Looking forward to getting back in the saddle in 2021. Best of luck to all of you out there! Believe this year will be better!
@RyanBM
3 жыл бұрын
No need to apologise for playing the game we were all waiting for, that is the best reason of all to take a break. Always enjoy your content mate, well reasoned and understanding on all topics. Congratulations on your degree.
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
@@RyanBM thanks so much. That means a lot!
@shashashashadowbannedbud4371
3 жыл бұрын
@@DefcampMelderonTV 💪 Snapple Power , Go with Honor
@josephteller9715
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but you have to realize that Covid-19 is going to be an issue for the next year. Even if we get the million people a day getting their shots in the USA, according to my medical friends, it will take until November for everyone in the country to get their 2 shots that are needed to be immune... and we still don't know if thats a years protection or five or a lifetime from the shot. There's no long term info, there can't be until studies are done over a number of years.
@RyanBM
3 жыл бұрын
@@josephteller9715 You're not wrong honestly mate, but we will adapt and overcome. Just like we always have. We have to do our part and set a good example.
@Meisio
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that's more I could've asked in terms of credits. A nice retrospective. It looks like you guys had a lot of fun. I had a lot of fun as well. A bit disappointed about the hunter class in the end game, but the leveling was amazing.
@Michael-pf1in
3 жыл бұрын
I was late to classic and missed a lot of content. Server was already consumed by boosting and the more toxic min/max culture. I have been able to find pockets of players like me but it’s not easy. Re-rolled on a very low pop server recently and it’s been a lot of fun. No bots, no boosts, just people grouping and having fun. Would love a fresh server with some changes like you mentioned.
@Muaahaa
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the experience of WoW Classic is hugely impacted by when you start. If you are not near the pack, you are going to miss out on a lot ephemeral experiences.
@unlimitedpower978
3 жыл бұрын
Bloodsail has been great on this. The server pop is small but very little boosting, concentrated on Ally side, and the whole vibe is chill. Economy isn’t crazy expensive. I picked RP server for the more friendly and casual community and it’s been a great decision
@Michael-pf1in
3 жыл бұрын
@@unlimitedpower978 I’ve heard this is the server many choose to create hardcore toons. Seems legit.
@Whurlpuul
3 жыл бұрын
Phase 1 was the best time I've had in WoW in such a long time.
@GothaBillsAndDeath
3 жыл бұрын
From the perspective of a pvper, I can tell you for a fact that most of the time I was honor grinding for gear upgrades because of the way the economy worked and how WBs had taken over. R12-13 wasn't just a title to boast anymore, it was literally the only way to get consistent upgrades, especially now in P6 where the brackets are substantially lower. With respect to what you said in the video, the bots made everything far more difficult. I could never outfarm the bots and the economy fluxuated in such a way that old farms (DME runs) would become obsolete (see the price of arcane crystals now). GDKPs / Alt-culture was promoted. And, with the latter's promotion, came an insane amount of gold boosters spamming up-until the late hours of the night. Which, conversely, made low-lvl zones obsolete because no one was playing them. And if no one's playing these zones, it made the leveling experience here more like a really shitty single-player RPG. That said, I enjoyed my time in Classic. Getting pvp trinkets on all my toons, finding soft-res / gdkps on the side, and raising them through brackets for gear was fun.
@ksherman51
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Looking forward to your future content. This channel was one of the best things to come out of the Classic WoW wave
@yukmoutb5885
3 жыл бұрын
as long as i can watch defcamp stream, and have the shaman discord, im happy :)
@ZenataUSA
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think I'll ever have another experience like Classic P1/P1.5. I lack the words to really convey how I feel about it. Joining a guild with a bunch of strangers before launch, clocking an ungodly amount of /played in the first two weeks, finishing off KT with 80% of the original roster, and all the fond memories of everything in between. I can feel the nostalgia already. I won't be returning in full force for TBC since I have other priorities now, but I will never forget the time I spent in Azeroth laughing and goofing around with the boys. This game has impacted me on a spiritual level.
@victorm.3279
3 жыл бұрын
I feel you man. Although I'm a gamer at heart, COVID took an toll on me, both physically and mentally. Not being able to go to an actual office in order to work, nor see friends and go to bars and stuff... Hopefully, things will get better and we can put all this behind us.
@Bondokill
3 жыл бұрын
Don't know else else to say. Just thank you both for everything.
@dannydee2929
3 жыл бұрын
Love the videos man especially this one, I agree wer all in this together and it has definitely taken its toll. I’m rdy to go back to normal for sure. Glass half full tho can’t wait for tbc and ur future videos. Always a fan.👍
@TheGrego011
3 жыл бұрын
Always loved what you and your bro do for the game. Cheers to getting old and playing for more years to come!
@guydougherty5500
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of the great content and insights you and Defcamp have provided over the years. Appreciated the human aspect of this video about COVID. It’s been isolating, but we are in this together.
@vegardertilbake1
3 жыл бұрын
Love the high quality of content you guys put out!
@cameronknight1057
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve said this on other classic wow recap videos but I just can’t watch these. Does anyone else get like... emotional about classic ending?
@ksherman51
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I am stupid hyped for TBC but knowing this is probably the last big hurrah for my favorite era of WoW is very sad. A fresh will come but it won't be the same as the playerbase will be even more split + people who got their fix of old wow and are done.
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is sad in a way. You're right. Vanilla will not be as popular as it was these last 1.5 years. However, I think the spirit will live on for a very long time
@TyeCozMusic
3 жыл бұрын
Naxx comes out and everyone starts saying classic is ending.. it doesnt make sense though. Look how many populated servers there are. Even if you only retain 10% of the players in a theoretical fresh classic server thats still enough people to sustain multiple servers as populated as the ones you have been playing over the past year. And there will always be returning players too. Classic just begun, it's phase 6.
@purelucknoskill5158
3 жыл бұрын
No.
@TheZdowd
3 жыл бұрын
Not really
@lecrezia
3 жыл бұрын
great to hear you on the channel again, its been a rough year but still some great highs in classic, looking forward to seeing your new content
@earlybirdrogue6392
3 жыл бұрын
You guys are great. Love any new video you put out. It was really good to hear your thoughts and status. Keep those videos coming. I for one still get excited to see a new one.
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
As always, thanks for standing my us Eric! It means so much
@Tetter.
3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah brother
@vintages10
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video man!
@Crix_Gaming
3 жыл бұрын
I cant wait for your TBC vids.
@isaacdesu
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for consistently creating excellent content and being such a force to help bring Classic to life. Of course there are things like you mentioned which could be improved and learned from, but I know that I don't only speak for myself when I say that Classic has been one of the best gaming experiences of my life, perhaps only overshadowed by vanilla itself. IMO the biggest issue afflicting the game has been bots and because of botting, gold selling,. In phase 1 through 3 one of my favourite parts of the game was gold farming (shoutout to Frost), but it seems almost pointless now that people can outperform any goldfarm possible by spending a little cash, and then because of that the effect of GDKPs and boosting have on the difficulty of obtaining characters and gear. Really looking forward to TBC, but vanilla will always have a place in my heart and I hope we will get a fresh classic experience before too long to go through it all again. Hopefully with some improvements and anti chest enabled.
@BrandtMurray
3 жыл бұрын
You guys are great. Can't wait for TBC. Maybe I will get to raid with you guys one day.
@magicc1204
3 жыл бұрын
i really hope they tone down the spell batching and melee leeway for tbc
@EB-bl6cc
3 жыл бұрын
agreed, gonna be a buzzkill for arenas
@CitywideJ
3 жыл бұрын
They won't, they are minimum effort maximum proffit just like Classic. With the amount of gold sellers you can bet your ass some higher ups have stakes in the RMT scene.
@magicc1204
3 жыл бұрын
@@CitywideJ doing these things literally is minimum effort since they implemented them FOR classic to try and recreate the experience. it could literally be as simple as changing numbers
@rurounigato
3 жыл бұрын
My grain of salt is: remove mage boosting on instances. Should a mage farm a full instance alone? Yeah, they could back in vanilla. But just get ppl to 60? It hurts the economy, cos You are forced to Buy gold to get to 60 fast, and also kills the instance progretion, no one is doing instances, ppl are only afk waiting for a mage bot to get them to 59
@Waruto
3 жыл бұрын
I agree... Mages doing 1 pull powerleveling defeats the purpose of playing a lot of the content Classic has to offer. This is the one change I really hope Blizzard can address.
@frankandrew716
3 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt the devs back in the day intended for lowbies to sit in dungeons all day with mages and get boosted like you said. I think back in the day they would have hotfixed this.
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I may make a separate video just on what changes should be implemented in fresh classic
@Muaahaa
3 жыл бұрын
"You are forced to Buy gold to get to 60 fast" why are you forced to do that? You could either just not boost, or play with gold earned on a main. Also, by the time boosting really took off many players already had multiple level 60s. I don't think boosting has as much of an impact as people think it does on the levelling and dungeon experience, because if boosting wasn't available, a lot of players just wouldn't be getting those extra alts levelled. I levelled two characters to 60 without boosting. Then I boosted a third while doing chores around my house. I can say for certain that the third toon would not have been levelled if I couldn't boost them, since I don't have the time or will to go through that journey again while also farming and raiding on my other toons.I suspect this is the case for the majority of boosters. The reason why lowbie dungeons are hard to find groups for is most active players already went through that on their 2-3 toons levelled "normally".
@rurounigato
3 жыл бұрын
@@Muaahaa try and do instances between 1 to 55, no one does, every one is waiting afk to be boosted. Try and get ppl for elite quests, no one is in the world doing stuff, cos they are afk waiting to be boosted. Booster bots kills a big chunk of the game, and it's real hard to get decent gold while leveling and competing with farming bots
@supersolenoid
3 жыл бұрын
World Buffs should be turned in weekly buffs that each Guild has to earn on its own and which only work in specific content (i.e. an ONY buff that works in MC, an MC buff that works in BWL, etc.). Also, instead of straight DPS performance boosting buffs, these could be increased armor, improved resistances, higher mana regeneration, etc.
@MrBack1990
3 жыл бұрын
Mage boosting ruins leveling, economy is horrible when flask are 300+, servers are ran by a coalition and if your not cool with them your blacklisted, horde/ally friendlyness pacts, gdkp ruins economy making poor people poor and rich people rich, parsing/meta, guilds full clear week 1 while blacklisting/trolling thoughs who struggle, mafia on herbs/mining/worldbosses/world resources, constant premades, bots,bots,bots, gold sellers, people that put item in the AH that make you accidently buy for 1k gold without repercussions.
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. In retrospective, I should have covered this
@AshyView24
3 жыл бұрын
But no changes right?
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
@@AshyView24 we got a no changes version, now it's time to do things differently. Like OSRS
@salutations4686
3 жыл бұрын
As a mage main I completely agree, I have stayed away from boosting entirely because I think it's kind of silly to pay a subscription for a game only to then pay in game currency to a booster so that you can skip having to actually play the game you payed for. To each their own, it's just not for me. Sadly it still bugs the hell out of me that it's possible, I like to play the economy game in classic but the whole boosting meta takes away from that side of the game so much.
@CitywideJ
3 жыл бұрын
Yep classic WoW was a bad social experiment tbh.
@KevinArcade87
3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed leveling and still do the leveling crowd is fun. However the endgame 60 crowd is super toxic!
@Muaahaa
3 жыл бұрын
I think what happened is that a lot of endgame guilds formed in phase 1. The good ones with cool people in them have less churn, so you can't really get into them easily since they are probable full. Then there are the toxic guilds that always have people leaving so do more recruiting. If you were not lucky enough to land a chill guild, you are probably encountering those more toxic guilds.
@KevinArcade87
3 жыл бұрын
I didn't mean the 60's in leveling guilds just people in general
@ZapatosVibes
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree. Number one change is no world buffs in raids. Number two change is hard banning bots AND gold buyers to fix the economy (hopefully it'll be implemented before TBC, one can dream).
@Muaahaa
3 жыл бұрын
I also find wbuffs very interesting on pvp servers. Definitely many people will disagree, but I think the stakes it introduces keeps the pvp active and interesting.
@l33tCD
3 жыл бұрын
I've always enjoyed listening and watching your content, and I look forward to seeing more content from you guys as we come closer to an official announcement from Blizzard in regards to TBC. Cheers to a new year and to the prospects it will bring :D
@WonderGoon
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Stay safe.
@spacetime-boundaixitl3490
3 жыл бұрын
re: worldbuffs: add buffed version options for raids with worldbuffs useable in them (just like in wrath theres ruby sanctum normal and heroic) and as non-status rewards a bit more gear or bop consumes
@Kshaadoo
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video Melderon, love your guys content. The year of 2020 was really shitty, if it wasnt for video games like wow, watching your guys streams and videos, Kargoz, Kevin Jordan etc, it would be kinda hard. Also it was good that we have games like vanilla wow and can finally play on official servers and not on pservers where we can lose our characters. It still feels surreal that we have classic wow. I wish blizzard did a better job, but hey, there's always ways to improve something, nothing is perfect and maybe it could've been way worse (cash shops, wow tokens, etc). Anyway I just wanted to say thank you.
@mikedegroot7101
3 жыл бұрын
Melderon FTW
@frankandrew716
3 жыл бұрын
I think blizzard mistakenly thought that they could release classic and leave it be. I think if they would have had their hands on the pulse, they could have addressed alot of these issues early. Now its just out of control. The bots, multi boxing and yes even mage boosting could have been taken care of swiftly if blizzard was paying attention from the start. I will agree with you overall that the game was a resounding success. We got the game of our past back. The memories, nostalgia, and being able to play this game again was and is amazing
@Muaahaa
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone can agree bots are bad, most people probably don't like multi-boxers, but I don't think there is a consensus on mage boosts.
@supersolenoid
3 жыл бұрын
Consumables and the like wouldn't be much of a hassle if they were something you could work towards as a guild, i.e. by making most reagents drop from trash mobs in the very raids you need said reagents for.
@Spechtologe
3 жыл бұрын
Is it a Doctor in Entomology, as Defcamp alluded when you where talking about the fact that Anubrekhan is a Beetle and not an Arachnid? just a curious fan question
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
PhD is in genetics but I did it in an entomology department so I got a lot of residual insect knowledge :)
@puresoulbliss9635
3 жыл бұрын
You touched me Melderon.
@Chozzeone060907
3 жыл бұрын
I love the video I will say you either have to remove world buffs completely (my personal choice) or keep them in. There is no in between.
@peter486
3 жыл бұрын
the thing is that you advocated for No changes. you pretty much said No changes and you pushed it pretty hard, most streamers did, but it was a bad idea, the problem is that the content was two easy. I always wanted changes. I wanted new models. i wanted improved models t emerge myself into the old game in a new way. and i want more challenging stuff. you take a damage number on boss 1000, and multiply that with 2. TBC will be just Two easy and it will be steamrolled. for me classic wow ends here. was one hell of a Journey from P servers , like Nos and Elysium then classic. but its Over now. Thank you everyone that ive met in this game and thank you for the memory's.
@EB-bl6cc
3 жыл бұрын
Great post. My idea from before release was that they have "hard" servers and "normal" servers. A lot of people knew it was going to be way too easy and for the people that wanted at least some kind of challenge they should have done buffed servers, and then the rest of people that are OK with just seeing the content can play on normal servers. They could still do something like this for TBC. I doubt they will though, we will probably just get unbuffed faceroll content
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
I think a "no changes" version of the game had to be made first so people could see what they wanted to change. That's how OSRS did it and no the community is involved in changes and updates. IMO that's what Classic needs to do as well
@EB-bl6cc
3 жыл бұрын
@@DefcampMelderonTV that's fair. I think we can skip the "no changes" version of TBC, or at least give the option of both no changes AND buffed servers, since at this point we've already seen how it's going to go.
@BlazzinBobby
3 жыл бұрын
Sending you a eHug!
@Haroldgreenfield
3 жыл бұрын
If we re-release Classic without world buffs, remove the Debuff cap. This will allow for a totally new meta that will empower players to play classes outside of just melee. If you look at non-buff logs, melee are still near the top. But if we allow for specs like shadow, affliction, enhance, and balance, we will create a totally different experience without removing the core of the game in a "season 2"
@jamescpalmer
3 жыл бұрын
Honest to god without Classic the last 12 months for alot of people would have been bloody awful. Your guys videos got me hyped 2 years before Classic was even announced. Nax has been an amazing blast - agree better than all the other raids - and looking forward to TBC. Guildies and server people have been amazing, Cheers Bloodfang.
@Moonstrider
3 жыл бұрын
TBC will be so good. And for shamans for sure
@Aeren69g
3 жыл бұрын
Classic WoW was just sad, imo. Playing on private servers was waaaay more fun and ofc it doesn't even compare to playing in Vanilla. Speed-leveling in SM instead of leveling in, you know, the actual world, boosting, world buffs, parsing and a fucked economy (300g+ flasks?!) are all reasons for the VASTLY degraded player experience. Leeway and batching just made us sigh and roll our eyes... The player base is so utterly different and overly competitive these days that it was never going to be the same but for those of us who have played the real thing, 2020 Classic was pretty tragic.
@Muaahaa
3 жыл бұрын
Your feels on those are valid, but everyone has their own experience with this. I played Vanilla as a kid, and loved it in a certain way. Now playing Classic as an adult I have loved it in a totally different way.
@Aeren69g
3 жыл бұрын
@@Muaahaa That's cool. I was 23 when it came out so my own mindset/personality/brain hasn't rly changed much since then! :)
@jimbotheimpaler4756
3 жыл бұрын
I have never bought a boost or flask, maybe that’s why I still love the game 😂
@Aeren69g
3 жыл бұрын
@@jimbotheimpaler4756 You miss the point :D
@inoshishitv
3 жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think world buffs should be completely removed from raids in classic but I do wish they would be temporarily banned, maybe for a month after a raid comes out, just to see some real raid progression. This would still allow for speed runs and big parsing runs afterwards, but make the world first races much more interesting. I definitely agree that if blizz doesn't want full progressive itemization then they need to buff the earlier raids to compensate. Never seeing certain mechanics (like sons of ragnaros) because dps checks are too low is just boring.
@JeyDB
3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely believe it was the botters that ruined everything. Gold from the bots flooded the market, which in turn drove the prices of consumables up. I mean, some people had to spend 1000g for one night of raiding Naxx. Most people can't dedicated all that time farming gold just for one night of raiding, and that's on top of making sure you get your world buffs. The influx of gold, whether it be from botters, GDKP, or so many people buying gold for real money, destroyed the economy. The fact that someone bought a weapon in Naxx for nearly 200k gold in Classic, says it all.
@antonc2180
3 жыл бұрын
gold buying is rampant. even people close to me that i never suspected would stoop so low have confessed to buying gold...
@jamescaldwell2357
3 жыл бұрын
What if Blizzard lowered the gold cap and made it per faction/realm. Like, you can only have 10k gold total on all horde characters on Skeram. Also, what if Blizzard implemented a captcha system when you log into a character. And for any complainers, have this on select anti-botting realms. It's the player's choice. Regular realm or an anti-botting realm.
@tangomike2358
3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know when TBC is coming ? Have they announced it ?
@Hyperversity1
3 жыл бұрын
There is really 4 things that they need to change before I ever consider doing Classic again: World buffs, Flasks, Bots, and Mage boosting.
@Temuldjin
3 жыл бұрын
If world buffs got dispelled the moment you entered a raid instance i think that would go a long way to fix the classic experience.
@christianweibrecht6555
3 жыл бұрын
nobody should of been surprised by how one sided P2 was i hope that tBC2 is not released before September "IDC THAT 1% of the player base has naxx on farm already" currently sad because my shaman's guild died because officers and brunt out and half of the members devolved into lazy fiends
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel they are rushing TBC. But you know that money talks...
@christianweibrecht6555
3 жыл бұрын
@@DefcampMelderonTV if blizzard offers paid race transfers in tBC2 a truly astonishing number of players will gladly throw their wallets at them
@faylure9985
3 жыл бұрын
World buffs are cool: I really put a ton of effort in playing Elemental Shaman in Classic and ngl, with world buffs it's amazing. I don't think removing them it's the wise thing to do. The shit aspect of world buffs (apart from inmature 30 yo kids not wanting to raid anymore when they lose them) is that it allows no lifers with priests (and shamans, but I usually see alliance doing this shit) to ruin your mood, and even if you don't get dispelled you have been in distress for the last hour or so? It's a ver shit feeling. And all that without counting on how will you feel when midraid you crit with LIP on cd or your raid wipes, how the mood will be. Hell i've even saw people being happy about wipes because they had lost wbuffs before that wipe. And let's not ignore the fact that you can't play your fully world buffed character until raid time is over and before you gotta start garbing buffs again. IMO World buffs can be adressed very easy without having to remove them from ANY PVE content (idgaf about pvp, if you wanna go fully wbuffed to wsg you know what you signed up for). On the other hand economy... It was already hard when "everyone has a mage alt to farm with", but that's just a lie, an excuse. 70% of the people i've met in this game (and i have chars in 4 servers) have bought 2k gold or more at least once. And we see in gdkp runs people buying final bis for 150k+ per piece or paying t3 pieces for 1-6k. Occidental people laugh at chineese because they had "classic token", but then they proceed to buy gold like crazy, and those same persons are complaining about bots... Lets skip bots, we all know they are dogshit and you should report them everytime you see one. I collect the messages of "thanks for reporting a bot" from Blizzard, my record is 8 mssgs of those on my main, and i have AT LEAST 3 of those messages an every character i've leveled to 35 or more. Mage farms are disgusting but you have to learn them, once you know it's not hard at all, but requires dedication and a bit of knowledge of what are you doing, it's not just spaming max rank blizzard, not everyone farmed Blade of the Eternal Darkness to do ZG trash farms. The problem is boosting, before boosting was a thing people really leveled, maybe many of those people just dungeon grinded, but there was leveling. When the frost mage nation atacked everything went down the drain, there's very little incentive to level your 5th level 60 character via the "normal way", you will struggle a lot on some quests because there's almost no one leveling, you will have very high rewarding quests that won't be completed unless you buy a boost or some 60 rushes the dungeon for you (my last 3 alts with the staff from the Wailing Caverns got them via rush by a lvl 60 friend of mine). And if you like a lot certain dungeon, even if you don't need quests/loot from it, you won't find (most of the time) a group to run it, especially if you are not a tank. All that without counting the "I want to level fast so i need gold to pay boosts. Why would i farm gold to pay boosts if i'm clearly not willing to play the game outside raiding?. I buy gold to pay the boosts to get my alt to level 60, then I buy even more gold to get the loot I want from GDKP runs". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ TLDR: World Buffs are not a problem, have issues that can easily be adressed. Bots and gold buyers have been unpunished all this time, especially gold buyers. If you ban a bot but you don't ban whoever uses the money they buy with IRL currency you just allow the market to gain value at the same time you allow the real criminals, the buyers, go unpunished and fuck their server's economy. Mage AOE farm it's fine, Mage AOE Boosting (or any class really) it's not fine and it killed a huge part of what wow was suposed to be. I bet many of the toxicity born in Classic could had been avoided if those people were leveling their alts and interacting with people instead of buying gold, get their alt to 60 and then keep camping songflower with their Nelf Priest. Sorry for the long text, i got passionate about the subject.
@zeratulrus142
3 жыл бұрын
So, is it confirmed that fresh vanilla servers will be coming out alongside TBC?
@jb7595
Жыл бұрын
Did you work on SOM or did they just copy this video?
@joshheinink
3 жыл бұрын
We are tested everyday not everyone is strong enough to survive
@Babaganoosh69
3 жыл бұрын
I'll touch on the wow token being a possible solution for botting. All I'll say is that botting still exists in retail even after all the changes they've brought in to combat it. Token, max level boost, etc. Watch the recent asmongold video that shows the tip of the iceberg of retail botting
@seanwilliams7655
3 жыл бұрын
RMT and bots are intimately connected. They really need to do a better job of banning people who buy gold and other RMTs. Do that, and the bots will go away cause there won't be a market for them
@TheZdowd
3 жыл бұрын
I think vanilla classic was only good from phase 1-3. Basically before boosting and gold sellers/buyers were everywhere
@jibberjabber6919
3 жыл бұрын
I really hope they don't release TBC too soon. September/October 2021 is fine. You will instantly kill classic once you release TBC. Classic has'nt even been out for two years. Also, Blizzard needs to be more pro-active in hunting and banning botters/farmers.
@Juggs_WoW
3 жыл бұрын
I’d be in favor of making world buffs get stripped when you zone in raids.
@Croshiuz
3 жыл бұрын
What you are saying is you want to do Naxx without world buffs? No thanks :D I doubt even the hardcore classic players will have a hard time keeping up with the consume cost of dying 20 times per night
@EB-bl6cc
3 жыл бұрын
aren't some guilds already doing no world buff naxx?
@Croshiuz
3 жыл бұрын
@@EB-bl6cc sure but doing the entire raid without world buffs is very time and gold intensive and taxing on your entire raid/guild. Definitely leads to burnout unless people know what they signed up for and are okay with it :P My own opinion of course but I'm quite sure I wouldn't enjoy the game as much as I have without world buffs atleast
@Croshiuz
3 жыл бұрын
@@EB-bl6cc A better way to solve the issue of world buffs making progress trivial is to disable world buffs in raids for the first month or so, like how some private server have done in the past. I think that would keep both parties "happy"
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
I definitely get that but we know that the dev's didn't intend for players to stack them as they are now. It will make raiding take longer, I agree. For me, its about providing a good experience for the players that actually want to wipe and progress. TBC will be easier than p servers but there are no buffs to force bosses down. I personally like that better
@m2jones32
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like its a little disingenuous when you claim stuff is too easy after you spend weeks practicing for a raid on PTRs weeks before it comes outs. You complain its not challenging yet you are spending hours in prep just to do it in the first week.
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
Only true for aq40, naxx despite preparation was still difficult
@frazerrhughess
3 жыл бұрын
I really hate to leave a negative comment, especially on a melderon video which have always been a bastion of positivity that I love, but I don’t really agree that blizzard delivered a good product with classic. It felt like they didn’t really understand the game they were putting out, nor did the player base. The community did our best, and the classic devs did their best, but it just didn’t play out in a very fun way. I’m not sure that it could have gone down any other way, but I feel classic was largely disappointing. I really hate to say it, but it wasn’t a good experience for me.
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
Nah, man. We love everyone's opinion here. And I get it. Classic has been fun for me overall but there were ups and downs for sure
@schniesn9366
3 жыл бұрын
I dont really get it, youre not required to get worldbuffs, you shit on them but after you wipe on Loatheb you call your whole Raid to go and get new Worldbuffs??????????? Just dont use them, its your own choice, you are a GM, just make a guild without worldbuffs..
@ZapatosVibes
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely no on the WoW token. It would completely ruin the integrity of the game economy and gold, just as it did in retail. Swipe your credit card and p2w to your heart's content. At least buying gold now is a bannable offense, it's just not enforced. Enforce it, and gold buying will go WAY down, and it'll be much better for all.
@Rational_Driver
3 жыл бұрын
Kinda funny when a player who mains a shaman completely glosses over the spell batching issue. You elemental shaman have been using an exploit the ENTIRE time making PvP so frustrating. All you guys do is EM - CL - Shock and one shot players.
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
It's vanilla like. Look at the TBC patch notes
@Humaster
3 жыл бұрын
naxx is easy. try again. The only challenge to classic is to get 40 to show and you dont even need 40.
@DefcampMelderonTV
3 жыл бұрын
It may be easy for you but for most guilds it isn't easy. It has the potential to be easy of course. However, most guilds are not made up of competitive players
@Humaster
3 жыл бұрын
@@DefcampMelderonTV ur definition of hard is the problem. When 34 guilds on my server have cleared it and there is 6-7 GDKPs already happening, that doesnt sound like hard. HARD is when maybe 1-2 guilds on your server clear something.
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