As someone who has family who have just fled a civil war, this movie (that I saw ln) very much echoed their experiences - war always devolves into carnage and horror. This movie very much serves as a warning. Whatever the motivations for conflict, conflict always leads to the same place.
@cristhianzerimar
4 ай бұрын
And that's the point Grace doesn't get.
@LachlanMorris
5 ай бұрын
The exact reason Alex Garland paired Texas and California was purely not to pick sides. Imagine if he’d made the movie pro-Democrat and made Texas the bad guys. It would not only be biased but would cause further division in the real United States.
@dylanmcmahon3162
5 ай бұрын
yep everything she is implying could happen movie is more likely if he did pick a side he was just trying to show hey guys if you don't come together a little this might happen
@ErikRose74
5 ай бұрын
Exactly right
@bravo561
5 ай бұрын
I haven’t seen the movie but he vilify there democrats like sue said?
@Ndf2695Gaming
5 ай бұрын
THIS! Garland instead focuses on Journalism as it has become a major problem in the US that both sides recognize. Grace seems very triggered by this take.
@730jangofett
5 ай бұрын
I mean at least Texas and California have the shared history of being independent nations at one point in the past
@jgdgbhf
4 ай бұрын
There’s a line in the movie that Kirstin says about how every photo she took was a warning she sent home; “don’t do this.” The movie is intentionally light on details because it’s a warning. The details don’t matter. Don’t do this.
@anakoz
4 ай бұрын
This! I don't know how she didn't get this, to me this movie was very shallow but this is literally the only thing that it said ha.
@user-eg2mf5xy9v
4 ай бұрын
“War is bad” being the only thesis is so insulting to its adult audience. A movie with this big of budget that takes itself this seriously should offer a little more than that.
@jgdgbhf
4 ай бұрын
@@user-eg2mf5xy9v disagree. it's the context as well as the execution that makes it effective. seeing historical or fictional war, as told by a soldier or specific warring faction allows you to 1 - think it doesn't apply to you and 2 - feel like you're on the side of the good guys. this movie doesn't allow for either of those perspectives.
@benjihudson2768
4 ай бұрын
Don’t do what though?
@jimdigitalvideo
4 ай бұрын
@jgdgbhf You got it. It doesn't say who are the good guys and who are the bad guys. It's saying, 'Don't let this happen in our country'.
@Starflddrms74
5 ай бұрын
It’s about the mechanics of a modern civil war. It’s about what would happen, not why it happened.
@eliselianaboyd2547
5 ай бұрын
Without a why there is no what
@ytubeanon
5 ай бұрын
it sounded like she precisely criticized the mechanics when talking about the non-representation of special forces units / elite teams, journalist war heroes... the movie Grace seemed to want, with more realism, some kind of cultural relevance, more accurate depiction of America, etc... sounds more interesting than Garland's movie lol
@rezza_lynsaii
5 ай бұрын
@@ytubeanon Not really lol
@coolbrando1
4 ай бұрын
I mean she made some valid points. I saw it last night and wasn't impressed. I feel like Alex Garland should do more sci-fi because that's when he really cooks. Man is 0-2.
@emptyblank099a
4 ай бұрын
You need a why since none of it makes any sense.
@CJM2702
5 ай бұрын
Americans acting like they don’t make movies about other countries with little or no research but hey it’s only an issue when it comes to America
@rainbowremo1
5 ай бұрын
Give examples as egregious as this
@BluePrada
5 ай бұрын
@@rainbowremo1he’s gonna provide the alternative facts
@johnbarrett915
5 ай бұрын
@@rainbowremo1 U571
@tecumseh4095
5 ай бұрын
@@rainbowremo1Oliver Stone’s Alexander
@KiaStout
5 ай бұрын
@@rainbowremo1it's not even egregious months ago they announced that they didn't want this to parallel real life and wanted only to show the horrors of civil war. In some of the promotion they even said don't expect the map or politics to to be accurate they were made nonsensical on purpose to stop it from taking a side or feeling preachy.
@ozwarz
5 ай бұрын
Hollywood does it all the time when they decide to tell stories from other countries, so….
@nunosaosorio
5 ай бұрын
Maybe that's the entire point of this movie.
@ms.carriage6867
5 ай бұрын
the amount of times they've butchered even fictional things like Robin Hood let alone anything factual
@zangetsu284
5 ай бұрын
This is the only correct take lmao
@heretics25
5 ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@jorgeac9236
5 ай бұрын
This way Grace is losing so fast subscribers, her arguments sometimes are so shallow.
@KaptenSeptum
5 ай бұрын
Guess I as a Swed should be this upset about the Midsommar movie that was directed and written by an Ameican. The guy depicted one of our most precious holidays in Sweden as an Horror fiction 😅 (This is a joke obviously)
@ShaneyBright
4 ай бұрын
After seeing Civil War, I believe A24 is art house cinema. I don't vibe with their choice of films they distribute. They're not mainstream, as they would like to believe. To each their own, just not my cup of tea.
@martinvid101
4 ай бұрын
@@ShaneyBrightit really took you this long to figure that out
@bearcatXF
4 ай бұрын
Who wrote and directed "Midsommar"? And what is a "mohel"?
@sfdko3291
4 ай бұрын
@@ShaneyBright ....yes....they ARE ARTHOUSE cinema.... I mean....I thought people knew this...
@willbaskin700
4 ай бұрын
Agreed lol, i dont care who made the movie it’s about the quality of the art
@ccmwhite16
5 ай бұрын
You know this is fiction? Not a documentary…
@Phasael
4 ай бұрын
but even fiction should makes sense
@sonicsnake44
4 ай бұрын
For people like Grace fiction is their reality.
@danny87573
4 ай бұрын
Then make it entertaining or with better world building. No excuse for it to be this boring
@texascard
4 ай бұрын
@@Phasaelfiction should make sense? So it makes sense for a human to turn green and grow huge muscles right?
@BReal23-qm8hs
4 ай бұрын
@@texascard Logical storytelling and character development are necessary for engaging film especially if you are depicting something that could really happen. Otherwise, the filmmakers are wasting people's time and ripping them off.
@whomilloo
5 ай бұрын
11:10 TBH this is probably how other countries feel when Americans make movies about them soooo
@zkeletonz001
5 ай бұрын
With the state of modern journalism most corporate journalists wouldn't recognize themselves on screen.
@billsprestonesq.226
4 ай бұрын
At the White House Correspondents' Dinner in 2006, Stephen Colbert joked about all the free time journalists should have by working as stenographers for the WH: "Get to know your family again. Make love to your wife. Write that novel you got kicking around in your head. You know, the one about the intrepid Washington reporter with the courage to stand up to the administration? You know, fiction!" Colbert was such a great satirist. He fell hard.
@iTz_Qantitiez
4 ай бұрын
@ grace sadly
@joecamps1119
5 ай бұрын
In case it doesn’t get mentioned here Texas and California were Garlands choice exactly because ideologically they don’t add up. He mentioned before not wanting to give clear answers for what its worth. I think he intends to confound and confuse. To disarm us if that makes sense. BUT both states have a history of people clamoring to succeed and both wield huge economic and political power and even one of those states succeding would cripple the rest of the nation. If they joined forces they could do incredible damage to the rest of the country.
@BeyondTheTrailer
5 ай бұрын
That's fine, but it's not at all discussed in the film itself.
@SinSationNation
5 ай бұрын
That is true with Texas and California talking about seceding from the union, but Texas was more vocal about it than California
@Junksaint
5 ай бұрын
California is certainly rich, the middle states always run at a deficit and need the coasts money
@JakeMercierFilms
5 ай бұрын
Sounds more like a cop-out for being poorly thought out than an intentional effort on Garland’s part.
@joecamps1119
5 ай бұрын
@@JakeMercierFilmsbased on what Grace shared I could see Garland not even attempting to understand our politics but instead focusing on the most extreme and insane scenario he could come up with. Whats the most perverse version of another American civil war? Shoot what if the two sides supposedly most ideologically apart joined forces against the rest of us? Absolute horror movie stuff imo. I think it’s intentional because it’s so flagrant on its face. They would never? Right? But if they did they could do some incredible harm to the rest of us economically alone.
@waltlock8805
5 ай бұрын
Japan has always understood American nationalism better than almost anyone. See Senator Armstrong in Metal Gear: Revengence. Kojima wrote that character years before Trump entered the political theater.
@marwynthemasterful6369
5 ай бұрын
Kojima God
@randomguy2402
5 ай бұрын
Never thought id see someone talking abt Metal gear in this channel lol
@abviixi9136
5 ай бұрын
YO, by far top-tier KAMI level comment. This will go so fucking far over the masses head it isn't even funny. I would argue Cambell from Son's of Patriots (Or his Digitized Algorithm AI Cambell) was hitting on some serious shit in early-mid 00's
@renaissancenovice7202
4 ай бұрын
I was thinking the other day that Japan and China probably have a better take than most Americans on the Civil War given their Waring States periods.
@konstantinosgeorghiou564
4 ай бұрын
I get what Grace is saying but I think what the film tries to focus on is the dehumanization of people during war, the picture during the credits fully captured this. I think it did that pretty well tbh
@Revealingstorm.
4 ай бұрын
Crazy how many people on KZitem couldn't get that. It doesn't pander to my political party so it has to be a bad movie. Christ...
@kdkseven
4 ай бұрын
Grace missed the point of the movie.
@edykennedy1512
5 ай бұрын
I was there last night and I thought that this movie was portraying an alternate version of America, and the horrors of what a civil war in modern America would look like. While it is obviously inspired by current events, it is not a 1:1.
@BReal23-qm8hs
4 ай бұрын
If that were the case then film failed even to do that and made it all look like summer vacation.
@3dberserk1
5 ай бұрын
Grace, you are my favorite movie reviewer but i disagree with you 95% of the time. So... Im still looking foward for this movie.
@TueSorensen
4 ай бұрын
LOL! 😆
@seanwalker6052
4 ай бұрын
lol I have the exact same relationship with her
@guadalupec7658
5 ай бұрын
He doesn't take a side, and that seems to bother people. It's just a cautionary tale, Geez 🙄
@BReal23-qm8hs
4 ай бұрын
It is the lack of standards and people's apathy towards corruption and decay that leads to a mess like this.
@davidloureiro7294
3 ай бұрын
People are so entrenched in their sides that they can not handle interacting with someone who is not clearly on one side or the other. That is why Grace struggles to understand this movie.
@BReal23-qm8hs
3 ай бұрын
@@davidloureiro7294 Even without the bias towards either side it is a very bland movie that is doesn't have much to say other than "don't do this".
@HamishSteele
5 ай бұрын
I do think its funny seeing Americans react to this movie, when American cinema has represented everywhere else in the world even worse for a century.
@_heresjohnny
5 ай бұрын
1000% - I feel like all this is intentional in its portrayal. Most of the world has a disdain for Americans and it’s almost like garland put those views into a film. I can’t wait to see this!
@Rockstar-bq5fm
5 ай бұрын
I can’t help but smile at all honestly. It’s like it’s the first time they’ve seen a negative portrayal of how people perceive them and are in a deep shock. It’s like they don’t like being generalised like they generalise everyone else
@antonybeney
5 ай бұрын
It’s typical of Americans 😂 it actually proves a lot of points everyone else says and thinks of America
@OzyEdoTorrealba
5 ай бұрын
It's not just about a "bas view" of America or Americans. But a flawed bad description. You can show a view of all the thing perceived as bad from The USA but you gotta do it right. Otherwise it'll read as lazy(one of the things America is criticized for)
@mmorgan1980
5 ай бұрын
@@Rockstar-bq5fm I don't know how you could possibly think that Americans, in modern times, with access to the INTERNET are in shock that people despise us. Of course we know that.
@sm11199305
5 ай бұрын
It’s weird to say, how do you, a non-American make a movie about a fictitious setting in the US. Haven’t American directors done exactly that with other countries! Very weird take …
@InMyGetawayCar
5 ай бұрын
She's not saying he can't make the movie, she is saying that since he isn't American, he has to do the research and back up what he is saying in the movie, which Grace feels he did not.
@alexf7886
5 ай бұрын
literally
@amandadosanjos3994
5 ай бұрын
Speak it!
@sonicsnake44
5 ай бұрын
She's mad because her side was not shown to be the good guys.
@andreacarreiro5436
5 ай бұрын
@@InMyGetawayCar But that's exactly what 99.99% of American directors do when they tell stories about other countries: they don't research.
@erikporter
5 ай бұрын
To be fair, there ARE a lot of conservatives in California and there are a lot of liberals in Texas. Seeing the movie Thursday so will make my own judgement of it.
@eliselianaboyd2547
5 ай бұрын
And that's the major reason why America would not fight another civil war
@LiberPater777
4 ай бұрын
@@eliselianaboyd2547*should not _want_ to fight another civil war But people are "intelligence challenged", history rhymes, and never say never.
@byronhotchkiss3254
4 ай бұрын
@@eliselianaboyd2547 as if there weren't Southern sympathizers in the North and vice versa.
@ThePoliticalBulldog
4 ай бұрын
it seems like the western alliance isn't a political entity but rather the national guard forces of both states.
@sonicsnake44
4 ай бұрын
So what did you think of it.
@Elliphobia
5 ай бұрын
No knock to you or anything Grace because I love your videos and what you do but I caught civil war last night and unless I missed something there is no implication that this president has any similarities to Donald Trump at all. I'm saying that as a non Trump supporter. The politics of the president aren't even shown in the film. They don't even say what political party he's affiliated with.
@BeyondTheTrailer
5 ай бұрын
There's the line about him dismantling the FBI, and other things that mirror Trump's actions as president.
@marwynthemasterful6369
5 ай бұрын
@@BeyondTheTrailerTrump dismantled the FBI? I didn’t know they weren’t operating anymore.
@Blackarachnia1996
5 ай бұрын
@@BeyondTheTrailerAnd that he was on his third term
@peterpain6625
5 ай бұрын
@@BeyondTheTrailer I recon every autocrat would probably do that once into power. The FBI is scarily effective behind the curtain of what the public thinks about it. Still one if not the leading investigating force in the modern world. I'm pretty convinced they want it this way. Being out of the public eye i mean.
@BluePrada
5 ай бұрын
You guys need to learn to read between the lines. I can say the sky is red, that doesn’t make it true.
@celestineford542
5 ай бұрын
Journalism is failing badly. It’s becoming an echo chamber.
@celestineford542
4 ай бұрын
@@mikejunior211 driven by agendas not facts
@abletothink
4 ай бұрын
It's funny because Grace seems to want this movie to echo her beliefs.
@mmedrano21
4 ай бұрын
@@abletothink Bingo
@montanagarcia8887
4 ай бұрын
I think Grace, is just running her mouth,..! She's just bashing everything.. I get it the movie, not going to be liked by many.. But she's just being a political idiot..!! Just saying:
@florescent93
4 ай бұрын
Always has been.
@NotAnArsonist94
4 ай бұрын
Grace, Alex made a creative choice to pair Texas and California (two opposing sides politically IRL) in order to not show bias. This movie is meant to be fiction and not taken literally. I believe Garland did an excellent job centering the film around photographers who simply wanted to record history and not create an opinion. This film is not based on this universe’s USA, but shows how gruesome and violent a modern day civil war would look like. Something that is crucial to avoid.
@BReal23-qm8hs
3 ай бұрын
"This film is fiction and should not be taken seriously" and in another sentence you say that "shows how gruesome and violent a modern day civil war would look like." What a contradiction!
@damonx6109
5 ай бұрын
I think its pretty much common knowledge that Garland didn't want the film to reflect the current political climate of the US... That seems to be lost on Grace however, who most likely was disappointed that there were no super heroes in it...
@sandal_thong8631
5 ай бұрын
There's currently (since 2015, or earlier with Putin in power) a worldwide, far-right movement to elect authoritarian men into office who are straight, of the majority ethnicity and religion, who their followers feel will settle scores, and put the women, minorities and LGBTQ in their place. Make a movie about a country like Brazil, Hungary, Turkey, Belarus, India or even the U.S. falling for that, it has something to say today! But don't make nonsense just to show people getting shot for the fun of it.
@wesleyyates2561
5 ай бұрын
How can a fictional movie be poorly researched.
@sarad2659
5 ай бұрын
Fictional doesn't mean fantasy. You have to build a world, or sow seeds on where the shift between our history and theirs takes place.
@glent7853
4 ай бұрын
@@mikejunior211 Texas is 47% democrat remember
@billsprestonesq.226
4 ай бұрын
Fiction still has to be consistent; if a work is set on Earth, it has to obey the laws of physics unless it states otherwise; if a work is set in modern US, it has to obey modern reality unless it states otherwise. The movie could be set in an alternate present where Lyndon Johnson was re-elected in 1968 and our real history isn't the movie "history", but that has to be stated. (e.g. "Watchmen")
@texascard
4 ай бұрын
@@billsprestonesq.226ummm superhero movies are based in the modern world…. Physics don’t make sense there…. 🤣 A guy turning green and growing muscles? Oh yeah that’s real
@cesarhguitungajr2857
4 ай бұрын
All this shows me is that a lot of people will benefit from watching the movie more than once. It was very powerful.
@cesarhguitungajr2857
4 ай бұрын
Slight spoilers so skip if you haven’t watched: 1 - too close to the elephant. The point isn’t why it’s happening. It’s that it IS happening. America is the vehicle, not the whole point. 2 - Wagner’s character is literally breaking down at the base and all the other male characters die. Lee has a whole arc and saves her mentee 3 - the point of Plemons scene is very clear. Who does he shoot? Which one of the three does he consistently point the gone at? Which two places does he say are Real America? 4 - Look into what’s happening to journalists in Gaza 5 - watch it again if you can and see how it impacts how you perceive the movie
@Naruke0Nick
4 ай бұрын
I will NEVER watch this movie again lmfaoooo Shit was boring as hell and mainly because the characters themselves were weak as fuck
@sensereference2227
5 ай бұрын
It seems like this movie takes place in a completely fictionalized U.S. with a different history to ours and is also more about the horrors of war rather than politics. Of course, this raises the question of why Garland didn't just choose to set the story in a fictional country to avoid confusion on the part of the audience if that was his goal.
@josephmanning3179
5 ай бұрын
I see why he would want to do that, but that's just lazy screenwriting tbh. Like if I want to watch about the horrors of war, I could just watch the Hunger Games or something. I get that it could be dense, maybe a miniseries would have been better.
@TechWeLove
5 ай бұрын
Probably cause he wanted mass appeal. Some unknown place wouldn't be as popular in name recognition, and it can play on the funnier side of what might be if people gave up modern society because they couldn't get it together.
@Ray03595
5 ай бұрын
Exactly. If there's nothing actually 'American' about the film then not sure why he chose America. This isn't the first piece of media to do a fictionalized version of a country. 'Years and Years' is a TV show that depicts a fictionalized UK heading towards dystopia, but there is very clear context for how they got there and everything makes sense. Seems Garland just wanted to draw attention to his film and decided to choose the USA. If you choose a country, do a fictionalized version of it, but not proper research of that country's history then you definitely open yourself up to criticism.
@sandal_thong8631
5 ай бұрын
_V for Vendetta_ is a good alternate future movie where fascists take over the U.K. Where was the U.S. in that? Fighting a war against Muslims.
@KenDAKL4ever
5 ай бұрын
Why couldn't he use his own country then? He picked the USA for a reason.
@Globalo45
5 ай бұрын
Looks like she missed the point again....
@peterpain6625
5 ай бұрын
By far. Yet i can follow her arguments from an American's perspective just fine. Just not how the rest of the world sees it.
@Alex-hx4on
5 ай бұрын
She kept saing that the biggest problem of all is how little research this movie has and she supported all her arguments with real historical events. I think you missed her point
@kevinstfort
5 ай бұрын
@@Alex-hx4on it doesn’t matter to the point of the movie and what it tried to get across.
@TechWeLove
5 ай бұрын
@@Alex-hx4onIt's fiction movie. This event didn't happen.
@jayr3053
5 ай бұрын
As per usual.
@byronhotchkiss3254
4 ай бұрын
If they answered all Grace's questions this would need to be a 10 episode miniseries.
@orlock20
4 ай бұрын
It might be made into a book or miniseries if the movie is profitable.
@poloboy5680
5 ай бұрын
I don’t see how you can critique a movie that revolves around a fictional political landscape by holding it to the standards and patterns of our current, non-fiction political landscape.
@Ndf2695Gaming
5 ай бұрын
Yeah I think it's set up to not be a commentary on the (actual) US on purpose lol Having Texas allied with California is just one example of how this isn't supposed to be a commentary on the US but rather on war journalism it seems with how she describes the movie. It may take place in a US divided, but it seems like Garland didn't want to piss off either side in the actual divided US.
@seangalvin4582
5 ай бұрын
She has said so many bonkers things over the years, but the idea that Alex Garland chose California and Texas as partners was a poorly researched mistake rather than a obvious purposeful decision is the worst. It's baffling to hear someone who has so much professional success say some completely ignorant and downright stupid things.
@touroleite9920
5 ай бұрын
These points are valid but I would say Garland and the people behind this movie are aware of the tension in the U.S. and are almost exploiting that tension. That being said I would agree that Grave fixating on the details on the movie aren’t really the point ig, still valid too though.
@sateleim
5 ай бұрын
art imitates life? she goes too far with it here but this critique isn’t valid mostly
@lacolem1
5 ай бұрын
I think her point is that there’s no in-universe explanation. She really, really doesn’t like the world building here, it seems. Even the wildest fantasy has rules
@thrash.78
5 ай бұрын
If Grace takes a movie personally and is losing her mind over it that means the film is great. Can’t wait to see it!
@MK4lyfe
5 ай бұрын
She didn't like this movie cause it wasnt a superhero movie. If this exaxt plot was in a superhero movie she would be applauding it
@sm11199305
5 ай бұрын
It’s fiction… can it be treated as such?
@Destroyer3212-gv2ss
5 ай бұрын
@@SourBogBubble u cant treat as fiction when its political and knowing how messed us the usa is a civil war might happen
@saraamw
5 ай бұрын
I thought The movie was more about war jornalists not about political movie
@sm11199305
5 ай бұрын
@@Destroyer3212-gv2ss isn’t this the same hysteria which people had when joker came out. ‘Oh there will be mass violence and riots now’… people just saw it as another movie and a work of pure fiction
@callaghanmckeon3571
5 ай бұрын
Not when its trying to act like non fiction
@Destroyer3212-gv2ss
5 ай бұрын
@@sm11199305 not really when joker was about a man struggling with his mental illness and civil war is about the leftists and the conservatives going to war And civil war isnt going to make 1billion at the box office
@emmettclarke6713
5 ай бұрын
Journalism today is in the GUTTER so why be so offended by how they are represented?
@dylanmcmahon3162
5 ай бұрын
for real journalism has turned into pushing whatever agenda instead of telling of the truth
@mmedrano21
4 ай бұрын
Apparently she believes the highly curated narrative.
@ThePoliticalBulldog
4 ай бұрын
The offense comes from how clumsily the representation is, not how "unfair".
@mattkirby994
4 ай бұрын
Homegirl is lost af
@mmedrano21
4 ай бұрын
@@user-fx5vm6hu9t I’d prefer people who aren’t too stupid to understand that real journalists present the known facts and let their consumers decide for themselves.
@YourMovieFix
5 ай бұрын
I very honestly think if people can handle like 10 Purge movies we will be okay with something like this.
@BrimLeal
5 ай бұрын
Dude your review makes me want to see it now. the movie sounds GREAT!!
@murrygondwana7260
5 ай бұрын
So easily manipulated. Sad.
@Mitzrael-yk3pu
5 ай бұрын
I know right? sounds like a great movie lol
@murrygondwana7260
5 ай бұрын
@@mikejunior211 Ticket sales show that no one is interested in this movie.
@zacgale4231
4 ай бұрын
@@murrygondwana7260 hahah that’s your justification?
@murrygondwana7260
4 ай бұрын
@@zacgale4231 hahah, yeah because I am a capitalist. You don't care if the film is a financial success? Sounds like communism.
@scotteddie4585
5 ай бұрын
Grace I usually really like your takes but I’m thinking you may have missed the point with this movie.
@pat-orl
4 ай бұрын
Completely
@jesm1440
5 ай бұрын
Americans finally realizing what other countries feel 😅
@TradeMyWish
4 ай бұрын
And they are all so salty 😅
@fatine88
5 ай бұрын
Having recently witnessed how biased and quite frankly disgusting some journalism can be I’m inclined to believe that maybe this wouldn’t be too far fetched.
@Warriordog1011
5 ай бұрын
But a film that doesn’t take a side has broad appeal. Which is what you always say you want in movies grace. I can’t talk too much on the film as I see it Thursday but you’re suppose to feel and see the horror of war. There are countless wars going on currently where people who surrender are killed even tho they surrender. I’ve seen videos online of Russians killing ukrainians and vice Versa yet they surrendered. Same with fictional tv shoes and movies we watch . It happens in war and from my understanding garland wants us to see the reality of it.
@Warriordog1011
4 ай бұрын
I want to add I have now seen the film and I stand by what I said. Also these are PHOTO journalist . Meant to show photos of the ravaged war zones. Really the movie isn’t suppose to be anything but the horrors of wars. And garland does NOT take a sad or villify any liberals or conservatives, it’s humans killing humans, you don’t get an opinion on a side because we aren’t given a stance. And we were shown these journalist wrestling with hardships with taking photos. I don’t wanna get into spoilers but come on. It’s right there
@mfal850
5 ай бұрын
i will be watching this. i think this is not intended to have historical accuracy or geographical accuracy. i'm curious to see how this plays with audiences. alex is not a mainstream director so i'm curious how this leans.
@Goku-nc8sx
5 ай бұрын
grace the history expert randolph
@jollygreen9377
5 ай бұрын
Does the movie touch on Presidents trying to jail their political opponents like in third world countries?
@Killswitch1411
4 ай бұрын
Sounds like something happening currently against not only against political opponents but it's supporters in the name of save the democracy.
@starlit_hawser11
5 ай бұрын
Grace lowkey being patriotic without maybe even knowing it 😂
@TheWhiteboy38rams
5 ай бұрын
Been watching and enjoying your channel for years , but this feels like a rant rather than a review, obviously you are entitled to your opinion as is everyone, but as in your tweets you are coming across as angry in this review and taking this film personally
@mellowyellow375
5 ай бұрын
I think if the film was set outside of the US with the same set pieces the review would have been more positive. It does bring up an interesting point in that I don't think the US gets the same coverage of the realities of war as the rest of the world OR its heavily edited in their favour and rarely challenged
@chriswhamilton
5 ай бұрын
In her rage she blocked me on Twitter for suggesting something similar. I even said I enjoyed her content, but disagreed with her movie tastes.
@MK4lyfe
5 ай бұрын
She didn't like this movie cause it wasnt a superhero movie. If this exaxt plot was in a superhero movie she would be applauding it
@stephenmiller2544
4 ай бұрын
If the movie blatantly bashed the right she would have loved it.
@elqord.1118
5 ай бұрын
L for Grace here. Went over her head clearly
@pat-orl
4 ай бұрын
Ridiculously
@kingjames6731
4 ай бұрын
She’s been missing the mark a lot lately with her criticisms against movies
@azcurlygurl
5 ай бұрын
Garland conveyed that he intentionally didn't mirror the current partisan divides in the US. His focus was on the importance of the press considering the current climate and dangers of delegitimizing vetted legacy media in order to shape an alternate reality. If the movie did take a side, half the country would refuse to go see it. He explained that he was angry about the misinformation spread during Covid and this was a cautionary tale for everyone. Political and military accuracy were not the point.
@shamwow416
5 ай бұрын
Grace, I love ya, but I don't think you're very familiar with Reuters
@midnightmax2012
5 ай бұрын
Heaven forbid any Writer/Filmmaker vilify Democrats in a fictional work...
@stephenmiller2544
4 ай бұрын
not even vilify, it just didn't crucify the right enough for her liking.
@sonicsnake44
4 ай бұрын
The funny part is it doesn't even vilify Democrat's or Republicans but she is so culture war obsessed that she puts her own bias on the film.
@KaseyMoore
5 ай бұрын
This is probably the worst review I've watched in a long time. Grace wanted this to be a documentary and is treating it as such. It's a great FICTIONAL film that takes liberties and doesn't pick sides or reflect today's political environment and it's all the better for it.
@PathOfRage
5 ай бұрын
A24 being based in NY...I would would vert surprised if it didn't heavily in one direction 🙂...
@MK4lyfe
5 ай бұрын
She didn't like this movie cause it wasnt a superhero movie. If this exaxt plot was in a superhero movie she would be applauding it
@camerontuttle7512
4 ай бұрын
I just saw the movie and I thought it was pretty good
@danielklee5287
5 ай бұрын
Sounds a bit like Garland depicts America in a similar way than many american movies depicting places outside the US. At least he places important buildings in the right cities. Thats not always the case the other way round. =)
@peterpain6625
5 ай бұрын
Exactly what i thought. But but guys: That's how you look to the outside world. A bunch of megalomanical muppets on meth, shrooms and laxatives wielding you big hammer around ;)
@deviam6680
5 ай бұрын
Saw the tweet and knew I had to tune in to the review
@troyortiz2414
5 ай бұрын
Me too
@KJVirander
5 ай бұрын
Same
@OBUCUZ
5 ай бұрын
Samee
@bigd4998
5 ай бұрын
Same!!
@aidedbuffalo3257
5 ай бұрын
Yeppppp
@mcintma2
5 ай бұрын
The Confederacy is regaining its power??? With all due respect, you've been watching too much of The View ;)
@cedarroscoe1066
5 ай бұрын
Having been to every county in Virginia as a political professional since 2016, I can tell you it absolutely has gained momentum
@LetsGetitBoah
5 ай бұрын
@@cedarroscoe1066 Good, because the socialists who have power in the North, have shown how destructive their policies are. See Baltimore, Chicago, NY, Detroit, etc.
@metalrulezv4856
5 ай бұрын
@@cedarroscoe1066your delusional 😂
@tommccauley5302
4 ай бұрын
@cedarroscoe1066 are these "confederats" in the room with you right now?
@billsprestonesq.226
4 ай бұрын
@@cedarroscoe1066 I lived in The South for more than 20 years as an adult (I didn't grow up there) and there's always been some folks hanging onto the 'Confederacy', but it's NOT gaining momentum. It's MORE marginalized now. There will always be some nuts and it may be that they are louder today, but they are not more numerous. (IME, much of the "louder" part is political nutpicking, where partisans deliberately amplify the craziest part of The Other Side.)
@JTAnarky
4 ай бұрын
The problem with modern journalism is that it is activism not journalism. It used to be if you walked in to CNN you'd find journalists with dirty shoes and clothes because they just got back from investigating a story, you walk in now and everyone is wearing pristine clothes and shining shoes.
@MrJoshuaGray
4 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing film. Incredibly realistic when it comes to the carnage of war. The genius of Texas and California teaming up goes beyond the pitfalls of a democrat / republican divide. All Americans should be against Fascism. Highly recommend in Dolby Cinema. The sound mix is haunting.
@90skid88
4 ай бұрын
I completely agree!
@snotfaces69
5 ай бұрын
You missed the point Grace. And I get it. I felt the same way after seeing it last night but taking a bit to really analyze it and take my political bias out of it really makes me understand the film better. And it really does show that when you really don’t like something, you will go out of your way to undermine the entire film/show. I really hope you reconsider a rewatch or just actually listen to what others might be saying.
@jairbear619
5 ай бұрын
She won't. She blocks people on X if they disagree with her opinion on the film. She's soft.
@sergioespinoza506
5 ай бұрын
@@jairbear619 that's such a inmature way to react... more and more I question why I follow the channel!! Couple of years ago it wasn't lke this....
@ThePoliticalBulldog
4 ай бұрын
She did not miss the point. She is spot on - and I say this as someone who lambasts wokey BS. But also as someone who works professionally in elections and politics - who over wrote this film is naive, bumbling and a complete outsider.
@anakoz
4 ай бұрын
This is the main issue I have with Graces reviews, I love her for the most part, particularly with most superhero movies but if she doesn't like someone involved in the production it most certainly will mean she'll speak negatively about the movie.
@paullam382
5 ай бұрын
I'd be interested to hear what actual photo journalists think of this movie.
@jayr3053
5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent
4 ай бұрын
Actually it would be good to hear from any photographer and photo journalist.
@TueSorensen
4 ай бұрын
Yeah - I exited the cinema thinking "Oh good, now there's an action movie for photographers!"
@crimsoncrow
5 ай бұрын
If she things this version of America doesnt add up, the Hunger Games would send her to the ER.
@ArthurDeaville
5 ай бұрын
Except the Hunger Games is a completely fictional country that is not claiming at all to be a version of the US or UK it just happens to have people speaking with American and British accents.
@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7
5 ай бұрын
@@ArthurDeaville What? Look at the official map of Panam, it’s the US. The name is even a portmanteau of pan-American
@ArthurDeaville
4 ай бұрын
@@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7 Even if it is meant to be North America in the future, it's so divorced from the reality of present day US that it feels entirely different. Obviously there are metaphors and parallels to fascism today in any country.
@kdkseven
4 ай бұрын
100%
@Marriedintheislands
5 ай бұрын
if it’s fiction then it should be fiction, if it’s too on the nose, then there would be the complaint that it’s too realistic, sowing seeds of violence and rebellion.🤷🏽♀️
@sandal_thong8631
5 ай бұрын
It's possible one or both presidential candidates could die before the following election in 2028, or even Jan 2025. Do a movie about chaos in America if one or both die or are assassinated. Don't do nonsense.
@reymc55
5 ай бұрын
It sounds like the film is politically ambiguous. Everyone will see it through their own political and philosophical POV. The 2 states that are united are purposely done that way to show no political bias. Si Vi Pacem Parabellum.
@Tike22
5 ай бұрын
After the tweets I knew this was gonna be a spicy vid.
@stevielewinsky
4 ай бұрын
Saw this film last night with my two friends and we all LOVED it. Riveting from start to finish, beautifully filmed and Kirsten Dunst is THAT girl! Everyone’s life experiences informs their perspectives and taste in media, but I would 100% recommend this movie to anyone who expresses interest in seeing it. The photograph slowly developing as the credits roll was *chefs kiss*
@90skid88
4 ай бұрын
My thoughts exact!😎
@1987Liono
4 ай бұрын
Grace, this film shows all the things that happen in other civil wars. The mass graves, the hangings, the refugee camps. Destruction in the cities taking out local landmarks. These happen in plenty of countries around the world. It is not shocking. However due to it happening in America, its scary. It also is shocking to see these events happen in America.
@lifegood3322
5 ай бұрын
Would really love to hear Grace's take on what was going on a few summer's back when the major cities were on fire and police and civilians alike were being murdered in the streets?
@ThePontiffofPonWolf
5 ай бұрын
Peaceful protests - grace probably
@PaulHilburger
5 ай бұрын
Her comment was "YOU KNOWWWWWWW"
@luciusblackwood2640
5 ай бұрын
Huh? I'm sure she and every other person in the country would be disgusted. Why would you suggest otherwise?
@ThePontiffofPonWolf
5 ай бұрын
@@luciusblackwood2640 because BLM good no matter what they do
@mjenningssmith
5 ай бұрын
What allegations against Democrats made this week is Grace referring to? I follow politics pretty closely and I have no clue.
@peterpain6625
5 ай бұрын
Didn't get that one either. It's a roadmovie about morally corrupt journalists set in in a fictional world. Maybe she wants to see more into it than Garland intended.
@FriendlyBatDoom
5 ай бұрын
I don't know as I'm out of the loop on this one.
@damonx6109
5 ай бұрын
Grace thinks of herself as "knowledgeable" about politics and history, but she definitely is not. I'm saying this as someone who's watched her videos for years.
@stuckinnostalgia4356
5 ай бұрын
Sigh... Somehow, the Confederacy has returned...
@sergioespinoza506
5 ай бұрын
@@damonx6109 I concur... Frecuently she says she loves history and then makes a comment on a video/review that clearly reflects the ignorance about history ... like WTF!!!
@TheRManProds
4 ай бұрын
ONCE AGAIN, GRACE MISSED THE WHOLE POINT OF THE MOVIE!
@calvinogden9127
4 ай бұрын
This is one of the most ignorant reviews ive ever seen lmao
@MAB-8815
5 ай бұрын
California and Texas have the largest economies in the country, if there is a federal overreach, not that difficult to imagine them having similar interests, people care more about money than red v blue, just ask lobbyists🤷🏼♂️
@ecebear3
5 ай бұрын
Or the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
@Davidsworldtravels
5 ай бұрын
I just can’t see Cali and Texas ever allying together. I mean, if anything Texas would just secede and stay away from everyone. There’d have to be some real world building explanation for them to ever work together.
@edselgreaves6503
5 ай бұрын
@@Davidsworldtravelsisn't Texas dead smack in the centre of the country and totally landlocked? How can they stay away from everyone? California could, because they're a coastal state. I doubt Texas could physically keep other Americans out the way Cali or NY could.
@Davidsworldtravels
5 ай бұрын
@@edselgreaves6503 I say that bc Texas had a lot of people wanting to secede. Landlocked or not, they are huge and at the bottom of the country. So the border could very well be north of them. It was a serious thing many Texans wanted to vote on.
@sandal_thong8631
5 ай бұрын
I could see Jan 6 style insurrection in Texas if the good guys win election there and the bad guys don't like it. But the movie sounds like a lot of nonsense.
@JezzaBondiBeach
4 ай бұрын
I’m really surprised how much Grace missed the point of the entire movie… but I feel a lot of Americans would struggle with this film
@karenclaudino
5 ай бұрын
No no, I won’t let Grace talk down to Wagner Moura. Brazilian gold right there. 🇧🇷
@IsaacTrumbo
4 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why she hated his character, he was a standout for me.
@thebestissofar1
5 ай бұрын
That's how Hollywood portraits everything country, inauthentic haha 😂😂
@peterpain6625
5 ай бұрын
It's a fictional world the movie is set in. I don't get what's to hard to understand there. Maybe Garland should make them speak Klingon in the next movie for people to get it ;)
@spambertron7434
5 ай бұрын
But knee jerk reaction: immigrants!!!!! -Grace more than likely
@ThatNerdyGeekyGuy
5 ай бұрын
Got the popcorn at the ready for this review after seeing the tweets from last night Grace! 😂
@gerardovalle3017
5 ай бұрын
Why do people still take her opinion serious?
@touchmyrainbow
5 ай бұрын
Everyone will feel how they feel but I disagree with the way you're reviewing and critiquing a movie (an art piece) based on how close it is to reality, holding it to the standard of real world politics, as if it's a docu. Not gonna comment on the movie's quality, it just irked me a little bit how you approached your review. I personally don't think a movie whose plot revolves around politics needs to adjust and be made by mirroring the state of the real world we're living in, examining any parallels is of course interesting but the movie should be held to an artistic standard like every other movie, not a sociopolitical one. Anyway, really enjoy watching you Grace! Waiting for your take on the next X-men episode lol always look forward to that every wednesday.
@M24071
5 ай бұрын
it feels like this movie is made for an international audience who sees US as exactly like this it's almost like a funny parody cause Hollywood always screws up other countries histories
@herbertscott9575
4 ай бұрын
I was going to walk out after 30 minutes, then I read reviews that said all the trailer beats were in the last act of the film. Dont go in with any pre established knowledge of political science or american history or sociology. This film is actually a super dark comedy about the ignorance and naivety of man as we try to play god. Ive watched it twice in Dolby. 9/10.
@hidden-treasures
4 ай бұрын
I hate boring three hour movies, which is what this movie would have been, if they had done what a lot of the critics wanted. A lecture in how the country split up. This is speculative fiction. It doesn't take too much imagination to see how a President like Trump could splinter the country. Or, how California and Texas could wake up to that threat, put aside their differences, to oust him. The Journalists were great. I'm from the North East, so understand how technology and money could keep people there in their (loyal) places. Great Movie. Period.
@kasim7509
5 ай бұрын
just like alex garland i too am someone looking at usa from the outside so i'm curious what it'll be like for me to watch this
@Ramsiusthx
5 ай бұрын
Careful Grace, your one World government, digital currency, social credit score loving self showing.
@sandal_thong8631
5 ай бұрын
The only way to ban the bomb will be one-world government, which will have the authority and nerve to step in to stop genocide, ethnic cleansing, military coups, etc. A very Star Trek-like future, though _Star Trek_ never said how to get from here to there.
@ParasBorgohain
4 ай бұрын
It's just disGRACEful how she opened the review by framing Garland as a foreigner who basically need to watch himself in America.
@tommyburda4719
4 ай бұрын
I think explicitly not having sides was important so you aren't choosing sides and can just see the violence as tragic not heroic
@ricardogallardo572
5 ай бұрын
Love you Grace, but this a Journalism themed movie not a political one, and just be because we are not on the same aisle, I still love you. Im excited for this one!
@Jargon
4 ай бұрын
Americans doing poorly researched movies about conflicts in other countries: it's just fiction ma dude! Americans when seeing it done to them: oh no young man, this is inaccurate and in poor taste of the current climate!
@emanuellawton7942
5 ай бұрын
The movie wants to appear bigger in scope than it actually is.
@user_J117
5 ай бұрын
So what exactly happened on January 6th?
@tragedytrousers1769
5 ай бұрын
Nothing
@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent
4 ай бұрын
Search up on youtube or google or any neutral media service.
@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent
4 ай бұрын
@@mikejunior211 you obviously didn't see the entire footage then. I suggest you do a more exhausting research.
@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent
4 ай бұрын
@@mikejunior211 not falling for the trap. Please look at the full footage of the Jan 6 incident. I'm sure there is stuff you can find enjoy cause it wasn't a peaceful demonstration.
@whitepaint7870
5 ай бұрын
I was so interested to see this review based on your tweets.
@natts
4 ай бұрын
Perhaps if a room of journalists almost all applaud a movie about journalism, they might know what they've seen, and perhaps you don't?!
@xo_kylem6735
5 ай бұрын
Now we know how it feels when Hollywood portrays another country in such trashy, stupid way 😭
@-441-
4 ай бұрын
This movie was absolutely riveting. Idc how anyone else feels about it. And oh yeah, I hated Jessie by the end 🤣🤣
@DarenBRens
5 ай бұрын
Jeez, just enjoy the intimate story rather than the pseudo-projected lore on todays America.
@etziomanitas
4 ай бұрын
Tell me you don’t get the movie without telling me you don’t get the movie.
@BrandonDudley-pr6cv
5 ай бұрын
Its fiction nuff said!
@texascard
4 ай бұрын
It’s not suppose to be real People need to stop comparing it to real life…. Superhero’s destroy New York all the time… where’s the outrage in that? 😂 The point of the movie is to show war through the perspective of journalists
@alexlazzerly3677
5 ай бұрын
I have a feeling this is going to be one of those movies most critics love but the general public doesn’t.
@mattcollins3591
5 ай бұрын
Everyone I know personally who have seen it all loved it 🤷♂️
@alexlazzerly3677
5 ай бұрын
@@mattcollins3591that’s fine but it’s anecdotal. I’ll wait for the rotten tomato audience score and Cinemascore.
@a7000zo
5 ай бұрын
Sonds like a post Ex-Machina Alex Garland movie hahaha
@alexlazzerly3677
5 ай бұрын
@@mattcollins3591 That’s fine buts it’s anecdotal. I’ll wait for the rt audience score and CinemaScore.
@nick1635
5 ай бұрын
I can definitely see a lot of Americans getting riled up by it, the rest of the world not at all.
@padawanmage71
5 ай бұрын
Controversy will be found in any media no matter what. I appreciate the movie for the fact it doesn't pick a side, doesn't justify anyone's way of thinking, just that in any war, chaos is king.
@lancelovecraft5913
4 ай бұрын
She sounds like shes about to cry
@natts
4 ай бұрын
Journalists DO have immunity. It's just a question of other people respecting that or not.
@AgentPewPew
5 ай бұрын
Grace, and for the record I have no dog in this fight, just an observation, but you’re getting absolutely torched in the comments by an overwhelming majority. Care to comment?
@lsdowdle
4 ай бұрын
I think he put Texas and California together on purpose... so that it doesn't make sense in our current climate. Why it happened is irrelevant, what happens is the point. There is no reason-it-happened that would ever justify another civil war... and if one thinks so... then they'll have to accept the brutal reality such a conflict would entail... and that's what the movie is depicting. I don't think the journalists are immoral... they are just in a war zone during a conflict and often on the front lines...with bullets and bomb explosions all around them. I wouldn't expect them to act any differently than soldiers... although without weapons and not involved in the fighting... with the fear and emotional turmoil that comes with being in a life threatening situation.
@AMagicProduction
5 ай бұрын
A modern day civil war in the US is actually an interesting idea, but I feel like it would be so complex that it would almost need to be a streaming show, with multiple seasons. Something like Man in the High Castle
@eliselianaboyd2547
5 ай бұрын
You should read the book, its far better than the show ever was
@livealoha50f
4 ай бұрын
It’s not about civil war. It’s about a war journalist - A24 is an art house.
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