This was a slaughter. Makes me even angrier that MS didn't release this version first. It could have been a really good first impression of them getting back into the MP scale game. But then again, even for legends, this has always been their business model.
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, they really should have done this one first, and then offered a cheaper version for those that didn't need the paint
@thenormie
Жыл бұрын
I can’t find anyone selling the original version anymore T-T
@Getloose360
Жыл бұрын
Great comparison, thank you.. MP-44 was damn near $500 bones. The build issues are unforgivable at that price point. The MS pound for pound is the better looking version for a 1/3 the price. I have every last Prime, 44, 44KO, TE, TE cell shaded, MS 1.0, MS 2.0 and 2.0 EX. (Heck even MP10) I spent the $$$. The 2.0 on the shelf surrounded by other MP figures is phenomenal.
@Getloose360
Жыл бұрын
The members choice poll isn’t surprising. Takara apologists are entitled to their opinions. Lol
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@triplechangers9611
Жыл бұрын
I really like my magic square Prime. I just got him the other week and I think he looks fantastic. The paint on him is really good and I really like his articulation a lot. Great review!
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Piece-O-Pie
Жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison for sure! I have both the official MP44 and the MS-02EX; it took a while, but The MS is really starting to look good to me, but I do think it has big gorilla paws. A couple of things in this comparison would turn out differently for me, though. The paint on MP44 is superb, even after a couple of transformations, no problems. I also have no knee- or other joint issues; it just has great articulation, and no loose joints. The main problems I have with the figure are stylistic; the abdomen that doesn’t continue down to the hip-section and the rather bulky backpack. But the head-sculpt of MP44 to me is the best one out of all of the third party Primes, which, with this character especially, is huge. Just my two cents!
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, sounds like you got a good copy of mp44 to hold onto
@markhimself44
Жыл бұрын
Love the look of the Magicsquare. Even the antenna ears look wayy better. Def gonna have to pull the trigger on this one.
@dustyyshellz1320
Жыл бұрын
Amazing as usual and glad the reception wasn’t bad like you were expecting!😂 Awesome review
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dusty
@giocollections
9 ай бұрын
mmm, hi, To taste, I have the MP 44 and I saw the MS, and we have to be honest, the quality of the plastic is not better, although they achieved improvements and a greater range of articulation, we are talking about a long time later and it is clear that they were based on the MP44 to try to make a new one, there are details of the MS that cannot be, (that the elbow of the arm is hollow).-to be fair I think it is a good figure at a good price but the real MP 44 not the KO, It is better in paint quality.-
@Godsize1976
10 ай бұрын
Excellent comparison! I have the MP-10 next to Apollyon, and the MS next to Takara Megatron on my shelf… I am one happy collector!
@laxiton
Жыл бұрын
I think MS actually really looks like some sort of MACK Cruiseliners from the early 80's and therefore more realistic. Many MP Prime's look like something more modern than GEEE-ONE
@stevenhernandez9616
Жыл бұрын
Another great comparison! Glad to see this as I was getting a little sad having sold my 2 KO MP44s while waiting on my new MS02 EX to arrive. I will say, I do like the rounded fingers that Takara does on their MP hands and wish MS would’ve done that type, but fully articulated instead. To me, the MS hands look a little too big, but that’s a small gripe for an overall superior figure.
@ZeldaGamerLd401
Жыл бұрын
glad you were able to do a comparison after all
@mcloutierg8201
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations you have me second guessing myself about sticking with TE01 after watching this video.
@OogaBooga24723
7 ай бұрын
You should get the MS if you can the transformation is soooo much fun!
@francowanta6880
Жыл бұрын
i agree with most except paint. MP-44 paint is gorgeous! i know there are chipping issues, but man MP-44 pops out because of the paint
@Jayz457
Жыл бұрын
I just ordered the MS Nemesis since I was missing that color scheme. After seeing this video I will have to get the MS-02EX next month
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
I think the Nemesis one used the same plastic and upgrades as this one, so you should be good
@sj_harris
Жыл бұрын
Wwwwwwipeout! I don’t have an up to date Prime (EVA was my last one), so MS’s latest iteration is extremely tempting on almost every front
@user-ou9jx9hu8f
Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this comparison!
@TheShadowKarl
Жыл бұрын
I never voted on this but MS would have won for me on this members choice. If I were in the market for Optimus I would get this one.
@SpeckyNation
Жыл бұрын
I really like the Magic Square Prime. My only nitpick is I absolutely hate the perfectly round headlights on his truck mode, lol!
@xrpizzle
10 ай бұрын
This is the defacto chanel to figure out what you want or what you are willing to accept. Great work on the chanel m8!
@TMReviews
10 ай бұрын
Thanks, that's what I aim for, glad to help
@shin_godzillas_toy_reviews
3 ай бұрын
Late comment, but what version of mp 44 is that?! Edit: I arrived at the point you said it's a KO
@toomanylies7716
Жыл бұрын
Man, you're really on these reviews and comparisons!
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@oswaldoautomata
Жыл бұрын
No question magic square beats mp 44 @$$ ,, i always like it the MS , i dont know how people likes mp 44 is really expensive and a mess , thanks magic square, and transform element another great masterpiece optimus prime, you got to compare those two , that would be difficult, thanks for this
@jamievaughn1485
Жыл бұрын
For Magic Square I always buy direct from them when in stock. This Optimus is $112.99 right now. I just ordered it today.
@dkdouglas
Жыл бұрын
Great comparison video. I have the MS Prime and think it a better figure overall, but I am partial to the MP robot mode proportions (except for the egregious backpack).
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@josiaharaki7310
11 ай бұрын
I understand that you use the ages 3 and up prices, but MS' own website only charged $125 for EX, a pretty significant difference that might be worth noting... This is relevant because that lower price is, therefore, the MSRP, which is a more fair comparison to Takara Tomys MSRP that other retailers use.
@Memo224
Жыл бұрын
Wow! I figured MS would win, but not by that much. Great comparison!
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Memo, I was also surprised by the difference, I got a lot more dislikes than usual 🤣
@gtoney
Жыл бұрын
Nice VS. ✨️😃
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thanks G
@draemonusmaximum9567
Жыл бұрын
MS-02EX is the best Cartoon Optimus for me :)
@lamonster19
Жыл бұрын
This video really makes me upset I went and got the first version of MS-02, especially since I never was a fan of MP-44. My OP Leader has sufficed as my default prime, but I am chomping at the bit to get a more toon accurate one. I doubt Fans Toys will release one this decade, maybe if I catch a sale I'll give Magic Square a second chance.
@saysoun752
Жыл бұрын
I just sold mine on eBay and then bought the new version. Simpl answer right there. Sold it for $125 and after tax and shipping, I still made a little over $100 so it was just an additional $20 plus so it was well worth it for me. The only problem was, since it was unpainted, that version was made to be played with while this version you do have to be a little more careful as to not scratch the paint.
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Yeah same here
@polarisrustinpeace1797
Жыл бұрын
Nailed it, Sony! Keep it up
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@sigerlion8608
Жыл бұрын
No question the MS02EX version is better than MP44. Great comparison.
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@dr.robotnik825
Жыл бұрын
MS is a Masterpiece killer, enough said. i got this 2.0 version, diecast.
@capencowl
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. My MS-02 EX came with a broken smokestack and red and blue paint scratches? Rub off? On the side of one of the thighs. Not sure how their legends come, but it’s a problem with their mp primes.
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Wow another broken smokestack? They told me they fixed that with subsequent releases after the first one. You can get a replacement from their customer service or from your retailer. I did have a little red paint on my thigh as well, it came off using an eraser (I know weird)
@capencowl
Жыл бұрын
@@TMReviews thanks for the eraser suggestion, yeah I contacted my retailer and I’m waiting to hear back
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
👍
@stephenmaximo4017
Жыл бұрын
Magic Square legs and groin. Takara upper body. That would be the ultimate Optimus.
@obsessivefanboy7
Жыл бұрын
I feel like the MS-02EX is what the MP-44 should've been but with more diecast.
@bphater31
Жыл бұрын
I have the normal ms02. So that I don't need to worry about paint damage
@reidge4479
Жыл бұрын
I really dig MP44 upper body proportions of the KO ver 4 but I do prefer leg proportions of MS02. Don't know why but I don't think MS02 is as good looking as MSB46 even though they have the same proportion and style.
@ultrajazz5335
Жыл бұрын
No matter what his videos come to in the end of comparisons, it always comes down to what You want for your G1 Optimus, we all have different opinions which is what makes us unique, I have TE for my G1 Prime.
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Bingo
@capac2
Жыл бұрын
Surprised alot of the more popular reviewers have yet to review MS EX yet.
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Probably because they think it's a repaint only, even though it has significant improvements
@capac2
Жыл бұрын
@@TMReviews yes, these improvements have me seriously considering going for this 2nd version. But I don’t think I need 3 primes. I have TE and a KO of MP44.
@RidiculousBadgerGames
Жыл бұрын
Hey dude. Just want you to know that there's a dude selling this out of the back of his van under a bridge on Tuesday nights between 3:42 and 4:57 AM for $83.
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@cameronmoriarty3313
Жыл бұрын
Even calling it one sided doesn't really tell the whole story. Looking at the categories Takara won, Accessories and Gimmicks aren't really about the base figure itself. Accuracy was a narrow victory in bot mode, and if you did add truck accuracy then it would be a tie (I know truck accuracy is less important to most people than bot mode). Finally members choice is hard to gauge since everyone has their own criteria, but it would not surprise me if at least some of the votes were using their knowledge of the first release rather than knowing about the improvements on this release.
@nathancawley6944
3 ай бұрын
Ms-01 was a competitor to MP-10, and MS-02 is the competitor to MP-44. In both cases Ms won.
@TheToyOdyssey
Жыл бұрын
I have MP-44 and I’m 1000% happy with it. He’s my definitive Prime and don’t ever feel the need to get another.
@Megs_the_gamer
4 ай бұрын
2:47 that round head looks so off
@mankrip-
Жыл бұрын
Bad review. Magic Square actually has better cartoon accuracy, because MP44 has that big gap below the belly grill, the front of the feet of MP44 is smaller than it should be, the sides of the blue crotch piece on MP44 are the wrong color (white instead of blue), and that blue knee piece detaching from the lower leg during articulation in MP44 is not cartoon accurate.
The true successor to ol mp44. I don’t like op leader. I thought it was way uglier than mp gf with way to big windows
@rasmustarkiainen3267
Жыл бұрын
The side profile of cartoon Optimus is horrendous
@transfanstoys365
Жыл бұрын
Truck not Monkey.
@blue18404
10 ай бұрын
MP10 is still the best
@TMReviews
10 ай бұрын
I still love mp10
@blue18404
10 ай бұрын
@@TMReviews I saw it back in 2011 or 12 at Toys R Us. Without a doubt it was the greatest toy I ever. This is coming from a fan of also, He Man, Real Ghostbusters and Ninja Turtles ( which I regret immensely)
@johnstrife7
10 ай бұрын
Members coping cause they bought an expensive inferior figure 😂
@richrocm5814
Жыл бұрын
Everyone has their preferences that mold their take on certain things but giving the paint to Magic Square makes no sense. It doesn’t nearly have as much paint as you think it does and it is certainly not painted as well as MP-44. Also making price part of your points system is nonsensical. Take into a fact and consider the materials, and paint used, how many moving pieces are used, the engineering. A cheaper price doesn’t automatically mean it’s better.
@ultrajazz5335
Жыл бұрын
That is true!
@yesyes-yf6jm
Жыл бұрын
The one he's comparing to the MP-44 is the MS-92 EX version, which is fully painted.
@cameronmoriarty3313
Жыл бұрын
The simple fact of the matter is for a large number of people the actual retail price is a major factor if not the deciding factor in what they buy. This is an expensive hobby, and getting the relevant information to as many viewers as possible is important. Just because price has no value to you isn't enough reason to remove it. There are other categories that I place little to no value in that are SUPER important to others like Accessories or Gimmicks, but this video isn't about me just like it isn't about you.
@stumitsuko
Жыл бұрын
It’s fully painted except the hands, and while not as glossy or shiny as MP44 the paint on MS02EX is far more durable.
@donaldjackson4456
Жыл бұрын
Ha 😂 you came up with a 44 to compare
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Yep. All for you 🤣
@donaldjackson4456
Жыл бұрын
@@TMReviews awe brother I appreciate that and the rest do too lol. Dang it i was trying to be good and stop collecting so many Primes but i guess im all in the MS as soon as im able.
@TMReviews
Жыл бұрын
Yep, 🤣
@bluemajiic1979
Жыл бұрын
Takara gets hate, but nobody has topped mp44 yet 😊
@johnstrife7
Жыл бұрын
Tf does that mean? The only good thing about m44 is Peter Cullen voice
@elcross77
Жыл бұрын
I do like the look and proportions of MP-44 mold somewhat better, but don’t know why people are too forgiving when it comes to the hideous backpack and all the ugly kibble. IMO it breaks the figure. And the fact that it’s a $500+ toy is just unforgivable. I have the KO with flat backpack and that helps to ease the pain, but the transformation is also broken IMO and not fun at all.
@rickytoddbotelho9555
Жыл бұрын
Magic square has got it all day 🏙
@davidfredrickson4107
Жыл бұрын
the minute ammount of garbage you get with MP44 doesnt account for the massivly inflated price. Id much rather the $200 price over a $700 price.
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