I see why Alec Guinness hated his role as Obi-Wan Kenobi. This acting and delivery is near poetry and should be remembered.
@derrickstorm6976
Жыл бұрын
And I see why he was so poor before doing Star Wars
@NPA1001
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think he rated this movie all that highly either.. he much preferred his earlier roles in the 1940s and 50s
@Orbowitz
Жыл бұрын
@@derrickstorm6976star wars sucks lol
@olympia5758
10 ай бұрын
@@OrbowitzTake that back!
@Orbowitz
10 ай бұрын
@@olympia5758 no lol
@tajniak4335
9 ай бұрын
"England without a king is unthinkable". Said Olivier Cromwell.
@Trebor74
9 ай бұрын
Even if the King was Scottish.
@corin492
6 ай бұрын
He does not mean King in a literal sense. He just means a strong head of state
@rumeunner3245
6 ай бұрын
@@Trebor74The crowns were united in 1603.
@Gehri_soch2.0
6 ай бұрын
@@rumeunner3245however there wasn't a union until the tender of Union
@benjaminguilatcoiv
4 ай бұрын
Charles was a fool.
@wikipediaintellectual7088
2 жыл бұрын
And then they restored the monarchy, became best friends and never lost their heads. The end.
@britishpa9578
2 жыл бұрын
What a plot twist😂🤣
@Brvnkaerv
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Sadly, Cromwell was dug up and his corpse tortured. Who would agree to this idea?
@xgetxsickx
2 жыл бұрын
@@sgtbuckwheat wait what 😳
@adrianwilliams6908
2 жыл бұрын
@@Brvnkaerv Nothing sad about it. Well deserved desecration of his remains
@joechang8696
2 жыл бұрын
About as helpful as divorce counseling
@30firebirds
2 жыл бұрын
I've often thought about the irony of Richard Harris, an Irishman, in the role of Oliver Cromwell.
@alabamaal225
2 жыл бұрын
The role paid well. And you will note that Cromwell's actions in Ireland was never mentioned in the movie.
@farmerned6
2 жыл бұрын
@@alabamaal225 Neither were the Irish actions that caused them NOR the Scotish invasion of England either England was being threaten by Catholic europe, Backstabbers couldn't be allowed
@CHALETARCADE
2 жыл бұрын
@@farmerned6 You could litterally write the same thing about Napoleon, France was being threaten by monarchies across Europe, democracy couldn't be allowed, he had to become an Emperor. What one wouldn't excuse in the name of their beloved country!😁
@farmerned6
2 жыл бұрын
@@CHALETARCADE # Hardly Boney accepted an Emperors lauels, and tried to conquer europe, russia and egypt, buying "honour" with victorys paid with blood Cromwell refused the Crown and the title of King, and tried repeatedly to forge a working peoples Parliment Bonely was a backline pounder, Cromwell Lead
@godfrey_of_america
2 жыл бұрын
We are all Aryan
@MM22966
2 жыл бұрын
"You may strike me down, Cromwell, but I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
@woodwyrm
2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@chrismc410
Жыл бұрын
And he did in the end
@MM22966
Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, you're right. "There is another....in France." "The son of Stuart must not become a king."
@phillipmorel5116
4 ай бұрын
Fun fact Alec Guinness actually wished he never played Obi-Wan because people only remembered him for Star Wars when he had so many great roles
@MM22966
4 ай бұрын
@@phillipmorel5116 I had heard that. Which is funny when so many actors peak and then take unremembered bit roles as they get older.
@leftcoaster67
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Guinness stammered some of his lines, means he understood Charles 1 and how to play him.
@user-it5td8hg4i
Жыл бұрын
He also has an inconsistent accent. His accent becomes notably more Scottish when he's angry, but when talking normally he has only the slightest Scottish touch to his voice. It's brilliant.
@user-rg9es6rj7r
9 ай бұрын
That’s just Guinness’ accent. Charles I was born in Scotland but didn’t live there beyond infancy. Guinness himself was English.
@nickhartman6372
Жыл бұрын
Alec Guinnes is truly one of the greatest actors in history. Its a shame most people only know of him because of Star Wars.
@Orbowitz
Жыл бұрын
I've always thought his best role was as Prince Faisal in Lawrence of Arabia
@2001Karel
10 ай бұрын
The bridge on the river Kwai, Murder by death, Caesar and Cleopatra
@mr.perceval6811
9 ай бұрын
The Lady Killers.
@GalootWrangler
9 ай бұрын
@@mr.perceval6811 While we’re on Ealing, let’s add eight roles in Kind Hearts and Coronets.
@stevendebettencourt7651
8 ай бұрын
I often hear this argument, but I don’t agree with it. Think of all the great stage actors whose names are lost to history despite overwhelming talent. Imagine if Patrick Stewart never became Captain Jean-Luc Picard. By having a role remembered by all, though it may not have been his best, Sir Alex will be remembered by many for generations to come, and this we’ll also remember the true masterpieces.
@boredlawyer3382
2 жыл бұрын
Their discussion actually reflects two competing political theories at the time. King Charles has a French view of the monarchy, as being the source of all power. Cromwell is talking about a Constitutional monarchy, in which the king is first in power, but not all powerful. After a few decades of strife, Cromwell's vision was adopted with the Glorious Revolution, and then continued when the Hanoverian kings had to live with limits on their power, and ever more influential Prime Ministers.
@williamwalsh3565
2 жыл бұрын
A great observation, well put!
@emmettbrown6418
2 жыл бұрын
Good summation of their cover stories. It was more of a naive king vs. Money.
@KoolKman
2 жыл бұрын
Are you merely a Bored Lawyer or more pertinently..An interestingly well versed Historian?
@yozor.8693
2 жыл бұрын
So speaks Captain Obvious
@alexander9703
2 жыл бұрын
I think Charles' understanding of the English monarchy was entirely consistent with the principles of what had been a very powerful monarchy, unlike the French which had only over the course of the previous century become so centralised.
@johnathanryan2117
2 жыл бұрын
Superb acting by top notch actors.
@Shadowman4710
2 жыл бұрын
Too bad the script is so full of historical holes...
@swaldron5558
2 жыл бұрын
Unlike today boring actors and boring scripts.
@xgetxsickx
2 жыл бұрын
How? It's just Englishmen being English.
@johnathanryan2117
2 жыл бұрын
@@xgetxsickx Richard Harris is Irish pal
@erikrudolph9483
9 ай бұрын
"Not by fear but by the affection of a free people." Damn. That hit.
@Samuel-wm1xr
9 ай бұрын
literal propaganda haha
@Zadir09
9 ай бұрын
@@Samuel-wm1xrhow so lol? In the UK the King is completely separate from the government in every way but name, they can’t use prerogative powers unless the overwhelming majority of people support their measures. If the British people wanted they could overthrow the crown in a second, but why? They would lose much more than they would gain and would cause social unrest since the crown is what holds the government/state/people together as one. The tax paid to the crown is so immensely small and in return they get greater international influence with the King&Commonwealth which they need for trade, especially as they are outside EU now. they were actually pretty smart in retrospect by keeping a king for show, although it does sound awfully close to a gilded cage scenario.
@ethanmcfarland8240
8 ай бұрын
@@Samuel-wm1xr How so?
@jamesmasztalerz5930
11 ай бұрын
"I am not bound to negotiate with anyone, with 50 thousand men under my command I could impose a government on this nation overnight"
@Superking.Menthol
9 ай бұрын
And you wonder how he possibly could have lost his head 😂
@zippymufo9765
15 күн бұрын
@@Superking.MentholHe didn't lose it until after his death. Not quite the same effect to dig up a corpse and decapitate it.
@lukes3dworks533
2 жыл бұрын
0:14, for a moment there I thought the Star Wars "Force" theme was going to play lol
@pogimax
2 жыл бұрын
Was gonna comment on that too!
@jeremygerlach5488
2 жыл бұрын
Such a blue balls moment 😂 good catch
@adamrules01
2 жыл бұрын
Cromwell Skywalker
@quakethedoombringer
2 жыл бұрын
@@adamrules01 more like Darth Cromwell
@argentiquenoborentino6780
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 same here
@crazyman8472
9 ай бұрын
“That wasn’t part of the deal.” “I am altering the deal, pray I do not alter it any further.” 😎
@iainclark5964
2 жыл бұрын
What is being offered to the King here is the Heads of Proposals, considered the most generous terms for Charles and most of his advisers urged him to accept them. His father (James 1) would have done so.
@LordMerji
2 жыл бұрын
And that was the day the King lost the high ground.
@stevechance150
2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I see what you did there.
@jeffransom9480
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing acting. So much underhanded subtlety, pointing to what history tells us about their ambitions.
@NUSORCA
Жыл бұрын
00:14 sounds like Star Wars for 3 sec
@SavoPaddy
9 ай бұрын
Harris and Guinness go together like Harris and Guinness :) Harris sacrificed a promising singing career on the back of Macarthur Park to prepare for this role (altered his voice significantly). A proud Irishman playing Cromwell in a rather sympathetic portrayal, that was a brave role for an Irishman to take on. Two one-offs thankfully preserved on screen forever.
@starguy2718
2 жыл бұрын
If you strike me down, Cromwell, I shall become more powerful than you can know.
@Badonicus
2 жыл бұрын
These are not the proposals we're looking for!
@justinian-the-great
2 жыл бұрын
If you ever wondered how this ended it goes like this: After king Charles refused the deal, he went into hiding on some Godforsaken sand planet and took the name Ben. But, as he felt the urge to help the young boy Richard, he invaded the Death-to-Irish Star and faced the Darth Lord Protector in a single combat. Ben, that is Charles, was defeated, but as Darth Lord Protector struck him down he became more powerful than the Darth could possibly imagine. Eventually returning as the Royal Force ghost, he revealed to the young Richard that the Darth Lord Protector is actually his father Oliver Cromwell and that he, Richard Cromwell must become the new Lord Protector (but not the Darth one, since it's you know.....evil).
@thebandit0256
Жыл бұрын
Hang on both of them should have their iconic characters and not Alec Guinness what about Oliver Cromwell change his name to Albus Dumbledore
@dagobert1234321
Жыл бұрын
You left the part out that Sir Oliver studied the arts of Merlin and joined the order of wizards 🧙♂️ somewhere in Scotland.. there he continued his lifelong passion for civil rights and confronted a friend by the name of Grindelwald.. at the twilight of his career he mentored a young Rizzard named Harry…. (Another story)
@Jaxymann
Ай бұрын
Praise be to the late Richard Harris and Alec Guinness, two of the greatest actors of all time
@urmo345
2 ай бұрын
Historically accurate: Charles I was stupidly steadfast!
@perfectionbox
2 жыл бұрын
Awwww Charles, you blew it 😪
@user-kt1jf7mk5i
9 ай бұрын
Charles I actually did have a slight stutter and Alec Guinness even does that.
@mn5499
2 жыл бұрын
This makes Oliver Cromwell look far more reasonable that what he actually was.
@Malt454
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but Charles I rejected a good deal of reality himself... to predictable results.
@mn5499
2 жыл бұрын
@@Malt454 I don't think he rejected reality, Charles the 1st simply stood on a political position that was not a tenable as he thought it was.
@Malt454
2 жыл бұрын
@@mn5499- When "not tenable" translates as "having your head chopped off", you've made a seriously delusional miscalculation about the lay of the land. Charles was in denial that he was even being tried, when it should have been obvious that no one was bothering going through the exercise on any assumption that he was somehow inherently innocent because of either his title or philosophy.
@mn5499
2 жыл бұрын
@@Malt454 I disagree with the word delusional, because its plain wrong, there were many rulers say for example in France and across the world that were acting as absolute monarchs even after the time of Charles the first. So its certainly not delusional to think that at the time. Charles the first made mistakes that pressed others to take action against him which made his position untenable. The republican project failed and then comes in Charles the 2nd the merry monarch.
@Malt454
2 жыл бұрын
@@mn5499 - Believing that what other people thought of the theory of Divine Right somehow mattered when Charles I was in the dock on trial for his life is a good example of delusion, as is questioning the legitimacy of the court TO the court. The loss of the Civil War should have been a good indication that Charles' views on the monarchy were no longer strongly in vogue at the time. I guess if God had ever wanted Charles to be king, He must have changed His mind.
@ButsNustin
2 жыл бұрын
This movie is actually really good. I know it’s a bit of harmless fun, but constantly making Obi Wan and Dumbledore jokes seems kinda insulting to the amount of effort these actors put into their roles.
@randbarrett8706
2 жыл бұрын
It’s sucks to have an iconic role that people identify you with
@MrJoobafob
2 жыл бұрын
Sir Alec Guinness would've absolutely hated it. He had a bit of a love-hate relationship with Star Wars, but was always adamant that he'd played far better roles than Obi Wan. I think he hated that a role in a pulpy sci-fi blockbuster outshone all his other work in more "serious" productions. He was perhaps a little bit snobbish about it, but I totally get where he was coming from.
@alabamaal225
2 жыл бұрын
It is hard to imagine any other actor than Alec Guinness playing the role of King Charles I as effectively.
@methos-ey9nf
2 жыл бұрын
I'll always remember Richard Harris as Augustus, Emperor of Rome
@ButsNustin
2 жыл бұрын
@@alabamaal225 exactly! He even went through the effort of working in a stutter and spoke with a slight Scottish accent during his brief moment of anger.
@huntermoore7669
Жыл бұрын
Charlie’s really dropped the ball here..all he had to do as just alter his power a bit and he’d keep his head
@joshuagrover795
11 ай бұрын
If you look at the "Heads of the Proposals" given to the King by Cromwell and his supporters, the main proposals are very reasonable. 1. Royalists had to wait five years before running for or holding an office. 2. The Book of Common Prayer was allowed to be read but not mandatory, and no penalties should be made for not going to church or attending other acts of worship. 3. The sitting parliament was to set a date for its own termination. Thereafter, biennial Parliaments were to be called (i.e., every two years), which would sit for a minimum of 120 days and a maximum of 240 days. Constituencies were to be reorganized. 4. Episcopacy would be retained in church government, but the power of the bishops would be substantially reduced. 5. Parliament was to control the appointment of state officials and officers in the army and navy for 10 years.
@robbied2113
9 ай бұрын
World class bumbler that guy.
@lohancindy5442
2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledor vs Obi Wan
@vitodereine5360
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh...
@stevechance150
2 жыл бұрын
@King of All Buttocks Seriously?! You're not that dumb.
@lohancindy5442
2 жыл бұрын
@King of All Buttocks LOTR reference ? There is no Leonard nemoy.
@oremstale8558
2 жыл бұрын
@King of All Buttocks embarrassing of u
@nqh4393
2 жыл бұрын
Charles I was a noble individual, but an inept ruler. Cromwell was a competent ruler, but a terrible human being.
@KaiserFranzJosefI
2 жыл бұрын
Charles I was nothing of the sort. Alec Guiness was a magnificent actor but his portrayal of Charles was nothing short of Royal propaganda. In reality, Charles I was vain, adulterous, rather cruel and a thief. He was far from a noble individual but instead your average European monarch desperate to gain absolute power
@philswaim392
2 жыл бұрын
And thats when he lost his crown
@lucastaylor2321
2 жыл бұрын
Shortly after... he was put on trial at Westminster first.. then his body lost its head.
@williameddy3895
Жыл бұрын
An England without a king is unthinkable.
@MuddieRain
2 жыл бұрын
“Lord Protector is but another name for King, and you're a cruel one.”
@nickcharnley19
9 ай бұрын
oh dear, we do like fighting each other, I hope memory serves that together we achieved a fair bit, Tribal rivalries are always there, but with humour and a sense of common destiny, these small islands, can create great things.
@olivercromwell1599
Жыл бұрын
Good old days...
@angloaust1575
2 жыл бұрын
Difficult to say whether such a conversation took place However that's movie making Dialogue liberties!
@bigblue6917
2 жыл бұрын
I believe something like it did happen. Though whether that is word for word is in doubt.
@sablewright8053
10 ай бұрын
I have this marvelous film on DVD After I had seen this on Turner Classic Movies TCM. Such superb acting in this film. And the costumes simply excellent. Love this ❤❤❤❤
@Zinj1000
2 ай бұрын
You can see the look on the man with the king. He realized the king was actually the one in the wrong, beyond reason. Great acting from everyone here.
@shaalis
2 жыл бұрын
That Cromwell wishes a rule not through fear is ironic considering what he did at Drogheda, and what he lined the roads back to towns with.
@mr31337
2 жыл бұрын
On Monday, 10 September 1649, Cromwell had a letter delivered to Sir Arthur Aston, which read: "Sir, having brought the army of the Parliament of England before this place, to reduce it to obedience, *to the end that the effusion of blood may be prevented*, I thought fit to summon you to deliver the same into my hands to their use. *If this be refused, you will have no cause to blame me.* I expect your answer and remain your servant, - O. Cromwell" The contemporary laws of war were clear; if surrender was refused and a garrison was taken by assault, then its defenders could lawfully be killed. Such things didn't just happen in Ireland, it happened all over England and the rest of Europe. So while your mileage may vary, it sounds to me Aston was a dopey cunt and got all the innocent people of Drogheda killed, *not Cromwell* contrary to popular romantic Irish mythology. Still, its 372 years ago and everybody should just fucking get over it. Peace. :-)
@screamingseal4805
9 ай бұрын
@@mr31337yeah OP is just spewing royalist propaganda
@ronniecozzi8385
2 жыл бұрын
Ask the Irish what they think of Cromwell.
@Oran_Fitz
3 ай бұрын
he was great, he helped civilise our barbaric land and, while i am atheist and do not support religious governance, he did at least shift the power away from the catholic church in favour of a more politics first, religion second republic.
@ronniecozzi8385
3 ай бұрын
@@Oran_Fitz The Catholic Church civilized Europe after the end of the Roman empire. They were the foundation that provided stability until the Renaissance. Thank you Jesus for the Catholic Church, your church, that will exist until the final coming. My prayers are for atheists in hope they see the light.
@zekeigtos7240
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't gone by the name of Charles I since...oh...before you were born.
@EngPheniks
Жыл бұрын
Both actors played Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius
@peterdavies2960
Жыл бұрын
The Force and Magic having an agreement 😂
@hevyjameshulleza461
2 жыл бұрын
And his head apparently...
@QWEStudios
Жыл бұрын
0:14 I hate that it sounds like the opening notes to the Force theme to me lmao
@levilevis9032
Жыл бұрын
I see Obi Wan finally got to meet Dumbledore.
@lorddodge2867
5 ай бұрын
"Use the Force, Harry" - Gandalf
@BathSaltShaman
Жыл бұрын
*Alternate film ending but it's just this scene perfectly as is except the credits roll a half-second after Guinness says "A cunning fellow."*
@swarnski8uu
3 ай бұрын
I control the military, i can instill a government overnight.! Truer words never spoken. He may be king, but if his military abandons him, who is he, if he does not lead?
@SuperGreatSphinx
2 ай бұрын
Ares
@troyleegaspard4950
2 жыл бұрын
Their future relations were less than amicable.
@davididiart5934
2 жыл бұрын
Might have been alright, if Charles didn't lose his head over the whole thing...
@nelsonwalker7105
4 ай бұрын
i love this scene one of my favorites in this film
@sunnyjim1355
Ай бұрын
No deal was negotiated here.. as Charles I was soon after to realize. 😂
@88kjk75
2 жыл бұрын
Me thinks Obi Wan lost the high ground in this one
@Football__Junkie
2 жыл бұрын
The fashion of this period was interesting
@therearenoshortcuts9868
6 ай бұрын
"whatever these proposals may be, they are not acceptable to the King" Obi Wan was determined to become one with the Force LOL
@nialldoyle8206
2 жыл бұрын
When the war criminal Cromwell died it is said there wasn’t a full bottle of alcohol in the country the next day.
2 жыл бұрын
I need a fanfiction of these two making out.
@chrismc410
Жыл бұрын
Or worse: bustin' cheeks
@jmc6687
2 жыл бұрын
There was no limit to Cromwell's treachery.
@Artur-qq1ef6zm1l
2 жыл бұрын
specifically in this situation, the traitor Charles, who preferred to collude with foreign powers and Catholics than to share power with parliament
@Treblaine
2 жыл бұрын
@@Artur-qq1ef6zm1l It's exactly what Parliament would do a few years later, they would collude with a foreign protestant power to oust a king they didn't like for being too Catholic. And before that it was standard practice for monarchs to get military support from other countries to support what were otherwise domestic conflicts.
@Artur-qq1ef6zm1l
2 жыл бұрын
@@Treblaine I didn't say that the parliament in this story was a good guy! but the execution of the king and the civil war eventually made England a better place as well as France :)the divine right of kings had to be destroyed because it contradicted progress and human rights! in addition, it was the bourgeois revolutions that finally destroyed the remnants of feudalism and allowed more progressive capitalism to earn
@Treblaine
2 жыл бұрын
@@Artur-qq1ef6zm1l it is still hypocritical for Parliament to say it's so unthinkably wrong to collude with a foreign power to overtake a country then go and do that themselves when it suits their theocratic ideals. This act of treachery is still referred to as "Glorious". They took away the king's power not because he threatened individuals in his realm but was perceived as a threat to Protestantism as a religion where individual human rights were secondary to establishing that religious belief. They didn't want to end religious discrimination, they wanted religious discrimination to go one way but not the other. It established a new theocracy where it was great if you were part of the established religion and progressively worse for those who deviated more and more from the state religion. Now the fact that later parliament would mellow and moderate and SLOWLY over CENTURIES begrudgingly ease their state sponsored discrimination is something to celebrate but then and only when they actually did that. There are still no individual rights that actually limit the legislature or the government in the UK/ Whatever "rights" you have in England are simply what Parliament hasn't gotten round to outlawing yet. You have a right to protest right up until Parliament says you don't and there's NOTHING you can do about it if they take it away. There is only one right in the UK and that is the right for Parliament to do whatever the hell they like. English courts can only EXPAND what is forbidden by law, not decrease it. They cannot invalidate a law for violating rights because the UK has "absolute supremacy of Parliament".
@Artur-qq1ef6zm1l
2 жыл бұрын
@@Treblaine I'm not saying that this system is perfect, I generally sympathize with the Communists and the USSR, and if we talk about the revolution that had a huge impact, it's French, not English! perhaps the British really need a king and religious fanaticism in the end, the imperial consciousness and sense of their own fake greatness have not left them, this is especially noticeable in the example of the United States, which is simply the British Empire in a new wrapper
@Darrowenthusiast
2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore vs Obi Wan
@rickjones1176
9 ай бұрын
this movie ignores the slaughter of 33% of the irish population and the abject cruelty cromwell put on ireland
@SuperGreatSphinx
2 ай бұрын
The Emerald
@peterdavies2960
Жыл бұрын
To all you Yanks out there, they’re Obi-Wan Kenobe and Albus Dumbledore as young men in 17th Century England 😂
@arcadealchemist
2 жыл бұрын
use the force mr Cromwell.
@rainmanslim4611
2 жыл бұрын
Xavier's school has a lot of history I see
@ilphi08
9 ай бұрын
Charles I kind of forced Cromwell's hand Cromwell was definitely not thrilled to execute a king considering the time period and potential backlash around rest of europe
@maxewmathwell
3 ай бұрын
Nicol Williamson (Excalibur) should have played Obi-Wan Kenobi.
@johansmallberries9874
2 жыл бұрын
I do wonder, and I’m not so pedantic to consider this a mistake just a conversation point, if a visitor would be allowed to rest his hand on his sword pommel like this in the presence of the essentially unguarded king.
@lesigh1749
9 ай бұрын
At that point, the king had essentially lost the civil war, and Cromwell held the greater military power. had he wanted the king dead he wouldn't have dropped by to visit with just one friend.
@jamesbarlow6423
2 жыл бұрын
(:58) Check out the anachronistic white metal door and window frames behind Cromwell!😅
@raminybhatti5740
Жыл бұрын
A cunning fellow and a good friend.
@andrewpestotnik5495
9 ай бұрын
The best Starhorse Rider in all of Christendome
@googleuser4720
2 ай бұрын
0:39 Of course I know him, he's me!
@rjstine1247
9 ай бұрын
Obi Wan and Dumbledore
@rob5944
Жыл бұрын
Some intellectual discourse here, which is nice to read. However we must be mindful that were are discussing the acts and motivations of people who lived in a very different world to our own, and therefore not be quick to judge and condemn. Society changes and moreover continues to, my own beliefs and opinions certainly have over the last few months in particular.
@damianbylightning6823
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your good sense. Most comments on here are irrelevant! They all want to impose our beliefs and motivations on that time. This is a stupid thing to do. They were people stumbling along, often making things up as they fumbled - but we often think of them as decisive . The period has roots that go way back and this adds to our confusion and added to theirs. They created a giant pudding of an idea and sections of the rising classes wanted it to work. We are now going through the same thing with mumbo-jumbo like Net Zero - though I think the loony ideas of the old religious fanatics will prove more useful than our contemporary fanatics.
@stevevollbach
9 ай бұрын
watching this i cant help but wonder what george smiley and peter guillam are actually up to....
@vardellsfolly5200
2 жыл бұрын
Αll i see is Obi-Wan confronting Dumbledore..
@hellokitty-ui9rd
3 ай бұрын
watched this film in school
@TurboMMaster
2 жыл бұрын
Not that I'm questioning Cromwell's political skills and effectivenes as military leader, but Charles I was kinda joke as opponent. I mean, he literally would rather die than share the power, even after it was obvious the he can't be absolute monarch.
@notnek202
6 ай бұрын
Charles I beheaded his son restored to the throne as Charles II.
@pacificrules
2 жыл бұрын
Both sides lost. 1. King's Charles' pride and arrogance that he can commit any crime and get away with only because he was "ordained by God" and therefore can only "answer to God." 2. The Honorable Oliver Cromwell angrily and impetuously acted against the King and the Commons to retain power and forcing Honorable gentlemen to sign the beheading.
@samuelbastable2028
2 жыл бұрын
Charles Also lost his head so.
@Joker-yw9hl
2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow all the comments are from the past day or 2. Hi folks
@perfectionbox
2 жыл бұрын
Cromwell: Greetings my Lord. Charles: Hello there.
@themiband0598
2 жыл бұрын
recent comments a surprise to be sure but a welcome one
@Drone_PilotSG
2 жыл бұрын
It’s all fun and games until cromwell killed the king
@ememmeme8722
2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore asked calmly
@Kerorofan1990
2 жыл бұрын
@@proudblack9453 I mean, he was. That's Richard Harris as Cromwell. He played Dumbledore in the first two movies before he passed away.
@wandaperi
2 жыл бұрын
Normie
@theoutlook55
2 жыл бұрын
@Ethan S wrong Dumbledore.
@theenclave50
Жыл бұрын
A tyrant for a tyrant.
@notnek202
6 ай бұрын
King Charles III is a direct descendant of King Charles I sister Elisabeth.
@equusquaggaquagga536
2 жыл бұрын
I'd trust Charlie about as far as I could throw him
@davesy6969
9 ай бұрын
Oliver, i am your father.
@toniclark1677
Жыл бұрын
Oliver Cromwell is actually my 9th great grandfather
@zephyr8072
9 ай бұрын
Ah yes, one of the most tense and dramatic scenes in Kenobi vs. Dumbledore.
@intothemultiverse1033
Жыл бұрын
“A cunning fellow… from a certain point of view”
@SuperGreatSphinx
2 ай бұрын
Salazar Slytherin
@Thanonemo
2 жыл бұрын
I felt the sexual tension.
@mnlasalvador
6 күн бұрын
Obi wan and Dumbledore are enemies then
@BenSteele875
2 ай бұрын
Still confused as to why Obi Wan and Phil Collins are at conflict.
@thepointlesstroll5702
3 ай бұрын
Are those buildings historically accurate?
@johnhand8879
2 жыл бұрын
How did they not laugh at one another
@penultimateh766
2 жыл бұрын
Except that Charles was NOT a tyrant, and Cromwell WAS ambitions.
@vexjaeger4314
2 жыл бұрын
And to be sure Cromwell is honorable man....
@Dularr
2 жыл бұрын
How was Charles I not a tyrant?
@michaelf7093
2 жыл бұрын
@@vexjaeger4314 Cromwell was great for England. Terrible for Ireland.
@penultimateh766
2 жыл бұрын
@@vexjaeger4314 The fault lies not in our stars but in ourselves that we are underlings.
@penultimateh766
2 жыл бұрын
@@Dularr He wasn't a particularly kleptocratic king, just a tin-eared one.
@BirbarianHomeGuard
11 ай бұрын
You can’t win, Dumbledore. Strike me down, and I’ll become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
@GentTX
2 жыл бұрын
“An England without a King is unthinkable” Curious if any British in the comments still feel the same way? Edit: this not a personal wish of mine (love you Queenie), I’m American and don’t know what the general feeling of the British public views of the monarchy are these days.
@methos-ey9nf
2 жыл бұрын
@DriftZ TwoSeven WTF are you talking about?
@seanmoran6510
2 жыл бұрын
Well your presidents are using executive power like kings 😉 I wouldn’t get to smug if I were you I’m with Orwell ref the crown and constitutional monarchy Unfortunately the progressive politics emanating from your country are undermining that as much as there undermining your nation. The Great War and Vietnam did huge damage to our nations as has unrestrained progressive materialism
@GentTX
2 жыл бұрын
@@seanmoran6510 I wasn’t being smug, I only wanted to know if most British people think the monarchy is still worth keeping around. Never claimed to sympathize with Cromwells views, guy was a nut. This has nothing to do with politics (least of all American politics) but about preserving heritage
@Marcus280898
2 жыл бұрын
It would certainly seem weird for a time, but I'm sure we'd get over it eventually. Of course there would always be a Royalist faction, and like what happened in Russia and China, we might end up with a King by another name.
@no.stop.6894
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@a.t.c.3862
2 жыл бұрын
So the King made himself unacceptable.
@ryan.1990
6 ай бұрын
The audacity of Cromwell
@luisaugustobonilha8210
2 жыл бұрын
Charles I did not want to hand over the rings so as not to lose his fingers he ended up losing his "head" in this fight. Interesting to see that in England power was being transferred to parliament in a more natural way, although not without blood, as there was not such an absolute nobility; in France, on the other hand, a festival of rolling heads was necessary, among them that of the chemist Lavoisier, such was the concentration of power in the hands of the nobility and a greater prevailing social injustice.
@CHALETARCADE
2 жыл бұрын
Lavoisier was aguably the greatest chemist that ever existed, what a blunder that was! And by the way, how many great scientists, or potential great scientists perished during the Terror? Nobody knows, but probably more than a few...😔
@keithbell3926
2 жыл бұрын
How hard must it have been for an Irishman to play Cromwell considering what he did to the Irish
@asdf33395
10 ай бұрын
it was 350 years ago, I don't think it weighed too heavily on him
@keithbell3926
10 ай бұрын
Then you don’t know the Irish
@deaconstjohn4842
9 ай бұрын
@@asdf33395 you'd be surprised by how some people take heritage really seriously. History is never forgotten and should never be forgotten, so I'm sure it was quite the challenge for Richard Harris
@m1821Z
9 ай бұрын
Richard Harris was actually very adamant about playing the role BECAUSE he was Irish. Harris believed Cromwell was misrepresented by history and post-humous depictions, and that simply throwing all the blame at Cromwell was very ignorant. Harris was spot on after all, it was the Covenanters who ravaged Ireland much more brutally than the New Model Army, and one cannot forget the fact that the Royalists used Ireland as a base of operations in a war that did nothing for the interests of Irish people.
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