To the future people watching this video. The white mage portion of this video is now outdated. The blood lily potency got increased, so lilies are now dps neutral. You're encouraged to use lilies for mobility and healing
@andrewtlk
Жыл бұрын
Future person here 👍
@darkpaw1522
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I was worried about that.
@tiefighter5564
Жыл бұрын
It can actually be a slight dps gain if you time the heals outside of the raid buff window and use misery with the buff window
@Weezarvil
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the update.
@axylum4453
7 ай бұрын
Thought it might help newbies but you can also use spare lilies during down time as that's technically a dps gain. Can't remember if that was mentioned in the vid
@Duudefeet
2 жыл бұрын
The greatest jump in my Astro skill was buying a mouse with twelve buttons
@roblovicz1257
Жыл бұрын
I use it too
@elgatochurro
11 ай бұрын
Just 4 hot bars is all I needed😊
@jzrhoom
5 ай бұрын
@@elgatochurro i use ESDF for move, so i have more buttons xdd
@dantelundell9386
5 ай бұрын
@@jzrhoom ... Thats just as many buttons as WASD
@hockey1973
2 жыл бұрын
With WHM you forgot to mention that the best time to use benediction is right before the gunbreaker hits Superbolide.
@obviouslykaleb7998
2 жыл бұрын
also right before living dead is proc'd, as well as on yourself when you're at 50%.
@rabid_si
2 жыл бұрын
I think you mean that the best time to use Superbolide is right after the WHM hits Benediction.
@ThatLazyStray
Жыл бұрын
The only bad experience i've had with ff14 so far was a gunbreaker who pulled pretty much every mob in the first half of the dungeon, superbolide, and then rage quit when i couldn't 0-100% twice within 4 seconds (and therefor he died). I wont lie, it gave me a bad taste in my mouth every time i see a gunbreaker tank now. Luckily, 99% of players are not at all like that and are significantly nicer.
@FloraAnneFauna
2 жыл бұрын
weirdly enough AST was the only healer i instantly clicked with as a beginner
@mikewiz3059
2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s quite intuitive as someone who has played ever healer at Max level it’s Astro > sage > sch >/= whm for me
@redmanp11
2 жыл бұрын
Same, My first healer was SCH (love it) which I got to 90 at the end of Stormblood so I flipped a coin on my next healer (WHM or AST) for Shadowbringers story as I want to level Sage when I get to Endwalker story. Don't like leaving all the Juicy story XP on the table by pushing through with a Max out Job. AST has been AMAZING, love the heals and buffs I can give out, which are very mp efficient, Just hit 62 LOVE using my trap card with Earthy Star.
@silxer3154
2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Outside of WHM as WHM was the first job I started with, AST clicked with me rather quickly and it became may main healer job due to the amount of tools the job has so it never gets boring, and I also enjoy the theme to it so that help. SCH, on the other had took me a very long time to understand the kit and how to make use of all of the abilities. SGE took a bit of time too, but my time learning SCH made learning SGE much easier. At this point, I simply play all of them as I enjoy the different playstyles of each of the healers. AST would be my favorite out of all of them though, followed closely by SCH and SGE.
@tibowmew
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Astro was the first healer I came across. I did the first job mission and was so confused that I immediately decided to leave the whole job alone until I had done a simpler healer first. Then went back to level 1 (from an 87 dragoon halfway through Shadowbringer) and leveled white mage to finish the story. Never have made my way back to Astro...
@mindmaster064
2 жыл бұрын
I can see AST as being an ideal healer for you when you've played something similar in another game. If you play something that did a lot of other combos (like Demon spec warlock in WoW, or something like that) then AST feels like the same playstyle.
@Jaquan018
2 жыл бұрын
As a newbie healer (literally picked the game when Free trial became available) I'm a very, very nervous Scholar. Especially during wall to wall pulls. Though for the most part (Barely level 52, not started Heavensward) I just settle for the Sacred Soil whenever it's off Cooldown while using rest of my kit as needed... Probably not the best Healer out there but then again the class was with me since the start
@tomcoleman8702
2 жыл бұрын
Scholar starts put easy, gets a little rough in the area you’re in, and then gets easy again. Hang in there! Eventually you’ll get the cool abilities like Excog, deployment tactics, and recitation. Then at 80 when you get Seraph, it’s smooth sailing until 90. Also, when Soil is down, use Fey Illumination for another mitigation tool. You can throw whispering dawn on top of it to take advantage of the extra healing
@Gamemaster-64
2 жыл бұрын
You want nerves, try wall to wall in tam tara, only hard cast heals and only tank has aoe which they don't use during pull. Then get called bad healer when wipe and you dont know if they sent a report.
@lyconxero457
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I always felt that Scholar was pretty great in dungeons until the end of ARR and then kind of sucked until Shadowbringers where their toolkit expanded greatly. Now, maybe it's all the time I've spent playing Scholar but I find Sage easier to play even when I get synced down in content simply because they can shield on the move and I don't scream when people don't stand in my sacred soil because their ability just snapshots onto the party when its cast.
@Jaquan018
2 жыл бұрын
@@tomcoleman8702 I won't reach that level for now. Free trial Sprout as I stated in my opening post. I'm stopping at tactics and I still need to work on my spatial awareness. I have serious problems keeping up with the tank as they run and let's be honest my best quick option isn't exactly that powerful.
@Jaquan018
2 жыл бұрын
@@harryn7518 Thanks but again. Free trial. Capped at 60 where my best spells will be GCDs considering I only get like one OGCD while both tactics play with my shields (again those are only on my GCDs)
@OtakuChan7
2 жыл бұрын
When you were talking about SCH I'm surprised you never brought up Excog. It's my go-to ability for light party dungeons and has saved my tank's ass so many times lol
@toodleselnoodos6738
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely amazing ability! In EW, I’ve been leaning more towards a super fat Adlo, but nothing beats the effective ease of use Excog is! Also, how can ya not love using that beautiful scholarly animation of Excogitation and Protraction!
@bbeckford90
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, it's even better if the excog crits but honestly the only place where an excig won't save a tank is Doma Castle
@sharp_iodine2737
Жыл бұрын
It’s nice when it crits but I like Taurochole better for the mitigation. And Benediction always beats out everything else when special mentions are made because what’s better than simply giving someone a reset button?
@MiriOhki
2 жыл бұрын
As a career scholar, I do notice that some people don't mention the Oh Crap potential of Emergency Tactics for Burst healing. Using Lustrate/Indom (1 or all) right before ETac into Adlo/Succor allows you to heal huge amounts of HP rather quickly, and I usually follow up with a regular Adlo/Succor to top off HP and put barriers back up. and ETac is also a rather short cooldown too, only 15 seconds, so you can use it fairly often if needed, and it doesn't provide any additional resource cost besides an extra click/button.
@elgatochurro
11 ай бұрын
For me sch has too many buttons for niche things I do still love it, and after the factory reset resetting my HUD hotbars I actually have it and Astro quite organized now.
@caelstrom9289
2 жыл бұрын
I recommend AST because your sense of personal progression is more obvious. It's easier to tell the differences among a new AST, good AST and an expert AST. You know when you've gotten better at the class when start weaving cards in between GCDs, healing and resolving mechanics.
@kingrushy4533
2 жыл бұрын
I agree dude, when I was new I would just pull any cards. Now I always grab the sun, the moon, and crescent moon every single time, so I can get all 3 buffs.
@belphegor_dev
Жыл бұрын
@@kingrushy4533 that is actually very inefficient and a DPS loss. It's better to just aim for at least two seals. A third one is just a bonus.
@kingrushy4533
Жыл бұрын
@@belphegor_dev really? I never knew that, thanks for the tip
@zoommiesbay
Жыл бұрын
As someone who played bard ive found ast to actually feel kinda similar
@hirokjyotideka5571
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know AST was 'hard'. Just picked it up, had a blast and main it for my healer class. I am more confident with it than using WHM. Definitely will try out SCH next.
@toychristopher
2 жыл бұрын
AST isn't hard but AST mains like to feel special for playing the healer that presses the most buttons.
@lolleonlolable
2 жыл бұрын
@@toychristopher its for sure harder to play optimal as a ast than other healers, if u dont think so ur tripping
@mindmaster064
2 жыл бұрын
I don't view AST as hard, just a crappier WHM. :D Really, I miss the sects and that is what I enjoyed of the class. They're gone, I now don't care about the AST because the SCH is better on utility.
@lolleonlolable
2 жыл бұрын
@@mindmaster064 you might not considering it as "hard" but its still "harder" than other healers to optimize for damage/heal/buffs. thats just a fact.
@mindmaster064
2 жыл бұрын
@@lolleonlolable Dunno, AST is just basically a hand rotation for me at this point. But, I think you get very little for the carpal tunnel you will face by playing the job, lol. This is why I don't like Gunbreaker either... It's too much work for a very slight gain. In the AST's case presently it's a lot of work for no actual gain. Most of it's buffs have been thrown to other jobs which have longer duration effects or do exactly the same thing with no need to deal with cards. It's healing output is lower that's why I view it as inferior to the WHM.
@blrblr1
2 жыл бұрын
SCH are by far the worst healers in the game I met. And reason is not because the job is bad (job is great), but because most of SCH players only leveled SMN and they swap to SCH just for shorter queues... and they think and hope that fairy will do all the healing. Whenever I am tanking any dungeon and got SCH as healer, I am always nervous and slow with the pull until I can see that he can actually heal.
@Ephem13
2 жыл бұрын
I'll say this, with how unpredictable players can be in roulette runs, I love whm. The number of ways you can absolutely save someone that is not paying attention (we've all done it), or just oblivious to what about to happen is outstanding. It's not as suited as ast for raiding but I also don't feel like it's a handicap either
@GhostCry100
2 жыл бұрын
3:28 Just a tip. You can press an oGCD as soon as you start casting and it will queue to go out on the target you used it *as soon as the cast ends*. No need to wait for the cast to end to press the ogcd and quickly switch targets. You can quickly ogcd the tank and then go back to spamming the damaging button on the boss and trust that as soon as the cast ends you'll ogcd the tank and immediately start casting damages on the boss again :)
@Richterdgf
8 ай бұрын
What each Healer says about you: White Mage: basic and uncomplicated. Scholar: nerd. Astrologian: you either play too much Yu-Gi-Oh or you actually buy into it when hippie chicks say Mercury is in Gatorade or whatever. Sage: you identify as an X-Wing starfighter.
@IceRuler
2 жыл бұрын
For the longest time my main healer job was White Mage. I loved the way I was able to heal so much in so short a time and even mitigate some damage and I felt like my MP never ran out. This was even better when spamming Holy during mob pulls. A real green DPS. Endwalker changed that unfortunately. Now my main healer is Sage. While harder to play I love the fact that I can heal by doing damage and to have so many barrier spells. My only gripe is that... MP can run out quite fast despite the abilities that restore some amount.
@IceRuler
2 жыл бұрын
@@lartisteautravail All the healers seem to actually suffer from MP management now and that makes the balancing between healing and DPS quite hard. Yes, even Scholar even though that class uses a Fairy. Now I haven't played any of the healer jobs except Sage since Endwalker launched, but I do intend to. All of them stand at lvl 80 now. I did, however, tryout WHM and Sage on training dummies and it made me realize that I couldn't use WHM the usual way anymore. Namely it felt like I should actually save MP for healing rather than doing damage. So I dropped WHM because I believe I couldn't balance between damage and healing with WHM anymore. Make no mistake, though. The Holy spell is still one of the best spells in dungeon runs at least. Sage seems to, however, somewhat fix that problem for me. That's why I changed. It is still possible that my main healer job will change over time again, perhaps even back to WHM, but at least for now it's Sage. Also, if it wasn't obvious already, my main class is NOT a healer so I'm no expert.
@elanapiper6113
2 жыл бұрын
lol i started as sage healer now im whm main
@jafd239
2 жыл бұрын
Sch is honestly pretty good with MP management. Between Lucid dreaming, Aetherflow, and Fairy abilities, I find it easy to keep mana pretty high in casual content (unless I have to spam raise aha)
@Nienna_Asyare
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why, but I always feel like anxious or jealous or something whenever I see another White Mage It’s probably because I’m like Yoshi-P and Black Mage where he wants to be the best but instead it’s me and White Mage xD
@toodleselnoodos6738
2 жыл бұрын
Something else for WHM: it leans into the GCD healer as it has 3 powerful buff spells. Presence of Mind speeds up your casting and is great to use after using a heal or lily to catch up on damage. Normally, WHM can struggle with MP when not using their lilies and sometimes things go south in which you don’t have any lilies or AoE healing. Thin Air works great as a way to pump out a Cure 3 or Médica 2 free of charge or getting in a Raise for free. Otherwise, use it a Glare to keep it from overcapping. The last ability, Plenary Indulgence is another great buff to your AoE healing. This causes your AoE heals to heal an additional amount. It can be used in various ways: for your AoE lily, when you use Thin Air for a Cure 3, or casting Médica 2 after a large damage. While they get a bad rap currently, WHM’s powerful healing potential can singlehandedly deal with mechanics that can sometimes take 2 healers (well, until you get to 90 and AST gains Macrocosmos). It was also one of the first healers to solo heal EW trials and can handle party-wide heal check doom mechanics on it’s own (such as TG Cid) and also the only healer that DRKs love to be with. That isn’t saying it doesn’t have its fair share of design issues, but it’s still and amazing and powerful job. (Coming from an omnihealer that prefers to SCH.)
@SemekiIzuio
2 жыл бұрын
Presence of Mind is no different from Lightspeed AST therefore i wouldn't say it has a 1 up then the other pure healing healer, they are even. The 2nd buff you mentioned was Thin Air, considering MP is bad with WHM rn I wouldnt call it a buff. Even with Thin Air WhM still struggling with MP even though that skill is suppose to alleviate the struggle. While AST dont have that, it's not like it's missing out considering it can handle MP just fine. I have no comment on Planetary, its decent. (Coming from a WhM main and all 4 80 healers, I havent gone back for EW)
@toodleselnoodos6738
2 жыл бұрын
@@SemekiIzuio If you want to compare ya, but it stands on its own just fine. Could it be better? Ya, absolutely. Is it unplayable? No not at all. And Lightspeed is not the same as Presence of Mind. Presence of Mind speeds up your casting and is meant as a DPS boost. Lightspeed frontloads your casting and is meant for mobility and opening weave windows for the extremely intense opening that AST has (you start with 2 draw charges, so you need to setup to have 2 charges ready, 1 card ready to play, so you can use Play 3 times while also pulling your Arcana to see if it’s the Lord card, then also play your Lord card, and also using Astrodyne for your spellspeed damage buff, alongside an ES manual detonation if needed. It’s extremely busy). You still have the 2.5 recast timer with Lightspeed so the WHM will be casting faster, the AST will not. Lightspeed is for mobility. PoM is for turreting. And a buff as in a buff that the job puts on itself. Not buff as in a mechanical change from a patch. Even though it’s a charge for one cast, it’s still a buff. What it lost in power in its ShB iteration, it gained in flexibility. Which, is a moot point when you’re optimizing because the only thing it’ll be used on is Glare or Dia anyway. And the only issues WHMs have with MP is when they DON’T use their lilies. This is an issue in optimization as your lilies don’t need to be used as often because of how easily the party handles mechanics and therefore offers nothing other than delaying damage for MP gain. When a WHM is actively using lilies on top of Thin Air, they’re doing fine MP wise. Case in point: my WHM co-healer never has issues with MP in EW EX trials or Pandemonium Savage. I’ve watched and it’s not an issue at all. The only people I’ve seen complaining are the ones who are trying to optimize and found that you need piety to optimize damage…which is already an unoptimal approach so they have issues with it. I’ve run WHM in EX and it handles MP perfectly fine even when the other healer is pretty much AFK dead. And if you want to play AST, play AST. But AST is fAST and not everyone likes playing it. Someone playing a healer they like and do well on will get you further in prog than a healer doing something they’re not comfortable with. AST is VERY strong. But you’re not screwed if you bring a player who knows how to WHM. Edit: irrelevant as of 6.1. WHM is frigging awesome now!
@sharp_iodine2737
Жыл бұрын
WHM as it is now is pretty good imo. The only thing I’ll change is the lower level experience which is horrible on WHM to the point where I dread Leveling Roulette. In endgame content WHM is the way to blind prog and not give a damn about mechanics
@dangermouse9494
2 жыл бұрын
I have played AST, WHM, and SCH.. Your analysis of the jobs are spot on. A barrier healer and a spot healer combined are a really good duo. I started out as a WHM because that was what I played in FFXI and it was familiar. I tried SCH and I just couldn't get into it. Then came AST and it was a game changer for me. I love AST. Yes, it is a lot of clicking and management, but when you have ADD as an adult, it just works for me.
@JCPC17
2 жыл бұрын
For once, I can appreciate someone's take on Whitemage. So many hate on it due to "lillies are useless and a DPS loss". Yet when I was leveling through the story, you could not find me happier then the day I finally reached Heavensward and finally unlocked the use of said Lillies. Their true power comes from their equal potency to regular GCD heals at no MP cost. This was so liberating after healing through all of ARR without them. And yes, the blood lilly is purely to compensate for the need to heal at times and not meant to be used if no healing was done.
@mindmaster064
2 жыл бұрын
WHM has to use the lily to avoid OOMing, that's what they're for. For the price of having to actually worry about mana you have the highest single target and burst healing. I"ll take the trade, lol.
@CrowYaeger
2 жыл бұрын
...No Sage has the highest single target DPS of all the healers and it's not even close. The lack of oGCDs means WHM DPS suffers and Thin Air got completely neuteured. Holybell and Aquaveil aren't even good in a raid setting either. They actually ban WHM on the JP servers because of how fucking bad it is in raid. Why would you EVER run WHM over AST in raid?
@JCPC17
2 жыл бұрын
@@CrowYaeger With how Yoshi-p called out Japanese players for being toxic to the devs, are you really surprised they'd be so elitist as to ban a class? That doesn't change the fact that both AST and WHM toolkits lose overall DPS as soon as heavy burst healing is required. That Sage and even SCH have higher rDPS isn't surprising since their toolkits are tailored for sustain HoT (Did you not listen to the video? He breaks it down very thoroughly) Every class is able to clear all content no matter what. If you listen to what the dummy DPS andies say alone obviously WHM would be banned from all content, yet parties with WHM are still able to clear everything fine.
@mindmaster064
2 жыл бұрын
@@CrowYaeger The numbers don't matter that much, that's why... When I play WHM I'm barely casting any heals just popping oGCD and instants. Certainly, Thin Air is nerfed, but it was nerfed because most of the time WHM doesn't even expend mana. I think the Thin Air hurts mostly at low level before you have the no-mana healing and rely on Cure II for the heavy lifting. Once you have enough varieties of cooldown heals and lily use heals there is really no reason to use Cure. This is true as soon as the WHM reaches 60... The problem with AST is that other jobs provide the same buffs it does (even better actually). So, if you were making your ideal raid you wouldn't bring this class because its buffs are stomped on by someone with a better/longer duration buff. So then we are left with raw healing outputs and WHM is better on that. Remember Holy is a heal when there are stunnable mobs, and no other healer has it. The difference is that the WHM is not depended on cooldown heals to heal, whereas the AST is. This makes the AST more difficult to use for no reason, and you trade away the best heal in the game... Which is Holy, lol. (Damage never done does not need to be healed, lol) The reality is few of us are playing in these raid nerd scenarios and then it comes down to the enjoyment of the class. I play all the healers and I find the WHM and SCH are far more enjoyable than SGE and AST. Mind you, I am a healer main... I play all of these. It is nothing for me to just swap to whatever I want. Just to add, I really do like SGE just as not a healer... More of a healer to use when you don't need much healing and you just want to stick the damage. WHM makes acceptable damage as well, but it's just not the priority when you play WHM you're more heal bot focuses in that job, and it's fine that's what you want when you play it, lol.
@janikz211
2 жыл бұрын
@@CrowYaeger Are they really? If it's speedruns, sure. But normal pf? If people cleared with WHM on week1, there's no reason to ban them other than p3s bcoz AST macrocosmos is just broken for that fight.
@einsiedler6052
2 жыл бұрын
I love scholar. Always did. The duality with summoner was even a reason to lvl my first alt in HW on my friends server.
@arxeha
2 жыл бұрын
Being all healer main, i somehow struggle to play as Sage eventhough I am really good with the other 3 jobs
@Jolsn
2 жыл бұрын
That's what I mention in the video too, I actually think Sage is easier to learn if you've never played any healers for some reason
@arxeha
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jolsn yeah, I am definitely seeing Sage as a green DPS now😂
@calumbeattie5337
2 жыл бұрын
@@arxeha I struggled with SGE as well for a bit, but after watching this video by Momo it really clicked for me. Hopefully it might help you as much as it helped me! kzitem.info/news/bejne/toagyquLoKmfln4&ab_channel=FFXIVMomo
@itskazzyd
2 жыл бұрын
It takes a hot minute to get used to, but once it clicks it’s amazing. By the time you’re at level 90 you can go through W2W pulls and have the tank take next to no damage. It’s my go to barrier healer now
@sirarthurkingofbobland4159
Жыл бұрын
Nightmare with a controller, anyways, whats the closest class to a resto druid in wow, or sage in swtor?, thinking about Hots here.....
@Jolsn
Жыл бұрын
Probably Sage, it has a lot of party-wide hots
@zirilan3398
2 жыл бұрын
Why isn't WAR included in the thumbnail?
@zarith87
2 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@TigerLoveHeart
8 ай бұрын
easy guide : white to chill (HoTs and instant heals) scholar to stress (shields are ok not great and heals are bad) Astro none of the above and cards became boring long ago (remake in 2024 for a reason) Sage does what white mage does in a slightly less good way but also does what scholar does in a much better way
@EmetSelch.
2 жыл бұрын
Me as a Scholar : "Remember. Remember us. Remember that we once lived."
@rottierumbles9451
2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE SCH it's just the one I'm most comfortable with and something that I instantly clicked with , don't like WHM at all, AST too fiddly, not tried SGE as of yet I may give it a go here soon.
@skyfall3079
2 жыл бұрын
I don't care what anyone says, blood lily IS the goal. I love it when I have to heal people with lilies.
@FhtagnCthulhu
Жыл бұрын
I don't care about dps, I care about BIG NUMBER
@wonder3409
2 жыл бұрын
looking to level a healer i picked up WHM and leveled it up in a month. had so much fun with it and then decided to go to astro, not knowing all the weaving necessary and man... what a change. astro has definitely been one of the most difficult jobs (personally) because it can feel so overwhelming and busy; especially coming from whm! enjoying it a lot but its definitely a huge learnign curve
@raullobleon8337
2 жыл бұрын
Why you have to choose if you can pick every healer... :'3
@elgatochurro
11 ай бұрын
It's important to note, sage is new which is why it's so popular. Every healer does very well and is played relatively the same amount by the community. This is healthy
@Voltage256
2 жыл бұрын
Never been a good healer in any game I've played but everyone says healing is very different in this game so been leveling WHM since everyone says it's the most straight forward healer there is
@dragonhearthx8369
2 жыл бұрын
Technically yes it is. Keep regen on the tank, areo on mobs. And throw rocks constantly.
@Voltage256
2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonhearthx8369 I wasn't good at WHM tbh. The only healer that clicked with me was AST despite ppl saying AST is probably the hardest it was the easiest for me
@dragonhearthx8369
2 жыл бұрын
@@Voltage256 yeah that's the nature of these jobs. Most say that it is difficult but there are a select few that just instantly pick up on it. And the reverse is also true. Dragoon and samurai are supposed to be easy jobs but I have difficulty with them.
@Voltage256
2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonhearthx8369 I struggle with Dragoon to but tbh I don't do well with Melee classes in general in any game. My main DPS go to is SMN and Machinist.
@mathewglover33
Жыл бұрын
To any seriously future people remember this, there is no pressure, you can play multiple classes, enjoy the game as you see fit, please just choose the healer that appeals to “You” and have fun, I play WHM, and I don’t regret it, I also play SGE, but more rarely as I am used to WHM, it is just a fun healer to use and can clear all the content in the game, besides if people think it is too weak we can just ask for it to get super buffed, maybe add 7 lilies and more thin air x33, can anybody else think of some fun “totally balanced” Buffs?
@housecat_
2 жыл бұрын
Despite being simple and obviously somewhat obnoxious, I LOVE Holy for trash pulls. Like you said the interrupt to ground AOE is something people forget about, in addition to the stun!
@florence9606
2 жыл бұрын
I was going to try out AST but when the npc was like "the stars foretold you would arrive this day to begin your training" I went "oh actually I'm just passing through" because his reaction to his prophecy being wrong was so funny. I totally forgot about the job as I kept going through msq up to Stormblood lol. I'll probably go back to try it eventually, but I'm having a lot of fun with WHM and Sage.
@Navebackwards1
2 жыл бұрын
Could you possibly expand on what you mean by "I've seen a lot of WHM players become lazy with how they play"? I enjoy WHM and I'm only at level 70 and I feel like I'm probably going to become lazy if I haven't already.
@jimi_jams
2 жыл бұрын
I think he’s pointing out the Glare Mage side there, where WHM forget they have to actually heal and not just spam Holy and Glare in dungeons. The other healers don’t have access to a reliable aoe stun spell to use as strong damage mitigation and so are needing to use their healing abilities more. It’s a minority of players for sure, as long as one remembers that keeping the party alive > one more Holy cast, it’s all good.
@SemekiIzuio
2 жыл бұрын
@@jimi_jams that sounds like WHM AST that depend on SCH SGE to do all the work lol
@vivi1649
2 жыл бұрын
Been playing since 2013, started on PS3. One day in 2020 I said to myself _"I want fairies"_ and I've never been more comfortable on a job than I am with SCH. Fairies were the only reason why I decided to pick the job up.
@vivi1649
2 жыл бұрын
@firstbass789 Oh I just thought they were cute. And then I learned the class xD
@MOFOfromearth
2 жыл бұрын
Does race matters? I mean.. I wanna play as healer for sure but I can't understand if all of those race combos matter!
@Jolsn
2 жыл бұрын
They don't, play anything you like!
@alyssinwilliams4570
2 жыл бұрын
I Scholar main and I *LOVE* it. I almost can't Astrologian or White Mage cause Ive gotten so used to 1> Galvanize and 2> The Faeries. I do need to work on that - White Mages get a UNICORN MOUNT for free (via a quest) at level 30, which is amazing and Im super-envious of that :( I would love to have a mount for my Scholar thats like... a giant grimoire they surfboard around on, or something
@SemekiIzuio
2 жыл бұрын
Or mount on Eos Selene xD Hell Fey would be cool too like the pod to just grab you by the wrist and fly you around
@YoooWTFwasThat
Жыл бұрын
I boosted an AST as my first ever character in FF14, entirely because of this video. So logically, you're now responsible for every time my raid dies. Great video
@NargaCat
2 жыл бұрын
"What is the best healer in Endwalker?" A competent one. I saved you 15 minutes.
@holschermarc
Жыл бұрын
I would like to add that the slow stabilizing regen heals are on all 4 healers. Shieldhealer vs Pure Healer is more a matter of healing recieved damage vs mitigating damage in the first place. Also both Sage aswell as Scholar should not be underestimated in terms of raw healing potential. While Whitemage and Astro have more that doesnt mean u should just shield and mitigate as a Shieldhealer. Ur contribution to raw healing is equally important. For example if a Tank recieves 80k damage after a Tankbuster a raw healer can heal 60k while the shield healer heals 20k. A lot less but still important. In the end both variants are HEALERS. Recit+Excog from Scholar or Zoe+Pneuma from Sage are incredible at burst healing shit tons of HP.
@dustinhatfield8373
2 жыл бұрын
Most guides describe whm as the easy healer but i gotts be honest its the healer job i sweat with the most in 90 content. AST feels like easy mode amd SCH is fine unless an emergency happens that i fail to contain and then panic mode sets in lol. Last night i accidentally ate my fairy when i instesd was wanting to use Fey Blessing. I was so confused as to why i couldnt use any fairy abilities lol
@Itama22
2 жыл бұрын
I'm playing healer in almost every game where this is possible and I started with FF14 playing as White Mage and it's till today my favourite job of all and my go to healer. It's toolkit might look simple but it's a lot of fun to play with and actually a lot of stuff to optimize due to the overworked and added OGCDs with endwalker. It's almost not possible to run out of MP when utilizing the new Thin Air well. You can keep up the tank in Dungeons with only your OGCDs and spam the saved lilys while having donwtime, so you got 4 Blood Lilys for every single Wall to Wall Pull after the first boss for a HUGE damage burst in combination with Assize and no damage loss whatsoever. And your big nuke heals makes it even possible and pretty comfortable to solo heal some savage content as an extra challenge, so you can have also have an extra DPS in the group :D White Mage is simply love
@martin.97
2 жыл бұрын
great video as always! keeping it informative and funny :) loved the meme on scholar hahah caught me off guard since i wasn't looking
@torchick163
2 жыл бұрын
I started Endwalker with Sage and played all the new content and savage fights with this job, and I absolutely love it. I mained Astrologian in all of Shadowbringers, so I basically had to re-learn the job after playing Sage for so long. One thing I wish they would change about Astrologian is turning Minor Arcana and Crown play into the same button. AST has quite a lot of buttons to press in a short amount of time to maximize damage, and it is quite different than it was before!
@drtyprior
2 жыл бұрын
How do you feel about the changes now
@Splatboy0612
Жыл бұрын
Sage is good and I like this healer, but sadly I don't have Endwalker
@wolfwood221
2 жыл бұрын
My healer journey started after I already had a max level tank and ranged dps, it was just wanting to fill the role slots if it was ever needed. That said, I tried WHM and never made it past level 32. Didn't hate it, but just felt bland (Given, like all other jobs, it only gets better the higher level). I haven't tried SCH out yet, and I've maybe healed one or two dungeons as SGE to try it out... But why would I do that when the best healing job is AST? Nothing feels better than weaving a layer of timed aoe heals while keeping up damage and tossing cards around your team, at least from a healer standpoint. Earthly Star is beautiful, we grant a party damage buff - not counting cards, have a few minor shields and *layers* of regen spells to bandaid other's oopsies. The job is too damn fun and looks even better.
@DeadSpaceWing
9 ай бұрын
The only reason I'll level a healer is to get job quests In Shadowbringers/Endwalker finished. And most likely it'll be SCH, since it shares SMN levels. Other than that, tab targeting my fellow party members I'm supposed to heal along with the enemies I'm supposed to DPS sounds like a Machiavellian nightmare. NO THANKS.
@kingrushy4533
2 жыл бұрын
My 1st healer was a conjurer I got it to 30, never used it again. Then I picked up astr and nearly beat the entire game with it. I absolutely love it.
@Muphinman2
Жыл бұрын
AST is where it’s at. 1st off. Card drawing is not confusing at all. Just put on dps or tank. The special other card is just an aoe heal or hopefully an aoe dps. After 3 card stacks you get a nice boof. Single target big heal. 5/10 AoE heal that puts hots out 10/10 That’s it. Plus you get an insta cast oh shiiiii button and later it becomes two stacks. 7/10 Big aoe explosion dps heal. Looks amazing must wait forever after placing on ground. Great for dps 8/10 Weak single target insta cast with amazing hot 9/10 Oh Shiiiiiiiiiii aoe heal big CD 20/10 Later on you get two really nice CDs that you have to play around with the fight. Once you get fights figured out you can do a lot a lot a lot of preventive absorb heals and another one that makes your hots insta heal but also continue to heal. Astro best healer in game.
@Y0G0FU
2 жыл бұрын
i really hate the Trend of Healers being a worse DPS in MMOs that emerged in the last few years. I picked the healing Job up way back in the early WoW days because i liked keeping people alive and not having to press a dmg rotation (maybe throw a dot here and there on the Boss or apply a debuff if i have a free GCD between boss dmg windows). But it has become the opposite in many games.. you press your damage rotation and throw in some healing spells that are OGCD and only in very niche scenarios you actually sacrifice a GCD for a strong healing skill. If i want to press a damage rotation i play tank or damage dealer goddamnit! :P But anyway.. my healer of Choice is the WHM because... we dont have many dmg skills and we still heal alot within the GCD :D
@joshmackenzie
2 жыл бұрын
This was really indepth thank you! I'm a WHM main I haven't really dabbled in the others so it was cool to see the good overview. I love playing WHM and love casting those big juicy heals.
@kingblackthorn4195
2 жыл бұрын
I am a healer and tank main myself. Pretty much exclusivly play them. I think the good thing about healers in this game is that they are all good and genuinely great options for you to play. Honestly, there is no true "best healer". With that being said my personal favorite is Sage because it just feels so good to play. It is rewarding, it is a new and funky playstyle compared to the others, it has a cool theme and just feels like a really great and awesome breath of fresh air to the game, and role of healer.
@Y0G0FU
2 жыл бұрын
Well Numbers say that AST is the "best" healer currently. But then again.. a well played WHM will always beat a mediocre played AST so.. it doesnt matter wich healer you play as long as you play it well :D Sage is fun, WHM is fun, AST is fun and Scholar is fun. And all are viable
@turntapeover5749
7 ай бұрын
Ive played for a long time and pre shadowbringers I would have talked about nuances but post Shadowbringers im more "They're the same person" meme.
@toychristopher
2 жыл бұрын
White Mage is the best (and cutest) healer.
@jaredsmith4734
2 жыл бұрын
was looking for a endwalker healer breakdown like this, thanks. I still dunno if i like whm or sch better. probably go with sch. being able to move while spamming art of war feels good. it is sad that they took away dots and cleric stance and stuff, but i do like the simplicity.
@shae4538
2 жыл бұрын
SCH's speed boost isn't just speed. It's also a 10% dmg reduction on use.
@zinogama5084
Жыл бұрын
Idk I am a scholar/warrior main and I personally don't really like playing whm or sge especially sge everytime I play that job something feels wrong to me, might go and try out ast tho since I haven't leveled that job so far
@noyou9379
8 ай бұрын
I am a sage main and I went all the way I could doing white mage to unlock sage. I loved playing white mage but was disappointed in the damage abilities which was the appeal of sage healing while dpsing on top of heals. This not only made dungeons and raids more fun but also soloing as I could heal myself just by attacking
@corbenikgaming7688
8 ай бұрын
As a player that’s leveled up and plays every healer class If anything, I’d say that Sage is more of a challenging healer job than anything else since out of all of them it has the weakest of healing potential it’s a class that you have to be very active with in order to stay on top of damage mitigation and healing. It’s not for lazy healers because if you are then you’re gonna wipe a lot more often than with astrologian or with any of the other two healing classes.
@dalgona4819
Жыл бұрын
Started with NIN (trial), became MNK and DNC, now AST. Why did I pick the keyboard destroying jobs 🤣
@thevoxdeus
5 ай бұрын
Man, Astro used to be so cool when it could swap back and forth between barrier and HOT healing
@setsuna5919
2 жыл бұрын
In Blood Whetting we Trust 😎
@slashy1219
Жыл бұрын
What's the easiest Healer for controller. I've been wanting to use a healer class but scared I might screw up big time in a dungeon.
@bigquazz3955
2 жыл бұрын
One note about the rdps difference in sage vs sch... You wont see that difference in 99% of groups you play in. Sch's raid buff, chain stratagem, puts it ahead in rdps assuming that your group is able capitalize on it properly. It's also assuming that your raw damage is at maximum by using the majority of sch's aether stacks on energy drain instead of heals. Sage will out preform sch's rdps in almost every group outside of highly optimized parse runs. Both Sages healing and damage is free compared to sch.
@aresanu
2 жыл бұрын
Beginner to Elite WHM,SGE SCH,AST Each class is different in its own right. If YOU DO NOT WANT TO HEAL DO NOT GO HEALER if you do not want to heal. Healing IS NOT FOR YOU TO DPS.
@OrodrethN77
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I just discovered your channel and since I started playing a month ago, it's really helpful you have no idea ! I leveled up (between others) white mage but man is it boring... I know level 50 is far from being the final gameplay, but still. I'm really intriguied by astrologian and your video further convinced me, thanks ! I was wondering, are you considering doing a video with this format on DPS ? Even if I have a vague idea of each job I really would like to hear your thoughts on them, since I can't settle on yet
@zeening
2 жыл бұрын
desperius does
@Otacanthus
2 жыл бұрын
It's not that scholar is bad statistics wise. The problems people have with scholar is that the job isn't fun to play. It's incredibly clunky and plays like an old class in need of an update, like paladin. The fact that artherflow is still in the game is shocking. Even for summoner it was removed as a mechanic in replacing it as just the summoners ogcds.
@KyokujiFGC
2 жыл бұрын
Scholar does seem unnecessarily complicated compared to something like Sage, which is way more faceroll.
@nonaacris1720
2 жыл бұрын
for the love of god, stop asking the devs to make the class easier. I'm actually mad I lost my old summoner, don't give them ideas about scholar.
@nicholasgarrett742
Жыл бұрын
I really wanna try sage but am weirdly terrified of playing healer for the first time.
@GodHexe
Ай бұрын
Subscribed, your videos are peaceful to listen to
@dinovoldo544
2 жыл бұрын
Sage has great mobility. I like AST because of the buffs they can give to party members and you cannot run out of mama with it.
@brylle5695
8 ай бұрын
Astro is so fun but i agree, it's hecka hard to play
@bleukreuz
Жыл бұрын
I hate scholar because they have so many abilities due to some of them being fairy abilities and some of them your own abilities. I also don't like the aetherflow system, mainly because it does not regenerate automatically like addersgall/lily and it is just one more thing to track. Then there is aetherpact which causes your fairy to be bound to one player and thus making you unable to use other fairy abilities until it is finished or cancelled. Thankfully I like summoner so Scholar gets automatically levelled up without a lot of hassle So far my healer job of choice are: 1) Sage 2) Astrologian 3) White mage 4) Scholar
@pngmk2
Жыл бұрын
Same thing for me. Reading SCH toolkit cause my brain hurt even I play SCH from lvl 1 non-stop to 70. Since then I have stopped playing and level thru SMN instead. Even starting SGE at lvl 70 with learning to use 15 abilities all at once didn't cause that much trouble to me ngl.
@mastersparkeeone
2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty new to healing in ff14. What stats are most important? Piety of course but should I be stacking another? Crit, spell speed?
@warman13x
2 жыл бұрын
Assuming you have good gear, you probably don't need to worry about your piety stat. At least in most cases from my understanding. I think typically crit is priority followed by either direct hit or determination. Best in slot will change this slightly, though. So keep in mind that this is only a general rule. And spell speed is mostly a comfort stat than anything else
@erankel3949
2 жыл бұрын
The usual progression of focus is as follow : Det + Piety at start. Then convert Piety to crit has you get more confident in your MP management. Det is a good base stat it help having a flat regular gain in performances where crit is more random... if you luckout at the bad time you struggle to heal someone. Spell speed in third to help with regen ticks but not much... most of heals cast are 1.5s for 2.5GCD... While levveling up Gear sets have balanced stats that do the work so don't go to hard on yourself ^^
@SemekiIzuio
2 жыл бұрын
Piety? Um I rather use Spell speed or direct hit/crit
@KyleBrown-xn1dn
Жыл бұрын
Even if I try to stick with one job, I just can't stop myself from switching constantly. adhd problems probably
@Jolsn
Жыл бұрын
That's the thing with FFXIV, you can absolutely do that. No one's telling you that you have to stick to one thing. When I do roulettes I play a different job every single time, it's actually quite fun!
@starburst630
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly Sage is most favored because it has better visuals the sch
@devinrussell59
Жыл бұрын
I've always called "pure" healers, regen healers.
@PunkFiddler
8 ай бұрын
Personally, SCH > AST > SGE > WHM
@Denzel8875
2 жыл бұрын
absolutly loving the SGE after maining the AST for a while , and suprisingly we (my savage roster) found that SGE and SCH work amazingly well together even in savage , the amount of mitigation you have is great , you have almost no need to worry about your tanks even considering the massive dots they get in this savage tier thank to the Kardia and the fairy , and the damage consistancy of this two job makes it very great when it comes to the team s rdps. if you never tried this comp please do , that s lot of fun ^^
@alonsotoon
11 ай бұрын
Trick question, there's only one!
@shezyam460
Жыл бұрын
what is the background music?
@shadikhoury1
Жыл бұрын
the barrier provided by sage is not a dps loss coz when the barrier gets destroyed u get a stack of Toxikon (i think it's called that) to use as aoe dps
@Jolsn
Жыл бұрын
At that point you still cast a heal for 2.5 seconds. You do get a stack of Toxicon, which deals the same amount of damage as your basic Dosis, but that doesn't mean that for casting the spell you didn't lose 2.5 seconds during which you could have cast a damaging spell. The only benefit of Toxicon is that it's an instant cast, so the next time you have to move, you can cast that instead of Dosis. The only healer that can do that DPS neutral is White Mage, due to the Lillies.
@ai2802
5 ай бұрын
My friend who has played this game a TON loves Scholar. I'll be starting soon and cannot wait to start playing a White Mage. I always get anxious playing healers and tanks so very rarely play them, but am looking forward to getting started! Sorry meant to say Glaremage.
@jefferymuter4659
7 ай бұрын
Returned to ffxiv after years. While excited to grind through the newer expansions, I was always a healer. I hope I find Sage fun. As of right now, it looks like Scholars second fiddle. Astro has so many unique mechanics it seems fine to have a second fiddle to wm with a huge sifference in play style and fashion.
@iPlayOnSpica
Жыл бұрын
One thing I really want to see changed (more accurately, fixed) for SCH is the pet jank. If you're in a kiting situation, most of your faerie abilities will miss if executed because they can't keep up with sprinting players. None of the other healers have this problem. If the pet is set to Heel, they need to stay completely glued to their owner, including when they're under sprint or other mobility buffs. I also think they should maneuver faster when the Place command is used on them.
@The69Oskar69
Жыл бұрын
I will never understand why everybody say Astro is the most difficult healer. So far I tried Sage, Scholar and Astro and that last one is in my opinion the easiest one with a huge margine, there is literally nothing complicated about him, huge and easy to use heals and not to be bored in the meantime you have cards to use. I dislike the changes they made to him as I cannot use the 3 signs the way I always want it. Previously when I had all 3 signs ready for the best aoe buff and I had a new card I could use it as a king or queen for 8% st buff and not ruin my 3 different signs that were waiting for a bigger fight. Now when you have a new card and want to use it (good to buff your team all the time :p) you will ruin your setup, so whenever you have 3 signs ready you must use them at the moment not to ruin your best self buff, makes zero sense to me. I mean sure you can discard a card but if you want to keep the buff for lets say 2 mins even, you lose 4 cards...
@Skall-ex
2 жыл бұрын
I've played FFXIV for 400 hours, with white mage as only battle job currently at level 75, and I have no idea how I'm supposed to "weave". I mean, I'm always casting, and doing a decent job of DPS-ing imo. I find it hard to believe anyone would notice if I shaved a few seconds off a boss fight due to "perfect weaving". But obviously I'm missing something since it's a thing.
@madmarduk1936
Жыл бұрын
Blood Lily needs a huge buff.
@kd9-3.77
Жыл бұрын
"Small barrier to target" a 1000 potency shield if used back to back is bigger than any single shield the shieldhealers can apply (without a crit ofc)
@Timotheuster
2 жыл бұрын
Play AST simply because it has the best LB3. Then steal LB3 whenever it's available :D Your party will love you I swear...
@Robulite
2 жыл бұрын
Sage best for dungeons. Scholar best for 8 man environments where raid buffs are lined up correctly if they aren't lined up well then you might as well play Sage. If your pure healer sucks you can play Sage and counteract that without DPS loss. Also Sage doesn't have to lose DPS to spot heal. As a shield healer you basically only shield during downtime. Sage has an AoE healing burst... Just Use Zoe Pneuma and Panheima great for burst heals. Plenty of other skills stack with it just read your skills so you know what order to use things in. White Mage I despise in dungeons the 2.5 second cast time AoE sucks. It does less damage but gets a stun. But then when you want to stun things you can't. And then on top of that the cast time is so long if an AoE is going to go off you have to move and cancel the cast... Astro is fun after you learn the cards :)
@k2k4
2 жыл бұрын
Sage starts at 70, you have to play as a magical ranged DPS before you can pick up scholar, and (as you showed) white mage does the least DPS of the healers. I definitely think they all have benefits and drawbacks. I feel more like a healer when playing white mage than sage, but I think Scholar and Astrologian provide the best heals/party buffs of the options available. Is that DPS chart you showed including DPS provided to the party by the buffs provided? If not I think the gap is much larger - Ast and Scholar are probably the best in my opinion simply because of the additional utilities they provide. But as you said, all options are viable. Also scholar levels up arcanist too so you get 2 jobs for 1 if you're still leveling your jobs, so there's that too if you're still picking what to play as a new player. This would be my recommended class out of the 4 if you absolutely want to be a healer. Sage has been directly compared to scholar too (probably because of the shields) so if you wanted to change at 70 then you could.
@milat9287
2 жыл бұрын
I just wish they'd bring back the fun cards. The system being changed to what it is now just feels thoroughly mediocre. A system that would excite and reward or disappoint you based on your current situation was replaced with a system that requires more attention from you so that it can promise to disappoint you 100% of the time. Having recently lost their stances too, they hardly have any personality left to distinguish them from WHM..
@Amoes21
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to have high level healer class but I am straight ass cheeks when it comes to remembering rotations and panic. Used a level up book instead :/
@zeninspriggan794
2 жыл бұрын
Really AST is easy on the contrary I hate whm and struggled with scholar when I first tried it.. sage I can't yet say as I haven't played it enough
@EnvyTooGoon
2 жыл бұрын
Its no surprise SGE is at the top, SGE does alot of dps as a healer and also mitigates quite well. WHM on second is good but i’d argue AST could be right there. It all depends on team synergy since AST can buff certain members’ dmg and the entire group at times.
@TheLovelyluxray
2 жыл бұрын
Sages who give kardia and then never heal drive me CRAZY
@Momoka7
2 жыл бұрын
So you have to deal damage as Healer in FF14? What if watching the HP Bars is already more then enough work for you?
@vindurza
Жыл бұрын
Astro is my healer of choice purely cause I wanted to make my healer look like a con artist and the cards enhanced that. But after learning the class I have a ton of fun playing it.
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