I used to be 440 460 stihl guy, then when I tried a husqvarna 562xp when it first came out I switched, but that 400c has changed my outlook AGAIN, it's a very good saw.
@ErelasInglor
Жыл бұрын
This video along with several other reviews on multiple comparable saws in this category (mainly Husq, Stihl, and Echo) all lead me to realize the solid American built Echo is what I want to purchase, thank you!
@md-fq9ye
Жыл бұрын
Echo is Japaneese built 😊
@ErelasInglor
Жыл бұрын
@@md-fq9ye Correction, Echo is a subsidiary of a Japanese company that makes some parts and models, Echo is a company out of Illinois that still manufactures and assembles most of the equipment sold in the U.S.
@Nick-hb3sk
Жыл бұрын
@@ErelasInglormaybe some stuff but not my 590, my 330EVL, my 620p my 3020T or my PPT2620 all made in Japan
@ErelasInglor
Жыл бұрын
@@Nick-hb3sk Just bought a new CS-590 Timberwolf and it was completely built in the U.S. When was yours made?
@terrykrall
2 жыл бұрын
The more I watch new saws.... I’m glad I still have my ancient 064... and it is still dependable and serviceable..
@TheWoodsmanMilling
Жыл бұрын
I'd love to have an 064 and 084. Then again, I like the older saws in general.
@terrykrall
Жыл бұрын
@@TheWoodsmanMilling …. i gave my 064 to my neighbor for 10 minutes and when I came back, it was smoking and no compression. I took it to the Stihl dealer to give me a price for rebuild or get a new saw and he said it was well worth the $800 OEM rebuild. I’ve had it back a year and it’s a beast. It is heavy, ugly and eats wood with an angry attitude, gives me a workout. I think the other old big saw still serviceable is the 046, Stihl still makes OEM pistons and jugs for it I believe.
@joshuajohnson4396
2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. The stihl400s are hard to beat. Can't wait to see how it turns out
@chuckwagon7171
2 жыл бұрын
What's nice about the 7310 is the ability to replace the rotating assembly in about 15 mins....and for about $80.... Not that you want a saw to blow up. But if it does you can do this as a beginner mechanic easily. The 400 is a 2-3 hr rebuild, very sizable teardown...and around $250
@nothanks9050
6 ай бұрын
What's really nice is the 7310 is a tank and you'll probably never need to. Just don't lend it to the neighbour, straight gas Gary!
@duck-n-cover477
2 ай бұрын
Yep, love the 400, I have one, but for the performance I demand, it needs a sharp chain, a muffler mod (like Bark Box or Straight Shot) and don't run more than 20" bar. Need more? Then go for a lot more diaplacement.
@glenspryszak6005
2 жыл бұрын
Of course, all chainsaws have a sweet spot where they perform flawlessly. A chainsaw has got to know its' limitations... That Stihl is 7cc's smaller so there is over a 10% difference in size.....
@dentondunn4346
2 жыл бұрын
If I ever bought another new Stihl it would be the 400c only.
@TheDennys21
Жыл бұрын
My money is on Echo, it's cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, very reliable and all Echo saws have a 5 year warranty which is just awesome.
@ChristopherMcDowell-h5f
Жыл бұрын
One year commercial warranty still better then battling w the other two brands
@TheDennys21
Жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherMcDowell-h5f what do you mean battling with the 2 other brands?
@ChristopherMcDowell-h5f
Жыл бұрын
I e stihl and there dealer only OEM parts husky is better but still a pain to get warranty
@TheDennys21
Жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherMcDowell-h5f i see.
@coreyriley7160
2 жыл бұрын
Cool comparison. How do you like the Forester Platinum bar for the Echo ?
@baitammo4652
2 жыл бұрын
My 400 gained a bunch after several tanks ran thru it
@benschlack5814
2 жыл бұрын
that echo needs a more aggressive chain as well let chunks fly
@majorpixchannel7146
2 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from you! You're personality is a lot like mine lol 😆 I too have lots of saws and sawmill ext ext! Love the nursing home set up you guys have! Supper cool! I started a channel about chainsawmilling and building with ruff cut! Love your channel I never miss a episode!!!
@johngardner3020
10 ай бұрын
Id like to see a 3 way wack off between these 2 saws and the echo 800p with a 24 and 36 inch bar.
@Jesusiskingamen7
2 жыл бұрын
The echo looks sick I like those three point dogs on there
@ToddAdams1234
2 жыл бұрын
You can get them from westcoastsaws
@cortraulston218
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that man! I’m sure they’ll be much more useful when I get my saw back that’s ported and can handle those aggressive things. I usually cut oak and pecan around where I’m at so they aren’t a huge help but they help a lot when I’m doing a sideways cut like on the trunk. They were like 40 bucks
@JZ909
Жыл бұрын
I work with a 400 and own a 7310. The 400 is a great medium saw in terms of weight and power. It feels like what a 362 should be. However, interior only (and small) dogs and no full wrap option feels bad for a 60 + CC saw. The 7310 is a big, heavy saw. It's weak for its size/weight out of the box. However, it does everything else right. The torque is great, the dogs are good, there is a full wrap option etc. It feels like the person who designed the saw uses chainsaws. IMO, Stihls generally need a more aggressive set of dogs, but that's about it and you've got a good saw. In contrast, Echos need to be ported, which is much more involved, but once ported they are amazing.
@jameslowder418
Жыл бұрын
My 7310 was weak for about 10 to 12 hrs or 12 fuel ups then power seem to double . Runs a 36in bar with no complaints
@bentwedgestanleybrand5818
2 жыл бұрын
Well I just picked up the ms400c and I have the echo 7310. I have 20 inch and 24 inch bars. I have 28 and 32 inch bars. But I also have the cs800p
@dentondunn4346
2 жыл бұрын
Which is your go to, and how's the 400 compare to the others
@Ya-never-know
2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the 400 squeaked out the win in the glide down, just by a fuzz
@MrFerrantealdoyoutub
Жыл бұрын
io non capisco ma di iqueste motoseghe servono per tagliare legna oppure per andare in pista a indianapolis?🤔 si vede ad occhio nudo che la lama della Echo non taaglia bene.....io ho acquistato la 6210x ha uuna potenza ai tronchi gli fa la barba pelo e contro pelo.
@aaronneher4860
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been eyeing both these models because they are only $25 difference. Dealer I use sells both echo and stihl. My only issue is I have an 036 that I love but I know if I bought the 400 I’d probably never pick up the 036 again. Saw mechanic said the echo pulls like an 044 and everyone that’s bought one loves theirs.
@novicelumberjack
Жыл бұрын
The Echo needs a port job. Without it...meh. not bad at all, but feels kinda big and heavy for that amount of power. But with a port job...You're blown away. It's amazing. If you're looking for a big saw, get the Echo and then down the road, port it. If you're looking for a medium saw... get the 400 and just love it for what it is.
@ejsocci2630
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos 👊🏻
@briannelson4493
5 ай бұрын
I like my Echoes and I like Stihl I think Echo is a little better saw but side by side they both cut that’s what interests me.
@woodhunter2580
Жыл бұрын
Greeating your have machine bro,how much money,that is.
@Jesusiskingamen7
2 жыл бұрын
The echo had to cut using the chain that just had three cuts on hard wood so it wasn’t as sharp as when the still started
@Moosehound597
2 жыл бұрын
If he knows how to sharpen, that's simply not true.
@ToddAdams1234
2 жыл бұрын
@@Moosehound597 it’s supposed to be “out of the box” so there goes the filing comments. But yes, I agree. It really needs to be a fresh file job before ANY cuts for it to be fair.
@Moosehound597
2 жыл бұрын
@@ToddAdams1234 ok if it's out the box three cuts won't dull that chain is all im saying.
@Jesusiskingamen7
2 жыл бұрын
Three cuts won’t dull it no but I can promise you after three back to back cuts in that wood it will not be as sharp as it was out the box
@Moosehound597
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jesusiskingamen7 I'm not going to argue with someone that probably cuts once a month.
@davidgoliath982
2 жыл бұрын
should be running a 462 i would think?
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Just comparing what I had in front of me.
@rebeccarobinson7024
2 жыл бұрын
OK I stopped by my dealer hour ago that carries both echo and sthil price of them both was same which one would u recommend running say 5 hours a day that's with 24in bar on both power weight economics hard oak etc
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
24" bar and no bigger...400c all the way. But if your gonna slap a bigger bar, like 28" or 32"...7310 for sure. And once ported, the 7310 is very hard to beat.
@rebeccarobinson7024
2 жыл бұрын
@@novicelumberjack ok ya if i go to 28 or bigger have my redmax 7100 for that have ran it with 28 before had 2 trees the 28 and 20 on one of saws i had at that time wasnt big enough to cut through it one was a 180year old live oak and a piss elm
@davidcarpenter8741
Жыл бұрын
Timberwolf with a 28 skip all day! In oak, ash, buried!
@georgehofgren6123
Жыл бұрын
Running Skip on a 32 on my Echo 600p (same motor). OEM bar ($$). Slightly nose heavy but handles it like nobody's business 😉
@johnmullins6946
2 жыл бұрын
The 7310 I got, it's got a 32" on it and it eats oak like it's nothing. It's stock
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Is it the most powerful saw you have? Because...it's power is really put into perspective when you run something with much more power and you quickly realize...oh- what I thought was powerful, was actually just kinda mediocre. I really like the 7310, but they are not known to be powerful saws in stock form. I used to think a 455 Rancher was really powerful.
@johnmullins6946
2 жыл бұрын
@@novicelumberjack 500i is the biggest I've got. My 7310 on some days will out cut it and of course it's the other way around. I know all saws are not the same and not tuned the same. But when I first got my 7310 during break in stage it was very sluggish.(fat) after it broke in and I tuned it HELLO.
@jameslowder418
Жыл бұрын
@@johnmullins6946 my 7310 felt like a 50cc saw when new after the break in stage seem like a whole new saw .it's been great
@michelleruger9394
2 жыл бұрын
Where’s the cut resistance pants??
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
On the shelf with barbie dolls and stuffed animals.
@majorpixchannel7146
2 жыл бұрын
Doing good work brother
@benjaminleslie3155
2 жыл бұрын
It would be really funny if the ms400 beat the 7310
@andrewfitzgerald1174
2 жыл бұрын
In smaller to mid size wood it probably will lol
@andyjones6361
Жыл бұрын
Why in the heck didn’t Stihl have enough freaking brains to incorporate the ccs into the model #. People that don’t know their product line have no idea what size their saw is!!
@Cholton222
2 жыл бұрын
Nice man. I like the echo's stock they do suck. Lol.
@playingwivwood
2 жыл бұрын
Where you want your chain shipped??
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
Text me. 678-603-0052
@jamessammann9183
2 жыл бұрын
Did trees for 43 years echo all day
@adrianstefan23
2 жыл бұрын
Ms 400c👉👍👍👍👍🏅
@jaydee2620
2 жыл бұрын
IMO the 462 , 362, and 261 are overpriced. The 400c tho seems to be worth every penny. I say u keep it !!
@novicelumberjack
2 жыл бұрын
It is a VERY nice saw, but...still a bit too pricey. I'm not really complaining though. I'd rather have it than probably anything else you could buy for a grand. So yeah.
@benschlack5814
2 жыл бұрын
that stihl can handle a more aggressive chain all day
@bethanyhaskiell9116
2 жыл бұрын
The Stihl didnt want to go down through the wood with pressure on it the saw bogged so if it had a more aggressive chain it would've really bogged down
@benschlack5814
2 жыл бұрын
That's the whole point is to cut bigger chunks and not press down hard on the saw you got those saws revving to the moon and spitting out saw dust that's how you smoke a bar
@benschlack5814
2 жыл бұрын
You should have chips spitting out not saw dust the saw was bogging down because your jamming the chain into the bar it called friction
@benschlack5814
2 жыл бұрын
Let saw cut
@thelumberjacktv6882
2 жыл бұрын
amazing chainsaw
@crazyfeller5704
2 жыл бұрын
👍
@joshuasweet1532
2 жыл бұрын
Stihl sucks I'll never buy another good job keep strokin
@davidgoliath982
2 жыл бұрын
stihl as a company does suck now. stihl pro saws are hard to beat overall. they are overpriced though. the homeowner saws like the 311 - 391 are overpriced crap! might be the worst cylinder design ever. the e.p.a. sure the hell has not made life any easier on the manufacturers. these a$$wipes making the regs. have probably never picked up a saw
@andrewslagle1974
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidgoliath982 biden and the dem marxist party.People keep voting for them .They sure have done wonders in 1.8 years!
@lennyadanfigueroasobino1921
Жыл бұрын
Compara la echo 7310 con la dolmar makita 7900, si quieres poder y rapidez echo no tiene nada que hacer al lado de esa motosierra.
@superdizzy78
2 жыл бұрын
Bullshit i dont believe in these VS . Echo is a great saw
@baitammo4652
2 жыл бұрын
7cc is a bunch of difference, the echo should beat it!
@benitocamela8541
2 жыл бұрын
Echo for the win once again. Echo is cheaper and just as good or better than STEAL!
@andrewslagle1974
2 жыл бұрын
the 7310s are not cheep any more not much difference in price we just got them a few weeks ago i prefer the stihl that 400 is a great saw!
@rebeccarobinson7024
2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewslagle1974 ya the 400 and the echo was around 1100 where I live here in TX trying to see which one to get running several hours a day thinking leaning towards the sthil because has power of my redmax 7100/ Husqvarna 372 but close to weight of my 545 which run 90 of time but like have a 24plus bar OK one that's light weight and I can run several hours a day and seems like the sthil be a good fit
@vikingpower95
Жыл бұрын
STIHL !!!!!!!!! No STEAL
@D70340
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewslagle1974 Shop around, i got my 7310 for $849 just a couple weeks ago. The deals are out there. Some of the dealers are gouging the customers.
@shelbywilson114
Жыл бұрын
I must've been lucky I got my echo 7310 ported for 1100 brand new
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