the way Col Nelson speaks to Sitting Bull is almost exactly the way William Henry Harrison spoke to Tecumseh 65 years earlier. these guys had a knack for getting under the Indian war chiefs skin using their own mannerisms and modes of speaking.
@yamchayaku
3 жыл бұрын
@Nicholas Ramey literally speaking, lol
@hori1371
2 жыл бұрын
funny way of calling them flogs
@MrSinister718
2 жыл бұрын
I hate indigenous people and their bullshit so much. They were given mercy and sympathy and deserve none of it.
@user-zr6pl6nb6z
Жыл бұрын
@Danny Tallmage Sitting Bull was a boomer?
@prigual2901
Жыл бұрын
@Danny Tallmage I don't think so.
@kyiaao
4 жыл бұрын
As a First Nations native, it annoys me when people, and even my relatives say that we were peaceful people. When in reality, we weren’t even close. Not everyone’s history is peaceful and right, and that was kinda a hard pill for me to swallow about my people, but I’m just glad that I did. I still love my people and my culture of course Edit: Obviously some debates going on in the replies. Why don't we all just settle down and share a peace pipe.
@kyiaao
3 жыл бұрын
priest S'fox Like I said, I’m a First Nations native. My ancestors were warriors who waged war with the Cree and other tribes for land and power. Far from the tree loving stereotype that liberal media likes to portray us as. So when people say MY ancestors were peaceful, I find it insulting. And honestly, I think my ancestors would find it pretty insulting as well
@Vulcano2023
3 жыл бұрын
priest S'fox there’s no word for jail. Okay so what did they do with the bad people then?
@kyiaao
3 жыл бұрын
priest S'fox So the scalping and raiding of neighbouring tribes for land, game and resources is just sport between us, right? It’s all love, no war, right?
@Vulcano2023
3 жыл бұрын
priest S'fox are you serious? There’s bad people in all cultures.
@Vulcano2023
3 жыл бұрын
priest S'fox it’s not even a cultural thing though... they exist in all cultures. Whether it be someone who turns bad or has a mental illness that makes them do bad things. There is literally no debate.
@loslobos786
Жыл бұрын
As a Native American myself what I love about this scene is the authenticity of it. So much of our history is BS noble savage nonsense. That crap doesn't help people come to terms with who we are, what happened, how it went, where we are and where we are going. A hundred years before the Whites arrived the Sioux Genocided the Pawnee, Crow and other Native peoples to get the Black Hills it wasn't sacred it was just a resource they needed to survive so they did what they had to do, just like the Whites did. As I tell my children we fought our selves as much as we fought the Whites no one is to blame learn from it be proud and move forward.
@vernonlemoignan1392
10 ай бұрын
My British ancestors were conquered many times. I view their history with pride. Native Americans were at a huge technological disadvantage when europeans arrived. They defended their home with unparalleled courage and resolve. I have great respect for the people who came before me on this land and i hope one day we can all live here and be proud of what we created after the wars were over.
@loslobos786
10 ай бұрын
@@vernonlemoignan1392 I have nothing but respect for all other peoples. I don't want the land given back, Whites to leave or reparations. After all most of us are mixed up anyway. Besides no White person alive today committed Genocide on my People just as no one in my tribe committed Genocide on them. We should remember the past but not dwell on it.
@rctrue
9 ай бұрын
Respect to you my friend. When two can agree on truth, it is a good thing
@SpartacusColo
8 ай бұрын
Well put.
@williamcrowder2226
8 ай бұрын
Well said. I am Cherokee, so the plains conflicts were very different ones from the costal tribes, but you make a good point. I hold my head high when I think about my ancestors. The people in this scene were probably here 200 years - not colonizers. People don't look at the complex issue cleary.
@MrJustonemorevoice
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say. Love this scene. The Colonel didn't even try to morally condemn the Chief or his people. He even said they were equal in their cause in very clear terms. The Colonel is not insulting Sitting Bull, he's trying to lay out a very uncomfortable truth that he himself probably hates as well.
@Phineas1626
3 жыл бұрын
Of course you love it. You probably also love it when someone responds to a secretly recorded racist diatribe by, say, the white owner of a professional sports team: “Blacks are racist too!” The only problem is that you’re missing the obvious: what Miles is saying is completely irrelevant. What the Sioux did to the Pawnee, etc., didn’t justify the United States government’s “Manifest Destiny.” Does might prevail? Always. But that doesn’t mean it’s right. And that’s what’s missing from the dialog.
@rexriply
3 жыл бұрын
@@Phineas1626 Bro he Literally didn't say that it makes it right he said quite the opposite you're arguing a point that he already agrees with and that's that both sides aren't really noble
@Phineas1626
3 жыл бұрын
@@rexriply You missed my point completely. Instead of addressing the situation at hand-the US government forcing natives onto reservations-he launches into a tirade about how native tribes were killing each other before the white man arrived, which is completely irrelevant. Why is this important? Because the US has held itself up as a beacon of morality for centuries. You don’t get to make such claims AND unilaterally break treaties. Forget the bullshit logic of “we’re just doing what you did first” and focus on the current issue-the justification/rationalization of ‘Manifest Destiny.’ Of course, this meeting is likely heavily fictionalized, but I think Sitting Bull would have come up with a better response. Miles was one of the better officers in the Army, but he was still horrible. After calling the massacre one of the worst slaughters of woman and children in the Army’s history, he backtracked after initially withholding his endorsement for several of the Medals of Honor given to soldiers. Alas, no worries. Sheridan was far worse. If I ever see that guy’s grave, I’ll probably piss all over it.
@nicholasrodriguez4990
3 жыл бұрын
@@Phineas1626 War and conquest are a part of human history, colonel miles was just pointing out Sitting Bulls and the other Native Americans hypocrisy you think when American Indians conquered land from each other they put each other onto reservations? No they exterminated the entire tribe, the European Americans showed more mercy towards them then what they ever showed towards each other I’m sorry if it triggers you
@nicholasrodriguez4990
3 жыл бұрын
@@Phineas1626 Of course it’s justified manifest destiny war and conquest are apart of humanity accept it
@775758
4 жыл бұрын
The person who wrote this script is genius. I can guarantee he/she went through several versions to get that speech as perfect as possible. Then to top it off with, "This is Truth, NOT legend!" It's very hard to argue that point!
@MrBooYa-yd5er
Жыл бұрын
He
@marcorocha5380
Жыл бұрын
mic 🎤 drop
@tfree7273
Жыл бұрын
@Moaul-ve9ve dont forget the Bolshevik jews killing millions of white christians before ww2. The holomodor. Also dont forget the fact that the jews were kicked out of over a hundred countries before Hitler got his hands on them.
@Outlier999
11 ай бұрын
@Moaul-ve9veNative American tribes practiced genocide also. What was done to them they did to other Native Americans.
@hungsolow7090
10 ай бұрын
Definitely a He
@VB-dp1vs
4 жыл бұрын
There's no way they would allow this scene to be made today
@roknroller6052
3 жыл бұрын
Remember Censorship, Exposes and suppresses, Truth. Not lies...
@donkosco3574
3 жыл бұрын
WHO ALLOWS ART? YOu are SO FUll of Shit.
@VB-dp1vs
3 жыл бұрын
@@donkosco3574 Great rebuttal
@rainbowthesaurus6253
3 жыл бұрын
Why not? I think it would be more likely that this film would be shown with better results today. From what I understand for all of the old people calling young people snowflakes and thinking they retain some sort of originality they sure do forget how much music, films, and even books could banned just due to maybe a few swear words in them or if it, discovered the creator was gay or something of the sort, or had a differing ideology, something I've seen happen much less in today's environment. But suddenly we are the sensative ones, and than my generation and people close to it get to start their young adult years with a nearly early depression as if we aren't already handling something more controversial than a film, helping to provide for sick or a nearly broke household. I mean you'd think in a day in age where the sky is still orange and bits of ash are falling in the west coast you nostalgia junkies would quit trying to get your fix.
@sevenproxies4255
3 жыл бұрын
@@rainbowthesaurus6253 Yes, you are oversensitive snowflakes who demand that any piece of fiction get banned or changed because you deem it to be "problematic". You are wimps that need to grow a pair.
@sgtmac46
Жыл бұрын
“You conquered those tribes, lusting for their game and their lands, just as we have now conquered you for no less noble a cause!” Bingo!
@quotaaseity5742
10 ай бұрын
Sounds about white
@nicholasrodriguez4990
7 ай бұрын
@@quotaaseity5742WHITE ENVY
@KnownNiche1999
4 ай бұрын
What was your point?
@highonlife2323
4 ай бұрын
@@KnownNiche1999 people say white people are evil. if the Chinese sailed the oceans and landed in America they'd conquer the land just the same, for no less noble a cause
@dp5475
4 ай бұрын
@@KnownNiche1999who are you addressing that to?
@Tadicuslegion78
Жыл бұрын
The Lakota: The Black Hills belong to us, given by the great spirit. The Crow and Cheyenne: You stole them from us in the 1760s-70s.
@DonnellPrince
2 ай бұрын
The Crows are cowards, and sellouts. They love the blonde hair blue eye devil. 💩💩💩💩💩💩Head Crow.
@Jack_Silas
3 жыл бұрын
As an Umóⁿhoⁿ or in otherwise Omaha Native American myself, this was sometimes hard to watch or hear but even now I cannot deny the truth of Colonel Miles’ words.
@chaffee87
Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry my friend for the past.But you are also 100 percent American like the rest of us now. Love ya and thank you. I'd give my life and fight beside you anyday my friend.
@freemason4979
Жыл бұрын
@@chaffee87 U sir, R a gentleman and a scholar. The only thing missing from the officors speech is that there was one diffirence. The Europepeans offered a way forward open to the indians. Join us, work, use our system. And many indians did, and became prosperous. I go further. I think no native american would like to go back to the ways of his ancestors.
@xano2921
Жыл бұрын
@@freemason4979debatable
@hungsolow7090
10 ай бұрын
@@freemason4979 a freemason Indian ??
@hungsolow7090
10 ай бұрын
@@freemason4979 , using barbaric logic to kill and invade peoples homes and steal thier land and you swallowed it 🤣🤣 , what if i used that same logic on my next door neighbor?
@nitrateodin
2 жыл бұрын
"Now, Sitting Bull... I would like to present you with FBI crime statistics and the Crime Victimization Survey."
@rcnelson
5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if any movie made now could contain what this scene shows.
@khalilderbali6628
4 жыл бұрын
Actually there is it's name is bury "my heart at the wounded knee"
@ericengland5158
4 жыл бұрын
To much reeeeee
@realnova7429
4 жыл бұрын
they could not
@donaquilaschannel2890
4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they got away with it when this movie came out tbh
@totallynotalpharius2283
4 жыл бұрын
Yes of course it could . Jesus Christ
@torreeric499
2 жыл бұрын
Probably the most interesting movie dialogue between two men I have seen. Both guys sit down talk and declare each of their points very well. Love both the actors in this scene and their acting...
@ryananthony2604
Жыл бұрын
What movie is this?
@torreeric499
Жыл бұрын
@@ryananthony2604 Its Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee...
@DukeSilverRS
10 ай бұрын
Sitting Bull had no point.
@user-rs5rq1nu1l
5 ай бұрын
All Strawman arguments, BUT, THE FACT HE DID CALL OUT THE U.S. GOV./MLTRY In Giving Them The GUNS N POWDER TO WIPE OUT The other Tribes In Minosota/ (send In THE LAKOTA SIOUX to do THE DIRTY -WORK/HEAVY LIFTING Still not a Great Argument, they obliged.
@scowlinsun
7 жыл бұрын
This is a good scene. No one is right, no one is wrong - they're just equal in the worst way. It's very human. The fact that Sitting Bull is in denial of this is troubling, but so is the fact that Miles is completely okay with what he's doing. They're two sides of the same coin - the only difference is that one of them doesn't know it.
@freestate208
7 жыл бұрын
Very well said.
@CLM1987
7 жыл бұрын
I think as far as Miles being ok with is goes, its more of him trying to justify it since Sitting Bull denied any wrong doing by his people so Miles in his own mind atleast shouldnt be held accountable.
@vladimirdragonov
7 жыл бұрын
MCZerky and the one admits it
@lylack1
6 жыл бұрын
That is well said. Our species have been around for a little more than a hundred thousand years. We became the dominant species over the many different other species of human. We're an animal desperately trying to figure it out and trying not to wipe each other out. I don't give a damn what anyone says. Humans are by far more interesting on Earth than any other species of this planet.
@sevenproxies4255
6 жыл бұрын
Except they're not "Equal". The white man was more successful at these things than the dirt worshipper were. :)
@Gorilder
8 жыл бұрын
Human history in a nutshell
@patrickwhitedirt2808
7 жыл бұрын
Gorilder they fought and scalped custer so they did fight hard. thats why im still here telling u this
@Cash4gold84
7 жыл бұрын
Patrick Whitedirt And that's why we do honor your people unlike other groups
@anthonynguyen2219
6 жыл бұрын
Jay Bannon and now its american land
@tonylast9181
6 жыл бұрын
History is written by the winners
@sevenproxies4255
6 жыл бұрын
Human history in a nutshell: All humans wage war and conquer eachothers lands. But whites are just plain better at it than everyone else. ;)
@douglasmurphy1113
5 жыл бұрын
Bro... That single speech just made me change my entire outlook on the conquering of native lands that I've believed for 20 years... Because he was true.
@rinzler9171
2 жыл бұрын
It is a shame that it takes a dramatized movie to wake so many up, when people could have just read books growing up and recognized this earlier, so that in the culture we have today this wouldn't even be a question, just an acknowledged fact .
@hungsolow7090
10 ай бұрын
You've swallowed barbaric logic as justification to invade , murder , and steal another mans property, what would happen if i used that same logic on my next door neighbor ?
@skylerbergeron7453
10 ай бұрын
@@hungsolow7090it’s not so much a barbaric logic as it is the common denominator among all mankind. Hold your ground or be conquered by your foe man.
@ME-pb2gf
9 ай бұрын
You don't get to claim property with no defined borders or written code of law. That's called anything goes. When you want "anything goes" and then cry like a beeotch when things don't go your way it just proves you were always weak and have earned the outcome.
@steroidbaggins2936
7 ай бұрын
@@hungsolow7090you would get arrested, because you aren’t the power of the land, even your own property. The laws of conquest apply to the strongest entities in the given area. If this was 1780, and you and your neighbor lived in the middle of nowhere with no government oversight, sure, you could conquer and take his land, and no one would do anything about it, but we don’t live back then, and we don’t live in a time where you can escape government reach. The strongest entity on your property isn’t you, it’s your government, hence why you can’t conquer shit, and the government can. If you don’t believe me, look up eminent domain.
@JOKACRAZY
4 жыл бұрын
"the proposition that you were a peaceable people before the appearance of the white man is the most fanciful legend of all"... Truth
@25ilu
Жыл бұрын
what is with you useful idiots and thinking genocide and skirmish are on the same level at all? I should kick you like a dog for saying that
@reharl4953
4 жыл бұрын
Real talk, Miles at this point in his career was a decorated war veteran of both the Civil War and earlier campaigns against the Comanche, Kiowa, Southern Cheyenne, and Arapaho. Sitting Bull had fought in three battles. The difference in real world combat experience between these two men was pretty vast.
@brianschwatka3655
3 жыл бұрын
I would say a difference between idealist(sitting bull) who sees the world through rose colored glasses, and a realists(General Miles) who sees the world as it is.
@reharl4953
3 жыл бұрын
@@brianschwatka3655 A product of his experience.
@MrSinister718
2 жыл бұрын
One's a detached savage, and the other is classy hero.
@kayfrenly5460
Жыл бұрын
@Danny Tallmage Yeah, that was the only possible way to ever carve out some land against the weight of a nation united. Lessons that were learned on the large continents elsewhere in the world through thousands of years of conflict and countless civilizations ended. The story of the indians is not a unique one, only recent.
@SokiHime
Жыл бұрын
@@MrSinister718 True and factual. A simpleton savage.
@roknroller6052
3 жыл бұрын
"There are two different types of people in the world, Those who want to know, and those who want to believe" Nietzsche
@RankaZer0
2 жыл бұрын
What a shit quote written in bad faith
@MinhNguyen-pk9qk
2 жыл бұрын
@@RankaZer0 That quote sounds pretty spot on. People would prefer not to know the hard ugly truth.
@codyerickson3550
4 жыл бұрын
Colonel Miles dropping red pills left and right. 😂
@muddyhotdog4103
4 жыл бұрын
YOU !! Report to the gulags for re-education and hormone "therapy"
@enderis526
3 жыл бұрын
"Now, Chief Sitting Bull, I'd like to bring up the latest FBI crime statistics - by race, of course"
@ashkash8686
3 жыл бұрын
Then he starts dropping lead pills
@Sercer25
3 жыл бұрын
Redpill= historical fact/truth of a subject matter. How amazing is it that in just a few decades, media and education institutes have demolished the foundations of truth and what we believe as fact vs fiction today. They have completely subverted not just the United States, but the entire world's perspective.
@SilencedButNotForgotten
3 жыл бұрын
Damn right!
@lepadus7926
5 жыл бұрын
The acting, the screen writing, and the cinematography were A plus!
@SJam491
5 жыл бұрын
This should be required viewing in every U.S. History class throughout the NYC public school system.
@adudewithabetsyrossflag8125
2 жыл бұрын
Forget just NYC, every school in the country should have this video in their US history classes.
@nicholasrodriguez4990
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao! NYC?? This should be on display all over America
@ShadNex
Жыл бұрын
We are watching it in Advanced Placement United States History in cali
@Keiji555
11 ай бұрын
@@nicholasrodriguez4990 Hear, hear. Canadians could stand to learn from this. As much as I like Tecumseh, he was far more honest than Sitting Bull. He actually was willing to acknowledge he wanted to create a native nation, and make deals with the British. It was actually brought before the courts in London itself, and debated, however, Sir Isaac Brock died, and his successor wasn't really a fan of Tecumseh. But Sitting Bull was in complete denial.
@evos3754
3 ай бұрын
In your dreams.
@pandamilkshake
10 ай бұрын
As a Spaniard, I hate it when people try to make us feel bad about South America too. As if the Aztecs and the rest were some earth-loving peaceful hippies before our ancestors arrived...
@Baebon6259
8 ай бұрын
because it is easier for them to point fingers rather than thinking.
@JessicaAdams-eh9hv
3 ай бұрын
As a germanic descendant, Rome conquered us both to some degree. None of us are crying about it now.
@98dodgediesel5
2 ай бұрын
As a spaniard too, i agree
@pandamilkshake
2 ай бұрын
@@JessicaAdams-eh9hv Spain was conquered by the Moors for *700 years* until we kicked them out in 1492 and in that same year we discovered America. So yes, we were colonised by Africans before we colonised America...but nobody seems to remember that and how they enslaved our people either, they only remember what we did right after, it's embarrassing.
@darrelljohnson1319
5 жыл бұрын
“Chief Sitting Bull, the proposition that you were a peaceable people before the appearance of the white man is the most fanciful legend of all! You were killing each other for hundreds of moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent. You conquered those tribes, lusting for their game and their lands. Just as we have now conquered you for no less noble a cause.” should be carved in stone as eternal truth
@crackerjackmattmilsim3052
4 жыл бұрын
Darrell Johnson “IT IS THE TRUTH! NOT LEGEND!”
@bumblingbureaucrat6110
4 жыл бұрын
@ Like what happened when the Sioux conquered the Black Hills and like how they themselves were driven out of Minnesota?
@tenderthoughts
4 жыл бұрын
@Leftist Hunter They did when they were handed rifles.
@aquamarine2416
4 жыл бұрын
cause the white induce them don't come with stories
@janiredgun7443
4 жыл бұрын
But it’s not. Driving people out of land isn’t war in a sense where it makes sense to the typical us soldier. That’s just migration, as a soldier of the us, they were accustomed to total war. Which isn’t a method of war for the native people. Homicide was hardly a motive when going to war, you must understand. And the Chief is right, the whites armed the Indians and probably encouraged them (they did a lot of instigation, due to their western expansion) therefore it it very clear it is wrong to assume Indians murdered each other in the droves of his assumption. This isn’t truth, it is human nature. But the truth of the plot is that white people, particularly americans. Are responsible for the many conflicts in the plains. And even in the Middle East today. But history tends to fly over dence white americans.
@carantanianfella4035
3 ай бұрын
“I’m a native American” “Which tribe?” “Anglo-Saxon”
@straitjacket8689
7 жыл бұрын
Truth fucking hurts dont it?
@cuahtemoc7642
5 жыл бұрын
Well guess what Mexicans are becoming majority so are Asians. They taking the poor white Mens land how cruel but is ok. Natives did it to eachother.
@cuahtemoc7642
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlackRose85789 Are you Fucking stupid? The majority of People on welfera are black and whites and no one wants you to be scared budy Just dont play the victim.
@beyou3318
4 жыл бұрын
What movie is this ?
@BlackRose85789
4 жыл бұрын
@@cuahtemoc7642 hahaha, so it's ok for non white to play the victim but when someone who isn't and is accused of doing so it's wrong? Truth fucking hurts when you know that you have no claims, no back up, not even evidence. I think just pure jealousy that whites have done better things then some non white folk. But since you need proof on who's on welfare. I'm sure this video and the numbers will explain it all. kzitem.info/news/bejne/rHx9lqWvsqKhl4o
@cuahtemoc7642
4 жыл бұрын
@@BlackRose85789 hahaha look at Europe now fool full of Middle Easterns. USA full of Asians immigrants. Your day welcome buddy don't worry. But please don't act like you don't deserve what you're getting.
@peteholmes1652
7 жыл бұрын
this scene is truth. wrong or right doesn't matter when it comes to these things. if you're hungry you're going to find a way to eat, and if anyone gets in your way you'll remove them. this is all of human history . there are no Good guys when there isnt enough for everyone.
@justinm1721
7 жыл бұрын
very true.
@SuperGraficas
7 жыл бұрын
That reasoning -among others- is why humans are going extinct.
@arrocoda3590
7 жыл бұрын
lol your future for humanity will cause our extinction anyway, and the loss of individuality
@FoulMouthActual
6 жыл бұрын
Preach
@peteholmes1652
6 жыл бұрын
i'm actually 25% native myself
@Tadicuslegion78
3 жыл бұрын
A whole slew of college professors: *triggered*
@ItsMeScareCro
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@MrRamazanLale2
16 күн бұрын
Jewish professors
@ianfleischhacker6154
3 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to say, if that's a historically accurate conversation then Chief Sitting Bull deserves massive respect for his English skills.
@rinzler9171
2 жыл бұрын
There may have been translators present. Doesn't detract from the truth of the words in it.
@rakuencallisto
2 жыл бұрын
THAT'S what you took from this scene!? His fucking made up English skills? Holy shit this new generation is daft and fucked.
@reharl4953
Жыл бұрын
The actual Sitting Bull spoke English, like most Sioux in the mid-1800s. Also, fun fact, his birth name was "Jumping Badger".
@FortniteBlaster2
Жыл бұрын
@@rinzler9171 So this was a real conversation?
@nachtderuntoten3682
10 ай бұрын
@@FortniteBlaster2The conversation did happen to my knowledge but whether what was spoken in the movie actual happened in reality, I highly doubt it.
@RobertPage562
5 жыл бұрын
all human races have blood on their hands. My Celtic ancestors have done horrible things to each other and other peoples just as the native Americans have done to each other. There is no human race with clean hands
@johncantrell9993
4 жыл бұрын
I have ancestors of every people group who are considered native to Britain and my Saxon ancestors killed and enslaved my Celtic ancestors, then later my Norman ancestors came and conquered and butchered my Saxon Ancestors, I also have some Norwegian and Danish ancestors who came and conquered the Danelaw in England and the Orkneys in Scotland, and groups of my Scottish and English ancestors drove them out. It's the cycle of history, no people group hasn't been a victim and no people group hasn't been an oppressor. We have done a disservice with oversimplified history.
@SolarDragon007
3 жыл бұрын
@@johncantrell9993 It's almost like people should stop being resentful about history and just treat each other with the same kindness/respect they would want to be given by others.
@WatcherOfShadows
3 жыл бұрын
But modern people with pretty cushy lives have appointed themselves judges of all humanity past and present... Given the proud human mutt that I am. I have blood from both sides two major genocides. The holocaust, I include Polish Jew and German from my mother's side. And the trail of tears as I have English and Cherokee ancestry from my fathers side. So, yea..
@MrJustonemorevoice
3 жыл бұрын
Celtics kept the severed heads of their enemies as yard decorations, then again everyone was constantly trying to murder them for their land so...
@raffaelenicoletta1033
3 жыл бұрын
No one is saying there is, but people have the right to their ancestral lands. We do in Europe and Indigenous people do here. It’s about the land and the justification to take more from those who have less than you, so you can have more. How perverse.
@khfan4life365
4 жыл бұрын
Let’s be real, everyone conquered everyone. Europeans conquered other Europeans, Indians conquered Indians, Asians conquered Asians, Africans conquered Africans. It’s just human nature. People act like the Norman conquest didn’t happen or Genghis Khan wasn’t a conquering warlord. 🤷🏻♀️
@WakingMajority
4 жыл бұрын
People that hate America do not understand that unending war and slavery was the norm UNTIL America. It birthed this dangerous and infectious virus called freedom. You are not a subject. You are a citizen. Even those we conquer become citizens. Look at our relationship with our former enemies. Japan and Germany. America is Righteous. And it is all the world has got.
@D0nnyy
4 жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with Genghis Khan
@D0nnyy
4 жыл бұрын
@Troy Ralph Alldis true but that does not justify a genocide
@D0nnyy
4 жыл бұрын
@Troy Ralph Alldis I'm talking about north american tribes
@rustyrussell2537
4 жыл бұрын
@@D0nnyy the Blackfoot and Crow are tribes of North America.
@OkStelios
5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much what Miles is telling Bull is that the Americans are doing exactly what they’ve been doing to their own people for years and years, but better.
@TheAaronChand
3 жыл бұрын
But that logic doesn't justify settler clonialsim people fighting each other on there own continent is completely different from settler clonialsim.
@Phineas1626
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAaronChand So you’re objecting on the grounds of relevance? Sustained.
@nicholasrodriguez4990
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAaronChand Of course it does war conquest are a part of human history the strong conquer the weak
@creamychoclatelobsterwarri979
3 жыл бұрын
Did they not settle on the land they conquered?
@Pumper_of_Maws
2 жыл бұрын
@@creamychoclatelobsterwarri979 Yes. As much as native activists would beg to differ that is colonialism. The likes of modern warrior sees no equivalence. It’s bad when the white man conquers native land and settles there but it’s fine when a native does the same thing to another tribe. The native tribes conquered land and fought until they became the conquered themselves. And the cycle repeats itself
@Indubidably0
6 жыл бұрын
The myth of the noble savage needs to die.
@jasoncano527
6 жыл бұрын
Jerry Atric we weren't noble, but we sure as hell weren't savage
@chiefsittingbull5276
6 жыл бұрын
Jerry Atric We are no savages
@jonneyboy001
5 жыл бұрын
@Voornaam Achternaam what makes them savage tho I'm confused...because we didn't use forks...or how our women gave birth with out screaming or crying.or is it the fact we dont believe and bible that was written by man and changed multiple times about this "god" or "jesus" fellow..I dont see nothing savage about us...we used all and every part of an animal that we killed
@jonneyboy001
5 жыл бұрын
@John R right they are privileged...just the other day...that dude who built a 200 pound bomb for DC gets 20 years if convicted...notice I said if...there words after he admitted.....20 fucking years but I know a black kid I grew up with got 25 years for selling just weed....weed only and only has 1 dwi from when he was 18...10 years ago...smh...all these public shooting...they plead insanity but one person of color shoots but dont kill the person gets life for attempted murder...smh our system is busted like a hill billy's teeth lol
@halfhalf9148
5 жыл бұрын
@@chiefsittingbull5276 dont call your self Chief Sitting Bull that's disrespectful.
@howardmctroy3303
Жыл бұрын
This is a nuanced and intelligently written scene. Two men from different worlds, but who're similar to each other in their pride, their determination to argue their position, and the role they play in the great game of war and civilization.
@gtgators88
7 жыл бұрын
"Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee"
@alvarohiguera2163
5 жыл бұрын
Entierra Mi Corazon en Wounded Knee
@silverford2005f150
5 жыл бұрын
Wounded knee Doesn't make the top two of madsacares
@jay5649
6 жыл бұрын
This says it all. Anyone that does not recognize what Col Miles is saying, is just plain foolish.
@edwidgewhatsosons1727
5 жыл бұрын
limited facts create logical fallacies and moral false equivalencies.
@dutchvanderlinde5004
5 жыл бұрын
Nothing either of them said is wrong. Doesn’t make it right but facts don’t have morals and they don’t care about your feelings.
@edwidgewhatsosons1727
5 жыл бұрын
@@dutchvanderlinde5004 It is factually wrong that the Souix committed genocide against their own race. They may have committed several massacres but never exterminated an entire tribe. Native Americans always would take survivors and naturalize them, actually that's where the USA got the concept of naturalization of immigrants. The facts are that everyone is going to die. The guns were the weapon that allowed for the massacres. There were no mass slaughtering of people before the whites came to the continent. Expansionism was taught by the Empires of Europe. Not the nations of America.
@buzinaocara
5 жыл бұрын
@@edwidgewhatsosons1727 the natives taught the english how to incorporate the surviving conquered? Sure it wasn't the dozens of past empires to exist in europe which did the same for millenia?
@edwidgewhatsosons1727
5 жыл бұрын
@@buzinaocara Empires and Aristocrats had a memory of survival skills and hunting that the peasants and serfs did not. The colonies were not Aristocrats besides a few notable figures like Roger Williams and a few Governors who still knew what natural laws and common law originated from in the Nordic countries. Yes, there was a brotherhood in the Aristocracy and the Tribal peoples. This is why they made treaties and married into each other's families. The Cherokee notably would check the hands and feet to ensure that they were marrying blue bloods. It is very common knowledge that American Indians like Joseph Brant were in the Masons and the indigenous people held a form of government and shared many values in common with the secret societies. The difference here is that in the Native American societies every person was a trained fighter, survivor, and could start a new band or clan without much help at all from anyone else. They had skills to fight and do medicine. They could make bread out of wheatgrass. In the South Americas they invented Rubber and back in Europe the peasants many times revolted at the sight of seeing a returning Conquestador wearing clothing that repelled the rain. What idiots those Europeans were!
@RogerName7
7 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me that Indian tribes in North America were slaughtering each other for thousands of years before the first European set foot on the continent, but yet it was only bad when the "White man" conquered areas there.
@chaosXP3RT
6 жыл бұрын
Antiochus IV Epiphanese the Europeans didn't either. It was disease that killed most of the Native Americans. A thing that neither was really capable of stopping.
@chaosXP3RT
6 жыл бұрын
Antiochus IV Epiphanese Really? That analogy can be used for when the Natives we're pushed on to Reservations, but before that? The minute Europeans stepped foot in the Americas and traded with the Natives, the Natives started dying. This was hundreds of years before Europeans and Whites even knew what bacteria was so they could start handing out smallpox blankets. Native Americans and Europeans treated each other the exact same way they treated other groups when they first met. Everyone was racist back then and everything was racially motivated. Native Americans didn't slaughter European settlements because the Europeans were genocidal racists. They did it because they hated white people who were competing for land and resources.
@carpentryfirst3048
6 жыл бұрын
matthew gallaway Hitler never blamed Jews for his defeat. Where are you getting this from? And the Vietnam war was rigged from the start by capitalist fucks.thebus entered because of the gulf of Tonkin incident which was revealed after the war to never have happened. The us was made to follow war laws that put them at a huge disadvantage against the Viennese soldiers who didn’t have the same laws to follow. The laws were debatably written to keep the war going longer than it should have. War generates unprecedented amounts of wealth. So you should read more. Just saying :)
@carpentryfirst3048
6 жыл бұрын
Antiochus IV Epiphanese where is your information coming from. You seem to be claiming a lot of things that nobody alive today could possibly know. Www.imright.com? You are so full of shit I’m gonna call you Johnny
@carpentryfirst3048
6 жыл бұрын
Aquila who land? Indian is a very broad term. So anyone with brown skin and a Feather? Brah, that’s fuckin racist
@2meniacal
6 жыл бұрын
Also, keep these things in mind. Horses were brought over by the Spanish, and the guns the "natives" are holding were also brought over by Europeans. They were not peaceful people who just lived off the land. They also were trying to conquer, but Europeans were more advanced, organized and successful .
@thomaseastmond7184
4 жыл бұрын
@Cali God So are you just disregarding the thousands upon thousands of non Aztec Natives that fought for the Spanish to bring down the Aztecs?
@n0m4nic
3 жыл бұрын
@Cali God That's really a piss poor understanding of what transpired to collapse the Aztec Empire. The Spanish didn't really have much to do with it beyond Cortes was a Spaniard. He was not intended to have been the leader of the third expedition into the Yucatan and was to be arrested had he not engaged legal maneuvers to declare himself a magistrate. The fact that these lesser tribes allied with him was not coincidental either. His expedition was to make alliances with these tribes, all of whom had legitimate grievances with the Aztecs that made them vassal states. They didn't assist, they were allies of Cortes that planned with overthrowing the empire that was using them for human sacrificial offerings. This was in fact jeopardized by the Spanish when they sent another fleet to recuse and recall him, forcing him to take Moctezuma hostage. After Moctezuma's death and Cortes's initial retreat, the Aztecs could not sure up the loyalties of their tributaries and many of them would support Spanish conquest.
@n0m4nic
3 жыл бұрын
@Cali God Was it though? While there are more that share native lineage, few share any actual heritage. The Aztec revival movement provided an ethnic identity that is very vaguely of Aztec tradition. Furthermore, comparing that to the US is impractical as the US gene pool is far more diverse from years of very open immigration policies. With the number of first, second, and third generation citizens, its rarer to find native ancestry. This is even further complicated as many tribes refuse to be referenced in genetic testing, making the method to determine lineage complicated and inaccurate.
@n0m4nic
3 жыл бұрын
@Cali God Yes, and my point was that US immigration has brought in many citizens with no ties to either natives or English colonists and that because tribes do not participate in genealogy sampling, that 1% is not reliable.
@mzmadmike
3 жыл бұрын
@@n0m4nic Yeah, the Aztec empire had only been around about a century when the Spanish arrived. It was established, but it wasn't some multi-dynastic monolith.
@carantanianfella4035
3 жыл бұрын
No people have any "right" to a land, your claim only holds up if you can defend it. If you lose your land in battle, it's not yours. It's that simple.
@Phineas1626
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. And the only things missing from your philosophy are the things that matter most.
@carantanianfella4035
3 жыл бұрын
@@Phineas1626 which are?
@Phineas1626
3 жыл бұрын
@@carantanianfella4035 Which are all those things that answer the question: what kind of person are you? Empathy. Compassion. Grace.
@carantanianfella4035
3 жыл бұрын
@@Phineas1626 these are indeed great virtues, but they only count if one *practices* them in their personal life. On a wider scale, they're unsustainable. The empathy, compassion and grace you show to the Indians is completely useless. It's easy to condemn Manifest Destiny, something you have no effect on whatsoever. It's a completely different thing to actually help those around you.
@Phineas1626
3 жыл бұрын
@@carantanianfella4035 I don’t have any control over China’s subjugation of Uighur Muslims either. Or the gun violence in Chicago. I condemn it not because it’s easy, but because by any objective standard, it’s wrong. There were people who had great control over “Manifest Destiny.” They were the citizens of this country, who, by their choice of elected leaders, chose their course of action. I understand the argument that people simply act in accord with their own self-interest. But if that is to be the baseline of the ethical standard the United States is going to defend, it makes for a tough sell when we express contempt for those who do the same. Without such contempt, it’s simply a race to the bottom, with the only recourse being to lament that someone had more might. You won’t be surprised to learn that I don’t find compassion “completely useless.” What is sustainable is up to all of us. Nobody would recognize me as the owner of your land if I were to take it from you by force. Our legal system-through your collective neighbors-would impel me to return it. And that’s putting it nicely. Incidentally, the same thing happened in World War II.
@o.h2202
3 жыл бұрын
these 2 and half minutws are 1000x times better that last season of GoT
@boid9761
2 жыл бұрын
'Who gave us the weapons?" Bruh you'd kill each other with bows and stone tomahawks anyway. It don't matter
@chrismauck4083
Жыл бұрын
A surprising response. They lost the argument at that point
@marcose1137
6 жыл бұрын
Goddamn, this might have just changed my opinion on history...
@BlackRose85789
5 жыл бұрын
Remember, knowledge is power. Always read both sides of history. Not a one sided bullshit description through the eyes of one voice but many, even those who are dead.
@BlackRose85789
5 жыл бұрын
Then I was confused and thought that was being directed at me. So I apologize for that.@Snaggle Toothed
@edwidgewhatsosons1727
5 жыл бұрын
You can't see that it's propaganda? The eight stages of genocide are classification, symbolization, dehumanization, organization, polarization, preparation, extermination, and denial.
@sondraewoodruff7078
5 жыл бұрын
That's how propaganda works. Its design to inhabit the gullible
@johnnyjohnson1370
5 жыл бұрын
Feels good huh??
@_Cato_
3 жыл бұрын
I am a full-blooded American white man. I do feel bad for what was done to the Native Americans; it was a terrible thing. However, the truth here is that they were not innocent spirits, they were human just like everyone else: capable of great cruelty and malice. The fact that people want to pretend that humanity is something it isn’t is worrying
@californiacombativesclub202
2 жыл бұрын
You kinda don’t feel like that. And We are still feeling the affects of white imperialism not indigenous warfare.
@_Cato_
2 жыл бұрын
@@californiacombativesclub202 Ah, right, the effects of white imperialism, such as civilization, the industrial revolution, modern technology, everything that makes your miserable life comfortable.
@graymikep64
2 жыл бұрын
Stop with white guilt asshole.. You didn't listen enough.. Dunbass
@themilkman8554
2 жыл бұрын
What movie is this from?
@tariqnasneed3857
2 жыл бұрын
@@californiacombativesclub202 You don't feel the effects of indigenous warfare because the White man put an end to it.
@sydlawson3181
3 жыл бұрын
Two great cultures meeting, each entirely too married to their own notions to ever consider the others. *Reminds me of this comment section.*
@jonathanwoodvincent
Жыл бұрын
@Huwhite Death no one wins in the end
@Arkasha-Z
3 жыл бұрын
Stuff like this isn't in movies anymore because it contains *facts*
@TannerWilliam07
3 жыл бұрын
I'm American Indian and this video is a lie. We offered Colombus land, food, and shelter and he fed our babies to dogs, cut off women's genitals, and hacked men to death. So it went as your forefathers went on, then you called us savages and made up the lie we were just like you: savages. We made agreements with other tribes for land use and played sports games. Stop colonizating history
@TheFofotron
2 жыл бұрын
@@TannerWilliam07 Stop lying loser. You weren't peaceful. You genocided other tribes. And Columbus was a great man.
@ronaldshank7589
4 жыл бұрын
Whoa! That was truly tense and intense!!! Both Gen. Miles & Sitting Bull have very accurate views of each other.
@mzmadmike
4 жыл бұрын
They got the guns mostly from the French to start with. Your call, Sitting Bull.
@Sul8866
3 жыл бұрын
Did u see the French giving them?
@mzmadmike
3 жыл бұрын
@@Sul8866 The French were the first Europeans there and named much of the area. Fond du Lac, Lacrosse, Faribault, Mills Lacs, Saint Clair, even words like "Prairie" are French. Its official motto is L'Étoile du Nord, French for "The Star of the North". Before European settlement of North America, a subculture of Sioux called the Dakota people lived in Minnesota. The first Europeans in the area were French voyageur fur traders who arrived in the 17th century and began using the Grand Portage to access trapping and trading areas further inland. Around the same time, Anishinaabe (also known as Ojibwe) migrated westward to Minnesota, causing tensions with the Dakota people. Explorers such as Daniel Greysolon, Sieur du Lhut, Father Louis Hennepin, Jonathan Carver, Henry Schoolcraft, and Joseph Nicollet mapped the state. So yes, it's well established that the French traded steel weapons and firearms to the natives in exchange for a variety of goods and services.
@waltersobchak4565
3 жыл бұрын
@@mzmadmike French didn't have lever actions at that time in history. Those are American weapons.
@metalreignz6557
2 жыл бұрын
@@waltersobchak4565 before hand it was french
@Kruegernator123
6 жыл бұрын
Top 10 Most Brutal Beatdowns
@sikepoka5117
3 жыл бұрын
wehraboo spotted
@archieandrews8457
7 жыл бұрын
Back when white people had balls and not cower at the very mention of "racist!".
@chelomejias676
7 жыл бұрын
Hundreds of white were killed and scalped for having "balls"
@electrouser5
7 жыл бұрын
what are you trying to say?
@sevenproxies4255
6 жыл бұрын
Chelo Mejias: Yeah they were. And look who's ruling the country now, while the indian "scalp takers" are relegated to living in reservations as subjects of american rule? :)
@kynaston1474
6 жыл бұрын
We killed well more of you than you did us Chelo and I don't even know what race you actually are. It doesn't really matter though, does it?
@benvad9010
6 жыл бұрын
Chelo Mejias better to die with pride than to live as a cowering coward.
@signaturerush
Жыл бұрын
I love this. As a descendant of both Indigenous peoples and conquistadors I believe it is imperative that we understand that as men we were born to conquer our fellow man. This is the cruel and uncomfortable truth of human nature.
@signaturerush
Жыл бұрын
To add to this, none of our ancestors are free from sin. Though we are not responsible for their actions we are still the product of it. Mexica Tiahui🇲🇽
@03focussvt943
9 ай бұрын
Truth be told, Mexicans invaded and fought Natives long before whites did. Funny how that bit never gets mentioned.
@jakemonster001
6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, what a great scene!
@AlphabetCookie
6 жыл бұрын
I love that actor! He played in Free Willy. Lol finally an accurate telling of history. Stop hating each other, people.
@lifetodamax
2 жыл бұрын
Randolph!
@JD-nr8hf
5 ай бұрын
Amen. And stop tuning it or turning on to the ones trying to make you hate by push notification or a fancy hairdo on teevee reading a teleprompter.
@anniew4105
Жыл бұрын
Conquered, not stolen.
@Jason21012
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t call killing innocent women and children as something to be proud of but go for it
@sparkymmilarky
2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly honest scene Both sides have just causes and brought to an inevitable confrontation. The film portrays the complexities of history very well
@MrsStormtrooper
2 жыл бұрын
What's the name of this movie? It was a freaking wonderful scene
@sparkymmilarky
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrsStormtrooper it's called Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, it's a 2008 HBO TV movie, really recommend it
@MrSinister718
2 жыл бұрын
No, the barbarians have no just cause. They are liars, murderers, rapists, and cannibals. They deserve ZERO sympathy. No one violently genocided them but each other and some sneezes. Maybe spend less time murdering, raping, and smoking peyote, and actual develop some actual medicines. If they claims to live off the land so well, they'd be strong enough to handle illness. LIARS!
@nathanbritenfeld8161
6 жыл бұрын
I'd be the dumbass to fire when it got tense😂
@Airland_combat
3 жыл бұрын
So your the one that went back in time to make the shot heard round the world at Lexington. It wasn't the British, nor the Minutemen. It was you?😂
@Limacy
3 жыл бұрын
@@Airland_combat He did call himself a dumbass.
@Airland_combat
3 жыл бұрын
@@Limacy 😂
@Farmguy1
8 ай бұрын
Truer words never spoken.
@danilovonsquawk572
5 жыл бұрын
"this is the Truth not Legend"
@Hulgore
4 жыл бұрын
Truth is a Legend would reply Nietzsche
@diegos.loayza3706
3 жыл бұрын
@@Hulgore" nietzche is dead" God
@be2keen
6 жыл бұрын
In case anybody didn't know it this scene is historically accurate. It is not the fiction that is typical of Hollywood. Miles had some character flaws but he was willing to meet with Sitting Bull in the field and hash out the issues directly before going into battle. Also, very important, at this point in the Indian Wars the Indians were actually considered to be Americans who were "wards of the state." This is different from pre-Civil War times when the Indians were considered as separate and distinct nations. Anyway, I am heartened to see the truth being told instead of the typical leftist BS that's force-fed to everyone.
@MWarne58
6 жыл бұрын
Warner Bauer So true!
@theIndy0678
6 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. I assume of course that that conception of the native tribes as "wards of the state" was little more than a designation created by a bureaucrat in Washington, and not reflective of what the reality was on the frontier.
@be2keen
6 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed. But if you know the US Constitution then you surely know there is a good reason why the Grant administration changed US policy towards the Indians in that respect. I'll leave it up to you to discover it in case you don't know it. But as you wrote, there was the reality to contend with. As Miles hints at it, and you're surely aware, the reality of the frontier had always been that the Plains Indians (indeed, practically ALL Indian nations) were constantly warring against each other. They were incessantly raiding each other's camps killing as many men as possible and routinely torturing the wounded or captured for amusement and without mercy. They always raped the women before taking them as slaves, kidnapped the children to work as slaves, and apprehended as many ponies and cattle as possible, and so on. Some tribes practiced cannibalism. And when the Mexican settlers arrived they did the same to them and then to the White settlers that had the misfortune to cross their warpaths. There is a reason why many otherwise good and civilized people often openly said that the only good Indian was a dead Indian. But relax as many Indians didn't even like the violent aspects of their culture which exlains why many were happy to "walk the White man's path" and settle down as farmers and traders. And then there were the peaceful tribes like the Pueblos who were happy to see the US Army finally quash the more violent tribes, namely the Navaho and Apaches. So yes, the reality on the frontier was what the reality was. As Miles said, it is the truth. Fortunately the West was civilized before we were born, right?
@someonesomeone2166
2 жыл бұрын
@@be2keen lol I know this is three years old but your comment is full of so much bullshit 🤣. Like you really believe that the native Americans needed to be "civilized"? Tell me what does civilized entail? Especially in the perspective of a native American?
@be2keen
2 жыл бұрын
@@someonesomeone2166 "Civilized" means to not aggressively and without provocation attack your neighbors. "Civilized" means to not torture people for fun and without mercy. There are standards of behavior that apply to everyone on the planet. For example, you should be polite and respect everyone. You should keep yourself and your properties clean and presentable, etc. I suspect you haven't been taught that. Also, I suspect you've been taught the Howard Zinn+Marxist version of history, which is twisted and Satanic in nature.
@rayj.4527
11 ай бұрын
The Colonel was spitting out straight facts.
@JohnDoe-sw1rs
11 ай бұрын
Europeans have had wars for millennia, Muslim refugees are just another migratory group and it’s natural. Allow Europe to be Arab and Islamic.
@bobbobbington3615
11 ай бұрын
@JohnDoe-sw1rs Throughout history the best win... Islam is like the Indians... trash.
@solinvictus4367
6 жыл бұрын
If there is ever a staple to human nature it is the Right of Conquest (the Strong conquer the Weak)
@UnRu1eD
11 ай бұрын
As someone who comes of multi racial blood of Latin, Caucasian, Native, and African. The Officer is right. It is a dark history of the Tribes vs the Union Soldier and no side is innocent by any means. But the Major speaks cold hearted truth. Regardless if you know your history or not. No Native tribe is “Innocent” Every Country, Kingdom, Tribe, Lord, Jarl, King, President, Dictator, Chief etc. All have waged war since the dawn of man. Even in the great Bible it even states war has been existing since the creation of man.
@josealejo4638
5 жыл бұрын
I love this comment section. Glorious.
@GeneralJackRipper
6 ай бұрын
They hated him because he told the truth.
@GIJesse-xo1vl
Жыл бұрын
Be careful, a lot of people can't take facts.
@CoachIreland
3 ай бұрын
Don't hate the players, hate the game.
@mannyn.4241
4 жыл бұрын
I keep watching this because it's so true and raw!!!
@fredsavage22
Жыл бұрын
Except he didn't say this
@louisliu5638
Жыл бұрын
my norwegian grandmother is out of the Black Hills. It wasn't COLD ENOUGH so she met my French Canadian grandfather and they homesteaded in Canada, in NW Ontario, where it's much, much colder!!!! Tough people.
@AlexC-ou4ju
Жыл бұрын
well of course your from french stock, the toughest there is they literally eat pain for breafast.
@bgcvetan
3 жыл бұрын
Even with all blood on his hands, Nelson still has the High Ground of Honesty.
@25ilu
Жыл бұрын
copium
@tris2141
Жыл бұрын
@@25ilu copium
@cameronberra8838
Жыл бұрын
Sitting bull's hands are drenched in blood too.
@geromejohnnygranada
3 жыл бұрын
History is written in blood. Penned by the champions. Accepted by the losers.
@jordandennis6794
2 жыл бұрын
100% accurate. Both sides were savages. Today people love to lie about the past
@RMichaelHimself
3 жыл бұрын
I recommend the movie “hostiles” to anyone who hasn’t seen it. Definitely not PC, surprised it was made in 2017. A bit intense too. But a very powerful story.
@diegos.loayza3706
3 жыл бұрын
I saw it. Nice movie but I prefer The revenant. It's about Indians too.
@dextersmith4600
2 жыл бұрын
I'm watching it now. That's what made me look up this scene. I was hoping it was in hostiles.
@mesomemore97
2 жыл бұрын
It is a great movie. It is not P.C. and that makes it a great movie. Well done.
@TheNightWatcher1385
11 ай бұрын
The harsh truth that few of us like to hear is that inhumanity is actually a *very* human thing.
@averagedude76
4 жыл бұрын
Great acting! I really enjoyed watching every person
@brazilianman92
7 жыл бұрын
This is badass.
@macmackenzie8896
Ай бұрын
I used to have discussions at work with a native American about who rightfully owns America. This colonel miles says it the best I have ever heard.
@mericafirst
Жыл бұрын
This was my conclusions after I took a deep dive into our US history.... America doesn't owe anyone anything but the world owes America everything. 🇺🇸 USA
@novapanda390
3 жыл бұрын
"their people kill buffalo for fun, and they call us savages" - Sitting bull
@mississippirougarou
2 жыл бұрын
His people killed buffalo for fun constantly. They made a whole event out of killing entire herds.
@MaximusWolfe
Жыл бұрын
The Sioux killed human beings without remorse for their lands. Yes, that is savagery.
@iqbalvilglez.7305
8 ай бұрын
@@MaximusWolfeThe savage is the one who kills most in the most sistematized way. Like killing millions of buffalos to lead millions to starvation, killing for hunting lands is bad, but killing to make business is worse.
@michaelwest8311
Жыл бұрын
Although it’s politically incorrect, Colonel Miles speaks the truth. No Indian land had always been that tribes land. There was warring in conquest for hundreds if not thousands of years before the civilized settlers arrived. I personally am a member of the Chickasaw tribe and it is a known fact that there were very few peaceful tribes and almost no peaceful tribes on the great planes.
@Jason21012
Жыл бұрын
It depends. Some native tribes were predatorial, others not so much. Some were settlement based and others were nomadic.
@OctaviousLanton
Ай бұрын
I can't lie this is one of the greatest scenes in history of understanding war from both sides and taking one sides starting without knowing the full truth
@Droemar
3 жыл бұрын
The book is a historical nonfiction. Anyone getting mad at this needs to read more history.
@Tadicuslegion78
2 жыл бұрын
I read the book the Earth is Weeping and the author takes Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee to task because the book treated the tribes that sided with the Americans against their ancestral enemies ie Crow vs Lakota, were traitors worth condemning
@donksta4197
11 ай бұрын
I live in the Black Hills and they are still demanding "their land" back to this day.
@Truly1Tom
6 жыл бұрын
I'm not speaking to the right or wrong of how the wasichu were forcing the Teton Lakota onto reservations, at this point in time, Col. Nelson A. Miles had a "chip on his shoulder" because George Custer had been a close personal friend of his and now he was giving Sitting Bull a harsh dose of reality. That he would hound him from the Canadian border to Mexico or see him and his followers dead on a battlefield. But the wasichu started that war there was no denying that as well as violation of the Ft. Laramie treaty of 1868 giving the Teton Sioux the Great Sioux reservation.
@theseusf147
Жыл бұрын
My great great grandfather Col. Nelson Miles Holderman changed his name from Nebuchadnezzar (Neb) to Nelson Miles Holderman after Col. Nelson Miles when he was 18 . The legacy of men/women go on forever and those who do great things we should cherish. Col. Nelson Miles Holderman received the Medal of Honor and was considered one of the most decorated soldiers of WW1 after naming himself after Col. Nelson Miles another Medal of Honor Recipient. I can't even express how grateful I am for all the brave women and men that have helped build this country. Col. Nelson Miles Holderman's Medal of Honor Citation was featured in the closing scene of the original Manchurian Candidate read by Frank Sanatra, his actions during the battel in the Argonne Forest are also depicted in the move The Lost Battalion. Our country is not perfect and political divisions are great, but if we just take a moment to remember the beauty of what we've built and not attack one another for what/who we believe/worship/love, we might be as one. Our immigrant family's/women/men sacrificed everything so that you could read this freely. The United States of America
@44Magnum6
6 жыл бұрын
Some of these tribes roasted women and children alive and occasionally ate the flesh of their enemies.
@bumblingbureaucrat6110
4 жыл бұрын
I know that the Pawnee at least had some instances of human sacrifice but they were relatively rare/infrequent and I don't recall any reputable accounts of cannibalism amongst North American tribes.
@scatterbrainstudios1143
3 жыл бұрын
Where did you learn this from?
@RankaZer0
2 жыл бұрын
Based
@TheDinosaur900
3 жыл бұрын
Mexico also participated in the Indian Wars, so if they're whining about "stolen" land, they should take a look in the mirror.
@mesomemore97
2 жыл бұрын
Comanche sold Apache to Mexico as slaves. Wiped out some tribes. Not reported on by MSNBC.
@stunner9005
Жыл бұрын
Mexico is worse then the Us, in that they actually committed genocide.
@cincinnaticobra5477
4 күн бұрын
They would never make anything about history this honest anymore
@fasiapulekaufusi6632
9 ай бұрын
This is true and i am indigenious. We weren’t exactly a peaceful people. No nation on earth has a peaceful history.
@user-lm2pl5kg9k
9 ай бұрын
still u were the last vestige of being in touch with the earth so its sad to see that become just a memory
@HITBnn
6 ай бұрын
You’re not fooling anyone, white boy
@PsychoCivic-yw5sp
3 ай бұрын
@@user-lm2pl5kg9kThe idea that natives were "in tune with nature" is a myth created by Hollywood.
@chiefsittingbull5276
6 жыл бұрын
_Behold, my friends, the spring is come; the earth has gladly received the embraces of the sun, and we shall soon see the results of their love!_
@standingbull7685
3 жыл бұрын
I used to sit, now I stand
@ryan4327
3 жыл бұрын
The moral is, people are people no matter where you go or who you identify as. Revisionist history has this notion of "the noble savage" by leftists who have no clue what they're talking about, which also results in diminishing, infantalizing, and dehumanizing the very ones they claim to be speaking up for. This goes for virtually all modern "social justice" movements which really have little to do with social justice and mostly to do with power, dominance, and totalitarian dictatorship. Needless to say, these same leftists wouldn't last a day during those times and around those people. That this kind of show couldn't be made today is a testament to revisionist history and the far left's penchant for violent totalitarianism. They've caused far more damage with their ignorance, illiberalism, and self-absorbtion than anything the ones they whine about have ever done. As it's been said, one plumber is worth 100 revolutionaries, and you won't find many far leftist plumbers.
@peterwang5660
2 жыл бұрын
Leftists haven’t done any bad shit but bring up your imperfections and make you angry. Ironic that you are whining about whining
@pseudomastix2916
5 жыл бұрын
Why can't we all just sit down together and get along?
@PsychologicalCynic
3 жыл бұрын
Because life happens, and living gets in the way.
@IHateThisHandleSystem
Жыл бұрын
What a refreshingly anti-woke scene.
@ShadowSonic2
Жыл бұрын
If you paid attention, the Colonel openly admits he's an Imperialistic Violent Conqueror too. He's not trying to justify White Man Supremacy at all.
@IHateThisHandleSystem
Жыл бұрын
@@ShadowSonic2 Yeah, no shit. Thus its being refreshingly anti-woke. Anything based on truth and reality is anti-woke.
@ShadowSonic2
Жыл бұрын
@@IHateThisHandleSystem You use Boogeyman words like "Woke", you lose credibility. Truth and Reality support "Wokeness", that's what outdated old fools can't stand. Something "Anti-Woke" is stuff like how Interracial Relationships is wrong.
@caledonianamerican41
Жыл бұрын
I'm an American nationalist, and I agree with Nelson's claims, but that doesn't mean that the brutality of the White man was acceptable, nor does it mean that the brutality of the Indians was acceptable, either. All this shows is that all peoples are just people: draped in beauty, culture, wisdom, but also greed, hate, violence and ignorance. White or red; East or West, doesn't matter
@PsychoCivic-yw5sp
2 ай бұрын
Conquest is the way of things. Though I guess the issue is that the US both broke treaties and went way above simply annexing territory. Like contonuing to beat up someone who already surrendered and accepted defeat. I love the usa but it's a dick move in all honesty. The right by conquest is valid. But like all rights, there should be rules. Otherwise, you get things like imperial Japan.
@OsamaBinLooney
8 ай бұрын
the problem is people get upset because of the victim Olympics so they overlook the savagery of the native tribes towards each other because the Europeans did it "better" this somehow makes them worse, and because the Europeans came out on top this somehow excuses the natives for everything they did previously both sides are human, the natives weren't some other species that the Europeans conquered as far as i'm concerned they were just the latest "tribe" to come out on top on land which had already been stole 20 times over before the first white man even stepped foot on the continent they aren't any more guilty OR righteous than the natives
@AmericanMadeMud
7 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me the name of this film?
@AmericanMadeMud
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@Carlton_Wilson
6 жыл бұрын
Nelson A. Miles handed Sitting Bull his ass on a platter.
@aekzorba7145
Жыл бұрын
Oh ya just love to see it. Inject this video into my veins.
@chrisbolland5634
Жыл бұрын
I love that both sides are right, and have complete justification for anger. This is such a complicated and morally grey area of our history. props for portraying it well.
@MrYfrank14
Жыл бұрын
I have always agreed with what the Colonel was saying. The native Americans were as violent as we were. They did the same thing to each for years before we arrived. We fought them in a war and we won. This has been going on since the beginning of time. If your country has food, or water or gold or oil, and another country wants it, they fight you for it.
@deeganindizhinikaaz8428
3 жыл бұрын
He called my tribe out 😅😅 (ojibwe) he said chippewa though
@spasjt
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, never heard of this show before. However, the brutal honesty between the two about how things actually took place in history is something that many would rather bury their heads in the sand than tolerate hearing the facts, as others seem to have done in these comments. I'm going to have to watch this show. It look raw and real.
@ARKHAMASYLUM-qc7bw
2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie that's a bad ass way to meet up for a battle to discuss last minute terms
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