Thanks for helping with it, I always struggle to make decisions about my wave
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Np, my pleasure
@Relaera
2 жыл бұрын
As a support main, not only am I elo-inflated, but I will also promptly ignore all of this information and spam autos on the minion wave because I'm "helping" my ADC
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
As you should, carry on.
@danielhughes3758
2 жыл бұрын
@@Zianni 😅😂
@HeroForSure
2 жыл бұрын
Bless up fam
@jamiemaddox-fisher7021
2 жыл бұрын
I love these educational videos, especially with how collected and directly you talk about stuff
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them! Thanks for watching
@colsiqt5804
2 жыл бұрын
one of your best vids hands down. I feel like a lot of low elo players (including me) underestimate wave management when it can literally make or break a game. this is def a vid I'll be watching more than once! ty again for the amazing content.
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching:3
@moonieliqht
2 жыл бұрын
OMG THIS IS LEGIT WHAT I NEEDED ONG THANK YOU KING ZIANNI !!!
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Meow
@moonieliqht
2 жыл бұрын
@@Zianni oMG A KITTY CAT!! *pat pat*
@cat-dk3ql
2 жыл бұрын
i’ve needed a video like this for forever!!! all the other wave management guides seem way too broad and vague, and i never got much out of them. but this is great
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@heyaaa3506
2 жыл бұрын
Very clear and informative!
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@loudwhispre9406
2 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to learn how to do this exact thing for a while (I never gave it much thought as a Viktor player, I just shove and roam or shove and hide under tower), so this video came at the perfect time.
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Hope it helps and you get value out of this :3
@Genashi1991
26 күн бұрын
I really like that almost at the satrt of the video about a lane the jungler gets mentioned. Team oriented mindset for the win.
@garrettdakin2703
2 жыл бұрын
Yo~~!! Thanks Zianni! I am super happy to see this video! It's something I have been interested in learning for a long time! I am going to put this into practice in my own games. Thanks again man, amazing content!
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching :3 Hope you see the benefits
@alesiswhite9010
2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I needed let’s go
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Meow :3
@drizldraws8036
Жыл бұрын
This was very helpful, especially as a supp main who usually does not have to directly manage the wave. I will practice a few games mid or top to make sure I have the basics down! Thank you!
@Zianni
Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@liamg9334
Жыл бұрын
This is easily the best guide on wave management on youtube. Clear. Concise. No random plugs and bs. I'm a relatively new player and this is going to help so much. Earned sub Ty
@kroneexe
8 ай бұрын
Still don't get it. I think I'm too stupid for wave management. After 10 years I still haven't learned even the basics of this.
@isaacchristianrobinson8629
2 жыл бұрын
I actually was needing to learn wave manipulation. Good shit 💜 (retro)
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
I believe in you
@freshness2569
2 жыл бұрын
skill cap who? this is better then their explanations I see all the time in their vids!!! good job. A series would be great of tips like this. idk maybe have a poll and see what the fans want?
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Working on it! Thanks for the compliments
@saflam3615
Ай бұрын
Never understood waves till i watched ur vid , very clear thank u
@alainey
2 жыл бұрын
Just hit m7 on Syndra due to your help. Now time to perfect my combos/matchup knowledge and work on my macro! Thanks Zianni
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on M7!! Looking forward to your continued success
@spinningforever119
Жыл бұрын
I'm a d1 player but I felt like my problem mostly was with wave management now the good things is that I knew almost everything in this video but there were some things that I took notice to once you mentioned them so the video was great :D
@DadlyGamerTV
2 жыл бұрын
Perfection! Would be dope to see a follow up video of you sharing scenarios and asking the viewer what is the best thing to do in this scenario. Then explain you your explain ur answer.
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@natdaone5075
2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of video I need. Thx king 👑
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Love you
@nahuelperez7314
Жыл бұрын
Excellent guide, I loved it. I've been watching wave management guides but this one is definitely the most complete and easiest to understand. Thank you so much for your effort! Looking forward for your next video ☺️
@danielhughes3758
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely guilty of pushing for no reason. This gives a more solid template for wave related decision making
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
We all are :(
@Cc8R8
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks my guy! 👍
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Np thanks for watching
@t_Gecko
2 жыл бұрын
Really nice content and also a fitting voice for content creating! Keep it up i think you'll be huge soon!
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@Mauler-bd4hg
2 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful!
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
No u
@denerbertoloto319
2 жыл бұрын
Tremendously well done video! Thank you. Not much content on KZitem can compete with yours right now, really. The problem I have on Gold elo is that I don't know if I can actually trust this information about the jungle path... Just saw on your stream a jarvan taking your flash because you thought you were safe, but he just did a really bad pathing and ganked you... Happens a lot to me xD
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. It's better to play correctly following on the proper process than just playing wrong on purpose, no harm in dying if you're making objectively the right plays. Adapting or being flexible based off information is important tho
@cro4891
2 жыл бұрын
I love you for this man thanks for the video
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
I love u more
@robert1538
Жыл бұрын
The rule of thumb using the lines just before 8:50 representing the incoming wave's impact was great.
@Phasuo
8 ай бұрын
This was really helpful bro. Definitely really useful information in here
@annafernandez6674
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another excellent video big bear.
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Thank u
@Voroeg
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@Hoyochii
Жыл бұрын
Been thinking of transitioning back to mid from adc because games are just so out of my favor even when im ahead and win lane so this management guide is really useful
@goalking7778
2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou very much for the educational vid. Best midlane youtuber 100%
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help, appreciate you
@Grimborger
Жыл бұрын
That's fascinating, I'm a jungle main so I don't normally watch lane states at that level of intricacy. I expect this could help my ganks in a similar vein.
@bigcoolboy96
2 жыл бұрын
2 questions; 1. Does the hp of the creeps factor into push? 2. Is better to kill the enemy melees or casters first to slow push?
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
1) Yes but you can just simplify it by ignoring it since minion AI will sometimes fuck the math anyways if they target differently 2) Kill casters first
@minttruffles5525
Жыл бұрын
Incredible content! Absolutely love this.
@mtn323007
2 жыл бұрын
Great video Zianni!
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kixgdavid2077
2 жыл бұрын
great vid z ily
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Love u too
@SkarM_x
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Love the educational content. I don't get to play much. Usually one game a day but I love when I let the enemy mid push me in then they realize they fucked themselves. Lol
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Its the ultimate reversal
@lims-karen3127
2 жыл бұрын
*making notes like a madwoman*
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
pop off queen
@huntercollins5775
2 жыл бұрын
Deadass you’ve made me better at mid lane just with these videos. Been ruining peoples day on ori
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE TO HEAR IT, ORI GANG GANG
@mandasmovingcastle
2 жыл бұрын
brb linking this vid to all my teammates
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
ty
@Cube__TV
Жыл бұрын
one thing to add: single target spells and AAs draw Minion aggro. when the enemy minions are attacking you they are not dpsing the ally wave. this naturally pushes the lane and could break your freeze if you don't pay attention.
@IzarHarrison-Riddle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@wingsofnight4317
2 жыл бұрын
Good video xD
@henriquesousa9683
Жыл бұрын
Imagine I give prio to talon into anivia - amumu vs talon - heca , the first thing I see is that talon instantly invades my jungle with hecarim but in other hand my jungle can't invade and is better ganking so I guess I preffer to freeze it. If I push the lane probably I'm gonna get ganked by hecarim and probably he will use ghost and make me waste a flash and recall. So if u freeze ur jungle is the target , but if u don't freeze ur the target. What I noticed is that if I push as anivia into talon and my amumu is near of me, if heca ganks and amumu counter ganks I almost always win because I got more minions and I poked talon earlier so I got more hp but in other hand if amumu doesn't react to it or if some support moves towards mid they kinda decide who wins... So for me is too relative to know what to do because I almost never see a win-win condition, it always relies in what the other players will do. So I don't find the good decision. Every decision seems to have problems ... Another stuff that I notice is that if the wave is pushing for me it's true that he can move quickly but in other hand if the fight doesn't take too much time and I move too to evade the invade sometimes they lose more minions moving because the wave didn't crash and it was slow pushing into me. But I don't really find a way to play around it because although I see it my team doesn't or doesn't care and I can't just say stop now to fight if we stop now we win adv because I win in minion adv now . I see the same kind of stuff like nidalee invading while I'm under tower and I move and I lose minions and she keeps invading my jungle and after the wave dies under my tower nidalee just leaves... Although I liked ur content I don't find it so linear as u say it I would like to watch some videos more directed to master -gm players that find themselves hardstucked and want to understand their mistakes .
@123GUI12
Жыл бұрын
Thanks perfect
@marinoszarkadis5660
Жыл бұрын
Video helped me a lot understanding the fundamentals of waves but I’m not sure if my jungler will have the same opinion about this, playing in silver division since I’m new to this game !!
@michaelbecker8067
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Zianni, nice video. Can you tell me what music usually is playing in your (vod) videos? It sounds like it's from a game, I find it very relaxing.
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
My VODs on stream are audiospliced so there should be no music. KZitem videos is old-school runescape music
@yan7821
2 жыл бұрын
You so cute when youre so educational with your mad eyebrows^^
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Meow?
@light1809
11 күн бұрын
so this is what it feels to be gank, i been mid so many times, always being pushes, My jungler gank maybe 30% of my games
@omarhossam9200
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Zianni, I have a question though, what you should do with your wave if you are playing Orianna for example into an assassin matchup like Akali. As you kinda want to have prio to prevent them from roaming and killing your side laners, but this can kill because of ganks or assassins All-ins, and if you freezed the wave they may roam and kill your side laners and snowball out of control. So both options have pros and cons but which option should I invest my time in generally on assassin mathups as Orianna
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
That's the crutch of the problem, good job. It then becomes jungle reliant or you just focus on wave clearing to apply pressure. As long as you're warding for your teammates you can also push or hold to make them lose CS. Lower elos don't understand roam timers so they roam while losing minions so you're pretty much forced to put pressure since the enemy mid doesn't care they're 50 cs lol
@omarhossam9200
2 жыл бұрын
@@Zianni Ok Zianni thanks a lot for the advice
@boyoboyo548
Жыл бұрын
BIG
@fra4521
Жыл бұрын
Hi. Today I just watched ur video about improving in League. Could u say that wave management is the most important skill to learn in League? I'm thinking about starting mastering it, as first step towards master :)
@Zianni
Жыл бұрын
The fundamentals of laning (Farming + trading) are the basic requirement for wave management to be relevant. If you hold a wave and do nothing with it, why does it matter if you held the wave.
@fra4521
Жыл бұрын
@@Zianni great answer. Ty!
@Nico_Santoro
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Zianni, from the next giuide can you put the Time Stamp at video so is easy to find and rewatch what we missundestend? Thanks a lot
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds good, I'll do that for this one as well
@Nico_Santoro
2 жыл бұрын
@@Zianni thanks a lot man you got a new fan from Italy on YT AND TWITCH NO CAP!
@iminalotofpain8862
2 жыл бұрын
Malzahar and his kit auto pushes for him after level 2 how do I manage that efficiently?
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
Push wave and walk away until it resets lol, if you're not there after it pushes it doesn't matter XD All you do on Malz is wait for gank then flash ult. Malz is not very good for learning the game, just very niche playstyle.
@DadlyGamerTV
2 жыл бұрын
Also i love you.
@Zianni
2 жыл бұрын
love u more
@thatonecatmeme
Жыл бұрын
I just play lux and insta clear every mid wave, am I doing it right?
@MakingMoviesIRL
8 ай бұрын
I can tell you understand this. But you can't explain it. You repeat the same and define terms by using the same term😅
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