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@kang8179
2 жыл бұрын
More of these please. Just found out your channel, and it is really helping me with my public anxiety 🙂👍!
@frankiecicero8742
Жыл бұрын
Subscribed your welcome & thank you ❤
@stinksterrekerinski4450
2 жыл бұрын
Tyson's vulnerability shows he has knowledge of his anger- he is able to be hurt. Burr shows a facade that he cannot be hurt- but we all know differently.
@sethchandler4170
2 жыл бұрын
My advice for Tyson would be nothing. He handled it perfectly. I love straight forward people. He didn't dance around anything. Bill doesn't have to reveal anything. He just has to internalize that he is more aware than he believes and that he is consciously hiding things. A perfect move by Tyson.
@OP-lk4tw
Жыл бұрын
yea, bill is smart enough to know if tyson tries to pull off some trick like talking about his past so he opens up
@Warriorsruach
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not often a fan of "react" videos, but yours are a different caliber; there's something to learn here! I love the content and subject matter. Great stuff Alex!
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that, Christopher. I'm trying to add some educational value to these and your comment is encouraging in that way. Thank you.
@iowafamilyexoticsrescue6637
2 жыл бұрын
Ya his are “analyze” more than “react” and that’s 100% the way I learn. Like “ok tell me what I should’ve learned from that” haha appreciate this guy.
@powerboon2k
2 жыл бұрын
this is my type of reaction video. 'Singing coach reacts to Metallica' is about as far from this as it can get.
@cliffnickerson2299
2 жыл бұрын
Burr has talked about a lot of issues from his childhood in a humorous way for years. It may be difficult to discuss the same things in a more serious context. (I'm sure it would be for me.) I'm blown away by Tyson's evolution as a person in the public eye. He's showing a level of depth and vulnerability recently that I hadn't associated with him. I think Burr and Tyson spent years living as over-blown parodies of themselves. It's cool to see this part of their process. I love your speaking advice. I frequently use it in my own public speaking classes.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Good insights, Cliff. Thanks for your contribution. I'm glad my videos have been helpful for you.
@aleksisuuronen5969
Жыл бұрын
Serious context but also in public on top of it. I Think, Burr would have answered more honestly to the root of it in private setting, but still spin it into a joke and kinda try to lean away from the subject
@suigenris
2 жыл бұрын
I think Tyson’s insights are spot on, which isn’t too surprising if you think about how extreme Tyson lived. He’s used all the tricks we all use on ourselves but at a different level. My suggestion for Tyson is engaging rather than pushing. Instead of “No, no, no…” and directly challenging, allowing Bill to be right in his assessments. It doesn’t have to be insincere but it allows them to align and face the monster of a temper together. To simplify, a ‘Yes, and’ question rather than a ‘No, but’ position…. Let Burr be right, and let him agree with you.
@bovinejonie3745
2 жыл бұрын
I love how Tyson says, "we're not hiding" rather than "you're not hiding".
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
I've been surprised a lot by Tyson lately. I've heard he also had a one-man talking show on Broadway (and now in Vegas???) that was also really solid. I never would have predicted that based upon watching him come up in boxing.
@bovinejonie3745
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderlyon His intelligence is exceptional; especially when considering long-term effects of his career choice. Back to my original comment: He almost initiated that reciprocity you mentioned at the end. He just quickly lost it and instead put Bill in a corner that Bill brilliantly squeezed out of in true comedian fashion.
@Dwg256
2 жыл бұрын
16.11.2021.
@kyleolin3566
2 жыл бұрын
Instead of asking “who hurt you?” Tyson could have asked a less direct comment, such as “I was hurt when I was younger, that’s what made me angry”.
@Harkness197
2 жыл бұрын
Tyson calling out Bill changing the topic by calling him clever was hilarious
@siwardwoudstra1751
2 жыл бұрын
My advice: 'You are born to be real not to be perfect' I think Tyson did well. As did Burr. Awkward silences can be undervalued, society is becoming far to sterile which leads to the social exclusion of clumsy people.
@siwardwoudstra1751
2 жыл бұрын
@@sprucecln Take notice that what I said stands in the context of what I said at first: 'You are born to be real, not to be perfect'. Why would you want to exclude people who are real but clumsy? And what difference does it make compared to excluding people on the basis of their skin color, religion or handicap? As MLK said it okay to be judged on the content of your character. What other reason would you want to exclude people?
@Psyshimmer
2 жыл бұрын
@@siwardwoudstra1751 do you mean socially clumsy (tactless, lacking awareness) people?
@siwardwoudstra1751
2 жыл бұрын
@@Psyshimmer In short: Yes. That seems to me the fitting meaning of this word in regard to how Tysons questions Burr. It can be seen as lacking some tact but it is - as far as I can see - completely genuine. Thanks for asking! I didn't realize that this could be unclear.
@rationalcase
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating! I feel that I learned something new about each of these people (and myself) from these couple of minutes and your brief analysis Alex Thank you.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for the positive comment.
@JuneEBug-gy6nt
2 жыл бұрын
I think Mike doesn’t care about his reputation, he’s always been talked about negatively, although also positively. Mike doesn’t curb his feelings to support his reputation, therefore he speaks his unfiltered thoughts. Bill walks that line, but it does seem like he holds onto an goal of acceptance which holds him back from saying exactly what he thinks, even if it’s only 5%. I hope to see him drop that tiny filter he has left. That last 5% is the most important part of comedy/informative conversation
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting insight, June. I wouldn't have initially thought about Burr having any filter at all but I think it's accurate to say that Tyson will say virtually anything to anyone at any time. Good point.
@RobVaderful
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderlyon I think that Mike did not want too get more informations but initiate some thinking in Bill. And Bill was right to say," I am not as far as You..." Maybe because Mike has gone through more therapy then the most of us he can see things, that happened to himself, in the behaviour and the eyes of others. I am fighting with PTSD and sometimes when I meet strangers I see their internal struggles. They behave like I did, when the anger was taking over or could be barely supressed. Youre videos are alwys very interesting and educative, thanks for that. Greetings from germany.
@lean4real_11
2 жыл бұрын
@@RobVaderful its cool that you can see that stage of life (the anger and stuff) that you went through, in other people. i hope you are using that awareness to help people along, who may not be in the same stage of healing as you are, to reach that point
@RobVaderful
2 жыл бұрын
@@lean4real_11 The best advise I can give is...seek professional help, when your tesla explodes you dont search for the screwdriver but for the firebrigade.
@pork8829
2 жыл бұрын
That may be a product of years of confiding in people you should be able to trust (close family and friends) and despite how much you stress the importance of it being between me and you, they still tell others. This was my experience, I used to be hurt each time I gave someone a chance and several 2nd chances to be trusted, but I guess you can only take so much bc when I was about 18 I just accepted that I cannot expect trust and that everything I say is public domain, so there was no longer a reason to be mad or hurt when I confided my personal struggles to someone and hear other people talking about it. I'm just a guy trying to figure myself out, some struggle more than others, but everyone struggles, so why feel shame if people know I've also struggled?
@Steve-ec6ed
2 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy I watch the same videos as a communication professor. I feel pretty sophisticated right now.
@DL1986DL
2 жыл бұрын
Tyson knew exactly what happened, just like every other savage that has experienced the same thing. Tyson just wanted him to know that he is not alone.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's part of it, no doubt. I think it's impossible to come out of that conversation (from Burr's view) and not feel as if Tyson would not be judgmental about any of it since he's clearly had lots of pain. Good point and thanks for commenting.
@MrAlmaguin
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree totally: self disclosure would be a major key, with Tyson showing a method of opening up by also not naming names in his personal anecdote. Good clip, thanks.
@jeffreycollins7297
2 жыл бұрын
That was an uppercut for the mind from Mike. He just let it rip on Bill. I totally agree that you need to share yourself first, even a little and the other guy will reciprocate. THANKS!!!
@MrFrussel
2 жыл бұрын
A thing I always do when talking about personal stuff, is really trying to put myself in the shoes of others. When someone talks superficially about a problem, I try to imagine and hypothisize what kind of influence this would have on me. This way I demonstrate I'm willing to put in the work when dealing with the problems of my conversation partner. When I've proven myself being able to deal with their problem, they mostly open up to me.
@vincentorsini
2 жыл бұрын
This was a really interesting video. I watched this interview before watching your video and being a fan of Burr as well as Tyson, I do have some observations. First, Tyson is an incredibly imposing figure. He has an aggressive presence, not only physically but also through his body language and reputation. If Jim Gaffigan was the interviewer, he could have posed the same question with the same verbiage and I'm sure it would simply roll off Bill's back. So that's one point I have to make. Also, I found Tysons interviewing style to be uncomfortably aggressive. He seems to get argumentative when his observations are dismissed or stepped-around. Part of the joy of watching interviews like this, is you know what to expect: a couple comedians joking around, maybe there will be some deeper talk, but it's usually glossed over for the laughs. And usually, the interviewer is flexible and will adapt to the guest. Tyson isn't having any of this. He wants to have go straight to the heart of the issue and he's very dismissive of Bill's seemingly honest attempts at explaining himself. I found all of this very uncomfortable. IMO this isn't how you conduct an interview/podcast. Granted it's given us some good content, but I still feel yucky after watching. You can also tell that Jeremy Piven is very aware of what's happening and is trying to act as a diffuser. I don't know if Bill was supposed to be the main guest, but with Piven acting like a "good cop" and Tyson aggressively leaning into whatever trauma caused Bill to develop anger problems, the focal point becomes Bill. He becomes the center of attention the whole podcast.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Insightful points, Vincent. Thank you for sharing.
@Kultmannen
2 жыл бұрын
If there is one guy in the world, I enjoy seeing make other people uncomfortable, it is Mike Tyson. And it´s good that not every interviewer in the world does things exactly the same way. Altough there was one moment, where he was a bit quick to dismiss, where it seemed as if Burr was going to open up a little bit. But got pushed a little to much:P Still, I enjoyed the interview:)
@David-R.
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree with you 100% and I already knew that. I just used this technique with my nephew a couple of days ago. Once I told him that I have been hurt in that past, fell in love and cried over girls that I loved he opened up and told me about his thoughts and feelings and how hurt he was. People are afraid to be judged and looked down on as being gullible or weak, but when you tell them about your own weak, and gullible, moments and how you overcame them, they will trust that you won't judge them and they'll tell you about their struggle and trust in your advice. The only advice I'd give Tyson is to keep doing what he's doing :) I love that guy.
@nwren4637
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about Tyson, outside the most shallow knowledge regarding his past escapades. Over the years, he's said some incredibly insightful things that have floored me. This is a great example of that.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, he's been surprising a lot of people in the last few years.
@zhaoliang4217
Жыл бұрын
He did shameful things. Bit a man’s ear off in front of a billion of people. Beat his wife. Raped at least one whom, accused of more. Alcohol, drugs, anger, brutal fights outside the ring. But he did his time and seems to have worked on his demon, like legitimately.
@CasualDandyAkaSqwrty
2 жыл бұрын
If we view this as a negotiation, some of the most powerful questions in a negotiation are How and What-type questions. Giving a personal example of what hurt Tyson may be paired well with a question like this: "I was hurt this way by my father, what could have hurt you like that?" I love the dynamic of men helping men in a healthy way. Even if Tyson didn't hit a home run, his energy is in the right place and I like the space he creates.
@CasualDandyAkaSqwrty
2 жыл бұрын
Chris Voss's book on Never Split the Difference-style negotiating is a great read/listen. It makes conversations like the one above seem like it has clearly defined rules.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Good insights!
@justtrollinalong977
2 жыл бұрын
I think its just interesting that people give Tyson a lot of crap, but honestly he is very insightful and deep. It's amazing what you dont know about a person.
@clarencewhite1219
2 жыл бұрын
Agree that Tyson could have led Bill into a reciprocity. Also, mentioning "secrets" can immediately paint a person into a closed space. Maybe a lighter more empathetic tone. For example. "Sometimes we stuggle, as we know more and stive to know more about ourslves. But sometimes there is that A-HA moment. Would you agree?"
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, good points, Clarence.
@stonegrit
2 жыл бұрын
It's a short clip so we don't really know if they continued the conversation. The other point is Mike is not a therapist but he has a lot of wisdom. I am sure some therapist will also reflect after the therapy and might think they should have asked this & that. Not all boxer's are great or therapist's
@pw5803
2 жыл бұрын
Tyson could have give Burr an escape-route in the question instead of pin him to the wall. He could have said; "Often we redirect our anger on things instead of the real cause. And often anger stands for feelings of being hurt. Do you recognize any of that?" or "Are you still in the process of figure out where the anger comes from?" And like you said, chare an experience of his own. I think that Piven (?) saved Burr by saing that they dragged him out on deep water. It gave Burr a bit of space. The question from Tyson was very deep and true but not suited for a podcast. It would have required Burr to be totaly comfortable and finished with his anger - issue and he said that he hadn't came that far.
@Rayan.Choukri
2 жыл бұрын
If you're a Bill Burr fan, you'd know that the source of his anger and pain comes from his dad.
@Fibonaccisghost
2 жыл бұрын
All I can say is that if someone asked me "who hurt you?" on a public show like that, I'd be very put off by how presumptuous a question like that is. It irks me when I hear people push themselves in my inner life that I don't invite them into. Not everyone is entitled to know our hurts and pains. I think it's fair and wise to be selective about who we share those things with. It's naive to think no one will use that against you or abuse that knowledge that isn't necessary for the world to know.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
That makes sense. As I mentioned, there are lots of potential risks that come with self-disclosure and you have brought up a really important one. Once we put that information out there, it's possible somebody could somehow use it against us.
@Fidyg1
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you I always try to remember I'm not an idiot for trusting someone they are in the wrong for breaking my trust and try not to hold it against others. I also like to give diff pepole info about me and see were it leads to just to vet them
@emushow9315
2 жыл бұрын
I hear ya but Bill had already disclosed the source of his anger to be his tough up-bringing and he kinda took after his dad so...
@Fibonaccisghost
2 жыл бұрын
@@emushow9315 Which I think is a sufficient and cordial answer for the situation. Tyson wanted to push him further though and that struck me as inappropriate and presumptive.
@emushow9315
2 жыл бұрын
@@FibonaccisghostBut Bill didnt say that in that podcast, im referring to his older standup bits and F is for family series. I know Mike cudve done his research but he is not expected to have known everything abt Bill, thats why he asked.
@theingridaria
2 жыл бұрын
Thx for teaching us the Johari's Window tool, it's so interesting! Tyson is a Manifestor in HD. He's made to start uncomfortable conversations 🔥
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Thans, ingrid. It's a really helpful tool. I use it as a lens to look at my life all of the time.
@michele3631
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis 👏. I'm learning a lot about myself and my own blind spots in through these reaction videos.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Michele. I'm glad the videos are helpful.
@matthewmulrine
2 жыл бұрын
Tyson is a fighter, which is how he approached the conversation - like a friendly sparring match. He's feeling Burr out, pushing him to get a sense of who he is as a person, how he will react when backed into a corner. Mike wants to see who Burr is underneath all the facade. Burr realised he had knowhere to go, he wasn't going to face Mike head on and he wasn't going to show too much vulnerability in public. So, he let Mike know he understood where he was coming from, showed him respect and that he wouldn't fight. But, Burr also showed Mike he wouldn't be pulled in too deep. Mike isn't trying to change Burr in the conversation, if anything he's trying to wake up what is already there buried within Burr.
@JayKanella
2 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent analysis. Nice
@Rafu_Aeru
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone's got a temper until Iron Mike wants to know the cause of it.
@jerrygraves6531
2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@mikederucki
2 жыл бұрын
It’s Bills dad…I’ve listened to about 10 years of the MM podcast
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
I figured as much because I've heard him reference his dad a bunch, too. It's interesting to see how comedians and other people who go on shows will sometimes talk about stuff on stage or their own podcast but not so much in interviews. I think in this case, the conversational dynamics hadn't warmed up yet and Tyson's approach was too direct. But, yes, like many of us, our dads shape us for better or worse.
@emanmoba
2 жыл бұрын
it must be the "I put you through the f***** wall"
@fightfreak350
2 жыл бұрын
Love the breakdown. It's nice to hear these things verbalized so well.
@seekthetruth824
2 жыл бұрын
I have watched a lot of interviews with Tyson as a boxing fan, and the guy is definitely one of the deepest, and more importantly, most open people i have watched, extremely rare of an average Joe, and super extremely rare in a celebrity. no pretense.
@PhiTonics
2 жыл бұрын
My take: like you said comedians are extremely self aware, no doubt bill was doing calculations in that moment, and I think he gave us the answer he wanted, and didn't revial what the source is for a personal reason, fair. I think if Mike wanted to press it slightly he needed to catch that moment and after the short laugh about phones, bring it back and ask him "you said you know now, do you want to talk about that?" It was a very quick comment that needed to be held in place and addressed again, a gold nugget. Then we would have perhaps gotten a more direct no or yes kind of story. Having multiple people in the room makes it difficult to hold the energy in place, and especially if you have a comedian there, they will do what they do best. Great breakdown.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty impressive, Ian. You picked up on some nice nuances and your advice sounds solid. I'm betting that would have helped.
@Christopher_Bachm
2 жыл бұрын
This looks interesting. Congratulations!
@kathym656
2 жыл бұрын
You can't force people to open up, but you can make them regret coming on your show. Other potential guests might see this extra force & decide not to sign up for this.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting point, Kathy. If people know they'll be pushed really hard, then they might pass on the invite.
@mcbride162
2 жыл бұрын
Please do one of jen psaki doing press conference 🙏
@AfroVersity
2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I subscribed to this channel. My communication skills needs work clearly.
@rkcco1031
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how these videos landed in my related ones but now I’m bingeing them lol. I love hearing your takes and you are giving great advice, thank you!
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@savedgesurvive
2 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel. I like it. You don't appear to show or have any bias in what your saying. Your also checking out clips from people I have an interest in watching, but also clips from people I would normally not watch and I still find it interesting.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Thanks for your encouragement.
@joemoonraker
2 жыл бұрын
As soon as i saw that clip i needed to seek it out and hear the whole conversation. For Mike to have picked up on the subtleness of Bills deflection and realize what a clever, conditioned mechanism he has for dealing with a confrontation like this is impressive. I think the mushrooms had something to do with it. I wonder sometimes if there might not be a place for it as a possible aid for emotional or psychological trauma. Mikes ego was on the brink but bills walls were standing strong.
@livestock9722
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the new insight into the Johari's Window. Personally, being rightfully accused of lacking tact and to the point on delivery, I would have done as Tyson did. Cut right into the meat. That said, I strive to communicate better and appreciate your suggestions.
@Ash_Hudson
2 жыл бұрын
100% it's resentment from the way he was raised by his father.
@threearrows2248
2 жыл бұрын
Wow I just fell in love with Mike Tyson. What a special guy.
@Thesaurcery4U2C
Жыл бұрын
From the most viscous, to the most kind man on the planet.
@ABC-yt1nq
Жыл бұрын
My take is that Mike - who made his professional reputation by knowing when an opponent has been dominated - knew that by giving Burr that solid verbal jab, he had made his point with Burr, but instead of then knocking him out, Mike soothed everything with that line. And yes, to have seen Tyson in his guise as the most terrifying fighter on the planet throwing punches and then evolving to reveal the person with the innocence of a child offering up a "silly goose" has been a gift.
@loladelon5648
2 жыл бұрын
This is so good! Thank you!
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome, Lola. I'm glad it resonated.
@gmoney5947
2 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson has come full circle. For no schooling the man knows many things.
@rao180677
2 жыл бұрын
Mike did on the interview what we did on ring. Straight to the point. Love Mike. If Mike said that to me I would feel uncomfortable but would also respect him.
@PalebobUK
2 жыл бұрын
Bill is well aware of his own demons, he harnesses them in his comedy, he uses his own irritability to create his content. But he would prefer to keep those demons private, that is why he redirects, in my opinion.
@iandixon7641
2 жыл бұрын
Mikes a clever person man.
@pitrs101
2 жыл бұрын
Great content Alex! Your channel grows in healthy way, bringing insight to the table, fan from first videos of yours!
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Petr. I'm encouraged to hear that you've been a fan from the early days. Thanks for commenting and letting me know.
@niloo_atribecalledlove
2 жыл бұрын
The depth of the initial question was beyond him. The rest is a series of not figuring out the first question 🔥🤘🏽 And Burr said it, Tyson is more evolved. ❤️❤️❤️
@WhitneyHaverstock
2 жыл бұрын
At Thanksgiving I had an amazing conversation with an uncle who seemed previously closed off, robotic, overly measured. (He's 'problem smart' I call it) Turns out he's a normal human being with thoughts and feelings and stuff. After 40 years on this planet I'm finally maybe learning how to *really* talk to people.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. I'm glad that was a good conversation for you.
@x4ms
2 жыл бұрын
Mike is so sweet here.
@devilhunter6192
2 жыл бұрын
The only issue was he did it on the podcast, when he saw how uncomfortable burr was after he asked who hurt you he should've said something like "you dont have to tell me but if you want to we can talk after the show" that Way it gives burr a way out and makes him feel more comfortable
@lornemalvo4492
2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I feel like I have a decent sense of psychology but your final advice to Tyson is so obvious yet deep down I know it'd be effective. Great advice
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Lorne. I'm glad it was helpful for you.
@dixiebell689
Жыл бұрын
Mike's smart Enuf to know bill wasn't going to spill his guts then and there. It was brilliant to keep it light to create a positive space about a intense personal issue. What it did for Bill is later on it gives him the ok & the confidence to bring the boogieman up to consciousness and look at it clearly in the face. It terrific what ur doing thank you.
@alexanderlyon
Жыл бұрын
Good insights.
@khatharrmalkavian3306
2 жыл бұрын
Tyson's not a therapist. Burr didn't go there for therapy. He asked Burr to open up and Burr said no. Let it be.
@zdiddy4112
2 жыл бұрын
Tyson took some good mushrooms before this, and I'm not sure if Bill knew how deep Tyson likes to dive in his Podcast, but shrooms brought it to another level. Bill has been talking about his anger for years and self searching so Im not sure if he's truly found the source, and while I hope for his sake that he does, it is also one of the things that drives his comedy and makes him one of the G.O.A.T.s in my opinion. It was such a treat seeing two G.O.A.T.s in the same room, choppin it up, and yes, hearing Iron Mike call Billy Big Balls a silly goose is a gift from God. Love the videos, keep em coming. God Bless
@kylepomeroyk-pom5499
2 жыл бұрын
Just the fact that the killer that is mike Tyson is using phrases like “ you know why your angry you a silly goose “ 😭😂🔥
@staszekstaszku7152
2 жыл бұрын
Man i just love your videos
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Staszek. I appreciate your encouragement.
@danieldykes6446
2 жыл бұрын
Who knew Tyson could be so insightful?
@orderofeden8599
2 жыл бұрын
Self disclosure is good, and I also think Tyson’s big mistake was pushing the idea of “who hurt you?” If he had asked what Burr thought was the root, or how’s he’s trying to figure these things out it may have been better. His anger may have nothing to do with an individual who hurt him anyway. People can be angry for all sorts of reasons- impatience, false expectations, self-loathing. Tyson introduced a frame that may or may not be true, and by pushing it I think he shut down the conversation
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@StephanieChelemengos
2 жыл бұрын
If you have seen any of Bill's standups you know he got his temper from his father. He used to pick fights with his mother and then run out. So on the one hand he has issues with his father because his father made the kids feel like it was their fault their father was unhappy, but he also is upset that his mother never stood up to his dad.
@its_rick_james_bich2575
2 жыл бұрын
My advice to Tyson if I spoke to him in person… “Excellent insight into human self disclosure. I have learnt something very valuable today. I have absolutely nothing negative to say about you, especially as I’ve grown accustomed to using my jaw to help me chew food and talk”
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Probably a wise decision! Ha. Thanks for posting.
@dragasan
2 жыл бұрын
I've been a Bill Burr fan since his first stand up special and was lucky enough to have seem him live in April, 2017. Based on everything I've heard him say, including on his podcast and on "F is for Family", I have a pretty good idea how he was hurt, but I'm no professional, so I won't say it here. My advice to Mike Tyson would have been to watch in detail a lot of Burr's past material, then he wouldn't feel as though he had to push (that's all he really had) because he may have felt more of a connection to Bill.
@dookies2332
2 жыл бұрын
Don't think mike needed to watch any of the material to know. To me, mike seems like he has a good idea they might have some common pain
@dragasan
2 жыл бұрын
@@dookies2332 That's possible.
@chrishickey2240
2 жыл бұрын
I love these videos, very helpful for me. Thank you
@lousassle9387
2 жыл бұрын
I think you should watch his show, F is for Family. I think the writing in the show is somewhat of an extended secondhand therapy for Burr.
@aliahalissajensen2590
Жыл бұрын
I actually thought that Mike Tyson didn't have the ability to reflect about his own actions. He seems very wise and aware of his own "flaws". Kudos to him🎩👌
@alexanderlyon
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. He's like a totally different person than he was 30 years ago.
@statetechguru4804
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip, that one should open up first to let other person open up. My Advice to Tyson would be to give Bll Burr the guest an escape route, if he doesnt want to dwell much on that topic let the guest move on to another topic. Bill Burr is a grown man, he usually doesnt talk much about his extended family, siblings or parents.
@goose5462
Жыл бұрын
Agree with your advice. Good video.
@SoNoFTheMoSt
2 жыл бұрын
Mike is a really smart guy wow.
@nixdapogs
2 жыл бұрын
Bull Burr is never gonna open up or completely work on his anger or else he’d lose his whole shtick. A calm and composed Bill Burr will bomb on stage. And this is from a guy who listens to his podcast 2x a week since 2012.
@lean4real_11
2 жыл бұрын
i mean he talks about how he’s gotten a lot calmer, right? and he’s still funny. if he healed that anger completely, i think he’d still be just as funny. it would just be different from the anger fuelled rants youre used to
@buster9106
2 жыл бұрын
Bill Burr is brilliant. And I agree Mike Tyson should have give an example of how he knows that the underlying cause for people's anger is being hurt in the past. He wanted Bill Burr to disclose something, he himself was not willing to do. So I think Bill Burr handled it the best way that was possible.
@mozdickson
2 жыл бұрын
I've watched quite a bit of Mike Tyson speaking over this year. I paid no attention to him previously. All those blows on the head have made him one hell of an insightful man. He runs ropes around so many politicians, celebrities, guest speakers and what nots in this world today. Suffering. Life is suffering. Suffering can teach you. (and yeah, I realise he faced personal loss). In elite sports, only former world champion surfer Shaun Tomson comes close to or surpasses Tyson's insight. On the opposite side of ledger, Lance Cyclist!
@warrens.5933
2 жыл бұрын
Great conversation & Great breakdown! Your vids are fantastic!
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them, Warren. Thank you.
@GoldenMoments100
2 жыл бұрын
Burr was in an open and authentic place, exactly where Tyson would have been interested to hear more from him. Tyson could have remained there with him and could have let it evolve slowly, could have started to explore with Burr slowly. Instead he started "front-running" Burr abruptly, which is awkward for people in whom realizations are fresh or still in the making. I would have just told Tyson "wait man, wait, I'm not there yet. But yeah, you might be touching on something valid there."
@pilotdawn1661
2 жыл бұрын
Always a worthwhile view. Excellent lesson.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Pilot Dawn. I really appreciate the encouragement.
@RobBertholf
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love the JoHari window model so it was great to see it used here!
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, Rob.
@nicholaschaney4002
2 жыл бұрын
It's not my place to say but if I had to guess, the main source would have to be his dad. Judging by his childhood stories he would tell during his stand up specials and talk shows. Interesting how he bottles up his emotions and thoughts on that podcast when he's typically very open about his father and childhood on other occasions. That's his right to disclose what he's comfortable with though.
@antodd2antodd
2 жыл бұрын
you nailed it brutha.... just be sure to pass this on to him!
@soyouknow8207
2 жыл бұрын
Mike: We are not hiding the temper. We are hiding the cause of the temper. On shrooms and weed like a mob boss XD
@JonathanFetzerMagic
2 жыл бұрын
Tyson is a genius. No advice needed.
@niby05
2 жыл бұрын
its like verbal judo and its fascinating.
@spmc7090
2 жыл бұрын
… good stuff, thank you Coach 🤙🏼🤘🏼
@shawnray6018
2 жыл бұрын
I really love your videos! These are great!
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them, Shawn. Thank you.
@alexstone2047
2 жыл бұрын
Tyson didn't need to change a thing. Id guess there's a certain level tact that's required with that level of fame and personal information, like you said. I'm sure they are hyper aware of that. Sometimes a healthy serving of fruit for thought is the best thing a friend could serve. "Who hurt you" maybe wasn't really a question from Tyson to Bur. It's a question one needs to know for clarity of self. I think that may have been the point of Tyson asking, not so much to get the answer but to stress that point. There's been a few times in my life someone gave me a quick dose of tough love like that and it fueled major revelation. I love your videos. Thank you. Feel free to give me your take on my opinion.
@thepoeticbutcher3370
2 жыл бұрын
…just the phrase, “who hurt you” is a common phrase of attack on Social Media(probably in person, but not as much), so that was a big wrench thrown in the mix.
@colind.murray5232
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome episode!! Thank you 😊.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Colin. Thank you.
@mixthebatter
2 жыл бұрын
Please do a full breakdown of recent viral Rand Paul v.s Fauci arguements if you have the time. love all the work you do, thanks!
@virtualensaniti2824
2 жыл бұрын
Hearing Tyson say "silly goose" just gave me such an awkward feeing....idk why it bothered me so much lol. It was like that feeling you get when someone creepy looks at you too long....lmao!
@themotocrossmodchannelWulfMX
2 жыл бұрын
It is somewhat of a oxy-moron, like Jumbo Shrimp. What he does is passive but with a hint of sarcasm..coming from Mike is why it is such a brow raiser bc if you consider the child-like banter that he is using coming from such a strong and powerful figure, it lends itself to make the other person know that he is on to you, but letting you off the hook and not pressing more when he knows he has you but dismisses it with that playground type banter. It is both funny and terrifying to me at the same time lol.
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
"Funny and terrifying" is a great description.
@themotocrossmodchannelWulfMX
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderlyon it's like he sunk down to a lower level banter with intentional whimsical "Mother Goose" type talking as a way for Bill to let his guard down with humor. In the back of Bills mind he must have had conflict on how to respond bc it was so out of left field..The irony is that Tyson is so physically dominant and has a huge charismatic quality but yet almost baby talk comes out and your are like, something ain't right lol, it's not, it's Tyson lol.
@johnheart6890
2 жыл бұрын
Well, I think we can all agree that the conversation heard here was honest and authentic- much more so than a lot of talk shows that are out there. Everyone was attempting to talk about something meaningful and real! I’m going to study this chart and attempt to refine my communication skills! Thanks!
@alexanderlyon
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John. I'm glad it was helpful for you.
@thecommonsensecapricorn
2 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed this one. I agree. Mikes approach was too intrusive or probing. His point was profound but it could’ve been communicated a lot softer & more loving
@aaronkalahar-_-_-
2 жыл бұрын
Great advice!
@ken244
2 жыл бұрын
I have to admit I am surprised at Tysons mentality; He has totally changed over the years. I guess he has grown up. Don't get me wrong I've always liked Tyson, but I am just in awe with him now days.
@KhairoAetos
2 жыл бұрын
My advice to Mike Tyson probably would be to avoid telling a person how they feel or what they think unless there's a lot of evidence to prove his claim. In my experience that has the potential to really uproot and change the feeling of the discourse overall. Bill Burr though is good enough to know that Tyson's intentions are good in nature and he's self aware enough to know that there's some truth to what Mike is saying. I know a lot of people who if they were in Bill's position would've shut down and removed themselves from the conversation. A lot of people today don't realize how important it is to be effective in their dialog as opposed to trying to be right. I think it's an important lesson for everyone to learn to be more effective than right.
@spfdff
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it was Mikes intent to fix Bill, but sometimes you just make an impression on people, so it sticks with them and gives them something to chew on, so that they can reflect on it and come to terms with it on their own time.
@AaronRClark
Жыл бұрын
My character would maybe be disarmed if Tyson was that straightforward and I wasn't in the mood or the state of mind to think of him as a peer. However, I hope what the intention was and how it was received was that of Tyson showing the respect I think Burr would be honored: Its Mike Tyson, one of the greats, looking at another great, Burr, and saying "Let's cut the bs, and let's be real with one another. "
@erniebeavers7334
Жыл бұрын
Bill Burr is smart enough to know that Mike is definitely more emotionally evolved than him, and struggle and contemplation is what brings that wisdom!
@alice5515
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who listens to Burr regularly knows that Tyson couldn’t do or say anything to have Bill say more than he did.
@AbbasiOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
Tyson can make a good interviewer
@mr.christopher79
2 жыл бұрын
must say i was pleasantly surprised by this breakdown of the conversation that was going on!
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