Take the cap off the power steering fluid reservoir once its in the air. What this also does when you steer lock to lock is it will push air out the system, which usually causes the juddering in the first place when trapped air finds its way in the wrong spot. Be sure to have some ATF fluid to top the reservoir off as well 👍🏻 Hope this comment helps anybody reading
@markbrocklehurst7320
4 жыл бұрын
Had some work done on the van a few days ago: faulty ABS sensor replaced, and a couple other things for the MOT, and tracking sorted (yet again!). Started to drive off and serious vibrations. The guy at the garage said something about "the power steering gets weak at low speeds on Citroens" and that was it, he said it was safe to drive. Your method here has fixed it perfectly, thank you!
@redram52
4 жыл бұрын
No problem. It's a common issue but not a well know fix. Thanks
@THEPINKFLOYDIANS
2 жыл бұрын
OMG I payed £400 for my MOT last Wednesday, mostly suspension parts. Took it back today due to a noise from the nearside front, after a full diagnostics, turns out I needed to replace all pads and discs another £400,,,,,,, but! My mechanic asked if I noticed the noise from the steering? I said no, he said possibly PAS pump will need replaced eventually, it's a common fault he said. Looking forward to trying this tomorrow.
@jontownsend6451
6 жыл бұрын
I serviced a Citroën Berlingo 1.9hdi today, after letting it down off the ramps i noticed the steering wheel judder, checked all components, all seemed as they should be. So drove it out and parked it up. The customer came back to pick up his vehicle, i told him this should correct itself, but only coming across this issue once before, i was unsure what was causing it. After watching this video, i have something to go on. The customer will come back this week, as i got my colleague to book the vehicle back in for a further check. I will perform this action, and we should be good to go. Thanks for uploading. As a service technician, i learn something new every day.
@redram52
6 жыл бұрын
+jon townsend we’ve used this a few times now and it’s always worked. We’re always learning! Thanks
@d.a.thorburnmotorengineers9686
2 жыл бұрын
Just serviced a Berlingo van for a customer and he brought it back 2 days later complaining of this exact vibration fault - we couldn't understand what it was until we spoke to the local Citroen garage who said it is so common to happen after a car has been jacked up and the steering wheel turned with the engine not running (like when we did the brakes). We'd never experienced it before and your video instructions were perfect, the van's away back to a happy customer, Thanks for posting it.
@redram52
2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome thanks
@johngray6378
2 жыл бұрын
After my MOT on Peugeot Partner I also had this steering wheel vibration, the garage didn’t seem to know what was causing it. I found this post gave it a go on some gravel and great relief when I test drive to find it was fixed! Thanks so much👍
@redram52
2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome thanks
@Zzz-z-z
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to post this. Just bought one from a mate who’d been paying a main dealer to fix this. Your method cured it in under a minute, used a patch of ice instead of jacking. Thanks again. 👍🏻
@redram52
2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome thanks
@johnwhite9760
4 ай бұрын
This works. If you don't have a suitable jack drive your van slowly in 1st gear turning lock to lock. Obviously requires room, I have a large yard but a quiet supermarket car park would do. I removed the cap from the fluid resevoir when doing in to depressurise. Worked a treat and no judder. Thanks for the video, you saved me time and money.
@MrDon987654
2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Took indicator cluster out and after putting it back in the steering started juddering - more like assisted juddering. Thought I had damaged the Steering Angle Sensor (SAS). Your video helped fix it ! Many thanks.
@redram52
2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome thanks
@alexmorgan3435
3 жыл бұрын
My 2015 Peugeot Partner Tepee has just started doing this. I have replaced the suspension top mounts and ARB drop links, turning the steering in the process with the engine off. All put back together fine. Taken it for a couple of short test drives and steering rack seems to vibrate and slight resistance when turning at slow speed. Well I have now jacked it up and smoothly turned the steering wheel lock to lock, left to right and back right to left, fifteens times. I gently varied the revs from idle up to about 2k and back as I did it. Let it settle. Not quite vibe free, so did another ten, then let it settle at idle. Went for a test drive an hour later. All fine. Thank you very much. You are a life saver. Hopefully now it won't fail the MOT on steering!
@redram52
3 жыл бұрын
It'll be fine now until they MOT it and it does it after the test. Not their fault just do the lock to lock 10+ times & it'll be fine again. It's not a fault, it's a feature!😀
@alexmorgan3435
3 жыл бұрын
@@redram52 It passed the MOT and steering didn't vibrate after so perhaps they did the lock to lock re-calibration or they didn't need to as they didn't do anything to disturb the steering rack? Don't know. I'm just pleased that it passed with no advisories. Many thanks again. Happy days.
@willdatsun
Жыл бұрын
@@alexmorgan3435 maybe they had the engine running when they were moving the wheels
@Paul-ue8tn
Жыл бұрын
Worked for me thanks. I tried driving around a car park in 1st gear doing lock to lock which did improve things. After jacking up and 20 turns lock to lock with the cap loose to let any air out it went away. Such a weird issue so many thanks.
@redram52
Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome thanks
@benjay9900
Жыл бұрын
Just solved a problem I had after a customer brought his partner back in after an MOT 👌 Thanks
@redram52
Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome thanks. I tend to do this with all of them now after a test/service etc. it does it on so many and it’s an easy fix. 👍
@oldkiteman
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid.just put pads on a 2017 berlingo,road tested it and it was vibrating like a bastard.followed your instructions and its perfect.You are a life saver!
@davesport62
4 жыл бұрын
Massive thanks for taking the time to post this. There's not a lot of information that highlights this as a common problem. Mine started vibrating after i'd changed the discs & pads. I'd had the steering turned both ways with the engine off to access the brake carrier fixings and the vibration was obvious during the test drive. Not having experienced this before I had a 2nd check of all my work & retorqued the wheel bolts. Your fix worked for me. Thx.
@redram52
4 жыл бұрын
Happened to me the same way on one I MOT’d.
@reldnew16
3 ай бұрын
Thanks! You saved me a lot of time and probably money. Problem solved
@neilgaffney9232
3 жыл бұрын
I had a flat battery the other day and had to steer my 63 plate Peugeot partner with engine off to bump start it, its been vibrating on steering since, i will try this later and update on the results, cheers mate
@redram52
3 жыл бұрын
Similar effect. Moving the steering while the engine is off is what seems to trigger it.
@neilgaffney9232
3 жыл бұрын
@@redram52 Yes mate it worked a treat, thanks so much for posting this as i thought the power steering pump was knackered. Great video.
@redram52
3 жыл бұрын
@@neilgaffney9232 great. Thanks for the update.
@PL00Longa
3 жыл бұрын
So apparently it's not exclusive of these models. I've noticed my 2010 308SW having the same issue for a brief 2 seconds while parking. 2 events. Both parking. Many thanks for the video! Cheers
@redram52
3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@anthonycannon7118
2 жыл бұрын
Problem solved easily with your method thanks!
@redram52
2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome thanks
@babycham9521
2 жыл бұрын
Your an absolute gem and solved my issue thank you thank you .
@redram52
2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome thanks
@jasonwhelan5596
3 жыл бұрын
Fixed my peugeot partner, thanks. 👍🏼👍🏼
@redram52
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@tk2097
6 жыл бұрын
Don't need to lift it off ground.. it worked for me on rd 👍👍
@razje
5 жыл бұрын
It does work when the wheels are on the road, but that'll be pretty bad for your tires.
@andrewarmstrong1017
2 жыл бұрын
May give it a go...😉
@davebarnett7772
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, this method worked for me, cheers 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@redram52
3 жыл бұрын
Your welcome. Thanks
@CraftyPip
2 күн бұрын
You might like to point out that it will not be as smooth as you have made it appear (obviously done for instruction purposes). The shuddering is profound on the first couple of turns, and can be quite disconcerting. It's akin to oiling a rusty hinge, it slowly eases, and as you say after 10-15 complete lock rotations left and right, it dissipates completely.
@maiclow7138
4 жыл бұрын
Dobra robota. Good job
@133taxi
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that will give it a try as it’s been doing my head in as every time my car goes on a ramp and wheels off this happens
@redram52
3 жыл бұрын
No problem, I kept having the same issue hence the video
@Durgesuth
3 жыл бұрын
Had this vibration on turning left since the drive shaft gaitor was replaced....Will give this a try
@shayconlan6799
3 жыл бұрын
Super fix.
@sssddd52
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your tip. I'll try soon.
@leroyhellyeah2285
2 жыл бұрын
Saviour, thank you 👍
@redram52
2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome thanks
@Elwooddudes
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! I’ll be doing this today
@redram52
3 жыл бұрын
No problem thanks
@Robertas_Grigas
4 жыл бұрын
this is really common on Citroën berlingo 2015-2018. Literally every second one has this issue.
@nightwolf1592
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will give it a try.
@SzymonZdunczyk
2 ай бұрын
To działa!
@DAZZLER109
4 жыл бұрын
It worked thanks mate 👍🏻
@carys1000
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks work for me
@redram52
2 жыл бұрын
No problem thanks
@willdatsun
Жыл бұрын
Some of these had mechanical power steering pump, some had electric pump (down in the rh front wheel arch) do both versions suffer the same fault, or just the ones with electric pumps? I've noticed it on two both with electric pumps. Seems more pronounced when cold. Will try the lock to lock thing. I presume this is to expel air, rather than it being some kind of electronic reset?
@paulhoskisson4636
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you soooo much!!!
@redram52
4 жыл бұрын
No problem 😊
@MotorFixDean
6 жыл бұрын
Top man. Thanks
@thestr8jacket1
4 жыл бұрын
Just got my Berlingo van back from MOT pass and felt heavy vibration in steering as soon as i drove it away from garage, i blamed the garage as i knew it was fine before i took it in. Checked out this video and found it corrected itself just from driving all day but i still don't know how or why it occurred??
@redram52
4 жыл бұрын
Don’t be too hard on the garage. It’s probably because the MOT test has the front jacked up and the tester moves the wheels side to side with the engine off. I’m a tester and it happens to me regularly so I do the fix before we give it back to the customer and it’s the whole reason for doing the video. It’s a feature not a fault! Thanks
@mohammed-ex2kz
3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@redram52
3 жыл бұрын
No problem thanks
@alanryland5757
4 жыл бұрын
Hi. just bought a 2012 Van. it had a front coil spring changed and judders like mad now. my garage has tried this fix, and so far it is still the same. today we have refilled the PAS fluid as it was low. The spring was changed by the selling garage, as it failed on MOT. so far we have done this 3/4 times, but still juddering, which definitely wasn't there when I test drove the vehicle off forecourt. any idea's?
@redram52
4 жыл бұрын
Not sure but try doing the fix with the wheels on the ground, it’ll put a little more pressure on the system but nothing it’s not designed for.do the lock to lock more, say 20 times. Other than that there’s only the steering top mounts that would cause a noise similar to this if one or both were worn or seized. When you turn to lock the spring should go round with the leg. If the top of the spring stays put the mount is at fault. Hope this helps.
@alanryland5757
4 жыл бұрын
@@redram52 Thank you for reply. It does improve as you use the van during the day. I will do the lock to lock on ground tomorrow, and if it does not improve we will check the top mounts. I will let you know how I get on.
@alanryland5757
4 жыл бұрын
@@redram52 So I've done this several times now, and its just a shudder now on turning left, guess that's the best its going to get!
@imhoman8423
3 жыл бұрын
Mine had a dead battery so from work out of the car park its downhill. So I roll started the car as in into second gear and off the clutch. A few miles down the road I started to notice this vibeation check the fluid it was ok. Now after work I went to pick up new battery and on my way back about 10 miles it was gone.
@kevinargust3694
5 жыл бұрын
i'snt that just bleeding the steering pump?
@redram52
4 жыл бұрын
But if it works.......
@specialbeat
Жыл бұрын
Is there any way to do this fix without jacking it up?
@redram52
Жыл бұрын
Just do the turns. I’ve updated the description. Thanks.
@specialbeat
Жыл бұрын
@@redram52 Brilliant, thank you
@dyslexiksteve2488
4 жыл бұрын
Will this work on a c4 grand picasso?
@redram52
4 жыл бұрын
Worth a try, same family. Just try it with the wheels on the ground.
@andrewarmstrong1017
2 жыл бұрын
Whats the best way to jack the two front wheels off the ground?...the jacking points are under both side doors...?....
@redram52
2 жыл бұрын
The fix will work without jacking up. However the front jacking points are just behind where the front wing meets the sill. The rear are at the end of the sill. It’s got a funny shape on the sill where you Jack it up
@andrewarmstrong1017
2 жыл бұрын
@@redram52 Many thanks...will give it a go..😉
@johnheadbricks689
Жыл бұрын
Does that work on a Xantia too? Had the power steering hose repaired, and it shakes like crazy ever since. I did the same proecedure with the engine off, (for half an hour...) didn't work.
@redram52
Жыл бұрын
Doing it with the engine off is what causes the fault. Try it with the engine running. The power steering pump only runs when the engine does so that’s the only way it will self bleed.
@mr_nice.
Жыл бұрын
@@redram52 .....small correction: before doing the procedure with the engine off, we did it with the engine running and the car lowered with broken pressure. The vibration was present from the first moment. It continued after tightening the accumulator screw and building up pressure. When we raised the car to the max to check the LHM level, we didn't try turning it, but It was still there after lowering the car to the normal position again. THEN we tried the "engine off & end to end" technique for about 15 minutes, still nothing. Tomorrow I'll try it with the car in the max position and "end to end", maybe with the wheels off the ground. Any ideas? Thanks
@marianstefan3355
6 ай бұрын
I just fix main c5 from 2007 with engine on on the normal position and work like it should 👍🙏
@troycafer1381
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a judder I have a very slight constant whining 2016 berlingo, if I come to stand still it stops but soon as I touch steering wheel it starts again Any suggestions? Thanks in advance
@redram52
4 жыл бұрын
Possibly a fan belt that's a bit worn/dry. Give it a quick squirt with WD40 or similar and if it stops briefly change the belt.
@stevegraham3041
2 жыл бұрын
My van has just had a service and now doing this so might have to try this before jumping the gun and taking it back. Ok to do it with out jacking up the front?
@stevegraham3041
2 жыл бұрын
Well there you have it it’s gone and worked did it on gravel
@redram52
2 жыл бұрын
@@stevegraham3041 yes no problem it just needs to be free. Thanks
@stevegraham3041
2 жыл бұрын
@@redram52 did it on gravel it worked cheers
@all-starcleaningservices2320
6 жыл бұрын
How do you take a citreon dispatch van front bumper off please . And if you know if I need a new power steering pump has the power steering has stopped working . Any help would be very grateful
@redram52
6 жыл бұрын
Sorry never removed one. Check fluid level, drive belt tension and hoses etc for leaks. It could be either the pump or steering rack if all of these are ok.
@tyler23mma
3 жыл бұрын
what causes this problem?
@ahad1975smash
6 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance you know the horn tunes where about lingo Peugeot Partner tepee Torbo sorry about the silly mistake
@redram52
6 жыл бұрын
No sorry. Have a look in the manual, that should tell you which fuse it is. You can probably find a manual in pdf form on the web.
@nasty9317
11 ай бұрын
Had this on mine after they turned the wheels without the engine on during an mot ,
@redram52
11 ай бұрын
Happens a lot. Luckily an easy fix
@Bertrum123
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like air in the steering hydrolics
@133taxi
3 жыл бұрын
Also can you please tell me why this happens ?????
@redram52
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a feature! 🤣
@133taxi
3 жыл бұрын
@@redram52 well it worked for me thanks for the tip 👍🏻
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