since, the group has a chinese member so definitely it's quite fair.
@L0verataouille
5 ай бұрын
Not really
@realme-jj9lt
4 ай бұрын
??@@L0verataouille
@jerrylee3887
4 ай бұрын
Last time I check Asepa is a Korean group. Why bring other nations past on the group??? Makes no sense.
@yeonicore
4 ай бұрын
@@jerrylee3887 aespa sure is a korean group but the member they have aka 'ningning' she is chinese so ofc her nation is concerned of her
@Runaa145
4 ай бұрын
@@jerrylee3887you just check but didn't read property Ningning is a Chinese tho her real name is ning yizhou
@soumyaprajith4710
5 ай бұрын
If Chinese fanbase has THAT MUCH importance for Aespa and their sales then yeah it would have been better if SM changed the dates and venues also the reasons are very valid this time
@quit4everxx
5 ай бұрын
i agree
@hvmidnight
5 ай бұрын
Reasons i understand and support. But people need to considered they might not be able to change venus or dates due to contracts and timelines
@ubb..6426
5 ай бұрын
Yeahh
@massylipao2720
5 ай бұрын
Chinese fanbase has that much importance to every group that has chinese fanbase. SM should've known this already to never mess with any China bars.
@hvmidnight
5 ай бұрын
@@massylipao2720 yeah it was a stupid decision that was probably not thought through
@flowerinbloom
4 ай бұрын
Some of y'all don't realize the gravity of this situation. If ningning performs there at that particular date, her career in china as good as over. It's done for.
@deannaw9128
4 ай бұрын
Oh no! Ugh that's messed up.
@JudezaJairaIbarra
4 ай бұрын
Or worse, she cannot go back home anymore especially Chinese government is very brutal when it comes to their country and history.
@cybergalacticnova
4 ай бұрын
@@JudezaJairaIbarra Oh yeah and the chinese government can easily erase someone off their internet.
@imthecoolest50
4 ай бұрын
Why ningning though? The gov should threaten to ban SM from China, rather than banning Ningning alone. That will definitely make SM think twice before dragging Ningning into this.
@TonyTonyFizzy
4 ай бұрын
@@imthecoolest50 I’m assuming it’s because Ningning is a representative of China in this case. If SM truly cares about her, they’d reschedule the date
@anabeatrizdantas2274
5 ай бұрын
It’s a complete fair reason, especially with Ningning being chinese!!!
@ranran_dv
4 ай бұрын
What's worse is Ningning is from Northeast China, where the genocide happened the most and is also a place where China had to give to Japan after the war.
@StrangeChickandPuppo
4 ай бұрын
It can be a gesture of peace, in reconciliation and celebration that the two countries are no longer like that.
@ranran_dv
4 ай бұрын
@@StrangeChickandPuppo ?? Japan ppl don't even admit that they committed genocide and you expect them to reconcile?? Tf??
@dis_f
4 ай бұрын
@@StrangeChickandPuppo are you really suggesting one chinese member of a k-pop group make peace for all the horrific epoch?
@scarecrow4611
4 ай бұрын
@@StrangeChickandPuppoah yes after Japan killed 20 million Chinese people and tortured and even higher unknown amount of people (including stuff like 🍇) and they don’t want to apologize nor even acknowledge what they did (actions that even the Nazis found disgusting) they should know ignore it woah you’re right…
@scholarssolutions6735
4 ай бұрын
@@StrangeChickandPuppo Japan literally has a shrine with multiple class A war criminals from WW2 honored there, bffr. China and the Koreas aren’t “over it” because Japan has never shown remorse. They’ve “apologized” but then also had the gall to demand Korea remove a statue dedicated to comfort women and refuse to remove the war criminals from the shrine.
@taeynv_
4 ай бұрын
Why are they making their Chinese artist perform in such an historic day and especially in JAPAN?!?!
@RYUJINs_Addractive_girl
5 ай бұрын
For ningning like imagine a day or two in a year which is very sad cause something happend really sad to the people from your country but because you are an idol you need to preform in the day. If ningning was korean it was no problem but she is so they have good reasons.
@maxadamdor
5 ай бұрын
SM what are you doing mate?
@dmitrypoyurovskiy3628
5 ай бұрын
It's better if they change the date so no scandals or boycotting would happen!!!
@Nini_st4rs
4 ай бұрын
It makes sense bc im chinese too, if i were a idol i wouldnt budge on that day at ALL
@maxadamdor
5 ай бұрын
and it’s all SM’s fault. Aespa needs us but putting a concert on that day AND ningning being Chinese? im really sad
@StarGirl11Galaxy
4 ай бұрын
They got a very solid point 😭💀 SM don't think things through like they should
@mop4yy
4 ай бұрын
This is disrespectful af. SM KNOWS the sino-japanese war is on July 7th.
@flaminiamariafuccelli8214
4 ай бұрын
Not to mention the colonial brutalities Japan inflicted on Korea...
@rosie5816
5 ай бұрын
They have a literal Chinese member idk why they wouldnt think this through. This could ruin Ningning’s career in China. She would literally be blacklisted in her own home country. I don’t see how that’s fair, sm better change those dates and give then bigger venues.
@Can_think_of_a_name
4 ай бұрын
I don't think it would ruin her, Chinese fans are sad for her, they're mad at SM not her
@rosie5816
4 ай бұрын
@@Can_think_of_a_name it’s not about the Chinese fans but the government, the government will literally blacklist her. In China this is considered a major offense she will never be able to show her face publicly in China again.
@btsismyoxyjin2013
4 ай бұрын
@@Can_think_of_a_nameeven if fans are not upset trust me she will be national television after that performance and obviously not for good reason.
@JudezaJairaIbarra
4 ай бұрын
@@Can_think_of_a_nameMaybe fans wouldn't ruin her but the government will. Look what happy to tzuyu after she raised her flag. Chinese government is very brutal when it comes to their celebrities.
@erianneyzabellaandal8754
4 ай бұрын
Im not that much of a fan of aespa, but SM definitely have to cancel or change venue dates. Quite disrespectful especially they have a Ningning, they don't expect her to just leave the other 3 for that day, right-
@Lalisa3.0
5 ай бұрын
Yeah the boycotting makes sense in this case as someone who likes to keep history up and respect the months and days everyone was given especially for extreme past events I completely understand .
@megankeightley9018
2 ай бұрын
They’re going to boycott them for not “respecting” a Chinese holiday, whilst not in China? 💀 Kpop fans are so entitled it’s wild
@marciamarques2899
4 ай бұрын
first time I feel like they are right, like, ning ning is Chinese, AT LEAST respect her
@Can_think_of_a_name
4 ай бұрын
Fair enough, both are completely valid imo
@ChisaBero
4 ай бұрын
Yeah those actually make sense. Hopefully they can make those changes
@kelseyrae5533
4 ай бұрын
valid concerns from the chinese fanbase’s perspective
@luftwaffles-16
4 ай бұрын
Chronically online
@MekananiLM
5 ай бұрын
I agree, both of this is a good reason
@appleringa8167
4 ай бұрын
If they didn't have any Chinese member it makes no sense..but since they have a Chinese member ... It sounds fair..
@amy_ambrosio
4 ай бұрын
Chinese fandoms are always so organized for whatever they want to do, it's very impressive And btw, how it happened this with SM? They've been targeting the Chinese market for years 🫠🫠🫠
@kaskyel4381
4 ай бұрын
Ningning should not attend the concert in july 7, because it can really affect the whole group
@MrAresxy07
3 ай бұрын
Chinese are delulu to call Hong Kong China 😂
@WXNYYOUNG
4 ай бұрын
It’s true but why boycott aespa? Isn’t it their company’s fault
@Chicken_Dragon_Eater
2 ай бұрын
They should be allowed to perform, every single day is important to every culture out there. If they stopped performing because this one day, then who's to say that other people aren't gonna take advantage of that and demand them and anyone else should stop performing because its "offensive"
@aflower5768
2 ай бұрын
You're not understanding the gravity of the situation. The issue sure is the date, but what makes this serious and justifiable is the fact that one of the group's members is CHINESE. That's the real problem. And another problem is that they are performing in JAPAN, the country that committed lots of war crimes against the chinese back in WW2. You may think it's fine because you're not from that country or part of their culture, but it's a pretty big deal for that country. Please gain more insight and knowledge on the history of the 2 countriea before speaking
@Chicken_Dragon_Eater
2 ай бұрын
@@aflower5768 So the Koreans have to be punished because of it? If they wanted ningning not to perform is understandable but to exclude the rest of them wouldn't be justifiable. Plus im mexican, if a Spaniard wanted to perform on Sept 16 with mexican member on another country well frankly I wouldn't care cause i know that its not political or anything. Cause for them it might be just another day. If the rest of the members and the company were somehow making this as some sort of attack on china then you might have some merit but this ain't it chief. Plus lets not forget that Korea itself was attacked by Japan in WW2. If they have zero issue with it than why should you?
@aflower5768
2 ай бұрын
@@Chicken_Dragon_Eater Hah you're one funny lad. They ended up changing the date by the way. To give you another example, you're saying that if you're a jew, you're going to perform in Germany on the 27th of January, simply because the rest of your friends are not jews? You're just telling me you don't respect your country and don't care about its history. Otherwise, you wouldn't have carelessly said that. That is called "oppression". You're forcing one to disregard their country's history. This date is basically like what 27th of Januray is for Jews. Elder generations that are still alive and newer generations have been affected by this huge event. Had it been in any other country on that day, it would have been okay. The problem is that they're making a CHINESE member perform in JAPAN. This date is specifically for Japan and China, South Korea isn't included. If you used your brain a lil, you'd realize that the group has performed in Japan before yet never caused controversy. Why? Because they didn't do it during an important date that is significant to either a member's nationality/ethnicity or the country itself. No Koreans are being punished. You are being really disrespectful, please do some self-reflection. It's not that hard to just respect people and their identities
@Chicken_Dragon_Eater
2 ай бұрын
@@aflower5768 what? Whats your logic? Koreans were victims of the Japanese just like the chinese but only the Chinese feelings matter? The moment you start dictating who can and cant perform on certain days you start walking a very thin line. Let me ask? If an Indian band wanted to celebrate of a British holiday like for example, boxing day. Should they not be allowed to perform cause of their past together? Are Spaniards not allowed to perform on Nov 1, cause of their history in mexico. How about an american artist performing in Puerto Rico on Dec 10? Are English people not allowed to work in Ireland cause of their past? By your logic no K-Pop group should EVER perform in japan cause of what they did. Btw Korea WAS included, the Japanese had forced korea to draft personal for them. Imagine another country taking you over and demanding your people to fight for them, how would you feel? So the koreans have just AS much a say in this as the chinese do. If koreans are ok with the 3 members going then why is china having an issue.
@aflower5768
2 ай бұрын
@@Chicken_Dragon_Eater you're not getting it. That day is when the Japanese committed horrible war crimes against the Chinese. That date has literally nothing to do with Koreans. I don't understand why you keep misunderstanding, your reading comprehension is that of an elementary student. This is about China and Japan's history, why are you bringing in Koreans when the Sino-Japanese war has NOTHING to do them. The least you could do is show some respect but I guess you're too arrogant for that. I never dismissed other countries and theit histories. You're reaching, like reaching rlly hard
@chaewontopia
5 ай бұрын
Honestly, their reasons are valid and fair and also ningning is Chinese too.
@undefined601
4 ай бұрын
Fans in China have already declared boycott for lesser reasons and boycotted Drama, so it's not going to make much difference. They cried wolf too many times, so SM is probably numb to their demands.
@deannaw9128
4 ай бұрын
Oh? Interesting. Wtf is their problem with Drama?
@undefined601
4 ай бұрын
@@deannaw9128 Solo stans using the "mistreatment" card which can mean anything.
@my_winterr
4 ай бұрын
I feel like chinese kpop fans are the only people who boycott albums for good reasons. remember when ive china bar boycotted their album because wonyoung couldn't rest? chinese fans are the most logical kpop fans ❤
@nakaharanaori5672
4 ай бұрын
Maybe its bcs Tanabata (7 jul) but yes there's ningning so gotta respect her
@jhl0vux1
5 ай бұрын
I think the Chinese fans are right. Since there's a Chinese member, SM should consider that and should respect other's culture. I hope they take the criticism and change the date and the venue in China!!
@reunion_k9375
3 ай бұрын
well they respect it, because the concert is in Japan and not in China
@zibbitybibbitybop
4 ай бұрын
The venue size gripe is valid, but the date gripe is not. It doesn't matter that Ning is Chinese, the concern ain't in China and Japan doesn't give a crap about that date. People need to quit being so self centered.
@leeminhyung167
4 ай бұрын
Performing in Japan on that date would be like preforming in Germany on Holocaust remembrance day. I kid you not, they often say Imperial Japan was worse during WWII than the Nazis.
@yolandamgulwa4869
5 ай бұрын
These reasons are valid in my opinion. SM has Chinese artists in their company, they should know that certain topics like history and politics can affect their groups. I hope they listen to the fans bc Chinese fanbases are important for the group's sales. PRE-ORDER ARMAGEDDON OUT MAY 27TH 😊
@mul-ti-homiekhopper
4 ай бұрын
idk have nothing to do with the dates cause i didn’t know anything about it and the meaning 😭 but with the venues, sometimes the companies can’t choose certain venues because of other people using them… for example ateez will be at a small venue for the concerts in Gerogia due to the bigger arenas like the State Farm Arena being used by other artists on the same day.
@userj793
4 ай бұрын
They literally having one Chinese member in a group.Hope SM will consider this.
@Rosesvocalofficiallyujin
5 ай бұрын
I think sm should change Since ningning is Chinese it would disrespectful to her
@justwatchingvideosLA
4 ай бұрын
We not gonna buy your albums, but make sure the venue is big enough for all of us 🤨
@atousamas6097
4 ай бұрын
I mean it would've hurt if they change the date
@shad0wCh8ser
2 ай бұрын
My thoughts = Anyone boycotting Aespa is missing out!!! 🤣
@sakurakou2009
2 ай бұрын
Wasn't korea also involved in the Japanese wars, this should have been common sense for them not to do the concert in that date
@RinaCh
4 ай бұрын
if they really perform on that day, Ningning’s career will be over in China 😢 SM must do sth now
@KAZXRU
2 ай бұрын
SM don't mess this up
@jadebayoba7073
4 ай бұрын
I was rolling my eyes but they do have some points tho...
@rosesvenom
4 ай бұрын
all so dramatic and too sensitive, i never heard abt this chinese thing and onestly just bc one member is chinese they should not take seriusly, not all the world tourn around chinese culture. Leave aespa and japanese fans alone, if you want do your day-off but this is just in China not in all the world and all people
@Santia5a
4 ай бұрын
In this point - history about black sl*very is bs, n-word is meaning NOTHING. Not all the world turn around american "black" culture.
@reunion_k9375
3 ай бұрын
exactly !
@brainburn03
5 ай бұрын
Here they go again..
@Hiperestelar
4 ай бұрын
Eu achei que era por causa do namoro da Karina, eles não são os únicos, milhares de coreanos cancelaram a Karina e o aespa só por causa da matéria tendenciosa e invasiva da dispatch, além de segundo os próprios fãs tóxicos acharem que tem direito sobre as escolhas amorosas dela, por puro ciúmes e obsessão, não por razão de algo
@lukasssantoss5257
5 ай бұрын
If big companies should listen to teenagers nagging and complaining then nothing would have been done. So K-pop be strong and just follow the positive and ignore negative
@euniesthebaws_freepalestine
3 ай бұрын
Wait I'm actually with Chinese netizens on this one. For once they have some good points.
@Xyniss
4 ай бұрын
This is straight up disrespect towards the Chinese community as a whole and to NingNing who is also Chinese!!! SM needs to change the date for sure.
@AndresOnce9
4 ай бұрын
Siempre dicen que boycot y después pum! Como si nada logran más cosas que el anterior comeback
@ajstyles643
5 ай бұрын
honestly this time they aren’t wrong both reasons are fair I’m with them
@aimeeclarkson-williams3706
5 ай бұрын
Fr. I ain’t Chinese but those dates are kinda disrespectful
@monamadyson
5 ай бұрын
Me too honestly
@milkovinc
5 ай бұрын
honestly agreed. anyone would do this if it’s about their history.
@saiki.k__8144
5 ай бұрын
Fr especially that ningning is Chinese 💀
@loelds4817
4 ай бұрын
Japans albums sales for kpop is much higher than china. Also kpop is officially banned by the Chinese government which is why kpop artists can’t do concerts mainland china. They have to go to hong kong or macau.
@piss-v4l
5 ай бұрын
they wouldn’t have said anything if ningning wasn’t in the group, so this is a genuine concern and reason to show that this isn’t fair to them nor the chinese member
@denofgames2072
4 ай бұрын
Nah they definitely would have
@ranran_dv
4 ай бұрын
@@denofgames2072 Ive's concert is on July 7th too and they didn't boycott it cuz of the date
@dilpreetkaur557
4 ай бұрын
Do you have brain or not. Ive do not have Chinese member @@ranran_dv
@aliciaeee_
4 ай бұрын
And Ningning's hometown was invaded by Japanese during that period and had a large impact on the citizens in that area.
@nopperabosfathersasshole4944
4 ай бұрын
@@ranran_dvbecause that’s not Korean independence day
@berber7146
5 ай бұрын
I was ready to roll my eyes but actually Chinese netizens have some good points, I’m with them on this
@sabrinaleedance
5 ай бұрын
Yes trying to see it from my perspective imagine an idol from Americs or whatever had to perform on a family holiday without said company even acknowledging its a holiday for them
@_princessluna
5 ай бұрын
same
@mayaa_v
5 ай бұрын
@SmileAway21I highlyy doubt that, I mean most kpop companies aren’t really known for respecting their idols at all
@sayurinz
5 ай бұрын
@SmileAway21 girl those comapnies dont care if your starved to death, what makes you think they care about her preferences?
@suyaa7678
5 ай бұрын
@SmileAway21nationalistic for no reason? the japanese committed numerous war crimes in china, including the horrific rape of nanking. you only show your ignorance and stupidity when you blow their concerns off as “useless nationalism”
@sidewalk0232
4 ай бұрын
Wow. Chinese netizens are so much more reasonable than korean ones, korean netizens will boycott a group because a member looked in the direction of an opposite gender idol
@Dark0n3_Plays
3 ай бұрын
lol fr though
@irvingchies1626
2 ай бұрын
No they're not "much more reasonable" but this time they are right, even a broken watch can give the correct time twice a day
@peachesandblues
5 ай бұрын
Feels like their reasons are genuine and SM might have to do something because majority of their income comes from Chinese album sales
@Aelita___
5 ай бұрын
First I thought, "Well, they are performing in Japan, not in China, why would they care?" But after realising that Ningning is chinese...😬 Yep, they should change the date, at least out of respect for her
@O-nd4xc
4 ай бұрын
Performing in Japan is exactly what makes it problematic for them tho? Why would they be happy about them performing in the country that’s responsible for the rape of nanking and other war crimes on a day of remembrance 😭. Ning Ning being Chinese is the cherry on top! This is srsly so messy…
@ireneserrano4570
4 ай бұрын
That's the exact reason. When Japan invaded, occupied China and genocided Chinese citizens, and they have never ever apologized formally, and they even justify it or otherwise just ignore it ever happened. Having Ningning entertain Japanese in Japan at that special date for China because the total invassion started 7th July 1937...
@kpopstertube3563
4 ай бұрын
But SM does not respect Ningning.
@galaxy_kitten95
4 ай бұрын
@@kpopstertube3563SM has never really respected Chinese members in general.
@Gamerboy-gl7di
3 ай бұрын
@@ireneserrano4570 it was chinese fault to be so weak. The imperial Japan will once again come and retake their former territories.
@joan6325
5 ай бұрын
Seeing the comments siding with Chinese netizens warms my heart. I’m a Malaysian Chinese and although I’ve never been through the sino-Japanese war in WW2 that was basically a time when Japanese soldiers went on a cruel genocidal rampage on Chinese everywhere, including Chinese that came down to Southeast Asia to work. The horrible things they’ve done to them haunts both people that went through it and the younger generations to this day. I understand that we shouldn’t be associating Japanese now with Japanese then but it is still an important Memorial Day to memorialise those that were terrorised and killed due to that war.
@lulu_luvsu
4 ай бұрын
Well said!
@racheljin5320
4 ай бұрын
Exactly
@StrangeChickandPuppo
4 ай бұрын
What if SM gave Ningning a chance to speak about the specialness of the day while at the concert, and have the whole audience remember and reflect on it. This isn't just a matter of "not use entertainment" because it is literally her job, not just something for fun.
@kaesthetical
4 ай бұрын
@@StrangeChickandPuppo considering how controversial the sino-japanese war is, having ningning speak out on it while IN japan would possibly upset many of the people
@shaikhie
4 ай бұрын
The people in the comments aren’t considering ningning’s cultural background and personal feelings? And demanding for bigger venues is a totally reasonable demand since their population is so big and the fanbase is bigger !
@looneyiloli5034
4 ай бұрын
yeah i thought we were gonna all be on the same page as the chinese MYs like- this is actually a big deal 😭
@zibbitybibbitybop
4 ай бұрын
She chose to be an idol in Korea, though, not in China, and that date means nothing special in either Korea or Japan. This is just cnetz being self centered.
@justhere3324
4 ай бұрын
@@zibbitybibbitybop So when you immigrate to another country you have to lose your cultural background and historical ties? Actual brain dead take, to put it into perspective imagine telling a Palestinian “you moved to America, and this doesn’t matter here so you should care??”
@kaesthetical
4 ай бұрын
@@zibbitybibbitybop her choosing to be a kpop idol doesnt mean all her culture and ethnicity just disappears though. think about it. ningning will be performing in japan, the country that previously massacred millions of chinese people, on a day commemorating those events. if you read about the horrible war crimes carried out during the sino-japanese war, youll see why cnetz are so upset.
@scholarssolutions6735
4 ай бұрын
@@zibbitybibbitybop by that logic, Korean artists that promote in China shouldn’t give a shit about important dates in Korea. Dumb af logic. Imperial Japan was a genocidal fascist regime, and imperial Japan ruined Korea too.
@sanazamir8341
5 ай бұрын
since they have a Chinese member the first reason is valid but if they didn't then that wouldn't have been a valid reason
@ranran_dv
4 ай бұрын
So they never boycotted any other group performing on July 7th
@sanazamir8341
4 ай бұрын
@@ranran_dv well probably because the group didn't consist of a Chinese member
@ranran_dv
4 ай бұрын
@@sanazamir8341 That's what I was saying??
@sanazamir8341
4 ай бұрын
@@ranran_dv oh sorry I misunderstood your comment
@Carat-staytiny-exol._.
4 ай бұрын
@@ranran_dv The problem is Ningning being an chinese AND the event taking place in Japan. Read a bit history about China- Japan past . Hope you'll understand . Besides , chinese fans playing a HUGE role in this group's success , this bit of respect is necessary .
@Uselessandexcuseless
4 ай бұрын
Ningning will be hated unfairly due to performing in Japan on such a day, it’s actually good that fans are calling out SM for this and this boycott actually makes sense
@Bunny_and_buddy
5 ай бұрын
It’s always Chinese and Japanese fans who always have a fair point. 😭
@leeberry4ever
4 ай бұрын
Ik only they are reasonable and some other international fans with brains
@AkakuMushroom
4 ай бұрын
Not always, for instance Twice are banned from China because one of the members raised a Taiwanese flag (she's Taiwanese) she was only 16 at the time and got massive hate when she really did nothing wrong
@RinaCh
4 ай бұрын
@@AkakuMushroomI still remember Tzuyu’s apology video, she looks so depressed 😢
@espeon871
4 ай бұрын
@@AkakuMushroom yeah the nationalistic fans were so mean and horrible to her
@derekwang404
4 ай бұрын
@@AkakuMushroom She is not banned anymore, after the apology even like the national television accepts her dude.
@synthesis37
5 ай бұрын
I often read about how SM ent mistreat their Chinese idols, but this is a whole level of mistreatment. I don't even know why they keep training Chinese idols if they're going to treat them like that. If Ningning performs that day in Japan she will be blacklisted by the government, I doubt she can have a career in her home country once her contract expires, I hope Chinese fans sales decrease as much as they can so the company listens to them.
@harleyrobb3034
4 ай бұрын
From my experience with not music but a gacha game epic seven. The Chinese truly don’t fuck around. So they should opt to not have Ningning perform that day. Idk if they can reschedule it depends on the costs and other factors. But not having her perform may be a good compromise.
@synthesis37
4 ай бұрын
@@harleyrobb3034 I don't have many experience about this either but I play gacha games too and a Japanese voice actress was "banned" in China and the Chinese games developers made her voice being removed and then replaced from all the characters she played, because it was what the players wanted due the incident she was involved.
@argxoxo7326
4 ай бұрын
but why is sm Chinese idol doing well unlike other companies ??
@coolorochi
4 ай бұрын
Just to clarify, cn gov don't do these sort ban. When the gov do something, it will be reaaaaaly serious. These sort ban come from companies don't want to offend their fans. Because of the sheer number of people. When the number is big enough, it will be a force to reckon with.
@cookiemilk2280
4 ай бұрын
@@coolorochithey do it's like a law if the do something against the morals of the government or the netizens you would be ban
@nicoleni8903
4 ай бұрын
Any other date would be fine. Even any other country could be fine. The problem is the combination of wrong date + wrong country + Chinese member
@Sugas_Girr
4 ай бұрын
💯💯💯
@georgebeckons539
5 ай бұрын
Yea for Chinese it's like performing on Remembrance Day. It's just tone deaf, literally any other day would be fine!
@scarecrow4611
4 ай бұрын
It’s even worse since Japan and China had the war on July 7th (were the actions of the Japanese even disguised Nazis and 20+ million people died which Japan refuses to acknowledged to have happened) they know have to at the same day entertain the same COUNTRY ON THE SAME DAY ist like the US has to send entertainers to Al Quaeda on 9/11 like what?
@youdontknowme8503
5 ай бұрын
And the other thing is that the chinese / japan war started july 7th when japan tried to enter china and for a chinese person to entertain the Japanese that day is so degrading
@racheljin5320
4 ай бұрын
So true
@ladydiamondprisca
4 ай бұрын
I'm with the Chinese MYs this time. Ningning shouldn't have to perform on such a day.
@Looneey_17
4 ай бұрын
Well China also needs to stop killing Uyghurs but here we are, they don't eveb have a right to get mad at this.
@LenkaHatakeRAWR
4 ай бұрын
Considering that ningning is Chinese I can see why this would upset the fans and I don’t know the venues but I do know that SM seem to underestimate aespa sometimes as when they toured here in London, they actually cut some of the capacity down when aespa could of easily filled the arena. I actually think the fans reasons are valid and SM should listen to them
@scarecrow4611
4 ай бұрын
Ist even worse since Ning Ning is from the North… the Place most of the Genocide happened… 20+ million people and countless other atrocities and she has to return home one day and meet her family again so this is horrible in a completely different sense especially when she has to meet her Grandparents who lived trough those times.
@riki4thgenitboy
4 ай бұрын
aespa having a Chinese member makes it even more sad hopefully they change the date
@rogaldorn5486
4 ай бұрын
Pretty valid, if thats how the Chinese people feel about this day and in combination with the venues beeing much to small, everything is pretty inconsidered.
@yujinswife
5 ай бұрын
they actually have a point omg
@starzies
4 ай бұрын
Honestly...i get their concerns. I hope 2ning will be okay.
@etherealeun_
5 ай бұрын
I honestly feel bad for chinese my's because of aespa performing in japan on black day
@btsismyoxyjin2013
4 ай бұрын
Omg the amount of hate Ningning will get from her home country will be unbearable and considering her popularity there's chances of politics to be involve as well. So sm should just change atleast 1 or 2 days later
@jonmartindeiii962
4 ай бұрын
@@btsismyoxyjin2013I doubt she'll get hate from her home country, more like this will be the start of SM DOWNFALL✨✨
@btsismyoxyjin2013
4 ай бұрын
@@jonmartindeiii962 by home country I meant general Chinese Netizens not Ningning Chinese fans.
@jonmartindeiii962
4 ай бұрын
@@btsismyoxyjin2013 nah I'm Chinese, not offended
@btsismyoxyjin2013
4 ай бұрын
@@jonmartindeiii962 well you don't represent all the Chinese.
@aubreysong
5 ай бұрын
Somebody from SM PR is very sus, choosing that date knowing that there's NingNing in the group.
@STAYing_for_kids
5 ай бұрын
They aren't wrong tbh.. It's fair I support them.
@aerabyeol
5 ай бұрын
This is actually valid, a huge amount of the revenue is not only from South Korea, but from China those are their two major fan bases
@xxabsolitexxx7747
5 ай бұрын
I honestly thought this was such a bullshit reason Considering japan does not have that same thing as China so who cares but then I realise Ningning is Chinese. Her family probably experiences that war maybe not her parents but their parents before them and so its probably hard for her to perform on a day where she would usually pay respect to the dead or spend it with loved ones. Honestly that’s greatly disrespectful and that’s like making us British perform on armistance day. I hope she’s ok and hopefully they change the date
@jonmartindeiii962
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, its also very important since Ning Ning is from Harbin where japanese set up an experimentation site where they tortured and experimented on Chinese ,Koreans, Russians WITHOUT anesthesia - Unit 731 So it matters😢😢
@hypergiselle
5 ай бұрын
wtf is goin on with these companies bro.
@wademyler9167
4 ай бұрын
Ok you crazy kpop fans this is the time y'all need to buy those trucks and protest, if yall can stop Karina from dating y'all can definitely stop this
@ςιαιαα
5 ай бұрын
Their points actually make sense this time. SM should listen to them if they want what’s best for Aespa
@Sweetbugflower
4 ай бұрын
Seen another post like this and I’m glad people are agreeing instead of disregarding Ningning and being disrespectful about it all while also saying they aren’t that big so it’s not a problem like it still is even if they aren’t that big
@cattygirl1005
5 ай бұрын
I mean this reason looks reasonable they should considered this when they have chinese member 🤔
@lalalopsy5966
5 ай бұрын
These are valid reasons tbh
@An_even_fuller_sun
5 ай бұрын
Seems reasonable to me. I was ready to defend my girls but it has nothing to do with them. It's just SM being sh*tty again. Its one of the things SM does best lol. SM POWERHOUSE OF: Top notch vocals 🎵 Incredible performances 🔥 Mistreatment of foreign idols 👀 Unique Choreo and dance skills 💃🕺 Experimental music 🎧 Not letting their idols be people 👀
@Ellie-El
4 ай бұрын
They have every right to do that
@wendytaeyeonluna
4 ай бұрын
Sending a Chinese idol to Japan on July 7th the day of the Marco Polo Bridge Incident is insanely classless and disrespectful, bars have a point, I’d be mad too
@NItzzy-bj5hs
4 ай бұрын
Every time I hear something about Chinese fans is always some bs, in tired just to listen
@sleepylinny_
4 ай бұрын
Bro it's about historic past, you're not chinese so you would not understand
@NItzzy-bj5hs
4 ай бұрын
@@sleepylinny_ let’s not act like there wasn’t world wide wars 🙄 I could be boycotting singers from Spain, England, etc because of the past too…
@gigihuang-hf3fc
4 ай бұрын
it the equivalent of a jewish idol having to preform in germany on international holocaust day
@leannsalamieater
4 ай бұрын
@@NItzzy-bj5hsbut have they performed on a day in your country that is incredibly disrespectful to?
@kaesthetical
4 ай бұрын
@@NItzzy-bj5hs at least try not to be ignorant. read about the horrific war crimes that happened to chinese people during the sino-japanese war, and maybe you'll understand why they are upset. plus, ningning is chinese herself, so it's not just some random war
@BlazinNSoul
4 ай бұрын
Well given they have a Chinese member they should have probably taken this into account. I personally don't give a s*** as I am not that petty. Nor do I let nationalism get in the way of my music interests. However, given that Aespa has a significant fan base in China. This was probably just an oversight but still should have shown more consideration. On the flip side however here in retrospect. If the shoe was on the other foot here. I wonder if Chinese fans would have given the same consideration for their Japanese fans. Something tells me not so much. As you can't have it both ways here. :/
@ritas8091
4 ай бұрын
I’m a CHINESE fan and I’m surprised that one of the reasons r not to do with their song spicy. In the chorus they hold their pinky finger which is cursing in Chinese 😅 I’m surprised they r not pointing that out. Btw I LOVE and SUPPORT aespa❤
@Claire-cc6xy
5 ай бұрын
First time I've ever heard a reasonable boycott
@awesomeecuadorian
5 ай бұрын
this is strange to boycott them. it’s not like the girls are selecting the dates and venues, it’s the company. how do people not understand that
@urgirl_hanz
4 ай бұрын
No one is blaming them for this or is hating on them plus no one would have cared about the date if it weren’t for ningning being chinese so this is not good for her and boycott is the only way for companies to listen because they don’t care about their idols they only listen when it hurts their pockets plus SM has a history of mistreating their Chinese idols so this is no surprise
@Laylayla67
4 ай бұрын
I don’t think you understand. Them boycotting their next album is so that their sales would decrease and sm would listen to them, they’re not necessarily doing it to hate on aespa, it’s just a way to make sm listen and do something
@inoynk
4 ай бұрын
but the money goes to the company to²
@tall_x_together
2 ай бұрын
I didnt expect to say that, but they kinda right... especially having having (for 1st reason) Ningning and (for 2nd reason) a huge fanbase in China. Sm do sth plz
@flowdesigner
4 ай бұрын
Kinda seems valid
@KAZAKHCAT
4 ай бұрын
CHINESE ALWAYS ACTING LIKE DRAMA
@jenaries
5 ай бұрын
This is actually concernable
@erzsieke
5 ай бұрын
I definitely get where they are coming from, but I wouldn't boycott the whole album. I would just obviously not go to that concert. It's fine to be upset and voice concerns, but idk...
@JJoy225
5 ай бұрын
Are you kidding so now every KOREAN group/company needs to bow down to the chinese and reschedule all their events bc of CHINESE rules are you lot insane
@Santia5a
4 ай бұрын
But when very Korean group/company need to bow down to americans, for you it's okay?
@finp6094
4 ай бұрын
Ningning is CHINESE
@JJoy225
4 ай бұрын
@@Santia5a And how do they bow down to Americans? They don't reschedule events because of American customs
@seren3462
3 ай бұрын
boo hoo, they even try to "cancel" IVE as well, get a life
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