I think it’s cool that someone finally acknowledges how frustrating the ending to origins was. I think they handled it well for most of that story but at the time it felt like fnaf level story telling. Ultimately I think blundell didn’t know where to take the story and did his best to try to work around the fact that the world in the original universe is essentially destroyed.
@frankkennedy6388
Ай бұрын
People have always acknowledged how frustrating it is.
@Mega-Brick
Ай бұрын
It's funny you say that, I think FNAF and CoD Zombies exist in a very similar storytelling niche; essentially, they're both the narrative equivalent of junk food: they're not nutritious (have no meaningful moral or message or character arc), but they're tasty (fun and satisfying). Which is fine, there's room for that kind of storytelling in our lives. Both stories exist to satisfy the innate pleasure we get from a series of events, and the lore (and mystery) that builds up around those events. It's part of why I love both; _most_ stories I enjoy have some meaningful unifying idea, or a character that grows in a relatable way, or otherwise a message (good or bad) to convey. So it's nice to have these stories that are, in essence, a collection of fun action figures, as opposed to deep characters.
@Oddrockz
Ай бұрын
@@Mega-Brick completely agree. Alot of that is because both games started off in similar places. Both were made essentially for fun with no story in mind. After it was successful then there was a demand for story so they wrote the story as they went. I think the only difference is that Scott cawthon cared so much about the story for so long that he only ever retconned one thing prior to sister location. I think the team behind zombies more or less cared about the story to the extent that the story could create cool maps.
@jonnyt5118
Ай бұрын
@@Mega-Brickthe problem is they keep on ending the story over and over again. Resurrecting it just to shoot it down again. But don’t worry they can just use the multiverse to keep it going, it gets tiring and over-explains itself to the point it’s not interesting anymore. I think Origins is a fun map but ruined the mystery in the story by trying to explain itself.
@wkey4dub
Ай бұрын
me personally i found origins to be an excellent ending. It left a perfect amount of info to setup for bo3's story, without going overboard with it, very unlike everything recently
@satoukazuma5958
Ай бұрын
On the how Nikolai could have handled his death without traumatizing Samantha: He could have easily asked her to pour him a glass of what the others took. "Samantha, could you pour me some wine?" "Why?" "Because I cannot do it myself." Samantha grabs a bottle and pours some into a cup and hands it to Nikolai. Nikolai pats Samantha on the head as he toasts to Eddie. "To you both, the bravest of us all. The portals opens and Sam and Eddie walk through it, Eddie tries to look back at Nikolai but Sam keeps him looking forward. As the world begins to fade, Nikolai goes and takes a seat next to his friends and takes a sip as he rests his eyes one final time.
@joshuacapron8358
Ай бұрын
@@satoukazuma5958 Treyarch should hire you as a writer.
@GrimNobody
24 күн бұрын
One last drink.
@DoomReaper115
21 күн бұрын
Wait really…. Seriously… how could you, dude! You really went with “a glass of wine”, fucking WINE! If homeboy’s drinking anything, no matter which NilokI we’re talking; pour that man some VODKA!!!!
@satoukazuma5958
21 күн бұрын
@@DoomReaper115 I mean vodka would be more fitting for, perhaps, Ultimis Nikolai, but Gorad Krovi makes Nikolai seem like he gives it up (throws away his counter's bottle). Also most of what the others drank looks red, so I went with wine.
@drgojira6044
20 күн бұрын
A more fitting ending, if you ask me..
@danblakeslee3570
28 күн бұрын
At the end of BO1, I had arguments with my friends. I was the only one with the foresight to see that zombies wasn't over. The rest of them were like, "They blew up the earth. There's no more zombies. They'll start on a new mode for the next game." Guess who's still right more than 10 years later. Ha.
@SuperFilmregisseur
17 күн бұрын
Goated moment
@blacklight683
16 күн бұрын
Bo3 is 9years old so it is over 10
@hippo1985
13 күн бұрын
@@blacklight683 They said "more than 10 years later", that usually means over 10 years...
@raven75257
6 күн бұрын
Zombies will NEVER be over. For one simple reason. Zombies brings a lot of money to Microsoft. They will never let their cashcow go
@koltonlomas7111
Ай бұрын
The problem with the non- treyarch games endings is because they were setting up for a continuation without anticipating the Activision might shut their idea down
@ragesketchy
Ай бұрын
This is one of the best/funniest zombies commentary video I’ve seen in so long. Highly entertained throughout the whole thing💯
@user-yr3ep3bg7v
Ай бұрын
Same, the amount of dark humor satisfied me through the whole thing.
@jonnyt5118
Ай бұрын
Same, I feel like everyone just rolls along with the bs storyline they pump out! Thanks for all the laughs
@Schregger
Ай бұрын
I was deeply offended with that 911 joke... Than I start howling as the second one hit...
@Republican_Banana
Ай бұрын
It's clear the writers just made it up as they went along. It became such a messy storyline that became impossible to follow. It went downhill hard once it abandoned the zombies being the main threat and introduced the multiverse and aliens and such.
@Aegxs
20 күн бұрын
Even by their own admission, Treyarch was just making it up as they went and using community ideas to progress the plot. The problem is when they abandoned the charm of uncovering conspiracies and such by going the Lovecraftian cosmic horror route. You know, a different style of horror entirely
@justmyluck624
14 күн бұрын
Nah, Black Ops 3 was the peak of the mode as far as character depth and story went, I would say that they fell off when the Zombies team lost the ability to focus on one game at a time, ie Bo4
@Smpant79
11 күн бұрын
Welllll blundell had a plan for bo4 while making bo3 wasnt fully realized and jimmy zelinski didnt really know how to continue the story from moon, but blundell put a lot of tbought into things
@sslingo
4 күн бұрын
I feel like moon was the peak, them nuking the earth and Samantha switching with richtofen was INSANE for the time
@Republican_Banana
4 күн бұрын
@@sslingo absolutely. Moon was peak for the story. Then bo2 the story kind of plummeted but the ending worked ok with buried. Then there was origins...
@emogaysasuuke
Ай бұрын
Just the opening and then the follow up on the joke *chef's kiss*
@paul-wt8rp
Ай бұрын
To be honest I’ve never liked how the story changed from a nazi experiment gone wrong to a multiversal battle between aliens to take over Agartha or whatever it was. Once the story took itself seriously every single aspect of zombies just worsened as a whole.
@c0smicc4nc3r4
Ай бұрын
Yeah I still don’t understand how the original crew, which is pretty much a meme, became into a serious story 12 year olds could follow
@Johaufs
Ай бұрын
The idea that the story went from a group of walking stereotypes of WW2 soldiers to serious people fighting for the future of the planet is hilariously dumb. It makes zero sense and is why I completely believe Blundell is a complete hack who thinks he’s smarter than he is. Prior to him the zombies story was crazy people doing crazy shit and making mistakes that doom the world and how people interact with that world, and then he comes into the series it turns into the good guys trying to get the of the bad guys, it goes from something with interesting and fun ideas into the typical bad vs good, just pathetic
@paul-wt8rp
Ай бұрын
@@Johaufs Based. That is exactly what I thought once BO3 rolled around. If anything the whole plot follows the classic archetype of a capeshit story involving world-ending threats and these so called heroes (that were meant to be taken as you said, a comedic stereotype of ww2 soldiers)
@PM-wt3ye
Ай бұрын
@@c0smicc4nc3r4 You want 12 year olds to play nazi zombies?! WTF
@dariuspalmer2829
Ай бұрын
I understand the critic but where would you go with the story after Moon
@chucksneedlee
Ай бұрын
Zombies ended with Revelations. Everything after is the writings of someone post lobotomy.
@PaisiosOfGOAOA
6 күн бұрын
To be honest it ended with me in Black Ops 2 buried Richtofen ending. That was the last map and ending I truly felt satisfied with. I hated Black Ops 3 during the majority of its time being in the spotlight and even after Cold War and going back and playing it I still hate it I feel like Black Ops 3 in Origins started the downfall of zombies
@TheUnstableNutcase
4 күн бұрын
Replace “Revelations” with “Buried” and this comment is accurate
@davemac9563
Ай бұрын
With Black Ops 4’s ending, it was just getting things over with. I think they needed to give up. There was literally no other way. And I thought it was a very emotionally impactful end, especially when it’s up to the player the let Samantha and Eddie walk to the light while you hear the characters you played as for a decade recite what they wanted in life. But the way the game lead up to this conclusion was sloppy. All the plot points that lead up to this were dropped or rushed. That’s the big issue.
@z304legend
Ай бұрын
What? Man they could of done so much more but peiple woukd rather ignore other people's ideas so they stay up at the top...seriously there was so many ideas from others they could of ran with...and bo4 wasn't so bad, it was how it came out was horrible and how they first started the "buy skins for guns" shtick in cod. Seriously so many ideas so many weird, fun, serious etc attempts could of been made but they wanted to to with the military ideas which is lame in zombies
@Mega-Brick
Ай бұрын
It's very fitting for a gamemode about surviving as long as possible (which was also represented in the characters' ploy with the cycle and everything) to have this ultimate ending of "we need to give up and not survive."
@DiddlePantsFTW
Ай бұрын
It’s a shit ending no matter how you try to prop it up.
@mustafakemalataturk1273
Ай бұрын
@@DiddlePantsFTW as soon as you bring the multiverse and time loops in lore, destroying said multiverse is the only way a time loop can end. write a better ending if you are such a good writer
@UnknownUser-bk2kf
Ай бұрын
@@mustafakemalataturk1273there where options for better endings. Following your logic, bo4 shouldn't even have happened. The ending of bo4 contradicts the whole Aether storyline
@monistermat2093
10 күн бұрын
1:58 and then the second one hit.... I lost it 🤣
@DEVBEEF
Ай бұрын
“Saying you’re a cod zombies fan is a lot like saying you’re a fan of the twin towers” Subbed
@ReaperofValhalla
Ай бұрын
Same. Turned on the bell when he said “God hates Quitters but she hate PS3 BO3 more”
@elijahmugrage
20 күн бұрын
That’s what got me too. Speaking as a before the towers fell kind of guy
@TBeat
20 күн бұрын
@@elijahmugrage im more of a post-tower enjoyer
@elijahmugrage
20 күн бұрын
@@TBeat you need prayer.
@ReaperofValhalla
20 күн бұрын
@@elijahmugrage there ain’t a god in this realm that could help with that
@XyamaProductions
Ай бұрын
Also Great Theory about Samantha's Voice (American when Pure, German when corrupted) but the only reason she had a American accent in Origins is because at the time they didn't have the original Samantha Voice actor so they got another one (that could also explain why in the Origins trailer her voice sounds corrupted since they didn't have the voice at the moment). Also because of not getting voice actors in time yet again is the reason Dead of the night was a DLC map.
@DiddlePantsFTW
Ай бұрын
Jason has said that there is a storyline reason why Samantha has a American accent in Origins
@ryanstover8433
Ай бұрын
Jason also made shit up as he went along. The new director of the zombies storyline who worked under Blundel said as such. They just didn't have the voice actor at the time.
@lookatmyzombies9377
20 күн бұрын
Ya but didn't he tease us about the red zombie eyes but it ended up meaning nothing. One of the devs was just like "make the eyes red" and they went with it no reason
@DiddlePantsFTW
20 күн бұрын
@@ryanstover8433 source?
@ryanstover8433
20 күн бұрын
@DiddlePantsFTW inconsistencies with the storytelling. That and the recent interview with the new lead developer on Bo6, let me see if I can find a link for ya.
@boydudeman
14 күн бұрын
not even 3 seconds in, what a hell of a way to start a video LMAO
@NorthEevee
Ай бұрын
Little thing I want to say about Der Eisendrache. It's not Origins 2, but more Origins but good. DE has almost every thing we love about Origins with the benefit that it doesn't feel mandatory to go for the bows. You can play that map as either a golden age map or a classic survival map. And that's why I personally love it. And have grown to dislike Origins. That map the literal definition of insanity...
@kingofgrim4761
Ай бұрын
True, i had probably my most fun ever playing a no staffs, mostly ballista only (until it got weak) game training in the crazy place… yet I still had to take more than a few mins in the setup phase to unlock the map/generators.
@yaboiferret8681
Ай бұрын
The big thing requiring staff/bow is the panzer and the de panzer is much more threatening ( not in a fun way imo ) without the bows. Making origins easier to play without going for staffs compared to de
@NorthEevee
Ай бұрын
@@yaboiferret8681 On DE you can use the electric trap in the middle to deal with him as well. It's something a lot of people forget. I did too until you said how annoying the panzer is to deal with lol.
@yaboiferret8681
Ай бұрын
@@NorthEevee I don’t find the death ray consistent. It is possible to mess up and for the best results you need to be at the death ray while the panzer spawns. I’ve probably played more origins than de but I’ve planned an absolute ton of both. I can’t reasonably see this as a skill issue, the de panzer is just problematic. The origins panzer is deadly if you get caught lacking but genuinely I don’t see it as a threat in the slightest because he’s designed very fairly. Adding shock charges to the best designed boss in the franchise is the biggest middle finger I’ve ever seen. I like de but find it heavily overrated and it’s purely because of the panzer. Great map shit boss
@yaboiferret8681
Ай бұрын
@@NorthEevee for the record I mean no disrespect. If you like de that’s great. It’s not a bad map but personally the panzer ruins it for me. Plus origins is my favorite so I feel obligated to white knight that shit
@anturkey2074
21 күн бұрын
"For once he's behind A SNIPER SCOPE" FOR JFK IS DIABOLICAL😂
@rakefireimpala
Ай бұрын
i adore your humor and narration omg i needed this 😭
@zealousdemon279
Ай бұрын
the 4 million cuts back to earth exploding isnfucking killing me im subbing immediately LMFAOOOO
@antoniothomsen8354
Ай бұрын
Did you just compare my childhood’s greatest nostalgia to a child’s cartoon 😂 great video!! Hopefully BO6 brings back an amazing storyline
@GonkVR
Ай бұрын
have we learned nothing from this video?
@juanyeat859
Ай бұрын
Bo6 is gonna be mid
@jdmr1c3ing
15 күн бұрын
@@juanyeat859Lol
@VioletAeonSnowfield
27 күн бұрын
One problem I have with the whole thing is that by destroying the blood vials on the younger Richtofen, the Richtofen that's lived through the cycle ensures he can't exist. The moment the vials were abandoned, the cycle should've unraveled because the crew should've ceased to exist. Even with Monty propping up the cycle - it's only allowed to exist because of those blood vials.
@doctorjordanb.dankerson1624
26 күн бұрын
I had thought of this too. The events of Botd are suppose to take place between Zetsubou No Shima and Gorod Krovi. If Post Revelation Richtofen destroyed the blood vials, this alters the events that lead up to Revelations. So this should technically mean that Post Rev Richtofen shouldn't exist due to the events of Revelations never occurring. It's a grandfather paradox. However... Post Revelations Richtofen had consumed the blood vials, which specifically protect him from yhe effects of paradoxes. Monty mentions this as he's questioning how the Primis Crew are still there, as they technically shouldn't exist
@VioletAeonSnowfield
26 күн бұрын
@@doctorjordanb.dankerson1624 This would actually be a grandfather's paradox, of a grandfather's paradox - cancelling each other out and giving the cycle a definite end and beginning, the exact thing that grandfather paradoxes cannot have. Because the original cycle is already a grandfather's paradox. Monty sent them back in time in Revelations; but they had already sent back in time from the very beginning.
@raven75257
6 күн бұрын
That's exactly why you never add time travel to your story. It's incredibly difficult to make time travel work, and in 99% of cases it only makes the story worse
@1247theGreatest
Ай бұрын
And then they did pretty much nothing of note with Samantha in Cold War and now she has a test tube baby daughter. :/
@sethperez9865
Ай бұрын
They explained the origins ending, the ending is the good soul of richtofen and samantha in agartha in the house of dr monty. Also idk who was saying origins was bad i vividly remember people loving this map
@Anonymous-yq6wy
19 күн бұрын
At the time tho, it was never clear what was going on, and if you pay attention he does say this map was considered the golden days of zombies
@raven75257
6 күн бұрын
This map is considered good now, but, man, people were PISSED at the ending at the time. Pretty much everyone thought it was "it's a dream!" ending
@netoak7
6 күн бұрын
The map is good, but at the time, and now the hype died, this ending was baaaad, the name was origins but nothing was explained, and it started a whole new story, Zombies before and after BO3 are totally different because of this
@reaperblaster8291
Ай бұрын
My personal grievance with zombies that I don't ever remember seeing Zombies KZitemrs touch on back in the day was that simply put, 3Arc had no consistent direction for their story whatsoever. From WaW through BO1, I could see the progression of the story and its characters. Richtofen's goals and his manipulation of the other 3 characters via in-game quotes or radios, why the Germans wanted to harness 115 and the U.S. following suit in the arms race (technically going back as far WW2 in zombies canon via a Der Riese radio asking for more funds), why the crew traveled to each map, and everything remaining mostly grounded. From Bo2 onwards, it was a shit show of them leaving too many plotholes and then "fixing" them after several maps. Jumping all of the place and different crews with no cohesive story or connections other than Victus and Primis Richtofen. And even then, its never stated what happened to the OG crew or why they couldn't stop Richtofen and Maxis themselves after Moon. They can obviously go back to Earth. They tried "fixing' all this and more with Origins ending being a "play date", panicked when people didn't like it, and went the multiverse route to explain away any misconceptions and mistakes. Which is cheap and lazy. Sure you get more creative freedom as a writer and mao designer but its grating to have to seek out comics, morse codes, ciphers to understand this shit. I'm not getting graded on my Cod zombies knowledge so I'm not doing some HW for my hobby. A 1/3 of my hobby no-less.
@CactusInsane
Ай бұрын
You can Thank Blundell for that Multiverse crap. The BO2 Destroyed Earth Story felt rushed. I honestly feel like Jimmy ended it with Buried cuz he knew he was gonna leave once his final map was completed and decided to finish his story in a very anticlimactic way. Then there's the current broken Treyarch storyline.
@lookatmyzombies9377
20 күн бұрын
The bo2 story is so bad we went from ww2 - cold War space race conspiracy theories arms race type shi to ppl in 2025 eating zombie flesh and hearing voices... Ok
@CactusInsane
20 күн бұрын
@lookatmyzombies9377 at least it's a somewhat consistent story. The New story has way too much stuff they haven't explained that completely destroys the narrative. How is Chaos cannon to dark Aether if we never get any answers other than that one scientist knowing Allister and Allister gets murdered by the Nazis for the Device. Also why are their difference Gods and demons? Also who's even controlling the Zombies? The order, those gods and demons? The Apothicons? (MWZ made cannon) or the forsaken? At least folks who eat zombies flesh that's infused 115 makes sense why they would hear them
@missionofsin3360
16 күн бұрын
@@CactusInsane Chaos is very much an alternate form of it, Not congruent with the actual Chaos story(pretty normal thing to do overall) the Gods and Demons within The Dark Aether existed within it before the Multiverse collapsed in Tag, in fact the collapse of the multiverse is what even brought to the residents of The Dark Aether that there were other worlds. Who's in control throughout the Dark Aether story is actually really easy(and honestly might be the easiest it's been since BO3, in Vanguard it's Kortifex using his bond with Van List, and in Cold War it's The Forsaken, and in MWZ it's The Entity. Although I am curious one thing, What do you mean by the Apothicons being made canon in MWZ(which tbf they technically always have been as Dark Aether is a sequel to Aether), It could be something in a story cutscene that i've yet to see but as far as i'm aware we have no evidence that they're still kicking around. Nothing you really said actually destroys the narrative though, at worst it just shows they have more stuff to explore, granted that's to be expected given Cold War was focused mainly on the rivalry between Requiem, Omega Group and how The Forsaken is playing on that conflict, Judging from what we've seen I wouldn't be shocked to find out BO6 is gonna be focusing a bit more on the Dark Aether itself.
@CactusInsane
16 күн бұрын
@missionofsin3360 the final ending cutscene of MWZ shows the Shadowman has returned and took Maxis daughter
@Tcmike559
Ай бұрын
Great script and humor. Hope the algorithm picks up this channel 🙏🏽
@blaneonthemoon2507
25 күн бұрын
From what i remember everyone hated origins ending but not the actual map itself. From day 1 ive always heard mostly good things about origins. Only bad thing being the ending.
@user_Z-
15 күн бұрын
I'm only 4 seconds in and LMAO what a start. This is about to be a ride
@FerociousPancake888
24 күн бұрын
What upsets me the most is how far they’ve deviated from their original formula with new zombies. Like I’m decently excited for BO6 but nowhere near as excited as I would be if they ACTUALLY stuck to the core fundamentals like Kevin Drew said they did. Also, Activision Shanghai built most of the last 2 zombies maps in bo4, not treyarch. That explains some things about them.
@RiotSRetro
21 күн бұрын
The reason why Call of the Dead or Tag was used because symbolically it's where the original 4 first met and were brought together after they killed Pablo by "mistake." It's where you can say the crew really got their start and having it end where it started I think is nice.
@lookatmyzombies9377
20 күн бұрын
I didn't think abt that lol poor Pablo I remember when that map came out listening to the radios and imagining a 5th crew member and the kind of lines he would have hahaha
@UnknownUser-bk2kf
Ай бұрын
45:55 That's why I hate the end in bo4, because the whole theme of the Aether story is about finding a way and not giving up. How does the story end? They give up? What is here being communicated? When everything is against you, give up because you cant do anything either way? What was the journey for? Why I liked this story so much, is because Richtofen new that whatever he does, he is not going safe the universe and live through it, but he still tries. Richtofen is scared as hell of dying and thats that's why he "created" the blood vials. At the start he only planned to safe himself, throughout bo3 he gets attached to his crew, grows and wants to safe them too. He makes the conscious decisions to get them the blood vials too. The Vials, the reason the Cycle exist in first place, where "created" out of a egotestical desire. In my opinion the perfect ending for his character arc would have been that he accept his death and through this acceptance and a sacrifice making it possible for his friends to live. To give his brothers the life he could never achieve. His character journey would have went full circle. From saving himself, to trying to safe others, to giving his life for others (and the universe). And through that, bo3 wouldnt have been filler. Because it literally is now, with the ending we have.
@epicgamerzfail4575
Ай бұрын
The way you summed up the themes of the story is perfect. Bo3 actually had a pretty good message of "always finding a way", but then bo4 pulls a 180 and tries to pull a "its time to let it go" storyline. So which is it? Keeping fighting or letting go?
@owentypebeat2449
Ай бұрын
This to me is all about perspective. I don’t think BO4’s ending is about “giving up”, I think it’s about passing the torch. The journey of Aether is going through the past, revisiting these places we’ve known for years. It’s all about sending them off. We are perpetually looking for the answer to how these things end, we weren’t happy with the “always find a way” ending of Revelations, which very much so mirrors BO4. Rev is going through this amalgamation of what has come before in a “look how far we’ve come” sort of way, we are doing the same in BO4, but instead it’s a “we’re back here again”. We needed to put it all to bed. We NEEDED to look to the future. The Primis crew and the Ultimis crew don’t give up at all. They realise it’s time to look to the future, that’s what Eddie and Sam are. Letting their hopes fly in the wind as these two walk in to their new world. They’ll never get to live out those dreams, but they let go of them so that others can do what they couldn’t. I think it’s rather beautiful.
@UnknownUser-bk2kf
Ай бұрын
@@owentypebeat2449 I get u, but could you explain me what purposes their Journey even had? "Giving up" immediately would have been the way better choice. What is being communicated, is really dark and depressing. What I don't mind in storys but it doesn't fit primis narrative at all. It's a 180. Also the majority of Primis and ultimis didn't have a say to their deaths, they died without consent. I don't think it is about passing the torch, because nikolai wanted the kids to live in a Multiverse without any zombies. That's why he mass "genocided" the multiverse 💀. Anyways, his sacrifice and all the other sacrifices get invalidated through cold war. Because the sacrifice leaded to nothing, zombies and eldritch gods are back. But for sure, the ending sequence was beautiful af. But if you think about it, the ending is really bad
@owentypebeat2449
Ай бұрын
@@UnknownUser-bk2kf The point of the journey was to keep on fighting. You go and go and go until you can’t anymore, then when it’s time, you let go, trying to make the future a better place. And if they gave up, then that ‘better place’ wouldn’t have happened. Not gonna sit here and defend Cold War story wise, I think it’s kind of bad, but it’s just natural for things to happen again, it’s all about how we get past it this time around, that’s what matters. Terrible things have happened forever, it’s just part of what life is, it makes sense for more bad shit to happen, but what’s important is that in the end things will be better, and you keep trying towards that end goal.
@UnknownUser-bk2kf
Ай бұрын
@@owentypebeat2449 I think u r missing something. There was a better place, the cycle isn't really a cycle. In those universes (bo3), eddie, Samantha an the rest lived a happy normal life. In contrast to bo4/CW everybody "lives" and is doesnt need to worry about zombies. And fighting for the sake of a better future without it ever happening is from a narrative pov rlly weak
@atpyro7920
19 күн бұрын
The algorithm has smiled upon you today. Also opening with a 9/11 joke, 10/10, instant sub
@toxic_badasss9656
Ай бұрын
Great video !!, very enjoyable and for the most part pretty accurate to how I remember zombies panning out over the years, smiled and laughed alot to 😂😂🧟♂️
@Ezi_pz
20 күн бұрын
For me, the main problem with the mode is that they did not have a defined story and they did it on the fly, something that did affect a little, something that they changed in cold war with a narrative that already has a final or at least a clear idea of how to carry everything
@jacknovak9830
21 күн бұрын
On the note of them already having the assets in BO4 - Nuketown, Call of the dead (Lighthouse), and Mob of the dead (Alcatraz) were all used in blackout’s maps.
@bigtexas517
Ай бұрын
I like the ending, it makes sense and seems like what Nikolai would do. Sacrifice himself and friends to close all the bad endings, so that Samantha and Eddie could hopefully have a good ending
@joshuacapron8358
Ай бұрын
I agree. It really was the best possible outcome.....until Cold War released and gave us the Dark Aether storyline where no, Samantha doesn't get to finally rest and live a normal life, but must still deal with Zombies and her Aether powers and Element 115. *sigh* Activision's gotta make their money somehow....
@bigtexas517
Ай бұрын
@@joshuacapron8358 yep. The creative bank is running low, I wouldn’t be surprised if this universes Nikolai, Takeo, Richthofen, and Dempsey have a part in BO6. But honestly it’s not a big deal to me, I just want round based zombies again🤣. The marketing is going hard rn tho
@joshuacapron8358
Ай бұрын
@@bigtexas517 Lol they'll return with a twist similar to Graves still being alive in MWIII. "You see, we weren't actually in that multiverse we deleted"
@bigtexas517
Ай бұрын
@@joshuacapron8358 couldn’t even be mad at that point🤣 I would just laugh at how ridiculous it would be
@heartbae87
26 күн бұрын
nah the ending to bo4 sucked its clear they only did that ending because they didnt have a budget for the great war map. people who defend it like you are idiots
@steadyghoulin
28 күн бұрын
The zombies story line is incredibly tired and convoluted at this point they need to just start fresh.
@lucast7092
26 күн бұрын
They did with Cold War.
@R.parrish48
24 күн бұрын
@@lucast7092lol, came to say this as well 😂
@shadewolf0075
21 күн бұрын
@@lucast7092 yeah aside from Sam and Eddie the dark aether story is mostly it’s own thing
@name1585
21 күн бұрын
@@lucast7092 barely, what we need is a completely fresh new story without any connection whatsoever to the dark aether or aether whatsoever, no Samantha no Eddie no connections to the previous story.
@name1585
21 күн бұрын
@@shadewolf0075 when you change your book to chapter 2, is it a completely different story, or still a part of the same book?
@alter6243
Ай бұрын
Honestly this is a issue that plagues most stories. By the ending, pretty much all the questions have been answered, no more threads are being weaved. The mystery and discovery is what made the storyline so great. Even during Black Ops 4 which I wasn’t a fan of them continuing the story was still able to give us that intrigue with Blood of the Dead’s twist ending. However, even as a long time fan of the story since WaW, I was way more interested in the Chaos story. It mixed a lot of the concepts from Blundell BO2 maps and BO3 with the more conspiracy theory inspired story of WaW through BO1. I personally felt that Revelations was a good enough ending to the story. The characters going back in time to create the loop was a good enough sacrifice to me. They die for the better tomorrow. Black Ops 4 continuing the story just felt like they didn’t trust us to care for a new set of characters. Which is kinda proven by how recent games don’t even use dedicated crews anymore. Chaos takes the blame for the poor state of BO4 when it was really the aether story. Trying to get people invested in a new story while the story we have been following for years is getting a “true ending” is nearly impossible. Even Treyarch understands the lost potential of that storyline by adding Scarlet’s father into the new Dark Ether storyline. I genuinely feel like zombies would be in a much better place if Treyarch had more faith in the zombies community being open to a new cast of characters.
@CactusInsane
Ай бұрын
The thing with Treyarch today, they give up too easily on things. They have the habit of abandoning stuff for the pass 6 years if the community doesn't like their ideas.
@joshuacapron8358
Ай бұрын
Wait wait wait, hol up. You're telling me Allistair Rhodes APPEARS IN THE DARK AETHER STORYLINE????? I'm asking this as someone who has only completed the ees for Cold War and Vanguard, but not MWIII Zombies yet. Nor have I really kept up with all the hype trailers for BO6. So Chaos does continue after all?????
@CactusInsane
Ай бұрын
@joshuacapron8358 Chaos is now used as a starting point of this new timeline now. It goes from Chaos BO4-Vanguard Zombies-Cold War-BO6-MWZ . Only problem with it is that they never explained nor state what happen to Scarlett or Diego. Just that Allister died by the hands on the Nazis and the Cult managed to give them the device. What device? They never go in details about it and it's never Explain in CW what happen to all the demons and gods from Vanguard. The Whole New Timeline is more screwed up than the OG one.
@joshuacapron8358
Ай бұрын
@@CactusInsane Wow. Just, wow. Here I was, thinking he died from being turned to stone by Medusa, but I guess he got unpetrified off screen just for the Nazis to kill him. I'm assuming that info comes from audio logs in Vanguard or Cold War? And if Chaos really does tie into Dark Aether, then it begs so many questions now. What then happened to not just the gods from Vanguard, but also all the Celtic, Egyptian, Greek, and Nordic mythological influence found in Chaos, along with all the Vampires and Werewolves that Dead of the Night made clear exist in that universe? Let me guess: they're not going to explain those either....
@CactusInsane
Ай бұрын
@@joshuacapron8358According to Audio logs, character quotes, from Vanguard and a bit of Cold War. Basically at some point, Allister destroyed the Artifact in France 1918. Basically the events of Origins happen again just in "Chaos". Some point afterwards the events of WAW zombies take place again except instead of group 935 its the Order aiding the Nazis informing them of the God's and demons. Allister gets captured and killed once they find the source of new power at Shi No Numa for the Device. Again wtf is the device and how is it more powerful than the Artifact from Chaos!? Again they don't explain any of this stuff in Cold War or MWZ. But if you wanna hear something else confusing?MWZ confirmed that The Apothicons are still a thing in the Dark Aether. Thus Comfirming my theory that Nikolais plan was stupid. But yeah they don't really explain anything about these potholes. Even though they said this is supposed to be a new story and timeline😅😂
@RizeF1X
7 күн бұрын
Watching this a month after it came out is crazy. You mention the fact Samantha sounds more German as she gets more corrupted/traumatised. In the Liberty Falls intro, the exact same thing happens to Richtofen
@NiceMusic-e6i
20 сағат бұрын
I agree with you on the story, but not on hating the map, or people hating the map. I think it's crucial to consider the unique nature of video games when evaluating Call of Duty Zombies, especially a map like Origins. Unlike other forms of media such as movies, books, TV shows, or plays, video games prioritize gameplay over storytelling. This is particularly true for a primarily gameplay-focused mode like COD Zombies. While I agree your criticism of the story in Origins, it's important to note that the map's popularity isn't primarily driven by its narrative. Instead, what made Origins beloved was its innovative and engaging gameplay elements. There were so many things in that map that I loved, giant robots, riding the tank across the battlefield, crafting and upgrading elemental staves, calling in devastating missile strikes, facing hordes of zombies in varied environments, the elemental knife, and all of it was in first person. These gameplay elements created a rich, interactive experience that kept players engaged for hours, regardless of the story's quality. The joy of discovering new strategies, mastering the map's mechanics, and overcoming challenges with friends is what truly defined the Origins experience for many players. I do agree, the ending to it was disappointing, but the map itself in terms of gameplay is amazing. It's okay to hate the story for it, I still do and it's not called flip flopping, I think that's true for most fans, they hate the ending, but love the gameplay for it even to this day.
@letastycrumpet
10 күн бұрын
Wow your JFK joke sent me, instant subscription!😂
@joerk992
Ай бұрын
BO4 should just focused on Chaos. 3/4 maps are genuinely strong wit the BO4 system (2 in my top 10 of all time). Aether story is even worse/incoherent
@bruhism173
Ай бұрын
That opening statement is insane, You got my attention and I've rotted my brain.
@nathanslonaker9941
25 күн бұрын
This is such a well written video wtf
@CalvinNoire
2 күн бұрын
Top 10 Video essay openings.
@gamingwithdream2005
24 күн бұрын
What frustrates me the most besides the endings is how little Samantha’s character got. Sure, she was in control of the zombies for two games and a half and she was with us at the end but we genuinely got little of her. We never got a true boss fight against her, you rarely see her interact with any of the crews, hell we only have like four cutscenes with her in it and only two of them involve the true, corrupted Samantha. For a character as important as her, it is a massive misstep to not put more story emphasis on her. And it’s even more frustrating that the version of her that does get a lot of character moments and screentime is her adult self which was uninteresting as hell until she got her powers back after being stuck in the aether which she is again for what’s been like about five years or so. And given how tame they’ve made her even after she got her powers, I don’t think she’ll come back corrupted and we get to explore that. She’ll come back mentally damaged and probably be out of commission which I hope isn’t true given the fact that Ava, her daughter, saw a ghostly vision of her that came out of the dark aether briefly with a dress and a cloak similar to the one she wore as a child.
@221Prohunter
Ай бұрын
This was hilarious, I can feel an inspiration of Scott the Woz in there but it’s 100% your own style. Instant sub.
@kiyotu
18 күн бұрын
“and then the second one hits.” immediate sub and like
@name1585
21 күн бұрын
The longer it’s been the more that I think that the revelations ending was actually pretty good.
@lookatmyzombies9377
20 күн бұрын
I think it was good but it was also like "buy our next game" and you can only pull that one so many times before your budget gets cut and ope you have to half-ass your real ending now
@wkey4dub
Ай бұрын
The only similarities I can find between origins and der eisendrache is that there's 4 wonder weapons...
@DiddlePantsFTW
Ай бұрын
Seriously?
@soleynate
Ай бұрын
@@DiddlePantsFTWtrench warfare ≠ castle
@__TheBlackSwordsman__
23 күн бұрын
Both also have the Panzer zombie bosses.
@blacklight683
16 күн бұрын
Ah it will be a good video when the video starts with 911 and yo dad&mom jokes
@SZ1NA_
Ай бұрын
Finally someone that like the bo3's endong, i also feel itd the best way to end their story, a bitter but satisfying end. Also the joke hit really hard, just as hard as the second plane
@ryanstover8433
Ай бұрын
I personally was okay with the moon ending. Out of all of them it is still the most satisfying to me. (If you cut out all the shit the made up to make it work after the fact)
@ololadin91
28 күн бұрын
15:47 I still hate it 😂 But mostly for its gameplay... But yeah the Origens outro was a major bummer back in the day
@Therex3232
5 күн бұрын
Thinking Origins ending was a “just a dream” ending when it came out was not even something I considered.
@VREMEPLOV1
Күн бұрын
Earned a sub just because I really like your sense of humour; it feels so natural and not corny.
@skylerwarren7300
23 күн бұрын
The only reason why tag works as an ending is simple because of the name of the map, tag de toten or day of the dead, with it capping off the fist map, night of the dead
@lookatmyzombies9377
20 күн бұрын
Someone else mentioned here that it's where the og 4 meet. It's where Pablo was accidentally killed. I'm referring to the radios in call of the dead
@Jephbleach
Ай бұрын
BO4 underperformed and as a result they cut funding and moved on to the next game. If I remember correctly I read that the last two Aether maps were actually outsourced to a smaller Activision studio. It’s a shame because we could’ve gotten more original maps.
@lookatmyzombies9377
20 күн бұрын
What was it Raven software? Vicarious visions? Those are some sub-Activision studios they used to work on destiny too
@dossiebigham9113
Ай бұрын
Can I just say no cap no lie me & drew predicted the ending to origins all the way back in kino... When you go into either version of Samantha's room you see a wooden diorama or play set of Der Reise with shrunk down models of Ulutimus on the floor like they are toys. One of us goes, "I wonder if the story is just Sam playing a game?"
@starryyynightzzz4691
8 күн бұрын
AN OVER THE GARDEN WALL MENTION IN A COD ZOMBIES VID? Never thought I’d live to see the day lol
@nho2x113
2 күн бұрын
very nice video with a lot of nice moments. Really appreciated the work
@Mixu.
Ай бұрын
Unexpected quality. Planning to make more videos of zombies?
@ihyghxstt
Ай бұрын
Dude im not gonna lie id love to talk to you about how much i loved the BO4 ending you seem like you'd have some really interesting counter points of what I've typcially heard
@corgiqueen7656
20 күн бұрын
Man I am just going to say it you give some eggy vibes
@robertfeil1828
6 күн бұрын
This is the greatest explanation of cod zombies succinct just the information you need to know and with some comedy
@void_kmdr
Ай бұрын
Honestly really good video. Keep it up.
@gunsgbb
6 күн бұрын
bro youre gonna be big one day you had me dying laughing the entire video keep it up bro!
@cricker1998
26 күн бұрын
My greatest gripe story-wise, is the fact that MOTD is not it's own thing entirely. It reminded my brother and I of one of our favorite game series called "The Suffering" and it was just so cool to me how unique this map was. And then they screwed it up entirely by making BOTD. I think BOTD is an okay map but it just chaps my ass that they connected everything together like that.
@natus5494
4 күн бұрын
Something people don’t talk about enough is how beautiful it was to have a ww2 American Russian Japanese and nazi work together and somehow made us like the nazi
@MiniorDebry
Ай бұрын
I feel you on the BO4 ending, I hated it when I originally saw it back then. Saw it as justification for me not continuing that game past Ancient Evil... But back looking back now, seeing the fact that budgets got slashed, the game was pushed to release early, that Activision didnt just break their promise to let Treyarch do more then one year of content but also forced them to make Cold War, learning they can no longer have a main zombies cast but they have to use operators in the future... I cant help but feel like the ending wasn't just trying to end the story, but to express their frustration with everything going on at the studio at the time. They tried to find a way, but found there was none and burned it all like Nikolai doing the best they could. I may not like it, but... I can at least respect it.
@AdrX003
Ай бұрын
And yea, as someone who has been with zombies since WaW, Origins had this hate for the ending. Funnily enough at that time it was what made me try TranZit and Die Rise again and prefer their story for letting Zielinski continue the original lore.
@eathan7720
19 күн бұрын
I’m still mad they never did anything REAL with the characters from Bo1. The set up that we’d return to earth with the crew+ Sam would have been interesting and fun. It’s a wild take but I don’t think anything after moon is good story wise. I can enjoy the maps for what they are but strictly story, it was wrong for them to never continue with the set up they left us with on moon.
@Meddyyy
Ай бұрын
It is still the most baffling thing narratively that we do not play as Victis in Alpha Omega and have Ultimis/Primis in Tagg. Seriously, Victis is actually REALLY tied to camp Edward with Russman and Marlton + Stuhlinger having all of his crazy conspiracies being confirmed would’ve been hilarious. Primis and Ultimis get to end ATLEAST on a high note by having that last hurrah rather than just dying in their sleep, plus we can avoid having Samantha having to kill Nikolai for god knows what reason. Seriously, I like Tagg’s ending but that is just so needlessly dark. I understand that in the moment they desperately needed something to catch interest back in the dlc cycle after Dead of the Night and Ancient Evil and used the two crews button. But it still just sucks knowing that in retrospect just swapping the crews around would’ve at the very least taken that sour taste out of our mouth a tad bit.
@CactusInsane
Ай бұрын
It's because Nikolai was set up as the leader since Origins like how Blundell wanted. Remember how important he was throughout BO2-BO4? It's not like he didn't get any character development throughout all 3 games and he totally didn't still act like a stereotype until Blood where he's a completely different person. Then acts like a stereotype again after Blood. Yeah of course Nikolai was a complete idiot. His plan was completely flawed and the fact that GW Richtofen told Nikolai he knew how they can defeat Dr. MONTY but decided, I won't tell you how, you gotta figure that out yourself while reading the Kronuim. You know the book that changes based on how the reader is feeling and can corrupt the readers mind the more they read it. Also isn't the shadow man still in that summoning key? What makes you think he wasn't talking to Nikolai and corrupting his thoughts already. What if that was his idea to destroy the Multiverse and thus freeing him to corrupt this new single universe. You see how easy it was to break part how retarded Nikolai plan was and how he basically doomed the new universe and is the reason Samantha is trapped in the Dark Aether. So in the end the Bad guys won and it's all thanks to the emotionally unstable Russian.
@themanofmovies8104
Ай бұрын
I still have no idea to this day what the point was to having sam shoot Primis Nikolai Like, was Primis Nikolai just being a prick?, like holy shit dude tell the kids to walk off then put the bullet in your own head. It just makes him come off as an asshole and a pussy.
@CactusInsane
Ай бұрын
@@themanofmovies8104 because he was an asshole. they did a complete 180 of his character. From Black Ops 2- BO3 ending. Nikolai had no Character developement at all. The fact that he and Takeo still kept their Stereotype characteristics showed they werent important to Treyarch. But for some weird reason hes all of sudden serious and acting like a prick in Blood. The fact that Nikolai sees himself Superior then everyone else is very bizarrard that even the other characters called him out on in on Blood & Alpha Omega. I would go on a more detail breakdown on how flawed and stupid Nikolais plan was but my Original comment was deleted by the creator.
@sharpshot404
5 күн бұрын
I think I liked everything better when it was just four nutjobs hopping through time killing zombies in places that were crazy experiments.
@0f128
8 күн бұрын
Origins was always a beloved map, the ending was hated since the community thought it was kids playing
@TheRealdraudE
Күн бұрын
You have the qualities of a young tim hansen, soilder on sir
@masteryadiel
25 күн бұрын
I feel like bo4's ending was good, if a bit bleak Cold War actually had a solid ending that i hope gets the right treatment in bo6 Vanguard didnt even have an ending lmao
@nickgolo4870
Ай бұрын
I don’t remember having a single negative conversation about origins outside of the awful ending
@spaceghosttoast
26 күн бұрын
Yeah this guy is a fucking schizo old head lol only people who didn't like origins were WaW old heads who didn't like how big the map was and how activating generators was necessary for PaP. You'd be hard pressed to find a single video from a content creator at the time disliking origins, everyone loved it and how cool it was, it felt truly unique compared to a lot of the rest of the maps, it's not like CoD content wasn't huge back their either, Bo2 was prime for lots of CoDtubers.
@ThePongo
5 күн бұрын
Bro that jfk being behind the scope was so fucking funny
@DanBrown-rw2kk
Ай бұрын
“Then the second one hits” got me choking on my water 🤣
@johnwhittington2998
25 күн бұрын
My theory on why they were late to escape Alcatraz that weasel managed to break the cycle in this instance on the bridge
@Istreakilaz
12 күн бұрын
Never forget Richtofen (adult) deserved better for all his effort. The good AND the bad
@Jack_Heslin
Ай бұрын
To me, the story started at Nacht and ended at Moon. I was 15 when BO2 came out and spent the summer before doing odd jobs to make enough money to buy the hardened edition just for Nuketown zombies and boy, what a fucking disappointment. I couldn't give a fuck about the Tranzit crew, mob was okay but Origins was the final nail in the coffin. The fact that they set it in WW1 with only 2 weapons from that war was retarded. Watching the trailer and seeing german soldiers with MP40s and STG44s was hilarious.
@PowuhToSeven
Ай бұрын
The amount of missing weapons is ridiculous. Especially in BO3 when they basically replace the Tommy gun with a weevil or something generic.
@JagmasterGeneral12374
Ай бұрын
Mob of the dead is personally my second favorite map of all time but b02 is definitely a mixed bag
@soleynate
Ай бұрын
@@JagmasterGeneral12374bo2 zombies r terrible lmao mob was the only good map
@juanyeat859
Ай бұрын
Mob of the dead saved bo2 the game wouldve been so shit
@connorwimer7467
6 күн бұрын
BO3 was like when the one tower had been hit but it’s been a while since that and your like “Well we still got this one sick ass tower still” then BO4 comes in and no more towers 😢
@Shapeshiftergreen
28 күн бұрын
Do you plan on making more essay-like content? I'd like to hear what you thought about Cold War. P.S. It's really funny finding a new channel with a video analysing something and the rest of their videos are straight up gaming, lol. Love the video!
@tomswarder4313
Ай бұрын
Something kinda cool but overlooked about the bo4 zombies ending. While it was disappointing in some ways in bittersweet in other canonically it created our new current all in 1 warzone timeline. If people havent realized by now, zombies, campaign and the story of warzone are no longer seperated and exist within 1 timeline
@ocklyrajab7177
14 күн бұрын
The problem was we missing the final piece: KN44 & dimensional box
@Phantom-wt9kq
18 күн бұрын
Bro this entire video was gasss lotta funny parts that made me laugh especially the ending 🥹it's not over yet there's still hope🎉
@beach7138
22 күн бұрын
I never hated Origins or met anyone that hated Origins
@Cipher215
21 күн бұрын
bo2 ending was not a dream it lit takes place at the same time GK does
@feelgoodink5005
21 күн бұрын
I was surprised how mush I laughed during this video. Your funny definitely better then most in this genre of content.
@roninkahn4033
Ай бұрын
Why not just merge the multiverse instead of destroying it and prior to doing so sending the paradoxical elements like 115 agartha etc. Itd be pretty easy in terms of writing. Incalculable amounts of people will die for a higher purpose but a new better world will still be around. The new versions of the characters couldve been living a mix of the lives they wanted to live.
@vSIG_
20 күн бұрын
Honestly it felt like origins/b03 was always ment to be its own plotline contained to itself and not have this big multiversal meetup with victis/ultimus and ill die on this hill. Anything B03 did right feels undercut by how much of a car crash b04 was. I really think its the worst run on the principle of it being a giant shit smear on the narrative.
@bigdrippy4104
11 күн бұрын
I think you’re forgetting that when BO2 came out, everyone hated Victis and was fucking stoked when Origins came out and brought back the original cast in some capacity. I think that’s a big reason as to why the Victis story ends at “richtofen and maxis duke it out for control and there’s a decision and we see nothing else”
@smallelf
Ай бұрын
if u listen to the radios on call of the dead they talk ab how it was where rictofen did experments on nik tank pablo and tak, making it basically where their connection all begins which kinda fits why it ends there
@starryyynightzzz4691
8 күн бұрын
I just remember booting up black ops 3 for the first time, excited to see what shadows of evil would bring and going “oooo ok 1920’s-30’s theme cool…. Wait, are those aliens?? Is this still a zombies mode?” After that I just knew the story took a complete 180 from what we had had with the Nazis and stuff
@Paul-lp5pu
4 күн бұрын
Can confirm, the ending of Origins violently pissed me off. It completely eroded my interest in the CoD zombies story in a way that kinda never recovered.
@raven75257
6 күн бұрын
Zombies will NEVER be over. For one simple reason. Zombies brings a lot of money to Microsoft. They will never let their cashcow go
@deacon6221
24 күн бұрын
I’ve found my crowd. The zombies story post Buried, suckssss. I hate the multiverse plots involving time travel and this other garbage. The silly Nazi, Soviet, and American experiment plot was so much more interesting and fresh.
@tg71
12 күн бұрын
Thank you for this. I'm 32 and I did a lot of KZitem content through bo1-3 and this video finally gave me closure.
@lukehanson6077
23 күн бұрын
wait what do you mean 3.24k subs this is good content
@elijahmugrage
20 күн бұрын
I have no idea who you are, but I am so thankful the algorithm graced me with one of your videos. You are genuinely SO funny and you handled this topic SO well! The one thing I will say though, is that as shitty as the previous games endings were, at least they left some kind of mystery still intact and were executed well. EVERYTHING from BO4 onward ending-wise has been horseshit. Poor execution, poor writing, poor conclusions. ZOMBIES DESERVED BETTER! Aaanyways, I subscribed to your channel and am eagerly awaiting your next upload. Good stuff, dude!
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