One of my big issues here is 'how do you power it?' If this thing can max out at 20 amps, from the 20 amp input socket, you are going to need to have some serious power to go in there, IF you want to use AC. My feeling is, at least what I'm thinking, is that if you're in a home observatory, yes, you're going to have gobs of AC available to you (usually), but for a clean rig, I would want the mount to be powered, the camera to be powered (some filter wheels get their power from the camera, some don't), a focuser and then dew heaters. That basically uses the entire output of the device. I can run power supplies, wall warts, lump in the middle, whatever to all the different devices, or, I can mount this somewhere on the scope, and then input 12VDC 20 Amp. The only power supply that's beefy enough to handle this is a Software Bisque The Sky Fusion power supply that costs $230, which is half the price of the unit. Out in the field, a battery should suffice for one night, recharged the next day, but in a more permanent setup, I'd rather run the thing off of AC. So, how are YOU going to power then, Shawn? Is Celestron recommending a power supply for this?
@JethroXP
2 жыл бұрын
Very cool that they are producing what appears to be integrated dew shield, dew heater, and power controller + USB hub. They are offering a complete end-to-end solution. I already have the Pegasus Astro Ultimate Powerbox V2 which this seems to be a direct competitor with, but still very glad to see them heading in this direction.
@thepuffybird
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! And also congrats on 3 years on YT. Cheers.
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@robertocarloscaruso6840
2 жыл бұрын
That is beautiful controller
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
It is very nice. I especially like that it can be dovetail mounted and the ability to turn on/off the ports.
@HogarthsAstrophotography
2 жыл бұрын
Looks interesting, didn’t expect Celestron to go down this route of equipment. But thanks for highlighting a new version of CPWI. Thanks for the overview
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@RobB_VK6ES
2 жыл бұрын
I have the UPB v2 which is excellent but it is rather expensive and the mounting hardware is an extra cost so I like that C have integrated a dovetail mount. Two things about this controller that stand out. It lacks a permanent power out socket for the mount which is important for C mounts given the mandatory start up procedure of their mounts.I would gladly lose a dew channel outlet for an extra power outlet and that strange hoop / LED mount. The blue connectors would suggest it's USB 3.x which is good but I did not notice a USB A to B cable in the box. Hopefully it will be included in the retail release. I expect C will sell a lot of these assuming the price is reasonable.
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Rob. Excellent. I agree with your points. Cheers!
@avt_astro206
2 жыл бұрын
Great overview, Congrats On 3 years on KZitem, Keep Up the Amazing Work :)
@TheMje1963
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing this Shawn, I can see that being used by those who don't have an UPBv2 or an Eagle or some other way to control their dew heaters. They do have a dew heater for the rasa and edge scopes that I'm interested in for my EdgeHD 11" Thanks again for show this.
@benc7102
2 жыл бұрын
Gday Shawn Great to see the product review on power/dew management unit. Cheers
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben! Cheers.
@juanromero5436
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Shawn I agree with our friends. It is the equivalent of the UPBv2 of Pegasus Astro although the integration of a dovetail directly into the box seems to me a significant improvement. Thanks for the video
@mgastronomy
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video Shawn.
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@royramdeen8864
Жыл бұрын
Well done, thanks for sharing..
@gclaytony
2 жыл бұрын
Looks interesting. I already have a UPBv2 so other than the 'built-in' D rail clamp, I don't see an advantage to change over my current setup. It also short of USB ports for my application. I already use three with my current setup (Imaging OSC, Guide Camera, Moonlite Nightcrawler focuser/rotator). If I add a filter wheel then the Celestron unit is at least one USB port short. It does look like a viable alternative to the Pegasus Astro Power Box line up, depending on what you need in in/out.
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! I agree. I think they could have added at least one more usb port.
@zveck06
2 жыл бұрын
My computer and Pegasus power box cost about the same combined, and are smaller lighter and fit nicely under the scope.
@JacobFrasca1
2 жыл бұрын
I do like the integrated clamp, ended up designing one for the PPBAv2 to fit my dovetail last month and it definitely cleans up the rats nest of cables. Excited to see how this product compares!
@JeffHorne
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Anxiously awaiting g your review of the L-Ultimate. Is that still in the works?
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I covered the L-ultimate results in my previous video "optolong 3nm filter update", I discussed the mono 3nm results and the L-ultimate results. Clear skies!
@JeffHorne
2 жыл бұрын
@@VisibledarkAstro oh, excellent! Checking it out now. Thanks!
@hael8680
2 жыл бұрын
@@VisibledarkAstro where?? There is no mention of the ultimate in that video. It's all about mono filters.
@louisrosner7902
2 жыл бұрын
Much bigger than the power box. Definitely short on USB ports will still need a hub. Not sure I see the advantage. But as always a great review.
@ExoPhotography1
2 жыл бұрын
It looks like the dovetail power controller Per Frejvall at Blue Astro was working on with Baader Planetarium…
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe. I don't know. Not familiar with Blue Astro. Interesting though! Cheers.
@dennisrecla3974
2 жыл бұрын
Try to stand still instead of rocking back and forth - or move farther back from the camera. Just a production suggestion.
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
Picky picky! :)
@olly7248
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a gigantic version of my Pegasus Powerbox to be honest
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think its any bigger than the UPBv2? Not sure. I didn't find it overly big. And didn't weigh a lot. Thanks for participating with the comment!
@johnadastra1754
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, Shawn. But not understanding how the unit is measuring dew point which varies with the weather, and then keeps the telescope above that temperature. You really need the temperature sensors right on the scope body somewhere. Perhaps more explanations to come. Thanks.
@Steve_Fractals
2 жыл бұрын
Wow only 3 USB ports, just not enough and they clearly easily had room for a forth.
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed Steve! I was thinking the same but didn't end up saying it. Slipped my mind running unscripted! Good point though. Cheers.
@SuperNova-py1ec
2 жыл бұрын
Like others I have the Pegasus UPBv2 which is a lovely piece of kit albeit very expensive. Interesting to see how it performs though unlikely want to purchase as all of my kit is covered nicely by the Pegasus. Pricing will be interesting. Btw the audio for the first half of the video only comes out of the right channel. It’s only when you discus the software does it goto stereo.
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Yes I noticed the audio. Must have been a problem with my wireless mic. I would have had to re-record so I just left it as is.
@Miguel_Noppe
2 жыл бұрын
The unit looks well made, but it seems big compared to the PPBa.
@christakischristaki5036
2 жыл бұрын
Did you try the new filters from astro pegasus
@astrogerard2022
2 жыл бұрын
Nice work Shawn. A quick question if you don't mind- how important is it to have a 100% sRGB monitor when processing images, or is the answer obvious? What monitors do you use?
@hael8680
2 жыл бұрын
Can that dovetail clamp be removed to get a flat surface? Does it come with the humidity sensors? Too bad the video is not in focus for some of the close ups as it's not clear to me what "barrel" cables are.
@psuaero100
2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Any idea on what the 12V output voltage can be set to... 12.5V, 13V, etc.? Some mounts like slightly higher than 12V for their power. Also, any voltage sag when lots of things are running at once? The software looks nice... individual monitoring of the channels. Can the data be stored exported? I have a PegAstro Pocket PowerBox. Very similar but the Celestron is definitely larger and more capable. Probably similar tot he PegAstro PowerBox Advance or the PegAstro Ultimate V2.
@luboinchina3013
2 жыл бұрын
Not for me. Doesn't have 220v input
@jeffreyvictor3678
Жыл бұрын
How does one control the unit if not using a computer?
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
I don't think it works without computer control. 😕
@beatsntoons
2 жыл бұрын
weirdly has too many dew heater ports and not enough power or USB ports..
@billblanshan3021
2 жыл бұрын
Does it have a sky quality meter?
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
No it doesn't. Good idea though!
@Mr77pro
2 жыл бұрын
Nice unit but waaaay over priced. Pegasus PPB advance is a much better value. Hands down.
@aluginbill6182
2 жыл бұрын
Nice review but Why would anyone want to buy this?! At +s400.00 no way. Just not needed. Heck my minipc was$250 and it has plenty of USB ports to run dew heaters plus I got a computer! Wouldn’t use it to power mount either, just not needed.
@patwicker1358
2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone really need 4 dew heaters? Not being critical, seriously asking.
@RobB_VK6ES
2 жыл бұрын
Two channels for hand warmers 😁
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
Possibly. I have 3 dew heaters on the go currently with my setup. I'd have reduced the number of aux ports on it and added more usb ports.
@RobB_VK6ES
2 жыл бұрын
@@VisibledarkAstro I actually did some research some time ago on USB hub chips and it seems most are a 1 to 4 fan out which explains the number of 7 port hubs. By using two 4 port chips, the second chip daisy chains from one of the 4 ports on the first. This means the last four ports all share a common parent port. limiting the bandwidth at worst case to a 1/12 per port 1/4x1/3. The takeaway here is to use the first ports for high bandwidth items like the imaging and guiding cameras and the later ports for focuser and filter wheel. I would hazard a guess that C is using 1 "port" of a four port device for control of the unit's power management features.
@woody5109
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure you need to be so close to the camera..it’s a little disturbing, creepy even.
@VisibledarkAstro
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe find something better to do with ur time than criticise others who are doing something positive.
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