My understanding is that they finally figured out how to mitigate the long start issue for the LM2 without needing to replace the CPS exciter wheel. Basically, the issue was that the ECU just gave up if it got a single invalid CPS reading during the startup interval (which was short). My layman's understanding of the fix was to add a few extra rotations to the startup interval and sample more than once. That apparently has fixed it permanently for nearly all situations where the wheel was the problem. (The underlying supplier issue was fixed for LZ0.)
@cjwright1960
Жыл бұрын
Ecu flash fixed mine, it pauses the start procedure for about .5 seconds to allow multiple sensor pulses for the start sequence. Never had the problem since.
@TheGettyAdventures
Жыл бұрын
Good to know! I guess my info is old. I'll pin this comment so other can see!
@foch3
Жыл бұрын
@@cjwright1960 It pauses the start process lol how convient.
@cjwright1960
Жыл бұрын
@@foch3 yeah an unflashed ecu will start cranking immediately and engine star happens very quickly when you press start, a flashed ecu will have about a half second delay before it starts cranking, and the cranking cycle will last about a half second longer.
@Pickuptrucktalk
Жыл бұрын
The engineer details those changes here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/q22Bs2ljqH99oG0
@coryw.9086
Жыл бұрын
Put 56,000 miles on my first with only the long crank issue. Amazing engine. I’d typically see 29-31 MPG in highway driving. I just bought a 22 and currently have a order in for a Yukon to replace my wife’s Expedition.
@sugarskulllyfe5890
Жыл бұрын
i want one the mpg is insane!!! love it
@jay2039
11 ай бұрын
Y’all got more disposable income than I. I’ll just continue driving my golf.
@peltel2222
Жыл бұрын
I bought 2 of them. One in an Escalade and another in a GMC Denali. I love the 3.0 Duramax. I have had zero issues. Best fuel mpg to power ratio I have ever owned. I love the low end grunt too. Awesome job GM!!!
@TheGettyAdventures
Жыл бұрын
Happy you are liking the engine!
@RB-xv4si
Жыл бұрын
What is a GMC Denali? That’s a trim level, not a model.
@Allenfreedom1776
Жыл бұрын
@@RB-xv4si Sierra. Why would he buy two of (basically) the same vehicle.
@peltel2222
Жыл бұрын
@@RB-xv4si GMC Sierra Denali
@davidweigel2238
Жыл бұрын
@@RB-xv4si I get it…
@tonychristensen8906
Жыл бұрын
Best way to start a review "I've never driven one, but I will tell you what I think "
@andp120
Жыл бұрын
Belt is not a problem. He has no idea what he's talking about
@isaicalderon1410
Жыл бұрын
😂
@phillyphil1513
Жыл бұрын
LMAO...
@michaelhawk8230
Жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%,his opinion meh!
@andp120
Жыл бұрын
Lol🤣👍
@caseyl3631
8 ай бұрын
Is it weird that he did the whole talk standing in front of a Dodge?
@TheSwamppilot
Жыл бұрын
My 2022 3.0 has 15k on it. So far, I love it. The 10 speed transmission is extremely smooth, and the engine has great power for a 1/2 ton.
@torygustin591
Жыл бұрын
I have owned my RST 3.0 Duramax for a year now and I love it. Great fuel economy and plenty of power. Paired with the new 10 speed automatic transmission, it always seems to be in the proper gear. If you do not expect it to be something its not, you will be very happy with this engine. Very happy with GM's offering with this engine/transmission combo.
@peltel2222
Жыл бұрын
Exactly my impression as well. I think it’s the best combo GM has out right now. Who doesn’t live 30 Mpg + and that low end grunt! I love it in my Escalade ESV and my Denali Sierra.
@TakeDeadAim
Жыл бұрын
I've got a 2020 AT4 with the "Mini Max". I've put 57k hard miles on it without issue including living in NE Wisconsin where it sees a legit winter and hauling a 2k lb truck camper all over out west during 100deg heat up and down mountains. Great engine and great MPG. Very smooth power and hauls with relative ease.
@georgiafan6618
Жыл бұрын
Good to hear. GM updated the 3.0 and addressed some issues. GM is lone arbiter of a small diesel. Ford and Ram backed out. Why go hybrid when you can have a diesel? They’ll sell every one they make.
@memoogas3235
Жыл бұрын
Cool too hear some thanks for the info just purchase one 👍
@KPHVAC
Жыл бұрын
What kind of MPG do you usually get when empty?
@karlschauff7989
2 ай бұрын
@@georgiafan6618 I spoke to a guy that works at the plant in Michigan that's building the 3.0. He said they're building about 550 engines per day running 2 shifts if I remember right. They must be popular, one big volume truck dealer I stopped at was big on keeping them in stock. They're trying to maintain 30% diesel in the half-ton mix.
@georgiafan6618
2 ай бұрын
@@karlschauff7989 In had an ‘02 Duramax 6.6L w/300hp and 520 torque. The revised ‘25 3.0L has 305hp and 495 torque. They managed to almost meet the specs of a much larger diesel in less than half displacement. Tech has caught up! The minimax seems to be trouble free and robust.
@rejeanstuart2951
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 Chevy 1500 RST with the 3.0. Towing on the east coast with a 5500 lb rv 17.0 mpg. Driving around town/hwy 28-31. A full tank of fuel has a 700 mile range. My old truck a 2010 GMC Sierra 5.3, 17mpg was the around town and towing the same rv 9 mpg. Its quiet, rides really smooth. No problems even in cold weather. GM just extended the oil pump belt to 200,000 miles, and who knows in the 15 years it takes for me to put 200,000 miles they might bump it up to 250.000. Great engine and transmission(10 speed).
@mattfoster2765
Жыл бұрын
Currently have about 45k on my 20 LM2 been driving almost 3 years. Haven't had a single issue. I leave it in 2WD except when the weather demands more and I average 28mpg with a mix of city and highway driving. On road trips I have seen as high as 36mpg! All in all I have been very happy with it and hope to drive it through the half million mile mark before it needs replaced.
@charleslynch908
Жыл бұрын
Why are you standing in front of a ram talking about Chevys. I was waiting for you to say something and then vanna white the dodge
@JohnSmith-ev1sm
Жыл бұрын
The oil belt is not an issue, because you just replace it (you don't pay to inspect it at 150K and then put the old one back on). If it fails, GM chief engineer says it just limps you to side of the road, nothing serious/catastrophic. And the new update coming is longer belt interval, and almost 500 lb/ft of torque!
@TheGettyAdventures
Жыл бұрын
I guess that would make sense but still little annoying.
@PygmySurfer
Жыл бұрын
They’ve extended it to 200k miles now, too.
@jasonfalk7696
Жыл бұрын
It's still expensive as hell! You have to pull the transmission to replace it.
@JohnSmith-ev1sm
Жыл бұрын
@@jasonfalk7696 It'll be like a $1500 job at any competent shop. That's peanuts for an engine that can probably run 500,000+ miles with otherwise regular maintenance, stunning performance, and the best MPG you'll find in a half ton even at todays manufactured diesel pricing crisis..
@David-yy7lb
Жыл бұрын
@@PygmySurfer how, by waving GM's magic wand
@27dmarshall
Жыл бұрын
Ford 3.5L EcoBoost = 20mpg average. 400hp / 500 lb-ft GM diesel = 27mpg 277hp / 460 lb-ft +35% better mpg for diesel. BUT: 87 octane = $2.84/gallon Diesel = $4.59/gallon +61.6% MORE in my area. Emission hardware reliability and cost has killed the diesel advantage.
@rdallas81
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for those facts. The Ford is such a good product. The engines are built like a diesel. Heavy duty gas engines those ecoboosts are! I have an old Ford f150.v6 and a Dodge Hemi.1500 Laramie AWD. Both are 2004 Models and Both have 300,000 miles on them. Both serve their purposes perfectly.
@frenchonion4595
3 ай бұрын
Yep the price of diesel kills the better mpg advantage plus more likely hood of problems from emissions equipment
@mickroam9991
Жыл бұрын
Did it bother anyone else that this video was about GM trucks but there's a Ram by him the entire video?🤣
@andp120
Жыл бұрын
He has no idea what he's talking about. He never even saw one of this engines
@melikestuff8389
Жыл бұрын
I have a 21, I do like the truck and it has good power and gets great MPGs. I get an average of 24 for my daily stuff and low 30's on the highway. It is very comfortable to drive and easy to get around in. However, I did get a check engine light as a result of a bad injector at just over 13K miles. All the injectors were replaced, which tells me that there may be an issue with them. But there was a consistent check engine light as soon as I would leave the shop and return it. The short of it is, they ended up replacing BOTH EGR valves and the exhaust brake. It was in the shop for 3 months because they had trouble understanding the issue. If I had to buy it again I probably wouldn't. One; Ive had it in for other warranty issues and it has to go back again. So I'm not impressed with the quality. Two; the longterm maintenance issues that was in the video gives me some concern. Three; it's always seems to be the emissions that ruin theses great diesel engines. If I can get it legally removed I may but at what cost?
@MrEdsPirit
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully you're just talking out of the passed issues and from other egines,, as of now all we need to do is wait so it talks by itself and not make allegations or assumptions that are not even there...
@andp120
Жыл бұрын
He has no idea what he's talking about. He never even saw one of this engines
@jayboshuis3791
Жыл бұрын
Excuse me!! You're going to give an opinion on something you've never seen, heard, smelled, driven? Go home and come back when you know something. And why are you standing in front of a Ram?
@JohnSmith-ev1sm
Жыл бұрын
Also, GM has fixed the long crank issue, Tim Esterhdol from "Pickup Truck + Suv Talk" YT channel has done some videos on that, talking to the GM engineer.
@TheGettyAdventures
Жыл бұрын
Fair enough! I'll have to have a listen. thank you for the info
@BearPapa49
Жыл бұрын
I saw that interview too . They’ve fixed that problem.
@fxnytroxtxFPP
Жыл бұрын
The updated version of the 3.0 duramax has lots of good revised parts and updates, such as steel pistons thicker sleeves 200k oil bet interval a healthy bump in hp and torture and much more 👍
@mudslutmusic9052
Жыл бұрын
I have a 23 LZ0 and it’s a beast
@v8chevy788
Жыл бұрын
Great video covering the 3.0 Duramax. I absolutely love my 2021 LM2. I currently have 25,000 miles on it and it has been great except I have experienced the long crank/no start issue a handful of times, but it has always started on the 2nd try and I'm hesitant to take it to a deal until I'm convinced that the ECU reflash truly fixes things. I was so happy to learn that they went with the inline 6 configuration when they 1st introduced this engine. I still think Cummins is the top diesel engine offered in a pickup truck and I likely would have picked up a RAM 1500 diesel had their engine actually been a scaled down version of the 6.7 Cummins. I think that would have been a grand slam and caused many Ford and GM loyalists to jump ship at least if they were true diesel enthusiasts, but RAM missed the boat by going the route that they did with their diesel. With that said, I've heard some good feedback regarding the RAM ecodiesel, but who wouldn't want a mini Cummins sitting between the fenders of a 1500. Since I can't have a mini Cummins, the 3.0 Duramax is my next best option as there's just something special about the grunt and music an inline 6 turbo diesel makes and the balanced smoothness is amazing. Also, I just wanted to point out that Isuzu has no involvement with the 3.0 Duramax like they did with the V8 Duramax. GM and Opel worked on the 3.0 development per the GM engineer.
@guidoochoa2038
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to break your heart but the Cummings is going to be discontinued
@v8chevy788
Жыл бұрын
@@guidoochoa2038 Thanks but not a problem for me as I have no intentions of purchasing a new Cummins powered 2500/3500 RAM as I just don't need that much truck.
@leadnsteel1428
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I wish the ram had a 3.0 inline 6
@kevinmoore8679
Жыл бұрын
I had no start crank issue right off the lot it’s embarrassing sometimes 21 duramax
@marcbenedict3676
Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering why they're collaborating with other companies when designing the Duramax, do they not have enough talent here in the states?
@nick-cb6dl
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 Silverado with the LM2, I love it, paired with the 10 speed transmission it’s a good setup. I’m not concerned about the oil belt, if it needs changed at 150,000 miles I’ll do it. I wish there was a delete for this.
@peltel2222
Жыл бұрын
LSI out of California is making a retrofit chain conversion for the LM2 / LZ0 3.0 Liter. The problem is that chain stretch and noise can be a problem. The belt from a design point is the best solution. Less centrifugal weight, and something about chatter and speed control issues were the biggest concerns. Forget that! The belt mandated inspection/replacement has already been bumped all the way up to 200k miles for the 23’ model years on up. I’ve herd the belt is supposed to be good all the way up to 250k miles at a minimum based on manufacturer tests. GM simply set 150k as their own inspection interval. Maybe they should come out and make clear what the belt manufacturer says the real truth is. Has anyone had a belt fail yet? The motor has been out since 2019. On another popular website this question was asked. No one has first hand seen or herd of a belt failure. Bottom line, the oil belt issue is a NON-issue. Period! It’s going to be the least of your concerns as an owner.
@hahaadventures4838
Жыл бұрын
Best damn powertrain in a 1/2 ton truck by miles!!!! I own a 2022 and this thing tows my RV better than my 2019 6.4 Hemi Ram 2500! I get 26mpgs city and 30mpgs highway. Towing my RV I get 14mpgs! Maintenance and oil changes are less $$ too! The oil belt is now rated for 200k miles which 90% of us owners will never even touch!
@TheGettyAdventures
Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear you like the truck and the Duramax!
@hahaadventures4838
Жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures yeah I have several trucks (Ram 2500, F150, Ram 1500) but love my 3.0 the best! The torque and acceleration it has for the economy is astounding!
@donbarnes6426
Жыл бұрын
Why are we standing around a Cummins Ram talking about a Duramax?
@theodorgiosan2570
Жыл бұрын
The transmission doesn't actually have to be removed to inspect the oil pump belt. Drain oil and insert a borescope through the drain plug hole. It's right at the back of the engine directly below the oil pump belt. Engine can be rotated by hand to inspect the whole belt.
@nickbrooks3253
9 ай бұрын
The belt is on the other side of a divider on the lower crankcase extension. It's physically impossible to see the belt even if you take the lower oil pan completely off.
@jonathanparrish1662
Жыл бұрын
I picked up my 2023 with the Duramax last week. I have the max trailering package, which gives you a 13,000 max tow rating. I think it is a very impressive truck. I also have a diesel Range Rover, which I plan to sell next year. I believe the fuel mileage is similar, despite the fact that the truck is a lot heavier and more powerful.
@BearPapa49
Жыл бұрын
What’s the most you’ve towed with your truck and does it drop a lot when you hook up to a heavy load ? I’m in the market for a Chev 1500 LZO max towing package myself !
@clubtc05
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video! Enjoyed your video and learned a lot man. I just bought my first diesel which is the 23 AT4 with the new LZ0, so far so good...The torque is amazing! . I have about 500 miles on it so far so good. I came from a 17 Tundra 4.6L, I just hope this engine/ truck is reliable for the long run, since I've owned only Honda and Toyota in the past.
@rjsangha
Жыл бұрын
I picked up a 2023 AT4 LZ0 Diesel, too. Let's keep in touch for future experiences. Enjoy your truck!
@clubtc05
Жыл бұрын
@@rjsangha For sure man! I just hit 1,500 miles on mine so far so good.
@rjsangha
Жыл бұрын
@clubtc05 what kind mpg have you been getting if don't mind asking ?
@clubtc05
Жыл бұрын
@@rjsangha around 19-20 in city and around 27-29 on hwy.. you ?
@rjsangha
Жыл бұрын
@clubtc05 so i only got 150 miles , I been getting 23-24 combined , still have to take a long trip to get a freeway mpg. But I am impressed, coming from ram 5.7 hemi I was only getting 13-14 mpg with 3inch lift.
@MrDannyZ123
Жыл бұрын
Does anyone think it's strange he's talking about a GM but standing in front of a Dodge. Probably just reading info off a forum.
@andp120
Жыл бұрын
He has no idea what he's talking about. He never even saw one of this engines
@AlaskaErik
Жыл бұрын
A couple of points...the Gen 2 3.0 Duramax will have 305 HP and 495 FT LBS of torque. It should be available in a few months. Also, unlike the Eco Diesel and the Powerstroke, this engine was designed from the ground up for the Silverado/Sierra 1500.
@Toymonkeyjr
Жыл бұрын
and tahoe
@thesixgunfighter288
Жыл бұрын
@@ToymonkeyjrTahoe/Suburban are simply the SUVs based on the Silverado/Sierra platform
@Toymonkeyjr
Жыл бұрын
@@thesixgunfighter288 so I'm not wrong lol
@thesixgunfighter288
Жыл бұрын
@@Toymonkeyjr No, I’m just being more elaborate lol. Nothing personal meant. I’m very technical sometimes.
@tonytumminia5256
Жыл бұрын
I have the gen 1 3.0 2021 it’s been a work horse 7500mi oil changes I burn 1 qt of oil that’s always been my modow only issue I’ve had is pickup pump in the tank just gave out at 47k mi gm is warranting this 5 min after I got it to em other than that the truck is great
@Lefishn
Жыл бұрын
Seening as this video is not even a year old and they didnt still make the LM2 motor atvstart of video and now use upgraded LM0 motor with 29 more Hp and more Torque tgis video is redundant. But yes best 1/2ton motor ever
@robertmcaleney7169
Жыл бұрын
Why do a pod cast for Chet with a dodge in the pic.
@jrski6647
Жыл бұрын
Long crank no start is a software update
@moosejuice6476
Жыл бұрын
Yes, just a reprogramming seem to fix the long crank issue
@Tallnerdyguy
4 күн бұрын
They did fix the no start condition and the belt is warrantied to 200k miles. 1k for 200k miles isnt a big deal
@jay9534
Жыл бұрын
I'm a Mopar guy and love the Ram Cummins. But I think its really cool that Chevy decided to make an inline-6 engine...
@treetopace
Жыл бұрын
History shows how good the inlines are. My old Ford with the 300 c.i and jeep 4.0L had very few issues overall as long as maintenance and cooling issues were addressed quickly. Im sold that mine will stay just as smooth, torquey and dependable, but what I struggle with is all the emissions crap they're forced to put on these new engines. I bought my 2020 LT 4x4 with the 3.0L and 10 speed in Oct. Of 2020 and now has 34k and I'm consistently getting 30+ mpg unless I go over 70mph and tows extremely well and fuel goes to about 17.5mpg fully loaded, but sucks the pee juice way too fast in my opinion. I keep hearing people say they only get 27mph and I'm not sure if it's that I don't have a low gear transfer case or perhaps different gearing or if we just drive different.
@kona6451
Жыл бұрын
@@treetopace Yes, and BMW's make silky smooth inline 6's
@robgrune3284
Жыл бұрын
US brands love the EGR. With EGR, mucho repair costs and rapid wear, so early replacement: good for business. Criminals. Cummins has a new Type 5 diesel engine, since 2016, sold in Europe; NO EGR, more power, longer service interval and life.
@shaneauser350
Жыл бұрын
So you don’t have or have driven one but are doing a review on one. Seems kinda odd too me…..
@Encourageable
Жыл бұрын
Reviewing it from a mechanics perspective
@dangallagher3220
Жыл бұрын
I crossed 52k in early October, more than half of that while towing our trailer. Had a DEF level issue (gauge inaccurate) issue that took almost 2 years for GM to finally address. But 5 Service visits and 30+ days out of service since October 8 - EGR Cooler, Valve, Pressure Sensor… Then Glow Plugs, now a Chaffed wire issue on the EGR Pressure sensor leg of the harness. My biggest issue isn’t the problems we had, but rather dealing with GM to get the problems addressed.
@jamesclark7630
10 ай бұрын
What was the resolution for the DEF gauge? Mine is brand new and the gauge shows 40%.
@dangallagher3220
10 ай бұрын
@@jamesclark7630 - Gauge is accurate when not trailering. It doesn't sample correctly, and can't predict range for anything with a trailer. I'm at 75k now and have learned to accept it. 40% means they didn't give you the truck with a full tank of DEF... Also - it's a 7 gallon tank (appx) but will show empty with 2 gallons (appx) left.
@eulisessilva4998
8 ай бұрын
Lemon low
@35RSkyline
Жыл бұрын
Hell inline 6 engines gas or diesel are bad ass. Love i6 engines!
@andp120
Жыл бұрын
Oil pump fail will not be catastrophic!!! Just pull off to the side of the road tow it to shop and get it replaced if happend. (3hr job) Plus there wasn't a single case of one failing. Stop scarring people with the whole belt thing. GM now say 200k miles maintenance item for belt and it's not that hard to do.
@mjareacts2731
Жыл бұрын
There is a new version of the 3.0 Duramax diesel, it's actually more powerful than this particular engine. I would actually suggest doing a part two to this video when you get the opportunity to check it out.
@westeed1
Жыл бұрын
Does it utilize the Bosch cp4 fuel pump? If it does… it’s garbage. Anything that utilizes that piece of garbage is due for a 15-20k repair at some point. Trash…
@brianw8010
Жыл бұрын
Why would I inspect a belt for the same price as replacing it? I’ll wait till it fails. Day off from work. But I dare say that even at 150k I won’t have to replace this part.
@stevencarter3290
Жыл бұрын
I have absolutely no complaints with my LM2. I have had 2 with no issues although low miles on the first one. In regards to the EGR "issues" that typically plague modern diesels... these trucks actually pull exhaust gas from after the DPF for the main EGR supply. So HOPEFULLY these engines wont have to deal with all the damn carbon buildup like every other diesel.
@jeladsnikpoh1289
Жыл бұрын
Paused.... did they just say "The most reliable diesel GM has ever made!?" Yeah right! That stupid broad running GM is lying again! Look at all the emissions crap, complexities, 'unique' experiments of this design that can't be serviced or repaired, and compare that to the LBZ 6.6. I've personally seen dozens of them with over 750k RV-hauling miles, as I owned a business that serviced RV hot-shot trucks. The Duramax LB7 was also a great engine, pardoning the injector design. All the pre-emissions Duramaxes were amazing especially for the time. Maybe a slight design flaw here or there, but nothing like diesels today. Sure miss my Hopped-up LB7
@georgiafan6618
Жыл бұрын
The EGR delete is the first change I’d make to my diesel. There are KZitem channels such as @darkirondiesel and others who demonstrate a step by step process to complete a delete and other mpg/power robbing stock parts. This was a helpful video - thanks! 👍
@glennschlorf1285
Жыл бұрын
You do know that most dealers will refuse to work on one that has EGR deleted
@waterloo123100
Жыл бұрын
@@glennschlorf1285 Not here in the midwest they just refuse to warranty it.
@glennschlorf1285
Жыл бұрын
@@waterloo123100 well here in the southeast they will just tell you to take a hike and refuse to work on your illegal non compliant vehicle and in some states will just suspend your plates and fine you for non compliance
@waterloo123100
Жыл бұрын
@@glennschlorf1285 That sucks for you dude. We don’t follow what the government tells us to do here
@wizard_of_poz4413
Жыл бұрын
Tbh I'm not super happy about deleting my 6.7 and I wouldn't recommend
@mitchellcline3551
Жыл бұрын
my guy ypu didnt even pop the hood and show us the engine....
@andp120
Жыл бұрын
He has no idea what he's talking about. He never even saw one of this engines
@markkuhar1188
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 RST 3.0 baby Duramax I have 46,234 miles and not a single issuie
@wasupfool5692
Жыл бұрын
We will have to wait until there are tons of them out there with 200,000 miles before we can say I they're any good or not. People commenting 15k and 25k with no issues must have really low expectations lol
@bassinwithbrock9912
Жыл бұрын
I own a 2022 Chevy with the 3.0L. At 6,000 miles the truck did not re gen for about 2 weeks and I got a alert that said service emissions system and the check engine light came on. the truck never went in to limp mode but after I called the dealership I woke up and cranked it and it re gened immediately and the check engine light went off. That has been my only issue. It’s got 23,000 on the truck now and I love the mpg I get. The best I’ve gotten was 35 on the highway and around town I get 22-27.
@Swankyestbrute
Жыл бұрын
Why dose this sound like a formula 1 engine. Dude thay seriously built a race engine and put it in an economy truck wish i coul afford one
@cope4288
Жыл бұрын
What a crock. Dude, you’re making stuff up or hooped on Google just to knock the engine.
@jasons5842
Жыл бұрын
Ram just needs to go with a Cummins 4BT in their 1500 lineup.
@jaceski5806
Жыл бұрын
Why are you doing this video with a dodge in the background? WTF?
@tdurmon
Жыл бұрын
I own a 2022 GMC Sierra with a 3.0L Duramax/LM2 engine. I put a lot of miles on my truck, as I drive it for work. I’ve had it about 8-1/2 months and already have just over 18k miles on it. I LOVE this engine! (I love the truck!) I suppose you wouldn’t expect to have had any trouble with an engine after only 18k miles. Still, it’s an impressive little diesel. I came from a 5.7L Hemi in a Ram 1500 and was getting 15-17 mpg. The Hemi had a lot of pep and I put a lot of miles on that truck, as well. It was a dependable engine but the fuel mileage sucked! I’m now getting an average of 25 mpg with mixed highway/city driving. That equates to 600 miles out of my 24 gallon tank. I was getting just over 300 miles out of the Ram’s 24 gallon tank. Amazing difference! On the highway I get anywhere between 28-31 mpg, real world. And this Duramax has plenty of pep. It’s the one thing I thought I’d miss from the Ram but I haven’t been disappointed at all. It has loads of torque and pulls much better than the Ram 1500 did. So far, I can’t say enough about this engine!
@jdarylhamilton2662
Жыл бұрын
It's probably 1000 times better than that pos eco diesel that ram is discontinuing 🤣
@brucemose4079
Жыл бұрын
Why r u reviewing GM products in front of a Ram? Just saying...
@bumsmodified98xj
Жыл бұрын
I was told by my mechanic that modern diesel engines EGR valve every single time it opens to "recirculate exhaust gases" it's like grabbing a hand full of very fine sand and tossing it inside the intake
@austenalgaier1122
Жыл бұрын
No. I don’t like emissions stuff since it’s idiotic to longevity and economy but… no egrs; aren’t like throwing sand in the intake.
@bumsmodified98xj
Жыл бұрын
@@austenalgaier1122 I can prove you wrong EGR recirculates exhaust gases Diesel soot is abrasive Do you want me to keep going? Meaning your wrong
@nashdavis4607
Жыл бұрын
I am also a heavy duty diesel mechanic and I bought the new lzo duramax and the reason I bought it was because it was an in-line 6 and DOHC and talking about the rear gear train the MX-13 paccar engine is a rear gear train and after rebuilding a few paccar engines I have never had to replace parts with the gear train and most of the ones I’ve rebuilt have had a little over 1 million miles
@johnbissell6251
Жыл бұрын
LM2 is a good engine but too complex for a diesel. It has multiple coolant valves & sensors, which can fail on top of the emmisions system, which can fail & limit mobility. The weak point in 1/2 ton GM, as well as, Ford 1/2 ton trucks is the garbage Ford-GM 10-speed transmission. Currently diesel costs @ 30% more than gasoline & 3.0L diesel engines are @ 30% more fuel efficient. So fuel costs are about the same. Diesels also have higher maintenance costs & require DEF.
@kitchensink7345
Жыл бұрын
A Service costs me around 25% more for oil and filter. 8000km for gas vs 12000 for 3.0 so ends up being equal or same. Fuel filter is 40$ and takes 20 min to replace in driveway
@tylerhanisch2480
Жыл бұрын
Would like to hear your thoughts on the updates with the 2023 models and LZ0. A test drive would be crisp 👌
@TheGettyAdventures
Жыл бұрын
I have no dug into the new engine yet for 2023 but it is certainly something I'm looking forward to doing!
@adampetten1009
Жыл бұрын
Same engine really, 90% of people won't even know the difference
@BearPapa49
Жыл бұрын
Pretty much the same engine with like I hear 25% upgrades to it . Mainly the piston head design and metal used .
@dannysmith713
Жыл бұрын
Your getting a case of Scotty Kilmer hands. Better get that looked at.
@gelasaucoin3228
Жыл бұрын
it does not seem right to advertise chev trucks engines with a Dodge truck in the back
@chaseshurtleff3699
Жыл бұрын
Why are you standing infront of a ram talking about a chevy?
@VitosFix
Жыл бұрын
Well, this makes me not want the 3.0L. Sometimes ignorance is bliss😂
@jaceski5806
Жыл бұрын
4 mins in cant even watch this anymore. Find the truck you are talking about to put in the background!
@andp120
Жыл бұрын
He has no idea what he's talking about. He never even saw one of this engines
@mrvwbug4423
Жыл бұрын
I do wonder if Izuzu was intending to replace their 5.2L 4 cylinder diesel with this, if the gear train is on the back for cabover use. I know why the modern Detroits have the gear train on the back, they're Mercedes engines from Germany, and the Mercedes trucks are of course cab over as is the norm for Europe. I assume the PACCAR MX13 and Volvo engines are the same as they also are primarily European market engines.
@tylermartin2631
Жыл бұрын
I’m not saying the engine is bad. But come on man oil pump belt..must be a reason for it all i don’t know I’m not an engineer
@andp120
Жыл бұрын
He has no idea what he's talking about. He never even saw one of this engines
@Rzr1000turbo
Жыл бұрын
Damn Man U r really late to the party. Do some research on the LZ0
@westeed1
Жыл бұрын
Why r u talking about a Chevy with a ram behind you?
@luvslogistics1725
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a Toyota guy for a long time because GM and Ford broke my heart with their lack of pride and unreliable products. I hope obviously that they fix this, go for broke and make the best trucks, and I will return, happily. I’m voting with my dollars, to force improvement.
@danielrochette8231
Жыл бұрын
any reason you talking about GM but have a dodge behind
@tjjoneswinks
Жыл бұрын
Working in a gm service dept, these trucks, cooling system is the number 1 issues, miles of rubber hoses and plastic quick connectors = frequent leaks. Exhaust rattles and leaks. Nox sensors and egt sensor failures, only done 1 rear main seal so far. Lots of backorder parts = massive down time....
@isaicalderon1410
Жыл бұрын
That’s what you get when unions run management..
@venkust
Жыл бұрын
this is old news. you need to video on the 2023 LM0 Diesel
@thecaptain3773
Жыл бұрын
The chain in the back of the engine for the oil pump which needs to changed at 100k is a no go for me, I learned my lesson with a 4.0 Ford V6 with rear chains.
@TheGettyAdventures
Жыл бұрын
fair enough!
@MixedGrid
Жыл бұрын
I guess I'm interested where you heard the fuel pump requires replacement at 100k miles. I've never seen it in my manual nor heard of it.
@andp120
Жыл бұрын
Belt is not a problem. He has no idea what he's talking about
@chrishall2458
Жыл бұрын
So weird talking about a Chevy in-front of a Ram. No offense but that was confusing. Especially when you pointed to the Ram truck while describing the Chevy engine. 🤷🏼♂️
@Allegronaut
Жыл бұрын
Putting the cart before the horse, you should drive it first. It has excellent power & fuel economy.
@andp120
Жыл бұрын
He has no idea what he's talking about. He never even saw one of this engines
@chrisgarcia9711
Жыл бұрын
I love my 3.0l 2022 suburban. I changed out my oil to the amsoil (dexos D approved/won’t void warranty and it’s 100% full synthetic). Other oils such as Mobil 1 (also dexos D approved says it’s full synthetic but it’s only 25% synthetic) I also added the PPE oil filter (larger capacity(SKU#: PPE-114000650) and average 35 MPG highway. As for the belt I think it’s a little crappy but not a deal breaker for 150k mile intervals Hope this helps anyone
@donaldmarshall9684
Жыл бұрын
Great video I have one 37000 Km’s on it one DEF sensor replaced 20 min job. Also the engine is an Opel designed diesel not Isuzu.
@TheGettyAdventures
Жыл бұрын
Fair enough! I wasn't sure but either way I had a feeling that's why the gear train was at the back!
@frankrakich102
Жыл бұрын
If this engine has all these problems why in the hell would anybody want to buy one have to remove the cab to get to the back of the motor to adjust the gears it's crazy there's no way I want one they can keep the pile of junk they probably want $100,000 for it it's not worth it
@ApeGorrillo
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say there are no issues with the emissions systems. My buddy got a brand new Sierra with the 3.0 Duramax and had the DEF heater go out after only a month causing it to go into limp mode. GM apparently didn't make the connector water tight so it got water in it and shorted out.
@TheGettyAdventures
Жыл бұрын
Nope fair enough! I guess what I was trying to say is there is no consistent issues. yes thing will fail and and fail more often but it seems likes the emission issues are at a minimum. which is nice to see!
@AmazonWebService98
Жыл бұрын
Sontht is a human error ???
@tajlis
Жыл бұрын
Hypereutectic is not new tech. Its been use by other manufacturers before
@andp120
Жыл бұрын
He has no idea what he's talking about. He never even saw one of this engines
@RobertoGonzalez-kd2yx
Жыл бұрын
I'm So happy with mine, i was ford power stroke owner, much better truck good fuel economy and performance for an 3.0L engine is impressive truck..
@peiguy1982
Жыл бұрын
3 dollars a liter for diesel where I live though. If you buy this over gas, you must just really really really want to own a diesel.
@shanebrown2963
Жыл бұрын
When it all boils down you really aren’t spending that much more on fuel since it’s the best at fuel mileage Specially if your towing. No other half ton engine compares to it.
@ddw3968
Жыл бұрын
My math based on mpg for a 3.0 vs a 5.3 is that if you pay $1.70 more a gallon for diesel vs gas you break even on fuel. If you compared it against the 6.2 which requires premium fuel and has a lower mpg than the 5.3 you would be spending less on fuel with the 3.0 at current diesel prices.
@peiguy1982
Жыл бұрын
@@shanebrown2963 How much does the DEF/SCR/DPF unit cost under the hood 8k dollars? That buys a lot of gasoline and only a 2 year warranty on that. 24k miles warranty by the big 3 on those components. It's a nice engine, just they have ruined diesels with all those emissions components.
@peiguy1982
Жыл бұрын
@@ddw3968 Math never works for diesel. Been there done that. Put the calculator away and just know you always pay more for cost of ownership with diesel. Might have been different pre emissions, but not now.
@ddw3968
Жыл бұрын
@@peiguy1982 sure it does
@JesseLJohnson
Жыл бұрын
The new trucks are an LZO now at least in half ton trucks the SUVs I think still have the LM2 till 2024. I think the pistons are now steel I know they are 305 hp and 495 ft/lbs of torque. I have one of the new Denali Ultimate. I get around 28 mpg and best I have got is 37.5. I think now with they claim 200k miles on the oil pump belt. Either way I am not to concerned. I will have a new truck before I ever had to worry about that lol
@Blackneck1994
Жыл бұрын
Diesel midsize and half ton trucks only made sense before emissions equipment and fuel prices. Now that diesels are riddled with unreliable emissions equipment, extremely expensive high pressure fuel systems, expensive turbos, and overall ongoing added complexity to a once simple design, it’s not worth it. You may get 30 mpg at the pump but any savings are lost once it comes time for repairs. And that’s a fact. Oh what, you think the warranty will save you? Too bad they try to find ANY reason not to honor it. Plus the warranty periods keep getting laughably shorter and shorter. Today’s gas vehicles are PLENTY efficient. Sprinkle in the price of fuel now and it really doesn’t make sense to own a diesel model beyond personal preference, or if it’s truly needed for a towing/hauling application. It hurts to say that since I’m a big diesel fan, but that’s the unbiased truth. I’m sure most guys who own late model diesel midsizes and half tons will tell you they love them… ask them if that’s still the case 10, 15 years from now (assuming they even keep them that long, which you HAVE to to offset the cost and make your money back). Obviously you’re going to “love” any vehicle you just spent a fortune on, granted it doesn’t have insanely premature issues at low mileage. The prime time for a diesel half ton and midsize was back in the 90s/early 00s. Speaking specifically for this truck - 1. A belt driven oil pump is a bad idea even if it’s easily replaceable, of course GM would put it at the back of the engine requiring transmission removal. 2. Also leave it to GM to put a long stroke I6 diesel in a half ton and put a short stroke V8 diesel in the HD trucks. That just seems bass ackwards to me.
@hooverelondono9946
Жыл бұрын
I have one 8 months I get 27 and up to 39 mMPG in highway at 55 MPH . I have towed up to 15,000 ( slowly and flat short distances ) pulls with ease 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 great engine and it’s ultra fast off the line . I put 40,000 miles in 8 months heavy work no issues .
@craighoffman6876
Жыл бұрын
Putting the DPF up close to the turbo to filter EGR created packaging challenges and heat issues under the hood for the 3.0, but it is worth it in my estimation to greatly reduce the soot that EGR otherwise would carry into the engine, which is a very good thing as EGR is Hell on diesels. A friend has a Sierra with this engine, he loves it.
@automotiveandmore
Жыл бұрын
The EGR gases on the 3.0L come post DPF so little to no carbon. Never heard of injectors issues on these engines... and replacing the oil belt once every 150k miles is not a big issue at all. If thats all i have to do twice in the engines life im winning. Also you did not cover that there are 2 generations of this engines. There is the LM2 and LZO recently released. These engines are extremely reliable and very lived by their owners. I really do think you need to do a bit more research before the next video though.
@TheGettyAdventures
Жыл бұрын
I mean I'm pretty sure I said that these engines would be reliable. but the EGR is a mix of low pressure and high pressure gases on this engine. low pressures comes after the DPF yes. High pressure is still bringing in all that carbon. but being honest a belt driven oil pump is a potential issue. big diesels have a gear train driven oil pump, gear on gear making it almost impossible for the pump to stop running because it is so critical. And yes the LZ0 is coming out but I figured I would start with the current generation and see how people are liking them.
@Italianborn
Жыл бұрын
I do own a refreshed model 2022 rst , while i do love the truck i believe nowadays with car manufacturers not checking or testing vehicles are ruining the whole industry, i have 16k (kms) on it and i had to change an airbag, a camera for lane assistance and now experiencing a clunk a few second later the complete stop, not to mention lately when i idle the engine to warm it up the whole truck smells like exhaust , and the back up camera glitches at night.. only 16k , what when later on i will start to have even emission issue ?! I repeat i do love the truck, but that is a bit much to having to deal with on a 70k truck.
@blackericdenice
Жыл бұрын
If an line 6 is better for torque. Why is the duramax in trucks a v8?
@84gssteve
Жыл бұрын
13:30 I'll never understand why Cat (a company that gave up on over the road diesel engines) is the only one that realized pulling EGR exhaust gas from AFTER the DPF, was a good way to prevent sooting of the intake and combustion chamber. Then again, they also made the ARD Head!.......so, yea.
@theodorgiosan2570
Жыл бұрын
VW also did it on the TDIs. EGR is pulled from between the DPF and DOC. There was even an additional EGR filter before it went into the cooler. Not a heavy duty or truck engine but still. BMW on the inline 6 in the 335d and X5 as well.
@duggydo
Жыл бұрын
Didn’t GM change the replacement interval on that belt to 200,000 miles? I read something about it a few months ago.
@andp120
Жыл бұрын
He has no idea what he's talking about. He never even saw one of this engines. Yes belt are no problem on this trucks
@allenwendling6966
Жыл бұрын
I’m still struggling to convert to the 3.0. I’ve always ran a 6.2 but I lean more to the towing than mpg. The oil pump belt is a concern to me. I will sit back and watch over time and probably convert at some time. Hard to beat the fun spirited nature of a 6.2.
@davidweigel2238
Жыл бұрын
I pulled my 7,500 lb camper over the Rockies and over the Continental Divide and and mine perform beautifully, and got 13.5 mpg. Put this thing in Tow Haul and it becomes a beast. Blessings
@BearPapa49
Жыл бұрын
What was the max towing of the 6.2 when you had it ?
@allenwendling6966
Жыл бұрын
@@BearPapa49 9800 pounds. I’ve since went 6.6 duramax as my tow needs have exceeded 10k
@Txyurda
Жыл бұрын
Did you own or ever get the chance to try a 3.0? How much could you pull if you did ?
@realcdcruze3558
Жыл бұрын
A lot of garages won’t service your vehicle if you remove the emission system.
@TheGettyAdventures
Жыл бұрын
It makes sense. but being in this trade I know a lot of shops who will work on anything.
@TheMacronical
Жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, for the 2023 model year 1500 pickup. They've now gone to the next generation of the 3.0 Duramax the LZ0. It has dual SCR & besides that, they just strengthened the heads & liners & block (& what not) for further reliability gains. Plus it has more power which lmao is always nice! As the EGR system, this is actually a hybr id Low Pressure/High Pressure. Unlike virtually every other EGR system (in North America anyway) that is purely high pressure. Hence, soot won't be as big a issue
@TheGettyAdventures
Жыл бұрын
I read about the high and low pressure EGR. makes sense to bring gases that have already passed the DPF and taken out the soot. again it seems like GM was really trying to make good engine which I like to see. as for the new generation I'm exciting to dive into it and see that's new!
@wizard_of_poz4413
Жыл бұрын
@@TheGettyAdventures I have no idea why everyone doesn't do that style and eliminate one of the biggest issues with the emissions
@Swatson0218
Жыл бұрын
The timing system is chain driven not gear driven and to replace the injection pump you do need to remove the transmission. I am a diesel tech at a GM dealership. And they have pretty much fixed the extended or no crank issue with a software update.
@codered9576
Жыл бұрын
Great video, I have a 2022 refresh Chevy Silverado trail boss with the 3.0 and love it. Best power plant I have ever owned. Before I purchased it I did a lot of research and looked up reviews and mostly heard nothing but good things and that was my deciding factor. Take it for a test drive you will like how it feels.
@dave-tb4yu
Жыл бұрын
How do you feel about the new 2023 3 liter diesel how many of the issues or things to be aware of in this video hense thinking about a diesel so it all new to me but I am a Gm support thanks
@chadsanders4500
Жыл бұрын
It’s a great engine. 3 years, 60k miles so far. Excellent power and mileage. Smooth, quiet and efficient. No issues with the engine as of yet. Def usage is a lot when towing tho. My only negative observation.
@Debo89009
Жыл бұрын
Was wondering which 3.0L Diesel is better for a Senior Citizen that tows across the country twice a year about 7k and is there a way to delete the DEF buy removal of a fuse or chip? And then if we take it to the dealership for Service replace the fuse or chip?? So in your opinion is Rams Diesel better than Chevrolet's Diesel for all around cost to own and operate??? I don't care about Ford's, as I will NEVER OWN ANOTHER ONE AGAIN!!! I would Also like to have you compare the 3/4 ton Crew Cab 4X4 with 8ft bed from Ram and Chevy for the most Fuel efficient in either Gas or diesel towing 7k and 10k and not Towing but with 1k in truck (to be like having 4 Adults and tools and gear in truck... I can't believe that nobody is smart enough to come out with a Crew Cab with 8foot bed in a 1/2 TON TRUCK!!! They would sell MILLIONS OF THEM!!! Message me back when you get a chance to do that video as I don't have internet access, until I go 30 miles to Walmart or to McDonald's, because I don't have any Data on my phone... Also where are you located?? As I have a 97 F350 7.3L that NO ONE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT!!! I have spent over 2k in parts and they are just GUESSING AT IT AND COSTING ME MONEY!! I FEEL THAT IF THEY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT, THEY SHOULD PAY ME FOR THEM TO PRACTICE AND LEARN ON MY TRUCK!!! I shouldn't have to pay for them to put on parts that don't fix the problem!! Right?? Especially when I'm on Social Security Disability and on a Very Low Fixed Income!! Please let me know asap, Thanks PS I like your video...
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