Love the way how he explains stuffs in a very poetic and enthusiastic way
@Lentlebeanify
4 жыл бұрын
Back here in 2020 now that the Golf R is finally at a price I can afford 😆
@matemarijan3795
4 жыл бұрын
Haha, same. I'm choosing between 7R and A45
@Michael-yz4mc
4 жыл бұрын
Mate Marijan power in the A45 is noticeably different but the golf is definitely the better overall car
@dragospahontu
4 жыл бұрын
Same
@wcfinest
4 жыл бұрын
M140i or M240i mapped with hjs downpipe and akrapovic/remus exhaust shall it be!
@HaveOneWithHans
4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha same bro i just bought 1 i love it
@lapamful
9 жыл бұрын
Damn. Chris Harris could slide a train! Good review.
@bradford_shaun_murray
4 жыл бұрын
11:36 whoa!
@pvallely100
8 жыл бұрын
bought a golf r off this and a few other reviews, awesome car so much fun to drive and great to live with everyday.
@redarmy1778
6 жыл бұрын
paul_v I've got m135i and it brings a smile every time I'm about to get init, but through my old job I got to drive a few golf r let me say pal you have an awesome car sticks to the road like glue very special motor indeed
@exothermal.sprocket
6 жыл бұрын
How many miles on it? What country you buy it in? Any issues with carbon build up on intake valves? DSG or manual?
@SuperSpeece
3 жыл бұрын
Dsg or manual?
@arnie1046
4 ай бұрын
Why does it matter? @@SuperSpeece
9 жыл бұрын
Mr. Harris it is a delight to play your reviews, one can always rest assured you are going to deliver an honest opinion. Heedless of what modern trends and brands want the world to look at, you still talk about having fun driving, getting feedback from the chassis and steering, rear wheel drive, and all those little things that make driving a passion. On the top of that, your voice is sort of mesmerizing. Please don't stop doing what you do, ever.
@goodwoodandthebeaver
9 жыл бұрын
This literally made my week. Chris Harris is one of the beast car video reviewers out there, and he 100% deserves this
@RollingShutter
4 жыл бұрын
I sometimes come back to that video for that one line. “ it has four exhausts, like a Ferrari!”. The way he is holding back his laughter cracks me up every time.
@RollingShutter
3 жыл бұрын
yup, still cracks me up
@HubraumTV
9 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris - the only one who can slide in a Golf :D
@aquateen77723
9 жыл бұрын
Haha! I agree....I was like wtf??
@brandonbateson2283
9 жыл бұрын
I've slid in mine... However it was promptly into the curb breaking a tie rod and control arm.
@milaman06
9 жыл бұрын
***** shit driver
@hyperrat12
9 жыл бұрын
+HubraumTV well the mk7 can now fully turn off traction control!!
@chirikotoji
9 жыл бұрын
+HubraumTV I slid my car first day I had it just taking it through a short curve ;) seeing how far I could push it through a bend
@ZenGamer97
9 жыл бұрын
Oh joyyy. Will be staying up for several hours tonight watching these vids. THANK YOU SO MUCH CHRIS. GENUINELY.
@peterlewis3540
9 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what BMW are doing to their loyal customers, providing ultra desirable cars and charging us for virtually every option that most other manufacturers include as standard. Volkswagen also do it with their Golf in a more diluted fashion. Both the 3 series and Golf are two of the most sought after cars, BMW & VW know that and charge us a fortune extra for all those desirable extras. Its the customer who is the mug falling for it.
@thainaaier
9 жыл бұрын
which is why I bought an Audi S3 with virtually zero options.... I just wanted a fast understated compact car with AWD.... no need for fancy useless gadgets.
@imakegetsugatenshou
9 жыл бұрын
JimB And thats why u are BORIIIIIIIIIIINGGGGGGGGGGGGG. Audi S3 and AWD is just BORRRRRRRRRRRRINGGGGGGGG!
@imakegetsugatenshou
9 жыл бұрын
Whateva man... drive what u want i can't argue with people like you. You have no argues, you have small brain.
@BFD15i
9 жыл бұрын
Peter Lewis Simple solution: Don't buy all that bling-bling-stuff. I only orderd the automatic-gearbox, heated seats, park-distance-control, the small gps-system, adaptive headlights and that's it. And I don't miss any of that fancy-stuff they offer since I've never had any of that and it's still a great car.
@peterlewis3540
9 жыл бұрын
***** I agree with that, but just look at the BMW 3 Series, Porche Boxter & 911, any Audi you care to mention, and the VW Golf. I cannot think of any current German car in production, that is not highly desirable. I think Audi & BMW could make the steering wheel on all their cars, an optional extra, and customers would accept it. The Huns certainly know how to screw together a set of wheels.
@jayMbodybuilding
8 жыл бұрын
Chris has got to be the absolute best car journalist on you tube. his opinion would largely be influential in my decision on what car I would buy. As good as the R is, I just feel the next generation would be even better. They will have to up the horsepower to go up against the focus RS, I hear Subaru is going to have more power in their next STi as well
@MattMK45
9 жыл бұрын
Wow, I didn't realise how much I missed getting my Chris Harris fix until now. I'm so glad that his videos are free to all (I assume) once more!
@w-james9277
8 жыл бұрын
Nice to finally see a manual Golf R
@markdenyer8072
8 жыл бұрын
fully agreed. should be the only option.
@markdenyer8072
8 жыл бұрын
+Joey Kissinger once upon a time you had to be a good driver to drive a car fast now anyone can jump in a press a button to change gear. i can't stand them.
@markdenyer8072
8 жыл бұрын
+Joey Kissinger yeah totally. I'm just being a bit of a purist and wanting all cars to be like they once were. It wouldn't make business sense to exclude the half of the market.
@dj4monie
8 жыл бұрын
+Joey Kissinger I live in Los Angles and I've driven several manual transmission cars here. It's a non-issue. Put it in 2nd and don't bother with it. Also I generally work when traffic is down 40-50%, again living in large Mega City with well know keyword here Rush Hour/Drive Time (To Home) traffic issues, I've done it with a Neon ACR without issue and several times I've taken the canyons home (through Bel-Air). You without living here have made way too much of that.
@jayMbodybuilding
8 жыл бұрын
the DSG is just so much more efficient. I like a good manual, but feel they belong best in a sports car like a 911, corvette, or domestic muscle car. the DSG in the R makes the performance just so much better.
@jeffpuha8187
9 жыл бұрын
One thing Harris didn't mention is price. The M235i is about $10k more here in the States than the Golf R, when we finally get it next spring. I like both cars a lot, but, considering the price difference, and the fact that the Golf R seems to ride better on the street, as well as it's greater cargo room and all-weather capability, I would probably go for the Golf R over the M235i. Both cars are sweet, though.
@isubzerokelvinii4109
7 жыл бұрын
Not everyone is from the states. Pricing for each is gonna be different all over the world. Although I will say the bmw is always gonna cost more cause its a bmw.
@wakiwest
7 жыл бұрын
ISubZeroKelvinII you can pick up an m140i/240i with about 1k miles on it for the same price as a new golf R. Bargain!
@FCBruh94
7 жыл бұрын
no, you cant.
@lanceanderson23
7 жыл бұрын
Exactly. If the two were more closely priced it would be a tough choice. But to option an M235i similarly (with nav, adaptive suspension, leather seats, adaptive lights, etc. you are talking nearly $50k!) Hard to justify the higher price unless you REALLY want that RWD.
@Haltdiefresse0815
6 жыл бұрын
I'd say that the M140i is closer to the Golf R. The manual version costs almost exactly the same as a Golf R (At least in Sweden) and is pretty much the same car as the 2series. Both the m140 and the golf r can be used as daily drivers. So if you want manual rwd the M140 is king, otherwise Golf
@Kamukix
2 жыл бұрын
8 years on and I STILL enjoy watching this review even after seeing it a number of times. It's just so beautifully skillfully done. 👌
@vladp7463
Жыл бұрын
I have bought my m235i after this review and I still come back to see it again :)
@Kamukix
Жыл бұрын
@@vladp7463 hahaha I bought a Golf R and have done the same, almost bought the M235i a few times, it's a lovely thing to drive 👌👌
@craigmcotter
8 ай бұрын
I bought this press car (the m235i) and owned it for 5 year, and I kept the silly stickers. Made me very happy until I recently upgraded to a manual m2.
@TheEowli
9 жыл бұрын
that first powerslide/drift on the track with the golf had me smiling so wide. i want one. it looks like a great car
@Thousandairee
7 жыл бұрын
The fact that a 4 cylinder turbo competes so well with the 6 cylinder turbo is impressive! Won my vote!
@exothermal.sprocket
6 жыл бұрын
But longer wheelbase, RWD platform (optional rear-biased x-drive avail), more interior room, inline-6 engine with loads of performance room.... just a better long-term car.
@beamerandthebeast3979
5 жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket I love my n54 335i because its aqd and manual :)
@exothermal.sprocket
5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good one.
@mariodr1067
5 жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket the M235 doesnt have more room than a golf...
@exothermal.sprocket
5 жыл бұрын
@@mariodr1067 With the seats up or down? Are we talking head room? leg room? Shoulder room? Hip room? Or are we talking fill it up with water to the brim to fight forest fires?
@GT86crazy
9 жыл бұрын
One thing to consider is that the Golf R is the top tier in the VW Golf line up, so they've gone all out on it. No reason to hold back. But BMW are careful not to let the M235i get too good in fear that it will cannabalise M4 sales. Also agree that they are not directly comparable in terms of price.
@ShionHyrezUK
9 жыл бұрын
A decent speced R will cost you the upper end of thirty grand, say 37.5k. You can drive home in a brand new well speced M235i for that cost or a super speced ex demo. So they are the same price really. The R is actually over priced in my experience.
@ShionHyrezUK
9 жыл бұрын
imfuctifino Agreed that is very good. Regardless of the price though it still to me felt like just a chipped GTI with power to all wheels. You have to explore the market and for me the M135i was the better buy for the money you were spending. 5-10k less and it would have defo have been a GTi. I really like VW a lot. I would own another GTi again which would then be my third so! They just need to up their game a little on the multimedia and finishings which BMW and Audi just run them over with. When you are charging all that money the customer deserves the same as your competitors are offering.
@pftphd
9 жыл бұрын
Shion Earl Fully loaded R will be $40K even, including delivery. M135i is not an option in the US. Base M325i is $44.05K in refrigerator white, $44.6K in any other color. That's no AWD (I have snow where I live), no leather, no nav, no heated seats, no keyless entry, etc. The lowest price used M235i I could find (2014) in searching my favorite sites is $43.7K. I'm not a big fan of BMW, and $40K is already more than I should spend, so I'm happy with my choice to go w/the R. For my checklist, it's the best value. I don't think someone who chooses the BMW has to be an idiot; his/her criteria are just different.
@ShionHyrezUK
9 жыл бұрын
pftphd BMW's are useless in the snow unless 4x. So that makes your decision the R I agree.
@MrGlobali
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, Chris Harris, for wonderful, excellent and wonderful reviews. IMHO, Chris Harris reviews are at the top of cars reviews, they are professional and enjoyable.
@carterrobinson7735
3 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing year over year the M235i goes toe to toe with just about every car. It’s such a versatile platform the BMW is, but the golf is pretty bad ass though too.
@seven2uno
9 жыл бұрын
Well done Chris, Good move, was really looking forward to watching this one in full! Thank you.
@cup_and_cone
9 жыл бұрын
7:51 - "...but the BMW seems to reward more at the top end." 10:57 - "...and the [Golf R] motor pulls more convincingly at the top end than the BMW." So which is it?!?! The video says each one is better than the other at top end. D'oh!
@marcusb9694
6 жыл бұрын
I think it's both. The BMW's power is biased toward the top end of the rev range. Rev for rev with the Golf though, in the top end of the rev range the R pulls harder than the BMW. He also mentions the R has the torque down low, presumably why he refers to it as having the better motor of the two. It's got it everywhere. As an R owner, can confirm. Power everywhere. TL;DR BMW rewards more at the top end than at the bottom end. Not more than the R though. I know I'm three years late, but there you go for anyone else confused by this.
@pikachupowers
6 жыл бұрын
your comment about the BMW is absolutely not true. this engine has a strong low end and mid range. it doesn't pull that hard to redline because of it's smaller twin scroll turbo
@samytaib6778
6 жыл бұрын
thechosendude l
@Zeracho
5 жыл бұрын
@@marcusb9694 I'm not knocking the R because I want one for winter/2nd car (currently have a 135i), but you really should look at a n54/n55 (54 especially) dyno chart before making those claims =p.
@15october91
5 жыл бұрын
HAHA
@brandonfriesen5389
8 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 Golf R and work at BMW. I drive the M235, M2 and M240i all the time and they are brilliant cars. But they are WAY to small. I'd have to compare the R to a 335 or 340i for size and interior dimensions. I wrote the 2 series off as soon as I sat in it.
@IceFish.
8 жыл бұрын
ones a boxy hatch and ones a coupe wtf are you on about
@marco1173
7 жыл бұрын
He's got a point. I sat in a 135 coupe and the only space there was for driver and front passenger. The rear seat was basically sized for kids. The Golf is much more spacious.
@SOPM944
7 жыл бұрын
but a 1 series hatch is just as spacious in the back, BMW coupes have always been a little cramped up back, not really designed for a family are they!
@pheonixfps9248
3 жыл бұрын
The holes in the rotor are dimple holes, still designed to remove the gasses, but prevent the disc from cracking in comparison to complete holes drilled through, known for cracking.
@USBcable
8 жыл бұрын
My brain says Golf R, but my heart says M235i
@mr.porkchop6377
4 жыл бұрын
My wallet says 92 civic
@v12mercedes-benz72
4 жыл бұрын
Finally depends on your wallet😂😂
@nicwestley8309
4 жыл бұрын
My heart says bmw / my pocket says Larda riva
@DJFutureBass
4 жыл бұрын
No
@dadthelad
4 жыл бұрын
My surfboards say Golf R hands down. Perfect car, fits all your stuff and your crew, goes like a rocket, handles amazing, cruises quiet and comfy, but comes to life when you drop it down a gear or two.
@UnusualAttitudes
5 жыл бұрын
Great review, Chris- thanks! I agree with all of your statements, and with that, I'll be buying a Golf R with the DSG. After years & years of 6 speed Audis, I'm ready for a DSG car to drive to work! LOL
@RickCosmo
7 жыл бұрын
thanks Chris for this and hundreds of hrs. of auto pleasure...votes are in...Chris Harris is #1
@winglessang31
6 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris you do some of the best car reviews
@dominicancash
8 жыл бұрын
That golf r is no joke .
@jaredbennett4761
8 жыл бұрын
When the focus rs rolls out it will be
@Idontwantausernamist
8 жыл бұрын
+Jared Bennett Sure, did they resume production yet or still trying to rectify these "issues" detected on pre-production cars? Golf was, is and will be here for muuuch long
@anx1300c
8 жыл бұрын
The only joke will be when the Focus driver vomits all over his hideous interior, because it's, umm....hideous.
@dominicancash
8 жыл бұрын
+Jared Bennett my friend let me educate you a beat on this golf are lol the focus RS comes with Michelin pilot super sport tires thats why around the track on the reviews is a bit faster than the golf r , fit some pss tires on the r and it will beat it , 2 the piece of shit ecoboost engine that they use on the mustang is tuned to produce more power , the golf r is not , just put it like this for that rs to produce the power that stage 2 apr R does you will need much more than just a tune and down pipe , and lets not talk about the interior cuz is a joke on the rs.
@Idontwantausernamist
8 жыл бұрын
dominicancash To be honest the Golf R is a nice all-round package but nothing special around a track. It will be slower than a Focus RS even with the same tyres on. It has less power, less torque, and no limited slip differential, let alone the sophisticated all-wheel-drive system of the Focus is miles ahead of the stupid Haldex. Would I get the Focus? Not at all. It's uglier, feels cheaper and its drivetrain reliability has yet to be proven. However in terms of performance it will beat the R in any situation except (maybe) drag racing because of the manual vs DSG disadvantage.
@olavo1mc
9 жыл бұрын
four exhausts... LIKE A FERRARI!!!
@roadhouseguy
2 жыл бұрын
Back here in 2022 looking at the Golf R, after owning the M235i for 5 years. Loved it, everything said is true, the noise, the uncorrupted steering. However I tire of BMW and their horrid reliability. The dealership keeps breaking my car.
@sergiosergides6645
Жыл бұрын
I just bought the Mk 7 R based on this review. Chris Harris for me is the best car reviewer on all fronts
@ThePedalDance
5 жыл бұрын
Buying a manual Golf R! Super excited:)
@JasonFiske
8 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you. Best of Luck on Top Gear. Don't change. This is a great tone that works. Fun and enthusiastic without any fake foolishness.
@Antherez94
4 жыл бұрын
I work for an Audi dealer, so I've driven my fare share of S and RS models, but... I love my MK 7.5 Golf R. It puts more of a smile on my face than any of the Audi's I've driven.
@rogernewton7831
4 жыл бұрын
One of the best road cars out there today. I use my 7.5 19 plate as an everyday car regardless of the weather. Had 3 golfs over the years including the V6 4M. This is way out the best thing they ever created.
@loisli1338
9 жыл бұрын
Awesome to have you independent from /drive. Can't wait for the future films. Just like the old times.
@calibredki2852
9 жыл бұрын
engine in the front, manual shifter in the middle, and power out back. page 1, chapter 1 of the heterosexual handbook. Jeremy Clarkson said it first. Chris you improved it with the mention of a v6 ^__^
@kylanwalters37
8 жыл бұрын
+Calibred Ki *Petrolsexual ;)
@maenuuu
8 жыл бұрын
+Calibred Ki V6???
@hjembrentkent6181
8 жыл бұрын
+Calibred Ki The bimmer has a straight six son
@repeatrepeatrepeat
8 жыл бұрын
long live straight six
@calibredki2852
8 жыл бұрын
must've been tired. but just a 6 cylinder in general. lol
@RollingShutter
4 жыл бұрын
"four exhausts, like a Ferrari" cracks me up. Came back to this video just for this sentence.
@RaymondLo84
5 жыл бұрын
we can tell how much fun he had based on the dead insects on the license plate
@TucsonDude
5 жыл бұрын
I've owned both, but it's the BMW win for me. The Golf is a high-pressure turbo-4 with a FWD bias over the AWD. The BMW is a true inline 6 RWD car with a bit of boost.
@Jaibee27
9 жыл бұрын
i love how he drifts. unlike the bullshit drifting with excessive smoke he drifts beautifully.
@xBuzz996
3 жыл бұрын
after i've owned a golf r myself i am surprised Chris Harris thought it was super comfortable, whereas in real life with a bit of a coarse road the Golf R was really loud and had a somewhat bumpyride. What I think Chris Harris has done is put the wrong shoes on. This is a car you should almost be able to drive in flip flops, yet Chris Harris wore his racing shoes. As he did in let's say a Ferrari or a Porsche, making the Golf R seem more comfortable than it is. You could argue the roads he drove on were supersmooth but that only favors my point. Any car is smooth on smooth roads. Or maybe it's just me being picky and actually growing away from these hot hatches and beginning to open my eyes for big execute rides. But I could never say that i dont love my Golf R. Best damn all rounder ever.
@mookie1247
8 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your Top gear gig amazing can't wait to watch it this summer ☀️☀️☀️
@Scorpio1075
9 жыл бұрын
Nobody does it better than Chris Harris! Another great review! Thanks... or should I say Cheers!
@Osprey1994
5 жыл бұрын
It's funny that a professional like Chris loves the Golf R, and then there's a bunch of random people saying it's meh.
@iAmCodeMonkey
4 жыл бұрын
Most commenters on the Internet think they "know stuff." Everyone has an opinion.
@sevenz1471
6 жыл бұрын
best review of an R I've come across & from the only person I've seen capable of driving one. .... well done, ...subscribed.
@stevensaunders982
9 жыл бұрын
Awesome to have Chris doing his won thing! Wish you great success on this channel!
@alexandrefernandes9233
9 жыл бұрын
VW Golf R for me! All weather car!
@abbashaider8668
5 жыл бұрын
Alexandre Fernandes You ever heard of X-Drive?
@abbashaider8668
5 жыл бұрын
@Matthew Its not tho
@timothymountain7868
9 жыл бұрын
all cars look better in person. people told me the R is boring looking. until I saw one for myself in Halfords carport. it looks awesome and luxurious..
@bluex217
6 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY thank you.. saw a lapiz blue MK7 R in person the other day it was GORGEOUS. People say the R is "understated", but in person as you say it looks blatantly luxurious which a significant purpose..
@digitalsaint2040
9 жыл бұрын
I guess im just happy that haldex is at last acting like real full time awd. I hated previous versions that never seemed to engage in time except from a dig.
@heroesontrack
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris! Based on your review, I went out and bought an M235i Drive. I had a Golf R (mkVI) and found the BMW's rear drive bias just too compelling for the R's front / Haldex bias. BTW- I hope you get a show on Velocity nor another mainstream US network. Thanks for your hard work for us...
@Hunter1Lane
6 жыл бұрын
John Ballentine the mk6 and 7 two totally different cars.
@lejohnbrames
5 жыл бұрын
0:38 that gap grinds my gears
@derschneller
8 жыл бұрын
I had to come back and rewatch this one after tonight's M2 review on the best Top Gear segment to date.
@medotorg2720
7 жыл бұрын
There's one thing that needs to be said: The Golf in as actual family car that can carry 4 full sized people. I agree the BMW is a wonderful throwback, and if you're a single guy it's a great ride. But the Golf R is a jack of all trades that can do a lot of things amazingly well, and is safer in inclement weather. It's a little less grin inducing at the extreme moments, but it's a lot more practical in the millions of moments in between.
@sam1741
9 жыл бұрын
glad that BMW brings back the 'old school handling feel' to new cars been missing that a lot
@keeturbo
9 жыл бұрын
Most of us would want the BMW thinking we can do the same stuff chris is doing with it when in reality we actually need the golf in order not to wrap ourselves around a tree.BMW=fantasy driving,Golf=realistic every day mortal behind the wheel who runs out of talent when over steer lasts longer than 5secs.
@achilleaustin
5 жыл бұрын
well I'd rather learn to be a good driver in the BMW than be an incompetent one in a gofl
@daleboyles3805
4 жыл бұрын
Peter Schmitz Every other weekend I see a crashed bmw at a roundabout. Not much more to be said
@Feroxing12
4 жыл бұрын
LOL talk about yourself
@alexserrano2850
8 жыл бұрын
So the M235i's stock dampening is less complicated, It's RWD, longer geared, has a inline 6 and yet weighs less. I also tend to think (rationally or not) that it's gonna be more reliable. The BMW seems like a perfect GTish sports car for the road if you don't need the AWD.
@ChromeWrapz
9 жыл бұрын
I've got the Mk6 GTI and I absolutely love it! Glad Chris agrees lol
@klausm5460
9 жыл бұрын
Of course that uneven hot-hatch vs. coupe comparison was due to the recent presentation of the 2-series coupe, otherwise the M135i xdrive would have been the perfect match. I can understand the raving about the latest performance Golfs, the MQB technology package seems to have changed the rules. However I love my M135i manual, but when BMW shifts the next-gen 1-series to a FWD platform the Golf R could be an alternative being worth looking at.
@robeldred4731
8 жыл бұрын
I bought the R every time I get in it I fall in love all over again. I do pizza delivery part time and even after 4 1/2 hours on average of drive time I'm always disappointed when I pull back into the garage, because it's OVER and I always have to look back at it before I close and lock the door......LOVE this little BEAUT. Mine is the silver and black.
@danesebruno
8 жыл бұрын
+Rob Eldred You bought a Golf R and you do pizza delivery? Somebody has problems with their priorities
@robeldred4731
8 жыл бұрын
+Bruno Danese someone is pretty judgemental......maybe one should think twice before they put there own issues on someone else. Anyway my point not to be diluted by your preconceived judgement is this is an AWESOME car!!!
@stevel8430
8 жыл бұрын
+Bruno Danese whats rong with that . I used to do it to . You get to rag your car while someone else pays the fuel and get free pizza . its all win.
@15october91
6 жыл бұрын
You can't go wrong with the M140i shadow edition.
@mohamedgaaloul2753
6 жыл бұрын
Correct!! We should compare apple to apple.
@mrhankey8283
5 жыл бұрын
Are u still thinking the same after the winter we’ve had??
@mrhankey8283
5 жыл бұрын
Jack Scouse ///M140i I’m not saying about skidding off snow covered tarmac and into an early grave u muppet, I’m talking about driving up a steep hill and then u have to stop and manoeuvre around a bmw which has given up! Are you really telling me that there’s no difference between Awd and rwd just as you drive normally you moron?
@lasseterschluse164
6 жыл бұрын
My Dad drives a Golf R, but i cant imagine how harris is able to drift it :D DSG rocks btw!
@jessicastrat9376
5 жыл бұрын
How is the engine noise “fake”? Is it running through the speakers?
@ChronicMane9
4 жыл бұрын
H Strat part of it is yes
@IKenexPSN
4 жыл бұрын
and this is why i choose my Golf R. Respect both cars!
@johnroberts9845
8 жыл бұрын
after test driving a oynx white 3 door Manual with leather and upgrade 19 inch alloys I must say what a car. .. better than anything I had tried. placed the order exactly as the one i test drove on Saturday counting the weeks down until delivery 😆😆😆😆😆
@atticus6572
9 жыл бұрын
I'd take the M235i. At least until the S1 comes to North America.
@xboy4331
8 жыл бұрын
I would love to get an S1
@993ts
8 жыл бұрын
+Trygve Germo if they came to the US I would by on the first day they were on sale
@vyrnmn
8 жыл бұрын
+Samidare the M235i is miles better than the S1. Loads faster, for a start.
@atticus6572
8 жыл бұрын
James Franklin Subjective, although I'm not denying the M235i's quicker. .
@vyrnmn
8 жыл бұрын
Samidare I suppose it's subjective, but more people would agree that understeer is worse than oversteer for a performance car. Hence, the BMW is "better" in that sense.
@edwatters5788
7 жыл бұрын
funny how none of the other reviewers can drift the golf R and yet here is Chris Harris indulging in massive slides in a VW Golf R.
@suryamp12
7 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a Chris Harris review of the S2000.
@andyspinks9996
3 жыл бұрын
Love my mk7 R. Brilliant.
@ladin425
9 жыл бұрын
What a review! Fair and honest!
@ClintWestmetal88
9 жыл бұрын
There's an awful lot of infantile bickering in these comments, I suspect from a lot of people that haven't even driven a performance car. Oh and, I'll take the BMW.
@nl3712
7 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I own a bmw but it's just such a pity they're so ugly.
@timdoll4950
5 жыл бұрын
I've had plenty of performance cars, including a Ruf R Turbo 911, and I still bought the Golf R. It's so much more practical for daily living.
@M3spooni
8 жыл бұрын
The practicality of the golf is a huge strong point IMO. The cargo room is immense! The mk7 R will be my next car. I almost pulled the trigger on one but got a screaming deal on a mk6 R 2 door with extras that's faster than a stock 7. I wish the mk7 came in 2 door.
@frig200
8 жыл бұрын
+eriknorcal M135i... same 6cylinder engine in a hatcback body
@creativecontrol9047
8 жыл бұрын
+eriknorcal Mk7 does come in a two door! I just bought one and I love it!
@gordonlister4992
8 жыл бұрын
+CreativeControl904 not in USA... All mk7s are 5 door only
@creativecontrol9047
8 жыл бұрын
The R only comes in 4 door. I have a 2 door MK7 GTI and live in Florida.
@Finnoctane
9 жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris :)
@DPPremier
9 жыл бұрын
would be great if the quad pipes on the R were optional, I'd go for the understated version
@ibo1137
4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@HelloHi-tt5sl
5 жыл бұрын
The golf R looks like a sporty shopping trolley with 4 exhausts
@carl9184
7 жыл бұрын
Really a big fan of Mr.Harris and it's fair to say that he likes his Beamers
@user-tk4ys7xs1l
9 жыл бұрын
Bring back the old dual exhaust tips for the Golf R. It looks cringe worthy with 4.
@exothermal.sprocket
6 жыл бұрын
Tuners won't leave that heavy-pig exhaust system on it anyway.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
4 жыл бұрын
The Golf fits better as an only or primary car. What the BMW does best is done better by a motorcycle. Im certain I'd have more fun in the BMW than the Golf, but then I'd have even more fun on a bike, and I still can't fit a ski or camping trip in the BMW.
@ZenGamer97
9 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone get the Golf.. Just get the BMW and go sideways!
@Roxak
9 жыл бұрын
Says the 17 year old kiddo...
@ZenGamer97
9 жыл бұрын
yes... i have a 1.4 Corsa. You can't argue with the point at hand though.
@android61242
9 жыл бұрын
***** eh gti is too expensive for what it is. BMW"S are generally overpriced but you tend not to to feel so shitty about paying for one because it usually delivers. It's not worth it for everyone.
@ZenGamer97
9 жыл бұрын
Bob Builder Second hand E46 or E92 is the way to go. Tough to find a manual E46 that hasn't been thrashed too hard though with decent miles, we all know what BMW drivers are like. But you can get one for about 10K and it's ONE OF THE GREATEST CARS OF OUR TIME.
@Dankboi420
9 жыл бұрын
NO, you'll crash it.
@MrArchie800
7 жыл бұрын
If I and was a bit of a rebel (used to be :-( ) and had plenty money for a second car I’d probably go for the BMW. As it is I’ll probably go for the ‘R’ in DSG form. Both fantastic but as an ‘all-rounder’ the Golf edges it for me.
@austen2382
7 жыл бұрын
Golf r then use the money saved from the bmw to tune it to 450whp.
@MrTitaniumBG
4 жыл бұрын
Best part about the golf R is it comes in an estate too
@laetitiajack9596
8 жыл бұрын
The golf is the best all round car but BMW is the nicest with the 6 cylinder engine And interior
@kdoran709
9 жыл бұрын
What the fuck? Mk4 r32 is a great car, so is the 1.8t gti
@kdoran709
9 жыл бұрын
***** yeah I'm not quite sure about the hate either.. I love my mk4 jetta 1.8t. There is a huge fan base for mk4s alone.
@kraenk12
9 жыл бұрын
The only problem was it's ESP. This sometimes was the reason for people hating on race tracks.
@ShadowFalcon
9 жыл бұрын
Mk III and Mk IV Golf GTI just felt lardy. Mk I and Mk II felt crisp and mechanical. And the Mk V, and Mk VI were a return to form of the crisp, precise hothatch.
@iainmurray9961
9 жыл бұрын
MrFalconfly As you said, the Mk 4 was too heavy and soft to ever be considered a drivers car... Numb steering and a crappy feel through the gearbox. And the Mk 4 2.0 GTi was a bit of a joke - only 115bhp, so all show and no go! Some good engines where available though from the 1.8t, 1.9TDi GTs (130/150), 2.8 V5 and the R32 3.2 V6 sound gorgeous.
@LeeFinneyZ9
9 жыл бұрын
Mk4 1.8 GTi is a good car. As a " Hot " hatchback - It's pretty much Pants !!! Too soft, Too heavy & not enough power - Fact !
@dsmanter
9 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to get mine whenever the 6 spd manual comes out!
@tshedzamukwevho1240
4 жыл бұрын
Golf r all the way. I wish vw more of a great future
@madant7777
9 жыл бұрын
Chris, you really need to review the new SEAT Cupra 280 in the same way!
@zemekiel
9 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it make more sense to test the M235i xDrive against this Volkswagen rival?
@wakiwest
7 жыл бұрын
zemekiel no m235i x drive in U.K. Unfortunately
@bthvnyt
9 жыл бұрын
Yes you rarely see apples being compared with apples. I have a feeling it's the manufacturers who don't want direct logical comparisons to happen. They don't want us in on the truth. They prefer to keep us guessing. They don't want to hurt sales you know. So I wouldn't blame Chris or other test drivers. At least we get some info about these great cars. I myself slightly prefer the R but would be happy with the 235i :)
@opmike343
5 жыл бұрын
I understand that's part of the charm, but I wish, at the very least, VW would offer a more aggressive appearance package. Something like the RS or Veloster N for those of us that don't want to be quite THAT low-key.
@NippyMoto
4 жыл бұрын
Buying a manual Golf R is like buying an auto Miata, it defeats the point of the car entirely. The DSG just is something else.
@zounds13
3 ай бұрын
To me it's the other way around. DSG defeats the point of the car entirely, the point being driving enjoyment. I'll take manual, and the involvement in entails, over DSG any day. I absolutely DGAF if it's slower.
@sufficetosay
9 жыл бұрын
What kills me about these reviews is the fact that an xdrive M235i wasn't used in the comparison..So you are comparing apples to oranges.
@maveric0738
7 жыл бұрын
I'll take VW's Golf R!! I like my MK4 R32!!!
@jamiecox2506
7 жыл бұрын
The red stripe down the side of the BM is really Tacky!
@symonf1966
9 жыл бұрын
The BMW looks a bit like an escort from the side and the rear.
@fretingtopolice
9 жыл бұрын
So that is a BIG plus escorts have always looked good
@WtZuck
9 жыл бұрын
As a past Mk IV GTI 1.8t owner, I'm trying to be subjective here, but I don't really see much wrong with the 2003+ Mk IV's. It was the best hatch available in the states at the time. Decent power and handling for the price point, oodles of available cargo space, and in my experience, solid reliability sans the electrical bits and timing belt woes every 60k miles. Plus the R32 is going to reach near legendary status someday (and likely appreciate in value) with the combination of it's narrow angle, great sounding V6 and AWD.
@WtZuck
9 жыл бұрын
That being said, the Mk IV wasn't ground breaking by any means like the MkI and II were. Maybe that's what Chris was referring to. The Mk IV was a bit "soft" compared to it's earlier ancestors.
@Cafferssss
9 жыл бұрын
BMW + LSD
@fazer12779
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent review as usual. I’d like to see a drag race to 150mph also :)
@realtalk7571
5 жыл бұрын
Golf R all day everyday hot hatch, nothing else compares to it
@BigSaulo
6 жыл бұрын
Went from a mk5 gti to a BMW 535xi. I miss my gti, it had a lot of character and fun to drive, even though the the BMW is faster. I think the Golf R will be my next car.
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