I have an alfa 4c, honestly, I love it. I would chose no other car at the same price point (maybe even a bit higher). However I completely understand what Chris means. The Cayman is one of the best cars to throw around the track and live with it in the city. The alfa cant keep up with the numbers. But this alfa is a work of art. The manual steering, quick acceleration, small size, exhaust..... I wouldn't trade it in for any other car. Only someone who relishes it's pros will understand. :)
@HenryPerez_royal_hp
9 жыл бұрын
+19gundy You lucky son of a gun! I want one so bad. What color is yours? I want mine in white, with carbon fiber mirrors, spoiler and gunmetal phonedials - DREAM CAR!
@jasonholtkamp6483
7 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to buy a new car within 6 months and I'm looking at the Porsche 911, Cayman S, and Alfa 4C. It would be my only car, but I live in chicago so I don't really need it for any reason but to have fun. I'm really glad to hear you say you love it. I'm worried about maintenance and usability though. Do you ever regret not getting a more 'practical' car?
@Joe-eg7ml
7 жыл бұрын
Have a S2 Lotus Exige SC, thinking about getting a 4c.
@nateisright
7 жыл бұрын
Jason Holtkamp The 911 is in a different class. Best GT car in the world. The other two are sports cars. I've driven both. The Cayman is fast and going around corners it can do things that will scare your passengers. The 4C has a sense of occasion. It looks fantastic. The naked carbon on the interior is so cool, you'll find yourself pausing at the door sill to stare at it. The exhaust sounds better in person. It's very quick. AR have fixed the darty steering. You will fall in love at first sight, or your brain will protect you and you will end up with the Porsche.
@jasonholtkamp6483
7 жыл бұрын
Update: I ended up going with the 4C. you were right: I fell in love at first sight. I ordered one in Rosso Competizione with a carbon fiber roof. Should be here in October... I can't wait :)
@jasonholtkamp6483
7 жыл бұрын
I test drove both of them back to back on the same day. I went with the Alfa. I don't regret it even a little, I am in love
@MrPuerAeternus
9 жыл бұрын
Brain says PORSCHE .... Heart says 4C !
@TheG60528XiJinPing
5 жыл бұрын
Wife says NO 😀😬
@danielr.8345
5 жыл бұрын
The wallet says alfa
@ValenNitto
5 жыл бұрын
I have no heart 😂
@How2Desmo
5 жыл бұрын
Italian car, this is why ...same with motorcycles:)
@michaelmeliambro5117
5 жыл бұрын
Brain says "NEITHER!" Heart says "I'd prefer to walk...."
@Lynkk
9 жыл бұрын
In Short: From Monday to Friday: the Cayman S Saturday and Sunday: the 4C
@thejoshi96
9 жыл бұрын
So on the weekends you like to hoon around in a Citroën hatchback - wouldn't be my choice ;-)
@EVILSPAWN1003
9 жыл бұрын
Joshua Müller The Citroën is the C4,not 4C ;)
@thejoshi96
9 жыл бұрын
Yeah my comment looks kinda stupid now after Lynkk fixed his little mistake, at first he said C4 ;-)
@harlemkiid149
8 жыл бұрын
+Lynkk I can afford one of the two,if i could afford both i'd opt for 997 gt3rs. Personally I wouldn't purchase a Cayman unless it was a Gt4.I'll wait for the 781 Gen Cayman with turbo 4 and see how fast it is. Best deal of the two would be a base 4C which can be had right at 50k.
@sgdtv1368
7 жыл бұрын
Lynkk agreed 100%
@samael__33
4 жыл бұрын
They dont compare, one is a brilliant piece of German engineering the other is the perfect representation of how machinery can have emotional value.
@pete3198
4 жыл бұрын
I like this summary. Its much like whisky making from the perspective of Scottish vs Japanese. Japanese engineer their whisky to have a particular taste by design, while the Svottisj follow a traditional time honoured process and what comes out comes out basically. Both make some incredibly good whisky despite taking totally different approaches.
@stephen300o6
4 жыл бұрын
The irony, writing the comparison straight after writing they can't be compared..
@mrwitteridge3949
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he's driven either of them.
@chiaral1786
9 жыл бұрын
With gold wheels Alfa 4C is a little sex bomb.
@joesassoon54
9 жыл бұрын
+Chiara L *cough *cough seenthroughglass
@rubenvalente
9 жыл бұрын
If i where a machine i probably get a Cayman, but because i have a heart i would without a doubt take the Alfa, just look at it, how can you ignore it? Its not just a machine, it will be your best friend, you will get mad with it some times but you will love him even more after that. Cuore Sportivo sempre.
@rousseau327
9 жыл бұрын
lol
@RickCosmo
9 жыл бұрын
while I'm certain the Italian machine has attributes, my money goes with the near sure thing..Porsche Cayman, of course!
@michaelcollins966
9 жыл бұрын
Looks like we have a Jeremy Clarkson wannabe here...
@RickCosmo
9 жыл бұрын
you pick an Italian car over a Porsche? qual è il problema?
@beefbroth6539
9 жыл бұрын
Gayest shit I've heard all year.
@wazmanths
9 жыл бұрын
in a sunnier country i'll have the 4C any day
@t56071561
4 жыл бұрын
There are cars that tick boxes and then there are cars that stir the soul. The Cayman may produce better numbers but it just can’t compete with the feeling you get driving a 4C on mountain bends. I’ve seen little children literally crowd a 4C parked by the side of the road. They know nothing about cars but just by looking at it they know it’s something special. Meanwhile the Cayman sits quietly hoping someone will notice it.
@tsvetelin6556
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@CI_4C
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 well said
@ralfmetz9084
9 жыл бұрын
Hey Guys, ok, I've already decided to buy a 4C - in fact, I'm owning one since May this year and using it for more or less each day. Porsche surely builds perfect cars, great handling, you can equip it with so many options, it can be driven by more or less everybody. And that's already one of the differences for me - I like to have a special car, which isn't owned by 5000 other people. I also do not care about times on the race track - I'm going up and down pass by pass. And it's fun! However, I agree that the steering is extremely sensitive - that's something which I much improved by adjusting the toe-in and out. Additionally, Alfa offered an upgrade for the TCT which makes the load changes much more smooth - but on the other hand, a little bit of the raw character is gone with that. However, it always - as usual - just depends what you're looking for. A car, which is perfect for each situation and where you don't require emotions? Then, the Porsche is a good choice. Want something irrational? Then - go for the Alfa. And as usual - There is no accounting for taste :)
@roleta301116
9 жыл бұрын
Ralf Metz ~Take a look to performance kit for the Alfa 4C...300 HP...it will be great...www.novitec-sportiva.com/en/News/Novitec-Tuning-Preview-For-Alfa-Romeo-4C
@TassieLorenzo
9 жыл бұрын
+Ralf Metz "A car, which is perfect for each situation and where you don't require emotions? " Yep, that's what German cars are all about. :)
@GameZKanaal
9 жыл бұрын
The alfa looks better tho
@seivaDsugnA
3 жыл бұрын
Why won't Alpha lose the silly nose grill?, or at least make it so miniscule that it's not noticeable from a hundred yards?
@josephhardwicke6344
3 жыл бұрын
@@seivaDsugnA because it's an iconic and striking piece of design. And it's not iconic in the sense of masking blandness and laziness like what Porsche does
@TheG60528XiJinPing
3 жыл бұрын
@@seivaDsugnA your the only person ive ever heard say that
@love2sing756
8 жыл бұрын
Comical that he thinks comparing the Cayman S to the 4C means anything. The Cayman S starts at $65K the 4C at $53K. Should be comparing a base cayman which starts at $54K. The base cayman has 275HP and 214 Torque.
@falcaonet
9 жыл бұрын
In my country a Porsche cayman S costs 87.921€, while an Alfa Romeo 4C costs exactly 60.000€.The cayman goes from 0-100m/H in 5,1 s while the Alfa 4C goes in 4,5 s.The Cayman S has a much greater top speed though...The point is,he should have compared the basic Cayman(265 hp) not the S(320hp) with the Alfa 4C,afterall the Cayman S is "only" 27.921€ more expensive
@swansmeister
5 жыл бұрын
dont know where you got your stats from but they are wrong, it's zero to sixty time is a second faster than what you claim, either can't you even compare these two, the Porsche is on a whole other lvl than this crappy 4c.
@neutronalchemist3241
5 жыл бұрын
@@swansmeister That "level" is acquired at the cost of 27.000€. Spend half that much on a 4C and it will smoke any Cayman S on any track or road.
@swansmeister
5 жыл бұрын
@@neutronalchemist3241 even with a 15000 dollar tune the 4c will never beat a cayman s. Porsche does crazy things with very little we all know that. I doubt a mid-engined porsche would lose to a 4c. It corners better, acceleration is better, it sounds better, it's just better end of story.
@neutronalchemist3241
5 жыл бұрын
@@swansmeister Chiptuning BS Racing 500€; torsen limited slip differential Prometeo 1.000€; suspensions NTP Bilstein B16/Eibach 3.500€; wheel angles tuning 400€; Wheels OZ HLT 8Jx17” front and 9Jx18” rear 2.000€; Pirelli PZero Trofeo 205/45 R17 245/40 R18 1.250€, Sparco S line seat (not really needed) 1.600€; total 12.750€. A standard Cayman can't be put on the same track without looking ridicolous.
@napolmen
9 жыл бұрын
alfa 4c forever.......!!!!
@방인성-i3e
9 жыл бұрын
Bru that floyd mayweather statement was bold as fk do u hear what u are saying? Chris.
@mdcohen
9 жыл бұрын
방인성 This video was in November 2014 before a lot of people realized how bad a guy Mayweather is. In Harris' defense I think he just didn't know. It was all about Floyd as a boxer.
@stephen300o6
4 жыл бұрын
I remember back when they were first compared, I would have taken the Alfa over the Porsche, but with time passing, in retrospect, I would have to choose the Alfa over the Porsche.
@shabbos-goy9407
2 жыл бұрын
what?!!!!
@tsvetelin6556
2 жыл бұрын
I like that plot twist :D
@timgillison1175
2 жыл бұрын
Nicely put :-)
@rkberta
8 ай бұрын
Agreed.... and I own one now.... since 2015.... 4C LE
@DGtrack
9 жыл бұрын
Both great cars. I love how the Alfa looks apart from the 2-spoke steering wheel.
@mattbod
9 жыл бұрын
The Alfa is beautiful but for the money I would want the multi cylinder howl and NA response of the Cayman.
@minibus1351
8 жыл бұрын
what about now?
@78glaurung
9 жыл бұрын
Have a look at the rear left light cluster that is savagely bouncing at 2:53 This should be the "high quality" of the "best sportcar of the planet"?
@nessuno5403
6 жыл бұрын
78glaurung a punished press car
@swansmeister
5 жыл бұрын
I noticed this also
@BojanBojovic
4 жыл бұрын
It is not about quality, it is more about perceived quality. Something similar to religion, it is not which one seems most logical, but which one looks better to you personally.
@lucaballardini1
4 жыл бұрын
you'd be suprised what you can see wiggle on any car driving on bumpy roads in slow motion
@winchuni22
8 жыл бұрын
These cars do nothing to change the stereotypes. German - solid, well built, efficient, fast but a little dull. Italian - great looking, good performance, exciting but technically not as good a car. For me the Porsche looks a bit boring. The Alfa is gets my vote. Now I just need to find some money...
@alfie3836
8 жыл бұрын
+winchuni22 true, and true,.... however, I have owned 2 boxsters and they have given me zero grief and 100% fun, reliable and fun is hard to find. You can thrash them on the track, then drive home in them without worry. Can't beat that
@winchuni22
8 жыл бұрын
Alfred Yuen You can't, that's true. I have looked at a Boxter as a nineties model is not actually that expensive - servicing and parts are the problem. But then again, yours you say has done well. What year is your?
@mariano7699
4 жыл бұрын
Alfa Romeo : ❤ Cuore Sportivo. Arta, Passione, Emozioni, Speciale. Cosa vuoi di più della vita ? Un "Luhano" o una Alfa speciale ?
@dragospahontu
4 жыл бұрын
But Porsche is rationally better
@maxpowers3732
9 жыл бұрын
I'd take the Cayman with a manual. How the Alpha Romeo 4C could not have power steering, but then put an automatic makes no sense. The Cayman is built well, fun to drive, handles superbly and is all around a better car. Except maybe if you prefer the 4C's styling. Otherwise I don't see why wouldn't go for the Cayman
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
9 жыл бұрын
Thing is that these extras make the Cayman about half a ton heavier. This is why you cannot expect Bentley Arnage comfort in a Lotus Elise either. Today's semi-auto gearboxes are also quicker than manuals.
@thegirthquake8574
8 жыл бұрын
+Ahrle Bengtsdotter and yet they're heavier than manuals, they aren't as engaging as manuals, and they're made for two kinds of people: Track Day Bros and rich morons who cannot drive stick.
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
8 жыл бұрын
Michael Tarantino Indeed. I personally hate them.
@waynerhea6649
8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Tarantino or people who value lap times
@waynerhea6649
8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Tarantino the steering is already heavy as hell if you but this with a manual it would make it almost undriveable the alpha is something you need two hands to drive
@fredsalfa
9 жыл бұрын
The Alfa Romeo is 10 times more beautiful than the dull Cayman.
@zambam3
9 жыл бұрын
The Alfa looks like a nice car but I don't like the headlights at all. The Cayman looks like a nice car, it doesn't look dull to me.
@fredsalfa
9 жыл бұрын
zambam3 They have up graded the headlights now
@akrokdesign
9 жыл бұрын
totally.
@stephenowens5375
9 жыл бұрын
I agree the alpha is like a hot Italian petite brunette who steals your heart, unfortunately she will also steal your wallet too. Whereas the German blonde may not be a stunner but will be reliable and be there when you need her till the end. Pays your money and takes your choice. Damn I am starting to sound like Mr Clarkson!....no offence meant.
@fredsalfa
9 жыл бұрын
Modern Alfa Romeos are absolutely reliable nowadays. I have had 7 Alfas so far. Of course the Alfas from the 80s were rust buckets and not the best but after Fiat took over they have been the same as any other car. I have had 2 post Fiat Alfas so far and they have been absolutely perfect with no problems at all.
@frankburns8871
4 жыл бұрын
The Porsche is the better car in pretty much every objective way, and I'm 90% sure I'd go with the Alfa. Had they offered a manual transmission, you can make that 100%
@petersente83
9 жыл бұрын
Firstly, I still don't understand why the 4C needs to be compared to the Cayman. If the 4C is more similar to an Elise, then why not drag that one out of the garage? Secondly, Porsche has been making sports cars for more than 70 years, and nothing else. So the fact that it has one of the best allround sports cars of the moment is hardly surprising. According to some it's also one of the most reliable. Jolly great! What I read in all of that is predictability. It looks the way you expect (in my opinion it's as unattractive as any other Porsche), it drives/handles the way you expect, it sounds the way you expect... Thirdly, what makes Alfas likeable to me, is the fact that they have been all over the car spectrum in their 105 years of existance. They may not produce the absolute best cars in their class, but they know how to excite (both driver and onlooker). Owning one may drive you up the wall from time to time, but the joy they bring is priceless and so very worth it. Lastly, I wish everyone a very happy 2015, and hope we all get to drive the cars we like! :)
@DashCamSerbia
4 жыл бұрын
Alfa, the work of art.
@hummrH2o
9 жыл бұрын
check out that driver's side taillight at around 2:54
@stu1002
4 жыл бұрын
here's the thing: when you buy a car like this, are you buying it for anything other than emotional reasons? I mean, if you're being rational and sensible you buy a Kia Ceed surely? So, for me, right out the gate, the car gives me goosebumps seeing it on the drive every morning..what's the point? And for some reason..Porsche just...doesn't do that. It does so many things so well, but apart from the Porsche 917 - which is simply one of the prettiest cars ever made - Porsche just don't...move me the way an Alfa or a Maserati or or Ferrari,Lamborghini or an Aston would.
@markriobr
5 жыл бұрын
As usual Alfa design outclass any car in the world.
@prbassistant2711
3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@markriobr
3 жыл бұрын
@@prbassistant2711 Bad taste is normal
@markriobr
3 жыл бұрын
Bet you think a Mustang looks better.
@markriobr
3 жыл бұрын
Can only imagine if you dig women and have one , what she looks like;;;;Lol
@GermanYinzer
9 жыл бұрын
Chris, you deserve soo many more subsricbers!
@Gasinduced
9 жыл бұрын
They'll get here...
@GTRSv
9 жыл бұрын
Idk how recently he broke off and made this channel, but i just found it today. Drive plus is now completely pointless. Glad I never signed up
@Flying_Lexus
9 жыл бұрын
Skyhunter I think he should have his own show on BBC.
@Birmingham_racing
8 жыл бұрын
+KirillVL your wish has come through sort of
@neorider9183
3 жыл бұрын
Who bought the 4C now is happy for the incredible retail value. Not so much who bought the german one
@primo4904
8 жыл бұрын
I do not understand this mania of comparing Alfa 4c and Porsche Cayman They are 2 cars completely different Not to mention that a Cayman costs a lot more (Do not look at the official price, look at the final price of the dealer !!!) There is only one car with which the Alfa 4c can be compared and it is the Lotus Elise Have you ever thought of comparing Lotus Elise and Porsche Cayman? I think not !
@stevejackson4553
4 жыл бұрын
If cars were women the Porsche would be the girl you'd bring home to see your parents. She would be the girl next door who was a cheer leader, or maybe the prom queen, The Alfa would be an Italian super model who did lines of coke for breakfast and would want to make love to you 6 times a day. The Porsche would be the girl you end up marrying, but the Alfa would end up being the one you lust for in your dreams.
@ibizalover2000
9 жыл бұрын
First of all, congratulations on the new channel! We would love to see how the 4C stacks up to the Elise S, given that the 4C is trying so hard to be like an Elise. Any chance of doing such a comparison? Cheers
@theonetrader44
8 жыл бұрын
This comparison should b with the base Caymen!!
@mad7206
8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review, no gimmicks just pure passion
@stretch90
7 жыл бұрын
So basically, it's not top gear. lol
@msganga1974
4 жыл бұрын
In my modest opinion these 2 cars belong to different world. Cayman S is a quite luxury car that you can use to enjoy the speed but also to spend a nice week end somewhere . Alfa 4C is more in Lotus field...it is a special toy , quite spartan inside, amazing and different outside, fast, thrilling...but not a daily car...
@rogerdickinson6944
3 жыл бұрын
six years later and the Alfa is now worth 40k as a baseline, very little depreciation now. In the future I can see it is as an appreciating car. Can't say the same for the Porsche.
@peterorigenes4358
3 жыл бұрын
Just went back and looked at this after buying a 2020 4c spider. It’s Angelina Jolie to the Cayman as Jennifer Anniston, or pick your pair. The 4c is essentially and thankfully unchanged as production winds down. Rear suspension fix is changing rear rubber bushes to solid joints. Solid aftermarket to make these cars wild if that’s your thing. Don’t know who will make a car like this again between regulation and small market, at least at a price that they can be bought new (for just a couple months) or used (prices stabilizing around $45-$50. Review still holds, the buyer for this is looking for something specific that is not a Cayman or Corvette, or a used 911.
@ionianfalcon
7 жыл бұрын
Just imagine the 4C with the V6TT Giulia QV engine and trans and a bit better interior...
@tomderdoktor2159
4 жыл бұрын
I make it like topgear...the porsche ist faster...the porsche has the better interieur...the porsche has the better chassis...ok i take the alfa👍
@johns5493
6 жыл бұрын
I have a Cayman S and watching Chris slide it around the track is just magic, it looks so right 😁
@1TB0T
6 жыл бұрын
Despite IMS fears, I "chose" a pre-electric steering Cayman S. Great car! LOVE IT! (I'm an Alfa fan as well. Had 3 Alfa's. YOu dont have to pick a side ;) )
@jalalalap-akalala
4 жыл бұрын
Ims isnt an issue on the cayman, it has a beefed up ims.
@prbassistant2711
3 жыл бұрын
Well said man well said!
@prbassistant2711
3 жыл бұрын
Fuck yes what kind of Cayman tear? Spec?
@prbassistant2711
3 жыл бұрын
**year
@michaelherron4306
9 жыл бұрын
I can see why you compare the cayman to Mayweather but surely it's got more charisma than Fairweather
@mckengineer5727
5 жыл бұрын
Remember, every review he’s ever written idolises German machinery, especially Porches and BMWs...made his mind up at 12 and is never going to change 😟
@MrUltraworld
9 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the Alfa compared to a Lotus. I feel that for the price, you should get a bit more than a turbo 4cyl. A 6 spd manual would also make it much more appealing, and save some weight and money that could be used to spruce up the interior.
@RJJP4PKING
8 жыл бұрын
37 pacman fans dislike this video
@woodledog
9 жыл бұрын
All these drives in the wet are most depressing.
@TheG60528XiJinPing
3 жыл бұрын
Skid lube
@724tomjohnston
7 жыл бұрын
Current reports state the steering/handling issues have been solved !
@m.d.f3797
6 жыл бұрын
Porsche and Alfa Romeo are the Apple of cars. They tell people yes their products are less, but it is magical and enhanced with pixie’s dust and unicorn’s piss, and then proceed to put a huge price tag on it. No offense, I don’t hate these companies nor do I love them, but lets be honest people, less is less.
@tmeo9712
9 жыл бұрын
Why not drive the LAUNCH edition which has the better suspension, better rear end, better brakes and staggered wheels? This is clearly the BASE version both inside and out. You are comparing a $89,000 Cayman S to a $55k car here.
@rousseau327
9 жыл бұрын
If I didn't want the Cayman, I would get the F-Type. Or the Exige. Or the Elise. Or the SLK55 AMG. Or the C7 Corvette. Or just about anything else for the price that can be justified by things other than the Top Gear "this car [Alfa] wins your heart" bullshit.
@adam1othman
9 жыл бұрын
the f types a more expensive car but it is awesome... i don't like the new lotus after the esprit is where i cut it off. but i would by an alfa trust me if you've driven a higher end alfa of any vintage or modern they really do stir the soul and win your heart its fucked but they are amazing like that. as an italian i get that though we are pretty expressive and passionate people and in our eyes when we make a car with all the passion and soul and a car with better specs come around we really don't care because we know that the way our car drives and the way it makes you feel speed and specs can't match example ferrari 458 vs mclaren mp4-12c. except i would buy a used 8c and send it back to the factory to have it fitted with disco volante suspension and higher compression heads from ferrari.
@rousseau327
9 жыл бұрын
Adam Othman You see, there's more to the 458's driving experience than the inexplicable lust that Alfa owners have for their cars. I've driven Alfas, and they really are not anywhere close to something that is as special as people put them out to be, and non Top Gear reviews give no reason to believe the 4C feels as special as Alfa fans claim they are. Let me put this in another way. If Toyota secretly made this exact 4C under it's own naming scheme without anyone knowing, I can guarantee you most people who call the Alfa special will call the Toyota average.
@adam1othman
9 жыл бұрын
ewt415 i agree for the fiat badged alfas. I'm not sure what alfas you've driven but I've driven the top notch cars of yesteryear and the pretty modern stuff too (I'm privileged). and i can say the top stuff is soul stirring in the praise that automotive people give it the montreal (my dad had one for 6 years) i drove was scary to drive fast but it felt so special anyways speed didn't matter and i was amazed to find the same thing with the 8c (my uncles car). now i haven't driven a 4c but i am excited to try it and ill tell you how it goes.
@robinchina471
Жыл бұрын
I own a 4C spider. It gets attention and is a very raw vehicle. You feel everything. The road, the brakes, and the steering are very sensitive. To me, it feels like a very nice-looking go-cart, and I love it.
@solomonw5665
Жыл бұрын
I want one
@siempre289
7 ай бұрын
how is it as a daily?
@ibrahimmoss
7 жыл бұрын
Chris' analyses are spot on. He drives with a great deal of sensitivity and really gets suspensions -- front and rear. He can also drive his behind off. To this day, I haven't seen anyone drift with the precision he shows. He does it with speed, and places the rear wheel within a mm of the edges. Nor have I seen anyone drive to a literal edge of a car's performance while maintaing safety. The best around. The best around.
@lordzevallos
9 жыл бұрын
I'm sure when they either update or make a second gen of the 4C it will be spectacular.
@radoslavjankoski1550
9 жыл бұрын
2:55 the left headlight gonna fall off
@1TB0T
6 жыл бұрын
PDK vs Alfa's flappy padel is probably the best way to compare the 2 anyway. I love both. It would be interesting to re-do this comparison with the new 4 cylinder turbo engined Cayman 718.
@rubenvalente
4 жыл бұрын
2:53...Porsche build quality. lol
@aingaran2003
9 жыл бұрын
WAAAAAAY better than your stuff on drive. This is exactly what I want to watch
@xboy4331
9 жыл бұрын
This video was actually originally posted on drive, so yeah....
@mojworker27
9 жыл бұрын
Chris please please can you do a review on Audi RS7 VS Porsche Panamera turbo S, as one costs more £45,000 more than the other, this would be much appreciated.
@bremms1
8 жыл бұрын
Too bad we don't have an Alfa 3.2 V6 with a dry sump in the 4C. Maybe some Penske or Ohlins dampers. The rear suspension needs better shocks. The Porsche uses struts all around. Its a matter of set up and damper quality. The front tram lining can be partly mitigated by a little more toe in and tyres larger side walls. Lightweight cars should not have super low section tires, it's not a good idea. My relevant cars have been 3 X-1/9's ( 2 track cars) S2K and i currently drive a Locost 7
@cybertree
8 жыл бұрын
THE CAYMAN COULD BE THE BEST PORSCHE EVER, EVEN BETTER THAN THE 911! *Start with CAYMAN GT4.* *Sprinkle in some 500HP GT3RS engine.* *Add a dollop of downforce.* BI-WINNING.
@connorgraham634
9 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't an alignment solve the 4C camber/crown issues? Sounds like the 4C is setup with front Toe set to 0 where as the Cayman might not be..
@michaeljarvis6587
4 жыл бұрын
I had an Alfa Giulietta with the 4C engine in. I now have a Cayman with the 2.9. I daily the Cayman but get to a few track days a year in it. It's brilliant.
@d-n-a8119
3 жыл бұрын
Was the Giulietta good ?
@michaeljarvis6587
3 жыл бұрын
@@d-n-a8119 Yeah. I loved it. Maybe a bit softer than the average hot hatch.
@rkberta
8 ай бұрын
It isn't the same engine... aluminum block and head and quite a bit more. I have owned a 2015 4C LE since new and it is still my favorite car I have ever owned. Minor tweaks like uniballs instead of rubber bushings in the rear and better tires than the Pirelli P Zeros that come on the car make a huge difference. As far as looks..... 4C has it.... other cars just dream of looking so awesome ;-) By the way it has been an amazingly reliable car to own.... and compared to Pcar prices cheaper to maintain too.
@jdord4838
6 жыл бұрын
Great review and matchup.."Yeshua / Jesus is the way "
@stanleystefanowski3727
8 жыл бұрын
Once again it comes down to what your heart would choose versus what your brain would... People say we shouldn't judge a book by it's cover but let's be honest... We all do.
@swansmeister
5 жыл бұрын
2.53, why is the light shaking like that, anyone else noticed this or is it just me.
@HarizHafiGarden
9 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about buying the Cayman I went for a test drive and the steering was absolutely dreadful
@peterorigenes4358
3 жыл бұрын
Coupe is beautiful, Spider almost as beautiful.
@VMX42AUS
5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see an Alfa that won't rust...
@CallsignVega
Жыл бұрын
I don't know why everyone/reviewers drives the 4C outside of Race mode. It should only be driven in Race mode.
@chadhaire1711
5 жыл бұрын
comparing an apple to an orange here---only 1400 4c's are made every year....only 800 to the USA.
@JsDs1020
4 жыл бұрын
The Porsche will last you 100,000+ miles, I have a hard time believing that an Alfa can do the same. The Porsche is also more usable and more comfortable, if you have enough money to buy two cars the Alfa is a good choice for a weekend two but its not a good all around car.
@iehen
4 жыл бұрын
The usual prejudice. Have you ever heard about the Porsche 996 engine issues? And 997 issues?
@e.d.4824
3 ай бұрын
Why buy a 4C over a Cayman?! Well, because it’s gorgeous sexy rare fun raw, weighs less than a ton, can be a targa… And also because a lot of us find the Cayman unattractive uninspiring and common… Great test and comments
@petemills3143
9 жыл бұрын
Chris, so good to have you back in a place where your supporters can once again enjoy you videos without the 'Drive ±' utter bollocks. Just continue to do things your way, we dig it your style more than pretty much every motor journo there is on camera.
@polarbear111000
8 жыл бұрын
Here's the thing. First of all, those of us who don't live in the U.K. aren't taking our sports cars out for dives in the rain. You have to or you'd never go anywhere. My '13 Viper GTS stays in the garage, and the Subie WRX STi comes out in foul weather. Or if it's questionable I pull out the S2000. We also don't generally have shit roads. They tend to be pretty good. The term "British roads" says it all. "British conditions". So lets think about this in terms for the rest of us. Would I rather be in the Caymen or the 4C? That's easy. The Alpha is "special" and "different" and beautiful. It's kinda like the difference between my Viper and a Corvette. I don't want to see another of my car on the road, and I won't in the Viper, and I won't in the 4C. It'd take the 4C in a heartbeat. As you said, "It isn't another Porsche".
@muzictherpy
5 жыл бұрын
Porsche is again made so best perfect, but Alfa is made beyond limits pure lust desirable so no one have a chance against Italians, although with Cayman is made big step ahead in making desirable beautiful designed car, yet they are way far behind. Italians have that by nature some kind of gift to make all so uber desirable, simply to be in lust for it, made always full of screaming with passion and to be spectacular show car or anything else what ever it is, only Italians know the magic for that, the seductive secret that push the desire for own it, the love to own it, the main thing that keep the fire over the rational brain with decisions what is better ;) (am not Italian :) honestly, somehow only McLaren P1 succeeded to beat them.
@TexasRevving
9 жыл бұрын
Personally I just can't get excited by a Cayman unless it's the GT4. If I were in the market, i'd skip the nonsense and get the GT4 haha
@fishtaco-m3j
25 күн бұрын
I have Giulia in Charlotte, NC. I rarely see another Giullia. I've never seen a 4C. That may not be important to you but it's a draw for me.
@StirlingVoid
5 жыл бұрын
Buy a porsch looks like a brick, buy a alpha romeo 4c you get a beautiful temperamental Italian work of art? No comparison.
@biseruk
2 жыл бұрын
Alfa Romeo all day long!!!it's like seen beautiful girl with nice smile,I don't think it's even point to compare, Alfa have a human soul!!! that what I call love!!!!!
@shabbos-goy9407
2 жыл бұрын
A 4C in 2022 has unreal resale values. It is Alfa's Magnus Opus. An old Cayman or Boxster is worthless cr@p. A 4C will go through the roof value wise in time.
@mariaz8464
5 жыл бұрын
its NOT fair comparation !!!! try tu copare with porse 2.0 engine!!!!!!!!!!! end wen the c4 is faster and quick !!! and lotus is quicker and more chiper !!!!!!!!!!!
@ramboormark
3 жыл бұрын
Easy to say you'd take the Alfa when you arent spending your own money. I daily a 981 C GTS, I couldn't daily the Alfa.
@wtf1992lynx
9 жыл бұрын
Why would you buy a cayman over a 4C, you simply wouldn't if you had any sense of good taste. The car is beautiful, it has enough power and apparently its fun as hell, so honestly fuck brilliance (Cayman) because id rather stroll along on something that stole my heart with epic looks, period.
@fafa9493
4 жыл бұрын
Alfa is a religion
@francescostrada2205
9 жыл бұрын
I prefix that both are beautiful car ! but 4 C Alfa' s design are more beautiful than Porshe, unfortunately design of Porshe it is always the same.
@masmouta1994
9 жыл бұрын
You should do a Cayman/Boxster GTS review
@blackjacket_
9 жыл бұрын
I don´t think there is a sense ... It is just about having top off or on and also, lack a very little bit of stiffness to it but add more "freedom" feel and sound. End
@masmouta1994
9 жыл бұрын
no, I mean a Boxster OR a Cayman GTS review, they're pretty much the same
@ashman0071
3 жыл бұрын
The Cayman is ugly - the Alfa expensive and unreliable. Both need a lot of work to be successful - that's why they don't sell.
@vladadesigns8476
Жыл бұрын
Than Alfa is just so nicer and more special than everyday Cayman. It's on a completely another level, not even comparable.
@pzeus11
5 жыл бұрын
The Alfa just does not look good. Alfa cars are designed by people with no vision, or at least past vision. It looks like they are trying to make a bad looking little ferrari.
@Omar-kw5ui
5 жыл бұрын
2:52 you can literally see the tail light shaking in its socket.. would've thought Porsche screw their stuff down better than that
@TheSnookerGym
7 жыл бұрын
What do you mean 'following the camber' and 'following the crown'?
@EVILSPAWN1003
9 жыл бұрын
If the Cayman had been the Floyd Mayweather of sportscars it would have refused to face the 4C. Or it would insist the 4C lost the turbo,ran on a mix of petrol and diesel and only had 3 wheels
@StreetKingEvolution
9 жыл бұрын
Great that you've made your own channel!
@cybertree
8 жыл бұрын
I REALLY wish Porsche would stop keeping the 911 on a pedestal, *and put that 500HP GT3RS engine in the Cayman already!* Because it'd essentially be the best German car ever; *a MID-ENGINED 911!* (Throw in a manual gearbox option and I'd literally dehydrate myself through my crotch.)
@Snakebloke
7 жыл бұрын
Porsche makes better cars than Alfa?! Well I never! Of course the Porsche is a fantastic car, it's Porsche for f**ks sake...but I'd still have the Alfa. The two cars oare indicative of the nations from which they hail: Porsche is undoubtedly German in it's perfection; but Alfa is unmistakably Italian in it's character and charisma. If you dream of going on holiday or buying a holiday home, you don't dream of having one in Germany, do you? And that should say all there is to say.
@Cerebrum72
9 жыл бұрын
4C! :-) I have the Launch Edition nr. 165/500 and I Love the way it sounds, looks and drives :- Thanks for the review.
@tootalltodrive
4 жыл бұрын
Still got it?
@Cerebrum72
4 жыл бұрын
@@tootalltodrive yes 👍😉
@isflin9919
3 жыл бұрын
@@Cerebrum72 how many miles and how is the reliability? thanks.
@siempre289
7 ай бұрын
still go it? lol
@vlajster
7 жыл бұрын
but the cayman is so damn UGLY,its almost chrysler crossfire ugly!
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