Season 1 Pierce will always be my favorite. The guy who wants to be seen as this wise man with years of experience but also as one of the cool kids. His attempts at connection throughout that season were, by far, his best moments throughout the series for me.
@Chiguy79
Жыл бұрын
I'm going through a rewatch of Community currently and seeing S1 Pierce made me sad knowing how things play out for him, both on screen and behind the scenes. They really did a great job of making him both reprehensible and sympathetic.
@ziggyzaug
6 ай бұрын
Honestly yeah I loved pierce season 1 the most a wise weird man
@mickbanner
5 ай бұрын
Nah. Season 2 and 3 Pierce was funnier. (Less 3 dimensional but funnier)
@jmace2424
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always seen Jeff and Pierce as alternate versions of each other. If Jeff had more money than he knew what to do with and got old… he would be Pierce. When Pierce pictures himself in his mind he pictures Jeff.
@jbard9892
Жыл бұрын
I always that season 1 Pierce was like season 1 Jeff when he was young. Successful, selfish prick that people gravitated to, but who was so entitled he never felt he had to put the work into building lifelong relationships. Obviously, there were generational differences, Jeff never went around calling people gay, but Pierce was the road Jeff was on he just didn't realize it.
@rheawelsh4142
Жыл бұрын
As soon as Jeff loses touch with what's cool it's over for him, he'd totally come back to community College just to feel like he's impressing people again in his later years
@Faltron533
5 ай бұрын
After watching Harmontown, I feel like Jeff and Pierce represent the good and bad of Dan's personality. Jeff is always trying get rid of Pierce and Dan is always trying to get rid of his demons.
@Molly-ml1wn
2 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating Dean-Dive into the character! For real though, if you want to do more Community retrospectives, I've never quite landed on a satisfying justification for why Britta became such a punching bag after season one. I'd really love to hear someone smarter than me's conclusions on why she Changd the way she did
@henrypeters5291
2 жыл бұрын
Not to claim that I am smarter than you but the real world situation is that Gillian just enjoyed playing a ditzier character. The in show reason is two-fold. One: Britta was always barely skin-deep since episode 2 and they merely planarized her. Two: the character hit a low point after the whole Jeff/Slater situation and spiraled. This is understandable, she put herself out there, got rejected and then spent the rest of the show trying to prove herself for things she clearly wasn't ready for, like her psychology degree. We always see her claim to be an expert at something but she never actually is shown putting in the work, and this is because she is trying to reclaim her self worth after being shut down by Jeff. The obviously went to far and I especially do not like how they rewrote her relationship with her parents right in front of us.
@williamwatson4354
Жыл бұрын
The best theory I've heard, it least the one that makes sense to me is that she's been smoking too much weed.
@someanimal3506
Жыл бұрын
I always thought it was because s1 britta was too boring to act as for Gillian and not funny enough for the audience.
@fangal12
Жыл бұрын
It was a nice Dean-construction of the character
@VeronicaLeasure
Жыл бұрын
Same here. Britta's character really started to feel empty - not just cartoonish, either. I liked how she became more lighthearted, but the other characters seemed to develop while she devolved into oblivion. I S2/S3 Britta was def my favorite, but S6 Britta was uncomfortable at times
@gurugru5958
2 жыл бұрын
I like their surrogate father son relationship dynamic you spoke of. I think the shaving scene was the best example of that. They didn't do anything mind blowing, they just spent time together, talked, and enjoyed each other's xompany. At the end of the day, that's something Jeff just never had
@nicwinsteadart5330
Жыл бұрын
Also his relationships with Annie, Troy and Shirley
@gurugru5958
Жыл бұрын
@@nicwinsteadart5330 Well, with an older male figure. That's the important caveat that differentiates them
@writeralbertlanier3434
Жыл бұрын
I always had the suspicion that Chevy Chase hated playing Pierce, that he wasn't comfortable with the character. Perhaps the best scene he had in the show was after the second paintball tournament when he gives the study group a little speech and says "I'm done with whatever this is." That had an authentic feel to it.
@michaeladkins6
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the Pierce character was too close to the actor. Chevy Chase was always a jerk going back to his SNL days and diva behavior.
@writeralbertlanier3434
Жыл бұрын
@@michaeladkins6 Yeah I thought that as well. Chevy probably got tired of playing a guy that had some echoes to his real life.
@byjackieolivia
Жыл бұрын
I think it's obvious that Dan Harmon and the writing team began writing Pierce differently as their personal relationship deteriorated.
@writeralbertlanier3434
Жыл бұрын
@@byjackieolivia Yeah I had thought that myself as well.
@YG-hb1uu
Жыл бұрын
Yes! That's the scene that comes to my mind the most too.
@writeralbertlanier3434
Жыл бұрын
Pierce was from what I recall basically a man who had been looked down and ignored throughout his life . The episode where he watches the outtake from Hawthorne towelette commercial makes this clear. This is why the group sort of mattered to him. He is shunned and. rejected yet again and he can't stand it.
@yondie491
Жыл бұрын
Far too many people focus solely on his jerkism, like this video, without going into enough depth on the causes of his jerkism. You can acknowledge the reasons people are jerks without ignoring the fact that they're jerks.
@shawndasheep4916
Жыл бұрын
I love the similarities between Jeff and Pierce. Being insecure and trying to hard and how that plays out differently for the two of them. It’s got me thinking about how each one of the OG main cast acts as a reflection of part of Jeff’s character. Jeff and abed both using movies and tv to escape reality as kids but Jeff moving away from that with age, Troy being the natural hero Jeff tries so hard to be, Annie being as cunning and ambitious as Jeff even willing to cut others down to succeed at times, Shirley and Jeff both being people who need to people please and manipulate others, and Britta and Jeff both being so superficial and having a lot of shared traits for that reason. It’s cool how they all show Jeff and aspect of his character which helps him to learn and grow throughout the series.
@shawndasheep4916
Жыл бұрын
It also allows them to enable each other in the toxic parts of those traits which is entertaining as well.
@beerwalrus2668
Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people don't remember/realise that, after season 1, Dan Harmon started to base pierce on Chevy Chases actually behaviours.
@fastfreeze0183
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you talking about community. Its my favorite comedy show. Because of how original it is and off the walls it can be. It also doesnt try to hard to be relatable which causes a lot sitcoms to be boring.
@TSDTalks22
2 жыл бұрын
Pierce was always interesting to me, especially considering the behind the scenes drama. I think you’ve encapsulated a lot of my thoughts on him and his treatment as a character, good and bad
@shoeham7987
2 жыл бұрын
Love to see some Community content. I did always find it interesting how Pierce would often spend a period of time as really antagonistic, but then cap it off with an almost contradictarily positive note, suddenly painting the buildup to that turnaround in a somewhat different light (not that that makes him any less racist, homophobic, etc...) Personally, I'd love to see any more videos on this show. Community is a very character-centric show, so maybe more character deep-dives would be cool?
@PillarofGarbage
2 жыл бұрын
ok so you’re definitely a hamster right
@shoeham7987
2 жыл бұрын
@@PillarofGarbage CRAP WE'VE BEEN MADE
@peverell_kaur
2 ай бұрын
my fav Pierce moment is when he teaches Troy how to sneeze… it’s such a small part, but I feel like it really utilises Pierce’s character, imparting “wisdom” as an old man to one of the young men in the study group
@Communiess
2 жыл бұрын
We spoke to the director, Jay Chandrasekhar, who was there when Chevy had his tirade. He cleared up a lot of confusion about how it ended, he also had some stuff kind of out of order but it's been nearly a decade. It's on 6 seasons and a podcast. I think it's still the latest episode. He wasn't fired because of the n-word. He was fired because of his reaction to having it public. To the best we can tell.
@EthanIrwiniamkingkong
2 жыл бұрын
Having it?
@Communiess
2 жыл бұрын
@@EthanIrwiniamkingkong ?
@slashercat8649
2 жыл бұрын
I always thought he was interesting, but I wish he'd been able to actually grow more. It makes sense that he's like that in the first seasons but having actually development would have been nice to see
@TheDanteJamesShow
Жыл бұрын
I loved that you didn’t use this video to lambast season 4. As a newer viewer of the show (I didn’t get into it until around 2019), I actually liked a lot of season 4, and specifically the parts when Pierce shone.
@spinozatheobvious626
Жыл бұрын
So naturally this made me rewatch cooperative polygraphy, and you're right, it's a masterpiece, it's a turning point of the show. It may, actually, be the moment the show jumped the shark, despite your claim in another episode that it never did... it reaches a height and an intensity that it never could reach again. It's the only bottle episode of any tv show that I know that's endlessly rewatchable and at no point seems to drag.
@aozf05
Жыл бұрын
I love how you casually dropped "duali-dean" 😂 Great analysis but I thought Chevy got fed up with the show because he was increasingly frustrated with how they were writing him as a caricatured bigot. I would actually like to see both whole season retrospectives and more focused deep dives. But if I had to choose I think the latter would provide more content.
@mudawott
Жыл бұрын
Its weird to me, I feel like a lot of Pierce's best moments are those moments where hes really trying to be good. Like some of my favouritr momentd of his are with Gilbert where he is still obviouslt Pierce, but he is trying. He cares and he shows it.
@tryinmyhardest
2 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic! It’d be cool to do deep dives for each character
@ashleytuchin7693
2 жыл бұрын
This was a great analysis! You really made me realise how different he was in Season One.
@thomaskuzma4360
2 жыл бұрын
Pierce was the biggest reason I watched the show when it first came out. My dad and I loved watching the Lampoon movies and this was a great show. It was Chevy's actions that made me dislike him and feel mixed feelings about the character. I was upset in the end how the show killed off Chevy, but once Elroy came in, I learned to appreciate the final moments we had with Pierce
@Jimmyhoffa_1234
8 ай бұрын
season two pierce was the unseen hero, he always ended up making people realise the better in each situation through his antagonism.
@inc3000
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget, Peirce is the one who brought "Streets Ahead" to the show
@ericgeddes3353
6 ай бұрын
I know that in the play episode Pierce wanted to butter up Annie so she'll give him a bigger role but I still think it shows a softer side to him that isn't often explored. The important thing is that more caring side is there.
@VeronicaLeasure
Жыл бұрын
It was great when Pierce would whip out information like his quip about black hole Sagittarius A and surprise everyone. Almost like, hey, he's a person and has knowledge, but still sucks. It gave the character dimension before becoming a punchline. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Pierce fan, but other characters got to find their potential while he didn't. Which is fine, being that it's more realistic - some people don't grow. But he became a punchline so quick. Great video! Well explored!
@ajax_galaxy1701b
Жыл бұрын
The Vaughn tribute at the end 'awakened something' in me...subbed just because of that. Well done!
@jontoven2467
2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate you making this video. I remember asking you for this character and you said yes.
@kamek200
2 жыл бұрын
I think character deep dives would be a great idea, Britta would be super interesting to analyse like this I think.
@zaczane
Жыл бұрын
Can we get a video on how PAINTBALL is used by community both narratively but also metaphorically, and maybe what it means for the show
@Shelbichu
Жыл бұрын
Cooperative Polygraphy is so funny. It's such a good episode. I'm glad that's how they ended Pierce's character. I never hated him, I always saw his role as the show needing an antagonist. He was very flawed but I liked him for it.
@tansya603
5 ай бұрын
I know im so late to this video, but i cant believe i rewinded 10 seconds just to make sure i heard "duali-dean" correctly. Great video, looking forward to watching a lot more (and more recent ones 😭)
@HeiressOfLoganbeeren
2 жыл бұрын
That was beautiful! Pierce is definitely an interesting character, and some of the heartwarming moments he had with Jeff definitely contributed to making Community a comfort show of mine. Time to subscribe, I guess!
@PillarofGarbage
2 жыл бұрын
Might be a little while until I get another Community video out but I promise more will come!
@joburg2646
2 жыл бұрын
I could see a video about the season's finales, what worked and didn't being fun.
@PillarofGarbage
2 жыл бұрын
Could be a fun idea!
@JediPrime11
Жыл бұрын
How can you not love his mom turning into a Transformers source of energy! Ha
@bungalowlogic7676
Жыл бұрын
Gained my sub for self-insert parody of Getting Rida Britta at the end. Really, for great character study of PH. Streets ahead!
@nikkimos1630
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love community and the fact that u are talking about it, I’d love to see more community content 👏👏
@Nieztro
Жыл бұрын
You caught me off guard with that "dualidean". Nice.
@yodcox
2 ай бұрын
Hey! Just wanted to comment and say I love your Community videos!
@willy02001
11 ай бұрын
A big reason pierce change was the relationship between harmon and chase. There was alot of fighting between him and aloy of others on set. Harolmon started to adjust his pierce character accordingly
@thomheil
7 ай бұрын
I just found your channel, and I'm loving all the Community content. I'd love to hear your take on Britta over the course of 6 seasons. Thanks for the awesome videos!
@PillarofGarbage
7 ай бұрын
Thank you! Stay tuned - a couple of Community videos planned for this month :)
@GeneralLeia
7 ай бұрын
I loved the dynamic Pierce brought to the show.
@bend6005
Жыл бұрын
the song at the end is amazing...well done
@arthurvelwest5481
Жыл бұрын
I'd love more character deep dives like this, as someone who's made his own video essay about Troy's arc I'd love to see your take on it.
@bigsweetowl4487
Жыл бұрын
Honestly surprised to find out a channel called Pillar of Garbage isn't a dedicated Community video essay channel :P Great video tho, really puts the character in context
@sarojandongol1482
Жыл бұрын
Man really said dualidean. Made me changry.
@douglasskinner6348
Жыл бұрын
I haven't seen any of your other videos (yet), but I love Community and your take on Pierce. A lot of people would've focused on the Chevy/Dan conflicts, so it's really nice that it was treated as a side note, while focusing more on Pierce the character. I would love to see more videos on Community. Going full into each character, season and episode would be great, and I'd definitely watch them.
@catafer
Жыл бұрын
17:11 took me by surprise. I loved this analysis! Pierce was very entertaining but also complex and not many appreciate the inevitable truth that there are lots of people like him
@scherb428
5 ай бұрын
so your username IS from community, im glad I found your videos LIKE
@AntagonistVideo
2 жыл бұрын
Loved the slick “seemingly at random” choice of words
@matiasaniano5133
Жыл бұрын
The more under the radar stuff usually has freedom to experiment, and that's what I love, so keep doing these videos!! I loved this one.
@andyboie3333
2 жыл бұрын
Longer retrospectives of the seasons and deep dives on each characters stories throughout the show please! 😆
@emmanuelduran4884
Жыл бұрын
I really like how you explained all the different angles of Pierce also I like your puns, bro When you said "dualidean" thats what got me to subscribe
@VeronicaLeasure
Жыл бұрын
Omg the outro song!!!!!!! AMAZING 👏👏👏
@jmace2424
Жыл бұрын
The more times I watch Community, the more I come to appreciate Pierce.
@TitleInProgress
2 жыл бұрын
This video was streets ahead (I’m sorry someone had to say it)!
@PaceFilmsProductions
2 жыл бұрын
Community is a great example of Flanderization in action.
@Robin0928
Жыл бұрын
I genuinely think that dismissing Season 4 as "The Gas-Leak Season" that the community does really overshadows how, despite the overall season being much messier than the first 3, Season 4 is at its best when dealing with Jeff and Pierce as characters. Genuinely, i think some of my favorite emotional Jeff moments come from Season 4's Thanksgiving episode as well as the graduation scene with Jeff and Pierce. Its the first (and sadly last) time we get those Season 1-esque shades of Jeff and Pierce's dynamic since Season 2, and serves really well as the last on-screen incarnation of Pierce and the main cast before he was killed
@zanecords1821
Жыл бұрын
Love the community vids!
@justnone9809
Жыл бұрын
thanks for doing this video i love community so much love your ideas for more content with it
@Tsudkyk
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been loving these community videos. The show is brilliant and the cast is perfect.
@itsrainingben8440
Жыл бұрын
Have enjoyed finding your Community videos. More please.
@nerds-nonsense
2 жыл бұрын
this was amazing , we'd love to see a break down of troy and abed (very obvious we know) or season by season retrospectives, honestly whatever you do we'll enjoy
@1notdeadyet1
2 жыл бұрын
6 SEASONS AND A MOVIE!
@hooman9e
11 ай бұрын
Pierce and Chevy were great. If it's true about Harmon's ridiculous shooting schedule then that amounts to elder abuse and I'm not ok with that. A lot of people said when Troy left the show wasn't the same again. For me it was when pierce left
@gudduentertains
4 ай бұрын
❤
@JawnLouis
Жыл бұрын
Great video
@Sh0nSpectre
Жыл бұрын
Any video you make on this show I will consume and appreciate post haste
@endrankluvsda4loko172
6 ай бұрын
Great video! I absolutely loved Pierce as a character in the earlier seasons. Yeah, he was all kinds of racist, sexist, and offensive, but he was also like a father figure to several of the characters, including Troy, Annie, and Jeff. His encouraging speeches were so well written. It was sad to see later how he became the character no one in the group seemed to like even when they did have good moments with him.
@ericgeddes3353
6 ай бұрын
I'd really like to see more episodes like this.
@GeorgeMarionerd
Жыл бұрын
When I was first watching this show, on Netflix a few years ago, I mostly disliked Pierce for the first couple series. But through season 3 and 4, he gradually became my favourite character. Not knowing about any of the show's behind the scenes stuff, his death came as a big shock to me.
@agent95_
Жыл бұрын
This was great! Please keep it up
@CalOkand
Жыл бұрын
This video is streets ahead.
@hrishiv27
Жыл бұрын
Character deep dives would definitely be a great way to go
@gudduentertains
4 ай бұрын
He was the funniest among the main cast for me.
@zupik1894
Жыл бұрын
Hello! I would like to see such deep dive of each character. I would also like to know more about the behind the scenes, such as the issues with Harmon and Chase.
@ingebrigtsaevik1384
Жыл бұрын
They should have kept fred williard as pierce after aber recast him in his mind
@mamatthews78
Жыл бұрын
Love the character focus. Would like to see more like this.
@astralflick
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion Pierce was easily the funniest character, putting behind the scenes things aside, Chevy Chase is a comedic genius.
@zanehawkins7204
Жыл бұрын
The mentions of season 4 make it sound like you don't hate it like others do id love to hear a defense of it
@Rekubot
6 ай бұрын
omg, that outro 🔥
@beneciotheperson
Жыл бұрын
I understand that Chevy probably wasn't great to work with, but I can't forgive the show's crew for spinning his concerns over how Pierce was being written into him actively just being racist. Did he have to use the N-word in his argument? No, but Chevy had a real concern over the character. Now that he irl has become sober, I really do hope Harmon and him reach some sort of truce for the movie.
@faw6103
Жыл бұрын
Wait.. did I hear “Duali-dean” at 16:27? Bravo…
@clements1991
Жыл бұрын
Love that you snuck in a 'duali-dean' 😂
@jessaminemanchester
Жыл бұрын
I'd love more character studies like this!
@DavyCDiamondback
Жыл бұрын
The Brits are analyzing our American characters, brilliant
@laurentfortier5442
2 жыл бұрын
Great video montage, argumentation, and a nice mic. I shoudl've subbed earlier. Thank you, Pillar of Garbage!
@pippastrelle
Жыл бұрын
Pierce was the ultimate foil. The show worked best when when they recognised his need to be relied on also made him happy to help them grow. He was everyone's worst quality yet, despite that, he probably saw the best in the others that they themselves couldn't see. Partially out of jealousy and partially out of mentor-ly insight. Despite Jeff's insecurities, he garnered respect. Despite Britta's posturing, she cared. Despite Shirley going unappreciated, she was a rock. Despite Annie's elitism, she worked for her successes. Despite Troy's childishness, he had insight. Despite Abed living his own version of reality, he had fine skills. Celebrity Pharmacology, Abed's Uncontrollable Christmas, Intermediate Documentary Filming, A Fistfull of Paintballs/A Few Paintballs More, and Cooperative Polygraphy are episodes I most remember. The main cast confront themselves in Pierce and Pierce wakes up from his selfishness upon being able to aid their development.
@avoidant560
Жыл бұрын
Everything drastically changed after the paintball episode...
@Marvelous_Malachi
2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more community videos. I love this show and I hope we get that movie one day #6SeasonsandAMovie!!!
@PixeletDan
Жыл бұрын
yes, please more on community!!! i love this video
@nolanpagay3410
Жыл бұрын
Subbed because of the Outro 👍
@babygorilla4233
Жыл бұрын
Subbing out of pure respect for the song. I legit have only seen one of your videos.
@Ria.maris03
5 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to do analysis of abed and his impact on the group.
@SirPumpkinSlice
10 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the video. Though I disagreed about Pierce's dad. Are parents exist as our excuse. But in reality, they are the reason, Pierce could have stood up to his dad and left, but he chose to never question him. Many of us never question things our parents taught us and it's a crap shooting if that is good.
@domhuckle
11 ай бұрын
6 seasons and a movie
@andrewscott7728
11 ай бұрын
The guy who played Pierce's father was 12 years younger than Chevy Chase.
@annatorres5399
Жыл бұрын
PLEASE do more character analyses for community. talk more ab the brittany thing
@cyananubis4304
Жыл бұрын
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 Community rocks. Love your Community content! Thank you 😊
@Notyourbizness123
Жыл бұрын
9:55 Hey, that's the name of this show!
@robomonkey1018
Жыл бұрын
Rad you make some good points ill just go watch the show three more times all the way through.
@MrMighty147
Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite shows. If I can make a suggestion for a video topic: The Dean's behaviour towards Jeff constituting sexual harassment and it being especially problematic. Because it appeares to be excused with the Dean being gay and harassing a straight man, aswell as him being incapable of physically overpowering Jeffrey, thereby drawing parallels towards discarding sexual harassment of men through women. I'm not saying that this was the intention or even consciously done by the creators. On the contrary I think this was just done entirely unconsciously. But I think this is a good example for this specific theme. I would love to hear what you think about that.
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