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@PurpleIrishSweater
10 ай бұрын
This commercial is HYSTERICAL! Also - it is absolutely perfect. 💜💜 “Fragrances” has never sounded so fabulous🤣😂
@caseyw.6550
10 ай бұрын
Can we get a video on the beliefs of the scentbird ceo??? Lmao! Cause...equally as wild imo.
@eszterrosta5523
10 ай бұрын
OK BUT THIS PARFUM ad read was everything!!!!
@GreenDragonSlayer690
10 ай бұрын
The way you said "F-*grimace*-Feminist" in this ad 🤣🤣10/10
@quitti
10 ай бұрын
You and James do such fantastic commercials 😂😂😂
@littlemisslananas3214
10 ай бұрын
"Men don't have to wait to have sex" Madame, they never did. They were always able to get sex outside of marriage and rarely faced the same consequences for it that a woman would.
@Mama_Bear524
10 ай бұрын
I was gonna say!! Prostitution is the oldest job 😂. Also, rape has been around forever. If a man wants to cheat, or get sex, he will. And always could. This isn’t new. She’s projecting.
@katrinam6795
10 ай бұрын
I read Stefan Zweig's "The world of yesterday" once. It is an account of one Austrian Jew and him growing up in the upper crust of late Austrian-Hungarian empire, pre-Nazi Vienna. His chapter in sex is crazy. He deplores the way women of his class were shielded, sheltered and kept naive, describes how all the boys, underage boys in his class, kept getting syphilkis or unwanted children, how they dated lower-class women but knew they would never start anything serious, and how modern and liberated and equal both the Paris people and the new (Nazi-era!) Generation was sexually compared to his. Reading this was a wild ride
@coollittleslugonarock
10 ай бұрын
oftentimes, like in the victorian era, men were very much encouraged to in order to keep their wives “pure”, but if a woman did she was considered “fallen” and would be shunned by her community. it’s like they gaslight themselves into thinking there’s no history whatsoever and all these ideas are brand new.
@francisnopantses1108
10 ай бұрын
In the early 20th century in the US it was depressingly common for men to take their boys to a prostitute at 13 years of age. Men's age of sexual debut in the US has risen, not gone down. If you're curious, US Army filmstrips in WWII about the dangers of STDs did a lot to end that horrific practice.
@francisnopantses1108
10 ай бұрын
@@katrinam6795India today is much like this. I had a female friend who cut off her male cousins because they were all fucking lower class women with no intention of marrying them and bragging about it.
@NUFAN1313
10 ай бұрын
Manipulating your husband into "letting" you have a baby doesn't sound like a recipe for resentment and dysfunction at all 🙄
@Pfpfpfpfpf2020
10 ай бұрын
Fr!!!!
@marilynmalcolm9920
10 ай бұрын
Seems like one of those things they should have discussed before marriage.
@XXwhoknowsXX81
10 ай бұрын
It’s a real gross thing
@naryainc
10 ай бұрын
Their whole lifestyle is motherhood but they can't even tell their own husbands about it. Wth
@gaywaterfrog
10 ай бұрын
Right and like…if you believed what you’re saying, shouldn’t you just ask him what he wants, then let that stand? What’s all this subtle grappling for power and self-actualization? Do you- why, I hardly dare to ask- do you WANT TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR YOURSELF?? 🙄🙄🙄
@beth2721
10 ай бұрын
I think it’s telling that Abby’s idea of a child free woman is traveling, partying, and drinking without a care in the world. Her idea of a no- children life comes from a highly privileged place, like “oh if you’re not spending money on raising a new baby, then surely you must be spending it on a life of hedonism!” Abby I’m buying groceries and paying off wisdom tooth surgery. The last thing half of us need is another mouth to feed besides our own
@nuclearcatbaby1131
10 ай бұрын
My child free life is spent studying and living a frugal, straightedge life in solitude.
@SadisticSenpai61
10 ай бұрын
I mean, I bought a driving wheel for my PC for when I play Farming Simulator... Is that hedonistic? lol Well, I did also buy a book of classical music for flute. I bet Abby would approve of that.
@jupiterthree5228
10 ай бұрын
@@SadisticSenpai61 That sounds awesome, actually 😂
@vespertine2326
10 ай бұрын
I'm married, we own our home and make decent money, and I guess we could "afford" children- but what if something happens? Our siblings have kids, what if something happens to them? Our parents are getting older, what if something happens to them? We definitely can't afford to have our own children AND cope with the potential/probable needs of our existing family. We can only "afford" children in a world where nothing goes wrong for the family we already have, and that's just not realistic.
@SadisticSenpai61
10 ай бұрын
@@vespertine2326 At some point, ppl either decide to take the risk or avoid it entirely. Only really well off ppl can "afford" to have kids while not worrying about emergency funds.
@Tngrobanite
10 ай бұрын
As a soprano, I feel that I must share a nugget of wisdom from my college choir teacher. "Just because you can technically hit a note, doesn't mean you should."
@Kourinthia
10 ай бұрын
Yes! All I can think about is how unsupported it sounded. 😅
@nicolebrown622
10 ай бұрын
she has capabilities, but its hard to believe her when she said she is "classically trained" because I damn sure couldn't hear it.
@Kourinthia
10 ай бұрын
@@nicolebrown622 I wonder how much work she put into that training because the classical raining only goes so far if you don’t work at it
@elizabethh560
10 ай бұрын
Seriously yes! Every teacher I've had has said something similar. One even went so far as to say that if you keep hitting those high notes without proper support, you're going to shred your voice.
@spa-peggymeatballs4861
10 ай бұрын
Thank you! I was just about to comment that I wish someone qualified to do so would review Abby’s singing. Can someone expand on what you mean by “not properly supported”?
@toddgault
10 ай бұрын
The part where Abby said men no longer have to get married to have sex confused me for a second, I guess she didn’t realize prostitution has existed since even before biblical times.
@Mama_Bear524
10 ай бұрын
😂 same
@MariusMoonbeam
10 ай бұрын
They don’t have to get married to have sex now 😂😂
@cowgirl9014
10 ай бұрын
All through history men had harems, mistresses and prostitution…
@francisnopantses1108
10 ай бұрын
Lots of Orthodox women practice extreme delusion about men. They will claim that Orthodox men don't masturbate and sadly many in the closed communities are in denial about their husbands going to strip clubs or passing for sex with shiksas.
@AnUndeadMonkey
10 ай бұрын
"The oldest profession" as they say
@hollypacheco2139
10 ай бұрын
As a child welfare social worker I can assure you, not everyone should have kids.
@ellaisboring
9 ай бұрын
As a respite carer who often takes the place as a guardian for those kids, I can't agree with you more...
@lilspeace7097
8 ай бұрын
as someone who spent part of their life as a kid in the system, I second that.
@MissCaraMint
8 ай бұрын
Yes. Personally I still struggle with taking care of myself. I’m not equipped to take care of a whole other person.
@Chillikilli
7 ай бұрын
Exactly such a brain dead take. Like I wanna know what rock she is living under.
@dawnamariamiriam
4 ай бұрын
Yep, 100% this. I should have been removed by CPS. My parents should not have reproduced.
@laurenconrad1799
10 ай бұрын
"Women want to be married. Full stop." And when did you put out a survey to 4 billion people on earth and get the results? I must have missed that.
@Draqer
10 ай бұрын
Well the people who believe that kind of stuff just assume anyone who would say "no" on that survey are just lying.
@merbst
10 ай бұрын
* Citation Needed
@merbst
10 ай бұрын
@@DraqerNo Citation Needed for that!
@Jo-Elle504
10 ай бұрын
There are societies where women feel they need to be married. That’s not the same as “want”. That’s so sad. I like being married to my particular husband. Not marriage in general.
@arkroogs90
10 ай бұрын
How does she just live her life believing these blatantly false things?? It breaks my brain.
@clairebear-96
10 ай бұрын
Abby said “number 3 is, don’t do drugs” Idk, based on how many pills housewives were generally on in the 50s, I’d say you could argue that doing drugs is pretty classic lmfao
@alyshaking
10 ай бұрын
This made me giggle, thanks 😂
@EmoBearRights
10 ай бұрын
The Rolling Stones even wrote a song about it Mother's Little Helper.
@xandra4625
10 ай бұрын
Whenever I bring that up they never answer back. They're not ready for that conversation. Or the amount of alcohol consumed.
@TheShadowChesireCat
10 ай бұрын
My paternal grandmother had overwhelming anxiety, and needed serious psychiatric pills to function. My maternal grandmother drank almost nothing but instant coffee and smoked like a chimney.
@KireiC
10 ай бұрын
@@xandra4625and cigarettes smoked!
@jillmeltzer2377
10 ай бұрын
I’m a feminist and a stay-at-home wife and mother. I’ve never once been insulted or devalued by the amazing feminists in my life because we values CHOICES!
@AnastaciaInCleveland
9 ай бұрын
My feminist mentor was a fierce SAHM!
@cherrybomber69
9 ай бұрын
SAHMs are literally the back bone of feminism, it irritates me to no end when we are demonized or ostracised from the cause
@Whet-wb9jt
9 ай бұрын
Exactly, it's about CHOICES
@shannonfbc1
9 ай бұрын
Well some women like to snark others period but yeah I've never felt attacked by feminists as a homemaker
@windkind
8 ай бұрын
This is how it should be. Sadly there are enough of these "straw woman" feminists to create a problem for feminism as a whole. I have met (personally in real life) so many women hating on everything "traditionally" feminine and devaluating the role as a sahm that it put younger me (who always was a girly girl and who always knew I wanted to have kids someday) off of feminism for a long time.
@jahbern
10 ай бұрын
I’m a 46-year-old life-long feminist, so I’ve seen some things. I carried my hardback copy of Backlash around in high school in the 90s and was made fun of for it, but I didn’t care. I raised a strong daughter pursuing traditionally masculine pursuits (she marched a bass drum and is a pilot), but I myself am currently a stay at home mom. Girls and women, take heart. The nonsense these people are spewing sounds dire, but it’s manufactured. No one *who matters* cares what you look like, what you do, or any of that. They care what kind of person you are. Be you. Be kind. Have a career or don’t. Have kids or don’t. Get married or don’t. None of these people matter and I promise it’s possible to find lifelong happiness on your own path - whether that path is alone, with a partner, with or without kids, with 32 cats or 8 dogs. Find your path and enjoy your life. Get therapy. Learn to tune out negativity. Choose health and happiness. Do whatever it takes to protect yourself from these tradwife red pill idiots. They. Don’t. Matter. Don’t be like them. Don’t waste your life. You are awesome and you are worthy of love and friendship and support. ❤
@justkiddin84
10 ай бұрын
Hear! Hear! Sister, You are 100% on the mark!❤❤❤
@cynthiaevery2801
10 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@donicaharris6163
10 ай бұрын
Can confirm this, you must do what speaks to YOU. Feminism was and still is about choice, among other things. I think these ladies will come full circle and realize, "Choice is NOT the root of all evil."
@jennifermathieu1428
10 ай бұрын
Love this.
@yesipan
10 ай бұрын
are you by any chance adopting
@Kyrkys
10 ай бұрын
The absolute hypocrisy of Mrs. Midwest talking about a women’s right to choose their life path was not missed.
@Pajali
10 ай бұрын
You have the right to choose your own path out of these one (1) choices. All other paths are invalid and will result in a permanent ban from the Cool Kids’ Table.
@Lauren-zg9zo
10 ай бұрын
Yup. I caught that
@PamelaMerrittadk
10 ай бұрын
The whole point of these trad cults was to make you feel like you're choosing it voluntarily.
@drf61499
10 ай бұрын
they think they believe in choice which is why they’re pro-life. they believe that fetus is just as human as an adult woman, therefore that baby has a choice to live. it’s wiiild
@Beingamomrules
10 ай бұрын
The woman you were talking about… Mrs. Midwest, or whatever she absolutely chose to do what she was doing in the fact that you guys are criticizing her for it is super offensive as a feminist myself because I guess… You just wouldn’t understand would you..? Nah..you guys are like TERFS for women that CHOOSE that life…wow.
@Handle4675
10 ай бұрын
While I think there is stigma against stay at home moms, I don’t think it’s from feminists. I think it’s from patriarchy valuing work done by men over work done by stay at home parents. There’s a stereotype of mom laying around at home all day while dad provides for the family. The only work patriarchy values is paid employment , especially done by men in male dominant fields.
@aprilhelm518
10 ай бұрын
True, it is a real thing a lot of people believe.
@rodie3602
9 ай бұрын
Period
@olivegoddess1
9 ай бұрын
💯
@Guineapigsreadingbooks
9 ай бұрын
I also think that women like Abby and Mrs Midwest stigmatize being a stay at home mother, because they glorify the very racist and really everything-phobic view of what they think the world should be like. My mother was a stay at home mom for the majority of my childhood. She also has a doctorate, is mostly progressive, and was very supportive of me when I came out. A lot of people didn’t understand why she (the more educated one of my parents) wasn’t working, but put her career on hold for my father’s and our family. I also hear a lot of warning from people who know what hurt dependency can cause that women should always be able to support themselves and have one foot in the career world in case something happens and they have to support themselves. It usually isn’t an attack, but more a warning that tragedy can strike at any time, that relationships can go sour, and that reentering the work force after primarily caring for kids for a few years is really difficult.
@aprilhelm518
9 ай бұрын
@@Guineapigsreadingbooks Good point!
@spiceupyourafterlife
10 ай бұрын
With most other KZitemrs, I skip the sponsor part, but I love that you guys make an effort to make that part funny and entertaining. It always makes me smile.
@somewhat-blue
10 ай бұрын
The 50s TV housewife voice in particular was SHOCKINGLY good.
@daenerys02
10 ай бұрын
yes! not gonna buy bc i live in south america but i appreciate the sketch 😂 effort is duly noted
@spiceupyourafterlife
10 ай бұрын
@@somewhat-blue Right? It gave me Judy Garland vibes!
@zachzuchowicz4842
10 ай бұрын
The asbestos factory mention, single income in the fifties, and disgust gulp before saying feminism got me! 😂
@glendastansbury5702
10 ай бұрын
Just watched a deep dive on Keyas World about the founder of Scentbird. It was wild!!
@coffee8599
10 ай бұрын
Abby is SO aggressive, that I.. a married, pregnant, stay at home mom... HER TARGET AUDIENCE, feel threatened and insecure just listening to her. Pure fearmongering.
@More13Feen
10 ай бұрын
Same. This content is so toxic for us SAHMums... I get weary as soon as I see any numy bloggers at this point
@heidi3963
10 ай бұрын
Exactly! I do work part time, but at a glance, my family is very "traditional." We're hetero, married, religious, have lots of children, and I love being a mother! But that doesn't mean that I have ANY sympathy for or affinity with all of the toxic, conservative, and bigoted KZitemrs like Abby and Mrs. Midwest. I find their opinions appalling! Particularly the part about parenthood being MANDATORY! I have met too many abused and neglected children to believe such sickening rhetoric. Choosing whether or not to have children is a deeply personal choice and shouldn't be taken lightly!
@lexidarling
10 ай бұрын
@@More13Feen Ugh, yes. As a fellow homemaker I can’t begin to count the amount of times I’ve tried to browse homemaking/SAHM related videos, watch one that seems interesting, and then they’ll turn out to be some trad/fundie type spouting right wing crap. It’s so tiring.
@nathanjasper512
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think the criticism needs to be that it's fine to be a stay at home mom. Good even, it just shouldn't be a choice forced on people.
@karinwahlrab3377
9 ай бұрын
You’re a true gem 💎 Thank you for your kindness and respect, I wish you happiness, prosperity, & peace ✨
@Ticket2theMoon
9 ай бұрын
That clip of Abby talking about D&D and Warhammer makes me sad because…she could be a normal person. She could just like the things she likes, wear the clothes she likes, enjoy the aesthetic she likes, and leave other people alone. She’s such a caricature most of the time, seeing a glimpse of authenticity just makes it so much worse.
@wyldweaverandwyrm
9 ай бұрын
She seemed so briefly normal and chill, it was weird. It made me sad too because it seemed like a glimpse into an alternate version of her who isn’t consumed by being judgy and misogynistic.
@unidentifiedwhistlingobjec6515
8 ай бұрын
I'm so curious as to what playing in a campaign DM'd by Abby would be like
@courtneywitherspoon8584
10 ай бұрын
Wanting a husband doesnt make you a pick-me, Caitlin. But living your whole life as a performance for men--that makes you a pick-me.
@naryainc
10 ай бұрын
Tbh, I find the whole pickme and notlikeothergirls policing so regressive and misogynistic in and of itself.
@elleofhearts8471
10 ай бұрын
on top of throwing other women under the bus just to curry the favor of men as well. Being male identified (not identifying as a male, that's completely unrelated to being male identified) in general is a headache.
@elleofhearts8471
10 ай бұрын
oh, and patriarchal bargaining
@bebeenderson7863
10 ай бұрын
@@naryainc not really. It’s fighting extreme ignorance with extreme logic.
@LoneWulf278
10 ай бұрын
@@elleofhearts8471 Very much so.
@laurenschmidt4880
10 ай бұрын
As someone who is on birth control for endometriosis, the demonizing of it pisses me off. The pill gave me my life back. I was bed ridden from pain.
@Pfpfpfpfpf2020
10 ай бұрын
Same. Same. And they can pry it from my cold, dead hands.
@onions831
10 ай бұрын
I had absolutely insane mood swings and pmdd, the pill literally changed my life too
@illyriamarsss
10 ай бұрын
the patch changed my life fr
@MH-il2ps
10 ай бұрын
A lot of people, when they demonize birth control, it's usually some repackaged 1960's propaganda. For example, you see people going on TikTok claiming that it "causes" a hormonal imbalance, or infertility - this is the same stuff that conservatives were saying in the 50's and 60's, but it's juxtaposed to make it seem like it's coming from a more "educated" standpoint. It's designed to make you think "no, this isn't just some old wasp lecturing me against the pill... it's a young and pretty person trying to educate me about BC!" the other problem with BC is that it is a carcinogen. But that doesn't mean most people are at risk. Usually this means that people with BRCA genes should be aware that this is a hazard. But some people have decided to twist this into "no one should take it because it's a carcinogen and all carcinogens are bad for everyone." But Abby wasn't wrong in saying that the birth control pill can cause a fertilized egg to not implant - this is actually correct. And I love Jen, but she was also wrong in this video where she says this doesn't happen. Where Abby gets it wrong, is when she defines pregnancy as a fertilized egg. That's why SHE thinks it causes abortions. But she states it as if it were settled fact that BC causes abortions, when really, it's just Abby's opinion.
@phi1105
10 ай бұрын
Yes! I have pcos and the freedom I've gotten back from my implant is insane!
@mordaciousfilms
10 ай бұрын
Abby : "People are getting married because they're in love, because it makes them happy, and that's bad. Marriage is an obligation and that's it. You are a baby-making machine and that's it."
@karastired
10 ай бұрын
"Birth control is immoral " Try having endometriosis or ovarian cysts and tell me how immoral it is. I literally had a period cramp so painful once that I fainted from it. But tell me your little opinion on how evil birth control is, Abby.
@evelien135
10 ай бұрын
Oh Dutch women believe that’s because of birth control!
@OliviaBaker
10 ай бұрын
I was hospitalized for an ovarian cyst at 14 and experience pain and fever whenever I ovulated, so I went on birth control at age 19 to prevent further damage to my reproductive systems, yet people tell me that it's immoral. It's literally so I can still have children when I'm married and ready for them.
@beckybertish7841
10 ай бұрын
I don't have endometriosis but my period would be heavy and painful so I'm all for birth control(also don't want kids). I can't believe that Abby thinks motherhood isn't a choice...yes it is!! Not everyone should/have kids...my brain hurts from this...the mental gymnastics..😵😵💫
@char_shine
10 ай бұрын
Almost could not function my ovarian cysts were so painful last week. I was vomiting and nearly bed ridden. I hauled my butt over to planned parenthood and got myself back on BC as soon as I could function properly. Only reason I ever stopped was because I lost insurance and I'm not sexually active anyway so it wasnt important if I wasnt in pain
@helenr4300
10 ай бұрын
The limits to access to birth control in parts of US is horrific. Yes it is certainly not just about pregnancy. And even when it it is - birth control and good sex ed are the best causes (shown in studies in many countries around the world) for reduction in levels of unplanned /unwanted pregnancies. IE the best way to reduce abortion levels is to have good sex ed for teens and access to birth control for all ages. But the rejection of these options shows that the pro lifers are not interested in reducing abortion levels, but only in controlling bodies.
@gnmddy1
10 ай бұрын
Here is something you missed Jen. All these Fundie “stay at home” moms who make videos telling women that would should be fulfilled by by being a mom WORK! Being an influencer, a KZitem content creator is a JOB! So clearly they are NOT fulfilled with being a housewife which is why they needed to find a career.
@sarahlily2719
10 ай бұрын
So TRUE!
@Schokoladentoertchen
10 ай бұрын
Yeah I wonder this all the time. If you are perfectly happy just being a mom and wife and you don't need approval from anyone but your husband, why go on the internet and make videos?
@stephaniejones6076
10 ай бұрын
Literally yes lol I know actual women living ‘trad wife’ lives and they don’t care to do ANY stuff like this and frankly, wouldn’t have time
@marieo305
10 ай бұрын
According to Abbey I'm doing single childfree wrong. I should party more.
@liliananicoleti2567
9 ай бұрын
Are u traveling enough? Being selfish enough? I AM not, I have to study, work and look after aging parents, which is not on her book for the single childfree.
@elektra121
8 ай бұрын
But let's be honest: we *should* party more.
@marieo305
7 ай бұрын
@@liliananicoleti2567 sorry for the late reply. No, also no traveling and being selfish enough. And like you, study, work and caring for aling and aging parents. For a girl who claims to be classy, Abbey talks alot of poo about people with a diffent life than her dreamlife
@marieo305
7 ай бұрын
@@elektra121 absolutely
@alice_rabbit8345
Ай бұрын
You’re slacking!
@CaptainPeregrin
10 ай бұрын
Mrs. Midwest talking about how she doesn't judge a grocery clerk for not going to med school...how does she know that grocery clerk ISN'T going to med school, or saving up for it? I actually worked at a grocery store for a while to save up for college. It's not unheard of.
@YounhaMizuki
10 ай бұрын
Also, it's honest work, and that's nothing to be ashamed of.
@PurpleIrishSweater
10 ай бұрын
EXACTLY what I thought. In my head it was “what - all folks going to med school are able to do so without working part/full time??” I was a waitress and a single mom when I went to nursing school. FATWO lady
@eerielakeerie
10 ай бұрын
honestly, i was just thinking that she seems like EXACTLY the kind of person who would judge a grocery clerk for not going to med school.
@evasartorius9528
10 ай бұрын
She had that thought though, didn't she? It doesn't sound like se choose to tough it out and go either route, she choose to be decorative instead.
@Peepeepoopoo5543
10 ай бұрын
I feel like these types of people never gained object permanence or something like they cant imagine possibilities outside of whats in front of their face
@rhiannajd4412
10 ай бұрын
It’s funny how all these women claim they don’t have careers when they have a career on the internet making millions of dollars. They can thank feminism for that.
@elleofhearts8471
10 ай бұрын
lol they'd sooner thank Phyllis schlafly
@GBfanatic15
10 ай бұрын
and they have a gay man to thank for the concept of a computer
@krisztinadobo1367
10 ай бұрын
My thought exactly! They fucken tout themselves as tradwives, but they bust their ass like crazy to crank these videos out! I dont have experience in this line of work, but it should be at least a part-time job... How fucken delusional...
@MyMerryMessyGermanLife
10 ай бұрын
Yes! I always think that, too. Like, lady, you’re working. You’re doing really well on KZitem. So for them to say they don’t work, while they slave away at home and at night for their husbands, is so ridiculous. It all goes to shit once you have kids.
@rhiannajd4412
10 ай бұрын
@@GBfanatic15 Oop. Said what needed to be said.
@morgaincrochettiger
10 ай бұрын
My first marriage was a result of "women need to get married" and it was a terrible disaster. Marriage number two happened when I decided to never marry again, but we realized we didn't want to live without each other. Upgrade Spouse was worth the journey it took to meet them!
@morgaincrochettiger
10 ай бұрын
The Dylan Mulvaney shit? I'm 46 and STILL call myself a girl!!
@micol7490
8 ай бұрын
Dylan is such a cute girl. I love how she can be so ironic and sincere at the same time when she finds out some of the "girly things" in her journey are kind of a social construct. And the way she talks about her journey is so fresh and authentic... Idk, parasocial relationships aside, I feel like I wish I could be her friend in real life. Btw sorry if i'm confusing to read but english is not my first language 😅
@alim.9801
8 ай бұрын
I hope you and Upgrade Spouse are doing amazing dude!! 💜
@alim.9801
8 ай бұрын
@@micol7490 your English is great my friend don't worry :)
@jostockton.
2 ай бұрын
@@micol7490Dylan is a man mocking women.
@scout8145
10 ай бұрын
Imagine being one of Abby’s kids as an adult, hearing “motherhood isn’t a choice,” and coming to the logical conclusion that you were an accident
@Pajali
10 ай бұрын
Or maybe she never even wanted kids, but she had them out of social obligation and secretly resents them.
@justkiddin84
10 ай бұрын
Right or we’re just a thing that she thought had to happen.
@justkiddin84
10 ай бұрын
@@Pajalilike Ruby Franke.
@kellyradtke4885
10 ай бұрын
Kids 100% know when they're resented!!! So sad.
@Jo-Elle504
10 ай бұрын
My brother and I were accidents, but we knew our parents loved us. No biggie, but to be an obligation? Yuck.
@samkling5636
10 ай бұрын
"Men have higher suicide rates, higher incarceration rates, etc." and who put those systems in place, Caitlin??
@iva6583
8 ай бұрын
Also women have higher depression and suicide attempt rates. Male suicides are mostly impulsive and not due to chronic depression. Men and women who suck up to them try so hard to make it seem like men have it harder in life than women do yet they have to lie at every turn to paint that picture
@doIIsparts
2 ай бұрын
also maybe if men stopped committing like 90% of all crime, maybe so many of them wouldn't be incarcerated 🤷♀️ it's not our fault nor is it discriminatory against men that they get punished for committing crimes lol take it up with the law!
@MelloPumpkin
10 ай бұрын
I find it really interesting both Ben and Abby both really wanted to be in the entertainment industry but ultimately failed and then pivoted to conservatism and then started to integrate their former interests, script writing and singing into their conservative endeavors.
@nataliepaad1869
10 ай бұрын
They are unfulfilled, miserable people trying so hard to convince themselves that they're actually happy and their lifestyle are worth following. They can't comprehend how people different from them can actually feel satisfied with life.
@Quaila
10 ай бұрын
Failed entertainer to revanchist ideologue pipeline strikes again
@nuclearcatbaby1131
10 ай бұрын
Their cousin Mara Wilson was successful.
@PokemonRules333
10 ай бұрын
@@nuclearcatbaby1131I still can’t believe that Mara Wilson is Ben and Abby’s cousin
@sylvia1797
10 ай бұрын
Several years ago (Abby either wasn't on KZitem at all or, if she was, hadn't switched to politics yet) I'd heard that Ben Shapiro had an opera singer sister who didn't want to be associated with him because it might damage her career. It appears the opera career did not work out.
@ninjakatherine
10 ай бұрын
The funniest thing about Classically Abby saying that child free people are free to "party it up" 😅 is that she has it all wrong. It's Friday night and I've been on my couch for 5 hours watching The Office for the 789th time and I've never been happier.
@leonideschnuppe
10 ай бұрын
I thought the same. There are more then 2 pathes in life Abby! Yesterday I layed in bed until the evening because of my chronical pain and then went to a friend playing XBox. Not exactly party up 😂
@savagesweetheart90
10 ай бұрын
Hey, fellow Office Superfan I do the SAME thing. Work, go home, make dinner, and watch The Office, I lost track of how many times I watched the entire series.
@illyriamarsss
10 ай бұрын
me with chronic pain from cerebral palsy watching buffy the vampire slayer
@irradiated_woman8016
10 ай бұрын
My favorite weekends are the ones where I only talk to my cats.
@courtneywitherspoon8584
10 ай бұрын
LITERALLY. it's Forensic Files and dateline for me. Couldn't be happier.
@aimeewalters4861
10 ай бұрын
I'm a homemaker and a feminist. I've never felt shamed or judged from my lefty friends.
@jenelle5331
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've never met someone that claimed feminists judge them for being a sahm or homemaker that didn't turn out to have other shitty beliefs. Or at minimum thought the way they live is what all women should be doing.
@P4Stalot
3 ай бұрын
Ok... I have! but I'm starting to realize they really didn't understand the Idea of actual choice, which is ironically very not feminist of them
@jostockton.
2 ай бұрын
I mean, I have. Usually radfems. But I understand it's a loud minority and nowhere as big an issue as the patriarchy.
@anamorph8521
10 ай бұрын
It’s so elitist to say all women should be stay at home moms. My mom would have loved to stay home, but my dad left and my mom had to work at a car factory. If she stayed home, we would have lost our home and people like Abby would call her a welfare queen.
@rain2646
10 ай бұрын
abbey is like the drama student to sing in class when no one asked
@phoenixfritzinger9185
10 ай бұрын
Can someone please tell her that there are singing techniques out there that are not vibrato
@KS-vf3ru
10 ай бұрын
@@phoenixfritzinger9185she claims to be professionally trained in “opera” 💀 maybe she should keep practicing
@annjepsen1621
10 ай бұрын
@@KS-vf3ru She is and as much as I loathe her as a person, but she's actually a good vocalist (opera in particular).
@meehee5215
10 ай бұрын
Yes😂
@Sbunch363
10 ай бұрын
I had a friend refer to her as "Rachel Berry after Glee"
@girlonamission1685
10 ай бұрын
The hilarity that these women wouldn’t have KZitem channels if it wasn’t for feminism.
@high-bi-password
10 ай бұрын
RIGHT
@cheerpoasting
10 ай бұрын
What are you talking about?
@alinavint3580
10 ай бұрын
Lmaooo yes exactly :))))
@brittneybrisbin744
10 ай бұрын
@@cheerpoastingIf it wasn't for feminism, these women would not be able to freely discuss their opinions, let alone make a career out of it.
@lilywong9672
10 ай бұрын
@@cheerpoasting Are you that dumb?
@amydearing9866
10 ай бұрын
Growing up and watching my mom's 4 marriages fail, I learned that you never, ever trust your financial stability and your mental stability to a man.
@sarahalgar6916
10 ай бұрын
Classically Abby is a walking identity crisis, but trying to make that everyone else's problem. Get classic therapy.
@maggiekarabel123
10 ай бұрын
I have never been shamed for being a SAHM by ANYONE, let alone working moms.
@KellyDVance
10 ай бұрын
Two of my dearest friends (and my daughter's godmother) are SAHMs. Well, one of them still is. The other's youngest is a junior in high school, so got a part-time job at a fabric shop to feed her quilting habit. I supported both of them in their choice. Way more often I get called a part-time mom because I have a full-time job by women that have bought into the patriarchy's line about women.
@someonerandom256
10 ай бұрын
I've seen it a lot in comment sections, and also vice versa. For some reason a lot of women really get off on shaming other women who aren't exactly like they are.
@Angel-ts8rc
10 ай бұрын
If anything the “shaming” is misplaced or poorly worded questions or discussion about the mom needing to have financial independence and protection that being a full time stay at home mom does not provide. Work, while maybe not everyone’s desire, gives women independence, safety and more life outside of motherhood. All moms know that being a mom is work. Unless someone is literally saying “being a sahm makes you an awful stupid b**ch”… I don’t there’s a whole lot of shaming. These woman may be feeling unfulfilled or unsure about being a stay at home mom and taking those questions and discussions as shame. In America they are also in the minority so there may be some “us against them” mentality. Makes me think of the tv show Big little lies.
@PacificMidwest
10 ай бұрын
The only negative comments I've received as a sahm is from men. The "oh MUST BE NICE TO STAY AT HOME" comments lol
@VirginiaGeorge
10 ай бұрын
@@KellyDVanceI’m sorry people talk to you like that.
@bananewane1402
9 ай бұрын
“Mindful of what men find attractive” Men aren’t a monolith. Live authentically and you will attract someone who genuinely likes you as a person.
@j.kaimori3848
9 ай бұрын
Love this comment. Everyone has their own taste. Find those that you jive with.
@alim.9801
8 ай бұрын
True that dude
@kvetcherkit
10 ай бұрын
In a sense I feel bad for Abby. You can see a glimpse of an actual personality when she starts talking about DMing. It's something you can tell she genuinely finds fun and engaging. She could have a fulfilling time writing her own campaigns or stories but she is in a prison of her own making because of these ideologies and standards she follows. She is filled with a lot of bitterness at those finding fulfillment because like you said, she isn't fulfilled. Idk I just feel pity for people like that who are miserable because they actively work at being miserable.
@samthomas9404
9 ай бұрын
I've always wondered if she's just playing a character most of the time and is relatively normal in real life
@vanessam3195
10 ай бұрын
Exceedingly terrifying to think of EVERYone having to be a mother.
@angelsnaiilz
10 ай бұрын
for real. what the hell. 😭😭😭
@candaceewell9582
9 ай бұрын
I adopted my nephew and neither one of his parents should’ve been allowed to! Even his psychiatrist said if you let them even visit him I will call CPS on you! I have so many examples of people who should not be parents!! Too many!
@simsamsammie
9 ай бұрын
Literally Handmaid's Tale what the hell
@Ouisija
10 ай бұрын
This idea that our culture 'rewards' masculine women and feminine men is I think rooted in the simple fact that they are allowed to exist without as much danger, abuse, sanction, etc. Tradwives and their ilk see people just being themselves in public without censure, and this is interpreted as 'rewarding' people for defying traditional gender roles.
@shanereynolds8651
9 ай бұрын
Kind of interesting that she pointed this out though. Made me understand they hate us because they think we're better than them. Midwest is like "Well EYE had to follow the rules and you don't and still get to do whatever you want, what the fuck, why isn't it me??? I was so good...I did everything right..."
@ThatRedhedd
2 ай бұрын
Totally! I'm reminded of the quote, "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression."
@jbeta4948
10 ай бұрын
Mrs. Midwest says 9-5 job was so stressful and she couldn't keep up with her home, that having dirt and clutter is not lady like. That's such a privileged thing to say, because hustling is what most of us have to do to take care of ourselves and our families, and we might not love having a dusty house, but we are able to pay the mortgage or rent because of our hustle.
@ellis9582
10 ай бұрын
Abby just pretending that sex outside of marriage & porn hasnt been existing for hundreds of years absolutely SENDS me lmao
@Genderanarchy
10 ай бұрын
Hundreds if not thousands, or literally since the invention of marriage/scandalous media/etc… if there was a way something could be taboo humans were seeking it out
@apathybronson
10 ай бұрын
As if sex isn't eons older than any type of marriage
@juliestrickland7754
10 ай бұрын
They found porn in Pompeii when they excavated it. So, it's been here for a minute.
@eeeccc3562
10 ай бұрын
Evil has existed since society was formed, no one is denying that. It s about calling it for what it is, wrong is wrong and right is right.
@apathybronson
10 ай бұрын
@@eeeccc3562 yep and shaming people for having consensual, safer sex is wrong.
@ChromeDrone.
10 ай бұрын
Caitlin: *shames women with career success and aspirations*; also Caitlin: sO fRuStRaTiNg how women don't support other women and shame their aspirations to find husbands
@elvisbeeblebrox
10 ай бұрын
Mrs. Midwest came so close to the point. Even said it out loud: “I encourage you to listen to the life experience of others.” DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF?!!!!
@taxfrauddotcom
10 ай бұрын
It's classic DARVO. Accuse others of that which you perpetuate
@liryns
10 ай бұрын
“Men experience all these negative things” but Becky, who made all of those things an institution? Not women…
@elleofhearts8471
10 ай бұрын
don't worry, internalized mysoginy will find an answer.
@Salululations
10 ай бұрын
Men are not cupable or responsible for the actions of men of the past.
@Just-in-Spenc
10 ай бұрын
@@elleofhearts8471spisss spiss. I am internalized misogyny and I can say it’s definitely women’s fault for all the problems of the world. Don’t look 👀 any further. 🔪. (This is direct sarcasm btw). 😂
@elizabethjahr173
10 ай бұрын
The men having sex before marriage was literally the most wild part of anything Abby has said IMHO. As if there hasn't been prostitution and out of wedlock pregnancies since the dawn of time. As if people haven't been trying to prevent and terminate pregnancies since the dawn of time....
@CandyLover556
10 ай бұрын
i see that abby is using her brothers tactic of "if i tell these things fast enough and with enough words then they won't be able to tell im making this shit up as i go"
@darkstarr984
10 ай бұрын
It makes me think they learned it from their families.
@francisnopantses1108
10 ай бұрын
Gish Gallop
@getoutthere-vs9bu
10 ай бұрын
I have 3 kiddos and it is supremely disgusting to insinuate that kids are the *only* source of self fulfillment or purpose in a person's life to the degree that its a 'requirement'. To put that kind of ideological pressure onto a child is the peak of selfishness. Children are their own autonomous humans and they are not obligated to be the source of your own selfish personal fulfillment. What a huge load of garbage.
@spa-peggymeatballs4861
10 ай бұрын
Thank you! When I heard that I thought.. that’s a recipe for disaster for the child. No child should be responsible for fulfilling their parent’s lives. Absolutely freaking not. How sad.
@alim.9801
8 ай бұрын
This comment is fantastic and I agree!!
@misseskimo1
8 ай бұрын
This is so true and it just shows how damaged these people were by their own upbringing that they're looking for unconditional love from their children instead of wanting to give it to their children. You don't have children so someone will love you, you have children when you have love to give, your kids owe you nothing.
@prudentreality
8 ай бұрын
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS!!!! So many in my mom’s generation put their ENTIRE identity in being ‘mom’. The co-dependency and enmeshment so many of us grew up with has been DIFFICULT to shed. Then once we all grew up? We saw our mothers struggle to find their identity, and we all struggled to build healthy relationships with actual boundaries or without being terrified of “letting everyone down” (nm it’s impossible to make everyone happy, ever.) It’s a beautiful thing to be a mother; it’s an incredible privilege I have to be my child’s mama. It’s indescribable, really. But EVERYONE loses when a mom finds her ENTIRE identity in being a mom. We are SOOOOOO much more than that, and our kids deserve to be parented by someone who is a reasonably whole human being. Imo, kids are worth the hard work of facing our shit and growing the fuck up and becoming full human beings so we can actually guide them into becoming a full human being themselves!!!!
@jahbloomie
10 ай бұрын
Abby: Representing classism by calling it classic. Score for team Redpill.
@ellaisboring
9 ай бұрын
Classic..ism
@FabricofTime
10 ай бұрын
"We know that pregnancy is linked to sex." SO IS CHLAMYDIA, ABBY!
@yerabbit
10 ай бұрын
LOL
@umamipudding
10 ай бұрын
I, for one, am shocked 🤧
@catboymikey
10 ай бұрын
LMAOO the way I laughed so hard at this
@antheathetiefling8581
10 ай бұрын
" Don't have sex. You will get Chlamydia and die"
@CaitFalconer
9 ай бұрын
When she was talking about pregnancy being the worst outcome I was like “Have you not heard of AIDS???”
@andreagallegos3120
10 ай бұрын
I think that's very fascinating that she mentioned feeling insecure and not quite fulfilled but blaming it on feminism. In the 50s or 60s there were books and stories coming out about homemakers feeling unfulfilled the same way. What's her rebuttal for why they could have felt that way back then?
@justkiddin84
10 ай бұрын
Because the women were bad women. That’s her idea.
@evasartorius9528
10 ай бұрын
One thing I remember from way back then was the number of wives that were waiting for their husbands to come home with the grocery money. The sexual revolution wasn't a rebellion by these women it was a failure of their men to at least make sure their families were well fed. All these people that yearn for the good old days weren't actually there. I remember one woman with 8 kids wanting to be put on birth control - she had to have a note from her husband.
@Angel-ts8rc
10 ай бұрын
Her rebuttal would have been god, submission and sacrifice. These are the things unfulfilled trad wives have been telling their fellow, but less delusional, unfulfilled trad wives for centuries.
@Yrie27
10 ай бұрын
Yes! That's why The Feminine Mystique was written in the first place!
@adriennemiller5200
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, they have this concept that if people didn't know alternatives to their lifestyle they would be happy where they currently are. Based on my background I think this comes from religion, but I could be wrong. They want an all knowing being to give them easy answers. They want someone else to tell them who they are and what they should do. But then when they don't mesh with those answers there is either something wrong with them or something else that's the problem because the problem couldn't possibly be the "message from God".
@bellsthesultana
10 ай бұрын
49:21 girl im literally disabled and infertile, my uterus is here just for show, it's as useful as a house plant, so i agree that motherhood isn't a choice for me thanks for reminding me Abby!
@MaidMirawyn
8 ай бұрын
Also infertile, then early menopause. Apparently we are only worthy as long as we agree we have been totally unable to fulfill our most important and rewarding role. Forget that. You are absolutely worthy, because you are a living, breathing, human being. And so am I. Hugs and love from another woman who gets it.
@Alba-pc6bz
7 ай бұрын
And scoop : you re still worthy.
@tonichan89
10 ай бұрын
It's as if they've never heard of Elle Woods, who is HYPER feminine and also a feminist icon 🤯
@TEO.187
10 ай бұрын
They don't actually like hyper femininity either, like how she painted over the Kincaid painting, this genre of regression hates fun and pink and only likes beige and "natural"
@Just-in-Spenc
10 ай бұрын
@@TEO.187your right they don’t like hyper femininity cause they always critique women for not being the right kind of feminine to men’s tastes.
@apathybronson
10 ай бұрын
The problem is she's hyper feminine for herself. Because she likes it. Their whole deal is being pleasing to men, no matter if that makes women happy or not.
@high-bi-password
10 ай бұрын
@TEO.187 The kind of white people who can’t even stand flavor or seasoning in their home decor.
@emilyhuffman7815
10 ай бұрын
@TEO.187 you're right...they only want sad beige women
@laurenconrad1799
10 ай бұрын
Mrs. Midwest: Remember that you don't have to explain your lifestyle to anybody. And remember that while I'm explaining my lifestyle to the entire internet in my twenty-thousandth lifestyle explainer video.
@erinsymone1645
10 ай бұрын
Her "men are NOT trash" video also drove me up the wall. All this energy for men, and yet she completely overlooks rampant misogyny in the culture and especially in "traditional" culture. It was mind-boggling to watch her insist that everyone else had the narrow world view lol.
@shannonjkeever477
10 ай бұрын
I'm a SAHM who left my well-paying career to homeschool my children and I have NEVER had a feminist shame me for doing so.
@rba4377
10 ай бұрын
As a young adult that got too sick to work so relies on my partner to financially provide I do have to say I get shamed and questioned a lot despite people knowing the health reasons. Like I have no value if I don’t bring in income
@Aster_Risk
10 ай бұрын
@@rba4377But that shaming isn't occurring because of feminism. The shaming is ableist and classist.
@mayanaw.9027
10 ай бұрын
@@rba4377 That's probably because people hate people with disabilities (also have a sickness that at times prevents me from working). I'd probably get less comments if I just told people I'm a stay at home mom ha
@muckpuppy
10 ай бұрын
i might have to do this in the future but people shame us for having to consider and make that choice because we are disabled....it's not feminism, it's ableism. : (@@rba4377
@EmilyInALoop
10 ай бұрын
I’ve had a girl I work with laugh in my face when I told her I didn’t want to move up at work because I plan on having kids in the near future and don’t plan on working once I do.
@laurship3330
10 ай бұрын
Abigail Shapiro talks about sex and the ‘dating market’ in a way that a third grader would describe highschool social dynamics
@apathybronson
10 ай бұрын
Tbf that's probably about the same amount of experience.
@oliviawitte3621
10 ай бұрын
Warhammer and dnd is definitley not classically feminine lol but the fact that Abby is into that stuff is prob the most interesting thing about her.
@MaidMirawyn
8 ай бұрын
Honestly, it’s probably a huge escape for her. She gets to be in control and explore other ways of being. And roleplaying is an excellent way to explore that. But I doubt she can be honest about it to herself. At least she has RPGs as a safety valve.
@Rossoneri2
Ай бұрын
16:59 I'm coming at this from a perspective of a guy to hopefully put in perspective how dumb this is. There's plenty of us out there who found a girl attractive when we we're young and pretended to be different people for their attention. You can call it being a "pick me" or what it really is (being desperate) The change isn't genuine and that facade doesn't last forever.
@clairel3833
10 ай бұрын
When I was in the depths of my abusive relationship, I fell into the Mrs. Midwest trap. I began believing that if I could just be happier in the role of a housewife, I could fix my relationship and he would stop being abusive. Her content puts the onus on women to fix any problems that arise, even when the problems stem from someone or something else. It took a long time for me to unpack that I couldn't "solve" my ex's abuse problem - he was an abuser.
@marilynscott-waters7786
10 ай бұрын
My sixties something parents' message was, "You have to go college and have a career. 'What if something happens to your husband? You'll need to be able to take care of you and your children.'" I thought that it was silly at the time, but now makes more sense. Plan for the future, people.
@irradiated_woman8016
10 ай бұрын
This. Being dependant on another person is _dangerous,_ no matter how you slice it.
@kadams3029
10 ай бұрын
Yep. I suspect all the women pushing this tradwife stuff on social media don't actually depend on their husbands because they make their own money online and/or have rich parents to fall back on. Our mothers and grandmothers learned the hard way that you can't depend on someone else to take care of you. If conservatives want more SAHMs, they should support higher wages for working people and government programs to help parents, so one parent can afford to stay home (whether or not they have a partner).
@GoodVolition
10 ай бұрын
Good thing Abby mentioned that sex is linked to pregnancy. The kids who go to the school her husband is suing probably aren't going to have anyone to tell them that.
@ThatRedhedd
2 ай бұрын
Wait, what? I don't know their full names - how can I look that up? Lol
@theasmith1126
10 ай бұрын
As an evil feminist career gal, I will say that Mrs Midwest has a point about women being praised for masculinity in the corporate world. Masculine traits are associated with leadership, which means more feminine women get overlooked. We need to start recognising that leadership doesn't have a type, and a person's unchangeable characteristics do not predict leadership ability.
@Nesi-Rose
10 ай бұрын
Yep, they take something that has a grain of truth to make all their bullshit go down easier.
@faristasairuv5143
9 ай бұрын
I definitely agree.
@Evaisgalaxy
9 ай бұрын
I love how you put it-As an evil feminist career girl😂. Us sister us😂
@nuclearwessels2078
9 ай бұрын
Thanks! I have run in to this a lot where if I act "feminine," I don't get to move forward. Even in the social sphere. Makes it hard to be a multi-faceted woman when we have so many expectations.
@moxxibekk
9 ай бұрын
Yes!
@floral-smoke
10 ай бұрын
I wholeheartedly believe Abby wants to force motherhood on everyone because she's miserable and misery loves company. No other reason to literally say it's not a choice. It IS, too bad you didn't feel like you could make it for yourself, or regret it now.
@bibianaguadalupeislasherre9880
10 ай бұрын
Abby probably has a disdain for child free people and those who can't have or are struggling to conceive.
@Angel-ts8rc
10 ай бұрын
This isn’t a theory this is true! Atleast for generations of women who are forced to or uninformed led to become mothers and there views on women who did not. At then end of the day though I will feel bad for any woman who became a mother and was not fully ready or informed and or became miserable in motherhood, often lacking support as she is ultimately a victim of patriarchy. Her ceding misogynistic to other women in her misery is just the cherry on top our devastating patriarchal world.
@krgxo
10 ай бұрын
I really do want children/a family but I cannot imagine pushing what I want onto other women. Some women do not want children, or simply would not make good mothers (and that’s okay if you can acknowledge that!) and to suggest they should still have them or that is shouldn’t be a choice is incredibly dangerous and puts women and children at risk of poor mental health and neglect.
@bunnydreamcast9223
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree.
@autumnmoonfire3944
10 ай бұрын
Her views also make it harder o carve out a middle road for people who want to be parents and have a career. It’s not one or the other, it can be both, but when you step out of a career track it can be unreasonably difficult to get back on track. I want to dopeslap the people who use the word “overqualified” for people who want to get back in the game several steps below where they left. They won’t skip out on you unless you’re a sucky employer. It should be normal to both stay home with young children and plan on getting back to work later.
@Juciwaters
10 ай бұрын
It’s interesting how Abby is unhappy and unfulfilled and the problem is everyone else. Got it
@MultiGreatscott
10 ай бұрын
I'm a SAHM who decided to take a short break in my career to take care of my daughter and I am also a feminist who believes that feminism is about equal rights for everyone and about focusing on all issues including men's issues. I have never had any other woman shame me for my choice, in fact many women have been envious that I have the privilege to raise my daughter full time (and it is a huge privilege not many people are lucky enough to have). Interestingly enough my SIL who had a baby around the same time as me and will be transitioning back to working full time at the end of the year was shamed by another woman who had chosen to be a SAHM who told her that any woman who "chooses to let a daycare raise her kids" is a bad mom.
@Angel-ts8rc
10 ай бұрын
I’ve seen so much of that weird daycare shaming going around lately. It’s scary especially in America where childcare is expensive and comfortably being a stay at home parent is difficult!
@BloodWired
10 ай бұрын
I think people shaming moms for daycare are idiots. Most people need to work full time and daycares are a necessity. Daycares are generally not ideal for children however. There’s rarely enough attention to go around and most workers are overworked, unqualified and underpaid. It’s a sad necessity for many however.
@tonichan89
10 ай бұрын
@@BloodWiredEh, I've got to disagree. Those circumstances you discribe has very much to do with where you live, not daycare as an overall concept. I was thrilled to go to daycare as a kid; the first time I arrived, it was like I had found out where all the other kids were and I RAN to go play with them immediately. I met a childhood friend there at 2 years old that brought so much value to my upbringing, too. I've not met anyone in my life where I live that have mentioned daycare as a negative experience for them as a kid. Kids get to go on trips, play with a steady recurring crew of kids every day, discover who they are separately from their parent figure... it's like they get to go out and safelt discover the world outside of the home environment. Of course, if you live somewhere where resources are poor and too many kids are put in the care of too few daycarers, it's not gonna go well. At 4, my daycare "merged" with another daycare and my perfectly pleasant experience was turned on its head instantly, cus suddenly there were twice as many kids sharing that space, and new daycarers I didn't know having authority over me. So what did we do? Found a different daycare... and things were peachy keen again. But I did get to see what a difference there is when there are too many children in one daycare department, and that I would agree is not good for anyone. But again, these are circumstances of where you are, nlt daycare as a concept. Just like school. If you live in an are where schools are underfunded and there are too many kids and not enough teachers or resources, school is gonna be a BAD experience.
@francisnopantses1108
10 ай бұрын
@tonichan89 both can be true. A lot of daycares are shady and kids get sick there all the time. At the same time kids desperately need socialization at that age with their peers. I also loved preschool despite crying like I was being abandoned forever in the morning. I think a lot of wealthier parents isolate their kids terribly and then are shocked when they have bad mental health issues and problems coping later in life.
@MultiGreatscott
10 ай бұрын
@@francisnopantses1108 I think kids definitely need socialization, but daycare isn't the end all be all. Libraries are usually a gold mine when it comes to free children's activities like music classes, story time, play groups etc.
@lambs5258
10 ай бұрын
48:28 "You could take on this massive burden and massive responsibility of another person's life, OR, you could just continue to live for yourself, and travel, and party it up" Wow, she really knows how to sell motherhood as a great and appealing and not-at-all awful thing LMAO
@missloretta
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm a mom and it's almost like she hasn't clarified for herself why she chose it. (Probably for her image/ego) I feel like the benefits are actually really hard to conceptualize to someone who doesn't have kids because it's like explaining your belief in God or something. It's like I have no words but I have these really big feelings and it feels like the most important thing I've ever done and it's awesome even when it's really hard. 🤷 It's amazing. Its changed me totally. If I only had 24 hours left on this earth I wouldn't spend it partying or whatever I would just want to be with my kids and watching how cute and sweet and precious they are and the funny things they do and say. 🥰 They (and my husband) make my heart so full.
@hannahj8990
9 ай бұрын
ikr like you can just tell deep down she's jealous
@ashleycook6025
7 ай бұрын
She sounds like she's trying to convince HERSELF. She sounds legit angry with HERSELF...She sounds so sad... its heartbreaking.
@doIIsparts
2 ай бұрын
LMAOOOO i thought that the sentence that you cited was an exaggerated paraphrase of what she said but this is actually what she said word for word 😭 i'm speechless
@jostockton.
2 ай бұрын
I don't like her but partying nonstop sounds like a nightmare 😂 no thanks
@LadyLunch
10 ай бұрын
On the point of how they continuously claim that masculinity in women and femininity in men is rewarded by society when it obviously isn't; this framework is useful to them because it sets up traditional femininity as something rebellious and exciting when it really truly is just conformity at an extreme level
@francisnopantses1108
10 ай бұрын
They use it as a rhetorical diversion when they get blowback for saying offensive things. "I'm being attacked for being demure and feminine again" no you're not, you're getting attacked for shaming infertile people, poormouthing rape victims, and calling for discrimination against gay people.
@disembodied1273
10 ай бұрын
Fr as a butch lesbian I'm still waiting to receive my check in the mail since apparently we're getting rewarded for gender non-conformity 😂
@naryainc
10 ай бұрын
I guess you could argue that men have been winning lots of women of the year awards lately. In that sense, fem or masc is only cool if it's gender bent.
@elleofhearts8471
10 ай бұрын
its crazy to witness how publicly they're trying to convince others that freedom is found inside a cage and that having less choices is preferable to personal freedom. theyre really trying to convince the public that freedom is rigidity and rigidity is freedom.
@meemurthelemur4811
10 ай бұрын
@@disembodied1273it's interesting how she thinks that you being allowed to simply exist and be who you are is some how being rewarded when she also feels that she deserves a trophy for simply existing and pretending to battle non existant prejudices.
@blancacrum2873
10 ай бұрын
Classily Abby seems like she makes these videos for herself to convince herself that her life is fulfilling
@indigopines
10 ай бұрын
They almost all kind of seem that way, don't they...
@kikiTHEalien
10 ай бұрын
@Fundie Fridays Here are 2 supposed feminists who are shaming another woman for wanting to be a wife and a sahm.
@개굴-u3v
10 ай бұрын
I had a very short period of time after my first child was born where I followed tradwives and was SO into the content, and that’s exactly what I was doing at the time. I was grasping at straws for ‘purpose’ in a time my mental health was at its worst.
@Just-in-Spenc
10 ай бұрын
@@kikiTHEalienlol 😂 your so funny 🤣 🤡
@Just-in-Spenc
10 ай бұрын
@@kikiTHEalienfeminism is when= you can’t never say anything bad about another women or her choices to spread bullshit. I think you might be confused but that’s not feminism 😝
@Agathe35560
10 ай бұрын
Hello Jen, I'm responding to you about the "birth control is causing abortion" part of Classically Aby. First, I would like to say that I'm a French midwife, so prescribing birth control is part of my job, and soon I will be able to perform medical abortions at work as well. So I am NOT into the pro-life movement at all. But what Aby says is partially true : if pills with estrogens and progestogen block the ovulation from happening, contraceptives with only progestogen (pills with Desogestrel, implant, IUD) often work without blocking the ovulation. Instead, they create an hostile environment by not letting sperm cells go through cervical mucus and limiting or totally blocking the endometrium from developping, and therefore preventing implantation. But the part which I think is not correct is calling that "abortion", because to get pregnant means a fecondation and the implantation of the embryo. Having a fertilised egg is not a pregnancy. And about the copper IUD, fun fact is that the cytotoxicity of copper toward sperm cells is more effective on preventing fecondation, even if every conservative believe it's almost as having repetitive abortions (+ cytotoxicity of copper toward the embryo and inflammation of endometrium which prevent implantation). That's it, I wanted to add some facts I know from my studies / work, but keep making cool and interesting videos to let me learn about american fundies, they seem quite exotic from my french perspective ^^
@ibelieveinyouyourmagicisreal
9 ай бұрын
exctly. science.
@OMundoDeAnna
9 ай бұрын
Thank you, I was looking for this comment
@countvronsky3328
9 ай бұрын
Thank you for addressing this!! I made a comment on this too, and was scrolling to see if any medical professionals weighed in - I was so flabbergasted in the video when this was dismissed as incorrect.
@socheeb
9 ай бұрын
@@countvronsky3328 because it technically is incorrect. i do medlab and am now heading to work at a obgyn clinic next month. birth control is Not abortion it is not taken for any abortion needs and for this abby to say that is incorrect. it should be dismissed as incorrect because it is. you cannot assign a name that has a strong medical meaning to the how/function of birth control. how it prevents pregnancies doesnt equal an abortion.
@MissCaraMint
8 ай бұрын
The thing is that what these people mean “by birth control causes abortion” is that after you stop taking it and are ready to have children then you will be more likely to miscarry. Which is false. They are basically saying that if you have a miscarriage then it is your fault because you used birth control earlier and they are using the term abortion because they want to make it sound like a deliberate act and not a traumatic experience for the women who experience them. It’s all a shaming tactic. So yeah that’s the context.
@Pajali
10 ай бұрын
Does Abby know that people had premarital sex before birth control existed? My grandparents were Mennonites (no joke), and they were absolutely active before they got married despite their uber-conservative upbringing and surrounding culture.
@kellyburds2991
10 ай бұрын
Heck, premarital sex that resulted in accidental pregnancy is what caused a significant number of marriages pre birth control.
@Mama_Bear524
10 ай бұрын
Yes to you both. Hence: shotgun wedding.
@emmaseif6789
10 ай бұрын
Both sets of my grandparents got married because they got pregnant while dating in the 50s/early 60s. One couple had a pretty happy rest of their lives together. The other made each other f***ing miserable for 55 years and the stories my grandma is telling now that grandpa died are enough to make me cry. Had to get married, couldn't divorce, hated each other and didn't know how else to live
@lady8jane
10 ай бұрын
And let's not forget that BIRTH CONTROL has existed since ancient times. Just one example: The ancient Greeks and Romans used the contraceptive herb silphium so much that it went extinct!!!
@audieh
10 ай бұрын
Fun fact: before the marriage act of 1753 in the UK, premarital sex was normal. It was assumed that after the engagement the couple would become sexually active. That’s why it was so scandalous if a couple broke it off. Many brides would be pregnant at their weddings until the mid 1700s. Shakespeare’s wife, Anne Hathaway was pregnant when they got married in 1582. In the US, about 40% of brides were pregnant before their weddings in the late 1700s.
@Rosy.Cusson
10 ай бұрын
I'm currently a stay at home mom. I bake all of our sandwich bread, keep the house clean in a way Mrs. Midwest would probably approve of, and I watched this video while tending to my toddler and knitting a sweater for my husband. And oh my nonbinary God, these women are so far up their own asses they can't see daylight. The vast majority of people, feminist or not, are not judging us for making the choice to stay home with kids. Sure, there are some people who judge here and there, but true feminists absolutely do not shame me for my lifestyle. And from the perspective of a mother with one kid, and another on the way (just like Abby), yes, having children should be a choice! I love my little one, and I'm super excited for the next one, but that doesn't mean that everyone needs to have kids. In fact, since becoming a parent, I'm more pro-choice than ever. Kids should be wanted, and parenthood shouldn't be forced. If she had it her way, there would SO many unhappy families. Thank you for covering them, and pointing out how problematic this shit is.
@coffee8599
10 ай бұрын
I'm a stay at home mom, too! It is what I want to do, but if someone doesn't... who cares! Do whatever makes you happy. I'm married, pregnant, and mom to a 4 year old, and I even felt attacked and threatened by her aggression. She is SO toxic and hateful.
@Toywins
10 ай бұрын
I've been a stay at home mom for twenty four years, and you are 100% spot on!! Thank you.
@emilyhuffman7815
10 ай бұрын
As a mother of 2, I wouldn't wish parenthood on ANYONE who doesn't want it! It's really fucking hard and forced parenthood would cause suffering for all involved.
@nizzie16
10 ай бұрын
Crazy how one can be happy with his or her chosen lifestyle and still support those who want to go another way. Thanks for being wholesome human beings and enjoy your families! ❤
@heidi3963
10 ай бұрын
Perfectly said! ❤ I'm a mother, formerly SAHM, and I am ALSO a feminist. I believe in a feminism that embraces all women, trans and cis, parents or not, married or single.
@RomeroRomeral
10 ай бұрын
Abby literally wants to live in the Handmaid's Tale universe.
@michelleh.5225
9 ай бұрын
They actually don't. They know we will never get to that point because of the hard, back-breaking, exhausting work of feminists. They are so grateful for the benefits that feminism has granted them, yet they pretend they don't so they can appeal themselves to men. I have no respect for these people.
@MaidMirawyn
8 ай бұрын
It’s a given SHE is a Commander’s fertile and treasured wife so he doesn’t need a Handmaid. Obviously she is far too classic to fulfill any lesser role.
@sorrelbee113
10 ай бұрын
"motherhood isn't a choice" honey I got myself spayed 😂
@emma-511
10 ай бұрын
😂
@superbowl2298
10 ай бұрын
Ayyee, fellow woman who got fixed here, too! 😂
@elektra121
10 ай бұрын
It's great that people who want to stay childfree nowadays have the option to do so. It's less great that people who desperately want to have kids can't all choose to do so with the same ease. No, sadly, it is not a choice. Motherhood can be both not wanted and wanted. Relatively easy to choose to not want it, in not so few cases no less than impossible to "choose" it when you want it. So, she's not wrong, albeit for completely different reasons than she thinks.
@superbowl2298
10 ай бұрын
@@elektra121 Having biological kids isn't the only way to be a mother. There's fostering and adoption.
@amcmenaminnemetz711
10 ай бұрын
Anything you do in life aside from die is a choice.
@Akursedtime
10 ай бұрын
Abby and Mrs. Midwest stalwartly believe it is a woman's duty to get married and have children. Yet, never think about whether they are FIT to be a mother. Women with mental health issues and do not want children, aka me and countless others would never wish to carry trauma or generational trauma to our children. What we are doing is protecting the possibility of hurting or worst, harming them. My nieces and nephews are my world, my friends' children are precious and I love them as the cool auntie who buys them gifts for birthdays and Christmases and gives them plenty of hugs. And it makes me proud to know my cousins and my friends can provide the love they need. Not everybody can be a mother due to not only fertility issues and that's okay.
@kellyburds2991
10 ай бұрын
As far as they are concerned, disabilities don't exist. And that's the most charitable interpretation. Because the other two are a) they think someone who is non-verbal and can't use the toilet unassisted should be "married" (it's not marriage when one of the parties isn't capable of consent) and popping out babies, or b) Abby has something in common with a certain German dude with a stupid mustache. We already know Mrs. Midwest does.
@donicaharris6163
10 ай бұрын
Amen! What would Abby do with herself if she couldn't have children? Would adoption be enough for her?
@AppleStrawberryLove
10 ай бұрын
This. I do not want to get married or have kids because of my father and the physical and emotional abuse he inflicted on me.
@kathleenwoods8416
10 ай бұрын
Well, your not supposed to have those issues. In the first place acknowledging that people can have real problems without an easy churchy solution kind of undermines the entire worldview doesn't it? that people who aren't like you are doing on purpose, and they should live in punishment for that, unless of course, its a particular 'excluded person' in your live and not just anyone with those issues.
@elleofhearts8471
10 ай бұрын
Its like the infinite growth of capitolism. its not sustainable or preferable in every situation and critical thought shuts down when it competes with dogma and ideology.
@geenemarie2690
9 ай бұрын
I made the mistake of marrying into a fundamentalist right wing family. I was a single mom with a toddler...and prior to marriage i raised my kid alone and was in college full time and worked 2 jobs. After the wedding my MIL insisted that I stop working and going to school and be a SAHM. I met halfway and stopped going to work...but continued with college, which resulted in my kid going to daycare. My MIL insulted me: saying I was selfish for having a "stranger" raise my kid while I went to college and said what I was doing was child abuse. She even raised her fears that the daycare lady could be a Muslim (so flipping what?!). So...I didn't buckle. I spent 2 years raising a baby alone and on food stamps (something else my MIL villified me for....WELFARE). I stood my ground and refused to drop out of college. 4 years later my husband unalived himself (thats another story...but considering how he was raised toxic religion this wasn't shock). And like I feared...back to being a single parent in poverty...but by then i was 2 semesters from graduating. Its now been 10 years....I'm a healthcare provider...my toddler is now 16 and she's wanting to go to college. I'm in a new and better (supportive) relationship with a newborn. I thank God everyday I didn't buckle under the abuse and manipulation of my fundie MIL.
@davidchess1985
10 ай бұрын
I think Abby's line of thought is: "Of course everyone thinks that there is exactly one acceptable role for everyone. So if you think it's acceptable for women to work outside the home, you must think it's not acceptable for them to be homemakers."
@msgen02
10 ай бұрын
That kinda reminds me of how babies think that anything that has left their field of vision just doesn’t exist anymore. Not sure if that comparison makes sense but that’s just what it makes me think of lol.
@Angel-ts8rc
10 ай бұрын
The stupidity is beyond me. But really it’s the mental gymnastics and run around you have to do for these ideologies.
@doperagu8471
10 ай бұрын
@@msgen02the term you're looking for is "object permanence." And yes, I agree. These types of people tend to lack object permanence.
@bojomoonlight
10 ай бұрын
she’s the queen of false dichotomies and hasty generalizations
@DimaRakesah
10 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a projection. "I believe in this single minded way of life so the liberals must also be the same but think the opposite"
@arozeisarozie
10 ай бұрын
You and James are absolute gems. I hope that you have something to look forward to on Fridays like we do. 😊 These videos are so much effort and it shows!
@lindseyhendrix2405
10 ай бұрын
What a kind message! I’ve never actually thought about what creators may look forward to on the days we all look forward to their upload. I’m sure there’s relief but I really hope they enjoy themselves too! So I second all of this:) I hope y’all have the best night doing whatever it is y’all want to do.
@belindarocky961
10 ай бұрын
@@lindseyhendrix2405my favorite thing ever is when I see my fav creators commenting on my other fav creators channels & find out they all like each other 🤗🤗
@nathanjasper512
10 ай бұрын
My issue with Mrs Midwest is it's easy to be a stay at home mom when you're obvously rich to start with. The thing thats threatening the stay at home mom arrangement isn't feminism it's the rising cost of living.
@eviozyra6300
10 ай бұрын
I dont think she or her husband are rich or their family.. That said they are not poor either. She said she is grateful to be able to stay at home and knows it's not possible for everyone.
@rebaeileen4371
9 ай бұрын
She’s not rich. Her husband is a police officer. Do you know how much they get paid?? Not much.
@mollyb8136
9 ай бұрын
@@rebaeileen4371 you even seen how much influencers make? She's also working
@uninvincibleete
10 ай бұрын
it's mind-boggling to watch her identify that we as a society conflate success and masculinity, but her takeaway isn't that we should break the arbitrary association of gender with those things, her takeaway is 'women should stop succeeding at boi stuff' lmao what
@Cayla2015
10 ай бұрын
I think I understand why Abby loves fantasy games. It's all about choice. She makes it sound like real life doesn't give her enough choices, so she needs to make choices in another world....
@Sarah-re7cg
10 ай бұрын
I thought the exact same thing 😂 it’s her form of escapism from her extremely unhappy life
@baby.yogurt
10 ай бұрын
wait u might be on to something here.....much to consider
@shaythoven8332
10 ай бұрын
I have insight on the "feminine men being rewarded" bit. What I believe Mrs. Midwest is getting at is specifically a thing in the celebrity sphere. For example, men have always been allowed to perform femininity in a music performance setting. Musicians like Harry Styles and Hozier are good modern examples, and hair and glam metal from the 80s are examples from a few decades ago. Of course they all experienced criticism and pushback for destroying masculinity (from conservatives) but they have been rewarded with huge financial and professional success. This DOES NOT TRANSLATE to everyday people though! She's absolutely wrong if she's insinuating that femininity in men is rewarded in a non-performance space! And it's pretty much the opposite for women. When she talks about women being rewarded for displaying masculine traits, she's kinda right in the sense that to succeed in business, women are often forced to suppress "feminine" traits and adopt "masculine" traits in order to be taken seriously. And likewise, this does not translate into the celebrity sphere, where hyper-femininity is still expected for female performers. I can't think of many "masculine" women that have experienced success in the same way as "feminine" men.
@CrowT87
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, LP (androgynous, cis lesbian) has a large global following but isn't fully mainstream on the level of Harry Styles, David Bowie, or any top 40 musician or even a lot of alternative/indie musicians. Even plenty of queer people I meet are unfamiliar with their music. The more common evolution is going from somewhat coded as tomboyish to hyperfeminine-- I can think of tons of examples of that from today (Billie Eilish) and 20 years ago (Nelly Furtado, Avril Lavigne), that trend hasn't gone away at all. Unless they're solidly indie/alternative (Tegan & Sarah, Bikini Kill), you basically won't have a *prominent* career as a female musician.
@sugarm1860
10 ай бұрын
I know nobody is going to read this, but I’d like to share my own family history, specifically the women of my family. When my ancestors on my mother side came to America, they ran an inn until it burned down. The wife did not just sit around and take care of the children- she helped to run the hotel. My nana- dad’s mom- was one of nine children. As far as I know, only one of the four daughters was a stay at home woman. The rest of them worked in various jobs up until their retirement. My Grammy on my mom’s side worked all her life in various roles, ranging from a secretary to retail work. She was even asked to be the poster girl from Yuengling beer due to her beauty, but she declined the offer. The point I’m trying to make is this- don’t fall for the whole tradwife trap. People like Mrs. Midwest and Abby will make it seem like women were always content housewives who were fine with their roles until feminism came along. That has not and never has been the case. Us women have worked hard to get to where we are today. You were not biologically put in a box to fit a specific gender role. You have the chance to choose what to do with your life.
@hikariluanGC
9 ай бұрын
These trad wives are specifically coming from privilege and mid to high classes families where money isn't a problem. They're very classists. They enjoy their nannies and house staff while pointing and shouting meaningless words to the crowd. In reality, even stay at home moms have to work to provide in lower classes and that's been all over human history. Also, they're not full stay at home moms at all. These trad wives have very successful careers in social media and make a lot of money out of that. They're working woman which is very paradoxical to their whole philosophy of women simply staying financially supported by their husbands. If they were real trad wives they wouldn't be even talking, their men would be talking and their men wouldn't allow them to have the careers they have.
@JANUARY396
9 ай бұрын
Precisely. My paternal grandmother worked almost her entire life (she's 87 now and retired only a few years ago). And she was the bread winner in her house, my grandfather, even though very respected in his field, could not match the salary she made as a dentist. And she was also from a very poor family so she never considered being a 'trad wife' as a viable or safe life choice to begin with. She was born in the 30's of the previous century so she would be making those choices in the 50's which are often glorified as golden era for stay at home mums and wives. On the other hand, my maternal grandmother came from a rich family (they were some minor nobility). Most of the family was brutally murdered in concentration camps and lost a lot of money and properties. My grandfather however had a really good job and was able to afford a great lifestyle that did not require my grandmother to work. I wouldn't call her a trad wife either because she hired a housekeeper to aid with the house work. She did live with a massive trauma of inhumane treatment she had endured for years in Auschwitz. However, I suppose she was partly ok with staying at home due to her rich background (even though a lot was lost) and the mindset associated with this i.e. generational wealth or good marriage means no work necessary on the women's part. So I think being a stay at home wife-mother wasn't an option for everyone even 50+ years ago. I'm not saying that it was such a great arrangement because the women were forced into it. I guess women from different backgrounds had to battle different battles and we may not be fully aware of those nuances. These days, especially in Western countries, being a trad wife seems like a privilege of sorts (unless again you're forced into it).
@dwdillydally
8 ай бұрын
Trad wife status is for rich people, historically and currently.
@westvirginiascoolestcanadian
10 ай бұрын
i’m a woman that is in college to enter a very male-dominated field (forestry). i mainly have outdoorsy interests that are considered historically masculine. i physically recoil at the very prospect of being forced into the subservient wife/girlfriend role whether willingly or unwillingly, and i have never had any interest in dating. however, there is absolutely nothing masculine about me and i feel feminine to my very core. i will never let anyone take that away from me just because i refuse to dumb myself down or let myself be pushed around.
@clouds-h5549
10 ай бұрын
so the end statement you called woman,girlfriends stupid ,"I refuse to dump myself down" if let say you hypothetically wanted to be a housewife if your husband discouraged you and put you down in your cool interests (which it actually is,I love it) then your in a toxic relationship point blank if anything you would 100% be able to find a man with your interests!
@missloretta
9 ай бұрын
Hell yeah. That's actually such a gross part of their message. In reality, there's so many ways to express being a woman. We are important and valid because we are, not because we fit someone's stupid stereotype.
@mirianakovachevic748
9 ай бұрын
Because you never had a chance. Men chose other girls over you.
@vintagearisen
10 ай бұрын
The transatlantic accents in the scentbird ad were fantastic, Love it. You're probably the only youtubers that I don't skip the ad reads for.
@GirlWithHeadphones18
10 ай бұрын
seeing that clip of abby describing how she felt unfulfilled as a mother is weirdly gut wrenching and deserved. like of course you’re going to feel unfulfilled if you make your entire world your kids, it’s not their burden to make up for other aspects of your life outside of them (your family life, your friendships, your hobbies, your marital life, your work life, your personal goals, etc). seeing her roll her eyes at the concept of how experiencing the world is not what women were put on this earth to do is so baffling to me because if anything i feel like experiencing the world is what would make you a better person and mother and what we, as humans, were literally meant to do. as a kid I always reveled in all the adventures and life stories adults would tell me, whether it be something grand like a trip to a different country or just what it was like to work a crazy day in the office. the most stifling and unhealthy was when adults expected me to make up for rough patches in their life, when they didn’t have any fulfillment outside of kids, and you could tell that they grew increasingly frustrated at you because you couldn’t fix or make up for that, no matter how well you behaved or how hard you tried. I seriously hope her kids are okay because they will probably see that vlog one day and hearing that you’re not enough for your parents has gotta sting
@Maglors_grief
10 ай бұрын
It's so odd that Abby realizes that she feels unfulfilled in her role as a mother, but refuses to acknowledge that maybe that's because women are more than their womb. She was likely taught that being an unhappy stay at home mom was just the life women had to deal with, and I find that sad. Sometimes I feel bad for her because some of these right-wing women are clearly just grifters who don't practice what they preach, but Abby was definitely raised with the belief that her only worth was to get married, have kids, and that's it. And now she is self admittedly unhappy and unfulfilled but I feel worse for her children because not only will they also be raised with these beliefs but will also notice one day that their mother is bitter over their existence.
@shouldbewritig
10 ай бұрын
It was a rare crack in the façade and for just a second, I felt a little sad. Abby I usually don’t put into the bucket of “being the oppressed and the oppressor” but it was a little moment giving that vibe. The “she’s so brainwashed” one. I feel worse for her kids by a long shot but I felt for her for a moment. Like she bought into the lie with her entire being then regretted it but didn’t want to fully admit it so instead she dug in her heels and doubled down.
@JohnathanFallSeasonGuy
10 ай бұрын
I’ve met women who’ve made their kids there whole world and identity, they’re miserable, they have no friends or hobbies outside of there family and kids, and the worst part is when the kids grow up and gain some independence, they’ve no idea how to live without their kids.
@Angel-ts8rc
10 ай бұрын
She has probably herself in motherhood as many women do but her beliefs make admitting this wrong or weak.
@brooke_reiverrose2949
10 ай бұрын
Highly relatable content ^
@katelindrum3022
10 ай бұрын
Found your channel through the Duggar explanations in summer 2020, grieving my husband who’d just died of cancer, and starting my senior year of college. I can’t thank y’all enough for the content, vibes, distraction, and parasocial friendship (lol) in all the years since ❤ you’re such a big part of my entry to adulthood, deconstruction, and processing the world! All the best to both of y’all ❤❤
@stacytompkins9274
10 ай бұрын
Wow, what a journey you have been on. Take good care through the highs and the lows, and be kind to yourself.
@Mama_Bear524
10 ай бұрын
Oh wow I’m so sorry for your loss that’s a tough road you’ve been on. I’m glad Jen has been able to help you. Wishing you all the very best
@sporemice
9 ай бұрын
i can't even lie, it's heartbreaking that abby is ashamed of her background in opera. she was clearly so passionate about it and loved to sing. to call it a "girlboss" background is so crazy to me too (not to say singing isn't badass, it's just something so innocuous to be ashamed of)!!
@andreajohnson1212
10 ай бұрын
The OG Classically Abby video was how I was introduced to you. The algorithm gods were shining on me that day. Love you, Jen and James!
@xandra4625
10 ай бұрын
Same! I kept getting her ads while driving and I couldn't skip them. So one day I looked in the similar vids and there was Jen!
@Pajali
10 ай бұрын
Can you imagine playing D&D with Classically Abby? She seems like the type to spend half the session arguing with the DM about the rules and how she should be allowed to reroll whenever she fails a skill check, and everyone else hopes the DM spawns a dragon to eat her ASAP.
@justkiddin84
10 ай бұрын
That’s why she is the DM who has to control the game.😂
@ChantalOfTheNorth
10 ай бұрын
And she would take over every NPC interaction, and yell at people during a puzzle encounter. UUUUGH
@KellyDVance
10 ай бұрын
I think she wouldn't survive half a session with my D&D group. Two men who are military vets, one is a nurse, the other a political scientist. One guy who did physical labor till it destroyed his back, leaving him on disability before 50. The final guy who wears nail polish and will let his nieces give him make overs. Than there are us two women, I work an office job and the other is an electrician on the management path at her work. She and I are both moms, the political scientist is a dad (we have the same kid 😊) and the nurse is a stepdad (not married to anyone in our group). It isn't that we'd go out of our way to make her unwelcome. I think her bigotry would cause her to feel that way all on its own.
@NyxyPixie
10 ай бұрын
My latest Pathfinder character is a cleric… of the Goddess of lust😂 I can only imagine how she would deal with my group…
@Maialeen
10 ай бұрын
I can't imagine because that's not classic. According to her own self, I don't know where she thinks she gets the right to play that.
@robkrol2137
10 ай бұрын
That bit about Marriage being based on traditional duty made me think about giving my daughter away to the Dauphin to secure the alliance with France. . . Like come on now lol
@OkaeriKairii
10 ай бұрын
Pregnancy and having children are two of my biggest fears... and the idea that Abby thinks I *have* to have a child? Like omg. Both I and that child would be beyond miserable.
@bethmoore7722
10 ай бұрын
Coercing, & even forcing women into childbirth and childcare is a major source of depression in women, and their kids don’t do well, either. I hope you stay the course, and have the life you want. It’s nobody’s business but your own, and childless people often contribute more to our society than those with children. Childcare takes an incredible amount of energy. And money.
@valenciasaintilus9573
10 ай бұрын
@@bethmoore7722people that have children are the ones who literally create society which is the biggest contribution.
@Jo-Elle504
10 ай бұрын
I love being a mom, but it didn’t make me a better or more complete person. That’s all hogwash. I hate when my child free friends are made to feel “less than.” I don’t want my kids coerced into procreating either.
@Jo-Elle504
10 ай бұрын
@@valenciasaintilus9573 People who have damaged children damage society the most as well. So there’s that. It’s not so straightforward.
@DoritoBot9000
10 ай бұрын
Abby is the one that “needed” to have children because she was likely conditioned all her life to believe that was her ultimate purpose. The idea that so many other women can be fulfilled with different lifestyles is so egregious to her, because that means that she sacrificed her own independence and goals (getting married way too young and living solely as a caretaker) for no “good reason”. I’m certain that most of these women that bash and judge so publicly feel cheated, but instead of identifying the actual origin of their discontent, they resort to attacking others.
@gayotis
10 ай бұрын
“If you are a woman, you have inherent femininity about you” bro tell that to my PCOS lmao
@leonideschnuppe
10 ай бұрын
Aspecialy my receding hairline 😮
@lexg5317
10 ай бұрын
Abby saying marriage is about duty and not love like shes a princess from the middle ages who has to make her marriage work otherwise her and her husbands kingdoms will start war
@PanickinSkywalker
8 ай бұрын
Maybe that’s why she likes d&d.
@someusername4129
10 ай бұрын
Remember that period in KZitem where classically Abby ads were inescapable? Like to this day I still wonder what the cost of that ad buy was.
@elizabethwillis885
10 ай бұрын
I think it’s why Jen hit it big. Everyone was like, who the hell is this Abby person I keep seeing?!?! And so they would Google her name and Jen’s video probably popped up. Of course people had to watch so they could figure out who this jerk was.
@melanie1825
10 ай бұрын
"Why dont you support me?" From trad-wives is just "I'm used to being the center of the world and if you are also trying to support any cross sectional woman, you obviously don't care enough about ME"
@wiwi2154
10 ай бұрын
You mentioned how Mrs. Midwest's rant about "feminine" bone structure reads as super transphobic, and I totally agree. I wanted to also add that it reminds me sooo much of phrenology and ties into a lot of racist attitudes, like how African and South Asian women are told or implied that they look "less feminine" because of their facial features. Anytime people start attaching positive or negative traits to bone structure it sets off 1000 alarm bells for me!
@kellyburds2991
10 ай бұрын
Technically, it's physiognomy (phrenology was "reading" head bumps), but everything else you said applies.
@desertels5119
10 ай бұрын
I think she probably got it from the incel theory about skulls and attractiveness but has spread over to transphobia - very Foppingtons Law
@caitieeeee
10 ай бұрын
She also mentioned hair texture which felt very racist.
@wiwi2154
8 ай бұрын
thanks for the clarification @@kellyburds2991!
@LG-lp7cl
10 ай бұрын
Classically Abby is the most genius character that Jenny Slate ever created
@laurenconrad1799
10 ай бұрын
Did you ever see the film that Jenny Slate starred in called Obvious Child? It was fantastic and also painfully pre-2022. It's a light breezy romcom about a woman who gets an abortion because she knows it's the right choice for her but doesn't make a bigger deal about it than that and that's it.
@LG-lp7cl
10 ай бұрын
@@laurenconrad1799 yeah! I watched it sometime in the temporal nexus of 2020. I remember loving it. Now it feels like it should be essential viewing
@marihawley
10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@darcybhaiwala7057
10 ай бұрын
Abby getting into D&D was not on my bingo card for this year
@rachelhansen2417
10 ай бұрын
I am a very girly girl who loves long hair, dresses, and fiber arts, and I want to pursue higher education and have a career. I also struggle with chores. I am no less of a woman for my strengths and weaknesses.
@sh0shkabob
10 ай бұрын
Abby was 2 years below me in high school. She (and her sister a year above me) were both into fantasy stuff like LOTR back then so the D&D interest tracks tbh. Also, she was Tony in our all-girls school’s production of West Side Story. She honestly knocked it out of the park lol
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