The Zora swimming is a definite pain. As far as bosses are concerned: -Gyorg is still an awkward boss but it’s at least an improvement over randomly flailing at it -Twinmold got a little worse I’d say. -Tatl and the Bombers notebook make a bit of sense because I don’t remember those causing me any trouble when I played it. -Best improvement is being able to move time in more specific increments, thus cutting down on waiting. I can see why people still prefer the N64 version, and I’m not necessarily gonna say the 3DS version is better, but if it’s someone’s first way to experience the game then I don’t think they’ll be disappointed.
@shaide5483
4 жыл бұрын
Well, now that’ll sound like a good 1st game for a Zelda baby like myself
@Nosretep
4 жыл бұрын
Twinmold is better compared to it's braindead N64 counterpart that only rams into you.
@chironthecuddley6144
4 жыл бұрын
All of the boss fights except Majora are far worse in my opinion because they can't be defeated in different ways like the original and Twinmold especially is so boring and way too long for it's own good in the remake. Chugga forgot to mention it, but the Deku mask also got heavily nerfed movement as well, you can no longer spin hop for extra distance and you have to get a running start to get JUST enough distance to to reach all of the lily pads in the swamp, so it really hurts the pace of the game.
@Nosretep
4 жыл бұрын
@@chironthecuddley6144 I think that's a buff. Because fights could've easily been beaten in seconds in the 64 version.
@chironthecuddley6144
4 жыл бұрын
@@Nosretep I never beat any of the bosses in seconds unless I went back with the Fierce Deity Mask in the original but it always felt like the perfect amount of time to me no matter how you tackled it, but the 3DS ones all just feel a little too long for me due to the heavy railroading. Gyorg and Twinmold got the worst of it. Gyorg now relies purely on RNG with the water mines and Twinmold is so tedious to fight.
@PokeMaster22222
4 жыл бұрын
You know, if you install homebrew on your 3DS, there's a restoration patch that fixes quite a few of the changes (Zora swimming, Deku hopping speed, etc.) and adds a few more improvements on top.
@nascour5991
2 жыл бұрын
Chugga is very against any kind of modding, emulation , fangames. He prefers to play on original hardware
@PokeMaster22222
2 жыл бұрын
@@nascour5991 I know; just putting it out there that fans have improved on the 3DS remake.
@sasaki999pro
Жыл бұрын
@@nascour5991 His playthrough of Mother 3 is both modded AND emulated.
@thatdsiguy8919
Жыл бұрын
@@sasaki999pro He was okay with emulating that and Mother 1 when he first did that let's play, because that was the only possible way to play them in English (Earthbound Beginnings had not been released yet at that point).
@Inactivechannel-r6
Жыл бұрын
@@nascour5991 why is he very against it?
@Kaleid0skull
5 жыл бұрын
the bombers notebook never annoyed me. the only change that annoyed me was the zora mask.
@neonmajora8454
4 жыл бұрын
Snowy I was only really annoyed by the aesthetic differences, the deku hopping, what you said, and the boss changes. Also the ice arrow glow spots.
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
Zora swimming is only an issue without Chateau Romani. The Bomber's Notebook NEVER goes away.
@dylanshadowstar9779
5 жыл бұрын
Grab some dam hearts!
@OmegaX5000
5 жыл бұрын
This game is very stingy with recovery hearts.
@Pikachu2Ash
5 жыл бұрын
silly Dylan this is prerecorded.
@rigistroni
5 жыл бұрын
Personally, as someone who's 100% both versions and MM is one of my favorite games of all time. I overall prefer the 3Ds version. The only thing is dislike is the new Zora swimming, and even then it was never a huge problem just a minor inconvenience.
@TotalFreakZoid
5 жыл бұрын
I have to agree. I can understand why people wouldn't like the boss fights but to be honest I remember Majora's mask for it's side quests not it's temples so even though the bosses are different I appreciate that they took the time to remake them. Even the Twin Mold fight even though it took me a long time to complete. It felt innovated and fun.
@MrMarekwasik
5 жыл бұрын
The worst thing for me is the Deku mask momentum being butchered so that a collectible can only be obtained in an extremely specific setup. You are WAAAAY to slow in 3D, making a lot of jumps awkward.
@Mqstodon
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrMarekwasik but that's one transformation that you'll realistically use only at the start of the game, and even then everything else is betyer
@nascour5991
2 жыл бұрын
They also ruined odalwa and the new boss phases are cool but also unnecessarily tedious
@Flareboxx
5 жыл бұрын
The whole video "Come Chugga, either just die or find some hearts". At the VERY end of the video he dies lol
@seereebee
5 жыл бұрын
Majoras Mask 3D does make some strange changes (like the Zora swimming and Ice Arrows). But the changes to the bombers notebook, the improved double song of time, the improved graphics and portability more than make up for it. Majoras Mask 3D is the definitive version without a doubt. It's much more accessible and less frustrating to new players. The bombers notebook was near useless in the original, which led to a bunch of cryptic moments.
@aliciacleeland2257
5 жыл бұрын
Only thing I don't like about the bombers notebook is when you fail at a quest it has to pause the whole game to say "hey you suck!" Idk that's just my opinion!
@therandomguy2212
3 жыл бұрын
Accessible doesn’t exactly equal better game, because it’s only focusing on new players and people who struggled with it and ignoring the people who didn’t struggle with it and enjoyed the game’s challenge.
@Ty-yy7zr
Жыл бұрын
Motion control aiming was a godsend that was needed. I still prefer the 3d versions of both OoT and MM, if not just for that. Aiming with the control stick on the original controller or more recent controller for virtual console was rage inducing at several times.
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
No, the Bomber's Notebook is by far the WORST change. It pops up every time you do something side quest related, sometimes even through the main story, and there's no option to turn it off.
@stellarthefeller
5 жыл бұрын
I don't have a problem with 3DS ports. I find it sad that towards the end of the 3DS's life, a lot of the games are starting to get shelved for no reason what soever. A lot of people are missing out on some *really* nice hidden gems.
@mightbeanerd
3 жыл бұрын
I like the bosses in the original MM because instead of the normal "hit the eye" kinda stuff, you get to relentlessly beat the living crap out of the bosses, anyone that really likes the bosses in Majora's Mask knows exactly what I mean
@axandelon9299
5 жыл бұрын
most of the changes they made for the 3ds version never really bothered me. there were a few things though. Mainly the zora swimming and the fact that odolwa is a complete joke.
@nascour5991
5 жыл бұрын
He was already a complete joke though
@Paradox-xm9zq
4 жыл бұрын
Odolwa went from a joke to the funniest comedy ever made
@Mqstodon
3 жыл бұрын
Odolwa is actually fun to fight now though. Before it was mindless button mashing
@therandomguy2212
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mqstodon HOW IS HE FUN?!?! he’s the most pathetic boss in the 3D version
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
@@Mqstodon And now he's mindless Deku Flower stun, then attack. He doesn't even attack you at all while flying.
@SuperGamer61499
5 жыл бұрын
While I don't have enough experience in either version, I feel it depends on how you feel. Like, the game flow of the masks is more mechanically satisfactory in N64. But, 3DS has a lot more conveniences like having an aiming reticle for Deku Link Bubbles and gyro controls. So it ultimately depends.
@cyndaquilofpower2562
5 жыл бұрын
UNPOPULAR OPINION! I liked the changes to the Zora swimming. I know it’s weird, but I felt more in control when it came to tight areas like the great bay temple and using magic to quickly swim never really became a major issue for me, especially since you can still use the initial boost forward without magic if you need to move quickly. imo Gyorg was slightly worse as a result, however, since it combined the already clunky boss fight with the shield being harder to use. Twinmold, while I can’t say it’s a better fight overall, did make me chuckle when Link super Mario 64’s the second twinmold and then slams him into the ground. The bomber’s notebook being a lot more helpful trumped the extra textboxes I would need to click through since it made managing the 700 sidequests a lot easier. I didn’t even notice Tatl had more to say...so I guess there’s that. Something that I did like about the game was the stone mask placement. Instead of making it available from the bat, have it in the middle of the gerudo fortress so you at least have to do a little bit of stealthing rather than being able to cheese the whole thing. I also think the gyro aiming made the bow minigames a lot more enjoyable than what they were before. Overall I think that the 3D version is better even though I wouldn’t say it’s the definitive version to play.
@aliciacleeland2257
5 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I played MM 3D I had such a difficult time with Gyorg (2nd phase) and the Zora swimming? So freaking what! It makes you have to actually buy Chateu Romani! Another kind of cool change is how you get the Giants mask halfway through the twinmold battle! Yeah! You may have to fight red with your bare fists but honestly it's not near as easy as just mashing B! And it was so annoying if you went too far you'd step out of boundaries and have to restart your battle! The 64 was only more difficult cause we were younger than! I say if you don't like the "remake" don't play it.
@robindabank9616
4 жыл бұрын
The only thing i really dislike is not being able to swim fast without using magic. I understand why the default swimming mode was nerfed but i wish I could go fast without using magic or chateau romani
@Paradox-xm9zq
4 жыл бұрын
IMO the N64 has the better stone mask placement because it's out of the way, so the game rewards you for exploring off the beaten path
@Mqstodon
3 жыл бұрын
@@Paradox-xm9zq i mean not really out of the way. The dude is in a circle of conveniently places rocks in the way to the area, pretty obvious and in the way
@Paradox-xm9zq
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mqstodon It's in an area where you're not supposed to be yet if you're just following the main story. If you're just doing the main story and not exploring off to the side, you will miss it
@TheAbsol7448
5 жыл бұрын
I'm currently playing through MM3D, and I'm really enjoying it so far, though Zora swimming is stupid. It's just an inconvenience, and isn't a real deal breaker.
@tannerbrodt8419
5 жыл бұрын
If it’s your first time playing Majora’s Mask, go for the 3DS version. The quality of life things they changed will make it easier to enjoy for your first play through. Don’t let people scare you away by saying Zora swimming sucks. It’s just fine, people are just use to how it was in the N64 version.
@Pikachu2Ash
5 жыл бұрын
Careful with that, Chugga is one of those people who doesn't like the Zora swimming. "scaring people off" is a bit of a strong phrase.
@OnlyGoken
5 жыл бұрын
The Zora swimming is bad but didnt have to be. I feel forcing the slow and awkward controls on the player... A: Gives them no time to practice Zora swimming for the Great Bay Temple. Sure you can use magic but your hands will be cramped or you'll be afraid of running out of magic or you'd buy a Chateau de Romani constantly so you'd grind for 200 rupees constantly. These teach the player only to use the classic swimming in specific situations which they'll have no practice for. B: Will make Great Bay an awful area. The Zora swimming made it fun in the original but making it slow in the remake makes Great Bay Hyrule Field levels of bland, boring, and uninteresting. Great Bay gave the players a good time to get used to Zora swimming in the original but it's slow as a snail in the remake. C: Makes the Bottle collecting minigame and other games that require Zora swimming harder because you gotta go out of your way to grab Magic Containers while trying to make sharp turns that the player has had no time to practice. It's bad, and not because it's not like the original. I see what they were going for with making it slower for areas that require sharper turning but why not tap a button or touch the bottom screen to control the speed? Then players get the best of both worlds. The new players can use the slow swimming to their leisure and can master the original swimming freely while veterans can jump straight into the remake with no worries. Plus there's other bad changes like the Deku's physics being horrible
@theoaremevano3227
5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say "just fine" so much as, "you can live with it". I think the biggest difference is whether you like the original idea of the cycle mechanic and not being able to just save and reload at the same spot in a cycle, or if that makes you uncomfortable. That's the most common reason I hear for people saying they couln't get into MM.
@djoshawott2850
5 жыл бұрын
It’s sluggish in 3DS, as someone who never made it to Zora in the original, but yeah
@biskitvixxn
5 жыл бұрын
It's not just the Zora swimming. It's also the twinmold fight, ice arrows being used in specific spots, gimped deku link speed, and the nerfed deku palace.
@thelurker8169
5 жыл бұрын
This is just a facade. His real reason for disliking the remake is out of spite for what it did to Masaea's Doggy Race
@LightbladeRiulo
5 жыл бұрын
“HES IN LAST PLACE!”
@metamayto
5 жыл бұрын
The only thing that ever bothered me in the MM remake was how fucking long the Twinmold fight took. That fight was so painful.
@emmbeesea
5 жыл бұрын
What is that mysterious beeping noise? Kinda catchy.
@medoagamer9497
5 жыл бұрын
Snape snape surverus snape.
@onebulbyboi7499
5 жыл бұрын
Think its the low health sound
@OrangeKyle91
5 жыл бұрын
@@medoagamer9497 DUMBLEDORE!
@stealthlock6634
5 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to sing along but it’s like SNAPESNAPESNAPESNAPE
@blooperswitches3625
5 жыл бұрын
"I found the source of the beeping: it's a powder keg!" "YAAAAAAAAAY!"
@ECGCblu
4 жыл бұрын
If you want a definitive version of Majora’s Mask, check out Project Restoration for MM3D. It’s a mod that keeps all of the good changes while reverting the bad ones, plus a few extra conveniences that weren’t in either version.
@anotherjason
5 жыл бұрын
Huh? I don’t _REMEMBER_ this part when i watched it.
@DougsStream
5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this channel could find that lost video of Emile getting really mad about the comments on the art he used for Kumatora during the Mother 3 lp... that video seem to had fallen into the void somehow
@cs82271
5 жыл бұрын
I personally like the 3ds version better cause I could actually beat the game. On the N64 I raged enough with Georg and the great bay temple that when I got to the hell that was the stone tower temple and I failed against twinmold over a hundred times to where I just quit the game all together
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
You couldn't beat Twinmold on the N64?
@2CPhoenix
4 жыл бұрын
I felt that giving every boss an obvious glowing eyeball weak point made them significantly worse. Even setting aside the gameplay, just in concept the weak point made them feel less like tremendous foes and more like... video game bosses.
@Mqstodon
3 жыл бұрын
I mean...tremendous foe? You literally to roll against Goth the whole fight against and mindlessly slash at Owada to win. The weak spots make the fights infinitely more interesting
@lejon73
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mqstodon personally, and i know it's a late reply, adding eyeballs to bosses was always kinda stupid to me, the bosses in MM were cool in design and functionality, and true, you could win against odolwa by mindlessly slashing, i'm not saying thy neccessarily made him easier, but they did make him a lot less fun, and kinda ruined his design by adding a big eyeball weakness instead of the original that could be fought in many different ways, limiting how you fight sometihng doens't neccessarily make it better, i do certainly enjoy a lot of the changes made, but the bosses aren't among them, the added eyeballs just made them look stupid, the 3ds remake wasn't bad, but the fact that it's even debated wich one is better shows a large problem, given that for it's predecessor it's pretty much entirely accepted that the remake is better, my issue is overall, they changed too much, and not everything for the better, i'll give it credit that it did a lot good, but on the flipside, it did some bad as well, you're free to think otherwise, but please don't disrespect others for not agreeing, they don't like the addition of eyeballs, and i can understand why, subjective opinion plays a large factor in what's better or worse for people
@JurassicReptile
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mqstodon disagreed, I think the eyeballs look dumb design wise and also make the fights worse. Odolwa stands around like a moron for the 3DS version, at least in 64 you can use various strategies to try and win and he would always try to attack in different ways.
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
@@JurassicReptile Yeah, he actually attacks you in the original. On the 3DS he's almost as easy as Morpheel
@theminiyosshi2901
4 жыл бұрын
I think his points kinda fits why I didn’t really stuck with the 3DS one for long. I did returned it back once I got the Zorua mask. The one thing that I frustrated me more where the stones that you enter and it gives you little videos on where and how to proceed on with the dungeon, but I always found it not very informational and I wanted to do it without a guide online.
@KayFiOS
3 жыл бұрын
Play the MM3D Project Restoration mod. Whether you're playing it on the 3DS, or an emulator, it's better than playing MM64 or vanilla MM3D imo.
@wumpus976
3 жыл бұрын
I still like the 3DS remake.
@stealthlock6634
5 жыл бұрын
I genuinely thought I was stupid and couldn’t figure out how to Zora swim. It makes me mad that it’s just straight up gone.
@CelestinaakaClonaClox9999
Жыл бұрын
You might as well have Chateu Romani in effect the entire time when doing the Ocean
@AquaLantern
5 жыл бұрын
WAY prefer the 3DS version. There are so... many... damn... SIDEQUESTS in that game that not having a journal system to keep track of it all is a nightmare. It also helps give hints to the more cryptic sidequests like the Stone Mask and the Anju/Kafei quests.
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's soooo cryptic that winning a minigame will give me a reward.
@AquaLantern
Жыл бұрын
@@AkameGaKillfan777 That's not what I meant, smartass. I mean keeping time for appointments like helping defend the farm, when to meet Anju for her quests, and what items are needed for certain fetch-quests. It's just a helpful addition.
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
@@AquaLantern It's intrusive and beats you over the head on what to do even more than Fi in Skyward Sword. They went completely overkill with how it's forced down your throat every 5 seconds, and there's no option to skip it or turn it off, which makes repeat playthroughs a LOT less fun than they should be.
@Nosretep
4 жыл бұрын
Zora Swimming Bomber's Note Book Eyes on bosses(could've used something else) Ice Arrows.
@PerfectKirby
5 жыл бұрын
You know, given that other than being a sequel to OoT, Majora’s Mask is basically its own stand-alone amongst the series, I don’t understand why Emile is getting so worked up over what the “definitive version” is. He has a right to his opinions on the differences between the two, but there’s no “definitive version”. They’re just two different versions, just bloody play them.
@Shane_A_M
5 жыл бұрын
He’s saying that not one version is better than the other, unlike ocarina, where the 3ds version is just better in every way
@theoaremevano3227
5 жыл бұрын
I guess because whenever you want to replay it you have to choose between the faults of one or the other, when they could theoretically have had the best of both worlds. So it ends up being "Man I like this version a lot but I REALLY wish I could have that feature from the other one in THIS version.
@anrecedinghairline6150
3 жыл бұрын
Perfect solution: Rom hack the N64 version to provide a few features of the 3ds version without significantly altering the experience, mod the 3ds version to restore the original features of the N64 version. I have done the latter. One of the best experiences I've ever had. Depressing as fuck though. Not a good idea in conjunction with Neon Genesis Evangelion let me tell you.
@cario0236
4 жыл бұрын
Though I wouldn't call Majora's Mask 3D the definitive version of the game, there are still some pros that make me want to play the 3D version mkre than the n64 version, like how there is gyro aiming, a better bomber's notebook, and a camera option that allows players with a new 3ds/ circle pad pro to control the camera. The camera problem was one of the problems I had in Ocarina of Time 3D because sometimes, when i wanted to face the camera another direction, I would press the z-targetting button only to target something already in view, forcing me to move away from it so I don't target it again, and face the direction I wanted to face.
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
*worse Bomber's Notebook
@kingjonny394
3 жыл бұрын
honestly i think the changes for the better way outshine those for the worst
@JustinHmusic
5 жыл бұрын
I don't dislike Majora's Mask 3D, I just prefer the original.
@1Abyssal
5 жыл бұрын
I always felt that the Skeleton Captain was way easier in MM 3DS than in what I saw on the N64. Dunno if that was me or not
@gamersinacontainer
5 жыл бұрын
Christian Eddings He is easier. You can catch up to him before the first barrier comes up with no effort.
@1Abyssal
5 жыл бұрын
Ah, I just thought I was really good or really lucky. Thanks for answering ☺️
@TheKabuto90
5 жыл бұрын
I never had a problem with him on either version. He was always incredibly easy and I feel like he was supposed to be.
@Mqstodon
3 жыл бұрын
@@gamersinacontainer he's incredibly easy in the original too dude lmao. You just have to shoot him once and he gets stunned for so long you can easily catch up to him
@gamersinacontainer
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mqstodon The fact they took an already easy fight and made it even more pathetic is an even worse point against the remake. They should have buffed him or at least left it the same.
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
Literally who actually complained about the Deku running speed or Zora swimming? I understand getting lost, but there are several changes that were completely unnecessary. Of course now the Bomber's Notebook has to treat the player like they're stupid as if we can't be bothered to retain information for more than 2 seconds.
@DeltaBlazin
4 жыл бұрын
The main change i hate the most is the inverted song of time got majorly nerfed, making it harder to beat temples without that damned moon ruining your day
@Mqstodon
3 жыл бұрын
"Harder"? Maybe just get good? I mean you could beat the dungrons in the first day in the original, that's too op
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
What?
@Percival917
5 жыл бұрын
Oh, please, no hard mode. Majora's Mask is a cryptic pain in the ass as it is.
@Pikachu2Ash
5 жыл бұрын
I mean you wouldn't have to play it.
@Raindrop_2401
5 жыл бұрын
The internet always calls out people who dont play the hard mode as "casual" or just incompatent in general. It doesn't bother me but i know alot of people who just want to enjoy a game but feel that if they don't play on hard mode they are "doing it wrong"
@theoaremevano3227
5 жыл бұрын
I wanted that until I heard about some dumb stuff in OoT's Master Quest. :/
@Pikachu2Ash
5 жыл бұрын
@@Raindrop_2401 And nobody did that in this post so why did you feel the need to state that?.
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
@@theoaremevano3227 Like what?
@gamersinacontainer
5 жыл бұрын
That was fast!
@thefreelancequeen
5 жыл бұрын
BA BEEP BA BEEP
@chriscryer7087
5 жыл бұрын
Deku Link is also broken and the speed boost thing from spinning doesn’t function properly which makes trying to hop from one lily pad to another a pain in the ass at times
@DoctorTex
4 жыл бұрын
Majora’s Mask 3D turned the most unique game in the series into just another generic Zelda adventure. Fantastic swimming became awkward, unclear boss strategies became “Hit the eye”, the feeling you get when you reset time and save your progress is gone when resetting time does NOT save your progress!
@Mqstodon
3 жыл бұрын
I mean, unclear what? Odolwa is just "slash him until he dies". Goth is just "roll into him until he dies". There's nothing strategic about the fights, you're just thinking there was because you probably didn't fight them recently
@DoctorTex
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mqstodon Exactly. There was no definite strategy. You could deal with these bosses however you pleased. “Hit it until it dies” is more of a goal than a strategy. They had no real weak points (except Twinmold).
@therandomguy2212
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mqstodon please give me a reason on how giving them a weak point makes them more difficult?
@wowviewer
5 жыл бұрын
You know the thing that's a bit of a bother is him saying Majora's Mask Remake is a bad game. Maybe it's his sarcasm, but uh.... if it's honest point of view... Sticker Star.
@Paradox-xm9zq
4 жыл бұрын
He didn't say it's a bad game. He just said he doesn't agree with all the changes and wouldn't call it the definitive version of the game
@daltonobrian2596
5 жыл бұрын
At least he doesn't rage about it like last time
@christianj5950
5 жыл бұрын
i'm actually going to defend the zora thing for one weird reason - chateau romani. this gives you the ability to have an infinite magic bar for the remainder of the three-day cycle. i always loved that this drink existed, i loved how fancy the bottle was, i loved that it was the zelda equivalent of an expensive bottle of wine... but considering how easy it was to "cheat" on the use of the goron mask and how often your magic meter naturally gets filled up as you roll into grass, jars, and snowballs... i couldn't in good conscience buy it a lot, even with how incredibly easy it is to get rupees in this game. now, i feel like i have a genuine reason to, and there are actually times when not using the zora fast-swim is convenient. it's not perfect, but i don't think it's as significant a drawback as people say. i can definitely remember an awful lot of "unnecessarily crashing into things" in the original n64 version.
@rjd-kh8et
5 жыл бұрын
I think you could slow down in the original.
@LightbladeRiulo
5 жыл бұрын
rjd1922 while you sorta can it’s one of two speeds. Constantly switching from surface to sink and SPEEDING THROUGH THE WATER. In the 3ds version it gave you a decent swim now so your not constantly wrestling with the controls.
@aliciacleeland2257
5 жыл бұрын
I think of was changed cause in the 64 it wasn't as easy to navigate Great Bay and stone tower without running into walls! I actually like it especially for the beaver race! Cause I don't use the magic shield until the last part and I make it in plenty of time where if I use the magic I run into everything "but" the rings!
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
@@aliciacleeland2257 Which defeats the purpose as you're still required to jump out of the water
@happypasta6
5 жыл бұрын
What the heck?!! I just came from this video?!
@FrenOfAllRodents
Жыл бұрын
I overall agree with Chugga, but what ultimately makes me prefer the N64 ver over the 3ds is that you can play it on a TV.
@Rocketsnail1000
5 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand how people will say the 3ds bosses are easier just because they have the eye as a weak spot. If anything it's more difficult, you have one single spot that counts towards the bosses hp, a weak spot that isn't always present and needs to be drawn out. I'd like someone to tell me how that's easier than the N64 version where the boss' entire body was a hit box and all you had to do was wale on them for a few seconds to defeat them
@aliciacleeland2257
5 жыл бұрын
I agree! You actually have to "fight" to open the weak spot imo mashing a button as the boss flies around you do nothing is easier than making it reveal it's weak point! First time I fought Gyorg & Twinmold it took me forever! To beat them!
@naught_.
4 жыл бұрын
It's not a matter of difficulty, moreso repetition. In almost all Zelda games defeating the bosses involves a simple strategy of using the dungeon item to incapacitate the monster which reveals their obvious weak point, then repeating this process three times until the boss is defeated. While it may be initially confusing to figure out how to stun the boss, once you figure out what to do the fight becomes a simple process at best and a monotonous task with no semblance of creativity at worst. To compensate, Zelda bosses usually get a second phase accordingly to make the fight more interesting, but then again, it's just a matter of using the dungeon item to stun the boss and attack his weak point. Majora's Mask became known as the most unique Zelda game partially because of their boss fights. Instead of being forced to fight a boss one specific way, the player is allowed to use any of their arsenal to defeat them so long as they have the skill and imagination. The only boss fight I recall needing to fight in a specific way is Goht, but if I remember correctly you could stun him with arrows instead of Goron Rolling. Besides that, each Majora's Mask boss encouraged players to be curious enough to defeat them, something most Zelda games lacked. I still remember how to beat every OOT, WW and TP boss after all these years, but I'm still discovering new strategies to defeat any of the 4 MM bosses.
@Mqstodon
3 жыл бұрын
@@naught_. curious? Really? So you're saying slashing mindlessly at odawa is not repetitive? Rolling against Goth for the whole fight isn't repetitive? At least it's fun in the remake, and some bosses even got new phases.
@therandomguy2212
3 жыл бұрын
Bro Odolwa was a fucking pathetic in the 3DS remake
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's every other fucking Zelda game. Also you're delusional if you think Odalwa on the 3DS is harder
@SuperPaladinBros3
2 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with Chugga. I haven't beaten the game yet because Twinmold is a royal pain in the ass to beat. I give the game 6/10 for that reason alone. I do agree that the improvements to the game were very nice and state of the art. But if it weren't Twinmold, this game would have gotten a 10.
@tarponpet
5 жыл бұрын
I understand the addition of weakpoints... but why eyes?
@mantheman4364
2 жыл бұрын
Chugga should start a podcast
@Marliemac
3 жыл бұрын
Zora mask and the new boss mechanics were my only complaint about majora
@sandraskender1388
5 жыл бұрын
*_ther thing i like abpit the 64 version not related to speed running_* that's one thing to say
@ashtonimagine7924
3 жыл бұрын
Having not been blessed with the n64 version or the good ability to complete it for 3ds I have no important opinion on this. Except that definitive editions I believe aren't decided on personal appeal more than content. So MM might just have no definitive, experience what you can and research whats different.
@CelestinaakaClonaClox9999
Жыл бұрын
Can we remove the annoying chapters from a 3 minute video please?
@TheZebbga
4 жыл бұрын
I have only beat Majora's Mask once and I wasn't a huge fan. I like a lot of the ideas but I just felt pressured in the dungeons to much. But I do want to give the game a second chance now that I am an adult because I initially played it on the Wii Virtual Console with a pro controller that was a cheap knock off with analogue stick dead space. Not the best conditions. The problem is I dunno which version I should play, should I play the Wii U VC version with the Gamepad or should I play the 3DS Version my Dad has. Like I might enjoy the game more with the convenience of the remake but stuff about the game looks like it was changed for the worse.
@fredjones2170
4 жыл бұрын
TheZebbga I strongly recommend the 3DS version, without a doubt. I know some fans who grew up with the original don’t like the changes it made, but I think that 90% of them are major improvements that make the game much more fun and much less frustrating to play. The altered Zora swimming mechanic is pretty much the only objective downside, but overall I’d say the 3DS remake IS the definitive edition. I’ll put it this way: When I played the original on N64, I just didn’t enjoy it, no matter how many times I revisited it. But the remake made Majora’s Mask my favorite Zelda game of all time.
@TheZebbga
4 жыл бұрын
@@fredjones2170 Well in that time I have played it again, I played the Virtual Console version and I loved it, like I went from it being my least favourite 3D Zelda games to one of my favourites. I have started to play the 3DS version and honestly I don't like some of the changes. They are mostly microchanges that dont impact much but added all together it urks me a bit. Like for example they changed where the bank is. Like that doesn't improve the game at all and I felt it was a little needless. The aiming controls are better and it looks a lot better but I dunno they have made alterations to controls and mechanics that I didn't think needed fixed. But I have only played to the Swamp on that version so maybe later changes are better.
@fredjones2170
4 жыл бұрын
TheZebbga I actually think that moving the bank right next to the Clock Town warp point makes a lot of sense: that way, when you need to make a deposit, you can just warp to Clock Town, immediately drop off your rupees and be on your way, no backtracking needed. It cuts down on a bit of the unnecessary tedium.
@TheZebbga
4 жыл бұрын
@@fredjones2170 Maybe but did it need changing? How many people have complained about that. Like yeah, technically it does save on some time but I am kinda in the mind set that something should only be changed if it was a real problem. Like fixing the Iron Boots in Ocarina of Time, good fix. Being able to play the Song of Double Time to fast forward every hour instead of every 12. The aiming controls. There are undeniably changes that are real improvments but I found the bank to be a bit unessesary. I just want the game to be as close to the original as possible with only the real issues to be fixed. They changed to much in my opinion and wth that they always will fall into the risk of changing something people liked. The big take away I have is this. Pretty much everyone seems to be in agreement that Ocarina of Time 3D is the definetive version of the game and the only reason people go back to the original is because it is on a console. I don't hear the same for Majora's Mask 3D. Sure, many do think it is the better version but I don't know if you can call something the definetive version if it is so split. There are many people who enjoy the original more for me to agree it is the definetive version. If both versions have different merits then it is really more subjective than objective.
@fredjones2170
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheZebbga You know what, that's totally fair! In hindsight, I think it was an exaggeration to call MM3D the "definitive" version; I personally consider it to be the better version overall, but you're right: Whether the improvements outweigh the downgrades is a much more subjective debate than it was for OoT 3D, where the only complaint I've heard is that they made the blood dried and black in the Shadow Temple. Still, considering all the changes that MM3D made for the better, I certainly wouldn't say it's a "bad" remake as some people've claimed - it's largely just a matter of personal preference. Whichever version you play, though, at the end of the day it's still an incredible game!
@BrennaOkazaki
5 жыл бұрын
BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP
@thundergaming155
Жыл бұрын
Deku link spin was nerfed also.
@wesnohathas1993
3 жыл бұрын
Most people are focusing on the mechanical changes in the remake, but it also messes with the tone of the game in a some areas. 3DS version removed a lot of things that added to the darker atmosphere of the original, and added stuff that felt completely out of place.
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
Aside from the actual visuals, not really. All of the story and character writing from the original is still intact
@zediahtimmons9704
5 жыл бұрын
Why do you have to talk with low health bad choice not focused on you discussion
@babypinksnail
5 жыл бұрын
Yknow ive never played any version of Majora but why do a lot of people say the Zora stuff ruins the entire game?
@thefreelancequeen
5 жыл бұрын
An entire dungeon is based on Zora swimming so it makes that dungeon significantly harder
@fredjones2170
4 жыл бұрын
BabyPinkSnail It doesn’t; I think most people just blow it out of proportion because they were used to how the original was. It’s a downgrade, but a small one in a sea of major upgrades.
@Mqstodon
3 жыл бұрын
@@thefreelancequeen Except you can get free magic for the whole cycle if it bothers you that much
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
@@fredjones2170 There are only a handful of upgrades at best.
@kylecampbell565
5 жыл бұрын
they also nerfed the inverted song of time it now only doubles the time rather than triple
@thefreelancequeen
5 жыл бұрын
Kyle Campbell you mean 0.5 from 0.33
@kylecampbell565
5 жыл бұрын
@@thefreelancequeen yeah
@Mqstodon
3 жыл бұрын
I mean three hours in the original was a bit excessive, i mean i completed the first dungeon only in the first day
@funkythor6457
5 жыл бұрын
That game met a terrible fate Sorry if you loved it
@djoshawott2850
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I call BS on not knowing the sidequests. Guess how many you have no idea exist in the original game? THOSE GET A FUCKING PASS!?
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
Like a small handful if you actually talk to people.
@Nyug3r
4 жыл бұрын
Chuggaconroy nitpicks about dumb stuff. Granted the zora mask nerf was a real problem.
@cybernight9720
5 жыл бұрын
I don't like the updated Garo Mask.
@AkameGaKillfan777
Жыл бұрын
I mean they literally call you Master, so it makes sense
@DLOFT002
Жыл бұрын
I hate the stupid eye the put on every boss. What is with this obsession that the zelda team seems to have!?
@robynwolph3836
5 жыл бұрын
3:20 That's what you get for talking shit about the best version of Majora's Mask.
@renyuuzu
4 жыл бұрын
Just saying, don't listen to Chugga on that one, MM3D is the definitive version, the things he pointed out are pure nitpicking that won't destroy your experience with the game, and the quality of life changes more then makes up those things.
@_maestro7168
4 жыл бұрын
completely disagree personally i don’t think it’s worse than the n64 version, but it’s definitely not the definitive version. i mean the bosses are just flatout worse, zora swimming was nerfed to hell and makes anything related to that mask an absolute pain. greatbay wasn’t even changed to make up for the mask changes. the quality of life changes are great, but those two things alone make up a *significant* amount of gameplay, and definitely aren’t nitpicks. I think they’re major enough drawbacks to hold it back.
@renyuuzu
4 жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion but i don't agree that 2 bosses and one mechanic beeing slightly worst, makes up for the slow pace the original had (not considering the fact that you can have infinite magic in this game, making up for the fact that Zora swin uses magic now)
@_maestro7168
4 жыл бұрын
@@renyuuzu new players won’t always know about said infinite magic by the time they reach the bay either. that one mechanic is also one of the three main masks the main game is built around, so it’s a pretty major mechanic to get right. also i’d go as far as to say *all* the bosses were changed for the worst. odolwa went from a cool boss you could defeat in multiple ways, to one with a single VERY slow-paced vulnerability. the same is true for the stupid eye on the goat. gyorg wasn’t great in the original, but the new version is also really slow paced and tedious. twinmold is the worst offender of it, the second phase making it an incredibly sluggish fight. for being the final fights that completely cap off the major areas, and as some of the most memorable moments of the game, theyre not very enjoyable to fight at all. the 3ds may be better paced in terms of 100% completion, especially with being able to skip to specific times, but as far as just playing the game I got a much better experience with the original personally
@Mqstodon
3 жыл бұрын
@@_maestro7168 the bosses are better, now instead of mindlessly attacking them you need to attack a precise spot
@Mqstodon
3 жыл бұрын
@@_maestro7168 odolwa a cool boss? My dude, actually replay the game. You just had to slash him until he dies, that's shit design and boring as hell, and gyorg is literally the same but with a new phase
@Auvisome
5 жыл бұрын
Bad opinion
@nascour5991
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Majora's mask is one the worst remakes Nintendo has made in a while. The zora swimming is one of the most bullshit dumb changes, along with ruining odalwa by forcing you to fight him in one way and nothing else. If anyone wants to know why the remake of Majora's mask is so bad I highly recommend nerrel's video as it's a very through video on why the remake is so much worse.
@stellarthefeller
5 жыл бұрын
I don't have a problem with 3DS ports. I find it sad that towards the end of the 3DS's life, a lot of the games are starting to get shelved for no reason what soever. A lot of people are missing out on some *really* nice hidden gems.
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