Never leave Race Mode. Just push past that redline 😎😎
@Izuna_Elenore
2 жыл бұрын
@@crispy9175 if you take the coolant and oil out the total weight of the car will be less and it will go faster
@crispy9175
2 жыл бұрын
@@Izuna_Elenore i did that but it's still not fast enough... what else can I do? I went to auto zone and got those peal-and-stick hood vents, think they'll add any HP?
@Izuna_Elenore
2 жыл бұрын
If u take out 1 cilinder from your engine, less weight = more speed
@masjuggalo
2 жыл бұрын
What you want to do is when you're at a light with a cop behind you throw it to race Red Line it and when the light turns green dump the clutch
@tclott316
10 ай бұрын
I can smell the interior of both of those trucks. Ah, the memories.
@chriss1914
9 ай бұрын
Smells like getting shit done and beer. Mostly beer.
@alfazagato1455
9 ай бұрын
Both trucks have cracked windshields. Its just law.
@stickshaker101
9 ай бұрын
Omg, you're right!
@ReeferRob115
9 ай бұрын
Every time I hop in one of those old trucks they’re all exactly the same and the smell just brings back some crazy childhood memories
@SidTheMegather
9 ай бұрын
I was just about to comment this. I can also feel de hard crusty seat fake leather 😅
@BlakeJay
2 жыл бұрын
Having "Low" implies to me to skip that and go to 1st gear when not towing a load.
@slovakgopnik8534
2 жыл бұрын
Same
@jonathanodell8854
2 жыл бұрын
Yes agreed...and I bet the later models probably had different rear diff.options That could have changed the shift points a bit higher also
@dchubworldsharenetwork
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanodell8854 No matter how you look it, L or 1 it's the same. Even if final ratio is different it doesn't change anything....
@lucasbiaggini
2 жыл бұрын
@@dchubworldsharenetwork actually, it does change. Most people would simply go for the gear marked "1", instead of "L". That would cause the gearbox to wear faster if the gear marked "1" was actually the second gear instead of being the gear to be used when first moving the car forward from a complete stop.
@tristan6509
2 жыл бұрын
@@lucasbiaggini interestingly on most automatics (ones without tiptronic) L indicates first gear.
@topherl1446
10 ай бұрын
Low usually came with a higher number rear end. Doesn't matter if it is the same transmission or not , you have to consider the final gearing
@mr.shinesmysterychannel3046
10 ай бұрын
Yes exactly I rarely use low to take off.
@cc23001
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂dumbest thing I ever heard
@Eduardo_Espinoza
10 ай бұрын
Good point!
@turkeyboyjh1
10 ай бұрын
Someone knows his stuff, yep it all depends on what gear ratio you had, 2.73-3.73 it’s a 1st gear, 3.73-5.14 it’s a low range
@lastotallyawesomebleach204
9 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@Vibakari
11 ай бұрын
Gm literally handed customers an L
@thatdude8247
10 ай бұрын
🙌👏👏
@vr4runner
10 ай бұрын
That transmission was decent though
@MrBULLRIDER13
10 ай бұрын
Dude that transmission was stout as shit tranny's nowadays can't touch its durability. It was used in everything from 1/2 tons to 2 1/2 ton trucks.
@rogerringold616
10 ай бұрын
Talk about Ford too....
@KayJay940
10 ай бұрын
The reason it doesnt have a number is because you didnt have to start in 1/low and can go straight to 2nd gear. They labeled it LOW so people would realizee you didnt need to start in LOW. This is not a secret and this entire video is debunked.
@gator4536
Жыл бұрын
What we call down here a “granny 4 speed”
@spiffydude16
Жыл бұрын
Came here to say this.
@user-lx1nh7gg8o
Жыл бұрын
granny low the old folks would say here
@thegobblerproject2363
11 ай бұрын
Yup.
@creekandpondfishin4397
11 ай бұрын
Yes sir got one right now lol old k2500
@joshbrock6624
10 ай бұрын
I always heard "Granny low 4 speed"
@icedad9
10 ай бұрын
I had a 91 K5 Blazer with this transmission. Basically drove it like a 3 speed manual. Great truck.
@peterkennedy7219
9 ай бұрын
I did the same thing with 86 C10. 1st gear was useless unless I had some weight in the bed, which was usually when it snowed and I shoveled it into the bed for extra weight.
@Furball-8994
9 ай бұрын
I had a 87 K5 with that trans. They were not a regular 4-speed transmission like the video suggests. The SM465 was geared like a 3-speed 1-3 with a low gear of 6.55 (reverse was only 6.09). You could not start in low and run through the gears like a 4-speed. If you see a SM465 with a 1-4 ball, The handle has been switched.
@jacksoncrynick1467
9 ай бұрын
@@peterkennedy7219why did you want to ADD weight? To help you get traction in the snow?
@peterkennedy7219
9 ай бұрын
@@jacksoncrynick1467 that and if we got lots of snow, I didn't have anywhere to shovel the snow onto because I have a small front yard.
@johnhess351
10 ай бұрын
It was no attempt to fool anyone into thinking they had something special. It was because normal operation usually started out in 2nd and first or low only used for difficult take offs. Whether you think of it as 1st, low or Granny, it really depends on rear end ratios.
@jamogreeno8578
2 жыл бұрын
Would feel like a low gear depending on the rear diff ratio
@jaggns5774
2 жыл бұрын
6.5/1 Low
@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown
2 жыл бұрын
Rear diff gives you a lower final drive ratio.
@dj13yrs1
2 жыл бұрын
My brother has a 91 c1500 ecsb with 3.08 rear gears and nv3500 (5speed) and you don't need first gear in it either and it is a nv3500/getrag290 and not a nv4500 witch in earlier years is a low first gear.
@InuranusBrokoff
2 жыл бұрын
That gear feels like a low gear regardless of the rear end gear, it's nearly unusable. I have one in my squarebody, and it is the least satisfying manual I've ever operated.
@NORTAH85
2 жыл бұрын
It feels like low regardless, due to the ratio in the tranny. Which was 6.55/1
@JamesKintner
Жыл бұрын
Cracks me up... I can smell the inside of that truck in my head. Childhood.
@aarondavis4341
Жыл бұрын
That old man sweat cigarettes and bar smell...haha ..might not EXACTLY describe it but I KNOW what you mean
@JamesKintner
Жыл бұрын
@Aaron Davis Yes! All that cooked in the sun for years and basted in vinyl.
@ruebenllongoria836
10 ай бұрын
Mmmmmm. Sweet Cancer.
@marcusagrippa8078
10 ай бұрын
I love going by an older truck and just smelling for the same reason. My mind floods with memories quicker than the carburetor floods with fuel.
@pizzadude6615
10 ай бұрын
Boffum.🤣🤣🤣
@TooNippley
2 жыл бұрын
“You telling me I’ve been starting in 2nd this whole time!?”
@terryschnereger8531
2 жыл бұрын
2nd place was not all that bad
@user-78dodge
2 жыл бұрын
People tear up there clutch using 2nd as a start
@maxhopkins3468
2 жыл бұрын
Look at the gear ratio index ... same trans , different rear end gears ...
@IvyLyn123
2 жыл бұрын
@@maxhopkins3468 k
@terrellandkaren
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-78dodge 2nd according to him, or 1st according to GM was the proper start gear in these. Top speed of that low gear is maybe 4mph and in fact was for taking off with a load
@garyklein2584
9 ай бұрын
Prior to the 60s, that "L" was truly an extra low, high torque gear. For normal driving, only the 1, 2, and 3 were used. Anytime the truck was started forward without a heavy load, it was started in "1" gear.
@TF856
6 ай бұрын
That low gear was considered a granny gear because it was lower than a normal first gear.
@mymy3172
6 ай бұрын
Exactly. Had that gear box in my 67 gmc 920
@user-cu8up9wm3d
5 ай бұрын
I drive a 1970 f250, 4 speed. You start in 2nd gear, 1st gear or granny gear is used to start with a load
@garyklein2584
5 ай бұрын
I didn't realize that Granny Gear was used as late as 1970. We used it on the farm when loading hay or feeding cattle in the pasture. Even today, semi truck tractors have a range of granny gears, usually the first 2 or 3 speeds that a driver can choose to use when starting from a dead stop. They might even start up in 4th gear when bob-tailing and depending on the speed ranges of the transmission.
@portabletankmfg1
5 ай бұрын
And I believe “L” is non-synchro
@beargibson3100
2 жыл бұрын
We always called it a granny low 4 speed transmission.
@threadtapwhisperer5136
2 жыл бұрын
Yessir. Ol'Dad had a 1975 and a 1983 K5 blazer, plow trucks, 3 speed with granny gear, pretty sure the NP245 or 205(?) Transfer case. Sadly the Wisconsin rustbelt claimed both vehicles. Not before I got a chance to chain up to a massive oak tree stump about 20ft tall and man(well, young man, ha) the trucks vehicular control whilst dad went full send on a McCollough 26" bar chainsaw. My only instruction was to guarantee i kept steady pull on the stump away from the old man. Then start rowing gears and schredding drivelive. 4lo, granny gear and then the damn stump was coming right for me, I absolutelt HAD to snatch 2nd and stand on it. *time to do some sketchy shizz, Hope I get away with it... Think my pants are full of shit...glad I got away with it* Ah, the bond of a father and son realizing aint neither of ya qualified 100% for the task, but the task doesn't seem THAT sketchy, I think we got this. Lol
@cleverusernamenexttime2779
2 жыл бұрын
@@threadtapwhisperer5136 you're not supposed to rip the tree down. You're supposed to keep just enough pressure to keep it from falling on your sawman. You don't want to see that rope snap. The tension released can cause the tree to turn and fall backwards.
@cconnon1912
2 жыл бұрын
We called it “Compound” and we had a 4:11 rear end I believe in Chevy C10.
@WalterBethinE94
2 жыл бұрын
Ol Granny 4 speed, drive one daily in my 87 Chevy
@warrenmcelroy4718
2 жыл бұрын
We always called the 4 speed Bulldog transmissions.
@sycoticone
Жыл бұрын
A Low gear SM465 has a different first gear ratio than a standard SM465. It often also had a lower rear and/or front differential gear ratio as well making it an even lower final drive gear. The L was called the granny gear by many and it didn't need to be used of you weren't hauling or towing a load. Also handy for soft sand in 4x4.
@skatir9
11 ай бұрын
All sm465 had the same first ratio. 6.55:1. The only variants of this unit were input shafts with 10 or 31 spline, and several different output shafts.
@LonersGuide
10 ай бұрын
Also, i would debate that a gear that low is good for soft sand in 4x4 or otherwise. Hard to get enough speed or wheelspeed for soft sand in that low of a gear.
@ryanhamstra49
10 ай бұрын
Probably the same transmission, maybe just a different ratio in the Diff
@advorak8529
10 ай бұрын
“A first gear by any other name is just as low.”
@mrotheos
10 ай бұрын
Saved me some typing
@postaljeepdave
Жыл бұрын
A “L” means your diff has a higher ratio than needed to start off in “L” during normal operation. That’s why they would label them different based on the diff used
@brandonb4224
Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many people can't understand that very simple concept.
@TTURKI
Жыл бұрын
That’s what i was thinking about
@cliffpalermo
Жыл бұрын
Rear gear ratio makes all the difference. Seems logic losses here.
@donaldsink8115
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. You can take that transmission case and change the gear ratios and completely change the outcome. So what he's saying can be easily debunk. On most vehicles the rear end is given but I've never seen the transmission given so unless you tear it down, there's no way he could know if they have the same gearing. I had a 81 Ford with granny first, a friend bought a new 82, on paper everything same, but first gears totally different.
@slobber3397
Жыл бұрын
So, basically you would have to start the older model in 2 during normal operations and the later numbers just indicate a different usage of the gearbox. There are many trucks that you start in the second or even third gear depending on operations and model. Would be logical to call the starting gear 1.
@garlandweissenfluh4549
10 ай бұрын
The SM 420 " gear shift nob " is 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th. The SM 465 is low, 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Both are 2-1/2 ton rated transmissions. I always wondered why they did that. SM 420 is 7.05 to one in first gear. The SM 465 is 6.58.to one. And we call them granny gears also. I've had both transmissions.
@ingeniousmechanic
10 ай бұрын
You're the first one who's seems to be stating a few actual facts. Congrats and good job!
@garlandweissenfluh4549
10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@codyschmur4596
10 ай бұрын
Thank you... gear ratios matter
@joeshumo9457
10 ай бұрын
You forgot the difference in rear gear ratio. Transmissions marked low are for trucks with numerically higher rear gear ratios. You don’t use first to take off normally with lower gears, you use the second gear in the transmission . In this case it’s better to mark 1st as low to avoid the vehicle from bucking and having to shift instantly.
@larryrussell7929
10 ай бұрын
Did both trucks have the same rear end gear.
@harrybeneto2823
2 жыл бұрын
There is such a thing as a granny low, I've had 4-speed hot rods, 1st gear wasn't as low as in a truck
@Burnside1905
2 жыл бұрын
Yup the first gear (low) ratio on the sm465 is 6.55:1 which is very low, making it a granny gear. Normally you just start in 2nd unless towing of course.
@ChessIsJustAGame
2 жыл бұрын
T-18 / T18A had it on a Jeep CJ, normally drove 2, 3, 4.
@truckerwayne
2 жыл бұрын
But really if it is a forward gear it is always 1 st gear whether low or not. It's a 4 speed.
@tomg1066
2 жыл бұрын
How it "feels" has A LOT to do with the Rear Diff Ratio as well.....
@davidvaughn7778
2 жыл бұрын
I had an 87 f150. 1st gear was "granny low" then you had 2,3,4. Trust me, unless you were trying to pull the world you didn't need to use it. I could literally let out the clutch with no throttle and it would lurch forward and move about 5mph.
@BadKarmaM3
Жыл бұрын
Final drive also matters. Even if it's the same transmission, a very low final drive could make first gear useless except when you're hauling heavy loads. It went indicate that most people should start in the transmission's second gear for normal acceleration.
@phillipthethird42
2 жыл бұрын
It's not about how many gears But the ratio of each one. And that changed over the years.
@DudesWithWrenches
2 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge 1st was always 6:55:1 please let me know what years that was different I'm honestly asking not tring to attack you just asking I would really like to know. Thanks for watching 👍
@6.2ldetroitdieselmafia
2 жыл бұрын
That's because 3rd gear was basically 4th direct I have the exact same transmission in my 1991 Chevy K 2500 With 373 gears front and rear with an NP241 stock
@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown
2 жыл бұрын
The sm465 only had one set of gear ratios during its run.
@sidgar1
10 ай бұрын
All SM465's had the same gear ratios: 1st(L) 6.55:1 2nd 3.58:1 3rd 1.7:1 4th 1.1:1 Reverse 6.09:1 There was the similar SM420 trandmission, which had slightly different ratios, maybe you were thinking of that?
@phillipthethird42
7 ай бұрын
@@sidgar1 Ok, I stand corrected. I must have been thinking it was the same trans.
@shatteredreality1987
10 ай бұрын
I still remember my first truck with the "Granny four speed". The seat was stuck all the way back, plus I wasn't very tall at 16 to begin with. So needless to say driving at night was very interesting, it looked like I was trying to stomp on a hornet when trying to reach the dimmer switch in time so I didn't blind oncoming traffic. Oh man I sure do miss the good Ole days and I miss my Grandparents most of all. I should have listened a little better back then when my elders told me I better cherish these days because they will be gone in the blink of an eye. Oh how right they were, I truly miss those days and oh how I wish I would have spent more time living in the moment!!
@jstravelers4094
8 ай бұрын
You're not dead yet. Stop wasting time worrying about the past. Life isn't over. Live now!
@DanfromOz
7 ай бұрын
Remember when is the lowest form of conversation
@sinner-saint361
6 ай бұрын
In the words of your grandparents " you better cherish these days now" because they go even faster.
@thomaswoitekaitis8977
2 жыл бұрын
One thing that cannot be argued about is the sm 465s ability to make 185 hp seem like it's 300+ , we just had a 78 4x4 shorty with 35s that hustled like a hot rod. Besides the football field length throws between gears its an awesome transmission
@austinaubinoe2195
2 жыл бұрын
That was such a great transmission. I have an 87 F350 with a Borg Warner T19. The top loader 4 speeds were perfect for heavy haulers until everyone wanted to drive above 70mph. I also run 50 weight motor oil in them.
@larrygreen492
2 жыл бұрын
Idk what it was, all I knew about it was, I was 16, it was transportation to town and it would haul a$$ for a "farm truck"
@AndrewB23
2 жыл бұрын
I swapped a 465+205 in my k5 and it made that thing a blast to drive, I liked putting in low sometimes and just walking beside it while it just creeps forward
@edwardbianchi192
2 жыл бұрын
When I use my “1” or “L” on my 69 I can only reach 5 to 6 MPH. So I start off in “2” 99.9999 % of the time.
@beersngearz781
2 жыл бұрын
15 mph in mine is redline
@TheBeeMan1994
2 жыл бұрын
2nd matches a regular manual transmissions 1st gear, it’s a 3.58:1 ratio, whereas a Hondas 1st gear is 3.25:1
@HbCAMM_CT
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, unless starting uphill
@Infiniteperspective1111
2 жыл бұрын
I think that is actually why they changed it, you never need to start out in 1 (low) normal every day circumstances
@MiloPerrotti
2 жыл бұрын
you may have a SM420 which has a higher ratio 1st gear 7.05:1 vs 6.55
@Herman1776
2 жыл бұрын
Also everyone would start in second. So calling it low makes sense. In that regard.
@calebheney302
2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention low/first fidnt have synchros
@TehBIGrat
2 жыл бұрын
I knew someone that never left 3rd, started in 3rd stayed in 3rd. No one knew she didn't know how to drive manual.
@protipskiptoendofvideoandr286
2 жыл бұрын
@@TehBIGrat yes she got the hardest part down pat. Thays wild
@ArtilleryAndy
2 жыл бұрын
@@TehBIGrat crazy she can use the clutch but not move a stick up and down
@brahtrumpwonbigly7309
2 жыл бұрын
Or you could use first like everyone actually would because most people are normal.
@ryanmcenroe8680
9 ай бұрын
I daily drive a 7500lb truck that I believe has an SM465 in it. The L gear is unsynchronized so the only way to shift into it is to be at a stop with the clutch in for a few seconds. I used L for starting on a very steep hill but 1 for normal driving. I use the L gear once in a month maybe.
@jstravelers4094
8 ай бұрын
I was happiest using "L" going DOWN a steep grade with a heavy load.
@GWGarage.
Жыл бұрын
Yes you are correct. Many of the trucks that had low also had 4:10 gears while the one with first had 3:73s out back
@seanandrew2823
11 ай бұрын
You are correct, dudes with wrenchs is wrong.
@enzoperruccio
10 ай бұрын
So second gear would behave like first, third like second, and so on. Makes total sense, actually starting in second would eat clutches like crazy.
@the77eltigre
10 ай бұрын
had one with a 3.73 rear end, it was labled L123
@Kdog307
10 ай бұрын
my 373 k5 had L
@trackandtravelwithrick8933
10 ай бұрын
My 70 GMC has 4.10 gears and 1 thru 4 Sierra grande 3/4 ton still original so maybe a Chevy thing but not on gmc
@johnspartan3405
10 ай бұрын
Show em the 3 on the tree! That was some fun learnin'
@1paultv22
Жыл бұрын
I remember back in the day when the shifter (on fords) had an 'L,' that was the creeper gear with no synchros. You had to stop to put it in low gear and top speed was between 4to8 mph and 2nd gear was like a normal 1st gear. If it had a 1 for 1st gear then it was synchro'd so you could down and upshift into the gear like normal and hit speeds of 25 to 40 mph before you had to shift.
@EvrttGrn
Жыл бұрын
Yep, My '70 F-250 topped out at about 5 mph in low gear.
@warrenmcelroy4718
Жыл бұрын
This is so wrong it’s ridiculous. Most ALL of Fords Four speeds were marked as 1234 like this even the T18’s with the Non Synchronized first gear. The T19 was fully synchronized but many of them still had a very low first gear so they were driven much the same as the granny gear/bulldog transmissions.
@poellot
10 ай бұрын
You did not need to stop to put it in that gear, you needed to let the clutch out and rev the engine to match the speed to go to that gear while moving if you wanted to. Thats how a semi truck transmission is in every gear.
@warrenmcelroy4718
10 ай бұрын
@@poellot no, with these old four speeds you Have to stop, then put it in first gear. You should always come to a stop before shifting into your takeoff gear anyway but with these old four speeds you generally always takeoff in 2nd gear and first gear is Not Synchronized and is geared so low that coming to a stop before shifting is damn near the only way to do it. These aren’t Heavy duty Semi Truck transmissions, they’ve smaller parts are are built much tighter than a heavy duty truck trans and are designed to be shifted using the clutch.
@poellot
10 ай бұрын
@@warrenmcelroy4718 ask a truck driver. You let the clutch out, rev the engine till the speeds match.
@mesomemore97
10 ай бұрын
4 in the floor. 3 on the tree. Steel dashboards Those were the days.
@uwusmolbean
2 жыл бұрын
1st in ur transmission, Last in our hearts 🖤
@Kamal_AL-Hinai
2 жыл бұрын
Okay, this is wholesome!
@uzielyanez5975
2 жыл бұрын
I prefer automatic all the way💯
@danielstark8258
2 жыл бұрын
All about the rear differential, the 3 speed with low might be unusable in low gear on the road. The 4 speed might have a lower ratio rear dif and therefor useful on the road
@seanprados4829
2 жыл бұрын
My dad had one of the last of those standard transmission with the Low. We could really only use it to pull out the our fishing boats out of boat landings. Press clutch, put in Low, and release clutch, do not touch gas pedal, and it would walk itself out.
@davypig571
2 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy I saw two stick shift trucks on the same day 🥰
@taggerinc2652
10 ай бұрын
The low means it has a lower ratio than the standard first gear on the other four speed. Not only did you not need it without a load, you didn't want to use it unless you were loaded because you would top it out and have to go to the real first gear before you got your foot off of the pedal. At least that's the way every granny gear I ever drove was.
@eyeveedeath
Жыл бұрын
That old Hurst shift boot brought back all kinds of warm memories.
@metalsurgeon9196
2 жыл бұрын
And that gear is huge! I've rebuilt a few that came from UPS trucks, really reliable. Tricky to take the lid off I'll keep that secret back and see who says what!
@richardswancer4103
2 жыл бұрын
What made it tricky to take it off?
@metalsurgeon9196
2 жыл бұрын
@@richardswancer4103 not saying but you can't just reach down and take the lid off once it's unbolted.
@richardswancer4103
2 жыл бұрын
@@metalsurgeon9196 gotcha lol I was confused at first
@metalsurgeon9196
Жыл бұрын
@@richardswancer4103 alright, months now and no one played, it's gotta be half way into reverse. Look through the lever hole, the front of the reverse fork gate will line up with the back of the 3/4 gate. When you put it back together, line up the back of the reverse idler with the back of the either the second speed gear when in neutral, or it's the first speed/ reverse gear. Been a really long time and they aren't on the road any more!
@bikerguykrash1182
2 жыл бұрын
Ford done the same thing grandparents had an f150 with 4+r but the dealership showed them the year earlier of the same model truck that had L 234 + reverse but the truck they bought had 1234+r basically the salesman threw ford under the bus on that. He also told them unless they was towing they could start in 2nd because how low 1st gear was. Which was true. The truck took off like normal in 2nd.
@mach1yell66
2 жыл бұрын
It's called a granny gear, to get you moving pulling a load.
@nomadforchrist4337
2 жыл бұрын
What year was that f150 because they were F100 for quite awhile.
@bikerguykrash1182
2 жыл бұрын
It was in 80's not exactly sure on the year I was a little kid.but I remember grampa having I think was a 100 but it was a 70's model he didn't have that truck when they moved back to Florida in the early 80's
@sashimiturtle
10 ай бұрын
There's 2 different gear sets for that transmission... one was an unsyncronized low gear, the other was a synchronized 1st gear.
@dimitrihatsis6994
7 ай бұрын
On those GM transmissions. Wasn’t it also L was a different gear ratio than the other GM 1 gear? Also L,1,2,3 and R had no direct gear then the other GM 1,2,3,4 and R with a direct gear in 4th as a 1.1 ratio? I never got a clean answer.
@ripnandtearing
7 ай бұрын
Nope all 465s had the exact same ratios in every single transmission they built.Also 4 was always direct drive.I don't know where people get these ideas.
@sashimiturtle
7 ай бұрын
@@ripnandtearing must be thinking of the Ford T18/19... never was a GM guy
@ripnandtearing
6 ай бұрын
@@sashimiturtle GM did use the nv833 which was a 2wd 4spd with 4th being an overdrive gear. Same scenario, people want to call it a 3spd with overdrive. It's a 4spd. It has 4 forward gears.
@sashimiturtle
6 ай бұрын
@@ripnandtearing i think a lot of that "3 speed with overdrive" came from dealers and manufacturers back in the day. 3 speed was the norm and 3rd was direct drive. When overdrive transmissions started coming out that really wanted to stress that their transmission had an overdrive gear, so they said it was like your old 3 speed, but with an overdrive gear.
@idessaoutlaw
2 жыл бұрын
Granny Low would crawl but the newer Low was too fast to pick up hay off the field or pull heavy loads, so I always swapped em out.
@dundonrl
2 жыл бұрын
Drop my pickup in 1st gear and put the transfer case in low range. Redline the engine and you're doing about 7 mph and at idle 1.3 mph. (Max torque to the ground is 35,680 ft lbs)!
@EveeHarting
Жыл бұрын
Good ole' "Granny Gear", that extra time it takes to haul something is a built in break from whatever work your doing around the farm lol
@michaelhmfic8346
2 жыл бұрын
Got to admit that 1st in the SM465 is pretty low geared.
@donniemontoya9300
2 жыл бұрын
The low gear in 2 wheel drive is still near useless for street driving.
@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown
2 жыл бұрын
@Shaun Faust please stop kid, you sound like an idiot. 1) In 73 gm switched from 1st gear to "low" as a marking gimmick because the first gear was useless during normal drive and not because of the "transfer case" like you so ignorantly claimed. 2) the 208 was introduced in 81 in k5, burds, k10, k20 platforms, the k30 still used the 205. 3) the sm420 had a lower first gear and lower total crawl ratio, they were considered a 4 speed.
@zakikahl6904
2 жыл бұрын
@@donniemontoya9300 Yes it’s a 6.55:1 ratio that’s double what any actual usable driving 1st gear it
@InuranusBrokoff
2 жыл бұрын
Stupid low, I've been meaning to swap mine out since I bought my squarebody.
@warrenmcelroy4718
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it’s still first gear
@zo9238
10 ай бұрын
Those SM465s are great, i got one in my 83 C20, L 1 2 3, but you could start those trucks in 2nd (3rd) gear. There was no stopping that gearbox, or it from eating all your gas in botb tanks.
@stonecoldreznov2780
10 ай бұрын
I 2nd this. My 86 3/4 ton silverado gets 7mpg.
@zo9238
10 ай бұрын
@@stonecoldreznov2780 C or K series?
@stonecoldreznov2780
10 ай бұрын
@@zo9238 K20 4.10s with a 5.7 350 It's slow but I love to drive it.
@@stonecoldreznov2780 I got a 350 as well, and yeah it's slow as fuck but will pull anything
@tonys901
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 94 silverado with a NV4500 5 speed but "1st" is "L" and "5th" is "OD". "L" is some crazy ratio like 6.somethig:1 I only use if I'm towing, otherwise I start out in "1st" gear (the second forward gear position). Both those transmissions are the same but the first forward gear position ratios may not be the same
@LottimusMaximus
10 ай бұрын
Also had this in a Blazer. 1st is an extremely low gear. Never really used it unless I was taking off in the middle of a steep hill way up in the mountains.
@smokeskull
2 жыл бұрын
Pro tip. The trans has to be half way into reverse to remove the top cover. Most of them the front input shaft is replaceable without complete trans disassembly. There's a notch in the clutch shaft that allows easy removal.
@TheVanderbone
2 жыл бұрын
Hey I didn’t need it myself but I appreciate you dropping knowledge like that.
@MrChevelle83
9 ай бұрын
yea maby but by the time the imput gear is bad the rest of the transmission is shot as well. ive rebuilt a truck load of sm465 and np435 and a few 420 as well. all great durable units too.
@royormonde3682
10 ай бұрын
I had a few pickups with the bull low and all it meant is you can use it as a 3 speed when running empty. It was a very high gear and not needed all the time as these trucks were sold as a tough work truck, which they were.
@jstravelers4094
8 ай бұрын
Now everybody wants to pretend they're a "work man"😅
@warrenmcelroy4718
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for affirming what I’ve been trying to get through peoples heads for EVER!!
@philippesabourin9026
2 жыл бұрын
That p 30 trans your showing it started the late 70's early 80's up to 95 I think and it was the best they ever made I know I had 2 of em !!
@chasegrostic355
2 жыл бұрын
But you needed two of them…..
@philippesabourin9026
2 жыл бұрын
2 trucks!!!! 1 3/4 tone the other 1 tone and both of em 4×4 !!!! Want a picture withe that and a list of all the trucks I had ???
@Texassince1836
10 ай бұрын
1968-1991 on that transmission model.
@kieferonline
10 ай бұрын
It's similar to some tall buildings in the world where "G" is the ground floor and "1" is actually up in the air, where we'd normally call it the 2nd floor.
@mowgli2071
10 ай бұрын
When they build the building with 13 floors and they want to label 12 on the elevator due to the superstition
@kieferonline
10 ай бұрын
@@mowgli2071 Yes! That's right. Especially in Las Vegas, no hotel wants to have a 13th floor. Bonus fact: In Chinese speaking lands, they skip all floors ending in 4, so no 14th, 24th, 34th, etc. The reason is the number 4 sound very close to the word "die" or "death" in Chinese.
@bryang9290
9 ай бұрын
You could have floors B and T in there too.. good luck figuring out which one gets you out the door to the street lol
@mowgli2071
9 ай бұрын
@@bryang9290 "B" is for basement. Which is some houses is also known as a cellar. I know I'm probably not getting to the street entrance from the basement
@JonBecker81
9 ай бұрын
Or a guitar amp that goes to 11.
@TERRORoftheLORD
2 жыл бұрын
Getting from low to 1st without stopping took some high rpms moments and perfect shifting!
@ethelmini
Жыл бұрын
You start most proper trucks moving in second unless you're fully loaded on a hill. Marking it low is sensible to discourage peop-le from using it that don't know better & are likely to break their truck.
@davidaix5771
2 жыл бұрын
I used to drive a fueling truck that we had it was C30 Chevy and anhatta at 3 speed with a low
@psd28
2 жыл бұрын
So it had a 4 speed
@davidaix5771
2 жыл бұрын
@@psd28 idk because the old school mechanic that was Mentoring me called it a Granny low gear He said she's used for pulling like we have to pull out a stump or something
@quadnation485
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidaix5771 probably 4 speed then because on the mixer truck I drive there’s 4 low range gears an 4 high range plus low an reverse. They say it’s a ten speed transmission, but on some they got low-low (granny low I guess) an you can flip a switch and get a lower ratio in reverse and in the first four gears. Still a 10 speed, it’s weird shit
@SuperTheast
2 жыл бұрын
@@quadnation485 that’s a 2-speed rear end most likely with separate gearing or it has an over drive setting so you technically do have 10 gears.
@warrenmcelroy4718
2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperTheast no
@PocketBrain
2 жыл бұрын
"It's got a granny first."
@Yo-Yo888AA
9 ай бұрын
The reason is the gear ratio in the rear diff. Higher gear in diff was 1,2,3,4, Lower grared diff was L,1,2,3
@FrankC-lt7px
11 ай бұрын
That’s one tough transmission
@crispy9175
2 жыл бұрын
How did i learn something i already knew? That's how I feel after watching this. I knew L was basically a 1st gear... but i never thought of it that way before. Thanks man!
@warrenmcelroy4718
2 жыл бұрын
WoW, I just don’t know what to say
@crispy9175
Жыл бұрын
@@warrenmcelroy4718 you should say "WoW, I just don't know what to say" Also, I've started driving my automatic like a manual and my car is so much faster now..I go L, 2, OD, then Drive, then I turn off eco mode.... I've won at least 7 races against the kids with the pedal car that run around my neighborhood like their the next Richard Petty.. Really showed them.
@warrenmcelroy4718
Жыл бұрын
@@crispy9175 🤣🤣🤣👏🏿👏🏿😆
@drcoolio93
2 жыл бұрын
May also be for emissions/sound workaround like the gelande gear in the 959
@scottcol23
2 жыл бұрын
was going to say the same thing! it was a loophole. from what I remember, the test for noise pollution was done in 3rd gear which would actually be 4th in this case making the car quieter and more fuel efficient.
@peted5217
10 ай бұрын
1966 F100 Camper Special Stick had unsyncro'd Walking Granny Low & Dash pull throttle control that farmers used . The unpiloted truck would follow row furrow @ 1-3 mph while been loaded or unloaded in the field. 3.50 Dana 60 sure grip axle.
@BigT962
7 ай бұрын
So it was basically the first “self driving” vehicle? Lol. That’s actually a really cool fact.
@quarrydawg5424
9 ай бұрын
A 4-spd has syncros for 1st gear. a 3 speed with a low has no syncros for the low and the gearing is way different. just because the case is the same, it doesn't mean the guts are and that they can be driven the same way.
@ripnandtearing
7 ай бұрын
Wrong.Never built a 465 with a synchronized 1st gear.
@quarrydawg5424
6 ай бұрын
@@ripnandtearing you're right! sm465's didn't have a synchronized 1st gear. I was wrong about them having different guts. That said, there is no real reason to use the "1st", or low gear, on the street unless you have an extremely heavy load. The first forward gear on a sm465 is a low gear. Calling an unsynchronized 6.55:1 gear anything other than a low is just silly. My '67 C40 has a SM420 with a 7.06:1 "1st".
@timwindsor03
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video brother. Thanks for sharing. Keep the content coming. Hope you have an incredible day. Much love and RESPECT
@TonyGingrich
10 ай бұрын
Let's not ignore the transfer case range lever.
@Navybyrde
9 ай бұрын
Not all trucks have transfer cases. Most farm trucks are 2wd.
@TonyGingrich
9 ай бұрын
@@Navybyrde My comment was specific to the pickup in this video. It is indeed a 4x4, hence the range lever to the left of the gear shifter.
@brobot411
10 ай бұрын
I love that 80’s Chevy you got! I had one
@brandonheckathorn3270
2 жыл бұрын
4 forward gears is 4 speeds.
@jaggns5774
2 жыл бұрын
I have 6 forward gears, two of them are the same. Do I still have 6 speeds?
@brahtrumpwonbigly7309
2 жыл бұрын
@@jaggns5774 depends on the circumstances.
@wymple09
Жыл бұрын
SM465 was imdestructible
@jefftowns4415
10 ай бұрын
Just a clutch change only, helped change a few clutches in different trucks never a transmission repair or replacement.
@wymple09
10 ай бұрын
@@jefftowns4415 Nobody used low gear for driving. It was a crawl speed. We drove these in 2-3-4, or123 if low was designated as L.
@jefftowns4415
10 ай бұрын
@@wymple09 exactly 1st or low used only to get a load moving.
@chrismannifield3222
10 ай бұрын
Until you flat tow it......
@yasayrad8969
Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the amp that goes to eleven skit 😂.
@danielcaruso5155
Жыл бұрын
yeah because it's 1 louder
@concretedragon3113
10 ай бұрын
4 Speed granny low is what we called em back in the 1900's
@JMKacz91
10 ай бұрын
"It's a spade!" "No, it's a shovel" 😅
@sussybaca7256
7 ай бұрын
A spade is a type of shovel. Mainly used for digging holes. I need a spade shovel because i only got a square shovel for scooping dog crap. A square shovel is more work to dig a hole with. 😊
@tamargandy8325
2 жыл бұрын
The gulability of the public is legendary
@joemarchinski914
Жыл бұрын
most underated and true statement ....
@genebingaman4306
Жыл бұрын
The fact that you climbed in an OBS with an SM 465 and not a NV 4500 impresses me
@davidleavitt3804
Жыл бұрын
Might be a 88-91 before the nv4500 came out.
@genebingaman4306
Жыл бұрын
@@davidleavitt3804 im sure it is, its an aluminum top style kinda rare in my area
@MrChevelle83
9 ай бұрын
@@genebingaman4306yep Ive only seen a couple of them in the south as well, pretty rare and the 4L80E is much better and nearly as strong too.
@recoveringmillennial9695
10 ай бұрын
The reason some vehicles have what's called a low gear is because the are instances when the low or first gear is used for jobs that require it to travel at a very low speed. Doing a job that requires that in a higher gear means you'd have to ride the clutch which will burn it up very quickly. For those wondering, I've seen that happen way too often, it's much more common than some would think.
@jstravelers4094
8 ай бұрын
That only happens when the truck is used for actual work. Most trucks are just commuter cars.....grocery getters. I like cars when I am not at work. Trucks are dumb unless you actually use it as a truck.
@donkegin4946
2 жыл бұрын
We call it granny gear where i live.
@jamesb1994
2 жыл бұрын
Good ol Bible Belt
@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown
2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's called that in most of the country, thats what we call it on the west coast.
@warrenmcelroy4718
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown four speed Bulldog transmission in my area
@BuffsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Good info!
@Lolbama2012
2 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna argue semantics so we can both be wrong."
@frankgeorgeo8582
10 ай бұрын
I just bought a 92 Z71 Silverado auto trans I wish it was manual transmission. But it's perfect, hardly any rust amazing shape for 31 years old. Looks exactly like the blue interior in this vid
@ARSZLB
2 жыл бұрын
make them FEEL like they have a really low hauler gear…? they literally DO have one…wtf 🤨
@warrenmcelroy4718
2 жыл бұрын
He is saying that the trans with the shift pattern marked as L123 has no lower of a gear ratio than the trans marked as 1234, same trans, same gear ratios, no difference at all other than how it’s marked on the shifter.
@notdustinschatz9357
2 жыл бұрын
It's really a two speed because I only use second and fourth
@huntsbychainsaw5986
Жыл бұрын
Sure it has a "low" but it doesn't have a "low low" lol! Good old 8LL
@pickledcottoncandy
9 ай бұрын
Great transmission. Bulletproof.
@DudesWithWrenches
Жыл бұрын
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@alexislaisney3749
Жыл бұрын
What is the gearing in first/ low? When I drive my sm465 I never use first gear.
@akopavetisyan8972
Жыл бұрын
@@alexislaisney3749 p
@SoulTouchMusic93
Жыл бұрын
You're correct but let me be the devil's advocate here. In truck world you wouldn't even start with first gear. According to the load you've got and the slope you're on you're gonna start with anything between 2 and 4. That would be the most common. If the manufacturer calculated the power train and clutch to work fine with starting in first, not low, then it somewhat is a first gear.
@beatles42ohgg94
Жыл бұрын
i was wondering why beamNG did this in game
@calebvalder6855
5 ай бұрын
Great point. The highest number on an 18spd semi truck shifter is 8. It’s not about the number listed it’s about how many gears.
@mega0056
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I always thought they were the same thing. Glad to see that it was fairly correct.
@EB_110
6 ай бұрын
I think the reason is that you could in most case start moving on the 2 gear, the 1st gear was only for situation where the truck was super loaded. So it made sense changing the markings so people would feel weird putting on the Secound gear...
@johnhuey2104
10 ай бұрын
Rock solid transmissions. Awesome for crawling. The sm420 was a little shorter in size. Biggest common problem was 2nd gear or 3rd if it didn’t say low would pop out do to warn synchros. The fix was a torque lock. The synchros we’re back cut slightly so the more you stomp the gas the more it holds the gear. This upgrade requires a complete tear down and rebuild. Very well worth it if you plan on crawling. Having a truck that can idle over curbs is impressive.
@fenn_fren
9 ай бұрын
Actually, the L & R on the shifter stands for Left & Right, these trucks were amazing for parallel parking.
@gwatts2745
9 ай бұрын
Granny low is for pulling stumps or a heavy boat. The final gear ratio relies on the differential, and rim / tire size.
@ricksadler797
10 ай бұрын
My dad still drives a 1970 ford equivalent never misses a beat
@LandyAndy62
10 ай бұрын
4 gears with the same ratios yes, but depending on what ratio the axle has will determine whether you could comfortably pull away in ‘2nd’. If you can use ‘2nd’ to pull away in normal driving, then that is effectively 1st gear and the other is Low (crawler gear). Some models of Transit still do this today.
@brianjay692
9 ай бұрын
First manual I ever drove. Didn’t tear it up.
@Habu71
9 ай бұрын
I am NOT one of those people who claim the old stuff like this "was the best way...blah blah blah"... However, there are some times I miss an old bench seat, an old dirty shifter with a busted boot or a column shifter, two different keys (one for the ignition and one for the locks), and the floor dimmer switch. Takes me back to my younger days.
@Cichlid_Visuals
9 ай бұрын
the transmissions intended for having a low gear had a more aggressive rear end, which made the 1st gear ratio in true low gear territory.
@ridgerunnerperformance-jas5418
10 ай бұрын
If I remember correct the "granny low" transmission didn't have a synchronized first, low or granny low whatever you wanted to call it. You could down shift into that gear unless you was nearly stopped.
@marktunstall4177
10 ай бұрын
Glad he was ok that’s the main thing . But should be a lesson to us all that these bikes can out perform us all . Safe riding everyone 👍
@markdanielczyk944
10 ай бұрын
We had those transmissions behind 6.2, and 6.5L diesels in the late '80's.
@That_AMC_Guy
10 ай бұрын
And you know the funny part is, my fathers' truck had the knob labelled L-1-2-3 and he rarely used the L gear choosing to start the truck off in 1. Sure it worked but years later when I inherited the truck, I would start in L and it was so much easier to drive and the clutch was much more forgiving.
@jstravelers4094
8 ай бұрын
But you barely start rolling and need to up shift.
@That_AMC_Guy
8 ай бұрын
@@jstravelers4094 Nah, it was good for 15-20 km/h.
@juliancastillo9570
5 ай бұрын
L means left, when making a left turn you put it into L, for those wondering
@cephasmartin8593
10 ай бұрын
We used to call "low" compound, but that was back in the 50's.
@keatomic
5 ай бұрын
Man I remember those steering wheel covers.
@joshzwies3601
10 ай бұрын
Many trucks can move off in second gear unloaded, so it kind of makes sense to label first gear as "Low" instead of "First".
@williamsedlock3903
10 ай бұрын
Well I know the low in my dad's 77 Chevy square body was a very very low first gear I remember reading the instructions talking about top speed in first gear four-wheel drive.. he won many awards for that truck during the blizzard of 78
@MechanicParker
8 ай бұрын
I put a 3 speed toploader into a 1974 Ford LTD. It's a big car with a 2.99 first and a 2.75 rear end. Boy how I sure wish I had that granny low! This thing is an old dawg but I love it.
@joewestern6387
10 ай бұрын
I guess it depends on whether you can use 1st (actually 2nd) on the truck with “L” to start the truck up a moderate incline - from a dead stop - without having to burn the clutch. If it will accelerate naturally/normally, in 1, ten maybe it does have “L”
@richarmarsh8739
9 ай бұрын
In the deepest South one may hear in hushed tones of a miraculously omnipotent and often coveted transmission: The"Granny Low" four speed.
@phillipsuttles1926
9 ай бұрын
In a lot of trucks, 1st gear was creeper gear for use when hauling heavy loads. to start out with more torque. With no load, you started in 2nd gear and shifted up from there. i had one of these trucks, and 1st gear wound out at about 10-15 mph.
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