Makes me happy when I see the younger generation discovering the music I grew up listening to. Must listen to The Spangle Maker, Pearly Dew Drops, Carolyn's Fingers, Lorelei and Blue Bell Knoll
@eightiefiv3
9 ай бұрын
Great songs to highlight, in my opinion! ❤
@spinglasshydra
Жыл бұрын
It's a misconception when I read about people who say Elizabeth Fraser doesn't have lyrics, because she definitely does. After 43+ years of band dedication, but also I'm the script-editor for the Cocteau Twins movie, so I've been able to entered a world that only a select few have entered. About 95% of her lyrics are relatively inaudible to the general public, which was not intended on the 'Four Calendar Café' album (if you carefully listen, she discusses her therapy and progress) but, as always, they're meaning is only for herself to understand. "Musette and Drums" is a tirade Elizabeth had regarding people attempting to decipher her lyrics, her personal traumas, and the constant annoyance of fame (regarding a lack of freedom) plus a general angst towards the music industry. The true lyrics for "Musette and Drums" are very simple; however for interpretation, people need to understand some backstory. Elizabeth has always advocated that you should create your own lyrics. Robin, Simon, as well as Elizabeth understood the psychology of "Anchoring". What is "Anchoring"....??? It's a mental process which ties into mondegreens at hearing something else, away from what is actually spoken. This process makes everyone have different interpretations about her lyrics, which personalize and customizes every song to that specific listener. Although, I do know the real lyrics, from the very first 'CocteauForum' moderated by Leesa Beals, when we 33 super-fan's spent years deciphering Elizabeth's lyrics. We then presented them to Elizabeth began to cry and so she asked all of us to never reveal the lyrics to anyone. So, in short, a promise is a promise and I'd never hurt Elizabeth by betraying the confidante placed in me. Even my wife has never read the music lyrics or the edited Cocteau Twins movie script ― That are locked safely away in a bank vault. Although, I'm allowed to discuss all around KZitem some backstories, as well as some reasons behind various songs. This song was meant to be understood; therefore, I'm not violating my pact with Elizabeth: It began, We're Fast Friends and Fearless, Money And, Watching Gets To Hard .....!!!! Heart and Soul They Think I'm a Genius Some bodies, She Turned Thirteen ..... (No.....!!!!) Tragedy End, Am I Pretty Enough .....??? Musette and Drums [I'm] Almost A Genius This song goes into different variations which are not in the same sequence, until she ends by singing, "You're a Genius Too". Elizabeth hates flattery and when the magazine publications started to constantly ask "What are you saying?" ― So she became enraged..... !!!! She wanted "Musette and Drums" to be vocally understood; but, as it turned out, people only hear what they want to hear. Even Robin has said that he has created his own version of the lyrics, but it was always a non-issue for everyone involved whenever recording themselves. Elizabeth freely admits she went to a Psychiatric therapy due to some sexual abuse suffered as a teenager which accounts for the "She turned thirteen ― No.....!!!!" phrase in her lyrics. She was diagnosed with Psychogenic Dysphonia, which is a rare condition that cross-wires inside the brain. "Talking" and "Singing" are located in two completely different regions of the brain, but both are not the same function physiologically speaking. With the recent release of "Sun's Signature" she's now completely audible, but the rest is fairly self-explanatory. The "Tragedy End" bit refers to everything concerning; 'Money', 'Friendship', 'Fame', 'The Endless Questions', 'the Media torment', 'Robin's constant cheating', plus throwing all her energy into her music ― Then only to have the public not understand the Cocteau Twins, as a whole, she asks will this tragedy ever end.....??? She once said in an interview, about people saying that she does not have lyrics: "How stupid can people be ....??? ― I lose faith in humanity when I hear this bullshit .....!!!" If you understand "how" Elizabeth sings, then every single one of their albums opens up to the listener and then it's completely understandable. To correct the record, Elizabeth only used foreign language lyrics on the Victorialand album, as well as the scientific names for different butterfly species from an old entomology book she bought at a rubbish sale. I always tell people to just relax and make your own lyrics, because Elizabeth will never publish her lyrics. By the way, Robin is still extremely protective of his band, so he's legally making all the lyrics websites stop from releasing severely bad interpretations of Elizabeth's lyrics.
@krasteff
4 ай бұрын
Ok but who cares? What you've written is exactly what ruins rock - too much insight into rubbish. This is punk rock, those bands started in the aftermath of Sex pistols, no big science there.
@spinglasshydra
4 ай бұрын
@@krasteff This is neither "Rock" or "Punk", but Post-Punk/Goth and there were many more Punk bands other than the Sex Pistols. Besides this fact, your free to either read this information or not ― Either way, I don't need to justify myself to anyone much less you.
@krasteff
4 ай бұрын
@@spinglasshydra And according to your classification of genres, Siouxsie and the Banshees are punk or post punk? The Skids? Punk or New wave, given the fact that term was already used in 1976 for punk rock bands?
@spinglasshydra
4 ай бұрын
@@krasteff Maybe you should consider taking a Music Theory class, because what you say is incredibly ignorant.
@krasteff
4 ай бұрын
@@spinglasshydra Or maybe you should read Melody Maker, Jan 1, 1977.
@jasonegeland1446
Жыл бұрын
I listened the shit out of Musette and Drums and Pink Opaque back in the early nineties. Still one of my favorite bands of all time.
@joseluisranchero4375
Жыл бұрын
Completly a master piece. That feelings translated into music.
@laendeavor
Жыл бұрын
It is quite disturbing and chaotic then beautiful and radiant,,,,,,,,,all at once. That's the magic of all of their music that pulled me in, this is my fav band. Unique, wizardry......genius!
@thisisnotclever
Жыл бұрын
Robin's guitar solo is spine-chilling.
@a.k.1740
2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous piece and one of my favorites from the Cocteau Twins, with this dark and misty atmosphere and its compact yet ethereal sound. "The Tinderbox (of A Heart)", "My Love Paramour" or even "In Our Angelhood" from the same album are also recommended but anyway the whole Head over Heels album is excellent !
@johnhawk1089
2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to go wrong with the Cocteau Twins!
@gimu.gilmarmonte
2 жыл бұрын
I cried watching you being in awe of that song ❤️ Cocteau Twins is just this timeless entity, so sublime, so beautiful, it's beyond comprehension. Phew! I'm free. I can only take it all in. "Musete..." is... I know you know. Beautiful, Nick. Thanks.
@InsignificantNick
2 жыл бұрын
You're gonna make me cry!
@gimu.gilmarmonte
2 жыл бұрын
@@InsignificantNick ❤️❤️❤️
@laendeavor
Жыл бұрын
I teared up as well. Part of it was the song itself x
@rollandjoeseph
10 ай бұрын
Same here, amazing tears
@thebeardedseeker5633
10 ай бұрын
Me too. It's nice to see when someone from a younger generation gets it.
@thebeardedseeker5633
10 ай бұрын
I've been a fan since 1985. Cocteau Twins remind me that there's still magic in this world ... or at least there used to be.
@slappedhappy9549
2 жыл бұрын
Oh Nik! Got so much Cocteau Twins vinyl!My favorite Album is Treasure! Fell in love first time with a Person listening to Loreley over and over again! Thanx for bringing back these memories !Will listen to all my CT Stuff tonight...💓
@WitchofScots
9 ай бұрын
I need to start listening to the Cocteau Twins again. And a lot!
@grantpaterson1016
2 жыл бұрын
Liz Fraser is one of Scotlands truly unique creative talents.... If you are inclined you could try The Jesus and Mary Chain, from about the same time and place, there album Psychocandy was regularly named the most important and greatest Indie album ever made. Songs like Some Candy Talking kzitem.info/news/bejne/0H9_yoB3imWfqZg Just Like Honey kzitem.info/news/bejne/mHudqJOVkqSSp3o Never Understand kzitem.info/news/bejne/w2iY4KZ5fH11qpg or my personal driving favourite The Living End kzitem.info/news/bejne/zIinxaOJg2aXgJw When Bobby Gillespie left after this he formed Primal Scream :)
@ferleiva7080
3 ай бұрын
For me, in the chorus she says "Church in the air" very clearly. But she was improvising her own language at the time. Hence no lyric sheet.
@tonycollins6271
4 ай бұрын
As a guy of 59 . Buying this album when it came out..makes me happy seeing younger people loving music I was brought up on...
@badtzmarutattoo
4 ай бұрын
This band is a vibe; she usually doesn't sing words like Lisa Gerrard from Dead Can Dance
@ijustneedmyself
2 жыл бұрын
Yaaaaasssss. I knew we could count on you to be the first one to react to this masterpiece!! "A slice of heaven"... A completely apt description.
@malcolmpayne8211
2 жыл бұрын
Please try Heaven or Las Vegas. It's one of their more 'commercial' songs, although being the Cocteau Twins nothing is mainstream.
@JohnM...
2 жыл бұрын
Compared to there other work I think personally it's less than average
@joseluisranchero4375
Жыл бұрын
@@JohnM... I agree.. absolutly
@Westerdd
2 жыл бұрын
There is a pretty big back catalogue from this band of amazing songs and sounds. I reckon you should start a Cocteau Twins Mondays
@deborahpaley21
Жыл бұрын
This was the song to listen to over and over, when your heart was breaking, in 1985. 68 here, you really had to be there.
@dannymarksya
2 жыл бұрын
Liz's vocals have always served as another instrument, looking for lyrics is unnecessary, the words are chosen for their sound rather than sense (some made up, some foreign), at least early in the band's discography. Later on, Liz begins to use more (I hesitate to say) traditional lyricism. Regardless, haunting and gorgeous every time.
@rollandjoeseph
10 ай бұрын
Yet another hauntingly beautiful song by the CT ..more where that came from !
@MrJambot
2 жыл бұрын
Those preview images continue to crack me up. Also, the occasional 'slide in from the side' opening is jolly good fun.
@senoritaluna8673
3 ай бұрын
I used to have this album and I had not pay much attention to this song. What? I just discovered this song a couple months ago and couldn’t stop listening to it. It’s so Intense just whoa, those fast drums in the end get me each time.
@robgrano6814
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of their best tracks. Very much proto-shoegaze. Can't tell me that Kevin Shields of MBV and the guys from Slowdive weren't familiar with this one! 😉
@jameslay1489
Жыл бұрын
Especially listening to Only Shallow.
@rhysf9902
4 ай бұрын
From the moment i heard Wax and Wane on John Peel in the 80s i was hooked
@lesmodulesetranges1984
Жыл бұрын
Musette and drums, in our angelhood, hitherto, Amelia, the itchy..., Pandora. There are a lot of killer tracks by the CT
@SIRRUBADUBDUB
Жыл бұрын
Liz Fraser later complained about being put in front of a wall of sound - thank goodness she put up with it
@martinquarton184
Жыл бұрын
I love Robin's guitar as it screams towards the end of the track.
@coldgrandpa
Жыл бұрын
No but for real this is one of those cocteau twins songs that make you feel transcendent. Seeing live performances and looking at how the ppl dance in the crowd is so funny bc it's like.... that's exactly how I feel i have to move to the song. such a beautiful piece and I agree, it really is art. You can literally apply principles of design to it-- the texture, the swells and the release, the contrast between the gritty instrumental and her pure tone, the pattern, the balance, the rhythm. It's all there. Fuck yeah cocteau twins. And I love the fanbase. Its just really cool old people
@jeffwykoff5560
Жыл бұрын
Elizabeth makes up all the lyrics for all their as “word poems” they don’t mean anything! Don’t bother looking for meaning online …let the lyrics mean whatever you want. It’s un-freaking believable. One of the most amazing and powerful songs I’ve ever heard. Gives me goosebumps. If ever the phrase “turn it up” applied, this song is it. They were geniuses for their time and these songs from this era will live forever. Their song “Ivo” from the album Treasure is very similar pleas listen to it.
@InsignificantNick
Жыл бұрын
That's what I've come to learn about Liz. The lyrics don't mean anything! She's so good.
@bobbysevensevenseven
2 жыл бұрын
I've long thought over the decades she's singing "Oh lonesome Juliet"... Also, this track is a super closer to an amazing album, which starts off with the very haunting "When Mama Was Moth" - and excellent tracks in-between!
@hammalammadingdong6244
10 ай бұрын
This song is like being torn apart but somehow falling in love with the feeling.
@melissagrant5295
Жыл бұрын
Being from Scotland, loved them from 14 yrs,now I'm 55,biast as I am ...wow the best,😮🎉🎉🎉🎉
@melissagrant5295
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for replying,awesome cocteau twins....never ages for me 🙂
@harrykrommenhoek3656
2 жыл бұрын
Mussete & Drums is epic. I recommend “Peppermint Pig” 7” version by Cocteau Twins. The 12” version is good as well.
@SIRRUBADUBDUB
Жыл бұрын
Think I have listened to Wax and Wane about 100 times
@lornai7171
2 жыл бұрын
Absolute classic. Have you done Goldfrapp Utopia? Gorgeous and ethereal too, another incredible voice
@rexmandrake4182
2 жыл бұрын
I second Utopia. Amazing album, amazing vocals!
@SIRRUBADUBDUB
Жыл бұрын
Raw power and soul, all over
@christianhoneyman6779
2 жыл бұрын
Great reaction to a great song from my favorite band ever. 😀😃😄😁
@twilliams3642
Жыл бұрын
It's an experience
@MisterWondrous
2 жыл бұрын
So it really isn't Cocktoe! Cool! Thanks man. I feel as if I have entered into a sort of alternate reality, but it might have to do with the quality of air. Love this and many bands of the 4AD label. Dead Can Dance has never made a bad song, but they have made many a masterpiece. An endless source of delight as is anything Lisa Gerrard touches. Their docu-concert "Toward the Within" has other wondrous content to behold as well.
@Grithron2
2 жыл бұрын
This may not be the song one points to demonstrate Guthrie's greatness as a composer/arranger, but it's one of his overwhelming, reputation-sealing "guitar moments". (See also the feedback excursions of the Garlands era, or his stacks of assorted stringed instruments in Beatrix/Amelia/Feet Like Fins). If you were going to do a full-album review - speaking as one of those people who feel Treasure is overrated and problematic, I prefer to recommend the two-part affair Tiny Dynamine/Echoes In A Shallow Bay (the "lepidoptera-themed" album). Considered as an "album" (not a two-EP miniseries) it's the last one before they started to streamline the sound and/or go "ambient" - the one where all their eccentricities (well, the singer's eccentricities) are upfront and in your face. Archetypal fan-favorite material, in other words.
@garthlyon
Ай бұрын
“When Mama was Moth”: Moth is short for Mother (northern dialect), not Lepidoptera.
@DAVIDANDREWSPTUK
Жыл бұрын
Its pure European music, pagan, celtic, old world.
@grantpaterson1016
2 жыл бұрын
Actually seen the Cocteaus twice..think it was 86 and 90...I know I was about 14 first time (I had growth and luckily the Barrowland bouncers were otherwise distracted, otherwise it would have been painful hahaha) If Eminem wrote - Music to be murdered by...the Cocteaus wrote - Music to think...A LOT by lol
@timdraper4559
Жыл бұрын
Yet another one of CT twins songs that, by the end of it, my eyes are weepy. The opening track to Blue Bell Knoll does this to me as well for some reason, amongst others. Am I odd?
@mikebaptista8895
2 жыл бұрын
Sou brasileiro e amo o Cocteau Twins, esse disco é um dos meus favoritos, apenas atrás de Victorialand e Treasure.
@deborahpaley21
Жыл бұрын
All of Pink Opaque. All of Heaven and Las Vegas.
@unkindestcut
2 жыл бұрын
You need to get back to This Mortal Coil- maybe listen to their Big Star cover, Kangaroo, alongside the original.
@garycumner6804
Жыл бұрын
incredible song
@taliesinechoes4513
Жыл бұрын
I use to think that she wasn't singing actual words, or at least that she wasn't using English words. Here's the shocker...almost every song, if not every song, is in English. I know that she also used words from old English books that use words that you just don't hear today. It's he pronunciation that's the magic. Again, my all-time favorite band.
@femme-mirage
2 ай бұрын
One of the most powerful songs of CT
@EOTA564
2 жыл бұрын
CT are one of those acts who seem to have an influence that is very far reaching, not just the obvious genres such as shoe gaze. I was heavily into the Norwegian Black Metal scene in my youth and discovered Cocteau Twins latterly. Their first two albums, this track in particular, made me wonder if Varg Vikernes was also a fan. To my ear there is a common thread though this as Det Som Engang Var. Garlands sounds like the original DSBM album haha.
@franko6677
2 жыл бұрын
This band’s entire catalog is basically full of songs that make you say “Good Lord” after you hear them haha. Otherworldly stuff. Their earlier stuff like this was more gothic sounding, the goth elements became less as they went on. I hope you will check out the full albums, at least Treasure and Heaven or Las Vegas which are generally their 2 most acclaimed.
@Lilione111
7 ай бұрын
This song is one of my top 5 songs ever! Song to the siren is my number one.
@jimfletcher8212
6 ай бұрын
Best guitar solo and bass drum pattern ever at the end of this song!
@MKMKMK1986
2 жыл бұрын
Saw your face man, like WOW . you got it man , my favourite group.🥰
@maha77
11 ай бұрын
Love your assessment of the song after, very accurate, I just discovered your channel tonight I'm going to go watch some more, but if you haven't checked it out yet check out their song *_'Lazy Calm'_* , one of my favorite of theirs
@chrissmith6022
Жыл бұрын
Scotland’s finest …
@scodee
2 жыл бұрын
Oblivious- Aztec Camera Driving away from home- It’s Immaterial Bonny - Prefab Sprout Duel - Propaganda Bang on the ear - The Waterboys Turning Japanese- The Vapours Just a couple of suggestions for you mate. !!
@davidw6528
5 ай бұрын
Imagine us doing x and tripping to this music back in the day !!!
@InsignificantNick
5 ай бұрын
Sounds like a time and a half!
@davidw6528
5 ай бұрын
@@InsignificantNick yup sure was lol
@craigdick5606
2 жыл бұрын
Listen to all of ' Heaven or Las Vegas' and ' 4 calendar café' She is not using words. She is using her voice and tone as an instrument. It is not until 4 calendar café that she sings in English. Listen to Bluebeard... or the last song on the 4 calendar. " I am not afraid of your anger...Do you need more?'
@rayname908
2 жыл бұрын
CAROLINE'S FINGERS , BLUEBEARD, ICE BLINK LUCK, IVO, BLUE BELL KNOLL, HEAVEN OR LAS VEGAS, ORANGE APPLED, FROSTY THE SNOW MAN (yes, really) Cocteau Twins are amazing
@slbgraphics2
2 жыл бұрын
So great!!
@LuisCrisantemo
9 ай бұрын
É um som sinistro e melancólico. Cocteau Twins é o desespero de Orfeu.
@dprid
2 жыл бұрын
All the lyrics are wrong - they have never been published so any you see online are people guessing what she sings. On later albums a lot of the words are made up, it's more voice as an instrument, although that got less on their final few releases.
@prashantkotak5181
2 жыл бұрын
If you like this song you will likely like Lorelei - great song with mysterious lyrics.
@InsignificantNick
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'll have to get to that one!
@slappedhappy9549
2 жыл бұрын
I agree so bad here !
@slappedhappy9549
2 жыл бұрын
I'm german and the myth of Loreley was always interesting to me!It took place in the River Rhine..Lovit
@linorosi8002
6 ай бұрын
Grazie grazie grazie
@carlrthompson7296
3 ай бұрын
If you like this try persephone
@thesound-chameleonman3580
2 жыл бұрын
You need to react to Love's Easy Tears by Cocteau Twins.
@marcharley6465
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for responding to another one of my suggestions, Nick. I knew you'd really like it.
@ijustneedmyself
2 жыл бұрын
I don't remember when I first recommended this song, but I've been waiting a long time!! Sooo beyond happy he enjoyed it as I expected him to.
@Jon.Ninety
2 жыл бұрын
If you're looking for requests, and aren't aware of post metal, try Wills Dissolve by ISIS (2004). It is metal, it's heavy in parts, but is beautifully musical, mostly instrumental, and not what you expect when you hear 'metal'. Amazing musicians, it's an experience.
@santipink4754
Жыл бұрын
❤😳💙
@danielet612
4 ай бұрын
@JohnM...
2 жыл бұрын
This was my favourite angry song as a disillusioned teenager
@coldgrandpa
Жыл бұрын
This is so funny this is my reaction to this song too
@neoxca
2 жыл бұрын
hey go to portishead roads....nice work man!
@andyg4482
2 жыл бұрын
Take a listen to Cocteau Twins cover of Billie Holiday's " Strange Fruit ". Also "Take Me With You" solo effort by Elizabeth Fraser
@coldgrandpa
Жыл бұрын
Another good transcendent shoegaze song would be dont know why by slowdive for sure if u dont know it
@josharansky
Жыл бұрын
Seems like you’re really into goth stuff, check out the band Kayo Dot maybe the song Whisper Ineffable or Get Out of the Tower.
@AnyRoadAnyTime
2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! But the amount of reverb throughout the recording doesn't showcase Elizabeth's voice enough. Blue Bell Knoll and Heaven Or Las Vegas are much better recordings AND the band was at a pinnacle of artistic expression and passion during this period.
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