I was actually thinking about adding chen to my hero arsenal, and this really helps me a ton, thanks man.
@BigDigAbbdog
Жыл бұрын
Literally the best Chen guide on KZitem! Thanks for your hard work Jon!!! Long Live the Church of Obelis
@JonGunnarssonDotA
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@vintypatk2439
4 жыл бұрын
Subscribed, bro. You are the exact type of content creator i was lookin for.
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Fold!
@AqueousTide
4 жыл бұрын
MAY OBELUS GUIDES US !!! ThankYou Man for Guide and HardWork ! One of my Fav Channel to watch ! Recently started playing Chen and your Guides are only thing making me better at playing chen! Thanks You Again Much LoVe ❤️
@85877180
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro nice guide ! I think Chen newbie all meet hard at mid and late game, when opponents become strong. Your guide is good at keeping pets safely and choose good position in combat, and just take it easy to control units outside fight.
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, far too many Chen players, even among the pros, just keep sending in their creeps in the lategame only for them to die instantly without doing anything but feed the enemy some gold.
@claudiopereira5163
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Jon, only I wish you made it before, it took me so many games to properly use micro and so many more to change the strategy on late game, is so hard to keep the creeps alive and now even more with no aura stack. Keep posting
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Late game Chen is indeed challenging since it requires a very different playstyle compared to early game.
@paulocharbonneau3330
3 ай бұрын
I would like an updated video to see what your settings are currently like.
@ClashClans-gt1yg
4 жыл бұрын
Subscribed keep posting guides👍
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
As long as you keep watching
@zer0sy51
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro for this hard work ♥️🖤
@vegetablebirdgmail1493
Жыл бұрын
Wow very good and helpful. I have been searching for this type of detail for a Chen guide for a long time. Other video just didn’t have an enough or the equivalent details in explaining the options, most of the time just skips them, like smart attack and unified order. Thank you
@MannBilimoria
4 жыл бұрын
I started playing DotA post Ti9, around late August, Herald 4. I'm trying to get into micro heroes, already started playing beastmaster and lycan is unranked pubs ( still practicing ), i'm doing bots with meepo and chen. For long, i've struggled to get key bindings for the control groups without going too far from the left hand resting space of my keyboard. I've ended up using Alt + 1 to Alt + 5 and Alt + Q to Alt + T for ten control groups. Mostly designed it for Meepo; like Meepo 2 on alt + 1 and so on till alt + 4 which includes aghs and kept Alt + Q for all meepos except meepo 2 and so on in similar fashion. When porting to Chen; i kept all the creeps with active abilities used early game ( centaur/troll/golem/harpy/satyr) on the first row of Alt + 1 and all the aura creeps on Alt + q row. It sort of works but i still struggle to micro effectively on Chen. Should i change my control group layout? Also, how do you suggest i start playing Chen in pubs? Great video btw! Came here from reddit and gonna watch your series in the order posted on reddit. Thank you for making a guide for Chen especially for the new patch, helps mi poor herald
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
Always great to see new people joining the game, so welcome. If I understand you correctly, with your setup you press Alt+1, Alt+2, etc. to select a control group and then you need Ctrl+Alt+1, Ctrl+Alt+2, etc. to define a new group. If it works for you then it works, but I don't think that's ideal. You'll always need to press an extra button whenever you use a control group, which makes everything harder. By the way, I also have a video each on Beast and Lycan on my channel.
@MannBilimoria
4 жыл бұрын
@@JonGunnarssonDotA Thank you! I'll definitely check out the Lycan and BM vids. I kept the control groups like these specifically because i bound Space,Z,X,C,4,5 on items and 1 for main hero, 2 - all player controlled units and 3 - all non-player control units. And the F1-F6 are all bound to stuff like select courier; bring item; purchase quickbuy, glyph, buy tp scroll and such. Keeping these small small hotkeys really help a lot! So, the reason i actually went with Alt keys for control groups is because no other available keys ^^ and also that i mostly play supp, 4 or mainly 5. I've grown an obsession with warding xd. I use alt way too much for looking at icons on minimap; tower range, sentry range or just general item ranges and so. It felt pretty okayish to get control groups there and for chen, i specifically went in a bot game and got my most of the control groups bound leaving two for dynamic allocation in game, yes it gets a bit tedious but those predefined ones have been working well for me. Another question I had was how do you manage to ward as efficiently as Chen as a normal support would as a CM? Also, you seem to like playing micro heroes like me! I'm still learning most of em tho. I really think i should've typed such a long text in reddit instead xD but well it's here.
@ronweasley5347
4 жыл бұрын
Man your learning progress are greatter than mine when i was in your place.. Keep it up
@KidTrigger
4 жыл бұрын
Mann Bilimoria good luck most supports below divine only play like lion and pudge aw supports if you learn how to effectively play Chen since Chen is like never bad you will put support the enemy supports 90% of your games which will lead to fast ranking up good luck
@georgeshi5077
4 жыл бұрын
Just found ur channel, very cool, I only play visage in micro heroes but I’d be cool to learn Chen aswell :) R u Icelandic?
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
Hi! I'm actually just about to record a video on Visage. I'm half Icelandic, half German.
@MieczyslawPawelKolenda
8 ай бұрын
Who are you? I mean the cfg autocast command is very useful and in a way balanced: it will help new players learn Chen without griefing the game as much)))) I think at some piont you gonna get used to Tabing through units, but for the start this command will do!)) I actually forget to ward when I play Chne XD I get so busy with creeps, that I legit forget that I'm a support))))I think in the late game 4 Trolls is also valid: imagin spawning like 32 skeletons... They gonna eat towers alive... It is good in situation when your DMG hero is dead, so you can force either glyph or BB this way. Also Dispell creep is very good against some heroes: Earth Spirit, Elder Titan, against vessel or MoM heroes. I saw (I think it was Tundra vs OG match) Doom got Satyr creep to dispell Spiri Vessel and Sleight-Chains combo from Ember, rly rly strong!
@ZachisSublime
Жыл бұрын
Hey Jon. Do you find Chen is worth playing nowadays? Especially with the nerf to divine favor. I’m just wondering if getting really good at Chen is as useful as any other support
@AlCarloManuel
Жыл бұрын
how to put neutral creeps in demo?
@kirayoshikage6474
4 жыл бұрын
Control groups dont work for me? I press all my assisgned keys but it doesnt select anything
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
The way it works is you select some unit(s), press CTRL and one of the keys declared as a control group key in options (i.e. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6 with my setup). Then the next time you press that key you will select these units and by double tapping that key you will additionally center your screen on them.
@kirayoshikage6474
4 жыл бұрын
Jon Gunnarsson thanks a lot! And do you have any guide playing against an ench :( she steals my creeps
@andremeinberg2221
3 жыл бұрын
Ty
@mathiassstad2065
4 жыл бұрын
Yo, not working for illusions? Or Mabye baby meepos? :)
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
I guess that's the next frontier for this channel
@sherwinlewis8718
4 жыл бұрын
how do u have 5 creeps, but the in-game tooltip allows for only 4 creeps..
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
4 regular creeps, one from Helm of the Dominator.
@sherwinlewis8718
4 жыл бұрын
oooof i didnt notice..thanks
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
@@sherwinlewis8718 Haha, I know the feeling. Sometimes you just overlook obvious things.
@LivinProoof
4 жыл бұрын
Okay I see that you set up control groups on your creeps but how do I spawn creeps in demo hero what are the commands? Help please I'm having hard time setting up my control groups with the creeps in demo lobby
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
It's quite strange; no one asked about this for months and months, and now you're the third person who asked me this in a week. Anyway, here you go: Type in "-createhero NAME" where NAME is the internal name of the unit (or a partial string long enough to identify the unit). For example the internal name for the Centaurs Conqueror is "npc_dota_neutral_centaur_khan", so you can create one by typing in "-createhero npc_dota_neutral_centaur_khan" or by for example typing in "-createhero centaur_k". This will create an allied centaur. If you want a neutral or enemy centaur, add "neutral" or "enemy" at the end. You can find all the unit names here: dota2.gamepedia.com/Cheats#Unit_names_2
@Xydorf
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't get this autoexec.cfg thing to work. The text is exactly like it said in the post, it is located where you said, but it still does not work.
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
Does the file have the proper .cfg extension? Apparently for some people it's also necessary to add "+exec autoexec" to DotA 2's launch option (you can access those by going to your Steam Library -> right click on Dota 2 -> Properties -> Set Launch Options).
@Xydorf
3 жыл бұрын
@@JonGunnarssonDotA Now I have made sure that it is a cfg file, and I have added "+exec autoexec" where you said. It sitll doesnt work... i am so confused...
@JussaPeakBruh
4 жыл бұрын
How to play Chen: Dont
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
:( Chen is actually pretty good right now.
@dextercapalos1900
3 жыл бұрын
can someone tell me how to create an creeps on demo?
@JonGunnarssonDotA
3 жыл бұрын
I just made a video answering exactly that question: kzitem.info/news/bejne/lIWh3oeqZqipd6A
@dextercapalos1900
3 жыл бұрын
@@JonGunnarssonDotA I didn't get this autoexec.cfg thing to work. The text is exactly like it said in the post, it is located where you said, but it still does not work.
@gendalfgray7889
3 жыл бұрын
multiunit cast still works in 7.29?
@JonGunnarssonDotA
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, still works for me
@codecody1837
4 жыл бұрын
How u spawn that creep on demo?
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
By using cheats. Type in "-createhero NAME" where name is the internal name of the unit (or a partial string long enough to identify the unit. For example the internal name for the Centaurs Conqueror is "npc_dota_neutral_centaur_khan", so you can create one by typing in "-createhero npc_dota_neutral_centaur_khan" or by for example typing in "-createhero centaur_k". This will create an allied centaur. If you want a neutral or enemy centaur, add "neutral" or "enemy" at the end. You can find all the unit names here: dota2.gamepedia.com/Cheats#Unit_names_2
@robertodagher4984
4 жыл бұрын
How do you put creeps in demo hero
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
By using cheats. Type in "-createhero NAME" where name is the internal name of the unit (or a partial string long enough to identify the unit. For example the internal name for the Centaurs Conqueror is "npc_dota_neutral_centaur_khan", so you can create one by typing in "-createhero npc_dota_neutral_centaur_khan" or by for example typing in "-createhero centaur_k". This will create an allied centaur. If you want a neutral or enemy centaur, add "neutral" or "enemy" at the end. You can find all the unit names here: dota2.gamepedia.com/Cheats#Unit_names_2
@robertodagher4984
4 жыл бұрын
Jon Gunnarsson thanks and really good guide by the way
@meleecraft
4 жыл бұрын
First!
@napolinguyen6395
4 жыл бұрын
How do you spawn those jungle creeps in demo mode?
@JonGunnarssonDotA
4 жыл бұрын
Type in "-createhero NAME" where NAME is the internal name of the unit (or a partial string long enough to identify the unit). For example the internal name for the Centaurs Conqueror is "npc_dota_neutral_centaur_khan", so you can create one by typing in "-createhero npc_dota_neutral_centaur_khan" or by for example typing in "-createhero centaur_k". This will create an allied centaur. If you want a neutral or enemy centaur, add "neutral" or "enemy" at the end. You can find all the unit names here: dota2.gamepedia.com/Cheats#Unit_names_2
@v2ga2ge
Жыл бұрын
Hello! I have a problem with installing the multi cast setting after i changed my old HDD to an SSD. I am doing everything exactly as you show in the video, also i have no problems when using old HDD, so there probably either is a problem with software or with the fact i swtiched to windows 11. Do you have any suggestions? The only strange thing i noticed is that the type of .cfg file appears as .txt under attributes in the file's description.
@neilpatrickgonzales5899
2 жыл бұрын
Jon, i dont think my command is working :/ dota_player_smart_multiunit_cast 1;
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