Period. It should be illegal in every state to stock pay lakes with fish from public waters. It’s BS. Thanks for the video Bill!
@tmac6593
Ай бұрын
Pay lake should only be able to get fish from a farm not the wild
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
Agree!
@FFGOMER17
Ай бұрын
Need to send those guys to MD. Our DNR is actively looking for ways to get Blues and Flatheads out of our waters.
@dondelashmit7456
Ай бұрын
In Illinois, there's a lot of lakes that call the. In the blue cat invasive so. There's no limit
@chrisparker9886
Ай бұрын
Blue cats in the James River in Virginia have been declared to be an invasive species! 😁
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
They have gotten huge there too! From what I am told Virginia has a no transport rule for invasive fish. Plus the population is way higher than some of lakes down south so getting caught would be easier. One of the reasons they laugh at me and continue to come to my waterways to poach trophy catfish.
@chrisparker9886
Ай бұрын
@@TNRVG #50 is plentiful on the James.
@rodneydrew2572
Ай бұрын
Kentucky Fish and Wildlife just did a big bust on 11 people keeping trophy size catfish,they were all suspected to be taking too a paylake
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
Very nice! Is there a news article somewhere on this?
@brentmichocki108
Ай бұрын
Hehe I watched this video from Maryland out on the Susquehanna and I slowly whispered to myself "there's a bag limit on catfish?!?" there so invasive in my area that I don't think we have any bag limits but it got me to googling. Yep no limits for us here, the blues and flats are crazy invasive here and about all I seem to catch (other than channels, I do see a bag limit on channels). Lucky for me though, I like catching catfish and primarily fish for them now versus bass and snakehead around here. Love pulling in the 15+ pound hogs when I can. I always give mine back though so someone else has a chance at getting a hog, if I wanna eat I keep the 2-3 pounders that are actually good eating size.
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
Yeah they are invasive up there. Nobody realized they can handle some salt and basically took over the feeder rivers and creeks around the Chesapeake bay and beyond. If only the trophy pay lakes would target them there to help y'all out instead of emptying our rivers and lakes.
@brentmichocki108
Ай бұрын
@@TNRVG Maybe this is the start of a business idea lol. Start calling them paylakes up and let em know, if they wanna get their stock up just send their boys out to Maryland, won't nobody care if they start pulling all our Blue hogs out eating up all our crabs around here They recently had an weekend event event here where they removed like 700 blues.
@russellstewart5414
Ай бұрын
@@TNRVGthere are serious concerns about the interstate transfer of wild caught fish. Parasites, disease, other invasive species can come along with the catfish. We need to be careful about what we wish for. It seems that it should be easy for the wildlife officers to identify these offenders, keeping several trophy catfish requires a fairly large live well, maybe a law stating the maximum size live well at say 40 gallons. Would be difficult to get several big fish in there and save them for transport. We need to be creative and think ahead of the criminals
@jimmylowe1233
Ай бұрын
After getting caught 2 times i think they should lose their license at least 5 years.3 offense lifetime ban.
@jasonscott9430
2 күн бұрын
Im neutral on paylakes ive fished rivers and lakes in many states and a few paylakes and i can say fishing these ponds can be tuff
@TNRVG
2 күн бұрын
I don't like the fact they are emptying out public waterways of big fish to keep their ponds stocked. If they only used farm raised fish it would be ok. However there is no money in that.
@jasonscott9430
2 күн бұрын
@@TNRVG I don't care for it myself but if we look at it a different way they pay to get those fish from somewhere and that makes it possible for someone who is disabled to go and catch a trophy a memory a lot of people can't afford a guide maybe a kid who's parents don't fish all the time wants to catch a big fish he has a chance I'm neutral on that as long as fish that are brought in are legally caught and harvested to sell and the party's are doing a legal transaction on other hand poaching I don't like wouldn't support at all
@TNRVG
Күн бұрын
As long as they are not emptying public waterways! I went to the Cross Eyed Cricket as a child and had a blast there! They only stocked farm raised fish. These new gambling establishments that poach big fish from our public waterways are not friendly to you.
@adamcox6960
Ай бұрын
What i do with my legally caught fish is my business
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
As long as you don't do anything illegal with them that is fine! The trophy pay lake owners are doing illegal things.
@adamcox6960
Ай бұрын
@TNRVG i fish on average 4days and 2 nights a week. 99.9% of the time i release them. ( i ate so much fish as a kid i dont care for it much) ive never seen or even heard of a pay lake/pond before today i just feel like i should have the right to release the fish i catch in any private body of water i choose.
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
The thing is these trophy pay lakes pay you way more per pound than commercial fishermen get for dead fish. Which means you have to transport them across state lines. Which is becoming illegal in more and more states. One person like yourself putting one big fish in a pond does nothing to the population. 60 catfish over 30 pounds each a week will decimate any lake/river. Do you catch 60+ 50 pound fish in one week?
@adamcox6960
Ай бұрын
@TNRVG ive only relocated a few fish a couple of time in my life . I thought i heard you say something about it being illegal to be caught with live fish. Oh, to answer your question i catch twice that amount a week 🤥🤣
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
Yes, some states it illegal to transport trophy fish. 3000 pounds of trophy sized fish a week? You sound like a trophy pay lake supplier and I hope you get caught.
@givemeabreakdoc
Ай бұрын
When you get caught grossly violating limits, they should take your boat, all equipment, and the truck you towed it with.
@JarrydMitchell
Ай бұрын
Indiana catfisherman have been screaming for more regulations and oversight for commercial fishermen and trophy paylakes for years. The DNR doesn't consider catfish as gamefish, however it does seem like they are starting to pay more attention to the commercial fishermen on the Ohio. The trophy pay lakes in Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio is where the root of the problem is. Its illegal for anyone to go to public land capture trophy bucks and charge people to hunt them on fenced in private land, so why is it okay for trophy fish??
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
Going to other states is/was a loophole for some of these lakes too. One trophy pay lake was advertising it had large paddlefish in their pond they were buying from a fish farm. Paddlefish are endangered in their state. They got caught in a lie because they were actually getting them from wild waters out of state. They think they are above the law and don't care if they get caught.
@EASTSIDERIDER707
Ай бұрын
Hey ! It’s Billy under an assumed (acronym) name.
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
Yeah I changed my business name to Tennessee River Valley Fishing Guide Service. I still have not settled on good social media channel names yet.
@Hellp211
Ай бұрын
50 cents a pound I heard for live catfish’s from someone
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
Commercial guys wouldn’t be selling for that low as raw meat price is way higher. They are facing big fines and still do it!
@CarolinaReaperr
Ай бұрын
75 cents for carp and 50 cents bass …
@CatfishDreams
Ай бұрын
I live in SW Ohio aka Paylake central worst of the worst. Until they put in stiff regulations, police it (which there arent anywhere near enough officers), things arent going to change. The other issues are these trophy cat paylakes dont care, they run there own stocking programs and are now putting out videos to mislead people by saying they are stocking 1600lbs from the farm (while laughing).
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
One recently said they stocked 9000 pounds of catfish. They treat the whole situation like its a joke.
@CatfishDreams
Ай бұрын
@TNRVG unfortunately yes they do and do it blatantly.
@Hellp211
Ай бұрын
They feed them dog food to
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
Those poor dogs :(
@rogercarlson2330
Ай бұрын
i hate commercial fishing.
@anthonysmith3741
23 күн бұрын
No commercial Fishermen should be able to keep any trophy catfish in any state. Eaters ok but not trophy fish
@JML317
Ай бұрын
Indiana is 1 over 32" per day. Fish ohio in Indiana daily.
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
That is good to know. Thanks!
@larryshepherd5753
Ай бұрын
More 100 lb catfish have been caught out of the Ohio river in the 5 years than ever before. You need to get your facts straight.
@TNRVG
Ай бұрын
You need to go check out what Steve Douglas the Catfish Dude has to say. He lives up there and has seen the decline in person. I am quite sure the Ohio is recovering some due to the fact they are going 500 miles south to Wheeler to get fish now. Few more years they will reset and hit the Ohio heavy again if people start catching real monsters again.
@nachopretzel3533
Ай бұрын
Are you surprised? Look around . Look at society. If poaching can turn money, a poacher is going to take advantage.
@nachopretzel3533
Ай бұрын
Make pay lakes a bad thing . Anyone who fishing a pay lake is a poser
@donniekraus1273
25 күн бұрын
All the bad and horrible things going in this world and your asking us to care about catfish being resettled? Now if you’re talking about hurting the Steelhead and Salmon in the great lakes I am all ears. Hard to listen to a guy that can’t keep his cat out of his cat fish video 🇺🇸
@TNRVG
24 күн бұрын
If trophy Steelhead and Salmon could survive more than a minute in a pay lake they would be after them too. At least you understand indirectly what we are facing. Game Wardens can't fix world problems but they sure can bust poachers. Here are 11 more poachers busted on a newer video (please share with your steelhead/salmon friends, more people need to know this is going on): kzitem.info/news/bejne/2nqL3455cZRjdnYsi=NXBgt7SWEcYw1E3i
@jimmylowe1233
Ай бұрын
Commercial fishing should not be done in public water.Our taxes pay for the fish stocks.Then private people catch them for money.Not cool.I don't have an issue with paylakes if they raise their own fish or by farm raised.
@Frenchbroadcatman.
Ай бұрын
I hate paylakers they think they are great fishermen and they can't catch a cold. My ten year old daughter can catch a fish out of a pond so to me you ain't a fisherman in a pond. If I can catch them up here they won't be going home in a vehicle it's a long walk to Indiana from n.c.
@bradsexton7295
Ай бұрын
I hate commercial fishing as well. Pay lakes should be banned.
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