Most aircraft retract gear to reduce drag. Viggen retracts the gear so it can fly lower ;)
@yappydawg8985
Ай бұрын
Similar concept to your "Balloon Goes Up" series but a completely different set of tactics. Sounds interesting.
@Sidekick65
Ай бұрын
That's the idea
@shinobi61
Ай бұрын
Love viggen, Love the vids / series!
@Sidekick65
Ай бұрын
Glad to hear it
@renhanxue
Ай бұрын
This will be interesting! A minor nitpick though: the Swedish army didn't really consider the Torne river important and was not planning on using it as a line of defense to any great extent. Since the population up here is so sparse, almost all the the troops allocated to the defense of this part of the country (and in the 1980's we're talking at least 4-5 infantry brigades, two independent tank battalions, quite a bit of artillery, plus a whole bunch of independent ranger battalions) would have to be transported from the south and as such the mobilization was expected to take several days. Because of this the Torne river was considered to be "a bridge too far" to defend - the Home Guard group commanders up there were authorized to blow up the bridges on their own authority, but after that they were expected to only make some token delaying actions before fading into the forest. Instead the real defense in depth started one river further west, at the Kalix river. There the military spent a lot of effort on fixed fortifications, the "Kalix line", with several artillery forts blasted into mountaintops (using old naval guns from decommissioned ships), tank traps, bunkers, road sections prepared for demolition, etc etc.There was also a secondary line of defense even further west, along the Lule river. The zone of operations only really stretched as far north as Gällivare; north of there the infrastructure did not allow for anything but independent ranger forces with very little heavy equipment. The main objective of the Swedish forces up here would be to hold Boden. It is and was an important garrison town but also housed the air defense center for the region and it sits on a railway junction that is the main connection to the rest of the country. Losing Boden would mean having to give up everything north of it because everything would be supplied from there. The Soviet objective was expected to be the Norwegian harbors and probably the railway line Luleå-Narvik. Before 1984 there was no road Kiruna-Narvik (current E10), only the railroad (the Iron Ore Line). You touched on it, but it's worth noting that the Swedish army counted on the Soviets trying to break through and push past the Swedish lines; the Swedish forces had standing orders that any unit that was isolated or behind enemy lines was to immediately transition to the "independent war" (sv. "fria kriget"). The chain of command was generally highly decentralized since the planners greatly feared a scenario like that in Norway or Denmark in April 1940. The propaganda stated for decades that "any message that claims the mobilization has been cancelled is false", and later "any message that claims the resistance has ended is false". If the mobilization order was given the entire system would start rolling on its own and be very hard to stop.
@Sidekick65
Ай бұрын
Thanks. Great info.
@FasterLower
Ай бұрын
Gimme Gimme Gimme more Viggen
@Jockesse
Ай бұрын
As you mentioned, the Swedish pilots were expected to perform better than the Soviet pilots. The Swedish Airforce trained their pilots hard. Not without losses. Huge losses. The training enviroment were to be as realistic as possible. That resulted in a lot of losses of both pilots and aircrafts. During the cold war Sweden lost 550 pilots. A Big number for the size of Sweden. Especially in peacetime. I believe it is one of the most lost in peacetime. I think the West Germany had a similar experience with their losses of Starfighters and pilots due to their hard and realistic training. But not to the same extent.
@Sidekick65
Ай бұрын
Very interesting. I did not realize that but it makes sense.
@timothymorgan8254
Ай бұрын
this is what ive been waiting for
@Sidekick65
Ай бұрын
Good to know. Thanks.
@khdgermany
Ай бұрын
Very well done research and telling the story! Appreciate your work and the video, looking forward to what is coming. Thank you!
@Sidekick65
Ай бұрын
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback.
@simtaylor61
4 күн бұрын
Question: Are these summer tactics and strategy, or general over tactics and stategy? I ask this because you said the Russian supply lines would be consigned to paved roads. IF the attack came, say late January or early February, wouldn't the terrain itself be frozen solid enough to support an advance on a wide front? Worked the oilfield up at Fort Nelson BC for a while. They had to let the muskeg to freeze hard enough so that the drilling rigs wouldn't sink in the swamp. I'm wondering if Northern Sweden isn't the same way, and would afford the Soviets an opportunity to attack on a broad front. In such a case that would be a game changer for the scenario. I'm not saying they'd put supply points out in the middle of nowhere, but the tactic of dropping bridges and other transport infrastructure would not be nearly as effective
@DCS_World_Japan
Ай бұрын
Is it just me or is the Viggen's left main gear floating off the ground? Unrelated to the amazing content, but couldn't help noticing it.
@Sidekick65
Ай бұрын
Yes, it is. It has been noted by a few people.
@julianmorrisco
Ай бұрын
Watching this, something struck me. Think about the fact that nobody, even the Russians, seriously planned for a NATO attack heading East. NATO tanks were defensive by design, Russian tanks offensive. The serious plans, on both sides, were always assuming an attack from the East. Through the Fulda gap or maybe further south. Now. Who are the imperialists?
@patrikstrandquist1875
Ай бұрын
Very interesting topic. Just to shine a little more light on the topic. During this era, Sweden had the conscript system. This made almost every adult male part of the defence forces. Outside of those units you had the "home guard", soldiers who had all their personel equipment at home. Insuring a very fast deployment to defend key locations and objectives. There where tank regiments using the Strv 103 (s-tank) that was a very capable defensive tank. 2 Jäger regementes, that would conduct sabotage operations. And much much more =)
@Sidekick65
Ай бұрын
Thank you! Very helpful. You are right I have only scatched the surface. But ALL of that is important if you want to understand what the Viggen was designed to do...
@ThePizzaGoblin
Ай бұрын
Ooooh very interesting! Cant wait to see where this goes! You should do something similar with a bunch of other aircraft
@Sidekick65
Ай бұрын
Yes. We'll I was looking for a way to spend all that free time I have. Hah! Actually, it's an approach I look forward to applying to more aircraft - especially ones that seem to be misunderstood in DCS. The Kola map has some interesting opportunities for the Harrier, for instance. BUT one (or two) things at a time.
@atempestrages5059
Ай бұрын
Very keen for this!
@jubuttib
Ай бұрын
I take slight exception to saying "all their neighbors had been invaded AND occupied", feels like that should have been an "or". But at least later you say that Finland was just invaded... =)
@Sidekick65
Ай бұрын
So noted. My apologies for the descrepancy.
@jubuttib
Ай бұрын
@@Sidekick65 Hehe no worries, the intention was clear. =)
@thunderace4588
Ай бұрын
Thank you Iain.
@lionelbowhunter468
Ай бұрын
Very interesting! Thx Iain :)
@Sidekick65
Ай бұрын
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
@ShtrikeBirb
Ай бұрын
looking forward for this!
@Dionysus2009
Ай бұрын
I would love to fly the Viggen with you guys but I just don't want to purchase Kola until it's done and optimized. 140GB is insane
@swedihgame
Ай бұрын
It is a really big map so 140gb might actually be lower than what the map will end up with, remember they have only detailed a part on the map about as big as caucasus map
@OCinneide
Ай бұрын
Yes! Pity I've just moved and don't have my kit setup.
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