When STH reviewed a bunch of these a few years ago, none of them could get close to 5Gbps, and they were big, bulky, and expensive. It’s nice that this one seems to be close to 5Gbps and cheap… but the software support looks quirky for now, which isn’t what I generally want when connecting with Ethernet.
@Level2Jeff
3 сағат бұрын
Yeah, driver support is still working its way down to all the OSes... hopefully within a year or two, this chipset will be well supported everywhere (and Apple will understand what "5000 Mbps" means lol).
@Gamer4Eire
3 сағат бұрын
I am using 2.5gbps versions and they have been rock solid for over a year
@eat.a.dick.google
3 сағат бұрын
What STH reviewed years ago is a different vendor chipset (Aquantia) and due to the choice of USB PHY they were coupled with at the time they were not capable of achieving full throughput, the MAC chipset was. These adapters are capable of full throughput.
@grizredford8407
3 сағат бұрын
That's because at the time the USB side of the chip could only link at 5gb, the missing 1.5gb was the overhead, this new chip can link at 10gb on the USB side so can deliver 5gb on the Ethernet side.
@greendblink182
3 сағат бұрын
I think the title needs to be changed to 5Gbps or something. 5G to me means the cellular network 5G
@phgamer4393
3 сағат бұрын
i will admit i thought the same thing. im like oooo where. cause all 5g isps are unlimited only to a certian point then massive throttle and charge 10$ per gig
@mynameiszakk
3 сағат бұрын
100% what I thought when I clicked… then I read your comment while an ad played, so I guess I wasn’t quite as disappointed as I could’ve been lol
@baggerz896
2 сағат бұрын
Agreed
@tracyrreed
2 сағат бұрын
Ditto
@SlyNine
2 сағат бұрын
I didn't, but now that you say that.. I'm surprised I didn't.
@michaelmu6765
3 сағат бұрын
I kinda forgot that ethernet speeds exist in 5gb so I thought it was 5G, as in cell connection. That would be wild if it was that. Still cool to have though! It's a nice option to have.
@jaguarke069
3 сағат бұрын
I never heard anyone say G for Gb. Gig yes, G no.
@Level2Jeff
Сағат бұрын
For 10 GbE, a lot of times people refer to it as 10G, sometimes 2.5 Gbps as 2.5G, 1 Gbps sometimes 1G, but also Gbase-T, or Gig, or Gigabits, etc.
@Level2Jeff
Сағат бұрын
(And in this case, just using the convention WisdPi used in their product naming, I didn't even think twice about it)
@grizredford8407
3 сағат бұрын
I'd put money on the Mac only having 5gb USB ports, the missing 1.5gb is the overhead, you need to plug it into a 10gb USB port to get 5gb on the Ethernet side.
@ThorstenDrews
2 сағат бұрын
All USB-C Ports on the Mac Studio are 10Gb capable, The USB-A Connectors on the back are only 5Gb. Buit it would be interesting what the result would be with the Thunderbolt ports on the back. I have one of these cheap Aliexpress USB4/TB3 10Gb interfaces for my Macbook Pro and I get normal speeds around 9.25Gb so I would assume that the macOS driver for these 5Gb NIC is not really optimized.
@Level2Jeff
Сағат бұрын
Yeah I didn't think about trying one of the TB4 ports, but may retest like that. I should probably upgrade someday to the higher tier Mac Studio, would be nice having all that TB4 bandwidth everywhere!
@Krakkel
3 сағат бұрын
5Gb not 5G 😅
@handspiker1994
4 сағат бұрын
"zero minutes ago"
@Level2Jeff
4 сағат бұрын
Not anymore!
@pixselious
4 сағат бұрын
4 minutes ago😔
@benargee
2 сағат бұрын
5gig 2fast4U
@enitalp
3 сағат бұрын
USB C to Ethernet POE to power the computer 🤤
@romanrm1
2 сағат бұрын
There are PCI-E RTL8126 NICs too. But no cheap switches, so I would not say the 5G Ethernet has entirely arrived yet.
@asksearchknock
24 минут бұрын
Perfect timing… this is exactly what I have been looking for 😊 thanks Jeff! Hope the family is doing well
@JiriBrejcha
2 сағат бұрын
Nice one, Jeff. I tested the WisdPi adapter too. I had the exact same experience on macOS. On Windows 11 under load (generated traffic by iperf3) it often freezes and disconnects. On Raspberry Pi 5 and 4 I had no luck yet - I ran into driver issues. The thermal performance is great though, it runs warm but so much significantly cooler than the 10 GbE adapters based on AQC chip.
@Level2Jeff
2 сағат бұрын
Hopefully Realtek can get the driver stuff sorted better. It's already faster than my 2.5G adapters at home and the office, so I'm using it for my laptop.
@ClockDev
Сағат бұрын
I'm very happy higher speed Ethernet is now that cheap. I hope more computers could have those speeds in a very near future, there isn't any excuse to add NICs like that :-)
@kchiem
33 минут бұрын
We're going to have to start calling it the Geerling effect--when Jeff shows off something in a video, and it sells out immediately.
@markjones2349
54 минут бұрын
This will be a nice future upgrade for my HPE Proliant MicroServer Gen10 Plus in the future. Having a USB solution is needed with the only PCIe slot being taken up by an NVME to PCIe adapter board.
@Cooper3312000
2 сағат бұрын
The speed of NVME SSD's these days even 10g is too slow.
@indianyuri5263
3 сағат бұрын
I thought you put a 5G sim in this. Confusing title 😂
@codyrap95
3 сағат бұрын
I think the title can use an improvement. 5G most of the time refers to cell connection
@eat.a.dick.google
3 сағат бұрын
It always does. It should say 5 GbE.
@Level2Jeff
2 сағат бұрын
Take it up with WisdPi! I call it "5 Gig" or "5 Gbps", I'm just calling it what the product name shows, plus it creates a lot more engagement in the comments :)
@jmcasler1512
3 сағат бұрын
Ordered two, thanks Jeff!
@Level2Jeff
Сағат бұрын
So you're the one who ordered the last two! :D
@timballam3675
2 сағат бұрын
Still remember installing IIT cat5 STP cable rated to 500MHz back in the early 2000s, I think every site ripped it out as their new it support companies said they needed Cat5e to run gigabit!
@Level2Jeff
2 сағат бұрын
But Cat5 was so easy to pull in bundles... so much harder with Cat6A or the insanity that is Cat8!
@Skiman__
4 сағат бұрын
Hope there’s a pcie version too. Would probably be the easiest way to cheaply link a home nas to my pc at decent ssd speeds(sata, but still) lol. Thought as you said the 2.5gb and up switches are pretty expensive, I guess a crosslink ethernet cable would be better a fit?
@Level2Jeff
4 сағат бұрын
There is! I haven't yet gotten one but WisdPi sells a PCIe Gen 3 card, plus a little SFP module that does 1/2.5/5G, which is nice. All pretty reasonably priced.
@EarnestWilliamsGeofferic
3 сағат бұрын
@@Level2Jeff Hmmm! Thanks for this detail!
@lemagreengreen
Сағат бұрын
Cool, if the cheap chips are out there maybe we'll start seeing them become integrated.
@Level2Jeff
Сағат бұрын
I hope so! Motherboards could use the update too
@AindriuMacGiollaEoin
4 сағат бұрын
Really neat, 2.5G became much cheaper
@Level2Jeff
3 сағат бұрын
Still not down to 1G levels of "$10 for a cheap switch", but getting closer. Certainly enough that anyone building out a little homelab should go with 2.5 Gbps at least now.
@eat.a.dick.google
3 сағат бұрын
2.5 GbE is at 1 GbE pricing now. 1 GbE is down to what was 100 Mbps pricing.
2 сағат бұрын
Awesome. I had better go and downgrade my 10Gb ethernet to 5Gb....
@Level2Jeff
53 минут бұрын
If you're okay with the speed, the nice thing is power consumption / heat is a lot lower, assuming it's RJ45
@13Cubed
3 сағат бұрын
Very cool. I have a stupid question -- how are you screen recording Safari and Terminal, maximized, such that they perfectly fill the 3840x2160 frame, while being large enough to easily view/read? Do you have a 3840x2160 display connected to your Mac, or are you doing other magic to accomplish this? I constantly fight with macOS screen recording to make it look right, be it in ScreenFlow or OBS.
@jackthatmonkey8994
3 сағат бұрын
I think he records by just directly copying the screen output. He's been recording direct raspberry pi output with no OBS/ScreenCap on the RPI in sight. Once you can do that I would imagine it is easy to make font size and whatnot to your liking on Apple OS's
@Level2Jeff
Сағат бұрын
Hehe, I have a blog post on it, look up "Resizing macOS app windows for 16:9 screen capture"
@13Cubed
Сағат бұрын
@@Level2Jeff Awesome, thank you, sir.
@seethruhead7119
Сағат бұрын
the S1100WP-8XGT-SE i have, i would consider cheap 10gb gear, and there's no need for any SFP adapters.
@Drebin2293
2 сағат бұрын
TP Link came out with a small unmanaged silent 8 port switch recently. It's about 6x4 in and sells for about 100usd. All the new motherboards have 2.5g. It was finally time to switch. Also picked up one of those topton N100 quad 2.5g systems for 120usd to use for a router & other services.
@TheOneKEA
2 сағат бұрын
Are you referr8ng to the TL-SG108-M2? I’ve looked at that one, but for my uses, a managed variant would be much more useful.
@Drebin2293
51 минут бұрын
@@TheOneKEA Very close. It's the smaller TL-SG108S-M2.
@eat.a.dick.google
3 сағат бұрын
On the Windows system it is using the proper Realtek driver. On macOS it is running the adapter in its compatibility mode with the CDCE driver, same goes on other OS's with such a driver and if they don't have an updated driver with the proper functionality and USB device ids.
@Behnam_Moghaddam
2 сағат бұрын
Sold out 😅 your obviosly right: we want 5Gb-Lan
@Level2Jeff
2 сағат бұрын
Oops. They had at least 18 in stock before I posted the video!
@samshort365
Сағат бұрын
Yeah, I'm in Australia. We're an internet laughing stock due to our world class infrastructure. Believe it or not I can get as much as 100Mps with fibre to the node technology. Mad speeds! I guess that 5Gbps will come to a street near me some time in 2132. Can't wait.
@Level2Jeff
Сағат бұрын
:(
@t1mmy13
2 сағат бұрын
Ooooh that is nice, moving beyond gbit is finally becoming affordable...
@DominickPeluso
49 минут бұрын
Would be cool of someone made synology drivers for this
@xaisatsana
Сағат бұрын
ah, not 5G cellular i was so confused how that was a thing
@gorombolyierik
3 сағат бұрын
5G is not equal to 5gigabit
@Level2Jeff
2 сағат бұрын
Tell that to WisdPi! ;)
@BryanSeitz
Сағат бұрын
5G ethernet has been here.... It was called NBase-T.
@aliabdallah102
2 сағат бұрын
5G? you mean 5 GbPS?
@Level2Jeff
2 сағат бұрын
Heh, they're the ones that call it a "5G Ethernet" adapter! :D I would say 5 GbE, or 5GbaseT maybe? Not sure which one is the correct technical designation. Or be like Windows, "5000 Mbps"
@Shapeshiftyr
2 сағат бұрын
Oh, cool! I have a 5gig up/down fiber plan but my motherboard only has 2.5 onboard. I might get this instead of the dedicated network card I was looking at bhecause my mobo is full lol
@KellerFkinRyan
2 сағат бұрын
ive never understood the whole ethernet adapter thing, if youre paying $300/month for 5g ethernet speeds, surely the devices youre able to afford with those kinds of expenses would come with 10G or at least 2.5g native
@Level2Jeff
2 сағат бұрын
For me, I transfer a lot of files / 4K raw footage around my networks, so having faster Ethernet is always better, no matter how fast my Internet connection.
@TimelessX974
14 минут бұрын
in Italy the 1Gb internet connection is gradually disappearing. Today if I go to make a new contract for Internet connection I am offered fiber ( FTTH ) connection at the speed of 2.5Gb / 5Gb / 10Gb, so these adapters will be more and more useful to make the most of the bandwidth. In large cities the Internet connection is only fiber ( FTTH ) at the speed of 5Gb / 10Gb / 25Gb.
@golserge
3 сағат бұрын
3G 4G 5G :D
@JonathanSwiftUK
Сағат бұрын
I want one which works properly with Windows Server - after all some of us that in home labs for testing. I don't think the Realtek chips are good for this. I'm surprised Atheros or Broadcom or Intel don't have a usb 2.5 or 5gb adapter for sale.
@GarethPW
2 сағат бұрын
Still begging for one of these without the USB 3 Gen 1 bottleneck
@AndyIsHereBoi
3 сағат бұрын
i didnt know you had 3 channels
@Level2Jeff
Сағат бұрын
How deep does the rabbit hole go...
@PolarRed
Сағат бұрын
Honestly don't think 5Gb is ever really going to be widely adopted, everything seems to be either 2.5 or 10, so if your switch is 2.5 it's a pointless, and if your switch is 10, why even bother?
@seethruhead7119
Сағат бұрын
where is the cheap 10gb thunderbolt adapters
@Level2Jeff
51 минут бұрын
They're here just crazy expensive still :(
@ergindemir7366
43 минут бұрын
The usb design on apple silicon is broken, so you should stick to 1gbps.
@yuan.pingchen3056
3 сағат бұрын
it is time to turn my 10th gen(ice-lake) laptop with two bay 2.5 inch sata drive into a home server, but I think the USB 3.0 to 2.5Gbit ethernet adapter is good enough.
@ninbura
3 сағат бұрын
Was that test on your Windows machine on a 5Gbps USB port, or a 10Gbps USB port? Does it actually get full speed on a regular USB 3.0 port?
@Level2Jeff
2 сағат бұрын
10 Gbps USB-C port for this test, it would max out around 3.5-4 Gbps probably on a regular USB 3.0 (or whatever it's called, "USB 3.2 Gen 1x4 Type 123 over C" lol).
@bradleywhais7779
Сағат бұрын
Is fiber networking not "ethernet"? The switches I work with say it is. 100gbps multimode fiber QSFP. If we use the OSFP ports, we can get much higher speeds
@sheldonkupa9120
2 сағат бұрын
I stopped using usb 2.5gbit ethernet adapters, i couldnt find one single usb port in my house where they would work reliably. Not usbc, not usb3.2, not on the mainboard, not on a powered usb hub. Neither windows nor linux. Best case they work for a while, but sooner or later they lose connection. I followed any instruction i found in forums, like switching energy saving off etc. I wasted like 2 weeks of my life😂 Most nas forums reiterate that usb is a polling architecture / protocol and therefore unreliable for network connection. I have zero issues with pcie adapters, both 2.5 gbit and 10gbit. The 1gbit usb dongles seem to work, but never tried. Whats your experience?!
@shephusted2714
32 минут бұрын
i would say people want to just go to 10g - 10g switch prices are dropping fast - saw a 8 port 10g from sodola for 140 - i have sodola 2.5g switch and it works great, i tried 2.5g bonding link agg and it was a hassle - I am going to goto 10g at some point but 2.5 is pretty good for the time being
@fanlessfurmark
3 сағат бұрын
Now sold out on website :(
@Level2Jeff
2 сағат бұрын
Sorry :( Hope they restock shortly!
@AD34534
3 сағат бұрын
I will never touch USB NICs ever again. Pretty cool device though.
@jaguarke069
3 сағат бұрын
What's wrong with them?
@AD34534
3 сағат бұрын
@@jaguarke069 Significant packet loss, overheating, constant disconnections. They're only good as a temporary solution.
@TalynOne
2 сағат бұрын
I have several. I prefer Pluggable brand, have a 2.5gbe connected 24/7 on a laptop workstation for several years with no issues (Realtek based).
@AD34534
Сағат бұрын
@@jaguarke069 Constant disconnections, packet loss, and overheating.
@jmckillican
3 сағат бұрын
was your Mac testing done on Sequoia or Sonoma? I'm seeing some weird ethernet performance in Sequoia vs Sonoma after this week's release with my 2.5Gbit USB-c devices (Anker) can only download at 1.9Gbit vs 2.4Gbit on Sonoma. I've seen other users seeing the same and while rebooting back and forth to test. Maybe the slower speeds you're seeing are related.
@Level2Jeff
2 сағат бұрын
All my testing was on Sonoma, haven't upgraded my main Macs yet (I like to give it a few weeks before upgrading!).
@dstarr3
Сағат бұрын
Hol' up, did he say you can run 5gb over cat5e?
@Level2Jeff
Сағат бұрын
Yes, over some distances
@hoarder4tech
3 сағат бұрын
Wavlink NWU340G same chipset.
@RockTheCage55
55 минут бұрын
do you know if it supports jumbo frames? I ordered a 2.5gbe from aliexpress & unfortunately no jumbo frames support.
@mistermagnifico
59 минут бұрын
It's not 5G it's 5Gbps. misleading title
@turin5675
3 сағат бұрын
It's already 43$
@AndrewClement
Сағат бұрын
Sold out :/
@huberthans4312
Сағат бұрын
Realtek? Its cheap. And it works almost everywhere. And thats the only good things to say about Realteks. Should be avoided, if possible.
@ruthandjoebarrett
2 сағат бұрын
Sold out. 😢
@Level2Jeff
2 сағат бұрын
Dangit! Hopefully they can restock soon.
@d4n93r
41 минут бұрын
I was waiting for him to insert a SIM card...
@franzpleurmann2585
3 сағат бұрын
Does the RTL8157 Chipset support VLAN?
@eat.a.dick.google
3 сағат бұрын
Any Ethernet interface can pass VLANs
@TheOneKEA
3 сағат бұрын
@@eat.a.dick.google Some (all?) versions of Windows require driver support to handle IEEE 802.1q tagging and untagging.
@Level2Jeff
Сағат бұрын
Haha when I read your comment (without noticing the @) I was like "wow, what a jerk!" Then I noticed it was a reply, lol.
@huberthans4312
51 минут бұрын
Support? In what way? Hardwaresupport > Im shure the answer is no. Software support: Clearly yes.' Realtek adapters are stupid and built to be cheap. Anything that can be done in software will be done in software. That is why these NICs wont understand the concept of Queues, RSS or anything in this regard. If you see Realtek: Dont expect anything to be done in Hardware. And dont expect good performance. IPERF is only capable of showing you the maximum throughput as a best case scenario. Real life performance WILL BE WORSE and riddled with packet loss.
@ChrisValin-w6o
Сағат бұрын
Clickbait
@altosack
3 сағат бұрын
Not burning your hand is good. While I’ve been a fan of Ethernet for decades (I made a VAXcluster between a uVAX with VMS 5.5 and an Alpha workstation with OpenVMS 6.1 in ‘94 over 10 Mbit!), I now prefer DAC for short distances and fiber for long. It’s _much_ cooler (and cheaper!) @ 10G!
@Level2Jeff
2 сағат бұрын
Definitely; no need for all the SFP, or crazy expensive RJ45-laden switches!
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